Why is Mechanical Advantage Important? (with Dr. Ed Ashby)

[@PersonalBestOutdoors]

Troy and Doc, I love these videos. I've said it in probably every one of these videos, but every time Doc opens his mouth EVERYONE in the archery and bowhunting community has an opportunity to benefit from it. There is a saying about experience... "Doc has forgotten more about bowhunting than most of us know." While it's true that Doc definitely knows more than most about the topic, it was apparent to me after our phone conversations that this man forgets NOTHING. I have never known anyone; prior to meeting and hanging out with you lot, that took such a scientific approach to the sport of bowhunting. Thank you for doing the work and supplying not only the results, but explaining why and how to repeat and audit the info for ourselves. Miss you guys, keep up the great work. God bless and happy hunting!

[@rdude1184]

Doctor ED has set me on the full Recovery Path! Every time field to table.

[@ScottWConvid19]

Isn't it? I built my arrows using his info 3.5 years ago and haven't lost a deer yet. Every arrow has gone through, no matter what was in the way. Before that, I used pro-shop stock "hunting arrows" and at least half of the mature deer I shot took my arrow with them.

[@mountainman0004]

You guys are doing great work. I feel lucky and thankful to be able to listen to such knowledeable and experienced bowhunters who are willing to share data so we can be a better bowhunters. Thank you! both very much.

[@rohlfing63]

You guys are fundamentally on the right track with your "chopping vs slicing" discussion. The reaction force vector on a high mechanical advantage head is putting less resistance in the direction of the arrow travel than a short/wide head does, and that is certainly a factor in the deceleration of a wide/flat mechanical head.

[@-_-hi8964]

Love the shirt Fairy.

[@Iamme0007]

Thank you both again for all the educational content. I'm sure you don't hear it enough.

[@brooksvandevelder447]

Thanks Troy and Dr Ed

[@v.l.bradley9962]

Thanks Troy and Ed As a dinosaur (as Troy would say) and a person with 64 years of archery experience I can't wait to see each and every one of your videos KEEP THEM coming

[@cosmogervasi4496]

Always enjoy these Shop talks, Never Stop learning 😎🏹🦌🐗

[@ChavsADV]

Idk if you guys have locust trees down there but here you’ll find yourself stuck in a bunch of rose shoots and locust trees which huge thorns. Side note I put my first new arrow through a deer the other day. Pass through so I didn’t learn a thing except heart shots make easy blood trails and short tracks.

[@dennisrobinson753]

Thanks for bringing MR ASHBY TO THE FOR FROUNT I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN FROM HIMIN PERSON YOUR LUCKY

[@tolt1776]

Troy, grab a samburu spear from cold steel. You can put that through an entire animal with less force than it takes to drive a size 6 finish nail with a sledge hammer. Spears prove alot. Slockmaster Tim has some incredible footage. It also shows the "lever" action of the handle it's phenomenal!

[@jacobcutter8962]

Thank you for this. This answered some of my questions.

[@AdamCooper-qg1oh]

at 12:00 you hit on something that I have talked about many times and I believe will be the key to breaking the "Anti Ed" theories and that is energy conservation. It is such a simple concept and energy is something all archers have in common but those with Ashby arrow will conserve much more than light setups with mechanical heads. I would love to see a test of retained energy. Everything to this point has been anecdotal in terms of speed erosion. If you could prove the percent of energy dump with bad arrow flight and mechanical head deployment, you certainly could turn some heads.

[@RanchFairy]

@@AdamCooper-qg1oh So my testing in a lab radar is not anecdotal. But to your point that is from the bow to the target NOT through the target. So the fact is - it takes a ton of work no one wants to do. The mech and industry guys are NOT gonna prove their heads eat energy like a starving man at a buffet. And - we haven’t figured out how to efficiently do this. Lastly - there’s no money in it. So no one but ABF will even think about it Oh - and animals….we need lots of them to do this right. Surrogate targets will not replicate anything but The results of a surrogate target

[@chrisruzsa2798]

It’s easy test yourself with a couple of chronographs have one at the bow and one at the target shoot through both with your light setup all the way up to a 650 since people use this as their cutoff point and start point you’ll see and find the best arrow setup for you to use. This is not anecdotal at all. We know light things erode speed faster from boats, cars, bikes, motorcycles, planes, jets, bullets arrows and bolts. Light goes faster it starts faster but it also erodes faster too, if you have improper flight that erodes it more too again seen in everything.

[@pslav6397]

Thank you. Well done.

[@NathanPARKER-c3u]

@RanchFairy - Shark teeth have a secondary purpose, which is to SAW. Thats why they are wider and serrated. To grab a hold to bite sizes pieces of food and "shake" or saw it lose. Wider penetrators are better at withstanding side pressure like a sawing motion, which is less common in penetrating broadheads.

[@RanchFairy]

Claify, I am curious. How does a wide head withstand side pressure? That's an interesting concept.

[@rohlfing63]

The side pressure he's speaking of is perpendicular to the direction of travel of the arrow, and the wider head (lower mechanical advantage) head is simply More robust in that direction because it's dimensionally larger, although it's pretty irrelevant as that perpendicular force is so low that even with a high mechanical advantage head nothing is going to break or even bend in that direction.

[@NathanPARKER-c3u]

@RanchFairy A shark's tooth is wider because it has to withstand more side pressure from when the shark takes a bite and starts shaking its head to "saw" a bite off. So, when you say that most penetrators in nature have a high mechanical advantage (except shark teeth), I think your forgetting about the secondary purpose of shark teeth which is to saw off bite size pieces. So, shark teeth may not be a good example of something "only designed to penetrate". If a shark had very narrow teeth like bee stingers, it would break them as it shook its head, even though the bee stingers may penetrate better. Some sharks do have longer more narrow teeth, but they are not serrated, because they are not using them to "saw", but instead just grab and hold onto prey. But like @rohlfing63 is saying, that side pressure isn't that relative to bow hunters because we are not expecting much side pressure, only forward pressure as we pass through the animal.

[@NathanPARKER-c3u]

@@RanchFairy My point was, that when you say that "most penetrators in nature have a high mechanical advantage, except shark teeth." I think you are forgetting that shark teeth are wider to withstand the force that the shark generates when it shakes its head to saw off bite size pieces. So, shark teeth are not a good example of something that is only designed to penetrate. All though a shark with long and narrow teeth may penetrate better, the longer teeth would break under the side pressure of the shark shaking his head to tear off a bite. Although some sharks do have longer teeth, they are not serrated, because they are not using those teeth to saw, only to hold onto prey.

[@NathanPARKER-c3u]

I also want to say I'v used the "Ranch Fairy' method of setting up arrows for the past 5 years, but this year when bare shaft tuning, I noticed that the 300gr and 100gr field points gave me great arrow flight. So, i set up a 420gr arrow (for target practice) and a hunting arrow of 620gr. Last Sunday I forgot my rangefinder and used the 420-gr setup on a 3-year-old 8 point. It was tipped with a magnus stinger 7/8 wide. I was thinking that the perfect arrow flight and mechanical advantage of that broadhead would be enough for a passthrough. The arrow went in 4-5 inches and broke off. I found the deer, but mechanical advantage could not make up for the lack of weight. First time in years I didn't get a passthrough.

[@blessedvetoutdoors]

Always enjoy yalls talks sir. Thank you for sharing. Wishing you and Mr Ed blessings for Our Lord.

[@marcodevecchis8145]

Such great info. and accurate info. I do not understand why some people don't get it. You don't have to be an Engineer to understand Physics. I cannot find the Tuffhead broadheads you were showing in your video, are they available anywhere?

[@treywhite921]

I can’t find them either. I only have 2 left.

[@judefuselier]

Consider presenting a diagram of the force components based on sine/cosine blade angle versus the angle of shear all in its relationship to the blade material and units of force that edge encounters statically or dynamically for fun. The unit force applied to the broadhead edge materials would provide a valuable estimation of force on the blade as a whole. A lot of little math bits

[@dougkiefer7073]

Wonder if that’s why Chris Bee has gone radio silent 🤔. Sucks he got that label but hey that’s part of putting yourself out there

[@Jonnydeerhunter]

I like your shirt Troy

[@bucksniper65]

Funny some people say the longer blade will increase friction and hurt penetration.

[@EarlScyoc-km2qs]

Great video thank you guys.

[@brandondeyo2574]

Troy I love that shirt.

[@paulheberling2750]

Less go already!

[@danpowell4732]

RF, Dr Ed, thank you for all you do and have done for bow hunting!! Forgive me as I know it’s been discussed and written down probably in the foundation but what is the exact math for the mechanical advantage?

[@OldDerelict]

Blade length is divided by blade width. A broadhead 3 3/8 inches long and 1 1/8 wide, such as the TuffHead, has an MA of 3.

[@Blessedoutdoorsman]

Debating on switching to mechanicals for white tail deer. Been using single bevel for the past 3 years and blood trails aren’t all that. I do like the sharpness of a single bevel but blood trails just make big deer a lot easier to find

[@tray22]

My worst blood trails were from mechanical heads because I didn't get that exit hole. Also I have noticed the internal damage is greater from my two blade single bevel over a rage or similar head. I think that is from the blade bending, breaking, and losing its sharpness on entry. I won't ever go to a mechanical for four legged prey but I might try 3 or 4 blade heads depending on the setup.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

​@@tray22mechanicals are better for turkeys and small game imo. I would recommend trying a four blade like the tooth of the arrow. Troy is right about "mechanical" advantage, but those heads don't fly straight either. Show me ED or Troy hitting the ten ring at 70 yards with one of those 4 inch heads.

[@tray22]

@Steve-ev6vx I don't shoot past 30 yards at deer. They move too much and it is way too thick where I hunt. I have had to let deer get further away from me to get a shot when they were under my stand. I love my two blade cutthroat single bevel broadheads. They zip through the deer so fast.

[@ThirdLawPair]

Dr Ed, what kind of regressions did you use in the data analysis?

[@kevinmeeske3412]

Thank-you another Great video. How bout moreon woodsmanship getting close and tracking. Seems a lost art. Sad. Keep up Great work

[@jesseerickson5346]

Hey troy. I know most guys who bash you seem more worried about arrow trajectory than lethality, so they argue against the heavier arrow setups. My question is at what point do you think a person can sacrafice a bit a mechanical advantage for extra cutting diameter. I,e going from a standard tuffhead to the tuffhead wide.

[@RanchFairy]

@@jesseerickson5346 Well, I’m not a fan for 1/16” it’s not much to gain. Your arrow flight has to be maintained. And I don’t think it will matter unless you’re going to big animals (elk or larger) BUT if you bonk a shoulder and it stops. Please accept that as that. Lower MA choice

[@michaelcollins432]

Troy, which 200gr single bevel would you recommend that has the highest mechanical advantage?

[@Steve-ev6vx]

The one he makes and sells

[@RanchFairy]

@@michaelcollins432 That’s a fact - the RF head. I have had them “stretch” it as much as possible. I am so committed to making it as long as possible (at 200 grains) that I WONT sell 150 and 125 - which makes me gas $$ and they would sell at 3X the 200 grain. Because The 150 and 125 type heads have much lower MA - they get short and blunt.

[@Funny-bf8xf]

I love that shirt

[@quintenbullard2921]

If mechanical advantage wasn’t a thing I’d have a lot flatter roof😂

[@davidjackson9712]

Sloped roofs are dangerous…

[@tray22]

​@@davidjackson9712One in particular was for Trump.

[@quintenbullard2921]

@ steep metal roof definitely are😂

[@GregK-pv5xe]

This is a very interesting topic. Does the need for mechanical advantage increase exponentially with the size & type of animal being hunted? Whitetail vs Elk vs Alaskan Grizzly or Moose? Is there a way to determine, measure, & compare a rate of mechanical advantage?

[@bakters]

Bigger animals require deeper penetration, so obviously it's better to use a high mechanical advantage head on them. You determine it by comparing the length of the head to its width. 3:1 would mean that the head is three times longer than it's wide. That would be a high mechanical advantage broadhead, while some mechanicals are wider than they are long after deployement.

[@rootnpearl]

Truth, truth, truth

[@km6731]

i like the idea of mechanical advantage, i just don't like how they steer arrows much better. Does orienting the head flat (horizontal) improve the chance of not planing as much at the distance of 40 to 60 yards?

[@YoureSoVane]

No. The arrow should still rotate in the air for accuracy. Combined with sufficient fletching and margin of stability, that is how you prevent or minimize planing.

[@angryheathen3463]

Ok so I use the RF single bevels, but they go against what Ed was saying about long and thin broadheads

[@daltonbbf756]

Ed the Tenpoint 515 will push a 400-grain arrow at 515fps that's 235.63 FT/LBS. A standard velocity 22lr so 40 grains at 1070fps is only 101 FT/LBS. The crossbow has two times as much KE. My compound is 445 grain arrow at 309fps that's 94.37 FT/LBS. So less then 22lr but far greater then 70 to 75%. Even a mini mag 22lr at 1235fps is only 135.50 FT/LBS still losing to the crossbow.

[@laurenchapple8244]

Why have the 3:1 MA 200/300 grain Tuffhead & Meathead broadheads been discontinued? Where can we find high quality, high mechanical advantage broadheads in the 200/300 grain category?

[@huntfish25]

Yes why have the meathead 265 been removed. RF is a sponsor for them

[@RanchFairy]

@@laurenchapple8244 Lack of demand - sheer lack of people wanting them. I am surprised - but that’s the facts man. Businesses don’t spend money to sit things on a shelf

[@laurenchapple8244]

@@RanchFairy Thanks, I suspected that was the case. Maybe the best broadheads on the market gone. Money drives markets.

[@littlewoody5539]

After I heard rocket man say 3 blade broad heads are easier to tune then other heads I just when that route.

[@jons7e]

It's seems like it's larger holes vs insurance policy. There's no question that the mechanical advantage broad head is going to penetrate better. Is there a balance between the two?

[@aaronhall765]

So why does tuff head only make the long style in 300 + grains? 125, 150 short and wide? Because can't get the metal, durable, edge bevel right at those weights? I've got some VPA I picked up for a steel 🎉of a price. Haven't used them. Been successful with 4 blades for 30+ years. Recently 215 hog, 4 blade Grim Reaper micro hades 125. I sent you emails. Keep on sharing. Thanks for the content. ❤

[@RanchFairy]

@@aaronhall765 There’s a point where thin steel will make. A long piece of aluminum foil. DO NOTE. Part of Ed’s study he shot a LOT of thinner heads that were one piece and bent. So there’s research behind the thickness. I’m gonna be a butthole!! Why not man up and shoot an arrow with a 300 grain spear point on the front instead of a 1” blade broadhead? 😆 😂 My Tuffhead hunting arrows freak people out. Because they do look like a spear!!!

[@markosnionakis7777]

I know this is kind of off topic, but in the high volume of animals harvested in the testing, have you noticed any difference in blood trails from a double bevel vs a single bevel assuming the rest of the factors of the browdhead is the same? ( 2 blade, high mechanical advantage broadhead)

[@RanchFairy]

@@markosnionakis7777 Ed may chime in. I have found no correlation with any PREDICTABILITY for any broadhead platform. The animals are so variable in their structure, every hit is different, each individual shot is a single event with its own circumstances. I will admit - when mechs work and deploy and blades don’t break off (those are UNPREDICTABLE) it CAN be amazing. But the structural integrity unpredictability negates the “one off amazing” performance. This we are back to every individual live hunting shot is its own set of individual circumstances

[@OldDerelict]

I have not found any correlation between broadhead used and the resulting blood trail (s). Blood trails are more dependent on the shot location, what organs were hit, the presence of an exit wound, and the location of the exit wound.

[@judefuselier]

God bless the cook!

[@km6731]

Ed, now you have to tell some stories about tracking a gut shot animal.

[@capthollis]

Whom is doing the Ashby test and where do i find the recent ones? I’m not speaking of the Ranch fairy test

[@YoureSoVane]

Who*, and when they are completed they're uploaded to the ABF website.

[@RanchFairy]

@@capthollis Ashby website - supplemental reports

[@fasmola]

What is the limit of high mechanical advantage? Why not have a broadhead that is 6 or 8 inches long and 1 1/2 inches wide?

[@lawrencefranck9417]

No reason to exceed the mechanical advantage needed with the energy at hand. At some point you loose structural integrity.

[@YoureSoVane]

Excess friction from the extra surface area would do more harm than good. If you had a target with a very, very low coefficient of friction but a high density you might see a benefit from going longer, but I can't even imagine what that target would look like.

[@matthewperry7633]

Take a two wheeled dolly load it with 200 lb refrigerator and walk up a ramp with a 45 degree angle. Then take the same dolly with the same refrigerator and walk up a ramp with a 15 degree angle. Which ramp would you rather walk up. I for one would rather have the 15 degree ramp. Same thing applied with broadheads. The long slender broadhead will have less resistance penetrating an animal than a broadhead that is short with steep angled sides.

[@RanchFairy]

@@matthewperry7633 You’re rational! Please stop with that! NO ONE CARES ABOUT FACTS!!!! 🤣 🤣

[@mikekupetsky6879]

I hate to say this and I am not a fan of crossbows but a standard 400 ft per second crossbow exceeds a 22 long rifle in energy

[@lawrencefranck9417]

Shark teeth saw with head shake

[@aaronlasco6565]

Couple of SHARP fellas right there!! Hope you penetrate some brains! >>>----->

[@ryanblanciak6628]

Talk to some dog trackers the one that record every track from now to arrow to broadhead see what they say when it come s to bh choice or shot placement

[@jonabub]

The only issue I have with your depiction of the problem is that there's more than two dimensions on a broad head. And you need a mechanical advantage along the edge, that's for sure, but what good is it if your broadhead is thiiiiiick? Further i wonder: Since you both said it, the animal gets a vote: And i guess that means you need something else than a sharp edge and a high mechanical advantage when you hit bone, because then you want splitting rather than cutting?

[@RanchFairy]

@@jonabub Ok - I can’t read sarcasm or lack thereof so I am going to assume you’re asking actual questions - honestly. So - the adult broadheads we are talking about are two blade and around .07 thousands thick (give or take 15% depending on manufacturer) It is traveling on the shot line in the direction of travel creating ONLY a .07 thousands thick edge. Very efficient. The animals MOVE. So you need a perfectly flying - heavy projectile with an adult broadhead in the event you DID not Miss. the arrow is on target but the animal moves and it hits something you didn’t intend. We all advocate for a perfect hit in the ribs, low and on the crease. Until the animals vote - “plan B” lethality arrow system becomes critical.

[@jonabub]

@@RanchFairy I wasn't being sarcastic, but i'm no native so maybe i missed something that made you think that i was. What i meant with the mechanical advantage is that after the tissue is cut, the rest of the arrow's thickness needs to make way through the freshly cut hole. So the thickness of the broadhead, whether it has more blades in a different angle, whether it's a few mm thick or thicker to make the blade heavier and harder, all that plays into the factor "mechanical advantage" i think. Maybe i remember it wrong, but i think Luke Palmer mentioned a similar thought on his channel. So i'm wondering sind the pointier the angle of the broadhead, the thicker the blade overall need to be so it wouldn't break or bend. So there is also a second angle offset 90 degrees to the blade angle that plays into the mechanical advantage question. I realise the edge of the blade is very thin, but that's a different matter than the thickness that needs to be pushed through the hole. And also since we plan for hitting the ideal spot but want redundancy in case the animal votes to present some bone: We still need some less flat angle to split the bone, since bone splitting costs less of our momentum than cutting a hole for the whole broadhead? I mean, soft tissue probably behaves a bit like a curtain with a slit, so the thick part of the blade just moves it aside, but bone presses onto the newly cut hole with every muscle attached to it, so it's probably best if the bone is split entirely instead of just cut in a slit by the blade? Isn't splitting the reason wood axes have shallower angles, so that they'd split the wood rather than cut it and get stuck?

[@jonabub]

@@RanchFairy And also huge thanks for responding. I mentioned you the other day in a video of some Europeans trying to analyse what guillotine design was best for cutting / splitting since their experiments reminded me of some questions that you were also seeking to answer. Don't remember the name of the channel right now, but i could check if you don't find it.

[@OldDerelict]

@@jonabub Wood has a grain, and an ax splits the wood along the direction of the grain. Bones do not have a directional grain. The mechanics of splitting a bone are not the same as splitting wood.

[@RanchFairy]

@@jonabub Ok. we are on level ground. Axes are double bevel and despite the approach angel of the edge, we've all had them "Stick". Depending on the ax and its intended use, you may be chopping pieces out, or using a maul / splitter. But a typical ax is designed to chop pieces, not split in one hit. Single bevels rotate naturally and then increase the "pressure" on a bone relational to density and forward motion. We are doing a podcast with a cardiothracic surgery guy this weekend to discuss "how bones break". Because I don't understand it all, but I am not afraid to be wrong, ask, then "it's better to be mostly right, than completely wrong"! - multiple people are cited as the author of that one! Anyway, all broadheads, except single bevels, STOP rotating at impact. The edges cut the tissues, blood, fat lubricate, etc. I'm pondering your comment. But I've shot thin edge broadheads and broadheads up to .08 thick. The thicker heads are usually one piece broadheads and I've never seen an issue with penetration. Now, one interesting tidbit that might be mechanical "dis"advantage (just thought of this, so I'll throw it out there). There are a rash of folks making bevels above 35 up to 40+ degrees to make them "tougher" and hyper rotate.....Note - they can also be made of cheaper steel, less focus on temper, and some other cost saving moves. With NO CONCERN for edge sharpness, which is a how broadheads kill. Marketing only. That aside. If my noodle is working, that is decreased mechanical advantage (more drag on the "Broadhead" as you have noted) due to reduction of the cutting edge. Stretched out on the theory I propose, it's a very big change, because the edge of the bevel is so small. What I do know, those higher bevels have reported redirects and weird arrow performance at impact - especially on larger animals like Cape Buff. It's not a huge number. But most people don't shoot 5 cape buff per trip. So the few we have reported back (And ones we don't) scream loudly in the "what the heck happened?" world. More to come. Solid discussion.

[@MagnumArrowArchery]

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[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

Were Native American broadheads long and slender? I don't think they were. They sure shot a bunch of animals! Don't bash me, I'm just saying. They are correct and I am sure if they knew they would have made them long and slender!! Thanks Troy and Dr Ed for all you do!

[@joshbriele325]

Some certainly were. Most of the ones I've seen were longer and narrower then many fixed blades I've seen

[@RanchFairy]

There's some debate on this. We don't have any Indians to talk to. Not trying to be a smartalek. Lots of people think the little tiny heads, "bird points" were for big game. A very small narrow head would penetrate better. Many of the points were long and slender.

[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

@@RanchFairy Ik, I was just interjecting some thought! Thanks Troy!

[@OldDerelict]

Take a look at the Folsm and Clivis points. They are long and narrow for their width. These were used during an era when the animals hunted were large: mammoths, giant sloths, camels, and giant bison.

[@RESPECTTHEOUTDOORS]

The loss of weight when going to a lighter setup is replaced by added speed , the whole weight idea makes sense if you are dropping a light and a heavy object from the same height to the ground but if you speed up the lighter object you can make it hit as hard because of the added speed it will overcome the weight difference that is why the newer faster bows with the lighter stronger arrows are more efficient and shoot flatter. If you take a 350 grain arrow tuned correctly and a 600 grain arrow tuned correctly both having the correct FOC and shoot them out of the same bow and not change the draw weight or the sights you will see the Truth of it all , Now that being said if you take the 600 grain arrow and put it in a bow that will push it as efficient as the 350 grain arrow you would have something but no one is using bows with 150 pounds of draw weight and for the guys that use crossbows look at the draw weight on there bows and the weight of there arrow setup it’s a clear reason for this, If you want to go to the traditional side of things yes heavy is nice with a traditional bow but you are not expecting to take a long shot and the weight helps with hand shock because those style bows are so aggressive in a forward driven limb it needs the weight to tame it down it’s 2 totally different worlds. With the older compound bows they were not built to shoot an arrow of very light weight because they wouldn’t stay together along with older string technology. Everything works together and you have to tune your bow to be as efficient as you can with in reason but this idea of piling a bunch of weight into the arrow for more penetration is just handicapping yourself and your bow and adding on more thought about your trajectory when that animal is in front of you when you need to concentrate on aiming and hitting the mark, It’s a reason your high powered rifle can do what it does just go to the ammo box of your favorite deer rifle and read the box and see how many Grains that bullet is and then you will realize what the speed has to do with the penetration, speed will overcome the lack of weight plain and simple. And as far as fixed blade broadheads all I can say is you better know how to tune your bow if you want them to fly close to the same you better make sure they spin true and you better hope it’s not a windy day because they act like little wings in the front of your arrow, this is why the engineers designed the mechanical broadhead so it would lay down and be more arrow dynamic doesn’t that make sense the wind can’t catch the broadhead and drive your arrow instead of your fletching and it is more efficient with bone because unlike the fixed blade the mechanical blades can actually break allowing the arrow to continue to move in its path without being stopped making it more efficient a fixed blade can wedge and become lodged and never make it to vitals but then again nobody should be aiming for bone that is why we should be concentrated on accuracy and correct tuning of your bow and arrows instead of building an arrow to try to compensate for sloppy shooting habits or mistakes STOP AIMING FOR BONE PEOPLE the vitals are not covered by the shoulder bone they are in the rib cage we need less deer limping around crippled up calm down and make a good shot stop taking crazy shots

[@patrickgallagher4344]

Troy has disproven everything you just wasted all your time typing!! lol 😂

[@RESPECTTHEOUTDOORS]

@ Awwww I get it now lol… 😂 I hope y’all work it out

[@twl10101]

@teamarovirginiahoytaaron2807 "It’s a reason your high powered rifle can do what it does just go to the ammo box of your favorite deer rifle and read the box and see how many Grains that bullet is and then you will realize what the speed has to do with the penetration, speed will overcome the lack of weight plain and simple." So, by your reasoning, I can take a .243 85 grain bullet leaving the barrel at 3200fps and do more damage at lets say 300 yards to an elk, than a .300 win mag 185 grain bullet leaving the barrel at 2960fps. Yeah, right, just keep trying to make up your own version of physics.

[@RESPECTTHEOUTDOORS]

@ yep because that 300 will zip through him like hot butter and that 243 will go in and flatten out and do damage

[@RESPECTTHEOUTDOORS]

@ you just proved what I was saying by the way, 185 grain bullet and it’s devastating and how is that possible? “SPEED” and to add to that a bullet is designed to flatten out and stop inside the cavity with such force it causes complete destruction of everything inside and that is with just 185 grains , an arrow is designed to cut through not stop , that little.243 will do what it is designed to do but most people won’t know that because they just assume it won’t just like they assume this heavy arrow bullcrap

[@ScottWConvid19]

There's no F in communism! ... Two of my favorite practical physics educators streaming from their man caves. The internet does have some pros and some cons.

[@jerrypoling3106]

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[@chrispalffy3511]

Because you're answering the dumb questions from viewers who don't have critical thinking ability, I guess I should thank you guys for spelling out these obvious things. On behalf of real hunters out there, thank-you for your sacrifice, Troy and Dr Ed.

[@RanchFairy]

Thank you

[@anthonyforfare7223]

And I thought the “F” in communism stood for fooled? Learn something new everyday 👍😉😆🤣😂🤣

[@gordonneverdies]

Fantastic shirt Troy! Don't forget what the commie KZbin kids say... "Communism works great, it just hasn't been implemented properly." 😂😂

[@RanchFairy]

@@gordonneverdies it works great as long as you’re running it!!

[@paulvega9893]

This is ridiculous people are fighting science. One thing to think about missiles, rockets, bullets . Common it's common sense.

[@star-b-qpodcast54]

Dr. Ashby’s response to Chris Bee was irresponsibly disrespectful and unbecoming of a man who believes he should be speaking on behalf of all bowhunters. I and many hunters I know believe progress through civil discourse and respect is the best course of action for this and other potentially inflammatory or hot-button issues related to hunting. I’m not sticking up for Chris’s decisions but I’m not damning him; I don’t particularly like him and I don’t particularly like these two guys either. Dr. Ashby should be ashamed of the way he treated Chris, just on a human level, from hunter to hunter.

[@RanchFairy]

@@star-b-qpodcast54 We too believe in progress through discourse. Our discourse varies from yours. You good with that? Or want your own opinion to be the reigning mantra? Thanks for your comment.