Why isn't SANDA more popular?

[@tjsho417]

My opinion: Sanda should NOT be in the Olympics. When TKD and Judo became Olympic sports, it started to get wayyy watered down. I see that happening with any full contact sport that joins the Olympics. Also I think there are some Sanda pro leagues that do allow elbows and knees.

[@user-vy2iz8cw8c]

Which pro leagues allow elbows?

[@tjsho417]

@@user-vy2iz8cw8c I don’t know, I’m just going by the Wiki. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanda_(sport)

[@user-vy2iz8cw8c]

@@tjsho417 Personally I've yet to see a single sanda competition apart from an experimental tournament in 1988 that allows elbows and isn't set up as a hybrid competition format (e.g. sanda vs muay Thai)

[@tjsho417]

@@user-vy2iz8cw8c which seems so arbitrary to me. A good solid roundhouse kick to the head has more concussive force than an elbow. In any case, at my Sanda club we do study knees and elbows and incorporate both into our sparring.

[@user-vy2iz8cw8c]

@@tjsho417 Main concern with elbows is cuts I think, hence why they are/were excluded in kickboxing and Pride (which allowed soccer kicks and head stomps lol).

[@sebastiangaravaglia2608]

One of my favorite UFC fighters of all time who was also the only Sanda expert during his era was Cung Le. People were so excited when he would fight because he was one of the few true super kickers in MMA.

[@HeavenzFall]

Zabit Magomedsharipov also had a background in Sanda. Great athletes coming out of this sport.

[@Sm0keSh0w]

His super kicks come from his tae kwan do background

[@joltex-1148]

Sanda Tian Xia (Professional Sanda ) allows the knees. The bouts are held in a boxing rings however the trade off of the knees is the lesser use of throws as they focus on kneeing each other in a clinch.

[@markmessi9020]

The Sanda sidekick is so good in an MMA context, especially if you have a boxing base. I noticed it's way easier to side kick vs teep kicking my opponent's mid section consistently. It's just harder to get a single off a side kick vs a caught teep in my personal experience.

[@moustachio334]

The teep works quicker than a side kick and the side teep trumps all. I love sidekicks but I rarely ever use them and when I do, it's in sparring.

[@meginna8354]

It's just a sidekick.

[@jackslater5886]

I found the sidekick very effective when I went to a dutch kickboxing class, they never really used it themselves and were never expecting it

[@AzFarhad]

@@jackslater5886 that’s exactly what I do in my kickboxing class and they have no idea how to block it. I use boxing stance with side kicks it works beautifully.

[@TheRealNickG]

@@jackslater5886 This guy gets it! 👍

[@cyc20976]

Sanda and Sanshou have proven that chinese kungfu if tuned for MMA can compete in Mixed Martial Art competition like UFC. Fighters like Zhang Weili, Li Jingliang, Song Yadong, Yao Xiaonan, have proven it.

[@AzFarhad]

There’s pretty much no Kung Fu in Sanda. It’s low level kickboxing + throws.

[@cyc20976]

@@AzFarhad What do you mean there is no Kung Fu in Sanda? Sanda is the MMA of Kung Fu, a mix and match of everything of Kung Fu that works for modern MMA. Incorporating chinese wrestling Shuai Jiao and shoulin grappling techniques called Qinna. Also chinese kungfu have kicks, boxing and throwing techniques aswell.

[@iROChakri]

@@cyc20976 Except, Sanda has 0% Kung fu, if anything, its just a modern Kickboxing like Muay thai/Kickboxing Tell me if Sandal looks like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ_NlZWlfc2FgNk ... or this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSrYXuahMmajtk

[@cyc20976]

​@@iROChakri You forget that Muay Thai has its origins in China. A chinese Monk named Phor Than Mar, developed Muay Chaiya the predecessor that evolved into current day Muay Thai. So Kung Fu had early kickboxing features. And Shoaling Kung Fu literally has loads of punching and kicking techniques. There is a chinese saying: All asian Martial Arts originated at Shoulin, there is a reason for that saying, because if you track down the roots of all asian martial arts, even the Japanese Karate, it alll goes back to Shoulin Kungfu.

[@iROChakri]

@@cyc20976 Dont worry. Since Muay thai is the best stand up style today. Everyone claims it. China wants Muay thai. India wants Muay thai. Cambodia wants Muay thai. Even Burma and Laos too want Muay thai. Yet there is only one truth. Actually, raw Muay Thai came from Africa. The Africans taught it to the Indians and the Indians taught it to the Chinese ie Kung fu. So the origin of Muay thai is from Africa, and the Thais refined it to become the best style, which in return, taught it back to the Chinese ie Sanda.

[@princesarma9273]

I think Sanda's rules are perfect to test one's martial arts skills for the streets. No time to phuck around or keep trying different things. Either you do it correctly or loose.

[@markhoffman7085]

Regarding those who say that their kung fu is too deadly for sparring: if you can't hit me with a jab, then you can't hit me with an eye gouge or rake. Pretty elementary blackboard concept, but some people still seem to think that there is something magical about their kung fu hands.

[@huahua608]

Sanda in China was extremely popular in the late 90s and early 2000s, Televised professional sanda league viewership even surpassed China League One Football, Now it's basicly dead due to corruption and embezzlement, modern sanda is mainly practiced in Sport University for national competitions like any other state sponsored sports.

[@kimo5509]

I live in China, Tomorrow I’m having my first sanda trial. As far as I see people here tend to practice Muay Thai but I found this one gym that offers sanda so let’s see

[@hungniirulfur920]

You fogot that Sanda also teaches elbows and knees But elbows are not used in amateur sanda But elbows are used in pro sanda. Plus you dont see many elbows in Sanda because of takedowns and throws

[@olarashad8189]

How many types of sanda are there ?

[@hungniirulfur920]

@@olarashad8189 sports amateur and pro Sanda, Junshi Sanda, Shaolin sanda. Pick your poison mate

[@olarashad8189]

Sorry but can you explain briefly the difference between each one .. and which one is the one that has elbows and knees within it

[@hungniirulfur920]

@@olarashad8189 amateur sanda has knees. Pro Sanda has knees and elbows. Then you Have shaolin Sanda that is basically Just military Sanda

[@littlestoneliontraditional9838]

I hope CMA is never in the Olympics. The Olympics have damaged to many other arts and their communities.

[@MattBrooks-Green]

I'm not really fussed whether it's in the Olympics or not but there is definitely an argument that the CMA community would benefit from more sparring and friendly competition. Without sparring experience a student might not gain the best insight into the difficulties of applying techniques or learning about distancing and timing which are essential in any fight

[@littlestoneliontraditional9838]

I agree with that. Imo the CMA NEEDS to spar more on avarage just not in the Olympics. For example in the US we would benefit from more chances to compete in sanda as well as full contact lei tai for those interested. Further I would love to see more interdisciplinary sparing. All three are highly beneficial.

[@MattBrooks-Green]

@@littlestoneliontraditional9838 Totally. It's worth also saying that a lot of people who train CMA aren't interested in sparring at all and for them I think it's totally fine if they just enjoy the forms and learning about Chinese culture. It's good exercise. It's an interesting question about how we find that balance as a community without being completely one side or the other

[@888kratos888]

i cant imagine a 3 minute round.haha . the 2 minutes make sure that there is constant action and it is 2 minutes of continuous action, meaning the timer gets stopped when there is a throw or off the lai tai . ... also , i did see some pro sanda in china , where knees and elbows were allowed , but i am not sure which league it was . by the way , cool video .

[@MattBrooks-Green]

Thanks chap. I know what you mean but sometimes 2 minutes feels too short to really get a feel of an opponent. It makes sense if a fighter fights multiple times a day which is probably a huge factor as to why the fights are so short.

[@wl7291]

The celebrity in it isn't there yet. Karate had/has the US, a bunch of celebrities and hollywood, and PKA, then Lyoto Machida going on a run in the UFC as a very visible karateka. Muay Thai has Tony Jaa, Buakaw, Saenchai, Samart, Sagat. K1 brought MT further west. Then Brazilian fighters pushed bjj and MT into mma by whooping everyone's asses with them, so then those explode. TKD has most of the karate bump, but the child care/after school activity and low equipment cost makes it more appealing to parents. In Houston suburbs I can pass by 3-5 different TKD gyms of varying names in a 20 minute drive from my house.

[@scluciano]

As a black belt in taekwondo I can affirm, taekwondo is good as a sport to get in shape , create good cardio, if you are young you can increase your mobility and flexibility, you will learn to defende yourself from untrained, but if you want to fight experience fighters you have to choose well your gym.

[@Malaestro]

Wow, I follow your other channel too. I’m a fellow language student who just had his first Sanda competition a week ago.

[@calidag]

It was super popular in Russia, particularly in Dagestan, where I'm from.

[@Zen-ep6mc]

muslim the sanda king.

[@damianloder6080]

Hi Matt, this video came up on my feed. I am very familiar with your language channel, but got quite a shock to find out you have another channel.

[@sebozz2046]

I lived in Egypt where it Sanda was popular, at the time i was a teenager and wanted to do Kung-fu but i was thinking of the Kung-Fu of movies with animal forms, so when they put me in Sanda i was thinking that they were making fun of me, i thought it was boxing and not Kung-fu so i left. Now i realise my error it is an very effective art hard to find-

[@jmgonzales7701]

who brought sanda to egypt?

[@whhhhhhhhh]

​@@jmgonzales7701someone

[@epics306]

​@jmgonzales7701 it us really popular in Egypt, sanda and kickboxing schools are kinda spreading out there, mma is still small there tho ,

[@jackslater5886]

I think sanda is a great sport to watch. The trouble is boxing and MMA already have quite a stranglehold on combat sports in the west and Muay Thai/Kickboxing is quite popular too so there isn't much room in the market. Also coming from China, it wasn't as freely accessible to western audiences.

[@scluciano]

Yes, where I live, every art that came from china is classified as bullshido, the soft guys from Tai Chi will and Wing Chun will not like the Sanda training, and the real tuff guys are in Jiu Jitsu , Wrestling and Muay Thai.

[@vadimbobov4051]

Honestly i think its just better for sanda practitioners to train for mma or MT/ kickboxing and fight in those sports we already gave seen fighters like Zabit or Zhang Weili make sanda known in the ufc if more athletes use it the more popular it will become

[@iROChakri]

​​@@scluciano Because traditional Kung fu is bullshitdo. Praying mantis? Tiger claw? Frog stance? Fck lol. Sanda is just a repackaged chinese version of muay thai eith some wrestling throws. Where are any famous kung fu techniques mentioned above in Sanda? Zero.

[@scluciano]

@@iROChakri The wrost part is that all kung fu praticioners are delusional,they believe they can beat every martial art.

[@mpforeverunlimited]

Where do you even train sanda? Even within china, Ive heard it's only trained at a handful of sports universities

[@Tom-PlaylistKing-Smith]

Before Sanda, the Olympics will have Pankration.

[@camrendavis6650]

should have been had Pankration

[@mba321]

The real Pankration as practiced in Ancient Greece, or today's "safe space MMA", as Ramsey Dewey says? The former has no chance, the latter does have a chance, but it's still quite a small one.

[@gabbar51ngh]

There's no way to know how pankration was. Modern day pankration is developed by getting kickboxers and martial artists from other disciplines.

[@DarkLight-dd4nc]

In our mma club there have some sanda guy…I think if sanda have also elbow and knee this art can be a good stand up base for people who train mma (and normally training Muay Thai for the stand up part )

[@hannibalscipio10]

I think the main issue in terms of popularity is that it's just not very exciting. It's basically continuous point sparring. No one is getting knocked out or submitted, and the matches are often decided by a high volume of little dumps. Continuous sparring is helpful, and is enjoyable to watch for martial artists, but it needs more spice to attract a more general audience. I think Matt is right in saying that a 4-second clinch would be better. Being able to strike on the ground, or strike more powerfully generally, would also attract a wider audience. Perhaps Karate Combat is a good model in that regard?

[@Kcrunchymunch]

It’s really dangerous to even spar in practice, many injuries and lasting permanent injuries. It’s such a dangerous activity.

[@fengpo]

Sanda/San Shou was a demonstration Sport in The Olympic Games in Beijing in 2008. It sadly failed to gain recognition, due to not enough female competitors competing, at World level.

[@benconforzi5696]

Isn't Sanda more or less kick boxing with some take downs, thrown in. Like how many ways can you punch, kick and grapple someone to the ground.

[@lelionnoir4523]

Hey Matt, just took up sanda, to get some fighting in. I'll tell you how I fare once I get a few months behind me.

[@MattBrooks-Green]

Awesome. Haven't checked here in a while 😅. Hope it's going well man! I think the forms have more of a sense of purpose with sparring experience. I think you can see those who wave their arms about compared with those who are used to working with an opponent

[@lelionnoir4523]

@@MattBrooks-Green And a few months have gone since I started and I'm happy to have uncompliant partners, especially the kind that are undaunted and happily punch my arrogant nose. That being said, I'm thinking of switching to MMA, in a not so far future, as I feel the rules are a bit restrictive for a proper use of my Xingyi training. How does it feel, trying to get some White Crane applied on the mats, Matt ? 😉

[@MattBrooks-Green]

@@lelionnoir4523 Yeah, being broken up quickly in grappling can be problematic. White crane stuff works well - the use of gloves can aid the hooking techniques and sticking to someones guard to then create an opening works very well. I mix it up with some of the dog boxing stand up which can be at a longer range. Enjoy the MMA!

[@mariano.campos]

in sanda we practice entire rounds doing only grappling, 2 o 3 minutes long. Its Shuai jiao with gloves.

[@artisticsolarninja]

mma, bjj and muay thai or kyokushin are not allowed because it very full contact and extremely dangerous like the national surviving combat sport muay thai for example. they would plan to introduce and putting muay thay in the olympics in 2024 but they might tone down the knees, elbows strikes and clinch fighting close grapplin range. it's going to be a standard american kickboxing.

[@artisticsolarninja]

ramsey dewey even made a video about his thoughts on muay thai going to be in the olympics and then he disagree and so do i. i really don't want that to happen. don't care if its going to be in the olympics because it is very dangerous sport. it's bloody and it could penetrate the body protection

[@iROChakri]

Idk why would they put Muay thai in Olympics. Muay thai already gave birth to today Kickboxing after Changpuek Kietsongrit (Muay thai) beat Rick Roufus (American kickboxing) and changed the whole game of combative sport forever. Muay thai without knees and elbows is just basically Kickboxing lol

[@OhGeeGanksta]

Lack of strong fighters in the UFC or ONE representing Sanda. Same reason why Dutch Kickboxing isn't as popular as traditional kickboxing.

[@brianvesta]

​@Muay_Thai1930Interesting what you say about Dutch kickboxing...In the UK heavyweight Muay Thai fighters where encouraged to visit Holland rather than Thailand to train and spar with more physically larger fights than you get in Thailand also Holland is cheaper and more easier to visit than Thailand....

[@Fury851]

I done sanda in 2018. The class was advertised to learn kicks punches throws and trips. But in reality we just done some kicks and punches and routines. There was nothing else. I left after 6 months

[@ericgirard-realtor9813]

It's more like grappling than kickboxing so mma fighters rather do muay thai to improve just their striking skills imo

[@Blad3r_03]

great video

[@TheMylittletony]

Sanda and Muay Thai both have things the other lack. Muay Thai's throws are severely limited, not allowing things like hip and shoulder throws, and judo-style foot sweeps (yes, MT allows sweeps but only with the front of the leg). Sanda lacks the complicated clinch/knee/elbow game though.

[@theawesomest2850]

Lol probably would make the sanda take downs more risky if they allowed knees

[@SamyarM]

Bro I'm a wushu student and I can confirm that we wushu athlete learn and use knees too

[@BogalaSawundiris]

A Street fight ALMOST NEVER goes beyond 2 minutes. All of that feeling out and jabbing stuff NEVER HAPPENS in a Street Fight ! SANDA'S VALUE LIES IN IT'S NATURE OF BEING SIMILAR TO A STREET FIGHT WHERE THERE IS NO FEELING OUT AND EVERYTHING IS HIGH PACE AND FAST !

[@oliviagraham9798]

Hey.. are you still around?

[@MattBrooks-Green]

Yes! Moved house and need to get back to making videos! Got a couple more in the pipeline though 😀

[@oliviagraham9798]

@@MattBrooks-Green I completely understand. Just know you are a great motivador! And, have awesome insight. Looking forward to more!

[@giuseppeapollonio5730]

sanda is one of the coolest martial arts I have ever seen

[@markcorrigan3930]

aren´t kickboxing rounds 2 min too? And boxing 3 min

[@ANTONtheANTON]

I always thought the should allow 10 seconds for the grappling and wear puffy MMA sparring gloves. Also 2 minutes 30 seconds would be interesting and different than other sports. Also knees to the body lol

[@richardtodd6559]

Because it’s a late bloomer…trying to compete with established sports arts…and it’s still mostly a Chinese sport…Olympics already overloaded with martial arts…and sports like Thai boxing are huge all over…taekwondo same

[@anthonyelbitar1396]

I think the small time to take the the takedown is something very good because it is more challenging for the fighters and ghis is what train them to become better at takedowns

[@Dan0rioN]

Wait wtf why would they not use elbows?

[@bongdonkey]

Sanda is the reason Cung Li was so exciting to watch, when he fought in UFC. Cung had devastating burst of techniques. Which is from Sanda. I.M.O.

[@atshabal]

Pryor to Sanda he had a strong experience in Taekwondo.

[@Reflekt13]

Miyagi say: show me Sanda floor

[@iransoldier1514]

I watched a WWC match and the dude just kept throwing him every two seconds after the other guy threw a single punch

[@mizukarate]

Better not to become an Olympic event. It ruins the arts.

[@MarioUcomics]

Now do why Shuai Jiao isn’t popular

[@Packetking87]

BJJ is not listed in the 2024 Olympics

[@Greenite]

Because they started/advertised as kung fu sparring but there is zero Chinese technique.

[@deanjones4480]

I agree about the grapple time limit. but those 2 minutes depending on what weight class your in are crazy. I fought at 165 and its was just Go! Go! Go!. You show inactivity and you get the old hitchhikers thum from the reff.😅 I say 3 max. And get rid of the 8 point spread. If the fighter capable of defending themselves. Let them have a chance fore a comeback or atleast get the experience.

[@descendancedenoefilsdadam1028]

This is just another Kickboxing style it is not even Kung-fu. It is enough that it can still exist apart some throws it is not that far than a repackaged Kickboxing style.

[@mizukarate]

Any Sanda schools in NYC?

[@amartyadasgupta193]

We get 3 seconds not 2 seconds to grapple

[@BogalaSawundiris]

Since when ?

[@MbisonBalrog]

Sanda/sanshou is not a separate art or sport. It is how you say "sparring" in chinese. Like randori is for Judo, or kumite for karate.

[@bw5020]

But it is tho

[@Zack1440]

👍🏽

[@stefanonecchi-ghiri8456]

I train sanda kickboxing and hung gar kung fu it's fun

[@scsarmiento9423]

ADOPTION OF WESTERN BOXING TECHNIQUES. AS INDEED, WESTERN BOXING IS MORE EFFECTIVE.

[@quadroff3033]

2:06 ayooo 📸

[@trevor75203]

Japan has shootboxing which looks very similar

[@Lakas78]

zhang weili proving its effectiveness in wmma

[@PasangTamang-iu2wh]

Good

[@brewberry3894]

I'd rather watch a fight with throws and sweeps than people rolling on the ground the whole time. Not that submission wrestling isn't effective, its just not entertaining to watch in my opinion.

[@pedromagalhaes4797]

Sanda rounds are long. The clock is allways stopping, easly can be 5 minutes

[@Gamedrawer14567]

Zabit magomedsharipov that guy was coming from Sanda

[@B..B.]

Everyone calling sanda a Muay Thai variation and that Muay thai is the best...ring fighter are arrogant. Most of those are not even high level and think of themselves as the peak specimen of muay thai...yet out of the ring a lot of muay thai will not help, moving forward against only one opponent. Not even the elite ufc fighters get easy on this. Sports do great in the ring within the rules.

[@lusteraliaszero]

why in the world would sanda be in the olympics when kickboxing isn't? or pancration for that matter. really stupid thing to even float imo, muay thai is a better shout too, even sambo is bigger and more distinct. and I say that as someone that really likes sanda

[@lusteraliaszero]

the more I think about it the more it seems that sanda is so far back in the queue, kudo would be a better shout too

[@brianvesta]

Shoot Boxing looks very similar to Sanda....

[@theoneaboveall7708]

Because u can neutralize the strikes by pushing people out of the ring 😂

[@roykhoueiry909]

I am a13 year sanda player and my coach usualy tells me that you have 4 seconds of grapling unless your just using it to catch a breath, that also goes to the point that you said each should be 3 min, most sanda players have good stamina so it is possible. But i think it removes the fun of the sport because its so you keep on trying to get points in a short time so your only option is to attack ro counter in a quick and smart way but if the time is streched there will be no reason to rush and your iq which is a big factor in the game.

[@moustachio334]

This was my impression of Sanda: the fighters mostly lack body conditioning. I've seen alot of body KO's even with pads. I don't want to bring them down, but their ability to take strikes is horrible in comparison to Muay Thai. It's easy to see why that is the case. From training videos I've seen, they're always using pads. You gotta drop the body protection and develop the ability to take heavy shots. I would love to watch a tournament of Sanda vs Muay with the ruleset favoring Sanda for three fights and the other three favoring Muay Thai. This will never happen though because Sanda was formed by the communist party to bring fighting back into Chinese culture. The communists would never let their sport get embarrassed, but it should if they actually want to improve it. The same thing is happening in Cambodia right now where I live and Kun Khmer. They're in denial.

[@KenshinBattousai-yv7pe]

on youtube there are several sanda fights fighting with the muay thai ones the muay thai fighters are shot down by the sanda fighters

[@B..B.]

I don't know about lacking in condition. I fought in sanda ruleset a couple of times, and I was on point with my conditioning. So being able to Ko even through the pads show that their PowerShots are insanely strong. The better kicker in UFC story was a sanda fighter Cung le. There's no better style. There's the better fighter in that moment.

[@davetozin9502]

I train San Da with David Ross in NYC.

[@Loong199]

Speaking of Sanda, since chinese martial arts is useless against most of the martial arts we known..so chinese decided to combine some boxing, grappling, muay thai kick, and others together, so this is how sanda was created dont ask me why i know about this cuz I'm chinese

[@gatocles99]

The Chinese Communists are behind the times... as usual. Kickboxing died out in the 90's. MMA is where it's at now.

[@johncena12366]

Sanda is more exciting than MMA though. No boring ground hugging.

[@gatocles99]

​@@johncena12366 Sanda is the women's golf of the martial arts world. If it was exciting, people would watch it.

[@williamcureton994]

HELLO WILLIAM NEW RULES, 4 MINUTES ROUNDS,5 ROUNDS WITHIN THE ROUND YOU MUST LAND 20 KICKS AND 20 PUNCHES, YOU MUST WEAR PADING ON YOUR FEET WITH SHIN GUARD, NO MORE BOXING GLOVES START WEARING < JEET KUNE DO GLOVES >

[@redpillpusher]

answer: cause it sucks.

[@kaizen_monk]

Sanda is Sandas..Kung fu is badass.. there have not been a single martial art which could beat kung fu in movies..

[@drebodollaz3504]

Its a good sport. Dave leduc started in sanda before anything

[@MrPantera1987]

After watching this I wonder why isn't it " Sanda Panda" instead of "Kung-Fu Panda"

[@greg2502]

BORING...

[@PRAVINRAAJRAAJ]

Everything is from Bodhidharma Tamil Kanchipuram Pallava Dynasty. Kung fu is originally indian martial arts.

[@giorgioterzo6702]

Sanda is perfect for mma, how you can see in One championship. Many Asian fighters use Sanda striking and throwing and of course that's great. The problem is in ufc because is an American league. Every single thing related with China is a problem for the USA.. That's the core of the problem

[@whodatboi2567]

Maybe this is just from the outside looking in, but there also seems to be a lack of support and promotion by the Chinese Communist Party. One would think that the largest country in the world would put a lot of national pride in a highly effective, indigenous sport.

[@jkdm27]

We cannot allow Chinese martial arts, phones, EV cars, integrated chips, ... etc. in any Western area. Only boxing, karate, judo, and tae kwon do should be allowed. And no salat and no escrima allowed.

[@iROChakri]

Then why is Muay thai allowed 😂

[@caramelshorty4154]

Because of 2 reasons: kickboxing and mma. Good night.

[@JO-uy6zs]

Kung fu is a martial art. It has nothing much to do with fight sports. Two different universes.

[@PRAVINRAAJRAAJ]

Sanda is originally indian martial arts

[@JO-uy6zs]

Best fight sport ruleset. Way more exciting to watch without all the boring ground grappling. Plus no ropes on the Lei Tai completely changes the strategy

[@kingalexander1574]

nothing special just like normal kick boxing

[@sopmodP90]

I really hope Sanda will never made it into Olympic tbh