Why is Stroll so SLOW compared to Alonso? | 3D Analysis

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8 ай бұрын

We compared the laps of Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll's lap times in Q1 during the Qatar Grand Prix
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@-socialcredit
@-socialcredit 8 ай бұрын
Honestly even considering Aston's drop off, Alonso has been consistently in Q3 while Stroll has been consistently out in Q1 or in the wall. Monaco and Singapore were just awful
@lunalucifer3335
@lunalucifer3335 8 ай бұрын
american pain
@RANDOMstuffCHANNEL.
@RANDOMstuffCHANNEL. 8 ай бұрын
That Q3 stuff didn't take too long...
@LennertTale
@LennertTale 8 ай бұрын
​@@RANDOMstuffCHANNEL.Good joke.
@antonfloor344
@antonfloor344 7 ай бұрын
Well if they hire Mazepin, Stroll wil look good again😂😂😂
@pedinhuh16
@pedinhuh16 8 ай бұрын
This showcases the importance that the application of the concept of "slow-in, fast-out" on corners is.
@55marpo
@55marpo 8 ай бұрын
it's obvious from the graphic that Lance Stroll is just suffering from Alonso's dirty air.
@johjoh9270
@johjoh9270 8 ай бұрын
Ikr, that alonso guy even brake checks stroll to throw him off line! 😡
@marknaidoo9166
@marknaidoo9166 8 ай бұрын
Lol. You just made me laugh. Best comment I've read in a while😅
@raulfrutosriquelme1234
@raulfrutosriquelme1234 7 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha 😂😂😂
@darraghsmith3226
@darraghsmith3226 8 ай бұрын
Strolls throttle application is a major reason he is failing if you watch Fernando it is almost seamless but for stroll it’s so blunt and treacherous we saw at Singapore coming out of the penultimate corner before his crash he had a massive slide because of it
@slartibartfast2649
@slartibartfast2649 8 ай бұрын
Ahhh so he's failing because he can't use a throttle. Minor issue, He'll grow out of it.
@darraghsmith3226
@darraghsmith3226 8 ай бұрын
@@slartibartfast2649 ah yes a slight unconvinced
@BarelyA1ive
@BarelyA1ive 8 ай бұрын
If it was single area like that he would have fixed it already
@cayden2744
@cayden2744 8 ай бұрын
​@@BarelyA1ive Or maybe he isn't noticing his own mistake. He also applies a lot of steering lock.
@nickel36
@nickel36 8 ай бұрын
​@@cayden2744they have teams of full time staff JUST to analyze that.
@JS-te2vj
@JS-te2vj 8 ай бұрын
Alonso: slow in, fast out Stroll: fast in, slow out
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
More like slow in slow out, he turns in latter than Fernando (who's not a short corner driver, that is already worying) and has absurdly bad hand and foot work for someone in his 7th season.
@Kieran19106
@Kieran19106 8 ай бұрын
​@@quentinhirschfeld9382what it looks like here to me is that Lance dives into the corner as if he is overtaking someone, completely ruining his exit
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kieran19106 He actually turns in later.
@zixiany
@zixiany 7 ай бұрын
more like stroll in, stroll out
@Luke-tl4vw
@Luke-tl4vw 7 ай бұрын
Stroll: slow in, slow out
@BarelyA1ive
@BarelyA1ive 8 ай бұрын
Alonso and his unbelievable talent
@LH44EVER
@LH44EVER 8 ай бұрын
and skill
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 8 ай бұрын
@@LH44EVER Indeed. Talent and skill are different attributes.
@bigsteve4203
@bigsteve4203 7 ай бұрын
No talented driver would've lost 21 times to Ocon in Qualifying. Ricciardo lost 2 times lmao. Overrated AF
@isolator86
@isolator86 8 ай бұрын
Alonso outperforms his car, always did, always will. Simple as that.
@LewisHamiltonMSPR
@LewisHamiltonMSPR 8 ай бұрын
I see this phrase a lot and it kind of bugs me seeing it so much, maybe I'm just pedantic. No such thing as outperforming a car, only underperforming it's maximum potential can exist.
@55marpo
@55marpo 8 ай бұрын
You literally physically can't outperform your car.
@ihsanjayadi88
@ihsanjayadi88 8 ай бұрын
Alonso is good, but the phrase "outperforming" is nonsense if you have any semblance of wheel knowledge at all. It's easy to get sucked by hype when logic is lacking. Try to be better, and appreciate him for what he is while also acknowledging the guys that built the car.
@alexandruilea6471
@alexandruilea6471 8 ай бұрын
If Alonso can get very good placement in the Aston Martin, imagine if he was in the Ferrari, could compete for the championship. It's all in the driver.
@ZAH33D
@ZAH33D 8 ай бұрын
@@alexandruilea6471 Not by a longshot. Leclerc is better by far.
@Tegneaufreak
@Tegneaufreak 8 ай бұрын
We apply Red Bull logic: Car must be built for Alonso 😊
@CKTechTV
@CKTechTV 8 ай бұрын
Well of course. Why would anyone build a car especially for Stroll?
@bullymaguire14
@bullymaguire14 8 ай бұрын
Even though considering Alonso's quali pace isn't his major asset ,him getting in Q3 everytime is super with out developed amr but for Lance it's ridiculous. Hoping for a 100% Q3 rate this season.
@Rubii
@Rubii 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it ended in Austin 😢
@f1_onboardsAC
@f1_onboardsAC 7 ай бұрын
It's not his biggest strength, but not because he's a bad qualifier. He's super strong and consistent in quali. He outqualified every teammate excepting Lewis (10-7), who is arguably a top3 ever in that aspect.
@best___0999
@best___0999 8 ай бұрын
Aston and redbull running with one driver is mad
@JoshAston23
@JoshAston23 8 ай бұрын
Alonso 🔁 Perez
@sebencopeak9839
@sebencopeak9839 8 ай бұрын
​@@JoshAston23☄🔥
@juanin200
@juanin200 8 ай бұрын
@@JoshAston23 You could get DNA samples from every great F1 driver across the entire history, make the ultimate F1 driver and I can guarantee he'd still struggle against Verstappen as long as he's the lead Red Bull driver. They've put way too much money and resources towards Max to let anyone else succeed.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
@@juanin200 Max is a GOAT level driver.
@mufc1417
@mufc1417 8 ай бұрын
Formula Addict: Why is Stroll so SLOW compared to Alonso? Me: Job security.
@adambrough7969
@adambrough7969 8 ай бұрын
Alonso lost about 2/3 tenths with a bad exit oyt of the final corner aswell. Could've been an even bigger gap
@zng8556
@zng8556 8 ай бұрын
These 3d animations are so cool! how do you collect the exact data?
@TurboIntercooler92
@TurboIntercooler92 8 ай бұрын
I was this video and felt like something was missing and it was the slow motion and more detailed description of how differently both drivers approach each corner. Instead I’ve slowed down the video to 0.25’sec what allowed me to finally notice what I was after, but was you can guess I’ve also had to mute the video. If you add that one more detail that would be greatly appreciated since you’re the only channel which offers such great animations. Keep up the great work and looking forward to the next videos
@Zipzapzak10
@Zipzapzak10 8 ай бұрын
Love it man, keep it up! Btw, I think stroll is just a skill issue
@81astri
@81astri 8 ай бұрын
fr
@thelearningmachine_
@thelearningmachine_ 8 ай бұрын
yep, in Barcelona Stroll always went full throttle on the last corner like any videogame player would do, and Alonso said full throttle was not the best, which is counter intuitive, but lift a little bit would give less tyre deg/overheat.
@LewisHamiltonMSPR
@LewisHamiltonMSPR 8 ай бұрын
@@thelearningmachine_ It also can provide a better and shorter angle around the corner, so less distance to cover.
@firstnamelastname8217
@firstnamelastname8217 8 ай бұрын
Stroll has been diagnosed by rocket powered mohawk, nuff said.
@michaelwilkie35
@michaelwilkie35 8 ай бұрын
Not entirely defending Stroll but 1-lap qualifying pace has been well known to be his biggest issue, (other then the rare but catastrophic crash/accident). He does very well on Sundays but like Perez gives himself too much extra work to do from bad Saturdays.
@Josezinhosinatra
@Josezinhosinatra 8 ай бұрын
Would be very interesting to show the "ideal racing line" as reference. Maybe the line from the fastest lap, or averaging multiple racing lines from specific drivers?
@darkknightsds
@darkknightsds 8 ай бұрын
Like it better with just the music
@iyerviking
@iyerviking 8 ай бұрын
Because Alonso is a once in a lifetime driver and Stroll has a rich daddy.
@michaelberube5236
@michaelberube5236 8 ай бұрын
It's very funny to me that Stroll's best weekends of the year came directly after his wrist surgery when he came back early.
@sebastiantovarmarquez1902
@sebastiantovarmarquez1902 8 ай бұрын
Talent
@pacocarrascosa7841
@pacocarrascosa7841 8 ай бұрын
Wicht it's the title of the song that's you're used in this video?
@woodenhoe
@woodenhoe 8 ай бұрын
Stroll just having a stroll
@gopr3117
@gopr3117 8 ай бұрын
The difference at the hairpin was massive. Alonso hit a much later apex
@best___0999
@best___0999 8 ай бұрын
Honestly idk who is underperforming more compare to their team mate stroll or Perez
@anameyoucantremember
@anameyoucantremember 8 ай бұрын
Stroll, in every aspect
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
Stroll's main problem are his inputs from mid corner onward, totally out of touch with what the car is doing, which is quite frankly surprising given he worked with Rob Wilson. Hope he gets dropped at the end of the season if he continues like this, 7 years of F1 for him is too much.
@sdraid
@sdraid 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget this guy got pole on ice in Turkey. He was many times on podiums in Baku. He knows how to drive, but he seems like not interested in racing anymore. His heart is somewhere else.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
His pole in Turkey is literally his only moment of true brilliant in his F1 career. Podium in Baku (which eh did only once, not multiple times) was due to pure luck, was behind his teammate before he had a mechanical failure.
@Ellipsis115
@Ellipsis115 8 ай бұрын
0:40 This is half a seconds difference in 1 corner - this is the difference between short corner "v-ing the corners" vs long corner "u-ing" the corners. They will both be trail braking I'm sure but it's clear 1 driver is concerned about getting the most of all 4 tyres by by slowing the car and turning, not so much about carrying speed where as Lance is throwing it into the corner.
@naaetee
@naaetee 8 ай бұрын
very good content, i love the commenting on this one
@notorioushkm97
@notorioushkm97 8 ай бұрын
I didn't know David Attenborough's brother narrated F1😂 This needs to be a norm for all the videos from now
@HurairahGT1
@HurairahGT1 8 ай бұрын
Im interested to see Vettel vs Stroll in 2021 Qatar Quali. Vettel beat Stroll by like 0.3s. Would like to know if it was due to Stroll being better that year or Alonso being better than Vettel
@kakmaster6945
@kakmaster6945 8 ай бұрын
I think Alonso has always been better than Vettel but he wouldn't realistically be one second faster a lap, I think its more down to Stroll being much more demotivated than when he was with Vettel but in a way that is still Alonso's doing as beating Stroll by such huge margins has facilitated him beating him by even larger margins.
@CKTechTV
@CKTechTV 8 ай бұрын
Alonso is better than Vettel.
@rar5617
@rar5617 8 ай бұрын
Alonso is indeed better than Vettel, the fact that he barely lost to him in the championship in 2010 and 2012 with an inferior car tells you all you need to know.
@bigsteve4203
@bigsteve4203 7 ай бұрын
@@rar5617 Lack of wheel knowledge detected.
@bigsteve4203
@bigsteve4203 7 ай бұрын
You can't compare 2021 to 2023. Very different cars and field spread
@044adithya
@044adithya 8 ай бұрын
maybe a personal preference of mine but id rather not have someone talking
@DJSmith575
@DJSmith575 8 ай бұрын
ALO has better apex selection relative to the upcoming straights likely from being able to rotate the car with the rear or the front when appropriate.
@russianmegabot5272
@russianmegabot5272 8 ай бұрын
Amazing simular to verstappen and Perez. These Cars needs to Put gently in the Corner for the perfekt exit. Simple, but hard to adapt it seems
@sultanabran1
@sultanabran1 8 ай бұрын
what i see is alonso apex later than stroll and coming out of the corner straighter while lance is wider and is still turning at the exit instead of being on the throttle like alonso is.
@j.s.p
@j.s.p 8 ай бұрын
Stroll seems like he misses the apex the most of the time.
@maliklowry1236
@maliklowry1236 8 ай бұрын
"more experienced" try "more talented!"
@maxmagnus3793
@maxmagnus3793 8 ай бұрын
Alonso is the most adaptable driver on the grid, he could drive the wheels off anything. The opposite to Daniel Ricciardo
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
You clearly didn't watched the early 2021.
@f1_onboardsAC
@f1_onboardsAC 7 ай бұрын
He took 6 races to readapt himself. That's something completely normal. Kimi needed half a season and Michael was never able to do so.@@quentinhirschfeld9382
@samudrasyarif6828
@samudrasyarif6828 7 ай бұрын
If the Driver Aston Martin 2023 Line Up is Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel , We think 1 of this 2 driver will fight the champions title or Second driver fight
@venza2524
@venza2524 7 ай бұрын
Nando is simplemente the best ever.
@MishckaJr
@MishckaJr 4 ай бұрын
Stroll is a normal racer, not great of course. He has some podiums ond one great pole. I think he is able to be not hated for father's money support, because F1 saw a lot of absolutely awful payed drivers who was mile away slower then Lance. Hope, he will win the race or have some another podiums before retirement
@TheHybridlogic
@TheHybridlogic 8 ай бұрын
That's because money can't buy driving skills.
@zLusso
@zLusso 4 ай бұрын
It obviously shows in the graphic, stroll has Alonso’s draft, and still couldn’t keep up! CHADLONSO RACING
@andrew_kay
@andrew_kay 7 ай бұрын
And where is the analysis? Coz I didn't find any.
@yeabsamuel2432
@yeabsamuel2432 8 ай бұрын
Now do Verstappen and Perez
@mikeg8447
@mikeg8447 8 ай бұрын
commenting to feed to algorithm
@giorgiom2803
@giorgiom2803 8 ай бұрын
Daddy's cash.
@benitocamelas7238
@benitocamelas7238 8 ай бұрын
Alonso is a nuclear weapon, you cant compare both of drivers
@justforfunpagla
@justforfunpagla 8 ай бұрын
Why is Lance slow you ask? Well we definitely don't need a 3d analysis to know the answer😂😂
@kelsonhenrique
@kelsonhenrique 8 ай бұрын
😮😮
@best___0999
@best___0999 8 ай бұрын
Is called talent lol
@benitocamelas7238
@benitocamelas7238 8 ай бұрын
its Amazing how AM mess Alonso in race on pp just to makeover their son owner
@benitocamelas7238
@benitocamelas7238 8 ай бұрын
ALonso is so good, he was able about to defeat Verstappen in Monaco with AM fourth car
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
1° He finished behind 2° The Aston was the second best car in Monaco
@carlin2235
@carlin2235 8 ай бұрын
Because Strol is a child and Alonso is one of the best in the grid and legendary driver.
@aurktman1106
@aurktman1106 8 ай бұрын
Because Stroll is a good F2 driver...
@aledmb
@aledmb 7 ай бұрын
you don't need 3d analysis to answer that question... stroll is the son of a billionaire that pays for his son to race in f1.
@paulis4u
@paulis4u 8 ай бұрын
I think Alonso also had lower downforce setup? He was gaining on the straights too.
@TomasUjhelyi
@TomasUjhelyi 8 ай бұрын
He was gaining because he’s quicker out of the exit of the corner
@digoov2619
@digoov2619 7 ай бұрын
today stroll was faster than lance 😢
@MetalMonster313
@MetalMonster313 8 ай бұрын
Crazy how it went from "This is a lovely car to drive" to a shit car to drive
@lunalucifer3335
@lunalucifer3335 8 ай бұрын
I mean if you've ever played F1 career on the game it's pretty accurate 😂
@user-ec6kt2fg7m
@user-ec6kt2fg7m 8 ай бұрын
He's got quite the potpourri driving style, if you can call it a style. So erratic, he even did the Verstappen ala 21, simply sending it into the corner with too much speed. Its as if he's forcing the car to things the way he wants.
@MENQN
@MENQN 8 ай бұрын
Stoll was able to beat Vettel at some GPS but Alonso not a chance
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
Washed Vettel + luck.
@MENQN
@MENQN 8 ай бұрын
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 Stroll is slow his name even says Stroll down
@carlosmorgadosilva3517
@carlosmorgadosilva3517 8 ай бұрын
This shows how good Fernando is in these corners which one leads to the next. Honestly, Fernando has outperformed Lance x5 while Vettel only outperformed him x2 which I think is the only way we can compare those two drivers objectively, and Alonso has won that comparison.
@festivegurock2167
@festivegurock2167 8 ай бұрын
very dissapoint how lance drop a lot he did well in 2021 tho in a race he p6
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
He didn't drop, he just has a competitive teammate now.
@thakrak
@thakrak 7 ай бұрын
This video does not answer why. It shows where...
@benitocamelas7238
@benitocamelas7238 8 ай бұрын
cos Alonso is very good
@ivandoe33
@ivandoe33 8 ай бұрын
because Alonso is 1s faster per lap.
@flawless1111
@flawless1111 8 ай бұрын
bcos stroll is new and alonso is a legend
@bwoah76
@bwoah76 8 ай бұрын
7 years in f1 cant be called new, lance is still an okay midfield driver but inconsistent as hell
@cayden2744
@cayden2744 8 ай бұрын
​@@bwoah76 He is literally better when incapacitated 💀
@flawless1111
@flawless1111 8 ай бұрын
@@bwoah76 that is true dad's got money
@dead_redux
@dead_redux 7 ай бұрын
lance is pushing the car too far into the apex trying to brake late thus giving him bad exits, he's overdriving the car
@dukirps
@dukirps 8 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder what Fernando would do in a Ferrari or Mercedes
@Scott-hy7qy
@Scott-hy7qy 8 ай бұрын
If Alonso drove red bull, he could beat Max.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 8 ай бұрын
In your dreams surely. The RB car is super stiff, with a loose rear-end, which is perfect for Max. Alonso would get destroyed.
@TRAYVONN_
@TRAYVONN_ 7 ай бұрын
IT'S A SKILL ISSUE 😂
@Perno007
@Perno007 7 ай бұрын
Lance Struggle
@mrpepin
@mrpepin 8 ай бұрын
When will Laurence Stroll stop pushing his son into doing something he doesn't like and obviously lacks talent for ?
@Dwumper
@Dwumper 7 ай бұрын
Drop the commentary and the slow-mo bits please, it just makes the video worse.
@kuramisaga
@kuramisaga 8 ай бұрын
sector 2 is lance stroll's biggest flop. you can see him deviate from the racing line at 0:51 and even at 1:03 to an extent
@pmatias
@pmatias 8 ай бұрын
Not exactly, late apex vs basic racing line is the key and Stroll always is using basic racing line
@famcantor5
@famcantor5 7 ай бұрын
Because he is slow, that's why.
@Loudeboss
@Loudeboss 8 ай бұрын
Nice analysis as ever but AI voice is bad taste mate.
@ultimatestorm3158
@ultimatestorm3158 8 ай бұрын
Stroll is not interested in F1.
@2_st0ned70
@2_st0ned70 8 ай бұрын
stroll is not a top driver and dont deserve a f1 seat
@bigsteve4203
@bigsteve4203 7 ай бұрын
To all the Alonso jerkoffs in the comments, this is the same guy that lost to Ocon 21 times in Qualifying across 2 years lmao. No talented driver would've.
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