Why Is The Minecraft Community So Toxic?

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5 ай бұрын

I've always wondered if the community had been becoming increasingly more toxic or if it was just me. Turns out, the community's changed a lot in the past few years, and mostly not for the better.
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@benlockwood886
@benlockwood886 Ай бұрын
At least I enjoyed the newer updates, it’s such a shame of how the community don’t appreciate of what they have in the updates.
@averagecrusader5509
@averagecrusader5509 4 ай бұрын
Saw a comment from you on a different video and decided to check out your channel, absolutely not disappointed with that decision. This feels so much better than 99% of minecraft content now. Definitely going to continue watching your channel, keep it up!
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
Thanks dude, appreciate the support!
@SebPostsHere
@SebPostsHere 5 ай бұрын
your content is certainly a breath of fresh air when it comes to minecraft, thanks man
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate the reassurance that I'm doing something right at least.
@SebPostsHere
@SebPostsHere 5 ай бұрын
@@Basegud i personally think you should be more well known, and i find it odd that you aren't, sucks that the algorithm would rather push repetitive SMP and 100 days content than yours
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 4 ай бұрын
I've been playing Counter-Strike for years, I thrive in toxicity, but modern Minecraft discourse is a whole different kind of toxic. It honestly just feels like nobody ever enjoyed the game in the first place and they're all forced to play it, the way they talk about it. Like seriously, you hate the new updates that much? Just revert to an old one or play another goddamn game lmao.
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you on that. One thing I would say though is that some people are not hating on Mojang, but rather they're criticizing them. I think its perfectly valid to give criticism, because it can help make it better. In Mojangs case, there are a LOT of things they could be doing better right now. One thing that comes to mind is communication on things like unimplemented features that have basically been in development purgatory for over 3 years at this point.
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 4 ай бұрын
@@Basegud There's absolutely shit to criticise Mojang for, especially like you mention, the lack of transparency with their process and the features. Notch was a lot better at interacting with the community, sometimes for the better, often for the worse lol. But the way it's done, it doesn't feel like critique, just feels like people who are tired of playing the game and want a new one, but instead of playing a new game, they demand Mojang make Minecraft a new game every update.
@MrBrineplays_
@MrBrineplays_ 9 күн бұрын
​@@plebisMaximusThen part of the community whines when a new update comes out. Honestly it's confusing me and giving me a headache. Like, what do ya'll want?? Minecraft to stay classic or make every update make the game feel new??? And the way the community sees itself and mojang like they're just two gigantic hiveminds is awful. The community is a community, many groups making up a single gigantic group, and to see them see themselves as the all-knowing single-opinionated people is ridiculous. Then how they see mojang as a single company and not different teams working in the same studio. There's the marketing team, dev team, designer team, media team, and all other teams they have. To blame the whole mojang for releasing crap when truth is that the devs are limited by higher ranks or a few laws.
@thecreatorofpc7929
@thecreatorofpc7929 7 күн бұрын
⁠@@MrBrineplays_I think mostly everyone sees any corporation as just a single entity. So I don’t think that’s really an issue with the Minecraft Community, just an issue with how people see corporations, not as a group of people like them, but a single emotionless being unlike them.
@MrBrineplays_
@MrBrineplays_ 7 күн бұрын
@@thecreatorofpc7929 Yeah you're right. And the corporation sees the community as one being too.
@laraprisma6381
@laraprisma6381 16 күн бұрын
A lot of the SMPs are improvisation and roleplaying, but there are definitely some where it's just toxicity. There is also no right or wrong way to play Minecraft, you can do whatever you want in the right context (as is the case with survival challenges and speedruns)
@jogmanson1492
@jogmanson1492 5 ай бұрын
i saw your comment on a video about how minecraft videos are all the same and how you made a hard but impactful choice. your story is just starting keep at it man you got a new watcher
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate it my guy!
@SpaceSoldier248
@SpaceSoldier248 5 ай бұрын
​@@Basegud ​I'm also watching your vids now!
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
@@SpaceSoldier248Awesome news my guy! I appreciate it big time!
@Tr1x13P0ny
@Tr1x13P0ny 4 ай бұрын
I feel like with modern minecraft SMP just feels so dry and boring. One of my friends got minecraft for me just to play on his server, but it got really boring after a week because they were all just really tryhard grinders who had all these fancy items and gear. They gave me an elytra, but it kind of just made the game boring and ruined the reason why I like minecraft; exploration. Why go explore when everything's already been explored by the people who constantly play on the server?
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
never have I ever read a truer statement my guy
@martingogaming1777
@martingogaming1777 3 ай бұрын
I agree. I hate when a friend speedruns for gear and villagers and then flexes on people that they are bad. Before speedrunning players did not speedrun every aspect of the game. Great explanation to sum it up.
@Basegud
@Basegud 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, its unfortunate to see, but its the truth
@Thunderbolt18367
@Thunderbolt18367 Ай бұрын
Yeah, speedrunning and the 100 days crap was the biggest mistake ever brought into the community.
@RohesYT
@RohesYT 18 күн бұрын
​@@Thunderbolt18367for me 100 days isn't that bad.
@Thunderbolt18367
@Thunderbolt18367 17 күн бұрын
@@RohesYT Yeah, it’s definitely not terrible, but it does serve a problem as you’re rushing the game, just like speedrunning. The only difference is that at least it gives you time to do other things in the game
@drewbydoo8945
@drewbydoo8945 5 күн бұрын
Last minecraft live's chat was the biggest cesspool I've ever seen Jesus Christ...
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure they had live chat off did they not?
@mr.jackolantern7220
@mr.jackolantern7220 3 ай бұрын
I think Minecraft is one of the most toxic communities I've ever seen. It's not even funny anymore. I've never witnessed so much hate, slander, and just being plain mean to other players before. It's terrible. I do agree that the size is one of the factors, because it is MASSIVE. One of the most famous and recognizable games of the 21st century. I've been playing the game since 2014. And man back then it was so wholesome and peaceful. Servers were friendly, it was adventurous and exciting to build creations with your friends, getting to explore. As mineplex and hypixel grew, I played a lot of bedwars and back then, older times it was so fun. You can normally win most matches. Now, you are lucky if a match lasts five minutes. It's full of hackers, cheaters, sweats that insult you constantly. It's just sad that it gives a person an excuse to be an asshole just because there cowering behind a screen. Usually there just actual jerks in real life and think since there playing a game that it doesn't matter. I definitely think video games in general are toxic more often than they were even six years ago. It’s sad how the gaming community has become. Of course I don’t think video games are bad for you, I play them a lot on PC or my Ps5. But it’s not as fun to play many games anymore, mainly multiplayer ones. I don't go on hypixel anymore or play cod or anything. And the whole study that playing violent video games results into violence in real life is complete bull shit. There is no steady source that proves that. But the toxic stream of any gamers, hackers, try hards are terrible today. Video games were designed to be fun, to play with your friends, and create things. Not to insult and make fun of others. It’s really sad man. It’s like video games give people the excuse to be an asshole. I think that it falls under people that are competitive naturally and want to win. Which makes sense, we are humans by nature and want to claim victory over things, even small things. It’s what makes us interesting and destructive at the same time. A lot of it I think stems from the certain games you play will have the effect of toxic behavior. Minecraft now is horribly toxic, unless you are playing single player with one friend or alone.. Now it’s filled with cheaters that tell you cringe insults that: “Your so bad,” or “Loser,” or “kill yourself.” It’s insane. I’ve just stopped playing hypixel bed wars now and just stick to single player cause I would rather have a good game that I enjoy than have some squeaky guy scream at me to build faster. Same is for others like COD, chivalry 2, PuBG, Fortnite, anything that involves a lot of players online. I have been getting into chiv 2 a lot because I like sword fighting, history and medieval time periods. It’s fun to play, hack, win matches, sieges, but the community is toxic as hell. I one time, beat this guy in a 1v1 duel by sheer luck and countering with a double bladed axe. After it ended, he personally sent me a message on my Ps5, calling me trash when I just beat him. I just try to ignore it. Most players like that are no lifers and assholes in reality, that hide and cower behind a screen. It’s just pathetic that gaming and the community has died and faded to hackers and toxic matches where it’s just not enjoyable anymore. That’s why I stick to single player and open world games now. But great video!
@Basegud
@Basegud 3 ай бұрын
Well said. I enjoyed reading this because I whole heartedly agree! I just don't get why people feel the need to be this toxic, it doesn't change anything!
@Thunderbolt18367
@Thunderbolt18367 Ай бұрын
the Minecraft community is why I never join fandoms or even acknowledge them.
@heyman666
@heyman666 17 күн бұрын
Minecraft has bad people but at least you are allowed to do it alone and play with good people UNLIKE ROBLOX 1/3 of the community is children 1/3 of the community is online daters 1/3 of the community is people are stock people who want all the robux and most private servers are not free or not available. Mojang is good unlike ROBLOX people THEY they try to make toxicity to go on don't believe me? they made public ugc which now I'm going to stop don't want to get into all the bad game developers and all the people spamming ban and it working all because they said HI That's why I think people may be going a little overboard saying Minecraft players are toxic because if you look at Roblox there are people that find ways to get past the moderation system To SAY the worst words you have ever seen
@Thunderbolt18367
@Thunderbolt18367 17 күн бұрын
@@heyman666 Yeah, but still. At least Roblox and its player base is able to appreciate the game more than the minecraft community
@mr.jackolantern7220
@mr.jackolantern7220 16 күн бұрын
@@heyman666 Yeah of course, depending on the game mode you play in Roblox. I’ve been playing Roblox lately. Not one of my fav games but it’s fun nonetheless. I have not met very many toxic players in Roblox. Most of them have been friendly and nice to me. Players don’t appreciate Minecraft anymore like they used too and they trash new updates. I do agree with you that some areas in Roblox are highly negative. Like it’s version of bed wars. Toxic just like Mc. But Roblox as a whole is a lot more open and wholesome than most other games. Fortnite I refuse to play. It’s overrated. Full of losers who will spend thousands of dollars on custom skins. COD is worse. One time I played on this server with a few friends. It was private but some guy got in somehow, began to burn peoples houses and stealing their loot. We suspected he hacked his way in. Know idea how, but it happened and it was beyond annoying. Took us 30 min to finally ban him as he kept joining then leaving then joining again. Minecraft isn’t fun anymore. It’s not the same as it used to be.
@CambuddyNew
@CambuddyNew 11 күн бұрын
At least 4 people are sane now.
@Basegud
@Basegud 11 күн бұрын
Theres 3 others!?
@matthewhenry86
@matthewhenry86 Күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="450">7:30</a> Nah the reason they seem lazy is Microsoft being bureaucratic and denying almost all proposed changes by the dev team.
@Basegud
@Basegud Күн бұрын
I don't quite know about that one bud, but that may be the case. From what I've heard Microsoft has been pretty hands off about the actual development side of the game and are only the puppet master on things like monetization opportunities or account stuff
@sufi5416
@sufi5416 3 ай бұрын
I have honestly felt the same way. And I feel like sometimes people need to chill out. Because I'm worried how new players are going to see the Minecraft Community. If they see all of the toxic people in this community, I would believe those new players would be like "My god! What is wrong with those people. I'm going to go and play ROBLOX instead of Minecraft. And I can't blame them. Because I would do it too. I feel like some people just need to get off of social media like Reddit, Twitter and KZbin and just play Minecraft casually instead. Or if that isn't enough for you, just take a take a step back, and take a deep breath. Because it's probably not the end of the world. In fact let me tell you a story. Back in 2023 I was very obsessed with the Mob Votes. I was so obsessed that I was becoming drained from Minecraft in general. And I was wondering, why. So I looked within myself mentality and I realized that the Mob Votes are the issue. So ever since then, I had continued to vote in mob votes, but I never debated my options to others on social media. Because it was pointless. And also, I realized who would even care about my opinion on a mob in a block game anyways. And that same principle goes for any other debate in the community. Because more importantly, who would even care about these debates? Its pointless. Besides, I'm a casual player. I play Minecraft because I love building and expanding my creativity on what I can and can't do. I love challenging myself to make big things, complicated things and everything else under the sun. And I feel like others should do the same. I'm happy to be a Minecraft player. I have been apart of this community since 2011. And I'm still happy to still be around after all this time. Sorry if this is to long. I just wanted to get my feelings out about what I think about this topic personally. Thank you for reading this. 😊👍
@Basegud
@Basegud 3 ай бұрын
Love to hear stuff from my fellow 2011 players! You're absolutely right too. The internet has bred this brand of people who all they do is talk shit and have to one up you on everything. These people will not let you enjoy anything if your view even slightly does not align perfectly with theirs and its fucking annoying as hell. Who says your view is right anyway? Maybe mine is, or maybe we're both wrong and the guy over there has the rigtht one! Maybe there ISN'T a right view, which is how I think Minecraft is supposed to be.
@sufi5416
@sufi5416 3 ай бұрын
I think another reason for the toxic environment of the Minecraft Community is because the hardcore players that talk and chat about Minecraft that is usually on Reddit, Twiiter and KZbin, usually those players live in an echo chamber. And when you live in an echo chamber you sometimes forget that your talking to real people or in fact don't realize that they have life's out side of Minecraft discussions. There is a difference between being critical to someone and being hateful just for the sake of being hateful. For example, there was a bunch of people on Twitter during the Mob Vote of 2023, and that these people said something that was so awful that I actually had to double read it again just for clarity. They said, " Not everyone's opinions are equal value" or this, "Why should the results be decided by all the casuals that don't care?" And let me remind you, these are actually human beings that said these comments directly over a mob vote that didn't matter and was meant to be for fun. I know they might be dedicated to this game, but for crying out loud, chill out. You have no right to demonize others just because your frustrated about a mob losing in a pole. In fact these comments came and effected me as well. Because why should I vote in a pole for a fun mob, if your going to take it so seriously to the point of demonizing others just because you wont accept the reality that your mob loss? It's just so frustrating that its starting to become an actual nuclear hell hole to be in. I might like Minecraft, but I can't just watch this and allow it to eat me alive. Honestly I want to this sort of toxic culture to go away, but it becoming harder and harder bye the day. Even if I can't change it, I hope someone else does. I'm sorry, I just can't take it anymore.
@ruthkatz1998
@ruthkatz1998 4 күн бұрын
Yeah people really underappreciate what you get when you pay for Minecraft. Like every version past, present, in future is something you don't really see nowadays. Though I imagine Microsoft is going to pull a Microsoft eventually
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 күн бұрын
Fr, its really incredible that after all this time updates are still free, but in all honesty Minecraft has been sold so much that they don't need to charge for updates lol
@TheBMGGaming4182
@TheBMGGaming4182 12 күн бұрын
Don't even get me started about the Java vs Bedrock debate. It's so stupid to argue which edition is better because all of us have personal preferences! If you enjoy Java, good! If you enjoy Bedrock, good! If you enjoy both, also good! This argument gets so heated that they would get to the point that we Bedrock players are called peasants just because we don't play the "superior" Java Edition, like come on it's not that deep, it's just a silly block game!
@Cygnus_MC
@Cygnus_MC 14 күн бұрын
Nice video bud! I wish i was this good at doing a voice over
@Basegud
@Basegud 14 күн бұрын
Woah now, what are you talking about? I've watched your vids in the past and tbh its kind of an honor to have you in this comments section. Your voiceover is good and I aspire to be just as good as people who are able to do voiceovers just like you. I'm not great but I do know that I am leagues better now than I was say a few years ago. The only thing I credit to helping me was just doing more videos. Practice makes perfect after all. But yeah, your voiceovers are just fine bud!
@Cygnus_MC
@Cygnus_MC 14 күн бұрын
@Basegud thanks bigman. Keep that positivity going!
@ultimate_pleb
@ultimate_pleb 6 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="340">5:40</a> hermitcraft: am i a joke to you?
@CowsinReal
@CowsinReal 4 ай бұрын
I hate people who thinks Mojang is lazy they should try game development I am a game developer and it takes forever to make a game or update it, and Mojang is a big company so they NEED to make sure the update had no bugs, and if ur comparing Mojang to other companies that release big updates that's because Mojang is the only big game company that doesn't overwork their employees
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, I heard from somewhere that the Red Dead Redemption series dev team was overworked to death simply to add 2 black bars to all the cutscenes, which is honestly just kinda funny to me
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, I heard from somewhere that the Red Dead Redemption series dev team was overworked to death simply to add 2 black bars to all the cutscenes, which is honestly just kinda funny to me
@putent9623
@putent9623 4 ай бұрын
Idk it depends one wher your looking. And its not ljke there isnt valid criticism to mojang. Like slow updates with lacking features. Also how they go about these updates. Agsin game dev is hard but so is a multitude of other professions. The points is that why are the updates both slow and lacking. In this video it was mentioned that its because of the commjnity complaining but from my memory the reason mojang has given as to some of their choices was kinda just bad. It almost sounded like a lie. Like how they didnt want to add fire flies to minecraft becaus "they would hurt frogs". What?? Like huh. Is that really a good reason? Its almost hypocritical too. Just giving my two cents.
@Thunderbolt18367
@Thunderbolt18367 Ай бұрын
@@putent9623 But even then, the community blew that situation out of proportion. It’s only two pixels. It doesn’t matter on how easy y’all think it is to code or how simple it is, it’s literally just a spec. You guys were furious over two squares.
@mr.monkey354
@mr.monkey354 2 күн бұрын
Would you rather want an update with no polish but includes tons of content or a update with ​less content but is more polished?@@putent9623
@aspitube2515
@aspitube2515 Күн бұрын
How you’re using bundles? Is that just the snapshot? Or some mod
@Basegud
@Basegud Күн бұрын
Inside of the latest releases of Minecraft you'll find the experiments tab when you go to make a world and in it you can enable bundles. Its really just a datapack that switches on and off though.
@winter_willows2953
@winter_willows2953 5 ай бұрын
It sounds like you haven’t even heard of about half of the major Smps. Yes, when you get to stuff like lifesteal it is about killing each other. However, smps like hermitcraft or the empires or really anyone along those content groups, You don’t see much toxicity neither was there much toxicity with some less or known smps like dominion SMP. I don’t know since I only really look at the storytelling/role-play side of Minecraft. I don’t really see much of the toxicity. Maybe it’s just the speed runner/PVP content creators/viewers that this is a major problem with?
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
Comments like yours are why I make content, because I enjoy discussions within the community! I myself don't really consume smp content all that much anymore. For that reason, I don't really tend to explore the whole smp content side of youtube, so I mainly see what youtube is pushing, and what I see is all the garbage that I stated in the video because that seems to be whats hip and cool right now. Its sad because I know for a fact that there is a lot of good content buried under the massive heaps of money hungry trash, I just wish we'd see more of it promoted to the masses y'know?
@winter_willows2953
@winter_willows2953 5 ай бұрын
@basegud Fair point the algorithm sucks I’m not even sure it pushes what’s actually popular in the sense of engagement rather than clicks. I usually only see the Minecraft but…. Challenges or clip channels. That type of content is only popular because most people don’t have an attention span for big story arcs sadly.
@Void_Ant
@Void_Ant 4 ай бұрын
mans spittin facts right here
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
I try to at the very least
@user-mi5jc6oh7p
@user-mi5jc6oh7p 6 күн бұрын
Bro forgot stoneworks 💀💀💀💀
@Basegud
@Basegud 6 күн бұрын
I didn't forget Stoneworks. I've never heard of or even seen anything about stoneworks and it makes sense because I don't watch the civilization videos and smp videos these days. Also they're a relatively small channel compared to some of the giants making the trash that I talked about, and with youtube working the way it does, it won't recommend that.
@user-mi5jc6oh7p
@user-mi5jc6oh7p 5 күн бұрын
@@Basegud yeah no I was just in a server here I'ma copy and paste what I explained to my friends
@user-mi5jc6oh7p
@user-mi5jc6oh7p 5 күн бұрын
And they acted like they never made Hitler jokes which they have the way I did it was obviously just mocking him
@user-mi5jc6oh7p
@user-mi5jc6oh7p 5 күн бұрын
The community is really fucking toxic and degenerative one guy was named Yakbob the Incester
@gamingvibes9584
@gamingvibes9584 4 ай бұрын
Everything was ok before 1.17
@Basegud
@Basegud 4 ай бұрын
Agreed in full. 1.17 was a turning point. It basically told Mojang to stop doing big named updates because they won't be able to deliver
@zerbutterftw
@zerbutterftw 2 ай бұрын
ong bro frfr 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@faith9515
@faith9515 3 ай бұрын
2b2t content was the fertilizer
@Basegud
@Basegud 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god I completely forgot to mention that. I guess it just slipped my mind while writing but you're absolutely right!
@JerenCoffman
@JerenCoffman 5 ай бұрын
"Every big SMP on KZbin was about killing each other." Bro clearly hasn't watched or even HEARD of HermitCraft. The community as a whole isn't toxic, the part of it that you prefer to run with is.
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
I'll admit that I forgot about Hermitcraft, but lets not kid ourselves here, the majority of smp content coming out these days, is the same recycled crap. Smps like Hermitcraft are certainly the saving grace in this category of content, but unfortunately they're only one smp compared to the literal hundreds of other smps out there that unfortunately get more attention than it simply because its whats hip right now. I dream of a world where we return to the old style of smps and smp content, much like Hermitcraft actually :)
@DiamondDepthYT
@DiamondDepthYT 13 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, Hermitcraft is an exception. I wish more people would see Hermitcraft as an example, and not Lifesteal.
@dooasf
@dooasf 14 күн бұрын
you are speaking fact. you guys must check terraria update to see how mojang laziness is crazy
@Basegud
@Basegud 13 күн бұрын
While I don't think Mojang is lazy perse, I think that they could stand to do more but personally, I think they've learned that because 1.21 is much better than 1.20 and I can definitely appreciate that!
@CambuddyNew
@CambuddyNew 11 күн бұрын
Terraria is way easier to add stuff to.
@mr.monkey354
@mr.monkey354 2 күн бұрын
You are the issue
@dooasf
@dooasf 2 күн бұрын
@@mr.monkey354 sure, monkey
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
2024s gonna be the year that Mojang announces that they're leaving Java, just watch lol
@SpaceSoldier248
@SpaceSoldier248 5 ай бұрын
:(
@JerenCoffman
@JerenCoffman 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the ever peaceful, non-toxic player proposes an idea that would upset many.
@zyposts
@zyposts 2 ай бұрын
that will kill minecraft
@SpaceSoldier248
@SpaceSoldier248 2 ай бұрын
@@zyposts yep
@kisoya1087
@kisoya1087 5 ай бұрын
you call that toxic? Bro, pls don't start playing Destiny 2 xD It's for your well-being xD
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
Don't worry, one of my friends tried to get me to play that game for years. I never caved, so I'm safe :)
@kisoya1087
@kisoya1087 5 ай бұрын
@Basegud i do love D2, but damn some of this community need to go to a therapist
@Basegud
@Basegud 5 ай бұрын
@@kisoya1087if you had to rate which community is worse, D2 or Dream Stans, which one would you pick?
@kisoya1087
@kisoya1087 5 ай бұрын
@Basegud I actually don't know Dream Stans, but I know that I've never saw any other community as toxic like D2..
@cl_interp5
@cl_interp5 5 ай бұрын
I've played Destiny 2. It is no were near the deepest toxic part of Minecraft in which I've seen people get doxed, groomed, DDoS'd and getting their PC ratted
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