Why Islam vs MOICANO! Is One Of The Most Important Title Fights The Division's Ever Seen.

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@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 11 күн бұрын
Dude.....what if Moicano wins now!?
@_heyitsyves201
@_heyitsyves201 11 күн бұрын
He can’t afford to lose!!!!
@gregress6509
@gregress6509 11 күн бұрын
MOICANO. WANTS. MONEY! 💰
@GH-bi2uz
@GH-bi2uz 11 күн бұрын
Did you guys change the title?
@noahsanchez6922
@noahsanchez6922 11 күн бұрын
@@GH-bi2uzno they just predicted the pull out and labeled the video according, even tho they only refer to Arman
@vanng.562
@vanng.562 11 күн бұрын
Man it is very unlikely. VEEERY Unlikely
@PrinceIsot
@PrinceIsot 12 күн бұрын
Really goes to show how deep this division has always been that 3 is the record. With Heavyweights it's because any shot can end the fight, with Lightweights it's because the division advances so fast.
@JakeEwing50
@JakeEwing50 12 күн бұрын
Spot on!
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 12 күн бұрын
Khabib literally retired in his prime. He never lost the belt, or lost at all.
@hardvegetable1598
@hardvegetable1598 12 күн бұрын
The problem with the lightweight division has always been that champions either leave or take a long time to defend their title. By the time they reach their second or third defense, it feels like they have held the belt for three years, with only a few exceptions, like Islam.
@JewruMMA
@JewruMMA 12 күн бұрын
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564he lost the belt as soon as he retired, that’s how the rules work Muslim casual
@silkplayer9
@silkplayer9 12 күн бұрын
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Missed weight in his last fight with Gaethje.
@sldoma
@sldoma 12 күн бұрын
Glad we got Jason back on some analysis. I like the calm delivery
@BradDad88
@BradDad88 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, the roundtable discussions turn him up to 11! These are great.
@I_AM_BAYTOR
@I_AM_BAYTOR 12 күн бұрын
Kermit on xanax.
@tylerakerfeldt7220
@tylerakerfeldt7220 12 күн бұрын
Just say it, Bayliun sucks to listen too
@crankskinatra6038
@crankskinatra6038 11 күн бұрын
I didn’t like bayliun and I didn’t know why at first, it was his kinda hypebeast energy that felt jarring, but I like him now.
@AlienGravy25
@AlienGravy25 11 күн бұрын
@@tylerakerfeldt7220 bad take my man, Max Baylin Jason and Tommy all bring their own sauce to this channel
@Media-Mausoleum
@Media-Mausoleum 12 күн бұрын
On the topic of both Khabib and Islam defending against Poirier I want to add that Poirier was his most experienced heading into the Islam fight and put it all out there because he knew it was now or never so despite being older I honestly hold that Poirier win very high for Islam especially because he actually boxed with Poirier in multiple rounds to a lot of success
@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 12 күн бұрын
Poirier's grappling defences were also at their peak
@truthseeker96
@truthseeker96 12 күн бұрын
Had Khabib fought Poirier for the second time instead of Islam, he would've dominated him the same. Khabib's ground game was just something else.
@charadeEX
@charadeEX 12 күн бұрын
Absolutely think skill-wise Poirier was the best he'd ever been, but I also thought in the moment watching the fight that he looked older and slower on the feet than I'd ever seen him. Age catches up to everyone, as do the wars they put themselves through, and this was the most banged up version of Poirier we've seen fight to date. He is my #1 favorite fighter, but from the moment that fight got announced, I knew he didn't stand a chance.
@MidgetPunter
@MidgetPunter 12 күн бұрын
You guys know Islam is a striker right? Grappling wasnt his base prior to mma. His grappling was average pre joining the AKA team and khabib.
@timw4432
@timw4432 12 күн бұрын
Plus he had faced the Dagestani style with Khabib so was way more prepared for their how heavy they are on the ground etc
@blarg7239
@blarg7239 12 күн бұрын
5:35 you got slightly mixed up here. Iaquinta couldnt win the title because he weighed in for his non-title fight already at 156. It was Paul Felder that was not allowed a chance to step in on short notice because of his ranking
@MontyElazegui
@MontyElazegui 12 күн бұрын
He actually weighed in at 155.2 which I find it BS that he was made ineligible for being just 0.2 pounds overweight.
@epilog80
@epilog80 11 күн бұрын
@@MontyElazegui if you let someone be 0.2 lbs over, where is the limit? that is the problem and why i believe, likeweise to the UFC, that it should be stern at the limit.
@MontyElazegui
@MontyElazegui 11 күн бұрын
@epilog80 imo they should allow at most 1-2 pounds overweight allowance. 5 pounds overweight is understandable for ineligibility because there that's significantly high and the power advantage goes to him. But 0.2 pounds? That's barely a difference at all.
@platonicbuu7454
@platonicbuu7454 11 күн бұрын
The limit is .5 lol ​@epilog80
@epilog80
@epilog80 11 күн бұрын
@@MontyElazegui They allow 1 pound over for non title fights, which i believe is alright. For title fights they should be more strict as they are. 0.2 pounds does nothing as you said. So why not just cut it? Dedication is required, if one wants to fight for the title they have to be able to make the weight they are competing for. The weight ends on 5, not 6, not 0.5 or anything, 5.
@melinkoly420
@melinkoly420 11 күн бұрын
that title change
@95mcqueen5
@95mcqueen5 11 күн бұрын
Mf thought we wouldn't notice 👀
@sirpout1216
@sirpout1216 11 күн бұрын
Why does it say Moicano, he's fighting Tsuarukun this weekend?
@mohammadnoor2171
@mohammadnoor2171 10 күн бұрын
@@sirpout1216 arman pulled out
@gabrielnavarro749
@gabrielnavarro749 10 күн бұрын
yeah, not cool it makes you believe this is an updated video after Arman pulled out and it is not
@jasonthedrummer
@jasonthedrummer 9 күн бұрын
Arman nor Moicano were the focus of the video. The legacy of breaking the title defense record was. Updated title to reflect that change in opponent is all.
@AdityaRajkumar-m6l
@AdityaRajkumar-m6l 11 күн бұрын
The fact that Benson Henderson dosen't get the recognition he deserves is insane.
@mouthofthesouth99
@mouthofthesouth99 11 күн бұрын
Benson was a monster in WEC, and his run to the UFC title was fantastic. My issue is outside of Frankie 1 and Diaz he arguably lost his other title fights (Melendez and Frankie 2 were questionable). Very talented fighter though and thought he was super entertaining in 3 rounders, but in 5 rounders he fought at a slower, less aggressive style (understandably so).
@slicingonions4398
@slicingonions4398 12 күн бұрын
This isn’t boxing, I refuse to call someone not the best just because they have a loss (or more) .. if we dismiss people like they do in boxing just for having a loss then we get this crap like Tank only accepting fights against scrubs because they don’t want to lose, which mayweather started
@fabiokaya202
@fabiokaya202 11 күн бұрын
Hater
@SkinnyArmsNovak
@SkinnyArmsNovak 11 күн бұрын
Wins and Losses don’t matter nearly as much in MMA as they do in other sports. It is far more important who you fight. We’ve seen several fighter who had double digit losses and went on to be champions. The fact of the matter is MMA was created by a group of professional wrestlers in Japan in the 1980s and has much more in common with worked wrestling bouts being the real alternative to them than it does with boxing which is one of the reasons I don’t think losses matter nearly as much. There’s far too many ways to lose, you could legitimately be the greatest boxer in MMA history and still lose a lot due to other factors of the fight. There’s also several examples of fighters who fought nothing but cans for 20 fights and crumbled against real competition like Dave Herman and Chris Tuchscherer. Chris Tuchscherer in particular went 17-0 as a heavyweight which would be impressive except he got KO’d by Gonzaga(11-4)Brendan Schaub(6-1 failed football player) and Mark Hunt(5-7) Mark Hunt legitimately had more losses than wins when he beat Tuchscherer who was 21-3 at that point. Mark Hunts record didn’t matter because he had already fought and beaten world champion level competition and he handled the fight with the padded record easily. All this is just a long way of saying. Win/Loss records don’t matter in MMA.
@deleqtronica8733
@deleqtronica8733 11 күн бұрын
Tank is going to retire as the best prospect ever.
@michaelmatt9752
@michaelmatt9752 9 күн бұрын
Bro is calling floyd and Davis's opponents scrubs thinking he's disrespecting the 2 lol.
@Drew-dd5nh
@Drew-dd5nh 12 күн бұрын
I get very happy when I see a fresh MMA On Point upload in the AM.
@cristianoglinda1125
@cristianoglinda1125 12 күн бұрын
5:32 Iaquinta made weight (155.2 lbs) for his original fight with Paul Felder, but was ineligible to win the title due to not being at championship weight.
@wuhlfzebayne
@wuhlfzebayne 12 күн бұрын
didn't dana state that it was for the belt regardless of iaquinta's weight.
@1D.JFanMma
@1D.JFanMma 12 күн бұрын
@@wuhlfzebayneyes, Jason is just talking out of his Arse. No excuses of him not taking 1 minute to research it.
@kaic-m2865
@kaic-m2865 12 күн бұрын
dana said he'd consider al the champ but he wouldn't be officially​@@wuhlfzebayne
@Beowulf45
@Beowulf45 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, wasn't there something about Iaquinta's shorts? Like, they weighed the shorts he was wearing to weigh in and determined that they were at the difference in weight? Weird.
@alexjost9890
@alexjost9890 10 күн бұрын
it was also due to him being ranked too low to be eligible
@Doge_-_-111
@Doge_-_-111 12 күн бұрын
Title defenses arent the be all end all for being the goat of a division imo, obviously important but to me level of competition plays a bigger role
@llawliet3733
@llawliet3733 12 күн бұрын
Yeah but technically you get the best Competition if you are the Champ, since they mostly Match top 5 guys against the Champ so you automatically get the Best Dudes
@badprofilepic882
@badprofilepic882 11 күн бұрын
​@@llawliet3733unless you're Jon Jones and you're ducking the interim champ and taking old man stipe to the third round
@llawliet3733
@llawliet3733 11 күн бұрын
@@badprofilepic882 Well exceptions are always there. Hope they make the Aspinal fight soon or at least relinquish the title for Tom to continue his run
@varunanand5440
@varunanand5440 10 күн бұрын
Jason really the best with his calm sense of delivery
@tkondja
@tkondja 12 күн бұрын
Believe it or not, Arman is the most likely lightweight that can defeat Islam, that’s why this is the most important title defense. If Islam wins this convincingly, he can retire or move up to the Welterweight division, there won’t be anything or anyone worthy to fight in the lightweight division anymore unless Ilia Toupuria moves up
@TheJonas973
@TheJonas973 12 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. If Arman can't do it, then I think Islam will stay champ for a while. Would love for him to fight Topuria but I feel like a lot of people would downplay his reign itc saying he defended against smaller guys
@Eggzy-b7f
@Eggzy-b7f 12 күн бұрын
Hes not even that good really
@mohammedoklah6782
@mohammedoklah6782 12 күн бұрын
Islam already said he won’t fight ilia because it won’t do anything for his legacy, if he wins it won’t really make much of a difference since he just beat a guy who was smaller than him in a division below him
@tkondja
@tkondja 12 күн бұрын
@@mohammedoklah6782 then the division is tossed, there is nobody there anymore, the next good guy in the division close to Islam is Arman
@Juel92
@Juel92 11 күн бұрын
I don't think Islam is looking to retire. Dude just seems intent on becoming the goat.
@honeybadger3655
@honeybadger3655 12 күн бұрын
Khabib only had one title fight against a former champ. Islam has 3 title fight wins over current or former champs, I would argue that Islam could be considered the best even before this weekend
@samuel3253
@samuel3253 11 күн бұрын
I don't think defending your title against a featherweight (that actually beat you up badly) should count.
@TowerDoge
@TowerDoge 10 күн бұрын
Video idea: 10 times a last minute change lost them a title. Or some variation of "10 times a last minute change"
@EpicofSomething
@EpicofSomething 12 күн бұрын
If Islam wins on Saturday, he doesn’t just beat the record for consecutive defenses at LW. He also would have the second longest win streak in UFC history at 15. Tied with Kamaru Usman. Putting him 2 wins away from breaking Anderson Silvas none beatin streak that sits at 16. This wouldn’t make him just the LW GOAT but a top 3 all time if he break that record.
@LiimpZ
@LiimpZ 12 күн бұрын
Hyped for this match! I enjoy watching both fighters, and their first bout was super fun to watch!
@algeriasolitaryman3662
@algeriasolitaryman3662 11 күн бұрын
Its hapeen🎉
@MortyEXE-zh9bb
@MortyEXE-zh9bb 11 күн бұрын
The immediate edit of the title 😭
@nolimbsjohnny
@nolimbsjohnny 11 күн бұрын
If islam gets 5 title defenses in the most competetive division of the modern era of UFC, he will be the GOAT of the entire sport with a 16 fight win streak
@ChasingRank
@ChasingRank 11 күн бұрын
And if he moves up and wins there too, Jon Jones will be pissed. He’ll no longer be known as the GOAT.
@LifeOfPablo7
@LifeOfPablo7 11 күн бұрын
Moicano wants MONEY 💰
@luismoreno7631
@luismoreno7631 11 күн бұрын
It's Islam vs AMERICA TOP TEAM (Dustin Poirier, Arman, and now Moicano)
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl
@MichaelSpikes-pv6kl 5 күн бұрын
Excellent video
@eliosborne17
@eliosborne17 12 күн бұрын
Islam is already the lw goat, volk is the fw goat, Charles was looking unstoppable at the time, and Dustin is khabibs BEST win. He’s 3 fights from passing jones imo
@diegocruz4447
@diegocruz4447 11 күн бұрын
Time travel?
@ronanwellecomme7176
@ronanwellecomme7176 11 күн бұрын
What i rlly cant wrap my head around is how the fuck do you get injured that late b4 fighting Imo i think if he was injured fr he already knew but just didnt say anything till the last moment
@azouitinesaad3856
@azouitinesaad3856 10 күн бұрын
"why change the video when you can change the title"
@DrunkenfistTV
@DrunkenfistTV 12 күн бұрын
Retaining the belt =/= defending the belt
@Aryan1509x
@Aryan1509x 10 күн бұрын
5:32 Al Iaquinta wasn't eligible not because he was ranked #11, but because he had weighed in above championship weight for his original bout against Paul Felder.
@Anonmed
@Anonmed 12 күн бұрын
I think Islam is already the greatest LW of all time
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564
@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 12 күн бұрын
Remember when you were shading Islam for "not having fought anyone"? Just 3 short years ago...
@Beowulf45
@Beowulf45 12 күн бұрын
In the past few years, Islam has beaten Dan Hooker, Bobby Green, Charles Oliveira, Alexander Volkanovski (twice), and Dustin Poirier. Of those wins, only one was a decision. Up until that point, he had a few nice wins, but nothing like those more recent fights. I'd say that 3 year period is enough to go from "interesting prospect who has potential" to "is he the GOAT?"
@BillyMillion
@BillyMillion 12 күн бұрын
He hadn’t three years ago… so it was valid then. This is how time works.
@nickgrant2625
@nickgrant2625 12 күн бұрын
@@BillyMillion so true
@matthewm760
@matthewm760 12 күн бұрын
I think hooker green and volk were all short notice just saying. The olivera win is easily his most impressive and actually extremely impressive
@jackquincy6351
@jackquincy6351 12 күн бұрын
Crazy how the passage of time works huh
@Robert399
@Robert399 12 күн бұрын
GOAT isn't about the record number, it's about what you achieved while you were at the top. So yes, if Islam beat Arman, I'd call him the Lightweight GOAT (especially since I consider Oliveira, Volk x2, old Dustin, Arman slightly more impressive than Iaquinta, McGregor, prime Dustin, Gaethje)
@SonnyHorrocks
@SonnyHorrocks 12 күн бұрын
Old Dustin gave it his all until the 5th round and it shown how good Islam’s striking is despite training in Khabib’s gym which is mostly wrestling focused
@NeroFury-wn9jn
@NeroFury-wn9jn 11 күн бұрын
Crazy cuz Arman just pulled out due to injury, and fucced up my parlay 🤧
@AAK-.
@AAK-. 11 күн бұрын
9:50 You guys are a massive channel, so please do your research if you can't remember yourselves. The issue of contention was the reduced time window to rehydrate, not the time of day which they were fighting.
@uafc1
@uafc1 12 күн бұрын
5:05 LOL Dana's face. That scared the shit out of him
@GH-bi2uz
@GH-bi2uz 11 күн бұрын
WAIT!!!??? Did you guys know Mociano was fighting islam now?
@rez1k199
@rez1k199 11 күн бұрын
Yeah wth what is this prediction
@VelReyYT
@VelReyYT 11 күн бұрын
They changed the title from Arman to Moicano
@HouseTre007
@HouseTre007 11 күн бұрын
That one loss is completely irrelevant to me
@JoBlogz
@JoBlogz 11 күн бұрын
Arman and Moicano are same camp. Their team have studied Islam, whereas Islam hasnt studied Moicano. What if it was a bait and switch via Arman;s daddy's money to the ufc??
@sa4rrrrr
@sa4rrrrr 11 күн бұрын
if arman cant beat him, literally no one can
@AM-fs7yh
@AM-fs7yh 12 күн бұрын
A 4th defense is much bigger than a perfect record
@ahmadabdeljabbar8375
@ahmadabdeljabbar8375 12 күн бұрын
Anthony Pettis should have filled in against Khabib instead of Al
@DwayneScott-j5e
@DwayneScott-j5e 11 күн бұрын
Well now Moicano has the chance to do the funniest thing 💀
@javadahmadi392
@javadahmadi392 12 күн бұрын
After the 6 title defense he will be the goat ! 🐐
@stuckinheaven5718
@stuckinheaven5718 11 күн бұрын
Insane timing
@emceesteez1049
@emceesteez1049 11 күн бұрын
Who’s here after the arman news?
@davidmcneejr.977
@davidmcneejr.977 12 күн бұрын
I’m no Islam fan, but when you talk about goats in any sports, it’s based off titles/championships. Nothing else matters.
@user-sw5wn8go3k
@user-sw5wn8go3k 11 күн бұрын
It's based on quality of opponents as well
@GengoSenmon
@GengoSenmon 11 күн бұрын
Whether Arman wins or not this weekend, he will still eventually become the LW champ when Makhachev retires. He is still young with many years of a career ahead of him.
@xcoolthefoolx
@xcoolthefoolx 11 күн бұрын
Let’s go Money Moicano!!!
@drewfromyay882
@drewfromyay882 12 күн бұрын
Iaquinta wasnt eligible to win the title because he didnt make 155 exactly, not because he was ranked 11th.
@alexsanchez-pf3ec
@alexsanchez-pf3ec 12 күн бұрын
great vid, sometimes prefer these analysis to the lists lowkey, the thoroughness is fantastic
@joshuabollenhagen4220
@joshuabollenhagen4220 12 күн бұрын
2 of his title defences were against a 145er. Arguably lost the 1st. 2nd he rolled off the couch to save a card. Cant crow about his title defences
@user-sw5wn8go3k
@user-sw5wn8go3k 11 күн бұрын
You guys need to stop with this nonsense. He was 4-0ing Volk until the last round. He didn't arguably lose, he definitely won and anyone denying that is biased.
@gamer8622
@gamer8622 12 күн бұрын
I truly dont under the I.V controversy. Its INSANEEEE that ALL fighters arent immediately given adequate fluids via i.v post weigh in. It does nothing but keep these men and women healthier in a dangerous sport. The fact its banned its crazy. Its should be sanctioned by the UFC
@escape2nirvana
@escape2nirvana 12 күн бұрын
If you’re losing weight to the point you need an iv to recover you probably shouldn’t be fighting in that weight class just saying
@alexisgallion
@alexisgallion 10 күн бұрын
IVs can be used to hide PEDs its especially concerning when the guy in question has popped
@Quiron1985
@Quiron1985 12 күн бұрын
If Islam wins, Khabib will declare Islam the greatest lightweight. No more speculating.
@muamerblazevic1837
@muamerblazevic1837 10 күн бұрын
DJ Cruz Aldo GSP Anderson Jones. Only the lightweights and the heavyweights have very few defenses. And what's funny is that they're the only divisions where the name describes the weight. Light and heavy. Fun observations I guess. But I think Habib would be the champion to this day had he not retired.
@Khedran
@Khedran 12 күн бұрын
@09:32 Um, Islam's manager had tweeted justifying the use of the IV based on it being a limited amount, which was wrong
@Incieal
@Incieal 12 күн бұрын
Ali wasn't even there, besides that the story about the nurse changed multiple times within the Volk team and no evidence was produced, then USADA made a statement clearing Islam.
@NZSamMan
@NZSamMan 12 күн бұрын
Islam is already the greatest lightweight
@jessewise6449
@jessewise6449 11 күн бұрын
This is a great video, good layout and facts from all sides
@arin8522
@arin8522 11 күн бұрын
Did he know?
@SenorGassen
@SenorGassen 11 күн бұрын
He needs a couple to a few more before he overtakes Khabib. Khabib looked indestructible. Islam has looked human. Including against a much smaller opponent. I think he’s got the ability to become the lightweight goat, but I think he’s got some work to do to get there.
@IrishClone
@IrishClone 12 күн бұрын
I don't think Islam enters the GOAT discussion this weekend unless it's an absolutely dominant victory. However, if he wins this weekend and defends again, especially in convincing fashion, he should be in that conversation for sure
@aymen.el.abed.01
@aymen.el.abed.01 12 күн бұрын
And Still 🏆💪
@nilesrodriguez4343
@nilesrodriguez4343 11 күн бұрын
This fight means nothing now 🤷‍♂️
@Nastroconstruction
@Nastroconstruction 11 күн бұрын
Why are we considering winning the title a defense? The way I understand it is a defense is only when you are coming into the fight as the champion.
@MunchFaceBro
@MunchFaceBro 12 күн бұрын
Islam beat one single top 10 fighter and the guy took it on short notice, then he beat an unranked guy who took it on short notice, then he called out a fighter and when he was offered it he turned his own call out down, and they gave him a title shot. Then defended against a featherweight and lost 2 rounds. Then defended against a featherweight who took it on short notice. Then lost 2 rounds to a guy who was talking about retirement. Now he's going to defend against a guy he already beat (because that guy took it on short notice). Not to mention meldonium and illegal IVs. Khabib beat RDA, Johnson, Barboza, Conor, Dustin, and Justin in their primes with full camps and lost 2 rounds in his whole career.
@ItschaboiJeffaLeeon
@ItschaboiJeffaLeeon 11 күн бұрын
😂 at what point do you speak of $ moicano ?????
@soulsiphoner572
@soulsiphoner572 12 күн бұрын
If wikipedia is to be trusted, a draw results in a title "retention," not a title defense. So I believe that means Frankie only defended twice. Still a legend don't mean to disrespect, just stating a dumb technicality.
@smoketwo818
@smoketwo818 10 күн бұрын
Khabib for Al all over again. Making it seem like the other guy got a shot when in reality they're absolutely outclassed
@IC4NTSEEU
@IC4NTSEEU 11 күн бұрын
I love how since Arman pulled this fight garnered double the attention😂
@tomazrodrigues7006
@tomazrodrigues7006 12 күн бұрын
Something interesting to think about is that Islam and Khabib have definitely thrown down for at least some hard sparring behind closed doors. This could be the greatest lightweight matchup of all time and the outcome will never be known to the public
@TheJonas973
@TheJonas973 12 күн бұрын
Agreed, its almost a shame really. Probably one of, if not the greatest fight we'll never see.
@BigSteve9713
@BigSteve9713 11 күн бұрын
I STILL think they should've just rebooked Islam v Arman and let Moicano fight in his previously scheduled matchup.
@rainharrison7735
@rainharrison7735 11 күн бұрын
Then who would headline the event??
@BigSteve9713
@BigSteve9713 11 күн бұрын
@rainharrison7735 isn't there some other title fight going on tomorrow night down at BW???? We could elevate Umar up
@CarlWidegrip
@CarlWidegrip 11 күн бұрын
@@BigSteve9713that would be bad business for the UFC. They negotiated a two champ card with the venue, and sold that to the fans. Removing the main attraction would piss a lot of customers off. It’s a reputation thing.
@azouitinesaad3856
@azouitinesaad3856 10 күн бұрын
light weight is so stacked simply because most people fall into that height and weight so statistically its gonna have more good fighters in it because there is a bigger pool to draw from.
@SarkkiKarkki
@SarkkiKarkki 12 күн бұрын
I thought a draw was recorded as retaining rather than defending.
@dismalseepage1574
@dismalseepage1574 12 күн бұрын
It's ridiculous to say Islam beating Arman doesn't make him the LW goat
@iamkarlkneeland4225
@iamkarlkneeland4225 12 күн бұрын
You're probably 12 and know nothing about MMA stfu 😂😂😂 Greatest of all time? No, just became champion while literally every other contender is on the tail end of their careers. All old men, he's not even top 25 all time at 155.
@PYRO_FPS
@PYRO_FPS 12 күн бұрын
@@iamkarlkneeland4225Islam is the LW GOAT already and youre actually delusional if u think he isnt
@calebrollins1120
@calebrollins1120 12 күн бұрын
2 defenses against a featherweight regardless of how i feel about the first volk result dont really stack up imo. I think he'd need at least one after Arman unless its a pretty special performance
@fedsmoker7714
@fedsmoker7714 12 күн бұрын
Love this channel
@zartic4life
@zartic4life 12 күн бұрын
The way Khabib dominated compared to Islam he's going to need another two title defenses to make up for it and then sure I'll give it to him. I still think Khabib beats Islam most days.
@josip342
@josip342 12 күн бұрын
Who is even the next one in line? I feel like the lightweight is kinda stagnant lately
@nolimbsjohnny
@nolimbsjohnny 11 күн бұрын
If Islam isnt currently the LW goat, who is? The quality of opponents Islam beat is much higher than any other LW
@nolimbsjohnny
@nolimbsjohnny 11 күн бұрын
Also, his 14 fight win streak is more impressive than Khabib's undefeated record
@myanch200
@myanch200 11 күн бұрын
I think for Islam is way more difficult, because now everyone is more familiar with their gameplan everyone in the UFC acknowledged the fact that without wrestling, grapling and takedown defence they wont reach far. And I think the skills set that fighters have has changed dramatically.
@Bobby.B619
@Bobby.B619 11 күн бұрын
So you just changed the title of the original video that talked about Arman to Moicano. Lmao 🤣 wtf that’s a completely different fight and topic all together
@CarlWidegrip
@CarlWidegrip 11 күн бұрын
Not really. If you watch the video, they’re only talking about the lw division, Islam and his legacy.
@Bobby.B619
@Bobby.B619 10 күн бұрын
@@CarlWidegrip Bruh half the video theyre talking about Arman ....what do you mean not really?
@CarlWidegrip
@CarlWidegrip 10 күн бұрын
@@Bobby.B619 No, they’re not. Idk what to tell you.
@benlumisnz
@benlumisnz 11 күн бұрын
How did you predict moicano vs Islam?
@erikk7643
@erikk7643 12 күн бұрын
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I sill feel BJ Penn is still the lw goat. Maybe Islam takes that title if he wins. Which I think he will
@jfethier5604
@jfethier5604 12 күн бұрын
2 wins against the welterweight champion for Penn
@SarkkiKarkki
@SarkkiKarkki 12 күн бұрын
The argument for Penn is the most fun argument one can make for any of these discussions, how good they looked at their best? Penn was incredibly dominant when he was at his best.
@2piecenobisuit763
@2piecenobisuit763 11 күн бұрын
did mma on point know arman was pulling out ???
@ryanok1757
@ryanok1757 11 күн бұрын
No they just edited the title😂😂😂😂
@dasnutnock6408
@dasnutnock6408 12 күн бұрын
I know it’s hypothetical and we’d never have seen them face off, but I do wonder who’d win out of Islam & Khabib. Who you got?
@Randomthing1973
@Randomthing1973 12 күн бұрын
Khabib has a much stronger mentality than Islam, while Islam has better technique. Khabib has more dominant and aggressive style, while Islam is more balanced and more calculated. I also think that Khabib has better ground game, while Islam is the better wrestler. The thing is that Khabib wouldn't be able to bully Islam because he is both a wrestler and a striker, something that Khabib truly lack. In the stand up Islam would have many advantages, but Khabib is still a brick and doesn't get too much hurt. I do think that Islam would win this, when both in their primes. Khabib's style would just shut down.
@perry3770
@perry3770 12 күн бұрын
Not worried about Islam losing at all since he already looked good beating Arman in all 3 rounds in the first fight.
@SiyabongaCity
@SiyabongaCity 11 күн бұрын
Dude had me thinking Arman pulled out...i was like how the hell Moicano the replacement🤔🤔🙄🙄😅😅😅😅
@CarlWidegrip
@CarlWidegrip 11 күн бұрын
He did hehe
@SiyabongaCity
@SiyabongaCity 11 күн бұрын
@CarlWidegrip this has been one confusing day🤣😂🤣but tbh I don't think Maicano should be fighting for the strap(he on a roll i know)... whatcha ya thinking??
@CarlWidegrip
@CarlWidegrip 11 күн бұрын
@@SiyabongaCity I get it. I was confused rolling out of bed, too. No one is claiming that Moicano is the deserving contender or anything, but he was already there, is ranked, and made championship weight (155, not over). Plus like you said, he’s on a good streak right now and is quite popular, which is good for the UFC because they need to be able to market it. I think it’s the best solution possible given the tight time frame. Don’t think Money will win this, but hey, let’s hope it’s a fun fight.
@SiyabongaCity
@SiyabongaCity 11 күн бұрын
@CarlWidegrip yeah one thing about Moicano he can scrap...but i can't help bieng disappointed by Arman pulling out... that was a possible fight of the year contender
@nyphon
@nyphon 12 күн бұрын
when islam has 2 defenses against a 145er.. one on short notice.. his defenses against 155ers is at 1... he has 2 wins against top 5 155ers.. 3/4 against top 10 155ers... anyone talking about potential 155 goat status is missing a lot of context edit: and now facing a barely top 10 moicano on short notice..
@mouthofthesouth99
@mouthofthesouth99 11 күн бұрын
I don’t believe Islam is the best ever at 155, and whilst resume is very important, we can’t ignore how badly Islam was ducked by the top 10. His win against Oliveira alone showed how great he is, and Volk wins despite the size and short notice of second fight were still very good wins. I think a win against Arman could have very well put his name in the 155 goat conversation. Unfortunately it’s now Moicano next (who is good and I like him) but he is not an elite fighter in my eyes. Based on skill set Khabib, Islam and BJ are the top 3 for me but there are a lot of beasts at 155 past and present.
@nyphon
@nyphon 11 күн бұрын
@@mouthofthesouth99 idk if i would say he was ducked, 155 is just stacked and breaking into the top 10, let alone top 5 is mostly earned through a series of increasing wins. islams might have needed an extra fight or two more than others, but nothing egregious like belal
@mouthofthesouth99
@mouthofthesouth99 11 күн бұрын
@ Chandler openly ducked him in my eyes. Although I think Chandler would have a punchers chance (he does against anyone before his low IQ kicks in). 155 is certainly stacked though.
@mothman56
@mothman56 10 күн бұрын
Y’all really just updated the title for clicks and left the video the same 🤡
@MMAOnPoint
@MMAOnPoint 9 күн бұрын
Title was just to reflect the opponent change. Point of the video was always about the title defense record.
@silent_wings
@silent_wings 10 күн бұрын
Add to Khabib's legacy he has lost only a couple of rounds or so as per records which is crazy to even achieve even in the future I think!
@difdaf436
@difdaf436 12 күн бұрын
Hang on.. I’m Australian.. Islam fighting on American time doesn’t mean they fought early in the morning… Saturday night in America is Sunday afternoon here.. main events are usually about 2pm… I’m confused about that one…
@Gregman2274
@Gregman2274 11 күн бұрын
Khabib would’ve still been defending to this day
@oliverqueen6495
@oliverqueen6495 12 күн бұрын
Islam Makhachev might also become the first person since Eddie Alvarez to lose the LW belt in a fight - Arman becoming the first since McGregor to win the belt from the champion
@JokersVsZombies
@JokersVsZombies 10 күн бұрын
LETS GO 💰 Changing the title of the video like that is a little dirty.
@blizzyhan
@blizzyhan 11 күн бұрын
Charles is my goat. His resume in the ufc is more impressive than khabib He also didn’t miss weight. Controversial weigh in
@juicymilk69
@juicymilk69 11 күн бұрын
Based take
@colinsmith929
@colinsmith929 10 күн бұрын
I 100% disagree a flawless record is relevant. Can crushing and early retirements is the only thing that will come out of that perception. Its about who you fight and how long you're putting away the greatest of the sport. Like if Khabib kept fighting and he went on to a massive skid of like 5 loses in a row, I think it would be silly for anyone that puts him up as their goat to tear him down. He did the thing that made him their goat to them already. EDIT: If anything to me a flawless record should be a detriment to a GOAT discussion. Because it means this fighter never had to overcome the mental of a real loss and come back to achieve even more. That is mental fortitude.
@ynotefil
@ynotefil 11 күн бұрын
MMA Right On Point 💯
@Rocko_lampone
@Rocko_lampone 11 күн бұрын
Moicano wants money
@Fried-MMA
@Fried-MMA 11 күн бұрын
Def the goat of lightweight but time nobody touches Bones , GSP n Demetrius Johnson
@BillyTheKidder
@BillyTheKidder 11 күн бұрын
Oh you got me good… I thought this video would have something to do with Moicano. Fair play..
@michael43567
@michael43567 11 күн бұрын
so glad they did the 2nd Islam Volk fight. Was tired of the excuses people were making for Volk
@royaltimes410
@royaltimes410 12 күн бұрын
Olivera should be in the discusion, I know 1 fight was weight missed, but the scale messed it up tho...
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