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@doyler_02904 жыл бұрын
That comment about them and Disney being the same was a Golden masterpiece i tip hat to u
@darthknightwingphoenix20814 жыл бұрын
Geetsly's I think you’re overestimating the kaminoans. They’re damn good cloners, but not warriors. The biggest reason for the success of the Jango Fett clones on the battlefield was their TRAINING - training that was NOT provided by the Kaminoans, but by Jango Fett and other mandalorians of the Cuy’vul Dar, as well as other independently contracted bounty hunters. Without such skilled trainers on hand, it’s no wonder that the anti-troopers were crushed by the 501st. Even if they HAD pushed the Empire off Kamino, they would never have lasted long against the full might of the imperial war machine.
@ayman786playz84 жыл бұрын
Done mate
@kellerweskier72144 жыл бұрын
i actually wouldnt take it to that deep. id see the Kamino rebellion as a way for the Kaminoans to make a buffer and defense force. yes. everything you said is spot on. the issue though, is that Kamino has no official navy. If the Kaminoans where successful in creating a buffer zone against the empire, they might go with self-independence, and then start licensing out clones in batches to whoever wanted some. 2 thing would happen at this point: A. They would have been accepted as independent (which i dont think would be acceptable to the Empire's will) B. is a resource hole for the Empire. and the time of the Rebellion popping up, they could have made some kind of alliance. Though, the issue with this is that the Kaminoans where always in control of this massive army that the Rebellion was fighting with. So big, that the Rebellion might just be assimilated into the Kaminoan plot. That is unless the Rebels somehow where able to make an amazing striking deal with the Kaminoans. (1/4th of the universe and free trade sounds fine) in short. it wouldnt seem like your theory wouldnt take off too strongly due to a lack of a navy.
@mattscp94834 жыл бұрын
Yay
@TheBigExclusive4 жыл бұрын
If the Kaminoans were really smart, they would have made every single clone secretly loyal to Kamino. They should have programmed in a secret order for all clones to immediately protect and become loyal to Kaminoans. Like a "execute order super 66". I can't believe they never considered their clones being used against them.
@disgustedcharlie66794 жыл бұрын
_"Order Reverse Uno Card"_
@Pintroll3004 жыл бұрын
Sen Taiyo Or, hear me out: “Execute order 69-No-U”
@babylegs50494 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Palpetine would have figured that out and stopped that from happening.
@doctorlunarous57474 жыл бұрын
@Ike Zeal I think a few of them would have had to have known. The signs were all there something large was going to happen. From the bio-chip specs, to the somehow (probably a kaminoan mole) giving the separatists the blueprints to the Phase 2 clone armor to create cortosis armor as was found in the Thrawn novel. Or the very fact the Kaminoans knew that they were making clones for one person, when it was commissioned by the very person the clones were fighting. Maybe the rise of a Empire specifically was unseeable. But the signs were there something big was gonna happen, and something very corrupt was happening.
@uri_9158.4 жыл бұрын
"Execute you and what army?"
@wiibrockster4 жыл бұрын
The Kaminoan clone uprising is basically Businessmen taking the phrase "hostile take over" to the extreme.
@SNAKE.LOVER.694 жыл бұрын
So, like, every other corporation in Star Wars.
@wiibrockster4 жыл бұрын
@@SNAKE.LOVER.69 Pretty much
@nicholsjoshua154 жыл бұрын
Agresive negotiations...
@Hengilore4 жыл бұрын
That how grofit works - the Corpus
@kevinnorwood87824 жыл бұрын
"After the failed Kamino uprising, the Emperor felt that an army of completely genetically identical soldiers, was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be clones from a wide variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained "pure", the rest of the Imperial army, gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys."
@42Mrgreenman4 жыл бұрын
Woo! Battlefront!
@byronjefferson16974 жыл бұрын
They need to remaster the BF2. Gods that game was awesome
@bigredwolf64 жыл бұрын
Shiro Ryugamine and reintroduce in atmosphere star fighters for air support. Add artillery too maybe
@notatrap65864 жыл бұрын
@@byronjefferson1697 thats just what we need, Remastered Battlefront 2 with half the content in the original sold as DLC
@byronjefferson16974 жыл бұрын
@@notatrap6586 Well, remastering it, they'd have to bring all of it back in one package. Remastering a game is basically updating it to where it can run on modern consoles, at least as far as I know so they couldn't give us half the game back make us pay for the rest.
@Mgauge4 жыл бұрын
Basically, we’d get a force just as evil as the Empire, but more focused and with far better troops.
@marrqi7wini544 жыл бұрын
But then again, imperial high command knows where these worlds are and considering on what numbers you use (A few dozen million in current canon to around 600 million in the older canon.) it is still much less than what the whole of the empire could pull together. So the initial rebellion maybe even secession (Kaminoans) could succeed but a all out war especially against the empire would not go well.
@johnbaldauff55314 жыл бұрын
@@marrqi7wini54 plus they dont have the ships and vechicles either
@MCraven1204 жыл бұрын
Clones have no souls though.
@daswordofgork98234 жыл бұрын
You mean the Imperium of Man?
@phantomkrieger18134 жыл бұрын
@@marrqi7wini54 im sure with time the kaminoans would be able to build new facilities to make even more troopers. In a long time battle they would have a chance. I mean it takes far less time and politics to build a clone army than to raise an army made of people out of thousands of planets. Just look how little time they needed to clone an army of basically super soldiers. Im sure they could clone an high numbers of scrap troopers like stormtroopers in not time. Most of the time of the clones produced for the clone wars was invested in training them not "producing" them.
@Amadeus84844 жыл бұрын
Disney: "Kaminoans, are just like us. Money and power!" Kamino: "Not really. OUR products got BETTER with time."
@Sploinkss4 жыл бұрын
Lmao too true
@jari324 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, the sequels are better then the prequels.
@Amadeus84844 жыл бұрын
@@jari32 I don't think so myself.
@Sploinkss4 жыл бұрын
Jahid Muhammad Funny joke man.
@Sploinkss4 жыл бұрын
Jahid Muhammad ?
@brandonvortex9954 жыл бұрын
"Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the imperial army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys." ~Retired clone trooper
@daedricmace9194 жыл бұрын
I miss that guy
@TheManofthecross4 жыл бұрын
just wait till they started dealing with non clones in the army aka the recruits drawn from the worlds themselves.
@CygnusTheSilly4 жыл бұрын
Watch those wrist rockets!
@bebodahooper61263 жыл бұрын
just like the simulation!
@Byronthebull4 жыл бұрын
"Cut through the anti troopers with ease " *13 yr old me playing battlefront 2: BULLLLLLLLSHIITTTTTT
@fristnamelastname55494 жыл бұрын
"Cut through the anit troopers with ease." Me: *Keeps failing the Mission every time, I play*
@scottishbananaclan4 жыл бұрын
I just remember punching a wall because of those damn shuttles
@comicdude19964 жыл бұрын
Helps when they have years of battle exp.
@duhaceman11304 жыл бұрын
it was pretty easy
@joemcnulty68144 жыл бұрын
"Cut through the anti troopers with ease" That mission was easy, especially after you get your profile to rank of general
@hillelmerkin84984 жыл бұрын
Officially there was no rebellion on Kamino, unofficially...
@212th4 жыл бұрын
Approximately 20 years after we were created.....
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
@@212th It would be cool to have rebel Clones against the Empire
@WShoup98184 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 rex and wolve.
@ChrisWantsToBtl4 жыл бұрын
Walter Shoup wolffe****
@CygnusTheSilly4 жыл бұрын
...a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire. Our mission commander, an expert on the inner workings of Kamino, was a young bounty hunter named Boba Fett
@hunterkiller14403 жыл бұрын
When the long necked aliens were more like Nazis than the space Nazis.
@johnnyryall39663 жыл бұрын
The empire wasnt space nazis they were mongols
@FireFlyOyuncu3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyryall3966 no they were japanese
@johnnyryall39663 жыл бұрын
@@FireFlyOyuncu what like the japenese empire?
@FireFlyOyuncu3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyryall3966 ww2 japan empire
@blobomaximus23853 жыл бұрын
Euthanised the clone batch for different coloured eyes seems space Nazi to me
@christopherchilton-smith64824 жыл бұрын
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...until our enemy is dead. The Kaminoans would have sided with the rebels out of convenience (regardless of what they thought of the rebels politics) and would've cloned their own special forces to pad critical rebel missions. Once the Empire was crippled they would've either retreated back into their mostly isolationist ways or they would've then crushed the new republic with a clone army to end all clone armies which they would've started working on from the moment they secured an alliance to deal with the rebels after the empire was done for.
@LordHydrik4 жыл бұрын
Not in this case, Rebels had too many rules on ethics that they wouldn't bend. And because the Empire made so many clone labs, despite their inferiority, whomever owned them would end up a target as it would hinder the Kaminoan monopoly on cloning. I'd say they would make a new regime which they could make business with and didnt care for the morality of test subjects.
@christopherchilton-smith64824 жыл бұрын
@@LordHydrik Ha, I'd forgotten about all those clone labs. Good points!
@niccolopaganini42684 жыл бұрын
@@LordHydrik -Rebel had rules on ethics -literally commit dozens of war crimes in single battles and kill thousands of innocents like the empire
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
@@niccolopaganini4268 You must be mistaking them for Saw Guerrera, lol
@TheWarmachine3753 жыл бұрын
@Amber Hoke But not an actual part of the Rebel Alliance unfortunately
@shifty35234 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what Disney says. This is canon in my book (:
@TheLeatheryman4 жыл бұрын
Hunter Edgerton Right on bro! 👍
@celestialspartan11764 жыл бұрын
It should be canon. It doesn’t conflict with any of the new lore.
@dhlhthriwdhskissos96064 жыл бұрын
If only...
@diothefristwryyy32244 жыл бұрын
Hunter edgerton Glad you agree
@justinevert15044 жыл бұрын
Hunter Edgerton I agree. As far as I'm concerned, the Clone Rebellion is canon.
@donttreadonmemes4 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks the empire are space Nazis... Turns out that was Kamino. -eugenics -killing those deemed imperfect -authoritarian -desperate to create a perfect soldier -genocides and cullings are par for the course -made their own ss -out for that gold and lebensraum
@memeaids4454 жыл бұрын
Kaminazis
@Amadeus84844 жыл бұрын
The Empire were the Space Nazis. The Kaminoans were the guys in the SS who bred SS Troops with captive Aryan local women...
@sosig64454 жыл бұрын
@@Amadeus8484 and the kaminoan rebellion was just a "night of the long knives"
@Amadeus84844 жыл бұрын
@@sosig6445 I would say that would be Order 66 or if the Empire purged a bunch of imperial officers
@goldxahn52474 жыл бұрын
Like for that Lebensraum
@MasterlKenobi4 жыл бұрын
If the Rebels took Kamino over, they could have started creating a new clone army to fight the Empire. :thinking:
@alexander.tahtadjian4 жыл бұрын
CT-7962 true......it would have been nice to see the rebels create a new clone army.
@GKPB4 жыл бұрын
Nah that's impossible, the same way they didn't made a droid factory to don't get attention, a creation of a new clone army would be even more impracticable since it would need even more resources to do it
@jaredmartin20034 жыл бұрын
@@GKPB Plus there would be the resources they would have to put fourth to keep Kamino as well.
@wellbeatemagain19044 жыл бұрын
CT-7962, You deserve to be a commander.
@cyborg_v2714 жыл бұрын
A nice Idea, but an army requires food, shelter, equipment, ships to transport them, vehicles to move them around and support them. Logistics where not on the rebels side so having a small mobile force capable to punching well above its weight at strategic targets was a far better tactic, its whats known as guerrilla warfare, since the rebels had no way of out competing the empire in terms of sheer logistics and brute force
@disgustedcharlie66794 жыл бұрын
Chad Clones > Virgin Stormtroopers
@supremeleadergnkdroid32024 жыл бұрын
Sen Taiyo underrated comment
@derflinsch97074 жыл бұрын
Oh Shut up Clone Wars Fan Boy Kiddy!
@disgustedcharlie66794 жыл бұрын
@@derflinsch9707 Everybody know Clones are superior to Stormtroopers. Not me being a fan boy just me stating facts. 🤷♂️
@derflinsch97074 жыл бұрын
@@disgustedcharlie6679 Nonono Stormtroopers are Elite Units. They are the best of the Imperial Army Troopers and build a own Corps. And for example Stormtrooper is a big ´´side´´ there are Range Troopers, Shore Troopers or the Death Troopers. Also there are Trained in the Clone Wars Warfare and the Civil War. Clones mostly fighting against Droids.
@disgustedcharlie66794 жыл бұрын
@@derflinsch9707 Regular Clones outmatch regular Stormtroopers by a landslide, Clone Commandos could body Deathtroopers, ARC Troopers outclass Shore Troopers. And since you want to get technical, Clones have Mandalorian DNA from one of the best Mandalorians at the time. Not to mention Jango was *MANDALORE* at the time as well. If you compare regular people against a warrior race I wouldn't reccomend you trying to place to totally different weight classes in the same ring. All in all Clones could easily outmatch Stormtroopers.
@EzekielDeLaCroix4 жыл бұрын
>finishes building an army with years of battle-earned modifications and changes >that army is going to be used against you >that's ok, we're gonna build a new army with all the faulty equipment and obsolete templates.
@jesset25044 жыл бұрын
I’ve never understood why they didn’t alter the clones genetics to slow down their aging once they hit age 20-25.
@digheanurag4 жыл бұрын
Kaminoans didn’t care
@gloomykasumi85803 жыл бұрын
What would they do with all the clone troopers when the war is over though???
@KMCA7793 жыл бұрын
for the same reason Apple slowed down older phones... to keep people buying. Besides, how many troopers were expected to last more than 5 or 10 years?
@dhereaktienner35523 жыл бұрын
@@KMCA779 it is cruel, they are ppl
@dhereaktienner35523 жыл бұрын
@@KMCA779 If they are clones they must have some basic rights
@richardched60853 жыл бұрын
According to the cut Space Kamino level the Kaminoans were attempting to form a Rebel Coalition by sending GR75 Medium Transports out into the Galaxy while a Venator and 2 Acclamators protected the planet against an Imperial Star Destroyer and 2 Victory-II Frigates. This level would lead into the Changing of the Guard mission.
@xyncog29504 жыл бұрын
8:28 lmaoooooo
@bonelessbones51844 жыл бұрын
He said what all actual Star Wars fans are thinking, yes!
@dr.boring70224 жыл бұрын
@@bonelessbones5184 I think he's laughing at the guy's face 😂
@snipercommando94 жыл бұрын
Once again, the Empire saves the galaxy from another threat.
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
For once I agree
@bennygohome45763 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like the empire was the good guys
@4mobius2804 жыл бұрын
The clone rebellion has two major problems going far. The first is time. It takes too long to grow new soldiers. Quality is great, but quantity is a quality in itself. The second is logistics. Troops need to be supplied, equipped, trained and led. The Kaminoans can provide food training and fresh troops, but weapons, ships, experienced leadership and supply lines shut it down beyond Kamino. Simply put, they don't have the necessary details to win much.
@samuelbishop33163 жыл бұрын
They would need help no question.
@petro92274 жыл бұрын
kamino had no shipyards. They couldn't do much damage
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
But where did the GAR get the ships in the first place back at Attack of the Clones?
@aeroblitzxt00794 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 they were manufactured by kuat drive yards
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
@Aeroblitzxt 007 That makes sense. I am surprised the Senate did not know of this until the beginning of the Clone Wars.
@thomasshermane86444 жыл бұрын
Rothana, which is a system next to Kamino manufactured the heavy machineries like AT-TE and Large Transport ships. The system was mentioned in the video.
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshermane8644 I see. Thanks for the explanation. :o
@RealCodreX4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how a successful Kaminoan uprising would have reacted to the Yuuzhan Vong invasion.
@MASTEROFEVIL3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@xuruiyu3 жыл бұрын
@@MASTEROFEVIL It's not a story Disney would tell you. It's a Star Wars Legend. They are a species from beyond the known galaxy, invisible to the Force, ravaging worlds like a locust.... Palpatine most likely knew about them, and created the Death Stars to have a better fighting chance
@MASTEROFEVIL3 жыл бұрын
@@xuruiyu Hmm. I'd like to see that
@xuruiyu3 жыл бұрын
@@MASTEROFEVIL Yeah, all of us would... But instead we got Rey Sue One has to read comics or books for the actual story after ROTJ
@MASTEROFEVIL3 жыл бұрын
@@xuruiyu What about any of the games?
@docterdiamonxd67354 жыл бұрын
What if the Rebeliion Fought back with a droid army 😶
@TheWarmachine3754 жыл бұрын
They would be easily demonized as CIS remnants
@CygnusTheSilly4 жыл бұрын
Play the classic battlefront 2 before the mission about the kamino uprising there is a mission about that on mustafar
@Jay-tg3eb3 жыл бұрын
90% of droid factories which survived order 66 amd the fall of the seperatist were destroyed. The remaining factories were so well hidden and forgotten it be almost impossible to find them Not to mentiom they would be badly damaged and only functioning at around 25 to 50% capacity. But if the rebels did find them & in good condition.. They could have began production of AAT's & other droid vehicles, not to mention armys of super batrle droids and commando droids.
@HolyknightVader9993 жыл бұрын
They did. It was called the Confederacy of Independent Systems. They were even led by a student of Master Yoda and fought against a corrupt Senate that was increasingly under Palpatine's control.
@WillowProductions4 жыл бұрын
Clone troopers are great and all, but you cant conquer the galaxy with an army of foot soldiers.
@digheanurag4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s why they would take over shipyards ASAP
@samuelbishop33163 жыл бұрын
There are shipyards neighbouring Kamino. They'd only have to take this and thats it.
@KWyzel3 жыл бұрын
The Planet Rothana is next to Kamino, and was used to create Heavy Armored Vehicles in both the Republic and Imperial eras. Rothana Heavy Engineering produced many of the vehicles and ships that we associate with the Grand Army of the Republic, such as the LA/AT, Acclamator class Ship, and the AT-TE. Its also not farfetched for the Kaminoans to use this engineering hub to perhaps produce blasters and other ships if need be.
@Jedi_Spartan4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that the Kaminoans wouldn't have been pushed to this if Plagueis ruled the Empire...
@slikdeezyg85774 жыл бұрын
I agree with that.
@slikdeezyg85774 жыл бұрын
After reading darth plagueis this would have went down way differently
@chibicthulhu43824 жыл бұрын
He was weak
@pauldelivera28474 жыл бұрын
@@chibicthulhu4382 for what getting litty and taking a nap
@Jay-tg3eb3 жыл бұрын
Plagueis would have been star wars version of trump lol.
@ethanhalstead54924 жыл бұрын
The Kaminoans now more than ever remind me of the Elders from XCOM. Genetic perfectionism, clone armies, etc. All they need now is the secrets of the midicholrians and they're set
@nickvinsable37984 жыл бұрын
I was fairly aware. Still personally believe that certain Kaminoans might’ve swayed to the line “the enemy of my enemy is my ally”, thus could’ve offered the rebellion some cloning related services as a means of dismantling the empire & such.
@ecowanderer60993 жыл бұрын
I hope the Bad Batch brings this into Canon
@mrgruntpocalypse33964 жыл бұрын
The Kaminoans remind me of basically every empire I play in stellaris
@jackwilliamsmith87343 жыл бұрын
In Star Wars, the Kaminoans are actually a really scary species but the Galactic Republic were clearly willing to ignore Kamino’s unethical ideas and practices.
@InternetMameluq3 жыл бұрын
1:00: When the market is controlled by a single buyer it's called a monopsony. A market controlled through a single supplier is a monopoly.
@drip92104 жыл бұрын
*These giraffes are a lot more than I thought they were*
@stealthynaxo4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of and I know this is not Star Wars but how come unicorns are consider mythical but giraffes aren't? I mean, come on nature! What is more believable? A horse with a horn or a mutant horse, jaguar, camel hybrid with a big ass neck?!
@aihayasaka69164 жыл бұрын
@@stealthynaxo memes?
@stealthynaxo4 жыл бұрын
@@aihayasaka6916 nah legit question. Is like when in Marvel they say: "thats impossible". Dude; there are literal gods walking the Earth why are you surprised by ANYTHING?
@aihayasaka69164 жыл бұрын
@@stealthynaxo nah
@brianwalsh95953 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine this is what happened just before Topika city got sunken into the ocean.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't''t the empire had just used it's massive fleet to bomb Kamino into rubble if they could not win the land war.
@marrqi7wini544 жыл бұрын
Probably.
@turtleman_destro5044 жыл бұрын
It depends on a lot of variables, for example how many clones were still on the Storm Trooper core and on the Imperial ships? though the 501st took out the small rebellion the 501st were seasoned loyal veterans who served directly for and with Vader/Anakin. some of the Clones may have had an issue killing there brothers and creators for the empire and may have in the process taken ships over to support Kamino
@lennyfais50404 жыл бұрын
BDZ the fuckers
@bigredwolf64 жыл бұрын
What land?
@RomanHistoryFan476AD4 жыл бұрын
@@bigredwolf6 The floating island cities.
@amayaproductions17114 жыл бұрын
Clones> Stormtroopers
@GKPB4 жыл бұрын
@@gabrieltejada1697 I guess even droids are more efficient than stormtroopers
@gabrieltejada16974 жыл бұрын
Guilherme Pascuti naw they got owned pretty hard by stormtroopers in the Rebels show.
@ladyriethegoldendelmo54414 жыл бұрын
@@gabrieltejada1697 isn't that because those droids are getting old? cause thats what erza said which explains why they weren't strong... remember in episode 2 droids almost killed all jedis until clones showed up. and storm troopers should be last and droids after stormies lol
@gabrieltejada16974 жыл бұрын
Lady Idoun nope cause stormies are better and only lose to characters essential to the plot which usually consist of main characters and the droids only came close to beating the Jedi simply due to overwhelming numbers otherwise they wouldn’t have beaten the Jedi either so take a seat 😉
@ladyriethegoldendelmo54414 жыл бұрын
@@gabrieltejada1697 uh droids were made for numbers u know that right? also in the anime clone wars there were times droids won... if droids can beat jedis then they can beat stormies. also whats next? american soldiers can beat droids? lol
@christophersalinas27224 жыл бұрын
For the Chad Anti Troopers I still prefer this, but anything over the Rebels.
@tylermcflyer30614 жыл бұрын
As Allen from gen tech told us, if you see a kaminoan... Shoot it
@n8dawgxx8284 жыл бұрын
Ha, that comment on Disney was spot on Great job Geetlys
@CommanderWolf8884 жыл бұрын
I disagree, there is no way the Kaminoans could have actually succeeded in their revolt. Even if a revealed rebellion had repulsed the Empire, the Imperial fleet would likely just blockade them. The Kaminoans can put out large numbers of soldiers, but equipment mostly came from offworld from places like Rothana. With supply lines cut off, the Empire could win a relatively easy war of attrition. If the rebellion had managed to get to its completed stage, the Kaminoans (depending on how many ships and weapons they had) could possible have taken Rishi (an excellent chokepoint guarding Kamino), Ukio (An agrarian world that could ensure the Kaminoan armies were supplied with basic necessity), and maybe Rothana (providing industry needed to mass produce weapons, vehicles, and even starships). If they struck fast enough, they might be able to nick those systems from the Empire, but it's doubtful they could hold them. The Imperial military and navy is just to massive, and is not totally reliant on those systems. The Imperials would launch a massive counteroffensive, likely overwhelming unfinished Kaminoan fleets and armies, and steadily pushing them back to their homeworld suffering whatever casualties were necessary to make it so. Once contained, the Empire would starve them out as outlined previously. For the Kaminoans to actually cement their expansion, the Empire would have to either not react harshly, or not react at all, which is laughably unrealistic.
@Eli-akad4 жыл бұрын
CommanderWolf888 Or a 3rd option for success would be for them to plan the the rebellion for about 11 to 12 years, so Luke’s rebellion can start. But they couldn’t predict something like that, and that much planning wouldn’t be reasonable.
@alexanderchristopher62374 жыл бұрын
Eli-akad not to mention the fact that the Kaminoans rebellion would be a threat not only to the Empire, but also to the Rebels as well.
@hotdogstockimage4 жыл бұрын
My idea is: What if the Kaminoans tried to find the old CIS droid factories on geonosis? And reactivate the many droids there and they could also try to find other sepertist equipment.
@hotdogstockimage4 жыл бұрын
Not only geonosis but the other planets that had those factories
@KarakNornClansman4 жыл бұрын
@@Eli-akad Prediction is not needed. Secret buildup, only to be launched once something massive shakes the Empire. A stance of ready to strike opportunistically and pounce at the right moment.
@soldier228814 жыл бұрын
2:35 oh boy the irony of that image is strong considering how those at ats get taken out in the movie
@NinjatoBlade4 жыл бұрын
this sounds like a great idea for a stellaris civilization
@camguy63874 жыл бұрын
You would think it was bad that it failed since it would make the Empire short lived. Let's see what you have to say about it. What I think: I gotta say that after hearing that about the Kaminoans it made me disappointed in the Republic is my favorite faction in the SWU and it pains me to see that my favorite fighting force was euthanized for having bad eye color.
@aaronbasham65544 жыл бұрын
Join the CIS, the best designed army and the veteran core of the Rebellion
@mitsvanmitsvanio61064 жыл бұрын
Now imagine a B1 playing the veteran among the rebels.
@CygnusTheSilly4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbasham6554 join the lego separatists we have concerned 20000 universes with a million more well on the way
@palpadur11124 жыл бұрын
and this is why i make Kamino a priority target when playing Star Wars Empire at War and Forces of Corruption as the Rebellion or Zhan Consortium, or the mods for them: a thorn in your side can become an abscess, and from there a life threatening infection. best to deal with it quickly.
@rednation1494 жыл бұрын
Tobias McKnight anything small is a future threat
@spinxtercell4 жыл бұрын
😂 he compares them to Disney
@Mr.DiughGames4 жыл бұрын
Ikr. Its uncanny.
@mathunit14 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.DiughGames No, it's stupid.
@mathunit14 жыл бұрын
Comparison is stupid.
@CygnusTheSilly4 жыл бұрын
@@mathunit1 the ability to speak does not make you intelligent
@SquirrelASMR3 жыл бұрын
@@mathunit1 shut up sequel lover and Kathleen Kennedy supporter.
@floydwilson30854 жыл бұрын
“Motivations were profit and control. Much like Disney” Lmfao
@dylanrivera2244 Жыл бұрын
It seems that our imperial friends over at the canon universe saw this video and were so freaked out that they decided to cut their losses and blow up Tipoca city.
@UncleMikeDrop4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a Kaminoan dominated Galactic Empire would react to the Yuzhan Vong.
@RikkiTikkiTavi2904 жыл бұрын
I want to see the Kaminoans create an army of perfect Vong clones and take over the Universe
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 you do realize that the vongs would kill them without a second thought so cloning is unlikely
@RikkiTikkiTavi2904 жыл бұрын
@@dreademperor2094 Well Kamino was intact after the Vong War so there goes that theory
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 ok
@bigredwolf64 жыл бұрын
*excited experimentation noises*
@donnmckee49733 жыл бұрын
I think the Kaminons that rebelled would have been easy to defeat once found out since they did not have access to their own weapons and ship facilities instead relying on other major contractors who I doubt would continue supplying a rebel clone group and the republic/empire.
@heathmorris61004 жыл бұрын
“Much like Disney” absolutely right my man!
@joshuamaldonado2504 жыл бұрын
I’m confused tho, I know the kaminoans could clone large armies but we never hear of them building a navy that could compete with the empires. Wouldn’t that mean that even if they liberated Kamino then they would just be blockaded?
@KWyzel3 жыл бұрын
Theres a planet next to Kamino, called Rothana, which is home to the Rothana Heavy Engineering company. It produced most of the Vehicles and Ships we associate with the Clone Armies such as the LA/AT, Acclamator Ships, and AT-TE. Chances are if the Empire was pushed off Kamino the Kaminoans would have enough equipment on hands to mount a quick rush for Rothana to capture it for use in producing a navy and heavy vehicles. Long term becomes more sketchy however, as Rothana only produced smaller ships and heavy ground vehicles, they'd need a true navy to besides fleets of Acclamators to truly win the day.
@valeriogerardi93582 жыл бұрын
@@KWyzel rothana was a subsidiary of kuat driveyards, loyal to the empire. Rothana would have built ships for the empire, not for the kaminoans
@KWyzel2 жыл бұрын
@@valeriogerardi9358 It doesn't matter what your loyalty is, when a Clone Army lands on your planet and boots out the Imperial Garrison. A factory doesn't get to choose who it makes what for, it's merely a tool to make those things.
@valeriogerardi9358 Жыл бұрын
@@KWyzel how can a clone Army Land on a Planet without ships? Those few they might have would be intercept and destroyed by the orbital defenses
@KWyzel Жыл бұрын
@@valeriogerardi9358 Easy, if a Clone Army overthrows the Imperial Garrison on Kamino there would obviously be ships and equipment left over, plus there would've likely been Ships already in use by the Kaminoans whom were under the Imperial Employ, wouldn't be hard to divert funds and supplies to an uprising when you have essentially unlimited manpower.
@sc2_Nightmare4 жыл бұрын
I mean... that ideology is hinted at in the Clone Wars show, if memory serves, by the Kaminoan senator.
@clonechoopa314 жыл бұрын
Anybody else getting any X-COM 2 vibes from this? Now knowing this info, convinces me more that the Kaminoans are the Elders from X-COM 2.
@NovoCognition4 жыл бұрын
Quite an interesting video and alternate timeline. However something that I have yet to see be brought up is the fact that although the Kaminoans are great cloners they don't have any large scale ship manufacturing industries, one may have the best soldiers in galaxy but if one is unable to have fleets capable of transporting them and winning space battles the Kaminoans could only get a small handful of nearby systems. Is it also unlikely they would be able to find any allies that could provide them with this. For the mid-rim and inward major ship-yards consist almost solely (with few exceptions) on human populated worlds and all are more or less either pro-imperial worlds like Kuat who would be distrustful or even hateful of the Kaminoans, or pro-Rebellion worlds like Corellia who as stated would be pro-democracy and against authoritarianism. There is not much luck in the outer rim either. The Chiss are reclusive xenophobes. The Mon-Calamari are pro-rebel. The Hutts would find the Kaminoans to expensive and perfectionist for their liking and would probably mess with their status quo. And the former separatist factions like the Neimoidians and Muuns have all but had their facilities, wealth, and resources, confiscated or demolished by the Empire years prior. The Kaminoans would have an army, but little to no navy to speak of and no one either willing or able to help them effectively. Plus with few resources leading to an inability produce a military force on a large enough scale leaves the Kaminoans to be doomed from the very start.
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
The entire galaxy against one lone planet
@LasertechStudios31424 жыл бұрын
If they can pick up Rothana (which is in their galactic neighborhood) that gives them a strong industrial base that would be able to produce both the vehicles and starships they would need. Rishi, which is practically a neighbor of theirs, could give them a steady flow of valuable fossil fuel resources to either trade with the rest of the galaxy or fuel their war machine. Finally, Bothawui is also in close proximity. If the Kaminoans can cut a deal to get access to the Bothan Spy Net, they suddenly become a much bigger threat.
@NovoCognition4 жыл бұрын
@@LasertechStudios3142 ; I can agree with you on Rishi however the other two are unlikely. Rothana Engineering is a subsidiary of Kuat Drive Yards only matched by Corella and Fondor in ship building and a major assist to the empire; any attack there would be noticed by the empire and lead to a quick mobilization of a small task forces fleet of VSDs and/or ISDs. Also having a large human population on the planet equipped with powerful defenses means the planet won't go down without a fight. As for Bothawui, Bothans being mildly xenophobic themselves (though not even close to the same extent as Kaminoans) and tending to stay neutral unless under direct threat means that they would not likely help the Kaminoans unless they had something to gain and even still they would not help very much.
@kyleallam6054 жыл бұрын
i remember playing star wars battle front 2 on the playstation 2 it was one of the best games i ever played
@flyer31544 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@foolduke28104 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@Prince-to5cf4 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@generalreclaimer20684 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@gunnerysergeanthartmann17284 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@WarShadow8184 жыл бұрын
Good soldiers follow orders
@charliecooper65864 жыл бұрын
How would they face the empire without a fleet ?
@RikkiTikkiTavi2904 жыл бұрын
@@user-hl7pk7rg8h ahahahahahha
@COSMOSfitness8753 жыл бұрын
They had aclamators
@superkamiguru68564 жыл бұрын
But what about the fact that Clones take so long to make? Even if they were outputting a few hundred per day, the Empire would likely see them as a threat and wipe them out before it got started. Plus what about Weapons and Armor? There's only so much Phase 1 stuff laying around, they'd run out of equipment too fast. Plus there was SOME Kaminoans that were loyal to the Empire and made Imperial Clones, even during the Uprising, so wouldn't there be a civil war on the planet? Then what about Fleets? Rothana made the Aclamators and Vehicles of the Republic, while Kuat made the rest. They'd have no fleet, or at least they'd only have captured ships from the Kamino Fleet, assuming they break the blockade on their planet. Plus all their troopers are shinnies with rushed training going against Battle-Hardened Clones with full training. On top of all that, what of Admirals and Generals? Maybe the Clones would be the Admirals and Generals, but it since they had rushed training, they probably didn't learn how to lead, and again, they have no experience. Once Vader came in, assuming the first attack failed like in this hypothetical scenario, he'd use the rest of the 501st and maybe even the 212th or 21st Nova Corps, or even another legion like the 51st with armored vehicles to crush their rebellion. There's just too much stacked against them, and I feel as if it's realistic that they failed. Also I'm not saying that this video or channel is bad, and I do like the idea of a Clone Rebellion, I just wanted to point out the reasons why it wouldn't work.
@miab-p68742 жыл бұрын
8:04 Whoah, that's basically the Qu from All Tomorrows!
@CT70564 жыл бұрын
For the republic!
@viperson98184 жыл бұрын
A good thing phase one armor was terrible.
@shadow-squid48724 жыл бұрын
viper Son Really!? I never heard that it was BAD...
@Iceman-cf2oc4 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought was everything would be white.
@Bluesonofman4 жыл бұрын
They don’t see like we do. To us it’s white but to them it’s some other color on the spectrum
@slayerminion1834 жыл бұрын
in the alternate timeline kamino is essentially phezzan without the earth cult aspect. love it
@at-teclonetrooper24823 жыл бұрын
When you want an answer to the question to the title then end up listening to the history of Kaminoans
@thorshammer78834 жыл бұрын
How powerful was Emperor Vitiate's Sith Empire when compared to Palpatine's Galactic Empire (Expanded Universe canon).
@RyuKaguya4 жыл бұрын
The sith empire was technically stronger but in the end smaller because the old republic was a terrifying fighting force. Though the sith empire almost took over completely and could have if not for the emperor's ulterior motives.
@wiibrockster4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this uprising canon? I remember hearing it mentioned in a comic or novel,or am I thinking of something else.
@josjos22034 жыл бұрын
Tarlo The Boar the OG battlefront 2
@zweist71754 жыл бұрын
i was intrigued to see that the kaminoan at 3:24 had a model of a y wing with the plating removed from the thrusters like on original trilogy y wings
@jrodproductionstudios95874 жыл бұрын
Imagine how cool that would be. A major large scale war between Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers
@gavinvick35924 жыл бұрын
Ah so the Kaminoans are the aliens that take over the world in Xcom 2
@silvertemplar80614 жыл бұрын
The elders do appear similarly.
@History_Sessions9974 жыл бұрын
Guys imagine a clone hybrid of a ewok a wookie
@emperortethysusdacertified81754 жыл бұрын
... I mean, Wookiees and Ewoks are basically the same thing. It's just one's a Big Boi and the other's a Ornery Teddy Bear
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
@@emperortethysusdacertified8175 one teddy bear will rip you apart with their bare hands
@jawbelly91743 жыл бұрын
A Kaminoan spy network would be amazing to witness. Imagine, Cloned Moffs, Hutts, Influential persons.
@macedmatt4 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh :) nothing like the original clone wars art style in that thumbnail to smooth my soul :,)
@kevinwise19974 жыл бұрын
Right! I had to do a double take on that art!
@pablogr69604 жыл бұрын
a single planet cant take on both factions, they had no founds for ships
@emmanuelmorris76534 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing a kamino killing their own child for having a different yellow eyes so I believe it.
@Tyrosine09104 жыл бұрын
@MG16NCP Dick
@vitorkennedy18624 жыл бұрын
If Kamino's rebellion were successful, it would not have been necessary for Starkiller to have wrecked the shit out of that place.
@duncanjones7443 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t know that about the Kamino and but it makes absolutely prefect sense about why the Jango clones were so good
@jamiewalsh33494 жыл бұрын
As much as the Kaminoian's where great cloner's they seem like absolute jerks
@KamikazeK2194 жыл бұрын
LMAO he called them Disney 😂😂
@supremeleadergnkdroid32024 жыл бұрын
It’s not a good day unless geetsly uploads a video
@tf26644 жыл бұрын
I never even knew about this rebellion
@daswordofgork98234 жыл бұрын
Because of their failed rebellion, the Galactic Empire decided to recruit guys who can’t hit the broad side of a Hutt, making the rebel alliance win in the end.
@Charlie947814 жыл бұрын
The soldiers of the empire actually destroyed rebel terrorists who weren’t the main characters
@Jupiter.1414 жыл бұрын
Uuuhh. You didn't know that the empire is winning from all of the sides in known galaxy against the rebel alliance? Yes.. they are actually winning. Luke's adventure with his gang is only a small portion of the war in terms of galactic conquest. If luke did not joined the fight vader would actually not be disturbed in his conquest against the rebels, bottomline is the empire dominated in all star system which means overall the stormtroopers were very effective
@chrisg43144 жыл бұрын
Empire: What rebellion?
@henrykkeszenowicz46643 жыл бұрын
The clone armies are opening so many possibilities for a lot of dystopias actually. If we would include the TFU games into cannon, an army of Kaminoan cloned force users would be just terrifying.
@svendietrich90892 жыл бұрын
And the way how Kaminoans forced their own species forced to "evolve" kinda reminds me of the Spartan culture and the way how they selected their future soldiers and warriors
@scottishbananaclan4 жыл бұрын
Kaminoans: I see no God up here Other than me!
@johnmardyniak444 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting something: The Kaminoans have no navy
@walnzell93283 жыл бұрын
The Kaminoan clone armies trying to dominate the galaxy is pretty close to what Timothy Zahn imagined the Clone Wars were before the prequels were announced.
@Sasha-nl8ry3 жыл бұрын
At least we can all agree Disney has grossly mishandled star wars and that the new movies and their "lore" aren't good.
@David-Dash-IBA4 жыл бұрын
JUSTICE FOR FIVES!
@gabrieltejada16974 жыл бұрын
Hobo Joe how?
@David-Dash-IBA4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Tejada I was calling for justice for him, that’s all
@gabrieltejada16974 жыл бұрын
Hobo Joe over a conflict that involved clones fighting each other?
@futureclonecommando22754 жыл бұрын
Why its a good thing clone rebelled against the empire and why it should have been successful......i wouldnt care of there money nor the cost of consequences
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
I would rather live in a galaxy where the kaminoans aren't committing genocide
@mitchcoleman12384 жыл бұрын
This all came as a surprise!!! I knew the Kaminoans were pricks, but I never would’ve dreamed it was as bad as that!!! 😵😵😵😵
@benimel32043 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this in the new bad batch series.
@raymondlaw52584 жыл бұрын
Star ships? Where did the kamino get these ships??
@bobthebuilder13603 жыл бұрын
Probably from the republic to train clones or something idk lol
@duckycat96793 жыл бұрын
Nope! the empire just bombed them lol
@SquirrelASMR3 жыл бұрын
Because the kaminoans are even bigger psychopaths than sith lords.
@SquirrelASMR3 жыл бұрын
"Their motivations are money and control, which makes them a lot like Disney actually" _-Geetslys_
@gabrieltejada16974 жыл бұрын
Don’t care as long as both the empire and rebellion die off (especially the rebellion).
@dreademperor20944 жыл бұрын
*goes to get the vongs*
@neofulcrum50134 жыл бұрын
I think I would’ve preferred if succeeded to be honest
@havoc9893 жыл бұрын
Best mission in my opinion it was so much fun also the giraffe people where messed up both in looks and in what they do.