Why Lando Norris Is Losing Fans

[@Pseedholm]

People started turning on Russell when he slapped Valeri after Russell caused the accident. It has nothing to do with him going to @ Mercedes.

[@gameofender4463]

It was a 50-50 incident. Also (to put it mildly) Bottas was rude to George before George even touched his helmet. That probably contributed to it. Put yourself in George’s shoes. He’s just had a big incident with Valtteri at high-speed. Adrenalin is pumping and neither driver is thinking rationally. He goes over to Valtteri and Valtteri’s being rude to him. While I don’t agree with what George did, I can empathise and understand why in those exact circumstances it would’ve annoyed George.

[@fernando_chadlonso]

​@@gameofender4463That crash was clearly on George.

[@Gusfezio]

⁠@@gameofender4463yeah agreed the adrenaline of the moment drove him to do that, no hate on George. But it was not 50/50 come on. Definitely George had more fault on that incident

[@gameofender4463]

@@fernando_chadlonso Valtteri bears some responsibility for it too though.

[@gameofender4463]

@@Gusfezio I respect your different opinion. But imo, I think Valtteri moved late to push George onto the wet part of the track. Now, I can agree to a situation where George is more to blame but Valtteri had a lot to do with it as well. As, imo, it wasn’t entirely George’s fault.

[@1000petabytes]

C'mon Iceman Kimi was never so rude to other drivers no matter which team he was in.

[@Goon556]

That’s why kimi has no haters

[@Actul_Trap]

Kimi is also the rare case of drivers who don’t really have a big group of hater lmao

[@bigdicc9890]

He literally called Fernando Alonso a 'fcking joke' on radio, can't remember the year for it

[@spicychicken6015]

not only that, but his race craft is also clean as hell.

[@liukin95]

This is perfectly normal in F1, unfortunately. Senna had his haters. Schumacher had his haters. Vettel had his haters. As does Hamilton, as does Verstappen. The only difference now is that it's all in our faces on social media, and people with anonymous accounts can be as vile as they like and face no consequences.

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

I boldly agree with your comment, cheers.

[@enyaliosares4301]

Gods you couldn’t be more right. And those over excited fans/haters really need to have the last say.

[@maurizza3499]

*THIS!!!* 👆👆👆

[@trbling1303]

But Lando is nowhere NEAR as talented as the drivers you've named. He has thrown shade to many legends in F1 while not even being able to close the points gap to Max in 10 races which is just absurd. Making reckless mistakes while leading? It just proves the car is the one that does the job instead of the driver.

[@tfulookingat55]

@@trbling1303 Exactly. Even in Singapore where the car was literal leaps and bounds better than everybody else, there were still major mistakes that if changed by half a second or 3m could have ended his race

[@abird9387]

I think it's also got to do something with Lando growing up. Ever since debut, fans, media, and even other drivers treated him like a small child. Case in point when that famous F1 impersonator had a pacifier for his Lando bit, and even Ricciardo regularly pointing out how much younger Lando was than him when they were teammates, calling him "kid." I think it's a little belittling, and maybe that's why he's gotten a bit more defensive. He doesn't want to be known as the "funny gamer" driver. He wants to be taken more seriously as a potential champion.

[@xxczerxx]

Fredo Norris

[@Kuromori-v9z]

Maybe people would take him seriously and hate him less if he stopped trying to be funny, he is not and is just disrespectful.

[@sqweeps.03]

@@Kuromori-v9zhe can be known as a funny driver but also really good too.

[@Kuromori-v9z]

@@sqweeps.03 You can be funny and good, as proven by Vettel. Lando simply sucks at being funny.

[@JP-nn5ut]

@@Kuromori-v9z he’s an F1 driver not a comedian. Why’s it such a big deal if you don’t find him funny?

[@micahkiyimba8641]

He mocked Lewis for winning in the best car and now he's finding out it's not that easy. Those comments lost him respect. Also Piastri is more likable as a character

[@Dwh-h]

Lando is a spoilt brat. He always has been and now people are seeing him for what he is!

[@samkelo27]

​@@Dwh-h and him and albon will have actual competition from their teammates next season so I'm looking forward to see if they can both maintain their number 1 status within their teams.

[@TheVredeHunter]

New Ice man!

[@aishwarygaonkar4937]

Bang on! He lost respect for his ironic comments and the unnecessary shit talk

[@Reservemercedesdriver]

It was just a unnecessary comment like just forget it man, it's not really that deep

[@yourtallness]

Given how much of a mess I was until my thirties (now I'm in my forties), I think expecting maturity from 24 year olds is a bit unrealistic. They're still building character.

[@bwoah779]

I understand and agree with your point, but then again, compare Lando to his teammate in terms of maturity and performance under pressure. Oscar has less experience than Lando and is a year younger and yet, he acts in much calmer and more professional (more mature) way.

[@pppooppoo7763]

24 years is a lot of time to develop character

[@GloomGaiGar]

says a lot about your culture tbh

[@dlkr7769]

I agree. 24 yr olds don't even know enough about life yet to know how green they are. You learn that later.

[@SmoothPhoenix]

@@bwoah779 that's why they are different people , the only thing u should judge them is driving as that's what they are there for

[@aryotaheri7421]

Nah mate I think it’s just his personality. The weird comment to Lewis, mocking Max at his home race when you know damn well the only reason he’s not competitive is down to his car, and other weird comments and outbursts he’s had. The only difference is that when he used to say stuff like that, he was a quirky but talented kid in a team which wan’t at the front but was close and had potential. Now he’s your race/pole winner regularly with far more opportunities for doing stuff like that but also in a position that often comes with expectations of dignity and sportsmanship. It’s one thing to be brutal on the track, all champions have that. But most of them are lovely people out of the car (think Vettel, Lewis, Max, Michael). But to be a c^nt off the track or out of the car, and be in a position to be the face of the sport is what’s doing it for him

[@loseweightusingketo]

Imagine mocking two of the greatest of all time. Especially when he knows very well how badly he'll be exposed if he ever fights with them in similar machinery.

[@066kshitizvsingh4]

You used the 2 worst instances did you. The Comment to Lewis. Adrenaline + Depression + Rage after losing a race, you should've won because your team messed up. People have had worse reactions. The Max one.... You're overreacting. Max doesn't care about it. Plus, he started to trademark "Simply Lovely" prior to Zandvoort. It likely was a joke between friends. If you really want a comment made by him to piss you off, at least use the one he made on stream after Singapore. That sucked According to most people Lando is one of the most well liked people on the grid. One can't be a piece of shit and be liked right??

[@notCopium]

@@066kshitizvsingh4 1. Still no reason to disrespect a 7 (or 8) x WDC 2. Funny how he only did this "joke" at Max's home race and not the other 2, and just because "max is fine with it" doesn't make it less disrespectful

[@DarthVader-ig6ci]

I guess the problem is with his attitude, how he talked about Vettel previously and the post race comments to Lewis. After the Dutch GP he mocked Max by making a snark use of Max's previous comment.A dominant car and sudden ability to win races has really brought out his arrogant side and he's taking jabs at other drivers like they're some backmarkers.

[@mlz_c]

he an seb are friends, they have sarcasm between eachother

[@Kasum_ish]

I thought he had said somethung awful to Vettel but from what I've seen it's just people taking too much to heart when he jokingly said "he should focus on driving" after Vettel nerded out on grill the grid. How was he saying simply lovely mocking Max, who is may I remind you, his friend?Seriously you people have no sense of humor (or even try to differentiate what's a joke from what's not from context) and the generational gap is really apparent in this one. I get criticizing his driving skills but some people are hating on him because he's gen z and you guys just can't understand young people.

[@jasonlove9172]

When Leclerc was winning in 2022, most people did not turn on him. The turning point for me was when he said he wouldn't be friends with Max if he didn't apologise after Austria. He is also consistently underplaying other driver's achievements such as when Max won with the safety car in Canada when other drivers supported him.

[@pro_grapist]

Leclerc was getting a lot of shit for not having the killer instinct, crumbling under pressure (when he crashed out of a lead in a race in 2022, i don't recall which race it was), for not overruling his race engineers orders when those orders are shit and so on. People were literally saying that Leclerc is not championship material just like they are saying that about Lando now. Just ordinary hater stuff. Also, you got butthurt for a comment he made right after a very stressful race where he got taken out of the race and denied a win, when himself later admitted that he was too emotional at that moment and didn't really mean to say what he said, and that he and Max have talked about it in private and sorted it all out and they continue to be friends. "Turning point" lmao, you are exactly the kind of people that he talks about in this video, you start hating on a driver as soon as he becomes competitive and starts showing his more competitive, emotional side.

[@reyman468]

You are so on point!

[@rohrbrot4563]

And he thinks he's incredibly funny when he's just disrespectful and unfunny. Every interview he does is a completely different level of shame.

[@2rf346]

He never said he wouldn’t be friends with max after the incident, he said he would lose a lot of respect. Completely different things

[@dangraycon]

He said this immediately after getting out of the car with a microphone pointed at his head, while the media tried to provoke him. He then took back his statements and they are good friends again. If Max is cool with it, why does everyone seem to hate him for it?

[@galaxypanda1288]

People don’t like him now because of the jabs he’s taken at Max and Lewis equally. Lewis has 7 championships , Max has 3. Lando has 3 career race wins all this season. He is not and cannot act like he is on their level until he actually wins a championship.

[@Orcawhale1]

Stated by a American teenager, with a panda as a profile pic, who tries to peddle NFT's... Seriously, what is with you younglings and your incessant need to give your opinion on things, which you don't understand.

[@stupidmemes3955]

@@Orcawhale1 no i think me and all norris fans would also agree. he hasnt takn jabs at max, but some comments toward lewis havent been his nicest. usually its his humor, but what he said to lewis was either intentional, or some dumb words in the heat of the moment.

[@louistran2604]

@@Orcawhale1 Or do you not understand? It's his opinion, if you found it not true, just correct him, not insult him.

[@Orcawhale1]

@@louistran2604 I understand it perfectly. We have a bunch younglings, who's suddenly got into F1 because it's popular(DTS). And now, you've deluded yourself into thinking "Oh i can actully speak on these matters". When you so clearly have no idea, what you are talking about. Which would be fine, if you just kept it to the closed communties. But no, now every piece of F1 media is fileld with these ridiculous theories and just nonsense....

[@galaxypanda1288]

@@Orcawhale1 Literally what are you on about? 1) you couldn’t possibly know my age nor my nationality and 2) peddling nfts? Did it ever occur to you that maybe I just like the drawing?

[@tigerpjm]

Lando said "anyone" could have driven Lewis's MB to several WDCs which just made him look petulent. The fact he doubled down on it years later on his first opportunity with Lewis in the colldown room just seemed to confirm it. That said, I still like the guy. It's not like Lewis or Max have ever been petulent, is it?

[@Leftistsareevil]

He wasn't wrong tbf bottas was just slow and coupnt challenge

[@Franceee___]

I’m probably one of the few fans he’s left (aside from the fangirls), simply because I couldn’t just turn away from a driver I’ve always like since 2019 just because of a couple sentences he said in the heat of the moment, and he’s started to prove me right since he’s already changed his tone and praised Lewis a lot lately showing that he’s learning from his mistakes. I don’t care if he isn’t as fast or as polite as other drivers, he’s this goofball who I’ve liked since the beginning and I don’t see myself changing my opinion on him for now.

[@aniet1641]

Do you still stand by these words ?

[@Franceee___]

@ Wdym? I still believe in him, he’s definitely made mistakes he’ll learn from this year. If you were referring about the hate speech I think it’s not unusual and drivers have always been harsh to each other especially when fighting for titles, but that doesn’t mean I condone it it’s still hate speech after all. And lastly if you’re wondering about the respect I have for him, then yeah he’s lost some, but if he can keep winning then I don’t have a problem with his egocentric attitude, drivers are firstly drivers, they’re in F1 to win and become world champions they shouldn’t give a shit about our opinions and just think about winning, and if he can do that in the future, especially from the next season, then yeah I would still stand by my initial statement.

[@cosmicvcosmic]

He gained an ego after 1 race win, he started acting like he was a World Champion

[@issammelzi728]

I don't know about everyone else, but it has nothing to do with lando winning or having the fastest car or anything. It's simply the fact that the guy doesn't act right, saying things like "he should focus on driving" to vettel or zanvoort post race radio or hamilton in the cooldown room. I don't hate him per se but I certainly think there's a plethora of other drivers that deserve the title more thanks to their performances and the car they're in

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Lando hasn’t said anything as bad as other drivers like Alonso and Lewis.

[@whatakon]

"He should focus on driving" was clearly a joke. It was a bit clumsy and fell kinda flat, sure, but I never understood why that was such a big deal for people.

[@issammelzi728]

​​​@@whatakon because you don't say stuff like that as someone with 4 wins to someone with 4 TITLES Edit : i think norris has 3 not even 4 wins and at the time it was 0

[@whatakon]

@issammelzi728 But it's not serious, so what does it matter? I'm sure it didn't bother Vettel, he doesn't need you to defend him. I just don't understand why people care so much.

[@magnustan841]

Not really the winning, more like he’s developed an attitude problem and in interviews and stuff, he’s always so sulky and behaves like he doesn’t want to be there, even his post-race celebrations, or lack thereof. I honestly don’t know if he even wants to go for the championship this year. Maybe Oscar is putting more pressure on him than we realise and it’s affected his mood, fan and media scrutiny? Gone were the days of the jolly, funny kid whose personality you just couldn’t help but get on board.

[@FulsomeMcGinley]

Quite so.

[@pro_grapist]

This is ridiculous. Just a couple comments down there is a guy hating on Lando for being too confident and cocky and literally saying that he needs to tone down his celebrations and keep low profile. And you are hating on him for the exact opposite things. You people are the worst.

[@jamie_michelson]

@@pro_grapist I dont see any hate in his comment, just stuff he seems to have observed and tbh I can kinda agree with the op here. It seems like Piastri is putting a ton of pressure on Lando, pressure he never really felt before in his F1 career

[@dangraycon]

F1 drivers are not allowed to have emotions I guess. Imagine losing in a race you expected to win, and having a microphone pointed at your face as soon as you get out of the car

[@FulsomeMcGinley]

@@dangraycon I’m not sure that is what the original video was getting at. The point you are alluding to is quite reasonable in the circumstances you describe. If you look at some of the other stuff, for example the ‘grill the grid’ promotional activities and the like, you’d think that they had his family locked up somewhere.

[@bernisart]

I think the pressure on Norris is just under too much pressure for him to handle. He suddenly became a championship contender midseason without much experience being a front runner. Additionally he has to compete with Max, Charles and even Oscar (or rather Mclaren before Baku). Lando helped build up this team for some years and now gets his shot for the title but has to fight off everyone else plus has one of the most competetive teammates on the grid and the situation in Hungary was just poorly handled where he had given away a cruical win to Oscar and it ended in something like Monza which cost them alot imo.

[@user-ri9dn4vi6i]

I get this argument but you're practically saying he isn't WDC material. Part of what makes a champion a champion is their mental strength. And he's got it relatively easy considering he's got the entire british media on his side, something most others never had.

[@calebhernandez4233]

Agree, max had several years where he could fight for the odd win, get experience at the front, but never really had a chance at a championship, and even then, when his first battle came (2021) he made a ton of mistakes. Lando did not even get front running or race winning experience before being thrown into the best car with expectations of him winning a championship before he had even won a race. This led to a bunch of mistakes that are more scrutinized because it wasnt for the odd P1 or podium, its now a championship battle. That combined with people looking for someone to hate, and this whole thing has come about

[@bernisart]

@@user-ri9dn4vi6i I agree that it undermines Lando‘s quality as a driver yet I do think that this new level is a chance for him to develop. I think it‘s similar to Rosberg vs. Hamilton back in 2016. Nico admitted later on he went all out to beat Lewis as the current dominant force and it had an immense impact on his mental health. Therefore I hope he gets back to his old attitude when he gets used to this environment he finds himself in right now.

[@ThekingCR7-wi6et]

​@@calebhernandez4233He showed that in the dominence in Singapore that he has improved because this whole season the one thing he struggled with was being under pressure when starting on Pole position but now he's showing that he can prosper under pressure and can start like leading the whole race in and out with a gap of 22 seconds is diabolical he could've ended the race with a 25 to 30 second gap and a fastest lap but he slowed down for some reason

[@metalpiston1212]

Hamilton was a championship contender in his very first year againts a defending champion teammate in McLaren. Max won his first race with red bull. He got lucky with the merc crash of course, but he did an almost flawless race. He also dominated the first half of 2021 when RB was the fastest car. Meanwhile Lando did 3 mistakes in Singapore that could've ended his race, while leading with 20 second gap in by far the fastest car. Not to mention other countless errors this season. Your point just proves that Norris is not on the same caliber because he couldn't handle the pressure you get from driving a front-runner car.

[@adamwalpole1180]

I prefer Piastri over Norris. He’s so much more likeable.

[@PauluzP]

Piastri is also much better lol

[@AgentUltimate7]

There is something about Piastri lack of emotional reaction that really makes me like him a lot.

[@FormulaMotorsports1st]

nah u lot are yapping

[@loseweightusingketo]

He's also better.

[@candletabletop154]

he's bland

[@BassPlayTV]

Same as with George, as soon as they got to the front, they started to believe they are something better suddenly and both got very arrogant and unlikeable

[@LNF124]

I've been a norris fan since he joined f1 and I'm happy af now, but it's sad seeing the hate drivers get not just norris all of them from max, lewis ect I don't understand why its become so toxic

[@Limegreenedragon]

Social media and Drive to Survive. Look no further than these two

[@jameshenderson3687]

⁠@@Limegreenedragonabsolutely right mate. I can’t stand watching dts personally but I’m glad it exists purely because of the amount of fans it’s brought to the sport. On the other hand the fans it has created are absolutely clueless half the time and you see it in every comment section😂

[@quigglyz]

All sports have toxic fans.

[@untitledtitle503]

Like Lando fans aren't crazy af

[@LNF124]

@untitledtitle503 every driver has crazy fans, I just don't understand the amount of hate all drivers get

[@stankytony5325]

it's not about the car change or whatever, it is just what he is as a person, look how he mock Vettel years ago in grill the grid where he says Vettel should focus more on driving, at that time you have 0 poles and 0 wins and less podiums than Vettel's world champions, and now you did the same to Lewis, the same to Verstappen. Where they are world champions at the same age where you don't even have a win. Don't take it personally Norris fans, these are just facts.....Even though facts hurts.

[@kinder.surprise567]

Why are you taking everything so seriously? He can make a few jabs, nobody’s a saint. See Hamilton name on Diddy’s list of guests.

[@ashworld1016]

I started disliking him way before, when he told the enginner to shut up instead of pitting and lost the win.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Lando has proven to be the #1 driver, as the points and quali record unequivocally indicate. Oscar being #2 for the rest of 2024 doesn’t mean he will be to start 2025. This situation is a no brainer

[@keonxd8918]

The comments he made about lewis and Max left a bad taste in my mouth. Both of them congratulate him for his first win and have supported him ever since he debuted in 2019. And this is how he treats them both?

[@DailyWVideos]

Oh no he made 1 or 2 not so amazing comments about them, then why is Max still friends with Lando you guys are taking this way more personally than Max and Lewis are

[@joelwilliam6216]

Piastri has a higher ceiling for me. Killer instinct, no expectation of getting help, super calm, and from what I’ve seen this year, more skill! I would let them fight until it’s mathematically impossible for one to win the DC, then that person does all to help the team and their teammate.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

The same nonsense after Lando destroys him by 40s. Piastri is like Sainz. Better than the number 1 driver for like 5-6 races, everyone says he’s the better driver. But overall gets dominated across a season. 😂

[@joelwilliam6216]

@@paperplane-db8qf that's just this race, not saying Lando is sh*t, just that I don't think the gap between then right now is that big, and Piastri will probably win more C's in my opinion. I saw a stat in the last day or so that since the McLaren has been flying, and the Red Bull has been a tank, Lando has only closed the DC margin on Max by a few points. I suppose that would be since Barcelona

[@066kshitizvsingh4]

Yeah and then none of them wins WDC(like a certain team in 2007) and you can potentially lose points for WCC like in Monza. There's a reason teams have had no1 and no2 drivers and utilize team orders. It may be "bad racing" but its "common sense to maximise points"

[@p3t3r_waffles]

people seem to forget that F1 is a top sport, where they compete for huge prizes, glory, fame. this isn't a show, its not scripted, these are humans competing at the pinnacle of motorsport. they're going to play mind games with achother, they're going to do whatever it takes to win. not everyone is going to be friendly with everyone, and not everyone is going to play nice. that's how it is, that's how its always been, and that's how it always will be. modern F1 fans would not have survived the old days of F1

[@Dhurumia10]

F1 fans in general are very moody. And then, Lando himself, being one of the contenders, is now under a lot more spotlight, combining that with the fast car and his DOTDs despite Verstappen outdriving him. That was when the hatred spiked. Plus, Lando himself got unlucky in some places but unlike the other champions on the grid, he expresses much more anger which makes it worse, particularly cuz Lando himself does not have the record of a Lewis or a Max or even a Leclerc. You combine all these factors with the fact F1 fans might be some of the worst in all of sports, it was bound to happen. The hatred's annoying and extreme at this point but it was always like this. Drivers like Seb had it the worst except social media had less presence and he had a champion record.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Well Verstappen got DOTDs in 2016 and 2017 when Ricciardo was out driving him.

[@sebastianaranamadrid22]

Vettel fue tiltado muchas veces de cosas similares a Lando en sus inicios en 2009-2010 con RB, hasta que no fue campeon casi por suerte en 2010, que Vettel comenzo a ser valorado. La diferencia es que ahora todo es tan mediatico y con redes sociales, que cuando un piloto falla o demuestra falta de experiencia, o su equipo falla, todos opinan y dicen lo que sienten, y se generan grandes comunidades de opinion que alfinal generan una tendencia, que mucha veces de convierte en odio excesivo, o adoracion excesiva hacia un piloto. Es cosa de ver como juzga la gente ciertas acciones en pista dependiendo que piloto la haga, seamos honestos.

[@tubularcandy812]

I just dont like how Norris started to change after Miami. He got so arrogant acting like he is a multiple champion since Miami.

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

Just not true is it.....🤦

[@liukin95]

Oh FSS, get over yourself!

[@Kyr0SpaceCadet]

@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 how can you say an opinion isnt true? lando said some childish stuff going on about shoulda coulda woulda. if fans dont like that thats up to them. personally i dont care, drivers are always gonna say what furthers their argument and their career but if people dont like thats thats up to them.

[@Gusfezio]

Tbh I have seen it happening since at least 3 years. About since when Carlos left McLaren

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

@@Kyr0SpaceCadet they're not claiming it as opinion they're claiming it as fact.

[@fischflossn]

What makes Lando Norris the obvious choice for Nr. 1 driver is the fact that hes not only that bit faster than oscar, I think its mostly because he was loyal for 5 years

[@Actul_Trap]

Yeah, from Mclaren’s end it’s a huge mistake not to prioritize Lando when he is in an actual title battle. It is completely not Oscar Piastri’s fault at all because he’s simply racing, there were never any orders from Mclaren to prioritize Lando.

[@smellymewi]

I just dont like Norris not because of his recent behavior in the past year but more of in 2021 when he constantly lashed out at his race engineer at Sochi. That race alone really soured my perspective of Norris.

[@exiledcapybara1690]

Max does that all the time too when he’s under pressure it’s that we havent seen that these days because he’s matured as a driver. Idk why f1 fans cant do that for lando, maybe because we are so impatient

[@066kshitizvsingh4]

​@@exiledcapybara1690Bro Max has done it this season man

[@TheVredeHunter]

I was indifferent to him, then the way he treats Hamilton is really not cool to me. Hamilton is always nice to the guy and compliments him, but he just brushes it off, and is disrespectful. Oscar is the Cool McLaren Driver.

[@shariqikram5832]

F1 fans lose something every 15 minutes that's why nobody takes them seriously Nothing new 💀

[@sviniciusbraga]

Having the best car puts Lando under the spotlight and more often than not, he doesn't perform like he needs to. Combined with his arrogant moments and his fanbase overrating him, it leads to a lot of people disliking him at the very least ( like my case ) and even hate. So far McLaren had the best car in more races than Red Bull did and they've been competitive everywhere, unlike Mercedes and Ferrari which flip-flop between competitive and best of the rest.

[@ThekingCR7-wi6et]

If he is arrogant did u see his reaction in Singapore yesterday he didn't look like he won a race with a 22 second gap he only smiled and threw a fist in the air

[@sviniciusbraga]

@@ThekingCR7-wi6et I didn't say he's arrogant all the time

[@purpledahlia1969]

Lando won by a country mile in Singapore. He didn't crow or over celebrate. He was calm and measured on the radio and in the interviews. There are people who cannot bear to see success. They support you when you are the underdog then chop you down when you start to be successful. This is tall poppy syndrome. When Daniel Riccardo was joining McLaren he was terribly disparaging of Lando, pretending it was just jokes. No one hated him for it. Now so-called fans are turning on Lando for far less "crimes". It's not justified and is terribly unfair.

[@zachdoran10]

he also came extremely close to crashing out, it was pure luck that he didn't

[@purpledahlia1969]

@@zachdoran10 And??????

[@errikos9968]

@@zachdoran10what does that have to do with what was said?

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@zachdoran10there is no luck, he was on the limits. He could’ve driven like Piastri and finished 20s behind Max.

[@aerohydra3849]

@@zachdoran10 Like max once said, if my mother had balls she would be my dad. A lot of very good F1 drivers like Seb and Max also made an oopsie and come close to crashing out (or do crash out in the case of Vettel and Leclerc).

[@linuss.7349]

It’s his fans. You see it with games, series, movies and even people. Lando didn’t really change. Yes he maybe did really small things here and there but it was basically nothing. And of course he is a bit more competitive but thats basically every f1 driver. His fans on the other hand treated him like the second coming of Jesus Christ. Best example is the first driver privilege. He never said (at least publicly) that he wants it….his fans on the other hand went crazy (he is the best driver ever, he is so much better than oscar, he deserves a bottas etc) about it and it kind of painted the picture for people that he so desperately wants first driver treatment.(Well he probably wants it but as I said never really said it directly in public ….but people often connect their emotions they have towards a Fangroup with the thing they are fans of).I think lando is a great example of how fans of a person can influence the image or how this person is viewed by the broader audience. The mind makes a connection with the behavior of the fans and the behavior of lando While I agree that succes feeds hate….I don’t think that’s necessarily the reason why lando is hated right now. Than max would be way more hated right now because he dominated for so long and people would celebrate his potential loss of the drivers championship

[@mutleyeng]

exactly the same for every driver fanbois. No way are Leclerc, vestappen, Hamilton, Piastri, Ricciardo fanbois any better in the slightest

[@NaadiyaShafraz]

Mate I understand what ur saying but u can’t really judge his fans I am a huge fan of Lando but I think that Lando and Oscar each shine in different ways. But the type of fans that u are describing really are causing him to lose fans. I’m sure that other drivers are struggling with that same issue. Also, some people might be upset with the way Lando has matured in a way. Thank you for your time.

[@linuss.7349]

@@NaadiyaShafraz yeah you are right. Maybe I should have said it in a better way. Of course I don’t mean every lando fan. But the certain type of fans I described are pretty loud right now which creates this issue (how big this part of his fans are actually like this is hard to say…but I have to say that it looks to me like there is a decent amount)

[@NaadiyaShafraz]

@@linuss.7349 u r rite mate. so many of my friends are like how u described. but thanks for understanding :)

[@anthonydukamp430]

Brit here and I 100% agree Lando has not proven hes #1 over Piastri at this time. Maybe a little weird they didnt swap the cars in the last lap of Monza seeing as they both still get a podium (no issue with the overtake at the start)

[@michaeldellorso889]

Why not? 15-3 in quali and up 42 pts. Not domination, but need to support the lead driver in a title race.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

And Leclerc has not proven he’s number 1 over Carlos. But at the end of the day only one driver can win the title.

[@aerohydra3849]

I completely disagree. I think Lando is being held to unrealistic expectations considering he's beat Oscar in qualifying 15-3, has a 40+pt lead over him, and has been by far the bigger threat to Max. Would you say the same thing about Charles and Carlos? Or, heck Alonso and Stroll? Because both of those have more even qualifying h2hs than Lando vs Oscar.

[@manishapadave8390]

As an NEUTRAL F1 fan: This is for all the toxic fans Lando, when he had his first win had a cocky attitude but as the season progressed his attitude went from cocky to " yeah it was a good race we had some issues but we did it" attitude. He is becoming more humble as the races are happening. Frustration is a normal thing to happen to everyone, lando has frustration so as max and so as any other driver on the grid. Lando gave the comment to lewis in the heat of the moment. As a sane human being, i thought it was due to frustration and nothing else. His nerves are lot more calmer nowadays. The off Track is dramatic with many people coming and going out of the teams, on track is also heated between max and lando. As lando has pressure to close the gap before Abu Dhabi. Its just the Toxic fans of F1 that saw their chance to ruin the spirits of the sport again, Toxic fans where there during 2021 and now arising in 2024. Can't we all leave aside our biases and just appreciate the driving and enjoy the drama. We only gain some sensory pleasure of our fav driver winning a race/ championship. Always remember that F1 is a kind sport where multimillionaire drive for multibillionaire watched by mostly poor people. just fkn enjoy the race, if you can't then just shut ur mouth

[@milseq]

Piastri is killing it! Way more humble and likeable than Lando.

[@lowi5630]

Reasons i lost respect for Norris: #1 Showing the finger unnecessarily often, despite having bottled more wins and starts than not! #2 Lewis giving him a compliment in the Hungary cooldown room and him coming at Lewis for no reason! #3 Him saying "its only Maxes fault, im not at fault, he has to come and apoligize or else the friendship is done" in Austria #4 Unnecessary "simply lovely" at Maxes home GP #5 Max driving past him after the Azerbaijan GP, congratulating him and showing a thumbs up for his awesome recovery drive... Norris first reaction: reporting him to the FIA via team radio "Verstappen just overtook under VSC, there is still VSC no?" I used to like him, i used to think he is a good driver! Turns out he is a overrated chronic bottler that is toxic towards those who compliment and congratulate him!

[@GrizeldaOConnor]

I wonder what the real atmosphere and behaviour is towards Oscar? He always ignores him if they are both on the podium. Oscar is a strong guy emotionally and mentally so hopefully doesnt sweat Landos nastiness and put downs. Very spoilt and jealous person is Lando

[@As-qz5lr]

The Piastri move worked because Lando had to lift, because he was thinking of the WDC and WCC. Had Norris braked as late as possible it would have risked a collision. In the end Leclerc managed to get into 2nd, bring himself in contention of winning and won. Piastri has shown that he is not fast enough yet to match Norris which is why McLaren MUST back Norris.

[@le_enforcer]

Lol. Lmao.

[@ResolvezDubstep]

Man as a 3rd generation McLaren fan and a big fan of Lando i was so fucking happy for him and the team they got the win and the biggest comeback in 10 years. From 2017 and onwards it were harsh times for us man, and now you got DTS fans with no knowledge but a lot of opinions ruining the driver and teams effort and possible Legacy. Nah we don't stand for that, as a fanbase, we could and should do better.

[@il-ma.le.]

There's an active hunt for someone to hate, and this guy apparently is who you'd pick for a fight because he would be easy to win against. It's opportunism. Period .

[@Orcawhale1]

Bingo and it's so obvious to see in the comments. What's even more ridiculous is that most of them don't even watch the sport. They just want to pile on, because what spineless teenagers do.

[@dooddoodd]

Lando Norris need to start respecting others

[@errikos9968]

Watch just one of his interviews in Singapore respecting Lewis respecting Max saying how he looked up to them

[@optimusprime028]

@@errikos9968 He Backtracked. That's PR for you mate.

[@rars0n]

I don't have much issue with Lando. In fact, this season has made me respect him a lot more, and he's done a good job of showing his depth and high level of skill as a driver (with the one exception being his tendency to botch starts from pole position, which he has mostly done a good job of recovering from this season). If anything, I think he needs more of that attitude that top-tier drivers have. Lando is far too often overly harsh on himself in a way that sometimes feels downright depressing. I feel like lately he's curtailed that somewhat, but for a while there it seemed like he was beating himself up over everything, even after relatively good race results. That's definitely not the attitude you want your #1 driver to have the majority of the time.

[@Lud_sa]

It’s funny how the people who are saying they prefer Piastri over Lando don’t understand they are proving the point. He is currently the innocent kid punching from below. I’m sure people will “lose respect” for him as well once he starts having more incidents related to pushing for the competitive edge and saying things in affect. All drivers do this, if you think differently you are simply not well informed.

[@lllouise9]

Tbh, any driver being favored by the british media turns me off. I don't hate them, but I can't bring myself to support them either esp knowing that they will always be favored by the media, f1 commentors, biased fans and drive to survive. Austrailan drivers tho can be favored if they win and not a teammate of a british driver (Daniel Ric) because of the history of Austrailia (just look at the flag). Alex Albon talked about this, he's only half british when he does well, and thai if he's doing okay or not so good in races. It tells you all about the british favoritism/bias in this sport. Adrian Newey touched on this subject as well and brought up the bias against Max.

[@lil6462]

I agree. I definitely feel like the British bias is contributing a lot to the Lando Norris hate and I can’t blame the fans.

[@heartsallover]

​@lil6462 I mean, half half. I think the half of it is because of Lando himself being a jackass to Max and Lewis. You can be a jackass but you've got to back it up with pure talent and that's why people don't like him. Max, Fernando, Seb, all the other champions can be boastful if they want to because they have the talent to back it up. Lando can not even dominate in the fastest car. He's been disrespectful to Max and the final straw was the "simply lovely" one. Jokes are ok but claiming everything as your own when you know that someone is already being bullied by the media and the fans is just downright disrespectful, esp to someone who calls you their "friend". It may not be a big deal, but if it's done to you or your close one, you know how disrespectful things are.

[@DoorTechnicianRick]

Mclaren fans are underdog fans, but now that they aren't underdogs anymore their fans are having an identity crisis

[@FS-me8mj]

max verstappen was hated before 2021 and is hated after 2021. But I can sense the mclaren bias in you.

[@daveruda]

And its all because of how he has conducted himself on track.

[@zachdoran10]

⁠​⁠@@daverudapeople who don't like how verstappen goes racing, have never driven a car in their life.

[@mutleyeng]

My dear boy, it is only right and proper to have a Mclaren bias. Ferrari are for balding middle aged men having a mid life crisis - and Red Bull make fizzy drinks

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@zachdoran10almost the entire F1 grid has problems with how Verstappen races.

[@daphnelovesL]

@@paperplane-db8qf who?

[@gameofender4463]

I like Lando. But I think the thing is that he has made so many mistakes. That it feels like he’s failing upwards/failing into a championship. He’s had good drives don’t get me wrong. But his list of mistakes far exceeds his list of victories/races that were done to the best of his ability. It’s like, he can make these mistakes but it’s ok because there’s always next race. And yet other drivers have had to be near perfect to even get close to winning a championship.

[@TheSt1092]

It's literally his first attempt at trying to championship sometimes it doesn't happen happen . Ncco Rosberg , Kimi Raikkonen and even Lewis were all made until the 2nd or 3rd attempts.

[@gameofender4463]

@@TheSt1092 But drivers like Lewis were more consistent at their first real attempt. Max too.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Still handling Oscar, who is a borderline top five driver

[@michaeldellorso889]

@@gameofender4463yes, but he isn’t as good as Max or prime Lewis.

[@gameofender4463]

@@michaeldellorso889 Oscar’s not top five yet. And Lando isn’t top five either.

[@pkbroarmaldo7]

Lando has the nerve to talk smack about world champions when he has 3 career wins. His attitude started in canada, he became more and more of a sore loser, then the hamilton cooldown room incident, then austria incident. His ego is mega inflated now that he has more than 1 race win. Him and his fangirls have become so insufferable you have so many people on the internet coming together to hate on lando.

[@Maartwo]

Always disliked Lando despite everyone glazing him. Now that he's being successful he's showing why I never liked him. I don't like Lewis but the way he disrespected him in the cooldown room was crazy, as well as the radio message after the race in Holland.

[@sharthakghosh970]

He even disrespected Seb of all people, in one of those F1 TV events, he said, "he should focus on driving" after Seb beat all the drivers in that quiz round. He has disrespected Ricciardo too on multiple occasions, the gaslighting kind. Ricciardo being Ricciardo never really reciprocated in the same way.

[@Morkins324]

The cooldown room was after the Hungarian Grand Prix, which was a shitty and frustrating day for him and McLaren in general. It was a race where the team told him to give up 7 points in a Championship where he is most likely going to need every single available point. He knew that he was going to have days where he wasn't perfect. He knew that there would be races where Verstappen was going to be close to or ahead of him. And his team kind of screwed him on that. Now, you can make the argument that Piastri had earned the win and was only behind because of strategy, but that has never stopped other teams in the past from making business decisions to prioritize the driver that is ahead in the championship. And Lando certainly hasn't capitalized on every opportunity to maximize his own position, but there are very few championships where a driver races truly flawlessly throughout the entire season. Especially a driver that has never had a car that was legitimately competing for race wins prior. Verstappen had multiple years of being a scrappy driver that frequently made mistakes before he managed to put together a Championship season. And in terms of being salty in the cooldown room or making jabs on the radio.... Lewis has had his fair share of moments exactly like that. So has Verstappen. So has Alonso. So did Vettel. So did Schumacher. Do you dislike all of them? Because literally every single one of them has done far worse than what you are holding against Lando.

[@michaeldellorso889]

At least he has been consistent in his opinion that Lewis is overrated. He seems to dislike Lewis.

[@dooddoodd]

@@michaeldellorso889and now people dislike him lol

[@purpledahlia1969]

@@Morkins324 His mistake was being salty to Saint Lewis

[@allthingsbrightandybeautif1233]

I have accepted every in-race and post-race jabs that lando made since it's most probably is because of adrenaline but today, while streaming and not really much adrenaline, he still acted like a child. norris : "toto wolff issues health update on hamilton and russell? fuc***g hell, it’s tough for everyone. why do they think that they’ve...everyone’s got heatstroke if they’ve got heatstroke.." "maybe they're unwell you dont know their situation bro" (big up this guy) norris : "no they dont know mine"

[@sheldoniusRex]

A lot of people in our culture just hate winners. That's why they hated Vettel. That's why they hate Max. And some of those people liked drivers like George and Lando because those two spent so long in mid or worse machinery, but kept their chin up. They now feel betrayed by Lando because they wanted him to be the underdog forever, but he isn't. Oscar will never betray people like that because he came in swinging. But those people would hate Oscar anyway because he excels.

[@pasztorferenc6741]

My respect to Lando jumped really high after position swap in Hungary. I know people think it other way, but it showed me his good side

[@BigBreadBoi]

That’s when I started losing respect for him. Yes it was the right thing to do, but his attitude post race in the interview, celebration and podium was terrible. Since he’s been fighting for wins he gets too salty when he doesn’t get one.

[@Meeko2689]

Lando comes across arrogant and entitled, he's an okay driver but I don't think he is WC material, the more and more I see Oscar the more I like him

[@theyeshhh]

Lando hate has gone through the roof these last few months!

[@troublemaker833]

I agree, but I would like to add that I think it also has something to do with disappointment over something that fans believe could have been. If you bottle a start in P7 that’s still sad, but if you loose a podium position because of it, if you loose a Championship battle because of it, that’s when people start noticing. It actually reminds me a lot of the Ferrari/Charles Leclerc situation in 2022. (Btw I do not wan’t to imply that either of them aren’t fantastic driver’s - I am a Charles Leclerc truther. But people are a lot more forgiving towards both drivers and teams when they aren’t fighting at the front)

[@abird9387]

Some people I know that would like to see Lando lose is just so they can see his more "casual" fanbase cry, which I have to admit, is a bit of a fun sight to behold but "hate" may be a strong word for this situation.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Causal fan base? All the bandwagon fans are Max or Lewis fans. And Leclerc has way more casual fans

[@Artois2011]

Lando is evolving both as a person and a driver. There are those that don’t want to allow for this. His true fans will allow for it and move forward with him. 🧡 #4 💪

[@midnightq69]

So he’s evolving from a wanker into an even bigger one?

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I’m forever a Daniel and Lando fan, but I can’t stand the Lando fans. I think Lando needs to work on dealing with some problems if he wants to be one of the best drivers in the future and a championship driver

[@TheMikeFloyd]

Lewis revealed how ruthless and humble he is Max revealed how traumatized and crafted he is Fernando revealed how temperamental and fiery he is Lando revealed he's a spoiled brat billionaire's kid -> Give Oscar a WDC now

[@GoSox6]

Lol you basically did the thing you said other people are doing with your whole #1 driver argument because Landon disagrees and is being comeptive about it and that is what is rubbing people apparently including you the wrong way. If Lando wins every race left, a possibility when you have the strongest car, and Max doesn't get P2 just one time then Lando will have won the championship. It's a different story next year when they are back on level points again but for now McLaren should definitely do right by him to prioritize him while he has this opportunity. I would want them to do the same for Oscar if roles were reversed

[@agraiell5048]

The hate for Lando is to strong with some people to think that clearly.

[@NickzAndMikz]

The long and short of it for me is that Lando lost his humility and joy, as you outlined. It's gotten to his head and it's tough to continue to support him

[@ThekingCR7-wi6et]

5:21 Bro just glazed Oscar Now if u understand that scene Oscar costed McLaren a 1-2 how do u say thats a wonderful move

[@ConfiUser3]

Nobody is hating Norris. Honestly, I think most of the F1 fans want him to succeed. But he doesn't really convince anyone to have a winner mentality if he always makes little mistakes. There has not been a single clean win for him, all of them riddled with silly mistakes which you won't see from any other driver. Now, okay, it could be that Norris was pushing all the time and made mistakes because he was always at 100%, who knows. But if you look at Piastri's Baku win, he had fair competition, with two drivers and two teams who were equally fast. One mistake and Piastri wouldn't have won. I don't see how Norris would have won that race in the same position, and in the end, he has to get there. He still has to show that he can win races when the odds are against him. I have seen Verstappen do this, Leclerc, Piastri, Hamilton, Russell, even Sainz. But not Norris. Yet. I honestly hope he gets there.

[@JoleneLin78]

The Singapore drive was pretty clean to me, from pole to race win.

[@MG-tl1hy]

@@JoleneLin78he nearly broke his front wing 3 times

[@JoleneLin78]

@@MG-tl1hy yeah note- pretty clean to me. It was close but it wasn’t damaged! I watched it live and it wasn’t too bad at all.

[@Ricky911_]

Ngl, I don't hate Lando but this championship fight has definitely shown a side of himself that I don't particularly like. I feel like that comment towards Lewis was completely unsolicited. I've definitely felt like he's a bit arrogant in the past with the "Seb should focus on driving" comment after Seb smoked everyone at the Grill the Grid. But, this championship has definitely highlighted that side of him

[@Thegamerfailer]

I'll just say first I am a lando fan so there is some bias but I'm also a little frustrated that lando hasn't been has consistant this season and neither has mclaren. Lando has definately had a mentality shift this season after his first win and its clear he's taking longer to adapt to being a front runner aswell as challenging for the championship, in all fairness I don't think he expected to be challenging for it, it didn't look that way at the start of the season we all assumed it was wrapped up by red bulls strong start. Now at monza I'm gonna disagree and say that while it was a good move, oscar gave lando the decision to either back off or crash, it wasn't oscar doing it clean, he forced lando to give up position in a risky overtake, and I don't think its unfair for lando to question such an aggressive risky overtake which cost the team a 1-2 finish.

[@ThekingCR7-wi6et]

That's what I was saying in another video

[@PatTriesAgain]

People hate Lando because he got a fast car all of a sudden. He was always meant to be at the front, now he is, and people think he dosen't deserve it. I think that is a bunch of BS. And his demeanor changing after Miami makes sense, he wants to be more serious. He wants to be taken more seriously. He is still making some mistakes, and he is rightfully angry when he makes them. People say dumb stuff when they are tired and angry ( like what happened with Hamilton )

[@KarenTondro]

He nearly crashed in Singapore twice, and got minor wing damage

[@PatTriesAgain]

@@KarenTondro A lapse of concentration, considering the conditions, I don't blame him.

[@GloomGaiGar]

So people took him seriously even when he's trying to crack jokes but now it just looks like he is arrogant.

[@hfbloke706]

the heck do you mean by he’s always meant to be at the front? what if he’s meant to be in the midfield

[@marco_1909]

Am probably in the minority, but I don’t agree with Oscar being number one priority, not looking at championship chances. He has great potential and has had good races but imho, he has yet to get near Lando. Compared to say how close it was between Max and DR. He is being beaten convincingly more often than not. Oscar has to beat Norris regularly to be number 1. Regarding the Norris hate, I think it stems from people expecting him to still be the same baby faced guy and are judging him by that lenses. Look at where being the likable guy got DR, he wants to be taken seriously and people should accept that.

[@TheSt1092]

As a Lando fan although there have been some individual disappointments I think it has been a good season so far . Without McLaren slow to the season prior to Miami if Lando had had the car he has now back in Bahrain he would be neck and neck with Max even with some mistakes . This year is a learning year for Lando and the whole team and they are actually challengiing for the championship a year ahead of the schedule . The important thing for Lando and the whole team is that even if this years title bid comes up short use these last few races to set up a 2025 championship win. Everytime Oscar has won there have been people predicting Lando's demise and it still hasn't happened.

[@bobcharlotte8724]

After his first win he changed and became a sulky child when he gets anything less. There's a difference between having high expectations for yourself and just being a strange asshole.

[@JoshuaFLO86]

American fan here 👋🏽, what is the big deal ? Driver being aggressive? Who cares ? Almost like this whole Max cussing thing . Are other countries that up tight? 😂

[@martijndraijer8414]

I have always been a fan of Lando, but Lando turned into a bit of a downer, a whiner and sometimes he acts like a spoiled brat when things dont go his way and turns on a dime and becomes arrogant when things do. This has been a steady decline this year. I favor Piastri, Max and Charles over Lando currently.

[@ernestpresents]

rich kids in expensive cars racing in unethical places promoting dodgy corporations for the discernment of teenagers on social media ? fantastic spectacle.

[@lecn]

not a fan of mclaren but u rly seem biased

[@kevinpi7488]

Pers usually is neutral, but yeah, he did seamed a little biased, I don't fully disagree with him, the team orders thing is a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't, Had it been Red Bull, Mercedes, Or Ferrari, doesn't matter if Oscar would be on pace, Lando was the one who had the biggest chances of catching Max to the title, and they would have given him priority on the spot, had they been on Mclaren's shoes.

[@lil6462]

I wanted to share my take on why I started to not like Lando. I believe it started around after Miami. I was actually super happy for his first win and even teared up a bit, but after that win a change happened. I dont think my beginning sparks of dislike had to do with Lando at all, but the media. After lando won in Miami, McLaren became a possible championship winning car and I think the big media channels (sky sport, f1tv, etc). Really took that and ran with it too fast. I would watch the preshow and post show and all the commentators would talk about is Lando and mclaren, to the point the topic became annoying. I think the media focus on him even started to get to lando himself. They put so much pressure on him and made him into a spectacle that his big win, that he wait so long in his career for, couldn’t even rest for a bit. He was pushed into maybe champion so fast and that made his mental change. I noticed that he seems happier going from 13-6 (sorry if the positions are wrong) in Baku because he was in a “nothing to lose” scenario. Compared, to his pole to p2 or p1 scenarios. Another, reason is his mood change. Lando has always been known a brat from the start, but I think the recent more depressed attitude, opposed to his previous funny or cheerful character is shining more light on the bratty asshole personality. He has made similar jabs at drivers in the past, but that felt more humorous when he would crack a huge smile and joke around with people. In contrast, I now rarely see him smile or joke anymore, but he continues to make the same quips and jabs as he used to and I don’t think the comments are translating correctly anymore or he may not have the shield of being “the funny kid” anymore. Sorry for this essay. I just wanted to put my thoughts down. (I blame the British bias)

[@Flippingwolfresells]

Genuine F1 fans stay true to their drivers. What we are seeing now is a lot of Johnny Come Latelys to F1 jumping on the Piastri Hype. It reminds of Man Utd fans in the 90s who now support City. Norris was bound to be upset after the race he was told to give away a win to his rookie team mate after all the years of Lotalty to Mclaren.

[@Flippingwolfresells]

PS I would like to say Piastri not once congratulated hos team mate when he has won in the post race reaction whereas Norris is always polite and congratulates Oscar and the team. The only other driver that poorly mannered is Ocon.

[@wonkybomb1865]

I don’t know if Piastri was completely dominating it’d be really really hard to dislike him without him giving you an actual reason to. How you act and carry yourself can go a long way as to how you are perceived.

[@Tuchi3]

Oscar reminds me of a young Lewis Hamilton and he has the tenacity of a young Kimi or Alonso he’s just so good

[@tysonngubeni8545]

I CANNOT WAIT to cheer on Oscar even more over the years

[@archieese9176]

What's stopping you now

[@tysonngubeni8545]

@@archieese9176 he’s already one of my favourites. Superb talent

[@ParkedUpAnywhere]

this video was needed for the lando fan girls

[@justfelix4720]

The fun thing is, Max might also be hated for his behavior, but I personally have a much better opinion of him than of Lando, because Max has the skill to back up his words. Lando still makes too many mistakes, especially when he's under pressure, the most recent example is Singapore, where he almost crashed 3 times while having a 20 second lead over P2. And after performances like this, seeing him act like he's on the same level as world champions is weird and annoying. In this term Oscar is way better because he is more consistent, calm and collected, AND he's pretty humble about his achievements.

[@irwinrommel2099]

He loses fans because Zack acts like Toto And Norris acts like Lewis. They are just whining non-stop recently and it's so annoying.

[@finalelement1]

Lewis?

[@irwinrommel2099]

@@finalelement1 Lewis and Toto had been insufferable from 2020 till 2022. I blame that mostly on Toto and his culture around his garage than Lewis. Because since Toto has finally admitted their car was/is not championship level, Lewis has chilled out and seems to be decent.

[@finalelement1]

​@@irwinrommel2099I definitely agree with Toto being annoying Lewis much less tho so I agree with most of what you said tbh.

[@jimsmagnificentminiaturemo3235]

I would love to hear your take on the Brazil GP, both in terms of Max's achievement and, well, Lando's lack thereof...as well as Lando's post-race comments.

[@Josh-us4iy]

My take on Oscar v Lando is that Lando is one of the quickest drivers on the grid but Oscar has much better race craft

[@droogbear649]

Firstly you have zero context for the lewis stuff because you dont know what goes on behind the scene. There easily could have been context you arent privy to. As a mclaren fan the monza incident was too risky and after lando was forced to give the first place back that he out drove oscar to get, you would think oscar wouldnt risk 2 dnfs on the opening lap.

[@ThroughJermainesLens]

because he seems a bit like an act

[@Umar-gw6fy]

The thing is even if (haha if) Lando wins the wdc people will still undermine him saying hes still immature and it was all the car and he should’ve won more people will never be happy and shouldnt ignore his talent just because they hate him

[@PretendMe]

er.. no. He's just a b*tch, plain and simple. Nothing to do with his talent for bottling.. I mean, racing

[@yaha2937]

You are heavily biased when comparing the McLaren driver, Oscar struggled so much more and had overall less success, less chances at wins, and less results. Lando is also the only one in a real tittle fight, this is the difference. An occasional good result from Oscar and an occasional bad result from Lando does not make them equal.

[@zachdoran10]

it's actually funny since imola to before singapore piastri had more points than anyone on the grid. so the "occasional good result" is actually norris rather than piastri. you take the points from the first 5 races of the season when piastri struggled and act like he hasn't been the better more consistent driver since the mclaren catapulted in pace. piastri was stronger in miami and would've be in a better place to win that race without the SC

[@ThekingCR7-wi6et]

​@@zachdoran10Are u Australian?? Cause I feel as if u are biased of Piastri

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@zachdoran10yeah if you count Austria and Baku then Piastri obviously beats him. Just cherry pick whatever range of races suits your narrative. Like remove Singapore now since it doesn’t. 👍 Oh btw Sainz is better than Leclerc because from Bahrain to Australia he was better. :D Also Stroll is better than Alonso from Austria to Hungary he outscored Alonso 😱

[@jonathantheori7541]

It just shows lando before was fake and his true attitude is now showing through Look at Oscar why do people not hate him?? It's because he is showing his true self

[@ElementVinci]

We are just seeing a competitive driver who, ultimately knows even with a polarizing car isn't definitively winning in the way he assumed he would be, especially being someone who has lived under the polarizing wins of Verstappen and Red Bull. To take this even further he understands the limits of the car, the logistics of upgrades, and what is going on under the hood more than any fan. I really do think what we are seeing with Lando's attitude is someone processing the absolute skill of those around him, and his ability to showcase his known skill and grow that skill as sand running through his fingers.

[@professorzoom1497]

Its simple, Verstappen fans hate him cause he can win WDC and Leclerc fans hate him cause he can win WDC before Charles. Australians are still pissed that he beat Ricciardo and is currently beating Oscar and Hamilton fans hate cause he doesn't praise Hamilton every chance he gets.

[@zachbishop5421]

No it's because he acts like a petulant teenager everytime things dont go his way and then acts like a spoiled brat when he does do good 😂 it makes no sense

[@ardweaden]

Verstappen fans hating Norris? I haven't seen that.

[@manofallseasons2564]

@@zachbishop5421 bro acting like f1 drivers don't moan when things go their way or spoilt brat lol

[@agraiell5048]

@@zachbishop5421 You act like a spoiled brat the moment a driver beats your favourite driver. Sit down lil hater.

[@zachbishop5421]

@@manofallseasons2564 maybe if it was once in a while but he's likee that about literally everything 😂

[@gonzalomora3253]

I believe it’s because of how the drivers handle themselves when they’re in the top, he now seems very cocky, , its all about the mental maturity to recognize their own faults and their own accomplishments, of course he doesn’t have the mental maturity because of how long he was waiting for his first win, but if you look at Oscar Piastry, he seems a lot more mature , given he is a few years younger than Lando. So I think it all comes down to that

[@boomfaoce]

Oh shock horror, actually being good and doing what the sport is about? Fans are weird. Lando is actually not ruthless enough in my eyes. My question is why people watch the sport if they don't like a driver being ruthless. Formula 1 is not Mario Kart where everyone is being nice to each other. Even in Mario Kart you can put down banana pills where somebody else might slip up

[@pizzapferd]

There's two things to this. First of all most people tend to root for the underdog. In this perticular scenario it's Oscar. And secondly it comes down to personality, age/maturity and also the fact that every single one of these drivers wants to win and to be the best, that's almost their sole focus in life for most of these guys during their 20s. When Sebastian Vettel came into the sport i loved that guy. I am german myself and he just filled the void that Michael left when he first retired. Funny, super authentic in his interviews, quick but often unlucky in his first years. Then he got to Red Bull and soon started winning. And as soon as he got his first title i remember i started to dislike the guy - remember, until then he was the underdog even in that championship fight. He got a little cocky attitude and his competitive side showed all the time with things like multi-21 incident. That only started to change once Mercedes started dominating and he ultimately moved to Ferrari. The guy got older, more mature, got married and had kids and then he became the guy that most people love again. I think it's the same for a lot of drivers because after all, everyone wants to be the absolute alpha dog.

[@yogeshatrey1901]

He is not there to make fans, he is there to perform which he does. Daniel is leaving F1 and he has countless fans, he would happily trade his loyal fanbase for performance and results.

[@benmansbridge]

I'm Australian, and also Finnish, so I would naturally support Piastri and his Kimi Räikkönen-esq personality. I really like Piastri's honesty; he says stuff that is true to his personality. I kind of want to think of Norris as the villain, but cant help liking him also for the same reason, that he talks from his heart and is genuine, from the perspective of his very different personality. That said, go Oscar! (And Lando a bit)

[@stephen3535]

We're gonna look at the Hungarian cool down room and not think about the fact that Lando gave away a victory.

[@rizkyadi8230]

yea man, really hate it when people bring up the Hungary cool down room but leaving the fact that lando has to gave away massive lead just to let oscar wins

[@stephen3535]

​@@rizkyadi8230 exactly, look at Hamilton in the cool down room in Brazil 2022. Similar situation George won and Lewis threw away the win by having a pissing contest with Max that cost him aero performance and finished less than 2 seconds behind George. He was FUMING in the cool down room and being a horrible sport about it and made George's first win awkward. But I can understand Lewis' feelings cause I'm human and not hate him lol

[@rizkyadi8230]

@@stephen3535 lewis cannot sacrifice aero performance if the car doesn't have it in the first place tho lmao

[@stephen3535]

@@rizkyadi8230 lol tru but that race was the fuel for the no side pod delusion

[@zjsz4954]

Cool down room should not be televised, it’s a cool down room to vent and gather yourself before the interviews.

[@doctorknow]

The way F1 is portraying him feels artificial at best. His "dominance" is good but RedBulls wasnt? He's spoiled and thinks too much of himself. He's not a champion my dude and YOU are insane.

[@LudwigBeefoven]

Piastri could make the move at the Monza race because Norris gave him room. If Pérez would have tried this on Verstappen there would have been contact.

[@ChillkittzGT]

I really, REALLY believe this would turn out to be another Prost-Senna rivalry in the end. Two teammates fighting each other whilst being competitive with one another.