Why Left 4 Dead 1 is better than Left 4 Dead 2

[@Realtsfrlol]

L4D: Realistic, Intense, Scary L4D2: More Fun, Anxiety increaser

[@expeditorocha2658]

perfect !!!

[@andyfriederichsen]

The pump-action shotgun in the first game had two different animations for partial reloads and full reloads. It's also interesting to note that the survivors in L4D1 also reload the semi-automatic shotgun in a way that always keeps their finger near the trigger and ready to fire.

[@steveweast475]

They changed the shotguns in L4D2 so that the player doesn't have to cock the gun each time it gets emptied, this can be annoying in the first game because you never want to drop to 0 shells.

[@andyfriederichsen]

@@steveweast475 Thankfully the workshop has shotgun animations that include remembering to cock the shotgun after doing a full reload.

[@d3dw0d]

To be fair about the Ragdolls part, I feel it was done this way to make sure defibrillators work properly

[@frenkchops6723]

There's sourcemod plugin which allows you to defib ragdoll

[@Andrewstown]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@buketov228]

This channel has ran out of ideas for videos long ago. They probably realise this but just don't care.

[@Toro563]

@@buketov228 everyone runs out of ideas at some point Nothing to be ashamed of

[@40kkidlock18]

@@buketov228 instead of saying that they've ran out of ideas how about you actually give an idea then

[@harveyanimations8974]

For some reason the terrified screams Francis makes when he’s downed is really heart wrenching for me. He just sounds so scared and alone. That is truly the sound of a scared man. No swearing, no yelling, just fear

[@dwvynejr]

For me I always thought it was funny lol

[@giovanimontoya4517]

It's funny 😂😂 i always laugh even though i know he's suffering it's just the "OoOAHhhH" that breaks me 😂

[@zerefoex]

I did the voice acting

[@marcfiftyfive_]

i like left 4 dead 2 more but i can see why people like the first one more. I liked how you could see your legs and, i prefer the entire style of l4d1 on how its a dark horror zombie movie kind of thing.

[@ImperiousMax]

I think the legs removal might have to due with less rendering and, at least in my experience back when playing l4d1, sometimes got in the way when shooting downward and crouching at the same time. It was a nice immersive feature but I can see why they'd get rid of it.

[@marcfiftyfive_]

@@ImperiousMax having it as a toggle option would probably make everyone happy i think

[@_heartbrakesoilder__6461]

Ian saying your wrong but there’s mods to fix the shit you don’t like yk so really the game don’t matter which one

[@BoredomandVanity]

It’s the same genre. I don’t know why people think L4D1 is more scarier than the second.

[@captainszasz5836]

The style is still there in l4d2. Just boot up any of the l4d1 maps/custom maps.

[@Kaori_Naim]

Another thing in L4D1 is the shoving animation when you have 2 pistols. Sometimes, the characters can shove with their left arm while in L4D2 they can only shove with their right arm. Just another really cool detail that I wish they could've kept it in the second game.

[@MurderDrones2]

0:12 Louis: YAY I HAVE LEGS!!! Other Louis: HEY MAN THATS NOT COOL!!! 😡😡😡 0:32

[@XanderNiles]

L4D2 has the vast majority of L4D1 content in it but details like seeing your legs or other unnoticed features like animations or bots behavior is what makes L4D1 somewhat special.

[@EmeraldCrowz]

the fact that L4D2 added 43 unique zombie dismemberment options alone already makes it more special IMO. And some of the things on this lists are clearly for balance, like bots running ahead in versus when versus scoring is based on distance, the audio cues giving survivors way forward intel in versus, punching allies in infected being annoying. Only a few of these points are actually downgrades.

[@minersheep8285]

Perhaps it was intended to be this way L4D2 has a few faults when compared to L4D1 and I think it’s because Valve wanted us to appreciate L4D1 even after L4D2 came along to replace it

[@Deleteds_petfish]

No mods?

[@julianmacinnis720]

@@EmeraldCrowz Also I'm sure most of the stuff that isn't in l4d2 anymore can be brought back with mods

[@Nigmond]

why L4D2 is better than L4D1 * Has a lot of content (melee weapons, new zombies, 4 new fun to play characters (i.e Nick, Coach, Ellis, Rochelle), unique weapons, cool maps which are worth to play, * Has a Workshop and Tons of Custom content which can "improve" your gamplay experience * You can play L4D in it * Has a lot plugins/sourcemods which can fix/improve your gameplay (i.e survivor ragdoll, viewmodel legs, self revive/help, impaled crawl, smart ai).

[@Atomic181]

While I prefer the ragdolls, there's something so satisfying and iconic about the animation. I mean, I can't imagine Ellis being thrown off of a building and sliding across the ground, slightly bouncing his legs due to the impact.

[@Hunter-ib9ks]

both are funny in their own ways. the funny thing about l4d1 ragdolls is shooting special infected with a sniper and seeing their body go flying backwards

[@tjones9097]

I love when you kill a smoker with a shotgun, and they do a triple backflip.

[@colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004]

I absolutely agree with the last one, the atmosphere. When I play L4D2 maps, I can chill cause its mostly daytime and I can see clearly the surroundings, making it easy to spot the commons and special infecteds. On L4D1, it gave us the maximum chacne to feel the creeps cause its night and its harder to see the infected, specially when you are in a room and the only light you are using are your flashlight, that can make me go panic mode. However, i still love L4D2 for giving us variety.

[@NovidProkteps]

Yeah, though I enjoy the subtle storytelling in l4d2 more myself, especially in Hard Rain and the Parish

[@Eyeling]

I don't think night is very scary in left 4 dead. I prefer the creepy, abandoned left 4 dead 2 atmosphere, but I wish they didn't ruin the grit of left 4 dead 1 with the campaign ports.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

No Mercy will always be my favorite. Dark Carnival is a close 2nd. Both games are amazing but with 2, 1 became rather moot.

[@steveweast475]

It's like comparing apples to oranges, they are completely different

[@dimaaltalt]

I have no idea why people are comparing l4d with l4d2 like the l4d maps are still in l4d2 i dont really understand both are insanely fun woth the same genre from the same company from the same development team.

[@aleksander2214]

here i come with explanation to some of these 2:26-defibrelator work propertly 5:33- too much team killing

[@alertsvera7288]

ty

[@Puppy_Puppington]

Not true.. It honestly could’ve worked fine. Just with one more animation set of having the live character “tug” the dead rag doll into the “correct” place/form…

[@TitanKaempfer]

@@Puppy_Puppington Having two animations of different characters connect is always a challenge in game design/animation and it was still at a time in which you wanna save performance as much as possible. There are problems. Dying from falling for example almost always ends up in being propelled away a lot, which can cause the corpse to land in areas out of reach or the corpse could get stuck awkwardly in places in which it can be reached, but you can't really revive it, without the revived one getting stuck (for example inbetween two props or a prop and wall) or instantly dying again (like the floating in water example). It also kind of balances dying close to instant death edges, like the rooftop of No Mercy - in which you can always be sure, one could be revived and don't have to hope RNGesus hates you and lets your dying team mate fall from the roof or that you accidentially shoot their corpse down yourself.

[@normienormie9425]

The reason ragdolls aren't in l4d2 it is stated in the dev commentary the ragdolls caused too many performance issues they slowed the game down too much. EDIT: Why you can't see your legs is because l4d2 uses viewmodels while l4d1 actually uses your world model as your first person model.

[@daneli4414]

oh

[@typhoonn3478]

Weapons animations is still viewmodel tho

[@6ytepp]

l4d1 uses viewmodel and worldmodel at the same time

[@thanawinsaiwongpanya6947]

wasnt it because of defibrillators?

[@normienormie9425]

@@thanawinsaiwongpanya6947 That could be a factor but in the dev commentary the ragdolls caused too many performance issues

[@1funneh1]

Honestly I think the stories happening at random times of day in L4D2 really helps you feel like the Green Flu is a problem that requires constant attention no matter what time of day. The survivors aren’t always going to be safe in the daytime. But i can admit that that takes away from the overall “horror” aspect of the game. Honestly though, maybe since I’m playing with friends. Outside of like Hunter and Charger jump scares the game in general isn’t really scary? Maybe that’s just me and my decade of playing talking

[@MegaCOOLperson12345]

The punching in l4d2 is fixed as infected to prevent trolls knocking you off a cliff as a hunter or a smoker waiting on a ledge.

[@burrfoottopknot]

Part 1 had a tougher and darker vibe, the Tank was something you would fear in part 1

[@jasperwilliams9619]

True, I always enjoyed and feared the tank on Left 4 Dead 1 for sticking around to finish the job after incapacitating your character. It put a stressful timer on your allies to try and kill the tank before your team was made 1 member shorter, and I miss the adrenaline rush that came with that

[@vzoryan1769]

​@@jasperwilliams9619in l4d2 it happens too when the ai thinks it's the best move it not always is though

[@scaryronald63325]

bro the tank is scary when 2 people are dead and your at 30 with 20 bullets left

[@Tri_Nguyen_]

The game is 13 years old and I'm still playing it everyday

[@Kanoku31]

same

[@iloveweed9332]

Same

[@BritishRailClass47]

@@iloveweed9332 aw I love you too

[@orlandorichards9942]

Man can i tell u,.its my favorite game I only have it and resident evil 5 on my pc, I'm even playing rite nw.

[@victoraviles7817]

Does online multiplayer still work?

[@blacklightfreddy251]

yes, but l4d2 includes all characters and campaigns of l4d1 and a new game for the same price as l4d1, also features a better hud, more infected, more weapons and new mechanics

[@edl4767]

yea but l4d1 has no jockey so i'd rather play that lmao

[@elfascisto6549]

The HUD looks way better in l4d1, the weapons are more believable in l4d1 and the first person animations look more pleasing all around. More isn't the same as better.

[@DannyCheezits]

I like left 4 dead 2 more than 1 because of the less grating gun sounds, more content in nearly every way, more variety with item spawns, and the less unfair tanks. If I were to bring one thing from l4d1 into l4d2 it'd be the pistol design because it looks way cooler, but I can see why they changed them because from a distance they look exactly like the magnum

[@DannyCheezits]

Also l4d2 ruined a lot of l4d1 maps by adding endless horde events and making cool attention to detail like a metal detector that your not forced to walk through alerting the horde required to do

[@marshallyoungmandy8434]

I feel like L4D1 expert mode is harder. Since the Tank just kill people on the ground rather than trying to downing everyone, also he was faster while burning. You had less specials, which is harder since jockey, charger and spitter are not as much of a threat as an endless cicle of smoker boomer and Hunter. There were also no melees, but there was infinite shove, which is actually weaker. Also no defibilator and no adrenaline. No chainsaw, grenade launcher and M60. You could camp corners which is pretty strong, which is why Spitters exist. But still overall would argue 1 was harder. There could be a gamemode for L4D1 champaign. I know there's mutation, but It Just isn't the same imo.

[@DannyCheezits]

@@marshallyoungmandy8434 oh yeah I tried getting the expert mode achievement in l4d1 and it was brutal. Always got stuck on the finales because of how op tanks were

[@hihosh1]

@@marshallyoungmandy8434 I actually like the grenade launcher, you had one in RE 2 and 3 and same for M60 though I would love to be able to remunition them like on some servers

[@conkergemini6489]

Agree except the Xbox version of l4d 2 with lacking content. It's too inferior!

[@guitarsandcars2586]

3:44 that part kills me ever time. "Dammit i-" dead, lol.

[@Killoer]

For hanging in L4D2, u can bypass it by holding jump, still kind of ridiculous how big the safety hitbox is, and makes custom maps that require platforming hell.

[@ClubsterEq]

Insert glub 4

[@fierdrages6523]

Still fun tho

[@Anatoly_Maly]

Атмосфера ужаса в 1 части конечно шикарная и я её люблю🖤, но 2 часть сделана именно для веселья и бодрого коопа, в этом плане их нельзя сравнивать 💁‍♂️

[@tk-hf4oz]

I always wondered why Valve bothered to add legs on PC version of L4D1. I think it's the only game and port from Valve where the player can see them.

[@edward7434]

It's still a cool feature.

[@loutenant9480]

you can see your legs in team fortress 2 also with a console command cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1

[@cyn1stre]

Yeah I remember clearly the moment I switched from 360 to PC, seeing these beautiful, majestic legs in action. Not many FPS had this feature back then.

[@tk-hf4oz]

@@loutenant9480 It's not really the same thing. You have to use the console to see them.

[@Red_Nine5]

@@cyn1stre Man same I had to switch soon after I downloaded it on my Xbox one via backwards compatibility but the console versions were just dead os I switched to PC and man I don't regret it 60FPS and decent graphics.

[@MingoPJ]

The part where bill drowns is very unrealistic on the 1st game, when someone drowns, thier corpse doesnt float right after they die/drowned, it actually stays in the water for hours/days, so props to l4d2

[@mohamadamirulabdlah6089]

In logic, yes. But in animation, nope.

[@F_YT_bring_back_nicknames]

Как же мне нравилась перезарядка дробовика в 1 части. Либо следишь за патронами и моментально стреляешь после перезарядки, либо доводишь до 0 патронов и долго перезаряжаешь (анимация в конце дольше и ты не можешь зразу же выстрелить)

[@ГенрийХабор]

Ема ты гений

[@ItzRoger]

One thing I really love about the first game is just how dumb the AI can be and how funny it is watching them run around in every direction they're NOT facing

[@hunlepto2239]

I'll probably link this video to the TLS devs, because the hanging trigger and the saferoom door lock should all be added to L4D2. We can live without the others (especially without the infected punching, that's kinda dumb in my opinion), but I feel these things are pretty important overall. I also like the music cues in versus, but that would be a too big buff for the survivors, considering they're already overpowered in versus if played properly, it would also make sneaky hunter attacks impossible if the player listens to the cue.

[@gabsu6904]

An interesting thing is that the survivors get the leg in the shape of a 4 in l4d2 when they die

[@mosshivenetwork117]

I do agree with some things but Left 4 Dead 2 will remain an awesome part of my childhood. I don't like how some campaigns are during the day because it takes away from the dark atmosphere. HOWEVER, you could say that "Left 4 Dead 1 taught us fear while Left 4 Dead 2 taught us to fight back." I guess that contributes to atmosphere.

[@jjwrx8]

Eh like the variety in l4d2 myself can't blame the L4D2 cast for waiting until they can see before going out in a apocalypse 🤷Tbh missions atmosphere like swap fever/hard rain and dark carnival all really added a whole bunch extra for me L4D1 was guilty of a desaturated dark color pallet like too many other games also were at the time.

[@mosshivenetwork117]

@@jjwrx8 your profile picture reminds me of sex. :(

[@Snezit1]

Things that are improvements in my eyes is leaving the safe room when someone is connecting and no infected friendly knockback most of the other stuff is fairly minor differences

[@snowik]

Ну, вообще насчёт физики рагдолла, при падении во второй лефте создаётся такая анимация из-за того что во второй части есть дефиб, а в первой его нету, поэтому смерть в первой лефте рагдольная.

[@Fr0dech]

Правильно, потому что рэгдоллы всегда на сурсе были клиент-сайдными. Другой вопрос почему нельзя было их подлатать чтобы они были сервер-сайдными.

[@fait0n]

Вероятно отключили рагдолл чтобы труп выжившего всегда оставался на месте гибели (чтобы оживить), а не улетел чёрт знает куда от взрыва гранаты или чтобы заражённые труп не запинали куда подальше.

[@mnk5610]

рэгдолл в первой лефте какой-то стремный и модельки плавно двигаются, а не резко как в реальной жизни, я понимаю движок старый, но рэгдолл в том же гарис моде выглядит живее

[@blade8271]

Сколько я наиграл во вторую часть, но дефиб не пригодился ни разу. Наверное самая бесполезная вещь в игре из за которой похерили регдолл

[@Зорн-ы5ы]

Могли бы сделать анимацию переворачивания на спину для исп дефиба. Наверное это запаристо было для разработчиков.

[@4ydovishe924]

Скорее всего нашёт регдолов, из-за того что в 1 части не было дефибрилятора были регдолы, а в 2 части он есть, поэтому что-бы регдол не багался и т.д., его убрали. Но хорошо что есть такая кнопка как: "Мастерская"

[@pigzera]

L4D1 was more polished. L4D2 looks like it was rushed in development to release it asap. But i bought it in the day it released (on disk btw) and i remember at the time it was one of the most anticipated games in 2009.

[@antarticstorm7991]

I mean l4d2 was literally out a year later after the first game. It should have been out in 2010 l4d2 got boycott cause of it.

[@hunlepto2239]

@@antarticstorm7991 The boycott happened before the release though.

[@antarticstorm7991]

@@hunlepto2239 yeah when the announcement was made that it was going to release a year after the first gsme

[@fnutek3720]

What do you mean l4d1 was more polished? L4D2 is the exact same game, except they removed big fps hogs that had little to no impact on gameplay or atmosphere, but they added way more immersive zombies and special infected. They also developed on the universe instead of rehashing it. L4D2 is objectively a way more polished game

[@Phenixtri]

@@fnutek3720 its a more optimized game not more polished on account the needlessly scrapped alot of features to cut development time.

[@Kacpa2]

You can avoid hanging in L4D2 by holding the space after initial jump.

[@bobic8431]

В L4D1 разные анимации перезарядки есть только у дробовиков, а в L4D2 только у пистолетов. Плюс во второй части у охотничьей снайперки из-за бага может появиться анимация перезарядки с затвором, которая была вырезана в первой.

[@УглекислыйГаз]

с пистолетом в первой тоже самое, когда ты перезаряжаешь 1 пистолет и берешь во время перезарядки второй

[@thesuperboss26]

I loved the guns sound better and one and also how your weapons wobble as if you’re actually walking with them unlike the stiff way in 2

[@WillDoesnt]

I still wish they added viewmodel LEGS in L4D2. I think they removed it for more FPS value, but still the immersion was so cool.

[@murloc9820]

it was because l4d1 used your world model and l4d2 uses view model

[@beyond_5dtemp]

@@murloc9820 This dude literally just copy and pasted what somebody else said lol

[@PlagueDoctor-87]

It's still not a complete answer, though. The world model could be chopped in half vertically and use both. Most likely it got removed due to performance (reminder that this game *had* to run decently on a Xbox360)

[@murloc9820]

@@PlagueDoctor-87 could be but isnt, so my answer is correct

[@britz2575]

@@beyond_5dtemp And so what? does that mean they can't tell other people what they learned from other people?

[@then35t18]

I believe the hanging thing can be avoided by holding jump when going off a surface, and if I had to guess they removed ragdoll physics for resurrection. Probably to avoid complications.

[@normienormie9425]

Actually it was for performance issues this is stated in the dev commentary which apparently nobody used lol.

[@clumsyshtick7543]

There's an addon for characters having ragdoll once dead, whilst kept the defib feature by keeping the model invincible and an model use for the ragdoll physics, for the lag that the stated this was a long time ago which computers were still primitive

[@HEADSHOTPROLOL]

​@@normienormie9425still a dumb reason. All games have different technical requirements, but it really reminds me of a Sims 3 to 4 situation where oh the previous game was difficult to run, so instead of figuring out how to achieve the same great and appreciated design just with improved performance like all our competitors are doing, we'll just cut features instead and call it a day. This isn't nearly as bad as the Sims example, but similarly flawed thought process.

[@cameronnorton5898]

I like l4d 1 better myself

[@enderknightsword]

7:22 That zombie entrance just looks silly lmao, feels like a cartoon villain coming right up at a TV show

[@Marine_2010]

No

[@Albeenor]

L4D2’s worst mistake was changing the pistol models

[@white2765]

Not exactaly. Imagine seeing a magnum At the distance But whem you get closer to It It was a Pistol.

[@Mrnoobestreturns]

I’m 1 month late but nah the biggest mistake L4D2 has is the survivor AI or Witch AI cuz these 2 AI completely gives the survivors a massive disadvantage cuz The AI revives on spit wasting half there HP or all of it and the infected a 50% chance of a massive disadvantage cuz Witches are easy as hell to kill with tier 1 shotguns or tier 2 shotguns or if the witches are standing up they go to the worst spots possible and also take the tank spawns Thats L4D2 biggest flaw cuz all the others I think are Minior issues that don’t effect me at all or are understandable why they removed it from L4D1

[@J4MIL]

Facts l4d1 pistol is goated

[@mopyrshu2617]

0:31 luis: cool, looks like counter-strike луис: круто, прямо как в контр-страйке

[@illumineauxhair]

The legs thing was such a big deal for me. I was so sad to see it's absence in L4D2.

[@forkyou2356]

Yeah because you will definitely be looking down the whole time while killing zombies..........

[@SonicMaster519]

@@forkyou2356 I see you don't understand tiny details that really immerse you more and why they're so important.

[@oicutleldeyovzecuhpwe]

Does cl_first_person_uses_world_model 1 not work in L4D2? It's a Source game isn't it?

[@illumineauxhair]

@@forkyou2356 I think it’s weirder to look down and see nothing when the original releases included legs.

[@JuiceboxCE]

@@forkyou2356 You're really just out here supporting the digression of features, huh

[@ThatJapanArtist]

I agree with these problems, but most of them can be restored or enhanced via mods call thanks to the awesome STEAM community behind this game 🤙

[@ismailragimkhanov9204]

Left 4 Dead 1 - рассматривался как хоррор, а left 4 dead - как зомби боевик.Этим они тоже отличаются.

[@seiniormesut4710]

I realized in l4d1 tank is the only special infected you can't see his legs or even his arms when he standing or moving,you still see his arms when attacking (lack animation attack incapacitated survivor) but not when you looking down.

[@SpectralOne]

7:23 мелодии особых заражённых (bacteria sounds), слишком сильно их палят, за охотника можно стоять не издавая и звука, но выжившие будут знать о тебе, даже если ты стоишь, да и в принципе, они сильно триггерят команду, и куда круче когда ты помнишь как звучат сами заражённые, а не мотив в их мелодии.

[@kriegtech1651]

Забавно что во второ части я слышал эти же звуки

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

Left 4 dead 1 you had infinite shoving where you will never get tired of spamming shoving at zombies. Left 4 dead 2 had Shoving cap limit to keep the game balance. The more frequently you shove a weapon, the longer your stamina shove to take refill.

[@probablybears]

L4D1 actually did have a shoving limit, but it was for versus and survival. Solo/coop campaign was the only place it was infinite.

[@aandric]

4:10 you can completely negate this by holding space bar when you jump sidenote: this even works for just walking off edges, you'll obv have to jump first beforehand but you can still hold space and just hold W off an edge

[@empathysunstrider]

youre all saying that to him like hes not the first who is used or find that.

[@midoritranslationchannel]

L4D1: Survival horror game as it intend shall be. L4D2: *KILLING ZOMBIES IS SO MUCH FUN!!!*

[@xxovereyexx5019]

L4D2 is built like that for more competitive gameplay. You should make part 2 "why L4D2 is better than L4D"

[@Mr.Waksal]

In my opinion, Left 4 Dead 1 has a much scarier atmosphere than Left 4 Dead 2. It's just a shame that in Left 4 Dead 1 there aren't as many weapon choices as Left 4 Dead 2.

[@heracit4012]

Я бы сказал, что для меня решающее преимущество 1 l4d над 2 в плотной и темной атмосфере, но не совсем так. Атмосфера игры была крепко связана с концепциями, заложенными в неё. Ну вы помните "кооперативное выживание" и пр. Первая часть - это идейно цельный проект, где механики связаны с дизайном, с поведением. Вторая сделана на основе первой.. но цельная ли она? БТВ, пункт с поведением аи-тиммейтов тоже весомый для меня. В первой части чувствовалось, что "нам нужно пройти". Была в этом ощущении и интрига, и мотив выживания. Во второй части просто прешься через карты и если приглушить развлечение, получаемое в процессе, то может стать неудобно от идиотии.

[@lukabrasi001]

about the atmosphere, L4D is about a set of survivors with 0 chance for survival but defying all odds regardless. L4D2 is more the B movie feel with the whole arizona vibe to it, its bright, playful and a lot less sinister. its a deliberate choice they've done and you can still enjoy L4D's full glory with the appropriate campaigns

[@Spykitty358]

Most of the differences are small things that don't usually effect the gameplay at all. The bots not leading the point in versus is a good thing that's not in l4d2 because I've had a bot in l4d1 run in and die. It's not exactly something that makes them better, just makes them careless. And when it comes to mods L4D2 is going through a new era of script moding that changes AI behavior allowing them to do many things only players can do. We're able to make our own animations now. However that's only on PC and not console. And the grabbing ledges issue in 2 can be solved by simply holding the jump button. But yea that still gets annoying.

[@Leo_8753]

You can ragdoll in vanilla left 4 dead 2. It's very spefic but you need to slip off a ledge and grab on to it, you need to make sure zombies don't hit you and that no one helps you up. when your hp finally goes all the way down you will regain control of your character while falling off, only then your dead body will be a ragdoll .

[@mofuhh]

You do realize bots only move on their own in the first game when there are meds, pills or guns nearby right?

[@demonicrobot50]

2:30 hpmf (crack)

[@I_have_nothing1-1]

This is going to hell real fast!

[@DangerMouseYT35]

​@@I_have_nothing1-1AUGH- *Crack*

[@mattiag1846]

05:25 this happened in "campaign" too, I remember when with my old slowly PC and (rarely) enter after somebody open the door

[@XxWinnerPGCxX]

Honestly there isn’t much in my mind that makes l4d1 better. Maybe the hunter pounce animation, the versus scoring and maybe the ragdoll. Everything else IMO is better in l4d2. Also sometimes interesting to play with only hunter boomer and smoker.

[@HazyPolitics]

Didn’t even watch the video yet but I agree full-heartedly.

[@PinkSpaceDinosaur]

Both are good themes but I gotta say the L4D1 level ending music is way better too imo

[@thebadmankev]

also the hunter has various animations when he’s jumping from wall to wall and can even jump at survivors LEGS first. not a lot of people know about this.

[@Destinedfor]

If you have a potato PC or specs, joining in the middle of the game or after it started minutes ago will take you to the You Are Dead screen as usual for like 20 secs as special infected, giving a disadvantage of time to your entire infected team. #5 or at 4:49 is a good example for it.

[@colawiththeburnt-outtaste8004]

l4D1 teaches us fear, L4D2 teaches us how to fight.

[@Isaacfess]

Well said.

[@gopet400]

Surprised infinite pushes didn’t make the list

[@shinramune9002]

I love L4D1 for its horror environment and i love L4D2 for its characters. Both games are great

[@Developer888]

Hopefully l43 has all that made ld1 great and what made l4d great with without all the bad stuff 2 had

[@nightmaremaus406]

​@@Developer888no, source 2 l4d2

[@neilgonzalezgonzales9710]

1:21 "Lets Go", "Lets Go" Francis: nop :v

[@WonderlandWarGaming]

I do agree/disagree on some of the stuff in the video. But I believe this video should be called "Why Left 4 Dead 1 is better than Left 4 Dead 2 at details". Here's my responses to things I disagree with: 2:26 Ragdoll physics were removed to make it easier for you to use a defibrillator, I know about the mod that lets you use the defib on ragdolls, but I can still imagine that it's possible to grief, for instance, what if a player shoots the ragdoll in a pit or in an unreachable spot? They also shouldn't float in water because if the survivors can't float, why would the dead body float? 5:33 This was likely removed so it isn't as easy to grief. 7:23 Infected spawn music likely made it way too predictable for the survivors and it would make it harder for the infected to plan attacks. 7:45 The atmosphere changed deliberately. L4D1 has more of a darker atmosphere while L4D2 has a more atmosphere that encourages the survivors to be more badass. It's not to say L4D2 always has the goofy atmosphere because it can definitely be more dark.

[@the_pyroland]

3:08 Louis: hey everyone let's sleep in the car Everyone: ok

[@drip_]

Doesn't matter. Both of them are good. Just fills me with so much of nostalgia. Damn it

[@Pain..........]

Couldn't agree more brotha

[@drip_]

@@Pain.......... 😭 I love this game

[@Pain..........]

Who doesn't? One of the most nostalgic games in the world

[@xxovereyexx5019]

The only thing that i miss in l4d1 is Hunter Movement & Animation which is looks more cool.

[@mastifixggg]

Атмосферу первой и второй лефты можно легко объяснить. В первой лефте персонажей и вообщем ситуацию объясняют как - отчаяние, безвыходность и естественно хоррор. Вторая часть - надежда, шансы на спасения, тут тоже есть хоррор но разрабы по пытались во второй части сделать акцент на то, что у персонажей есть шансы на выживание. В первой части музыка в игре такая, по типу очень вялая и грустная, устрашающе и.т.д. Во второй части музыка такая же, но там больше рокк и музыка ассоциируется с весельем, лор игры так и даёт понять что у выживших во второй части все хорошо, они справятся, они вместе держутся! По типу того, во время как в первой мы видем полную отчаение и очень нагнетающий саунд и ситуацию, все это соопровождается пугающими саундами.

[@Lone_Wolf-xd6hs]

Я так понял ты видел видео на aREC

[@mastifixggg]

@@Lone_Wolf-xd6hs да, я с ним согласен потому что

[@FloarMin]

I have an explanation for the 3rd one. Since in left 4 dead 2 they added the defibrilator finding team mates bodies to defibrilate would be too hard.

[@Djentlman7]

But when you have a defibrillator it does highlight any dead survivors bodies red.

[@FloarMin]

@@Djentlman7 But it might still go out of bounds

[@Djentlman7]

@@FloarMin true.

[@flameuptheherbwoofdownthebeer]

Also it would create a lot of griefing,since someone can just shoot the bodies into out of bounds areas and in turn prevent defiblirating.

[@Phenixtri]

@@FloarMin sounds like something that could be easily fixed via mapping as opposed to scrapping an entire feature in the game imho ...

[@_.oof._]

i love both but i play l4d2 mainly cause the 1st one is more leaned into a horror kind of thing but l4d2 is more of an epic zombie movie that you control the characters, and i prefer the 2nd one but l4d1 still epic

[@mylonoceda]

L4D1 was created at a time when Valve was drunk with Source's power of physics. L4D2 was created at a time when Valve cared more about competitivity.

[@randomtexanguy9563]

So much changes in just 365 days.

[@bedrylo3529]

2:25 in l4d2 the defib would be useless cause the body could fall into some map holes that is not reachable for others to revive you. but i think if valve wanted to add the physics with ragdolls they prob could make it possible. also i do think if there was a worksop for l4d1 it would still be popular today i mean thats my opinion but anyway

[@CoolyCools]

Pretty sure ragdolls are client side

[@syahareensharani6869]

Without L4D2 there would be no One Man Cheeseburger Apocalypse

[@BoredomandVanity]

Agreed

[@ianrandolph6436]

It's like that one part of Terminator during the police station scene where you could see through his eyes when he lifted the gun, and the camera was clearly not up to his eyes.

[@Ronel_9719]

Yes! yes! yes ! LEFT 4 DEAD Video Thanks HS TOP 🖤 There is something you missed! left 4 dead 1 Contains an animation of the hunter holding on to the wall with his hands clinging to the wall. However, the same cannot be said for left 4 dead 2.

[@casedistorted]

I remember the days in L4D1 before they patched it where you could infinitely melee by using a combo. Then they added that stamina cap so you could only melee push every so often. Also L4D1 I will always love more because you can play with the bots solo and feel like it’s a complete game. L4D2 has more content and everything but it never felt like the same game I wanted. It felt goofy and more joking. I wanted the L4D1 I saw from the beta footage.

[@AlmStGummyBear]

0:40 huh I did not know about that.

[@Beko135]

4:43 Yaşlanmışsın Bill dayım

[@Букмекернадежный]

3:32 это хорошо что нельзя толкать труп в L4D2.Я конечно не проверял,прежде чем говорить что-то... Но вот ситуация к примеру: На карте "Вымерший центр:Отель",в режиме "Версус" умирает союзник, вы нашли Дефибриллятор... А зомби столкнули труп! Ну можно это было-бы исправить тем, что поднять окна...Ну допустим друга ситуация:В кампании "Смерть в воздухе" зомби удалось кого-то убить, и там есть НЕ мало мест где и самому можно упасть. И скажите мне... Как с этим должны были бороться? Я это пишу сейчас на ходу, и не могу вспомнить ещё таких "моментов"... Но я уверен они есть. Если есть какой-то способ с этим бороться, вы просто мне поясните. Ну и да... Можно было-бы выключить физику трупа в "Версусе".Но вас бы это устроило? Хотя... Можно было-бы просто сделать так, что-б особые заражённые не могли прикоснуться к трупу.Сам задал вопрос... Сам и ответил ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@nabuhiro]

По-моему дефиба не было в первой части.

[@Букмекернадежный]

@@nabuhiro Я имел ввиду 2 часть игры. В 1 вроде не было. Но я писал про 2 часть, и то, что физика трупа могла бы испортить игровой процесс...

[@Зорн-ы5ы]

В сражении тогда лучше было убрать дефибы, либо не давать заражëнным сталкивать тела.

[@Букмекернадежный]

@@Зорн-ы5ы Не соглашусь... Ситуации бывают разные.Да!Дефибриллятор может и не спасти. Хотя иногда он и может "вытащить катку" в некоторых случаях.

[@Букмекернадежный]

@@Зорн-ы5ы А вот "не давать заражённым сталкивать тела"-это да...

[@watter_kitten8526]

but, now we have a steam workshop, where we can fix it all. and skins, scripts, maps and other.

[@ramiram847]

yes but no one left to play this game servers are empty and is almost inpossible to find players

[@cursedvan]

L4d2 bots are better because they stick closer to you

[@magnusgejs3808]

Ye

[@cooler_carpington]

But they still have a hard time getting the hunter off of you

[@roblox_talon_gaming1309]

We can all agree that l4d2 ATLEAST has more satisfying gore

[@TheTommyb171]

In fact pro player when l4d2 came out didn't even played it lol, we started playing l4d2 month later cuz l4d1 is even harder in his way

[@yucksta]

These are valid points, but L4D2 has Coach. Checkmate

[@redninelowdog]

Left 4 Dead 1's characters were much better to be honest.

[@Totally_Random0]

2:41 Bill just preformed non existence

[@AlphaJnx]

I like the l4d2. Cuz the reload on the shotgun sucks especially cuz it's dark af. Also it is funny when you got hit by the witch ur body (ragdoll) just fly away XD Also for the versus mode. Well you know the reason why they removr the Knockback For the theme song for them i think is to balance it out especially hunter on versus mode. Cuz a cue sound is well.. you know.

[@Freelancer837]

I wouldn't say all of these are better in Left 4 Dead 1, and as for the atmosphere, I don't think eithe rare better, and I actually really like the different atmosphere between the two, but that clip for L4D2's is also a stretch for a specific instance while compared to a common part of L4D1

[@SonicAndPokemon15275]

I Love Left 4 Dead 1 2008 So Much❤️❤️

[@flstrd]

8:25 life of a discord mod

[@dewaj9749]

I fully respect the opinion, I really do. But, if you are playing the game on Steam, there is a modding community that have made mods (obviously). There are a few that fix these problems, like Lux's Survivor Leg Script, which allows you to see your legs in Left 4 Dead 2, and there are a few mods that allow you to ragdoll on death. I won't name all of them here, but most of the problems you are having have already been made into mods for L4D2, to enhance your experience. And it's okay if you don't like to mod your games and just like to play vanilla and vanilla alone. Just letting you know that there are fixes.

[@brutalgod9204]

К сожалению 1 часть столь шедевральной игры буквально утеряна в аналах игровой истории. Онлайн 1 части крайне мал, большинство игроков отдают предпочтение 2 части за "новизну". Инк, спасибо что уделил внимание 1 части в нынешнее время, большое тебе спасибо.

[@SuSLi4eKkK]

Я по настроению все также играю либо в первую, либо во вторую

[@Remoway]

А смысл?) Первая часть легче (привет казуалы), у неё нет воркшопа, у неё кривые анимации от первого лица. Не вижу смысла играть в первую часть, когда ты можешь играть во вторую.. Хотя, если только ради ачивок.

[@brutalgod9204]

@@Remoway 1 часть больше с упором на атмосферу. Во 2 части пропала вся та атмосфера, пропали многие звуки. 2 часть делалась как зомби-шутер без элемента типо хоррора.

[@ddropfaron633]

@@brutalgod9204 интересный факт: Атмосфера частей разница по простому объяснению... Место первых компаний проходит в одной части страны (потом чутка в другой). А место вторых компаний проходит уже в другой. Именно из-за разницы между местом действия атмосферы разнятся. P.S. ну и ради разнообразия, нельзя же было просто сделать хоррор локации на манер первой части и сказать "прогресс"...

[@kriegtech1651]

@@ddropfaron633 атмосферу понерфили не из-за локаций а из-за бэкграунда, первое это отчаяние, второе надежда

[@piterskyugodnik]

Физику с телами во второй части убрали наверное потому что добавили дефебрилятор, и чтобы не приходилось гонятся за телами дабы оживить союзников, но все равно печально.

[@milespl]

I'm love left 4 dead 1 and 2

[@арсенийменьшов-ь2е]

8:09 в защиту L4D2 можно сказать, что в нём есть и действительно крутые и атмосферные моменты, например, последняя глава "Мрачного Карнавала" или 2-я глава "Ужасного Ливня".

[@mediel3391]

Ну по сути там только ужасный ливень и болото атмосферные, когда в 1 части каждая кампания по своему мрачная и действительно ощущается атмосфера, что зомбиапокалипсис это не весёленький тир. Плюс сама картинка там более серая и фильтры будто менее яркие

[@kriegtech1651]

@@mediel3391 да потому что в первой части только ночь

[@mediel3391]

@@kriegtech1651 в мрачном карнавале тоже не совсем день или ужасный ливень во второй половине. Но добавь всем кампаниям 2 части ночное время, она всё равно не будет такой же мрачной, поскольку изначально всё было сделано с бОльшим уклоном на экшн, фан и немного масштаб. И это не плохо, просто это другое. Как терминатор 1 и терминатор 2. Оба фильма легенды, но отличаются друг от друга по атмосфере.

[@Three_chili_dogs]

Yet people still play l4d2 more than l4d1

[@CottageDreams23]

Fr, for me L4D2 is more nostalgic tbh..

[@pheonix8167]

More play left 4 dead 2 simple mods left 4 dead 1 hard get mods /add on

[@MirmoyKikoy]

Im scares to play left 4 daed 1m always jumping at it 2 is more fun and calm

[@Aksel04izek]

знаешь, наверное ты единственный кто форсит эту игру и продвигает её в массы. спасибо тебе. лефта это моя любимая франшиза

[@choppa4851]

Боже, у меня мурашки от того, что такую легендарную игру не забыли и до сих пор продолжают снимать ролики. Это меня греет и дает надежду на светлое бушующие

[@selfish_medic]

Так будет всегда)

[@sasW_tankist]

Но обсирают другую