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[@shaunb93291]

What also isn’t being said is how they work the corners. They ride the inside and swing out before the turn which essentially cuts off both the inside and outside lines. They do it so well. They make it near impossible to beat them on a technical course

[@JTMarlin8]

I think cutting off the inside and outside lines is just icing on the cake. L39ion simply takes the fastest line through each corner, which generally means swinging wide and hitting the apex. On top of that, their train is well-drilled and leaves no gaps (Go-Pro exaggerates those gaps - they're generally less than a wheel length), so even if a rider manages to get ahead of a couple riders in the train, he's still left out in the wind with nowhere to go.

[@WaltDoesBikes]

Agreed, Shaun. Also helps when it’s windy out, everyone is guttered doing whatever the lead L39ion rider is doing power wise. 🥵

[@rayF4rio]

Thing is...its hard to find guys who are strong enough to keep it that fast in the last few laps (or win) while still being happy with finishing 50th or so. Right now Legion has that magic sauce, and they are giving everyone else a taste week after week. But, I just watched Joe Martin crit where both men's and women's Legion riders finished 2nd - and I was glad to see that unpredictability.

[@jameshollonds5548]

100% correct, but if I was on Legion as a DS, I would get bored. I would find more enjoyment and achievement by joining a smaller team and helping bring them up and bridging the gap to Legion. I don't understand why Legion are so attractive....and if it's purely for the money....well, their riders are not true cyclists or racers. Every racer loves competition but with Legion bossing it like they do, can't help but feel it's taking away from every other riders experience that shows up....not very conducive to building the sport.

[@JTMarlin8]

@@jameshollonds5548 I think you're out of tune with reality. American crit racing, for years, had the reputation of being a dying sport of cyclists who can't compete on the World Tour level. The Williams bros, building on the work done by Rassan Bahati years earlier, brought it to the next level, and crit racing now has some legitimacy. As for L39gion, several of its riders were disillusioned with the American racing scene and were on the verge of retiring/quitting before joining the team. Also, plenty of L39ion riders other than Cory and Justin have achieved pro victories while on the team. Doubt they're "getting bored".

[@jameshollonds5548]

@@JTMarlin8 they're my observations as a spectator from the other side of the world. I know nothing about the ins and outs of the US cycling scene but as a spectator, it sure is boring seeing the same team absolutley dominate week in week out. And as a competative cyclist and crit racer myself......if i was part of that squad, it would only be a amatter of time before i would would to spread that positive influence onto other teams.

[@michaelsteele5495]

" I don't understand why Legion are so attractive....and if it's purely for the money, their riders are not true cyclists or racers". These are not Cat 5s weekend warriors putting around their local cits. You understand that there are travel costs, equipment cost, race fees, and food costs, plus at that level, you do want to be compensated for your time. Having some financial banking gives these amazing athletes some freedom to focus on training.

[@michaelsteele5495]

There are tons of DS doing a great job but don't have the horses to keep up with the big boys, so they end us as pack fodder and are eventually replaced. "Being happy finishing 50th" does not get you the next job.

[@Mylittledistraktions]

Legion isn’t just good. Their social media game and reach is insane. I bought a mug! They got me hooked on watching cycling videos. With or without them. Hope they grow and the whole sports grows! Been watching you for 2.5 years and cycling as much as I can. I guess I just wanna say thanks for all the videos and info on how to race better. I don’t race but I still watch!! Good stuff.

[@vincentcourcy1064]

Criteriums and marketing as Specialized, as americans.... all stuff that I hate, this is not cycling at all.

[@kachunchoi9513]

The fact that they can stay in the front the whole race and not a single team can do the same say something. Almost feel like cat 3 racers struggling in a cat 1 race (it is all relative)

[@Slow.Smooth]

Had a CAT 1 tell me it’s all the same. Just faster

[@NorCalCycling]

bike racing doesn't get easier, it just gets faster

[@peterfsx]

It would be interesting to see Legion at a pro kermesse in Belgium. Like you say, they are at their own league in US crit`s, but I think thats because the general level in US crit`s are quite average. Get them over to Belgium a cold rainy day, I think it would be an interesting reality check and cool to see. And Legion would probably grow as a team, you dont get better if you can sit at the front and control everything like the are use to.

[@11-inch]

Lmao you gonna see worlds numba juan beast DNF

[@A10FT200LBPUMA]

@@11-inch I used to really like Cory but man the dudes ego is huge. He’s definitely not humble anymore and it shows based on his cocky Instagram posts. Such a shame

[@thermodynamics1110]

Why in the heck would they go to belgium? They’re dominating here……maybe tell the other losers in the race to go to belgium….you think you’re so smart being passive aggressive telling a winning team to go to belgium to go cycle in unfamiliar territory,rules,etc. How bout u tell the belgiums to race here in usa, no u wouldn’t cause they would get smoked.

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@A10FT200LBPUMA just don’t follow. And I don’t think his ego is big. u just want him to appease to you on his “own” instagram, lol maybe say that about everyone on “their”instagram

[@skylerschwendeman]

@@thermodynamics1110 my man, if a strong WT rider came to one of these races and had any modicum of support, they would smash.

[@cuartze1520]

The nature of crits also lends itself to a single file bc of all the corners which makes it even harder for anyone to come up with their own sprint train alongside them

[@Blackice850]

Not every crit is technical........The average high speed as as much if not more to do with that. You go slow enough on any crit course, that single file will fan out in a blink

[@cuartze1520]

@@Blackice850 no denying those guys are mega strong and smart and credit to them for always being able to organize at the front and keep the pace high but i would be keen to see what happens when another strong train comes through at races . Theres still lots of crits even if not all where there isnt room for much more than a couple riders wide through the corners and all you have to be is 1 rider too far back and its 4/5 bike lengths you have to make up and thats just not happening vs legion. Positioning is key in every race but its definitely make or break in crits.

[@Blackice850]

@@cuartze1520 I couldn't agree more

[@NorCalCycling]

Agreed, and legion knows this, so once they've taken the front especially in a technical crit, they don't have to ride at crazy high speeds to maintain control, just enough to not get passed (and then go crazy fast in the last lap or 2). we do the same on team mikes bikes in our local races here in norcal

[@gringoflaquito]

Had the opportunity to work at a shop with a former masters world track champ. He would talk about the old days when he raced crits. His best story: One time the 7-11 team showed up to a criterium and put on a clinic. They lapped the field as a team. Legion reminds me of that story. Thank you for keeping the channel going and giving this great insight to bike racing.

[@niallwoan5847]

Except that a world tour team would dominate Legion.

[@tmunk123]

@@niallwoan5847 not so sure about dominating them, but they would be able to do to legion what legion does to others most likely

[@niallwoan5847]

@@tmunk123 if a world tour team showed up, they’d literally ride off the front, or make the race so hard that the lead out train would be in shambles. There is a reason why they’re a pro team that races domestically compared to trying out Europe. Money making aside.

[@daviddang82]

@@niallwoan5847 not necessarily. World tour pros may be stronger on paper but this is a different discipline. Look at Freddy ovett who came over from world tour and he was getting dropped in crits early on. And you saw in this vid he couldn’t hold Tyler’s wheel as their sweeper.

[@carlmlr]

@@daviddang82 He didnt come from world tour though, he came from the Israel Cycling Academy team which is CT

[@True2thee]

Just wanted to say you are and have been doing an awesome job with these pieces. Keep crushing.

[@PatrickLino]

Great video Jeff. Question - Can you kindly offer some training tips on how to train the body for the constant onslaught of surges? Is it basically 30/30 intervals?

[@NorCalCycling]

vo2 intervals, but most important is avoiding the surges altogether. do more races and practice races to learn how to avoid them and conserve your momentum "slow is smooth and smooth is fast"

[@PatrickLino]

@@NorCalCycling Thank youuuuu!

[@123oner2]

@@NorCalCycling Jeff i love all the content, insight, production, everything but i don't understand why 'slow is smooth' is it more along the lines of 'constant/constant is smooth?

[@calebgonsalves2970]

@@123oner2 What Jeff is getting at basically is to set your own comfortable pace, carve it out for yourself. Examples would be leaving a gap between you and the wheel ahead while cornering so you can preserve momentum and avoid sprinting out of corners. Not being dictated by the race entirely and following the chaos but going with the flow in a path where you can preserve your own energy

[@123oner2]

@@calebgonsalves2970 Got you man, thanks for the explanation.

[@jimusan]

their ethos is special too. if you crash it's your fault. if they take you to the curb or their sweeper brake checks you, it's your fault for not being in front of them.

[@OUTDOORS55]

I mean they have the biggest team in every race. Easy to beat a bunch of solo riders. Sorry but calling it as it is equals not a fair fight. But thats crit racing I guess.

[@thekushgaming7564]

What about Best Buddies leadout? This year they have taken almost every race with that lead out

[@octaviakf]

They’ve got my man Anesak who was on Legion last year he’s so good.

[@Blackice850]

@@octaviakf He hasn't performed his best with BB so far (I don't know all the why's), but he also raced with his school team, Milligan and killed it. I think now he'll play a much bigger role, but hell, BB squad is stacked! Especially when they grabbed Tanner Ward. That roster just got DEEEEP

[@cooperk4]

@@octaviakf That's a weird way to spell "Ama Nsek"

[@daviddang82]

@@Blackice850 I think because ama is in school and not racing and training full time with the rest of the team. Prob why he’s not on the main squad doing all the races like the others.

[@drewd9985]

Could you ask your Dutch guy if it would be possible for him to race the summer Criterium in Zierikzee and send you the footage? I think you and your viewers would really appreciate seeing that course. There are things about racing crits in Europe that's so different to the US and Zierikzee packs so many of these course elements in. Gnarliest flat crit course I've ridden.

[@dscoduc]

Why doesn’t Mikes Bikes put together a train and attack in the same manner instead of individual efforts at the back of their train?

[@octaviakf]

That would be smarter for sure

[@roejogan1759]

Better said than done

[@2552legoboy]

Maybe they are strong enough to hold the front up and mikes arnt

[@Blackice850]

@@roejogan1759 bingo

[@freeffree4133]

They don't have the watts.....

[@drsus0]

TL:DR ... Justin watched and learned how world tour teams set their sprint train... which actually started with.. crazy enough, when Justin has Gus Morton as a teammate at red hook crit some years ago and he pulled them all to the side and said " mates, we should do this the way we do it in the world tour"

[@TimSpeciale]

UHC was doing this for years not too long ago. They aren’t innovating here, just doing it well and selflessly

[@drsus0]

@@TimSpeciale never said innovating.. simply where he picked it up from.

[@ryanpalo]

Justin raced in Europe when he was younger. None of that was new to him.

[@drsus0]

@@ryanpalo wasn’t new, but he wasn’t implementing it. Took another world tour guy to say “hey, sprint train ?”

[@Sijray21]

I'm seeing a bunch of District Taco racers. I had no idea they're racing on the west coast. Based in MABRA.

[@jaymsf4503]

Thanks for sharing and commenting on these races. Question: as a spectator where do we find the schedule and the venue for these races? Thanks.

[@sydneydowd8969]

follow the racers and teams on Instagram! they often post the links to the live streams too.

[@dacman69]

Thanks Jeff for not being a Legion hater.

[@evildr.foucci]

Just had my first crit and I used to watch all your videos and others on strategy but a few teams showed up didn't stay close enough to the front and the back took the wave effect which required me to have high spikes and constant attacks from the very first lap also a crash almost happened right in front of me (touch of wheels) that made me back up a even more than ideal, than with a few laps to go I got dropped At the end I looked at my NP compared to everyone there I put the highest power and still got dropped, next one will be closer to the front and use the smooth is fast strategy, it doesn't matter how strong you are if you are not protected or have a team its really difficult

[@CoachNealF]

Congrats on your first crit result! You finished (same lap as the lead?) and you didn't crash and got to go home. If you're not first, you're learning and it looks like you learned quite a bit from your first experience.

[@Red-ju4mi]

Well no matter what if your in the back it's gonna suck lol. Ya win by being first

[@evildr.foucci]

@@CoachNealF thanks!

[@letriciabrowder2942]

We have city called redlands here in South Cal too

[@letriciabrowder2942]

Obviously no one wants to crash but it's kinda inevitable in this sport so is there like a method on how you want to land to prevent a career ending injury?

[@user-cf9ng8li9d]

We can take them at Alviso 😂

[@garyschneider1782]

Suits my needs perfectly

[@DurianriderCyclingTips]

Lets see them race in Belgium...

[@geraldtone5914]

You jelly?

[@GiorgioCoppolaCycling]

Absolute Carnage!

[@geraldtone5914]

How many people is on the legion team?

[@widgets7921]

I don't know :)

[@MarkBurghouwt]

6 or 7

[@Laf-Adventures]

Legion is strong but they are kinda low brow, their sweeper will bang bars and physically bully people who try to draft. It’s been shown in multiple videos and discussed by many riders that their tactics are a bit underhanded and dangerous. You can see in this video how the sweeper puts his bars in front of others and creates dangerous situations behind the rest of his team.

[@ryanflores2281]

This, they are fast and play bully ball. Until a team with the watts is willing to play the intimidation game Legion will keep it up. Unfortunately, most guys racing are not getting paid, so getting injured over pride and a trophy probably isn’t worth it. Kinda hard to explain to your employer why your out for 8 weeks.

[@alpd7638]

Speaking of...did they ever pay up all that mega prize money from their joke of a race last year, where they stacked the deck in their favour with 2 teams?

[@mattbettwy4069]

They’re also kinda sandbagging a lot of the time. At least this field is some fair competition, but there’s tons of videos of Legion manhandling amateur p12 crits with that super aggressive style. It’s just a different kind of racing at their talent level- they sent Frayre to Worlds last year and Garrison is fresh out of a contract from fucking Quickstep. That caliber of rider is going to ride much more dangerously than your “average” cat 1 with a job to go to in the morning. At Redlands it’s just part of the race (for the most part), but it’s 100% low brow riding like that in all those random local crits for a few hundred bucks.

[@jls1337]

can you timestamp that?

[@Laf-Adventures]

@@jls1337 Here is a little summary of the whole time the sweeper is in the video. 2:15 POV rider makes it to the sprinter of legion's wheel, half wheeling the sweeper 2:25 sweepers bars aggressively come in from the right after we pass a lapped rider on the left Look at his position here, he isn't on the wheel, he is way behind it, slowing and moving even father left. 2:36 sweeper takes corner wide to push POV rider off line This causes him to lose his position to another rider on the inside 2:41 He almost wrecks because he would not surrender a lost position and attempted to dive a corner in response. Thus creating further danger and chaos in the pack.

[@trev-trev]

I woke up this morning thinking about Legion. KZbin algorithm has gone too far LOL

[@NorCalCycling]

😂

[@Mylittledistraktions]

😂

[@stafgruglnioe5122]

1:16 2 close calls :D

[@annukun7318]

great tactics and teamwork

[@flairabc]

Let's get them to Europe and see how they go

[@i_marvinot2924]

🥱…. here we go again… we don’t watch ur crits, don’t watch ours… we don’t wanna come race over there, just as you don’t wanna come race here…. planes fly both ways!

[@octaviakf]

Europe has crit?

[@charliedillon1400]

@@i_marvinot2924 Europe is the standard. The Legion guys will never be considered "the best" until they can dominate over there. This is like MLS soccer; sure, they're great soccer players, but nowhere near the top.

[@Chris-de2qc]

Didn't they try before but not get good results?

[@Blackice850]

@@i_marvinot2924 Bravo

[@bricelohest5471]

Ever since I started University here in Belgium I have lost the organisational skill to find the time to go ride. It's been 10 months since the last time I rode regularly and I really really miss it. I really miss training for a race and doing that race. I know you've been doing this for a really long time, do you have any advice? (great video btw and keep it up!)

[@kt9493]

Buy a turbo trainer. The Kickr Core for example. It should be direct drive because everything else is garbage.

[@bmp713]

Are these heart rates accurate?? 180+ nearly the entire time seems very high for mostly under 30MPH?

[@thedistance1155]

Cuz they have financially stable means can get better members

[@Blackice850]

Definitely no shame in that.......If they have the means to assemble the strongest talent, then so be it. You still need the right chemistry, right ego placement, and committing to assigned roles to be this consistently dominant..........Hats off to them.

[@thedistance1155]

@@Blackice850 nope, all about power and holding watts in front, legion had the best member to pay and hold that line for the last 2 laps. Money gives power, more money means can pick more powerful guys to work on the front.

[@11-inch]

@@Blackice850 oh they certainly lacks no ego as far as I’m concerned

[@joesguitarshop8194]

Good placing for your teammate!

[@goober8]

Legion race pro teams all the time. Redlands is literally a Pro race. They are a disciplined team and have raised the bar for racing in north America that's why they win, cause they work their asses off.

[@bluemystic7501]

Well, I think this video shows that it's more than hard work.

[@ProfessorSteez]

They are great at crit racing. Their best GC was 7th, they’re not a marquee road racing team. I think what needs to be pointed out is they’re full-time riders with 5-10x the budget their pro competitors have and still massively underperform in pro (not USA crits) races.

[@11-inch]

BLM man, now come and buy my Tshirt

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@11-inch BLM man? Who is BLM man? Loooool

[@nemothefisk7154]

Heyo was curious when a team dous this and another team is trying to get into position why don’t the second team make there own train on the side to pull past them

[@NorCalCycling]

easier said then done! legion makes it look easy but trust me it's not, especially in a pro level crit like this one

[@tuna_buoy]

What’s more “gooder” was watching Tyler Stites win the GC.

[@Jacob99174]

Love your videos!

[@herm157]

slow is just slow. if you are smooth when fast that contributes to efficiency.

[@crb0n181]

That's a damn good question but I'll do you one better. Who is legion so good?

[@BigBrownMonke]

Wut?

[@kotautistic]

Wut?

[@geraldtone5914]

Where is legion so good?

[@victorpires6791]

guess people really missed the joke here

[@joshuacaballero3567]

LOL don't worry I get it.

[@alexanderkuhn6172]

Has best buddies not been beating legion this year??

[@earlfoss99]

Legion is so good because they don't have to race any other legit pro teams. Even against amateurs they whine and complain when things don't go their way. Think crit nationals last year lol

[@goober8]

lol this video is from Redlands crit.. which is a pro race.

[@earlfoss99]

@@goober8 lol it is a pro-1 race and most of the teams participating were amateur

[@Blackice850]

@@earlfoss99 lol, I guess Legion is garbage huh?

[@carlmlr]

@@goober8 Clearly none of the other American continental (or above) teams are participating in this race. Those are the ones Legion should be compared to, since they are a conti team. They are seemingly very well funded for what they are doing, so surely if they wanted to they would be able to go race some smaller european races.

[@daviddang82]

They raced against pro d1 crit teams all year last year at USA crits series and won almost every one. Also look at last yrs Tulsa tough.

[@forsnowboard]

That's what every sprint train in the pro peloton looks like

[@Efdub]

Great video The haters are in the comments 🤣. Duh, You win crits by having a team. You protect your sprinter. The power of the draft and saving energy. Step your game up not your hate up.

[@MyDemon32]

Eh darling, it seems you haven't been paying attention yeti.

[@thermodynamics1110]

I agree. Anytime a black person is winning and in control of theirs, all these haters try to sabotage… They’re watching a usa race and mentioning europe….why would legion go to “belgum” when the belgums are already getting smoked by legion here in usa

[@themanonthemoon111]

Let's see them do it in Europe and then I'll take them seriously

[@SiParengBen]

I miss watching new content from you 😣😭

[@jamminhunter]

Yay! Redlands! I was hoping for footage!

[@nationsnumber1chump]

hey whats up with Garmin's virb software? it won't show the google maps for my gmetrix power data overlay?

[@fragmate2706]

How do you think legion would do in a race in europe?

[@NorCalCycling]

i think they'd hold their own in a US style crit.

[@11-inch]

They’d get DNF the fuck out of the race

[@geraldtone5914]

Why are you people so hurt? You know that if you are implying a cycling team would have to leave the continent in order to find adequate competition, that is only a testament to their abilities.

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@geraldtone5914 because their europeons cyclists ain’t winning here, they getting smoked by legion…why go to europe when u already smoking em here. They trying to find another strategy and angle

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@11-inch they just won the fucking race.

[@17cream]

I want to see them in Europe

[@thermodynamics1110]

They already whopping the belgums here. I’m glad they winning here. Trying to find another angle aren’t ya?

[@17cream]

@@thermodynamics1110 Do you mean Belgians ? 😂 Nobody in Europe has heard of them, If they are a Pro team then it would be great to see them race abroad rather than the domestic scene. I’m sure they’d smash the likes of Van Aert 🤪

[@vincentcourcy1064]

They are good on 1h race, criteriums LOL.

[@JoshMcGehee]

I see the difference. But why is it that right behind TW it's smooth but 5-6 wheels back it's surging like crazy? Is it that the single file of riders makes it easy to choose good lines and limit breaking? Would the difference be as extreme in a less technical crit?

[@NorCalCycling]

right behind TW is his teammate, playing sweeper. Yes, smoother because there's clean rotations, good lines, and as little surging/braking as possible.

[@gamer9892]

@@NorCalCycling I think that is Ovett who won on Oak Glen 2 days before - their GC guy - who didn't have his best day the next day to fight for the overall GC.

[@ChrisSharp_kr1spy]

If I were to compare Legion to a fictitious club it would be Cobra Kai - “The enemy deserves no mercy.” >:-/

[@kevinfrikitona]

That's a sick pace!!!!

[@JFomo]

Because they all ride S-Works

[@W.C.]

More like "Why is Jeff so Good at Making Videos?"

[@rueljutba3796]

it's maybe because they stick to their roles

[@pushbeyondaverage]

Wow.

[@thatguy9051]

"Pigeon Pie"

[@zachc253]

Because they have all the best riders in North America that didn’t make it to Europe

[@pengiransyahmiiqmal2970]

We want more longer video 😬

[@inz_uzi]

I want mo money and bitches! 😠🤬

[@alpd7638]

Money. Money is the answer

[@Corey-zz3fd]

Slamming his brakes at 2:40 to create that dangerous situation. I would have found him after that race. That’s BS

[@ultimatist]

Nope, inside guy had to slow to make the tighter radius turn.

[@Corey-zz3fd]

@@ultimatist Dude, he went straight to the apex of that turn and slammed his brakes.

[@ProfessorSteez]

@@ultimatist you think that wasn’t deliberate? The guy with the GoPro was accelerating at him with 0 watts

[@benmiller388]

Do you miss that bike?

[@NorCalCycling]

my sl7 yesssssss 😥

[@fcz]

I would not sit on the wheel of no 31. He's all over the place. So erratic.

[@XKsavX666]

Yo

[@leavealone5247]

Legion just has bodies to throw at the pace that's all. They are pretty good.but they can't climb

[@gamer9892]

LOL - one of their guys won the mountain top finish two days before...

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@gamer9892 it’s cause legion is not fitting their agenda

[@josk30]

let try them a belgian kermesse race ... then we talk

[@thermodynamics1110]

No thanks huysser. The belgums already losing in this race

[@tmunk123]

I think Ryan backed out when he almost crashed. Just wasn't worth it at that point

[@tmunk123]

It would have been a bad crash too with that railing coming up. Ouch!

[@vincentcourcy1064]

Criteriums and marketing, that's why Legion is suppose to be good. Let's go to Europe to see how they sucks.

[@geraldtone5914]

Hater

[@DavidWalker-xz4jb]

Slow is smooth? Isn’t it: Fast is smooth, smooth is fast.

[@Slow.Smooth]

No slow is smooth smooth is fast man. Look it up

[@desmondyap5391]

Not to put hate on legion but after what they did to last "into the lion's den" crit, lost my respect for them

[@daviddang82]

People complain forever that cycling in USA is a joke when it comes to pay. But when legion puts on race where people outside of legion got paid big money like Luke getting 10k for 2nd and 4k for one preme…. Yet people still complain.

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@daviddang82 they complain because they losing. They don’t like the winners, even if the winners are promoting this sport heavy… They just want to see a “certain” type that’s winning

[@arvandero]

Dopestrong!

[@a.k.1351]

The team that suggested paying women with gift certificates instead of the money they said they would? Sexism makes you fast I guess!?

[@HeavensentGojo]

Yes another good video and haven't even watched it i just know😁

[@stephenboshears4832]

87% of their team crashed out of the nationals criterium last year, good is relative…

[@Mylittledistraktions]

Relative to winning ratios

[@11-inch]

DNF

[@niallwoan5847]

It seems so boring in your crit scene when you have one rich team who have literally no competition…. It’s such a snooze fest but you all praise them so highly. Boring.

[@martinblank1484]

If you think it's just because they are "rich" then you really don't have a clue...

[@niallwoan5847]

@@martinblank1484 if you’re a rich team you can afford to sponsor the best riders & keep them in your team, wtf don’t you get about that? *no idea*

[@martinblank1484]

@@niallwoan5847 So no other team has the money to sponsor riders? Shocking. I never knew there was just one...🙄

[@daviddang82]

@@niallwoan5847 its not their fault that no other team can secure the funds and sponsors like they can? They were able to get good sponsors cuz of their results and what they value they bring to sponsors. Maybe other teams need to step up their game. Every team has sponsors and it’s not legions fault that it’s maybe not enough.

[@thermodynamics1110]

They come and make a stupid comment and never to return.

[@scottvessey915]

Yawn... Great if you're in Legion, not if you're anyone else.

[@petef15]

Literally just doing a TTT cos they're the strongest team.

[@SupercarAlex150]

These guys are hellla fast…but they aren’t the best of the best 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[@mitchellsteindler]

Theyre not the best of the best at crits? I think it's kind of undisputable that they're the best at crits.

[@prm9g6]

@@mitchellsteindler They are the best at crits in the USA and possibly have the best strategy/execution of any crit team in the world. I don't think they would beat WTT teams often with the amount of pure firepower those teams possess. But it's a moot point. Those races won't happen.

[@danram8980]

@@prm9g6 not even against WTT but the pro teams in the UK and Netherlands would give them a fair fight where they wouldn't just be able to sit on the front for 50k then lead out the guy with the biggest sprint

[@mitchellsteindler]

@@danram8980 sure...maybe. Can you link a video of one of these European crits you're talking about?

[@prm9g6]

@@danram8980 yeah, not sure I have ever seen another team compete with another train rather than drop in behind. Not sure they would be able to execute anywhere near as well with another train or 2 trying to pull next to them.

[@USDOTATF]

Any team can win a crit with 5-6 people.

[@NorCalCycling]

in theory, but only a handful of them can actually execute

[@thermodynamics1110]

Yo, NorCal just replied to u and it’s just crickets…You gonna backup what u just said?

[@NorCalCycling]

@@thermodynamics1110 ?

[@fallyhag]

Don’t show 99% of the race then cut it short at the finish. Not cool 💩❌ I get that it is not the point, but… editorial poo…

[@Marco-717]

They're only good cause they juice. Simple