WHY IS MY ARM & ARMPIT NUMB AFTER BREAST CANCER SURGERY? Explaining Axillary Nerve Tissue Damage

[@susanhartley5732]

Thirty year survivor this year. Third stage, estrogen positive. Thirty-two lymph nodes removed with 21 of them positive. Numbness as you perfectly describe until last year when I experienced some of those lightening bolts, twinges. Again as you perfectly describe. Had to smile about my dear body persisting after all these years. Big hugs. P.S. Ice packs are wonderful for pain. Never needed anything else for pain.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Susan, Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@nicholabrown11]

My breast care nurse has warned me not to use ice or heat packs, said it would be damaging. I did put a gel pack (not put in the freezer) and hated even that cool sensation.

[@susanhartley5732]

Too bad. My doctors and nurses encouraged me to use ice packs for pain, even providing me with hospital packs to insert ice cubes in. Worked marvelously for me. Never needed any pain meds, even over the counter. I wrapped the soft material packs in a towel.

[@nicholabrown11]

@@susanhartley5732 brill. I will look into this. Doctors and nurses do not always get things right. I am one for natural remedies.

[@nicholabrown11]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio Hi Jen, do you have any views about the use of ice or heat packs for pain? My breast care nurse has said not to use them in the armpit area but other patients swear by them. I have a sore pain in the armit area that comes and goes.

[@margie9026]

OMG!! Thank you!! Like the comments from others, I was totally clueless and so worried that I had early signs of lymphedema. You have eased my anxiety!! I am so grateful!! I wish every medical provider would use your video to educate their patients!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Margie! Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@0420melanie]

totally my case as well! I got 6 lymph nodes removed during my bilateral mastectomy. It's Day 16 post surgery , and I started to feel uncomfortable obviously. I was even afraid to touch it, now I know I can do massage instead!!! Thank you so much, Jen!

[@mariarussell5882]

Why don’t they thats the question??? Glad to here eased anxiety, tapping can also ease anxiety💕

[@traceepenn5904]

I am not a cancer patient, but i had breast reduction and lift in December. In January I begin to feel a lot of pain in my arm pit area where he performed lipo on the sides in that area, I have been having bad arm pain as well that has now caused my pointer finger to be numb and lower arm. No medications helped. They sent me to pain management. Now I have to get an MRI and Nerve test done. Lately the only thing that is coping the pain is Nervive and excedrin ache both over the counter medicines. I am nervous and praying no permanent nerve damage. Thank you for this video.

[@cherylbradley5356]

I had a right right breast mastectomy and 4 lymphnoids taken out 7/27/2022. The pain was horrendous. I cannot explain to you enough how painful this was. I have healed but will never be the same This condition humbled me. It scared me. It made me analyze my life from the beginning of it. The aftermath pain is something that I could never describe or even compare to any other pain on this entire earth!!!!!!!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Cheryl, I am hearing you. I see so many women who have a lot of armpit pain following surgery. Have you seen a trained therapist to help you with these symptoms? I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@mechthildschoeberl4839]

I had 14 lymph nodes removed and never had any pain! I don’t know why you had so much? Ask the surgeon !

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

@@mechthildschoeberl4839 Everyone has a different reaction but it is more common than not that women experience armpit pain. Jen

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

@@mechthildschoeberl4839 everyone is different when it comes to pain following surgical procedures. Sadly a lot of patients do ask their Medical Professionals are don't get answers.

[@julieheit2006]

Omg, thank you......i have been in so much discomfort since surgery in late February but the only response I've had is 'thats normal, dont worry' but no one has explained why i am numb and so bloody uncomfortable in my armpit. Half the time i just feel my care team are going through the motions and ticking off their To Do List for Jules!!! Your explanations have given me an overwhelming sense of relief and that i can start to look forward to going back to being normal again. The hardest part of my journey to date has been the pain and numbness in the armpit and inside my arm, as well as not being told by the surgeon these are the things to expect.......i shall be following your channel closely. Thank you ❤️

[@elsieksa6852]

Praise to Almighty, it's my 8th month post right breast lumpectomy, & right axillary lymph nodes(18) dissection due to right breast's Multifocal Invasive Duct Carcinoma. Post surgery, i experienced this kind of unbearable feeling of my skin being torn apart. As of this moment, there's a feeling of discomfort of numbness, and thickness @ my right armpit extending to my arm. I refused right breast's mastectomy, chemo, & radiation therapies because i believe in destiny ... and so, i lift everything unto God. Thank u for the information which is educational, & additional knowledge about my present health condition which provides a great relief from my anxieties. May God bless u more ...

[@meb6140]

Thank you so much ! My mom recently got her lymph nodes removed and is currently under chemotherapy. I’m trying to understand breast cancer more so i can help her ❤

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback! Well done for helping your Mom! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@alyndaponder2832]

Thank you, Jen, for providing so much great information. My surgeon told me none of this. If not for you, I would have had to search to locate information. Your explanations are thorough and beneficial. My surgeon also didn’t explain sentinel node biopsies or the lack of significant benefit in removing nodes with low grade/stage cancers. I had DCIS.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Alynda! Thank you as always for your positive feedback. It is very much appreciated. I am sorry to hear this information was not passed on initially by your medical team. Jen

[@aleecewhite3919]

Omg I just said the same thing. My surgeon said nothing about post-op numbness or cording. Why do we have to learn this from KZbin

[@accidentsafe]

@@aleecewhite3919 How is your cording doing?

[@aleecewhite3919]

@@accidentsafe It ended up not being cording but just post op tightness that resolved about 3 days after my new surgeon examined me.

[@mjudge07]

Same here ! if it wasnt for your videos i would be in the dark ... very blindsided by post op side effects. I thought i just had to recover from biopsies and sentinal node surgeries then masectomy / reconstrution .... then after the 6 week marker passed and i thought id be back to normal one by one problems of deep stomach scarring which shocked me under arm pain and swelling stiffness and soreness. also i had problem with canulas leaking repeatedly into arm and medication alergic reactions which still pain me internally. 2 days before surgery i crushed my finger to nothing between 2 big rocks in garden ... My brain is receiving so many nerve signals its almost shut down .. i really would have appreciated a heads up from medical team as to what might happen ... and be patient with recovery its not finished at 6 weeks which is what i took from chat ... then i was discharged for 3 months and all the new stuff emerges. your videos are most appreciated and important and i thank you for you knowledge and generosity xxxx

[@kimispebble9272]

Far out, your ability to describe EXACTLY what I'm feeling just blows my mind. From the weird zaps to the deodorant thing you've absolutely nailed my experience. 😁 I'll also echo what others have said - such a shame surgeons don't tell you this stuff (what will actually happen). Thank you thank you for reassuring us all. 🥰💕

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you so much for your lovely response Kimis! I so appreciate it. Would you mind if I used your comment as a testimonial on a workshop? I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@kimispebble9272]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio Yes, you can certainly use my comment as a testimonial! I've joined the FB community already - will introduce myself on the welcome thread. 😊

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

@@kimispebble9272 Thank you so much!

[@dellyboot2703]

27 months to the day that I had a mastectomy and all lymph nodes removed and still numb under the arm. Glad to be numb in the expected places! Great video, thank you x

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi! Thanks for your feedback! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@sandrajollie2123]

Mine numbnesses lasted 4 years . I had surgery and lymph removed bc it was protocol where I did. It came out clear but I had numbness over years and pain under my arms was a constant. Recently went away . Radiations has short and long term side effects . Like chemo it is also toxic.

[@rgvmd8305]

Hey is your numbness gone ?​@@sandrajollie2123

[@sophiaoh5986]

Thank you for your video Jen. I am three weeks post mastectomy operation. Your explanation has made more hopeful of the nerves recovering and therefore motives me to do the massages and stretches.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Sophia! Wonderful to hear this video was helpful. I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@kelliartinian1889]

Appreciate the explanation. I am 4 weeks out from a preventative mastectomy in which some auxiliary tissue was removed from my left axilla and I have numbness in exactly the places you describe! Good to know why and like others, neither the breast surgeon nor the plastic surgeon who did my reconstruction mentioned this! Stimulating the area makes total sense to me. Thanks so much🥰

[@PatriciaSelin]

One week post mastectomy. Your video is informative and reassuring. It also boosts confidence and helps in the healing and recovery process. Thank you!❤

[@carolbaits9562]

Thank you for this information! At a 12 month check up with the physician's assistant, I discussed the numbness and was sent to a lymphedema specialist. I did have physical therapy, which was very helpful. But it would have been even more beneficial to have been made aware of the possibility of numbness in the post surgery appointments with my surgeon. THANK YOU!!!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Carol, so glad you found this video helpful! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@suzettedelmage1375]

Thanks for providing these informative, well presented videos, I am 4 weeks out of surgery (mastectomy and axilliary dissection) and your professional guidance and expertise is very helpful as I start on the road to healing and recovery. I'm feeling much more confident about managing and working through post-surgery issues such as numbness, cording and reduced range of motion. Thank you so much - will be watching for more!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Suzette! Thank you so much for watching my videos and your lovely feedback. I really appreciate it! So glad your confidence has improved from the content. I hope you continue to go well! Jen

[@danamauer4557]

These videos are an excellent resource. I did not receive any of this factual detailed information post surgery and they have answered all of my questions and more. Invaluable resource. Thank you to Jen. 🙏

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Dana! Thank you for your lovely feedback. I'm so happy to hear the videos have been helpful. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@cathydombrovske9235]

Very informative and helpful -- knowing what I'm feeling (or not feeling) is normal, and something I can work on. Thank you!

[@kathyadmirespurlock5308]

Exactly what I am going through now. I had a Massive modified mastectomy 6 weeks ago, drain tubes still attached. Going through this exact numbness at the exact places you described.

[@rennymartin8906]

Thank you so much for your videos! You speak to all the questions that I wondered about!

[@Rose-nh9kr]

Thank you I feel so much better mentally after listening to this video. I’m not as concerned about the numbness and will start to massage and exercising tomorrow. I’ve watched so man6 of your videos they are so helpful and I think you should have your own show so that all breast cancer survivors can gain insigh5 and awareness of what’s happening after their surgery. You are so thorough in your explanation. Thank you so much. You’ve helped more than you could ever know. You are a blessing to all breast cancer survivors.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely comment! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@amb7412]

Thank you I was wondering what was going on. I've been massaging my arms and armpits along with purchasing a compression bra and these things have made a great deal of difference. The numbness is nearly all gone.

[@accidentsafe]

How are you doing now? Did your arm go back to 100%?

[@amb7412]

@@accidentsafe Not on their own unfortunately I had to begin physical therapy in June of this year, because I began reconstructive surgery after the earlier DMX. In the Fall I had a DIEP surgery, which left a great deal of trauma to my underarm, arms, and torso areas. I had a great deal breast tissue in my underarm areas and numbness from in my arms after the 11 hour surgery. Physical therapy has been tremendous in giving me back usage and fluid release. Restoring some sensation is an added bonus. You might want to discuss with your doctors on seeing a specially physical therapist who is trained as a BC PT. The best of luck to you.

[@cherrydytian6001]

Thank u so much for this info. I feel it exactly post surgery. Worried it is the start of lymphedema. God bless u for sharing this info it sure gives me comfort that it is normal after surgery.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

You are so welcome! So many women are not being informed that numbness / altered sensation is a very common side effect of lymph node removal. If you would like more support I have a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@JenniEden]

Oh wow this was sooo informative - I mentioned my arm yesterday at my assessment but they had no ideas or suggestions - so I decided to stimulate the area with a massage tool - I'm 7 days post opp, but this video has been so informative and now I know I'm at least doing the right thing X

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback Jenni! So pleased you gained good information from the video. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@JenniEden]

Excellent! I've sent a request 💜

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

@@JenniEden You're in! x

[@slangin.apples]

Thank you so much for this! It’s so frustrating. This has helped me understand better what Im experiencing.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@kimberlyfaure1845]

2 months since my last 2 surgery and my numbness is still very much there and annoying. I had two surgeries on the same breast and 10 nodes taken out. Sometimes my numbness feels like a big brick lodged in my arm. It’s numb and tightens up. I look forward to all this ending soon🙏🏻. Really appreciate this video. God bless you.

[@allisonwandrey7895]

Thank you so much for this video. This calms my anxiety from my lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback Allison! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@jamiewarkentine7108]

I just had my second axillary lymph node surgery and I didn’t even know axillary meant armpit . I have learned so much from this video and feeling relieved that my super sore armpit and arm is normal and will get better .

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback Jamie! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@rgvmd8305]

In how many months you get sensation back to your armpits?

[@jamiewarkentine7108]

@@rgvmd8305 A year later and I still have minimal feeling, great for tickle fights with my granddaughter 🤣

[@rgvmd8305]

@@jamiewarkentine7108 I am 35y old, there is skin infection in underarms which has been removed. But the underarms area & little part of tricep is now numb, and my doctor said, it will come back after 1 month. Now I am scared. Will I get this in future or not ? 😐😑😶

[@jamiewarkentine7108]

@@rgvmd8305 I’m hopeful sensation will improve for you 💕

[@93075redhorse]

Thank you so much! Finally my questions have been answered thoroughly. I am 3 weeks after lumpectomy and sentinel biopsy, 11 lymph nodes have been removed and i have been searching answers to this numbness and pain feeling and finally i got a good explanation, thank you for making videos, it really helps alot.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for the lovely feedback Sofie! Really appreciate it! I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@93075redhorse]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you, i will check it out.

[@indigoqueen77]

thank you so much for this. I really needed the validation that even after everything that happened to me this is something that troubles people like me and I have every right to know what it is and what to do with it.

[@Victorias_Gems]

Always so helpful and informative. Thank you Jen. This video helps to explain so much.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thankyou for your lovely feedback Victoria!! Really appreciate it and so glad the video was helpful. Jen x

[@ext1013]

Thank you for this information. Actually, I feel a bit of sensation on where my breast used to be. Sometimes, it itches and I reached for my breast and I realized, oh it's not there anymore. I think this what they call phantom feeling. For me, this is not a negative thing. It's telling me that I still have that sensation. Again, thanks for the talk.

[@stchannel2476]

I feel that too. Oh so something like that exits.

[@carolinedourley8250]

Thank you Jen. This helped so much. I was experiencing this exact thing and had no idea why this was happening.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

So good to hear this Caroline! I've shared my Private Facebook Group link with you in your other message. Thanks again for commenting! Jen

[@fayerawling2900]

Thank you so much like some other comments i was never told any of this, has really eased my mind,I am 2 weeks out of surgery and experiencing all these symptoms, Great video deapite my numbness during night i will definately sleep easier, knowledge is bliss😊🙏

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback Faye! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@patphone5834]

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[@carillonfaery1797]

Great information and advice thankyou 👍 🙏 😀

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Carillon, thank you for your lovely feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@LisaBeatsCancer]

9 days out of DMX and this is a very helpful video. It's numb but also hurts!!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Lisa, yes the numbness can be profound but is normal and typically improves as the months pass. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@erikabockos8665]

Thank you so much Jen! A very informative video. Exactly what I'm going through at the moment.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

You are so welcome Erika! I have a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@CORETTALUBONA]

Wow, very educative program, please keep it up, have learnt alot.👏👏👏

[@amylovebaird]

Thank you thank you thank you! Finally an explanation of why I’m feeling this numbness and shooting pain/sensation under my arm. My surgeon didn’t mention any of this pre or post op and I was very frustrated with the lack of information. This is going to help so many others who were uninformed of this side effect. Is there a specific timeline after surgery when I can start massaging?

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Amy, thank you so much for the positive feedback. Really appreciate it. Massaging the armpit can start once your wounds are healed (approx 4 weeks post surgery), and as long as there is no infection / seromas. If unsure check with your medical team. Jen :)

[@stchannel2476]

This was very informative. Doctors don’t really talk about this kind of thing. I had a mastectomy a month ago and have been doing rehab exercises and I can use my arm almost normally now. The numbness and pain in my arm is gone but my armpit and underarm area is still numb. Thanks for your videos and I’ll watch the one you mentioned about the cording.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

You're so welcome ST Channel! Yes, this is another side effect not discussed in much detail. I believe our Doctors need an up-skilled Nurse that can fill in the information gaps because a lot of Doctors don't have time for all of the other issues that can pop up. Jen x

[@cynthialesser2986]

Thank you for such caring support and answers to my numbness question

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Cynthia! Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@suzannehay2984]

Thank you. Another informative video that is exactly what I needed. Your deodorant story was me last week!

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

You are so welcome Suzanne! Thank you for watching! Jen x

[@lisastagg1154]

BRILLIANT! Thank you for exactly the information I needed. Perfection. 😃

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

So pleased to hear this Lisa! I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@Cmkrs34]

5 yrs on i was still suffering nerve pain and 33 yrs later still am except when im in 21 degrees heat.

[@imankarrar4925]

Thank you very much Gen your videos are so informative snd professional.I treated my chording following your instructions and it's helped me cure it! I do have the armpit numbness since i had surgery but today your video is reassuring and I will start exercises and massage.l can't thank you enough keep it up!

[@lillianjenkins857]

Thank you so much for creating a video on this topic. This has been really helpful for me

[@brazilstar2250]

Great information, Thank you for doing this video. You mention exercising being important but can you tell which exercise other than touching the are lightly, will help.

[@fanolawilkinson9697]

Thank you for sharing.

[@carriehoyles8591]

Very clear, understand things more,thank you

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@renukadevi9424]

Thank u Madam for good information. I am facing same problem after right axillary lymphadenectomy, 17 nodes removed. Now I feel happy that I have chances of regaining my sensation back. I will work on that.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Glad this video resonated with you! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@mrsmcarey]

Hi yes very helpful I am 11 days post op for lumpectomy and lymph node surgery and yes m armpit to elbow issues numb also particularly odd my neck to ear feels odd but not exactly numb. I am hopeful that the feeling comes back eventually

[@bernadettecharles8500]

Thank you very much for this information, God bless you.❤

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

You're very welcome Bernadette! I have a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@melaniemcneil407]

Wow, another great video. My medical team was very good but I didn't get any of this information from them. Thanks so much.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you Melanie! Jen :)

[@alyndaponder2832]

I’m 15 months post BMX. I had a numb or really sensation less area for over a year in the medial upper arm area. My acupuncturist has worked on it for 3 months and my sensation is finally returning. If you are experiencing this, find a great acupuncturist.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Alynda, glad to hear the sensation is returning, just be cautious with skin penetration on the same side of lymph node removal for risk of infection.

[@alyndaponder2832]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio we are. Thank you so much!

[@NeidaQuito]

THANK YOU very much! I'm clueless. I thought it's just me. But you have discussed the same thing I was feeling.

[@renuroy3888]

Thank you so much for brilliantly informative presentation. My surgeon did not mention any of this. I had right breast mastectomy three months ago and I have numbness exactly as you described it. Wonderful to hear that perhaps next by this time, it will be gone. Shall start serious massage. So blessed to have come across this video of yours. God bless you. Renu Roy from Germany

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Renu! So sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you for your positive feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@rachaelmcnish3871]

This was very informative. Does the hard scar tissue ever get soft?

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Rachael, thanks for watching and for your question. Hard scar tissue can become softer but sometimes it takes a lot of hard work to improve the tissue flexibility. I must say hard work usually pays off with scar tissue. Jen

[@SCLana]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio do you have a video how to do that? Thank you

[@dianaflores324]

Very informative; thank you!! Fantastic information!!

[@HM-wl1xf]

My feeling came back almost exactly 2 years later

[@Amoreena51]

Thank you for your wonderful videos….not only are you charming, but *most* informative, too! Three weeks ago I had a single mastectomy with 1 sentinel lymph node removed and just last night I realized I’ve developed cording. 😬 I intend to watch your videos on this topic, too! Even though it’s only been 3 weeks, I have been experiencing precisely those odd, “tingley” flashes of sensation around the area where my breast was reconstructed: I actually has a procedure called a Goldilocks so I have a small mound of re-purposed tissue still remaining. I was very glad to hear you say that this is the symptoms of nerve regeneration, as I had suspected. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Amoreena! So sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you so much for your lovely feedback on the videos. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@DebbieD-kz9xv]

Dear Jen. 6 weeks after lumpectomy and lymph node removal and today I found thia video. Now i know why my armpit is numb. My surgeon never explained this at all and i was beginning to wonder what was wrong. This should be told to us by our doctors.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, so sorry for my delayed reply. Thank you for your comment and positive feedback. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@DebbieD-kz9xv]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you. I have just applied to join.

[@rimisdailylife8581]

Thank you so much for providing some important informations.❤

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@botetyamgal3137]

Just about 2 months since my bilateral mastectomies with only 2 lymph nodes remove in my left side. But I have a lot of numbness feeling in my left armpit, arm, side chest area and towards almost a half of my back area. Thank you for the tips. I been exercising and doing heating pads per my plastic surgeon recommendation. I'm going to add massaging the area.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi! Thanks for your comment. Numbness is really common and I hope this video has helped. If you'd like more information please feel free to join my private Facebook Group "The Compass Community". I do regular free live education sessions on managing and treating side effects of Breast Cancer: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@ayhantokcaer8404]

When and how should I start exercising ? I used 1kg dumbles before surgery.I am 72 and want to go back to my routine as soon as possible. Mastectomy in April,4 doses chemo and I'm fine.During this period I exercised my arms as my surgent adviced. But now I want to use dumbles. Thank you.

[@gaynaengland7980]

Thank you, thank you. I sm 2 weeks pist mastectomy surgery & the armpit pain is my msin issue. But to know there might be an end to it once the peripheral nerves regenerate is brilliant (even if it takes over a year - I'll take a mm a day). And if it doesnt go, then at least im well informed as to why.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hello Gayna! Thank you for joining Compass - I'll see you on there! Jen x

[@DianePersaud-f7t]

other than that . indeed I had to put a name to it and yes it's a pain that humble you

[@susanwhite6761]

Thank you for this video! But my numbness is actually behind my armpit below my shoulder blade. I figured it was because of the surgery, nerves, etc...

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Susan, Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@iambobbiesgirl]

Really needed to hear this thank you ❤

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, thank you for your lovely feedback and sorry for my slow reply! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@freewaybaby]

This is the closest information I’ve run across since my double mastectomy 2 weeks ago. I’m not numb….far from it. All of a sudden, two days ago, the insides of both arms as well as the sides of my body, directly adjacent to them, started hurting worse than anything since surgery. The pain seems very superficial, only meaning that it seems like it’s the skin…like bad sunburn, but when looking at it, there is nothing there. There’s no redness, swelling, bruising, etc. , just tender beyond ability to ignore it though. The drains are still in place and probably not going to be removed in two days, when I go in for my 2 wk checkup, since they’re still draining, but after hearing this video, I’m a bit less concerned about this (seemingly) peripheral discomfort. I don’t think I would have been as concerned, had it been there since surgery, but when it cropped up two days ago and at such a distracting level, I was shocked and clueless! I’d welcome a little numbness at this point. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!😊

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, it sounds like you might have Post Operative Myalgia. This is a condition that is not super common but it can happen following breast cancer surgery. Post Operative Myalgia is where nerve tissue that has been traumatized from surgery produces nerve pain in the few weeks following surgery. Definitely get checked by your Medical Team and explain your symptoms but that is my best guess from a distance! If I am correct women with this condition get prescribed neuropathic pain medication to settle symptoms down. It usually resolves over a week or so. I hope this helps. I have a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@abemaysonet7291]

Thank you beautiful lady, I believe you’ve just given me a bit of mental relief. Whew! 😻

[@lwwhite6]

My numbness and strange sensations are in my non-cancer side.

[@patphone5834]

Thanks for explaining❤

[@anekagalo9060]

How about not numb but burning sensation, in the same area (armpit + arm) 😢

[@baetin24]

Very informative. Thanks

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thankyou for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@moirahurlock3801]

What exercises should we be doing for the arm?

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Moira, I've done an earlier video on Upper Body Strength Exercises After Breast Cancer if you're at the stage of moving back into exercise. I've also done earlier videos on Range of Motion following surgery. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@TheChrlan]

Does anyone report a feeling of having a rash besides the numbness?

[@carolineleonard5999]

Yes, like a sunburnt feeling

[@janetmacfarlane2361]

Thank you for the info. I am 5 years out. still some numbness...but still improving

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Janet! Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately numbness remains for some people but consider semi regular self massage to help stimulate this area of nerve tissue. Jen x

[@GODPROPERTY125]

Thank You So Much I'M A Couple Of Days In This Was So Helpful

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi! Very sorry for my slow reply - just catching up on KZbin comments tonight finally. So glad this video resonated with you. Really appreciate the positive feedback! Jen

[@catmom1322]

What's interesting is that, while numbness was the usual, but 17 years later I'm having shooting pains periodically from axilla to upper arm. I use capsaicin for relief.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Cat Mom, again my apologies for my delayed reply. Shooting pains may also be from scar tissue, which can be settled with scar massage. If nerves were growing back it would be atypical for them to still be growing back at the 17 year post treatment mark. Jen

[@revathitorres4795]

Hi Jen really do appreciate the info shared. I had undergone bilateral mastectomy it's now 3 weeks plus. I have been experiencing numbness in the armpit and below the side walls of the breast. Fluid was aspirated n now I see a bulge again. Is this normal to still have fluid after 3 weeks. The area is numb too. Kindly advice

[@lmellott3182]

Thank you, Jen for detailed explanation of the numbness and how the body works to heal itself. Does it also hold true for peripheral nerve damage from chemo?

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, as far as I am aware, yes. Peripheral nerve tissue can regenerate but in both cases (arm numbness from surgery, and hands/feet from chemo) may never resolve for some people. I have an Online Workshop Recording that you can purchase on Treatment Options for Peripheral Neuropathy. Let me know if you'd like the link. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@dorothywells-wz5nr]

Why is there numbing in the scar tissue after mastectomy ? It seems to be helped by Musclemilk. What else can be done to stop this harding pain. Thanks Doro

[@cathhallinan9268]

Thankyou so much. I had no idea and was in the dark.

[@stephanievanwyck1385]

Just had surgery three weeks today..i was told i would never get feeling back and this is my life. Me what. I wasn't told either and i kept asking my mom and aunt whats under my arm. I thought i had been cut there to. This video helped me alot today. I was worried if i could lay on my side or massage it would it harm me.

[@AbodunrinOlajumoke]

Is there any test to carry out to after breast cancer surgery to know if the cancer is still in the breast or spread to any other place

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, thanks for your comment and sorry for my slow reply. Most patients will have their breast tissue sent to pathology after surgery to make sure there are clear margins. This means the pathologists are making sure the surgeon has cut a large enough section of tissue away around the tumor to make sure they have not left small sections of tumor behind. Other tests can include PETscan or whole body CTscan. Double check this information I have provided with your Medical Team as they should be able to let you know as well. I have a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@queen-servant-of-allah2822]

Thank u so much for sharing very useful ♥️♥️♥️🥀🥀🥀🥰🥰🥰

[@slwjosh]

this was so helpful. thank you.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

My pleasure Sarah! I've launched a Private Group on Facebook 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions and Q&A. There is much more interaction on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@HarshaPeramunugamage]

I do brest canser exercises in the morning and in the evening Lymphatic drainage massage is it Ok.

[@proudmuslima2879]

Hello dr hope i get reply from you because i have some concerns i was diagnosed with breast cancer stage one grade 2 in 2018 Invasive ductal carcinoma, moderately differentiated, SBR grade 2, i had 3 lymph nodes removed one sentinel and two non sentinels negative my therparist told me that i should be very careful because i had 4 weeks radiotherapy so may be that caused more damage to the lymph nodes my question is that in such condition for how long my this hand or arm can’t be used for bp checkup , blood collection , canola uses etc plz reply i will be grateful

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi, once lymph nodes are removed and radiation has been performed on the chest wall / armpit region, guidelines suggest to avoid blood draws, blood pressure cuff testing, injections / infusions and so on, on the affected arm for life. I have a Private Facebook Group 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@proudmuslima2879]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank u so much 💐i do not have fb account but can follow u on instagram if there is any account it’s will be great to follow u there also

[@nancysee4932]

Thank you,so helpful.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback Nancy. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@Suzanne-b4h]

It’s been five months since I had my lumpectomy and radiation on my right breast. When I look in the mirror and compare the two, my right breast is darker and my nipple is darker than my left, it’s like there’s a brown circle around it. Also, it’s not my underarm that feels nimble, it’s my breast where the radiation was targeted. Is this normal? Also, where the radiation was targeted, my skin feels so hard and rough there. I would love to hear back from you. Suzanne, and thank you.

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Suzanne, so sorry for my delayed reply. I have more videos on Radiation Fibrosis, which is what you're most likely describing in regards to the symptoms of your breast. Have a look at this video first: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXbRhWOFhKilm9U I also have a Private Facebook Group called The Compass Community. I do regular free Live Education Sessions on Compass and we often discuss Radiation Fibrosis as it is such a big problem. Women are very rarely told about this as a potential side effect of Radiation. Here is the link to my Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@carolsteele5811]

In two days I have a lumpectomy. My surgen didn't tell me ANYTHING about numbness in my arm.

[@Karslp]

How soon after surgery should we be stimulating those numb areas and massage?

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Karen, I would wait until the 4 week mark to start massage to ensure all stitches / wounds are completely healed and closed. If you're not sure, ask your Medical Team and have them take a look at your incision sites. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@Angelbabeali]

Another fab video! Thank you! Poss a video idea? - My Ulnar nerve was damaged with lymph node clearance - any specific tips for helping it heal? My overall arm sensation is improving (10months post surgery) but having issues with my pinky & ring finger on that side and grip

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hey Ali! Thank you so much for your positive feedback. Really appreciate it! I am going to do more videos on Peripheral Neuropathy (which is also nerve damage from chemo) and the treatment techniques I cover should apply to your situation. Jen

[@preetisingh8439]

Jen, thanks a ton. I had 42 nodes removed, it's been 2 months and I have a marginal swelling. I am doing exercises and massage regularly. I have full range of rotation in my arms. Do u think I will be able to manage my lymphedema in this way

[@ginagi07]

Thank you for the video, very usual. I was not told about massaging. Nearly 5 years on and am still numb in my arm pit and have some fluid I think. Is that normal? Thank you

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi G, unfortunately not everyone experiences return of skin sensation. I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@JanetRichards-og9hw]

I had breast cancer operation in September 2022. I am still sore in the region where the drainage system was put in near my armpit. I also had a blocked drain from the day of the operation and I am swollen under my arm and feels like a ball is under my arm. I have Cerebral Palsy. So my mastectomy was on the left side and my water gathered in my cur. I told the doctor three times the drain didn't work. Is that why I have this swelling. Some said i have scar tissue others say fatty tissue and tell me the operation will be major and will hamper me. I am also trying to keep my home which the manager of theh retirement village wants me out. She is causing me stress. I am having to look for a new home off the property. I also have a mother of 93 wanting me to leave the retirement village. She is stuck in the home where we are struggling to pay. I want her to come with me. How can I reduce the stress so I don't reaccur.

[@jennywunderlich4743]

My numbness is in my breast, and this happened slowly over the year. I had cancer 25 years ago and the fibrosis start about one year after. Now it is already under my arm and armpit, maybe in its way to my arm and shouder. I am very concerned in what will gonna happen to me. 🙄

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Jenny, I suggest you seek a referral to a Specialist (most likely a Neurologist) who can perform Nerve Conduction Studies to see where and why you're experiencing increasing numbness. I've launched a new Private Group on Facebook - The Compass Community - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with free weekly live education sessions. I will be able to provide more interaction with everyone on this platform. If you would like to join please click on this link: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@leebyamm]

I experience a burning sensation under my arm. Is that normal?

[@aureacapuyan947]

Why after the operation of my sister breast cancer her whole arm down to her 5 fingers are very very big and pain. Like whole swelling. What is your best advice, is massage therapy Coul d be helpful ? Thank you to hear from you

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Aurea, it is very common for women to develop arm swelling following treatment for Breast Cancer. This is most likely Lymphoedema but I would have this diagnosed by a Medical Professional to be sure. There are other reasons swelling can occur in the arm. I would get a diagnosis prior to any treatment being performed for safety. Jen

[@aureacapuyan947]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you so much .God bless !

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Thank you for your lovely feedback! I have a Private Facebook Group called 'The Compass Community' - a global online Breast Cancer Education & Support Network with weekly live education sessions and Q&A. I will be able to assist you more on this platform. Here is the link if you would like to join: facebook.com/groups/breastcancercompasscommunity

[@jenilter8518]

Thanks for that info. Just wanted to ask, my lumpectomy was three and a half years ago, my arm and armpit have been numb since the surgery and both are still the same, no improvement at all over this time. I also have lymphoedema so the area does get regular massaging, I also exercise 3-4 time per week. Is it normal that there has been no improvement? The area is also quite painful 24/7 Thanks so much for your advice

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Jen! So sorry for my slow reply. Are you asking about the lack of improvement with the numbness or the Lymphoedema or both? The numbness unfortunately can be permanent for some people. Jen x

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

The pain is most likely secondary to scar tissue. Have you had any treatment by a Physiotherapist who specializes in Breast Cancer for your pain?

[@jenilter8518]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio hi, thanks for your reply. I guess I must be one of the ones where the nerve damage doesn’t repair itself. I lymph drainage monthly and do a lot of MLD myself but have never seen anyone for the numbness or pain. I guess after a while I’ve just put up with it

[@soniayost304]

Thank you, this is so on point but I do want to ask about numbness on the side of the breast. My numbness goes from the armpit down to the entire side of my breast. My breast is also very sore, could it be scar tissue? Appreciate your feedback, thank you..

[@TheBreastCancerPhysio]

Hi Sonia, thanks for your question! It is highly likely this is numbness secondary to the surgery. Breast pain is typical after lumpectomy (and radiation) because of scar tissue. If you can start treating the scar tissue at home or with a Physio that works with Breast Cancer patients I would recommend that. I have other videos on how to treat breast pain and scar tissue. Jen x

[@soniayost304]

@@TheBreastCancerPhysio thank you so much! I'm watching your videos and started massaging as you've recommended and I've noticed less soreness already. So so helpful!!