Why JKD is Wrong about Wing Chun

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Izzo Wing Chun

Izzo Wing Chun

Күн бұрын

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@leestephenfitzpatrick6373
@leestephenfitzpatrick6373 Жыл бұрын
What everybody forgets, or seems not to talk about, is that he carried on learning Wing Chun when he arrived back in the US, his fathers friend from the red boat wing chun lineage, can't remember the sifu's name, carried on his teaching. So he was a lot more advanced than people seem to want to give him credit for.
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 Жыл бұрын
Heard the same thing
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg Жыл бұрын
Facts
@briandunne2153
@briandunne2153 Жыл бұрын
Still doesn't mean he learned or knows All Wing Chun
@webherring
@webherring Жыл бұрын
Where's the proof of this??
@dkcarey1
@dkcarey1 6 ай бұрын
If that's the case, why was he begging Ip Man to teach him dummy when he went back to HK, even offering to buy him a house? Also why in one of his personal letters later in life before he died did he admitted that WC was an essential core to his JDK and lamented that he wished he had finished the system to have a more complete understanding of it? Not saying you're incorrect, just doesn't seem to match up if he indeed took on a new sifu
@thewarriorsgarden6316
@thewarriorsgarden6316 Жыл бұрын
The thing I like about Izzo is his honesty, brutality with his wing chun, and his forward pressure. As a JKD guy, I never liked the moving around stuff. Crash in violently, strike and trap the entire opponent. Keep it up Izzo I like watching your videos.
@user-nu8in3ey8c
@user-nu8in3ey8c Жыл бұрын
To this day the best JKD, and honestly the best self defense program, that I have ever seen is the original Paul Vunak Rapid Assault Tactics. It uses the best elements Muay Thai and Wing Chun. JKD people may say "that is not proper JKD". the Rapid Assault Tactics system is not really designed to make you a good martial artist, it is designed to make you able to hold your own in a street fight against your average attacker. It is simple, and you focus on creating your entry, applying pressure using a chain punch(which also simultaneously occupies the centerline), and terminating the fight from trapping range.
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg Жыл бұрын
Facts
@wubear260
@wubear260 Жыл бұрын
Yes along the same likes as Lee Morrison's Urban Combatives system where funny enough he was taught by Paul Vunak too. Also I really like Bruce Lee his philosophy is great and can be applied in life but he is not infallible and has made mistakes. Plus I respect your experience Izzo.
@RedSplinter36
@RedSplinter36 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I'm a full instructor directly under both Sifu Paul Vunak and Guro Inosanto... their interpretation of the JKD philosophy is hands down the best to me. Insanto students represent JKD in the military (Paul Vunak) and MMA (Greg Nelson and Erik Paulson) realms for a reason.
@germancrespo2724
@germancrespo2724 8 ай бұрын
That's right..we have to look for things that work in reality..and full believe in focus training...now if you think that kid is the best....you screwed.... MMA is very efficient but also you have to incorporate surprising attack quick fast ...don't need years of study classical routine.i don't practice MMA..too old..but I seen that is almost good.. Paul has a very good sense of brutal effective combat...I like him...
@lawrencecrayton9844
@lawrencecrayton9844 8 ай бұрын
Guro Sing is a student of Guru Vunak right??
@KurtisJoseph
@KurtisJoseph Жыл бұрын
Great video Izzo. Keep keepin it real.
@KungfuKhronicles
@KungfuKhronicles 6 ай бұрын
Nice got a chance to speak with Sifu Singh myself, and you're right he's the real deal. Been likin these video breakdowns lately. 👍🏾
@mikeposavic9646
@mikeposavic9646 Жыл бұрын
Being a good fighter is more psychological than anything. My teacher was not in good shape and he was old. He got into real fights up to a couple of years before he died. He was abused badly and had to fight every day. I'm glad I had him for a teacher. I learned from a fighter, and I'm very fortunate. The Chinese martial arts he taught me work very well.
@2gpowell
@2gpowell Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown and commentary. I agree 100 percent with your everything you stated. I am one of those JKD guys that transitioned Wing Chun practitioners. Great video!
@stevebrindle1724
@stevebrindle1724 Жыл бұрын
I am a 70-year-old English martial artist who has trained in several styles since my mid-teens. Boxing, TKD Judo, and 15 years of Wing Chun although at my age I only do Yoga and Tai Chi to keep me healthy. I will add here that under Sifu Joseph Cheng I only did Su lim Tao and its applications plus thousands of basic punches with an upward twist at the end for 2 years before moving on to the second pattern! I always watch your podcasts and mostly agree so much with your words, I agree with your comments about Bruce Lee who I have always considered has been hero-worshiped too much (Through no fault of his own I must add!) I love your pure and aggressive attitude to Wing Chun Sir and I respect Wing Chun so much, your podcasts sir are full of wisdom! I must add here that in a fight if a capable wrestler manages to get hold of you it's probably game over!
@colreef
@colreef Жыл бұрын
Great video Dominic.Some good insights.
@cajetan
@cajetan Жыл бұрын
Enjoy your channel IZZO. Id like to see your input/opinion on videos of dan insosanto’s explanation of differences between jkd and wing chun in some of the “newer” video footage of him on KZbin. Thank you and take care.
@ironmantis778
@ironmantis778 Жыл бұрын
You guys seen Bruce Lee's iron knuckles tho? I think iron body conditioning trumps all the wiggle waggle dancing fighters do these days. The style you advance with is really irrelevant if your doing iron body training.
@stoveall83
@stoveall83 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@nemesis9022
@nemesis9022 Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. I have gotten back to doing SLT most evenings. I'm trying to do better about standing up straight and focusing on structure, because I've noticed I have a tendency to slouch a little when I get to the second section. One of these days I need to actually memorize chum kiu 😅
@WebDominatorSEO
@WebDominatorSEO Жыл бұрын
Singh is not only a hig level Wing Chun Blash Sash, and 30 years in JKD, he is also a Brazilian Jiujitsu Black Belt. I dont think that Izzo would stand a chance.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun Жыл бұрын
Nearly 30 years in Wing Chun and wrestling since I was 12. I like my chances. I also have mass and strength on him.
@stevebrindle1724
@stevebrindle1724 Жыл бұрын
That would depend on who got in first, i believe if Sifu Singh did it would not stop Sifu Izzo but if Sifu Izzo got in first it would be game over
@briandunne2153
@briandunne2153 Жыл бұрын
Wing Chun doesn't have a black sash it's either nothing or a red sash when you have learnt and competent enough to teach a Sifu. Traditionally open to challenges.
@ttx3
@ttx3 Жыл бұрын
when similar martial experience is equal, agresivity and fighting IQ make the difference
@ShinobiShaman
@ShinobiShaman Жыл бұрын
​@@IzzoWingChun Take the Wing Chun out of JKD, leave the fencing, boxing, & kicks, & I'd put my money on the JKD guys against the Wing Chun guys, in a real fight on average. Especially if those JKD guys are full contact sparring.
@gporr7004
@gporr7004 Жыл бұрын
To say Bruce Lee didn’t know the correct WingChun or wasn’t as good as people think is asinine. None of us met him in person of course. But the man was obviously great at what he did. He’s dead for 50 years and to talk shit about the guy who put it in the map is rediculous. These guys talk like they’re the best thing to happen to Wing Chun or martial arts. Any one close to Bruce Lee say repeatedly how great he was. We’ll never know but to say for sure he wasn’t is rediculous. So easy for people to knock someone who can’t defend themself. Wanna knock Segal perfect the guy is alive to defend himself. Brice Lee would most likely kick the shit out of most of these you tubers yet they are so critical of his skill.
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg Жыл бұрын
Facts
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 3 ай бұрын
Bruce was good but the topic is was he wing chun master no. He did not complete eduation
@DGillian6406
@DGillian6406 Жыл бұрын
*More Contact= More Control You are 100% correct, sir
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
For short, because Bruce was practically speaking still a white belt in modern/western terminology. He didn't "know" wing Chun. And he did NOT "keep what is useful", there's not a thing in wing chun that isn't useful, and there's tons of things he never learned/couldnt figure out in the way he was Taught. And I'm no "Bruce Lee hater", I'm very aware of his ability and understanding of martial arts in general as well as wing Chun specifically. For short, I saw people saying the never understood the argument between wing chun and jkd, and simply put it boils down to regardless of his martial arts abilities, bruce was not nearly qualified to speak as some sort of authority on wing Chun. And many people today ignorantly or dishonestly act like he was.
@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp
@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp Жыл бұрын
You don't know about Bruce Lee
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp frankly I know more about Bruce Lee than he knew about himself. And I certainly know more about wing Chun than Bruce ever did. I know precisely what he learned and what he did not. I know how he was taught, and what parts he did not understand and was attempting to figure out all his life , and thr many interpretations of his own he gave to things he was taught. So yeah I'd say I know plenty about Bruce Lee.
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp I know Bruce Lee wasn't even in master ip's top 3.
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
@@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp hell Bruce wasn't even a student of ip man, he was WSL student inside of ip man's school for around 3- 4 years.
@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp
@IgirimbabaziInnocent-xq5bp Жыл бұрын
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 but he wose Great martial
@everlastingwingchundunedin4776
@everlastingwingchundunedin4776 Жыл бұрын
I had a little laugh when ya mentioned they should put boxing in the title because 3 days ago I posted a clip "Wing chun Chinese boxing bob" and to my surprise has received over 600 views...and man the boxing trolls cant understand why I'm not prancing back and forward...and can't see on the video that the equipment I'm using is solid wood on the inside hence using it more for general flow than power... Good video Mr Izzo.
@mutant0177
@mutant0177 Жыл бұрын
I think it is not really reasonable to start with JKD because it is based on an very talented individual who wanted people to react freely. The problem is that you only can transcent structure if you know them. Or in other words the newbe needs guidlines. On the otherhand starting Wing Chun (especially for self defence) is not wie because it takes a lot of time to get "useful" in a fight.
@madjidchouarbi3921
@madjidchouarbi3921 Жыл бұрын
It's really true that difference in weight makes a a enourmous difference in power delivery, that's why you also learn weapons in any serious Kung Fu style.
@corstemor
@corstemor Жыл бұрын
Love the 'I Know Kungfu' shirt but link in the description doesn't go to it 😕
@crazyshev36
@crazyshev36 7 ай бұрын
Damn as someone new learning wing chun, ive just learned more about wing chun watching this than the two years ive listened to an instructor, how does this only have 7k ish views
@ShennThomas93
@ShennThomas93 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ..Good Vid IZZO .. Agree with you 100 percent!!..
@nonanon666
@nonanon666 Жыл бұрын
Nothing makes me laugh quite like people who aren't trained in WC explaining what WC is. When I see someone throwing feints, retracting strikes, voluntarily releasing a limb they have contact with, and I hear the words "This is how Wing Chun does it" fall out of their mouth, all I can do is shake my head. You may as well be throwing triple-spin kicks while backflipping and saying, "This is how Western boxing does it". It's right there in the philosophy/credo of Classical WC; "Receive what comes, follow what goes, when a clear path is open; strike". My sifu taught me that if you're relentlessly applying constant forward pressure against whatever block or parry you've encountered, when an opening presents itself you don't have to think about exploding through it, any more than the sea has to think about exploiting a crack in a dam. I'm built the opposite of Izzo - I'm slim - but I was never taught to dance around, and was taught to drive forward relentlessly like a Terminator to end the threat, regardless of whether the threat outweighs me by 100kg and has a reach advantage. I don't know where the hell people get these misconceptions about WC, because even Bruce Lee clearly stated these principles in The Tao of Gung Fu.
@Sifu-intraining
@Sifu-intraining Жыл бұрын
I agree with what your saying, this is where i think people see things that the video showed and things they see in mma matches aswell and confuse fighting with sport fighting. As you said the litlle deflections and then springing back is not something you would do you would be going into the man if you have the chance and trying to end the fight not for lack of a better term 'play around', but again this is just training so they might be working on something more specific.
@AshleyRiotable
@AshleyRiotable Жыл бұрын
Sorry guys, he's skills works better than yours and can work in MMA as well. Some principles of wing chun are outdated, and what this guy did is learn what is usefull and discord what does not work.
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 Жыл бұрын
None of prinicples are outdated, it is very hard to outdate prinicples
@briandunne2153
@briandunne2153 Жыл бұрын
Name the outdated principles of Wing Chun
@VanessaSalang
@VanessaSalang 5 ай бұрын
Im thinking where can I get a good quality mook jong.
@DGillian6406
@DGillian6406 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown and explanation!
@GranmastaChenChekka
@GranmastaChenChekka Жыл бұрын
@IzzoWingChun I am a JKD instructor, practitioner, a novice of WC and most of what you said I agree with you. Maybe not the way you said it, but the argument in itself i can see your point. Those were definitely not WC blocks or parries, they were barely parries at all. I agree that they should be like or should be strikes. I agree that a trap is a failed attack, as well as cutting through the limbs I agree. What I do see a little different is in the approach that you have at times as if it is all the JKD community who does this when it is those individuals that you're critiquing that are doing it. I say that respectfully, Thomas Marx does the same thing and I think he lacks any actual WC knowledge while doing it. Not all instructors teach the same, so you won't always get the same results. In other words to say JKD or Wing Chun guys/people should not put the entire community of the two on blast or chopping block. I think there is aspects that both can learn from the other making the individual a beteer fighter/martial artist. I think that the only way one can truly give a detailed analysis on things like this is if they studied and experienced both sides in their entirety then bring forth actual evidence to support their argument. Bruce had knowledge and experience, but not in the entirety of WC. His critique was based on his own experience through actual events, but never did he flat out disrespect WC or its community. Please keep doing what you're doing however because it's good to learn more from another perspective and one thing about me besides my title is I have no fear of correction especially when my goal is to learn more.
@tcbtcb7553
@tcbtcb7553 10 ай бұрын
Your best video, thank you.
@ryanmartin8435
@ryanmartin8435 4 ай бұрын
Moy Tung Kung Fu Family Georgetown- Houston Texas. Love your Lap Sou buy the way.
@pizzulo8111
@pizzulo8111 Жыл бұрын
I've never understood the whole Wing Chun vs JKD argument. Two completely different things. Sure, there's some things (not many) in JKD from Wing Chun, but let's be honest, these are very different arts. Depending on what lineage of JKD you learn, they are very different. There's the Seattle years where very little kicking was involved and was heavy on trapping. Then the L.A. JKD, which had high kicks and movie fighting aspects. Finally, there's what was pretty much Kickboxing with engaging and disengaging. Sport fighting. I would guess that the best street fighting version of JKD is the original, with no high kicks and heavy forward pressure with trapping. I think his L.A. years and on, were teaching actors (James Coburn, etc.) high kicks and cowboy punches mixed with straight punches that would look good on the big screen.
@winowarrior9392
@winowarrior9392 9 ай бұрын
I think the overall idea is the combination of both due to Lee's trajectory.
@bahmankam8405
@bahmankam8405 6 ай бұрын
I have done Karate, JKD some wrestling for over past 50 years. I was introduced to wing Chun 1975 based on books. Recently about a year ago followed wing Chun on you tube. I saw the basics (older video) all say the same like Sifu Sam Kwook and others showing the bridge, attacking constantly and every move going forward with a strike full body and stance energy. All evident in Sifu Fong teachings. Long story short, wing Chun for me is the basics with essential principles and enhanced in JKD with exploding out of static movements. I saw this in other Sifus teaching. Well done ✌🏽
@gw1357
@gw1357 Жыл бұрын
Singh's teacher was Paul Vunak, if I'm not mistaken.
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg
@AlbertoPerez-zu6wg Жыл бұрын
Yes he was
@ryanmartin8435
@ryanmartin8435 4 ай бұрын
And the elbow. That is the most devastating and effective blow. But it has to be quick and powerful. But it decimate every rib and vertibrate.
@ralphrobinson2373
@ralphrobinson2373 Жыл бұрын
The guy in the shades is not using forward energy. If the gumso would've moved forward he would be in position to interrupt the second punch.🎉
@mider9996
@mider9996 Жыл бұрын
Interesting insight, just smother the opponent so they can’t get off their tools like kicks, punching, etc. you're one of the few instructors on line who points the nuances of WC out.
@johnanthony6765
@johnanthony6765 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your analogy!!! Most people don't understand what Wing Chun is. Wing Chun is an aggressive art form. Energy forward! My instructor never retreats EVER!!! It is amazing. I've actually introduced it into Kali. I'm breaking rules. I was criticised. But I used true Wing Chun in Kali and I was dominating in sparting
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
My first teacher said wait and listen. The second teacher said move into range and my third teacher said double sticky hands for two or three seconds then hit them with a Sun fist. Fourth teacher taught me that chi Sao is a transition and you should hit your target. My first friend showed me to chi Sao and phon Sao then hit with a palm strike. My second friend just showed me to unload with the Jik Chun Choi.
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
My first Wing Chun teacher taught me that Yi ji Kim yeung ma is for training and should have the legs form a triangle and put your tailbone down and shoulders back and chin up. Chum Kil stance or the modified Wing Chun stance from either foot is taught in context to Jeet Kune Do Concepts from William Chung and Wong Shun Leung lineages.
@winowarrior9392
@winowarrior9392 9 ай бұрын
I am a nobody. I love how he breaks down the different styles based on the needed situation. I know, it's like one house vs another house, but I think all of this knowledge is priceless.
@universalredguard
@universalredguard Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
My main teachers were from Ip Man lineage, and Leung Sheung lineage. I was also taught by friends who new IP Chun lineage and two mentors who knew Ip Ching and Leung Ting Lineages.
@ryanmartin8435
@ryanmartin8435 4 ай бұрын
If I may. I am the school of Grand Master Moy tung. Moy yat. However you want to say it. I am under an amazing Si fu and Si Mo. They are good people. But after watching your videos. What do think? Not to leave it vague lol. My pac soa is amazing. A very useful tool.
@christopherkeech2795
@christopherkeech2795 Жыл бұрын
At 17:16 they show commitment to a side stance, the reason he lacks ,is structure in the chun when the tkd goes on about pary it should be like a rock hitting a pond not to disturb his core ,to disrupt his next movement , helps with dead energy n conditioning
@zeedthemohican8296
@zeedthemohican8296 Жыл бұрын
Some people confuse Philippine martial arts with WC, especially in JKD. But in fact, the two of them have completely different directions. In Philippine martial arts, they assume knives and strategize. So it makes sense for them to control their opponents' arms and hands. But WC? Why hit an unarmed opponent's arm and hand when fighting? Hit an owner who controls his arm. Unless we are out of form and applying concepts (especially forward pressure, shortest path attack, non-breakable bone structure), there is no need to force the two together.
@samsshaolin5890
@samsshaolin5890 Жыл бұрын
I agree. In striking the optimal next move is determined more so by your previous move, than your opponent's previous move. This is because each strike or block changes your bodies alignment, and you have to throw your next strike or block from that alignment before you have a change to reset because striking happens in miliseconds. Additionally, one block can absorb a thousand strikes, and one combo can split a thousand guards. Grappling is the opposite where the optimal next move is determined more so by your opponent's previous move, than your previous move. This is why striking has "styles proper" whereas grappling does not, because you have to use moves that fit together, and there is really no need to draw from the millions of striking techniques and dogmas that might clash with each other, when you can cover all your bases with a dozen techniques and dogmas that you know mesh together. JKD practitioners should ask themselves these questions in my opinion. Could I cover all the bases of striking with fewer moves? Do the moves I have in my arsenal generate structures that will clash with another move I have in my arsenal? Do the dogmas I maintain while fighting clash with other dogmas maintain while fighting? Do the dogmas I maintain while fighting clash with the moves in my arsenal? Does selecting the optimal move or dogma in a given situation eat into precious bandwidth that could be used for other means during a fight? Is there even an optimal move or dogma in a given situation when it seems that success begins and ends at just how good you are at one of the thousand of possible methods? Does believing that you do not have all the necessary tools available to win an altercation, and that your success will depend on you ability to conjure them up in real time, lower your confidence?
@nyclee9133
@nyclee9133 Жыл бұрын
people say donnie yen style is not real but he does hold the opponent and keep striking he did more than just chain punching
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, and Bruce wasn't even in master ip's top 3. (Technically wasn't even his student directly) Bruce was technically a student of wsl inside of ip man's school, who was one of his top students along with Sam kwok and chu shong tin.
@tcbtcb7553
@tcbtcb7553 10 ай бұрын
I have high respect to anybody that dedicates their life to martial arts. Everybody has their own path to walk in life.
@jarrodpelrine7229
@jarrodpelrine7229 Жыл бұрын
For me I'm grateful for my wing chun training to teach my body what it should and should not be doing and I'm also grateful for my jeet Kune Do training for when things get out of hand and I need to unleash some faster jaw smashing woop ass on someone trying to get the better of me in a sparing fighting type situation but that's just me
@Fahim_Lalani
@Fahim_Lalani 9 ай бұрын
❤excellent video
@Mr.International82
@Mr.International82 5 ай бұрын
I like Bruce Lee but to be honest I do think Bruce’s speed is what carried him as a lot as a martial artist.
@jcmultimedia4072
@jcmultimedia4072 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤ love wing Chun,
@dkcarey1
@dkcarey1 6 ай бұрын
I remember when I first started training WC years ago we had a JDK guy come to our school. I forget if we were doing chi sao, drilling, or what,.. but he'd do this weird flick of the wrist thing, and confused we all asked what he was doing. Said it was huen sao. I'm like "uh huh...that's great, but you didn't actually clear my arm, my fist is still pointed into your core". His elbows were wide out, and all kinds of stuff was off. We were all very nice to him but he never came back. You could tell it was because he became flustered at the details, and wanted to be free like water :) but certain details are there for a reason, not just for dogma. He came in wanting to show boat how great he was against WC guys, but none of his stuff worked, it was all feint type stuff. Before I get all the hate comments, I can't speak for all JKD guys, just about one particular guy who came in.
@ceemee1430
@ceemee1430 6 ай бұрын
I’m going right in MF. That’s how I was taught to fight and use WC Whatever to allot of the other stuff
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
Don't trap outside of the center line go in or trap into them with the mother line. Stop chasing hands and hit the target. Have fish eyes and don't get distracted.
@twooharmony2000
@twooharmony2000 Жыл бұрын
Consistant distinguishing--martial artist, fighter. Good stuff.-Ernie Moore Jr.
@LMFAS9528
@LMFAS9528 8 ай бұрын
at 32:50 he crosses his wrists (thats bad) ,turn n cut him off ,press and he's in a trap
@me82sjm
@me82sjm Жыл бұрын
Spent four years in wsl ving tsun, cross trained in twc a few times, now in jkd I know it's not a lot of time in wing chun but I'm only 23 however I've spent a lot of time reading, training and learning. Wing chun is my hyoerfixation Before jkd after wing chun I trained karate and aikijujitsu I believe wing chun when done with sparring and practiced with the right level of aggression along with an understanding of grappling is a beautiful effective system The jkd mechanics are a very good form of fighting but that is post Bruce Lee with the increased mix of fillipino martial arts which perfectly blend boxing with trapping I think jkd alone as Bruce Lee wrote focuses too much on trapping to block not to control Wing chun alone isn't focused on striking but because of this western modern view of striking and grappling arts being seperate it gets put to boxing and muay Thai and that's what Bruce did with it In jkd I have imeadietly advanced my skills in wing chun, boxing and karate because we learn so much about bridging and control I think the jkd community is what the wing chun community should be, the fighters who are ready to adapt and learn Its not something jkd invented its in the wing chun maxims But the wc community doesn't embrace it
@kungfujoe2136
@kungfujoe2136 Жыл бұрын
no offens but looks like wing chung is the counter to a lot of other martial arts (also to jkd)
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 Жыл бұрын
Well wing Chun was designed not only with "self defense" in mind but actual "martial" application as well, ie they were aware they might need to use it on soldiers/other trained fighters.
@DGillian6406
@DGillian6406 Жыл бұрын
Wing Chun is not a “counter” to any thing. The simplest way to explain it is: FEEL SPACE, MOVE FORWARD *It’s fast, violent, efficient and effective!
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
I would say that JKDS weakness is that it's too offensive focused and lacks defense. Wing Chun is designed backwards and so is Jeet Kune Do according to Adam Chan's Wing Chun channel. Siu Nim Tao and Chum Kiu has the best offense and Biu Jee and Mok Yan Joong has the best Defense for recovery in structure. The weapons are used for offense and defense. Bruce according to his own books new half of the Wing Chun system with all 3 empty hand forms with chi Sao and applications and sparring with the first two forms. JKD lacks defense from the dart finger and wooden dummy.
@tcbtcb7553
@tcbtcb7553 10 ай бұрын
I agree. I have seen the criticism of WC is by people that really do not know it. There is a big difference between really fighting, sparing, and sport competition. WC is designed for street survival. If I encounter a fighter that dances like Ali, I will simply run away, or grab a weapon to beat his ass. When you disengage in a fight this allows your opponent to pull out a weapon. WC is about street survival, not sparing, not competition.
@hound8881
@hound8881 Жыл бұрын
Don't get in a position to do a technique, Do a technique from the position your in. W.C. we don't swat bees away. We pac sau to hurt.😊
@sifpaulfernandezthewingchundao
@sifpaulfernandezthewingchundao 8 ай бұрын
I dont find him so bad, I don't necessarily agree with all this jkd sifu says, but he is rather talented which is good for jkd. I think the overall problem with jkd and comparing it with my own research cross training over many years is the main difference wing Chun displays compared to let's say jkd. Since I was 7 the TST system and my sifu Jim fung would ram down our heads nim lik and thought force projection in all the exercises we do... Highly enhancing our concentration and power body mechanics, It's not something you do as a sequenced format like for example in fighting sports... Chi Sao would develop that on a higher level bringing all components of the body into a ready state of action - reaction almost in a quasi meditative state.. I'm not saying it can't be achieved with jkd... But ive never seen any focus on this which is certainly a speciality in Wing Chun... If anything I've tried to bring this way of concentrating and generating energy into other systems. That's one thing that makes wc unique
@chozen0018
@chozen0018 Жыл бұрын
Iv been following u ten years lol that was one of the first videos i saw from you... then you popped up in like shos this guy u had gained like 20lbs of muscle lol
@TheMaverickunleashed
@TheMaverickunleashed Жыл бұрын
My Sifu teaches wing chun and JKD. He is amazing. They are just different forms of expression in combat. Good video Dom… Bruce Lee learned all three forms of wing chun and 60 movements on the dummy. Wong Sheung said Bruce was an amazing wing chun man… I also think the lie that a woman created wing chun has ruined the fight principles of wing chun. Chi Sao is the practice of Kinesthetic perception and awareness…
@Jae-eb8kw
@Jae-eb8kw 4 ай бұрын
Bruce lee had limited understanding of wing chun. Thats why he taught students in the name of Jun Fan Gung Fu then he again changed his style to Jeet Kun Do.
@JeffForsyth
@JeffForsyth 10 ай бұрын
Jkd itself is a concept. Longest weapon to softest target
@lovelife1867
@lovelife1867 4 ай бұрын
why just not use classic boxing and implement trapping.. use the best of the best, standing square works sometimes, but more times than not the person that stings like a bee and moves like a butterfly has the upper hand.
@johnanthony6765
@johnanthony6765 Жыл бұрын
I love Bruce Lee movies. However my Wing Chun instructor who has been studying Wing Chun for over 40 years. Bruce Lee only had a small time line in Wing Chun. 4 years. I'm no expert in Wing Chun, I train mostly train in Kali martial arts. My Wing Chun instructor who is in his 70s. I can't enter his defence empty handed!!!! Wing Chun is an amazing martial arts that works for others martial arts. I'm not being critical. All I can say is that real Wing Chun instructions is valuable!
@antesmolcic4354
@antesmolcic4354 10 ай бұрын
I never saw sunglasses in a training.
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
Wing Chun has throwing techniques introduced after Chum Kiu into Biu Jee and Mok Yan Joong.
@bahmankam8405
@bahmankam8405 6 ай бұрын
This I reckon is needing deeper insight into Wing Chun, learning real dynamism in it. Maybe other styles are more show off. I can't judge.
@andrewt8721
@andrewt8721 Жыл бұрын
Another informative lesson but lets talk Motorcycles while choofing on a Cuban cigar in the man cave.
@d3mist0clesgee12
@d3mist0clesgee12 Жыл бұрын
I agree, don't like JKD, I:m also a purest if you want a foundation for fighting. Best Swiss Army knife for combat, been using it for years as bouncer at Night clubs, strip clubs bars etc.
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 8 ай бұрын
Foot work is taught after Siu Nim Tao.
@webherring
@webherring Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking your neck out and taking on the big issues of our time! hahahaha I know it kinda sounds sarcastic, but I do mean it in a way. You're saying the quiet parts out loud. I wouldn't have the energy to deal with the argumentative aftermath.
@JohnMartin-jx1wz
@JohnMartin-jx1wz 11 ай бұрын
it is wu tai chi that klee used
@wailofoshan
@wailofoshan 6 ай бұрын
Add Spanish subtitles.
@eldonborreta3461
@eldonborreta3461 4 ай бұрын
Absorb what is useful disregard what is not useful theres no definite style formless style bruce lee🙃♥️
@Brandon123456magine
@Brandon123456magine Жыл бұрын
same concept in Okinawan Karate we don't block we strike.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne Жыл бұрын
On your t-shirt put very small "movies" under Kung Fu. This would be funny. I dont know why so many WC guys are so obsessed with JKD. JKD is so far away from WC. JKD has so much mpre from Fencing, Boxing and Savate than from WC. I think JKD is more close to real combat.
@tcbtcb7553
@tcbtcb7553 10 ай бұрын
Sifu Singh, is sparing, it is not street fighting here.
@sirojashuaviii2877
@sirojashuaviii2877 9 ай бұрын
Bruce lee was and still is the greatest martial artist there ever will be. But taking into account also every martial artist is great just gotta know how to use it to full potential and being consistent with it. If you’re talking about real heavy fighters its gonna be hard to compete against a skilled fighter no matter what martial arts they do.
@germancrespo2724
@germancrespo2724 8 ай бұрын
Simple look...if you practice MMA...is like you practiced jeet kune do...so what the hell man... remember Bruce Lee was an actor . making kung fu his own personal version...so...what the beef... after all..we all want to win..no matter how ..win is win ....thanks
@fistofthenorthstar9010
@fistofthenorthstar9010 11 ай бұрын
that soul patch is a wig. he can't grow hair. thats why no eyebrows
@thedadlife247
@thedadlife247 2 ай бұрын
honestly why does it matter? who cares
@WholeCosmos
@WholeCosmos 7 ай бұрын
let yourself go Bro. Eat and drink less ick hed. and I totally appreciate your old man status and perspective.
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