Why Lilia is Broken in Pro but seems Garbage in Solo Q

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@beowulfmacbethson9675
@beowulfmacbethson9675 3 жыл бұрын
"Like a brusier" *shows Hecarim* "Like a mage" *shows Neeko* I see what you did there.
@YupiU625
@YupiU625 3 жыл бұрын
Singed x Heca, yeah
@sharkll
@sharkll 3 жыл бұрын
Obvious you can see Or not
@prachetasnayse9709
@prachetasnayse9709 3 жыл бұрын
@Kian M yes
@i8u2manytimes
@i8u2manytimes 3 жыл бұрын
"Lillia likes staying in the jungle" ... That actually makes sense lore wise as she is extremely shy and hates human interaction
@SysTMErroR1
@SysTMErroR1 3 жыл бұрын
Not hates interaction. She just doesn't want to be noticed.
@mamozanettin
@mamozanettin 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@EremitaUrbano
@EremitaUrbano 3 жыл бұрын
Her playstyle is "shy" overall
@user-yt6xz2fq8r
@user-yt6xz2fq8r 3 жыл бұрын
*human interaction*
@AnniePee
@AnniePee 3 жыл бұрын
its cool because in the dev blog they said they meant for her play pattern to be thematically accurate in that she becomes more confident with more stacks which allows her to fight better
@hardlinewinter8040
@hardlinewinter8040 3 жыл бұрын
“In pro play, teams can insanely communicate and follow up on these engages” TSM Spica only wishes
3 жыл бұрын
He's too good as lilia got a 10 man sleep
@ethanfry2007
@ethanfry2007 3 жыл бұрын
Ludens does not proc Lillia passive. The wiki says "Luden's Echo will not apply champion-specific spell effects," ie it won't proc dream dust, but will proc torment/spellvamp. In the clip he used, Lillia's e aoe hit all three people, ludens didn't proc it.
@michaelc.r.6416
@michaelc.r.6416 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was confused and tried to say "Lillia's passive procs Luden"
@a200037
@a200037 3 жыл бұрын
Was searching for this comment, Luden and Runic do NOT proc her passive.
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
the ball actually does an aoe splash upon hit, which is why you often get two targets from that to ult.
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
@@justteleporting why?
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
@@justteleporting Ok so we agree and your only gripe is that basically that you were not credited. hmk.
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 3 жыл бұрын
Why any champion is good in competitive and bad in soloQ: Your teammates suck
@lukastreurnich7893
@lukastreurnich7893 3 жыл бұрын
That or your team mates play with their monitors of.
@escound
@escound 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukastreurnich7893 which is the case in most games
@SolMrBadGuy
@SolMrBadGuy 3 жыл бұрын
switch it around, people just suck with Lilia.
@LightVelox
@LightVelox 3 жыл бұрын
@@SolMrBadGuy if that is the case why do every champion rises their winrate but not lillia? your logic is nonsense
@SolMrBadGuy
@SolMrBadGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@LightVelox because most people suck with Lilia, and shes picked often?
@savagecabbage553
@savagecabbage553 3 жыл бұрын
"Laners in Solo Q are CONSTANTLY crying for ganks" Me, a JG main: My god you have no idea.
@DanteCrowlley
@DanteCrowlley 3 жыл бұрын
*I prefer when my jg plays on the strong side or punish the enemy jg, ganking me bot is fine, but I think punishing aggressive jgs is better than ganking weak side*
@egekazkayas8968
@egekazkayas8968 3 жыл бұрын
As a rengar player , when someone asks me to gank the xerath in the neural midlane before 6 and cries when we somehow dies to that xerath is heartbreaking
@dewaalit8984
@dewaalit8984 3 жыл бұрын
@@egekazkayas8968 lmao true lol even with 4 stack ganking laners early game is hard especially the ranged one
@comfortsaliu2998
@comfortsaliu2998 3 жыл бұрын
Don't even get me started about ur midlaner losing to a zed..... It's literally game over if u re not playing an op jgler
@ozymandias8523
@ozymandias8523 3 жыл бұрын
Ege Kazkayası nothing better than a darius top crying for ganks when he is 0-4 and is pushing his lane without vision of the enemy jungler.
@rain407
@rain407 3 жыл бұрын
Im super glad you’re uploading now Dong like in the old days :)
@yanthysosick9361
@yanthysosick9361 3 жыл бұрын
How to deal with ganks from years ago still hits different
@rain407
@rain407 3 жыл бұрын
YanthySoSick Thats a true CLASSIC!
@muhammadrizkyalfathadiwira9817
@muhammadrizkyalfathadiwira9817 3 жыл бұрын
@@yanthysosick9361 gigguk
@monke2103
@monke2103 3 жыл бұрын
The moment they release the new ap brusiers items she will become top tier
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Cursed Demonhelm will certainly make Lillia a powerful champ.
@kevinm8562
@kevinm8562 3 жыл бұрын
Welp mord is gonna have 3 core items now
@KyoMeh
@KyoMeh 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinm8562 liandry's will be most likely removed cuz of demonheld
@nicodemosd.jonatas1600
@nicodemosd.jonatas1600 3 жыл бұрын
nunu in the corner salivating for ap bruiser item
@suckerman7gm
@suckerman7gm 3 жыл бұрын
@@KyoMeh Demonhelm is most likely won't be activated with damage over time effects. (Such as Teemo's poison and Brand's passive)
@lanfour4444
@lanfour4444 3 жыл бұрын
1:06 I see what you did there Dongo boi.
@epser5842
@epser5842 3 жыл бұрын
lmaooo I just noticed. I was thinking her portrait looked a little weird
@digitalnation2876
@digitalnation2876 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidanbelza1709 Heca + Neeko = Lilia
@animegx45
@animegx45 3 жыл бұрын
I've suddenly heard thousands of solo-que Lillia getting executed all at once.
@SandjyLima
@SandjyLima 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's exactly what i do in Lillia. I permafarm and am level 6 before my laners. I can gank with her stupid sleep and i am constanly ahead of the enemy jungler. But yeah, it's annoying as hell when people are constantly spamming help pings
@NodokenStar-k917
@NodokenStar-k917 3 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is take the gut.
@screamtheguy6425
@screamtheguy6425 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought I have to get as much early impact as possible. So apparently you don't unless it's given.
@SandjyLima
@SandjyLima 3 жыл бұрын
@@screamtheguy6425 Exactly. I only gank pre6 if i am in the perfect place at the perfect time. Otherwise, i will be losing tempo
@actjokinglyric830
@actjokinglyric830 3 жыл бұрын
Thats how i usually play fiddle. But instead i invade on multi camps like raptors because the enemy jg can't really kill me unless they have good cc to stop drain.
@CutACrow
@CutACrow 3 жыл бұрын
As a kayn main. I felt this. People dont understand that a Lee sin/olaf/etc is gonna gank early and I'm gonna farm with the occasional gank
@shacolin6546
@shacolin6546 3 жыл бұрын
"In the current meta, most junglers are gank centric" The meta: Graves, Kayn, Fiddlesticks, Evelynn and Karthus
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 3 жыл бұрын
Karthus just presses R and ganks all 3 lanes at the same time while invading the jungle, smart
@R4M1R0MC
@R4M1R0MC 3 жыл бұрын
Kayn?
@sandortojzan5409
@sandortojzan5409 3 жыл бұрын
I see Graves, Kayn and Evelynn players ganking all the freaking time. A lot of the time they fail, but if things go right, then they pretty much snowball out of control (Eve and Kayn are the worst offenders here, due to Kayn's infinite mobility and Evelynn's perma invis with the ,,not this time" button).
@dwight3555
@dwight3555 3 жыл бұрын
@@LutraLovegood It was so beautiful when I just got level 6 during a game and immediately thought "Oh, the enemy midlaner is low-hp, I should ult!" and a few seconds later I got a triple kill because the enemy botlane was also low-hp... _SKILL_
@galvaboy1114
@galvaboy1114 3 жыл бұрын
fiddle is a team reliant champion, without a team he can't do much in you know, teamfights
@ToddHowardWithAGun
@ToddHowardWithAGun 3 жыл бұрын
6:40 Pro players can communicate to each other instantly to follow up on these [Lilia sleeps] TSM: Hold our beers
@ed1659
@ed1659 3 жыл бұрын
7:37 i would say ALWAYS buy control ward if you have enough gold for one. Its season 10 already but still in most of my games 6 out 10 players bought 0-1 control wards per game in diamond and below.
@mort6578
@mort6578 3 жыл бұрын
i made it a habit really. i typically dont leave base without a control unless im so behind i dont even wanna leave my tower
@Nilloc1221
@Nilloc1221 3 жыл бұрын
6:12 Runic / luden's echo does not proc Lillia sleep, I just went and tested it. Would be nice if items could though.
@mushiim8
@mushiim8 3 жыл бұрын
yeah he got the Lillia e splash effect confused with Ludens
@Ayzev
@Ayzev 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever died to a Luden's or Comet proced by something that didn't hit you? Did it feel nice?
@saltyreboot
@saltyreboot 3 жыл бұрын
the ability description says "anyone affected by her Dream Dust"
@darealslimjimmy9232
@darealslimjimmy9232 3 жыл бұрын
Tower damage also doesn’t proc Lillia sleep. You can use it to punish people diving :o
@mypersonalaccount4934
@mypersonalaccount4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@saltyreboot no, the comment probably meant that luden didn't wake them up
@RobinsonFang
@RobinsonFang 3 жыл бұрын
This video broke my heart, DongHuaP sounds like he enjoyed playing Lillia in solo queue but also had a horrible experience xD
@LuckyGnom
@LuckyGnom 3 жыл бұрын
I can already answer why Lillia is garbage in soloq: because people that play her have no idea how to play jungle. If you will check the challenger win rate she's sitting at alright 50.5%. Fundamentals > Champions.
@oxey_
@oxey_ 3 жыл бұрын
the same thing true for Akali, and i think both are champs that have really unique kits that are really hard to master. it only makes sense
@timbaws1346
@timbaws1346 3 жыл бұрын
She has a 1000 game sample size in Challenger which is nowhere large enough to mean anything. Last patch she had a 44% winrate in Challenger and the patch before that 46%.
@Lafeon09
@Lafeon09 3 жыл бұрын
the problem with jungle is that you can't just queue up and and follow a step by step script on how to play the game, you need to constantly watch and think about what you're doing next in response to the map. But people are too stupid to play and think at the same time so without their little script they're finished
@cavemansalty
@cavemansalty 3 жыл бұрын
naw its literally just good teamwork vs no teamwork
@sr.365
@sr.365 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lafeon09 people tend to forget there are always 3 ways a jungle game can go. 1)Both you and the jungles begin at your camps, finish your clear and then move for a gank at either bot or top. 2) you're moving in for a full clear but enemy jungles went from blue to red(vice versa) and rushed a lvl gank on a lane, possibly securing a kill. [This can be flipped for friendly jungler scenario as well] 3) you're moving in for a clear but the enemy begins to counter jungle because they obviously have strength over you in the early game. (I.e, an olaf, warwick, etc.) [Can be flipped as well] I've been told that as long as you have these 3 simple scenarios on your mind and quickly adapt to the one going on in the first few minutes, you can easily keep up with the game. However, the scenarios can easily get flipped on their head and go from one to another. Thats when people start panicking.
@dontoro1756
@dontoro1756 3 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to point out how much i really like you and what you do on your channel there was a period in time where you were gone but im glad your back to making videos keep up the great work man!
@MrReese
@MrReese 3 жыл бұрын
Another problem with Lillia at the monent is that Riot has been releasing a lot of champions in a short amount of time, which is unusual and Lillia is not a champ with an obvious identity like a Yone. People did not have a lot of time to play her, experience her and get to know her properly before new champs came and overshadowed her.
@MrReese
@MrReese 3 жыл бұрын
@Baxi Tabaxi And you are responsible for the most useless comment today, a comment that has no relevance or correlation to the initial comment. Congratulations.
@MrReese
@MrReese 3 жыл бұрын
@Baxi Tabaxi What the hell are you talking about? Nothing you are writing is in any way related to my comment. Just let it be.
@scottallan1105
@scottallan1105 3 жыл бұрын
riot didnt have this problem is 2013 when they where dropping champions every week or two for a bit. Riot needs to actually sit down and test the champions instead of taking 6 kits and making a champ to dump out
@MrReese
@MrReese 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottallan1105 Back in 2013 things were a lot different, they wanted to expand, the LCS was in its first year and I remember not being able to catch up with all the champ releases and the IP cost of them. Getting BE for champs is still a big grind as I recently started a new account and the BE influx dries up really fast at around lvl18
@rainbowg9803
@rainbowg9803 3 жыл бұрын
@Baxi Tabaxi you got the point but not under this comment, please delete it it's make you look like a idiot
@TheSorrowfulAngel
@TheSorrowfulAngel 3 жыл бұрын
Something that is important to note: Lillia has this very weird, unreliable "gloabal" presence with her E. It can actually be used to great effect. Sure, its not reliable - but it has the opportunity cost of about 3-4 seconds and hitting that across the map E might give your laners just the edge they need - you can even follow up with an R. For runes, I found Cheap Shot and Ravenous Hunter to be extremely important for her. Both of those runes overperform SO much on her, its crazy. Taking them is a must. Between phase rush and Dark Harvest, I think its pretty... similar and more of a personal preference, really. Dark Harvest currently has a higher winrate at all levels of play, too, so dont feel pressured to take Phase Rush, its really a toss up. Dark Harvest is not just a generic dmg rune on her. It is is especially strong with her kit. Long lasting(especially with Liandries) AoE DoTs are GREAT for proccing DH. Her random global Es sometimes get your free stacks from it(and make them all the more lethal for picking up a stray kill or assist). Phase rush is good, but so is DH. In terms of jungling style, Lillia really is not that early game focused. She farms well, duels passably(she can often escape bad duels, too) and has really powerful powerspikes. Her R is an amazing ganking tool, making for a good "If R? Gank. If no R? Farm" style. Runic Echoes grants her a ton of bursting power(as with basically any AP jungler - the item feels a bit overtuned to me, tbh) and thanks to your great farming, you can reach it reliably fast. And her build... while her core is set in stone(runic, rylais, liandries), the rest is pretty flexible. Her damage works so well with these items that you can just stick two full tank items on her and still do good damage. An offensive version - like Zhonyas+Banshees - is very effective, too - your build already has a good chunk of health, so those resistances do a lot of work. Personally, I like Frozen Heart on her in some games over Zhonyas(or both). Spirit Visage is surprisingly good due to how high Ravenous Hunter healing values end up being later on. A lot of options that most people do not realize exist. And lastly, I think the reason Lillia underperforms in soloQ is due to her kit being... extremely punishing if you make mistakes. You NEED to kite well, dodge well and all that good stuff. Thats why you got a boatload of movement speed. You need to weave in and out of fights, get the perfect timing for Rs off, dodge most of the stuff thrown your way and.... doing all that, you are still not a burst mage or assassin, you do dps. And one single misstep.... and you are dead. There are a LOT of opportunities to misplay with her, moreso than on many other champs. And misplays get punished hard. That makes her defacto unreliable. On the other hand, in proplay especially(even moreso than challenger).... They wont do missteps, only very rarely. That turns her around from unreliable to very reliable, as her kit cannot be countered easily if the Lillia does everything correctly.
@ThiagoMnab
@ThiagoMnab 3 жыл бұрын
her E is not easy to target. people thinks just because its "global" that means is free lol. I think its her weak skill by far. Close you need to guess and throw, animation is slow, enemy can predict and dodge easy, i love her play style, Somehow reminds me a bit Singed.
@Reptar642
@Reptar642 3 жыл бұрын
Nice videos man, you're like the only guy putting out original content thats different
@yoshidasaki17703
@yoshidasaki17703 3 жыл бұрын
Well... Pros has map awareness and comms infos... Solos otherwise... Sometimes forgot to switch the monitor on
@HealersRoots5thSeed
@HealersRoots5thSeed 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really look forward to your videos
@calrndown
@calrndown 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the beat. Thanks Dong !
@c3ntravaswani427
@c3ntravaswani427 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing her for a while now and am having tons of fun with her, as well as plenty of success (although I am in silver so anything can work). I think she's perfectly fine as a champion. She starts picking up speed as soon as her first back and just gets better from there. My only problem with her right now is that her build path is incredibly rigid, which should get better when preseason starts with the item system rework and they add back AP bruiser items. I actually really like her power farming playstyle since you can end up getting a massive level lead. When you get ahead from farming she's also a surprisingly good duelist, almost to the point that its toxic since you play like a very pissed-off Singed.
@blacckwolff6178
@blacckwolff6178 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back dong we missed you! Mohawker says hi!
@zane8241
@zane8241 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u, you made my day talking about my main :3
@mrmunto2172
@mrmunto2172 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video
@alexvandermeij2776
@alexvandermeij2776 3 жыл бұрын
7:32 ah yes, the fefillable potion
@JoshDoes
@JoshDoes 3 жыл бұрын
Best video on lillia so far thank you.
@DanteCrowlley
@DanteCrowlley 3 жыл бұрын
*Well, she needs mechanics and coop plays to full potential, just like Ryze, Azir, etc*
@dancingpotatoes6724
@dancingpotatoes6724 3 жыл бұрын
Mechanic - fucking fast deer go brrrr, coop, her ult is global, mechanic fucking sniper
@nutsquirrel84
@nutsquirrel84 3 жыл бұрын
azir and ryze sclaes so much better. its so hard to carry with lilia. she is so fun to play but i am always losing even though i win with her at mid lane.
@lunacy5510
@lunacy5510 3 жыл бұрын
Her mechanics is controlling movement and having on point spacing. She is a kitting jungler just like Nidalee. She is definitely way harder than an average jungle champion but yeah ofc there are harder ones like Graves or the same mentioned Nidalee probably.
@emran32
@emran32 3 жыл бұрын
I respect your videos for zero ads
@xplpex
@xplpex 3 жыл бұрын
My strategic to solo/q its to star red raptors and krugs say to your bot late to stay next to the tower and try to maximize her passive to 5 and kite the small krugs to the bush and you will gank like an ghost hecarim
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
Did not know the raptor trick. much obliged on that one.
@donatoliotino1872
@donatoliotino1872 3 жыл бұрын
AP love child of Olaf and Darius who adopted her as a gay couple from Neeko after Hecarim dumped her when he found out she was only disguising herself as a My Little Pony
@senneth8576
@senneth8576 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the "why do i need a bruiser on my team" type of champion.
@jasonfreeman2750
@jasonfreeman2750 3 жыл бұрын
When she came out it reminded me of season 3 blue build Evelyn. I've been in love since
@patheus2915
@patheus2915 3 жыл бұрын
amazing content
@drunklillia918
@drunklillia918 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy that u said that the darkharvest page was not the better one, cuz i play this champ and i get triggerd when people go dh instead of pr
@qualdara4587
@qualdara4587 3 жыл бұрын
@5:45 "QUOTE_IF_NA_SPEEDRUNS_WORLDS_AIRPORT_ANY%" KEKW
@connerhuss1062
@connerhuss1062 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best first clears for lillia is to take raptors leashless then instantly path towards the enemy raptor camp, steal it, then take their krugs. that gives level 3 and you now have the option to gank or put a second point into your Q and continue clearing your own jungle.
@Maleficarum999
@Maleficarum999 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me IO from Dota 2. That hero had 33% winrate in public games (soloQ variation of dota2) for 7 years straight but was always pick or ban hero in pro matches. Some characters are simply not effective without a proper communication.
@michelle8096
@michelle8096 3 жыл бұрын
3:26 2 of the raptors went all the way around the wall lol
@carloszeronio
@carloszeronio 3 жыл бұрын
in solo q your temmates could be animals without eyes haha
@dioguito
@dioguito 3 жыл бұрын
5:53 YO THAT'S ME
@celestialenigma3874
@celestialenigma3874 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using a build that replaces ryalais and I use frozen heart ( I build scepter if ahead but if even go heart) liandries will proc off the slow of frozen heart and most importantly it gives you a bunch of armor and 20% cdr and with the cdr rune and cosmic insight you’re almost at 45% it’s crazy lol and it’s really good for survivability into ad lillia is def held back in solo queue by her early game and having low armor so I find this item extremely helpful, always ban graves or kindred two adc perma invaders are just annoying as hell
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 жыл бұрын
DongHuaP: Lillia is garbage in soloq and only good in pro play Also DongHuaP: Here's how to build Lillia if you wanna play her in Soloq
@serpentine8124
@serpentine8124 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think u understood the video
@leonshirogane5541
@leonshirogane5541 3 жыл бұрын
that her build everywhere man :V
@KidWithTehFace
@KidWithTehFace 3 жыл бұрын
@@serpentine8124 Nah it still makes sense, cuz the video says that if you play her and dont gank (because you're farming like youre supposed to), your laners will complain and get tilted, so its hard to play her in soloq even if you're doing it right
@serpentine8124
@serpentine8124 3 жыл бұрын
@@KidWithTehFace what i mean, is that just because something is hard, it makes sense to give people advice on how to play her, as people inevitable will try her out. So just because they're saying its hard to play her well, doesnt mean u then shouldnt give advice
@KidWithTehFace
@KidWithTehFace 3 жыл бұрын
@Baxi Tabaxi imagine getting mad and going on a conservative views rant in a league of legends video LOL Nobody was complaining about being stuck in their rank due to bad teammates, he literally summarized what he watched in the video And you can't tell me that you haven't been in a game where the jungler didn't gank cuz he was powerfarming and the 0/5 laner started screaming that their jungler sucks and then afks, which is what you might experience sometimes when playing a champion like Lillia or Shyvana when you get teammates with no patience
@user-ug4kt1rm4v
@user-ug4kt1rm4v 3 жыл бұрын
Finaly. An answer.
@bungercolumbus
@bungercolumbus 3 жыл бұрын
Flash inside the whole team ------> Q and ult -------> zhonya ---------> CONGRATULATIONS THE WHOLE ENEMY TEAM IS ASLEEP
@ayasurya5643
@ayasurya5643 3 жыл бұрын
and your whole team retreat while enemy cced
@yoshishuhaist
@yoshishuhaist 3 жыл бұрын
Then your team blames you on why you engage.
@shadenym5094
@shadenym5094 3 жыл бұрын
---> you’re in stasis so you can’t kill them---> your team doesn’t follow up on your engage and you die. I’ve had it happen, it’s so sad
@fruitpenguin6285
@fruitpenguin6285 3 жыл бұрын
20 likes in less than a minute, keep up the good content Dong
@kuba2466
@kuba2466 3 жыл бұрын
One of best league youtubers for sure
@dimigaminghd4523
@dimigaminghd4523 3 жыл бұрын
good video matthew santoro
@Ion0X
@Ion0X 3 жыл бұрын
"Animals without eyes" ...Damn 🤣🤣
@mithrasabyss2765
@mithrasabyss2765 3 жыл бұрын
Ion0X more like without a brain.
@BlocksandBlox
@BlocksandBlox 3 жыл бұрын
clean ass editing this video
@holycrapitsachicken
@holycrapitsachicken 3 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense now. +2 level advantage is a huge deal.
@MananaMan
@MananaMan 3 жыл бұрын
the music was nice
@MatthewMorganReddwood
@MatthewMorganReddwood 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t t wait for the donghuap effect and have lillia taken from me every game because he revealed the secret power that she had
@cathiddenonabush
@cathiddenonabush 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has so much high quality content he should have at least 500000 views per video
@destroyer-tz2mk
@destroyer-tz2mk 3 жыл бұрын
You made a great point about her ultimate. She has a limited window for her team to initiate. I played Lilia and she seems like a simple champion at first. But in reality you need to be incredibly efficient as possible and need to require excellent positioning. One of the biggest things holding her back is lack of AP bruiser itemization. With something like Mordekaiser you can at least build tank. But with Lilia, not really. The only good items that are truly good on Lilia is Liandry's Tourment and Rylai's Zhonya's hourglass situationally but you shouldn't always be building it.
@omarijackson1034
@omarijackson1034 3 жыл бұрын
boots of swiftness is also a good choice if you're going up agaisnt more slows than hard cc imo
@bryce7540
@bryce7540 3 жыл бұрын
6:17 rip
@ducks7015
@ducks7015 3 жыл бұрын
Im glad this video proves me right. For some reasons since I started playing her I *knew* she was going to be good in pro. But im just not able to play her right. But she just has *so much* potential since day 1
@kacperszyniec8622
@kacperszyniec8622 3 жыл бұрын
what do you think about tank lillia? I've tried it a bit in solo q and it seems pretty good as it allows her to stay in fights much longer. i like going frozen heart after jgl item and liandrys then getting stuff like spirit visage, deadmans etc.
@21nyxx
@21nyxx 3 жыл бұрын
When her ability overview came out I instantly said to myself "how will anyone lose on that champ"
@n-Turbo
@n-Turbo 3 жыл бұрын
are there any good VoDs I could watch for this type of Lillia playstyle to learn and get better with?
@firatyalcin8588
@firatyalcin8588 3 жыл бұрын
" dont see me dont see me dont see me" vs "see me"
@canaldecasta
@canaldecasta 3 жыл бұрын
That's the deer
@OhSwapHD
@OhSwapHD 3 жыл бұрын
“oh laugh”
@egedemir563
@egedemir563 3 жыл бұрын
since general sniper is 13 and challanger we need a riven video asap i guess
@RetirededKat
@RetirededKat 3 жыл бұрын
that might prove to be a challange... hey what does this squiggly red line under the word challange mean?
@mZStarCraft
@mZStarCraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetirededKat Not sure if you're serious, but the squiggly red line implies you've spelled the word wrong (however sometimes the auto detect doesn't work properly) but in this case the word is spelled "challenge".
@RetirededKat
@RetirededKat 3 жыл бұрын
@@mZStarCraft Ah gotcha, I'm probably just mentally challanged.
@stupidron7108
@stupidron7108 3 жыл бұрын
I've actually never tried the "standard build" people have set for Lillia. I've always built her as an AP Tank, so Runic Echoes - Liandry's/Rylai's - tank items depending on the enemy comp. I'd probably get a Zhonya's in there as well but I usually avoid getting caught by running away after a pick or two (and I always forget that I have it). I've been having a lot of success with it, and it's actually really fun, it's like playing Singed but with a huge playmaking potential in teamfights with ult.
@darkjackl999
@darkjackl999 3 жыл бұрын
this is why i built deadmans after jungle item, i also thought the same thing: shes just like singed in terms of play
@Feyolen
@Feyolen 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it’s the communication but haven’t watched the video yet
@Feyolen
@Feyolen 3 жыл бұрын
Partly right but for the wrong reasons
@Apdoxd
@Apdoxd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hungry
@jeremymumme5270
@jeremymumme5270 3 жыл бұрын
Been playing her since release. Very strong champ especially into the right team comps becomes basically unstoppable.
@Dargoonpluush
@Dargoonpluush 3 жыл бұрын
this makes me a lillia main happy
@brucebarnette8631
@brucebarnette8631 3 жыл бұрын
do we seriously still not know how good a move speed differential is? approach velocity ashe/olaf
@Fabiocean2000
@Fabiocean2000 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 what was that raptor doing lol
@Jakcoon
@Jakcoon 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do this for Yummi
@masoncasey3400
@masoncasey3400 3 жыл бұрын
As a top lane lillia main this video doesn't apply to me but I still enjoyed it!
@AndreNGropo
@AndreNGropo 3 жыл бұрын
You can also make a case for TF
@WhiteVampire888
@WhiteVampire888 3 жыл бұрын
if you want to master her you dont exactly do the pulls as he mentioned. you can start solo and hit lvl 4 as scuttle spawns. start redbuff with abusing raptors to heal, do krugs, raptors. at lvl 3 put a 2nd point into q for mana reasons. do wolfs, start blue and while fighting it, get gromp in there aswell. the first smite u use is for blue. you end gromp+ blue with 60% hp atleast, lvl 4 one smite up at 3:15 to 3:25 depending on how good you are. however to get that clear consistent you gotta be kinda good and hope to not get invaded...
@waterbottle2047
@waterbottle2047 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old item system
@GubranGrostein
@GubranGrostein 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how much the overall quality of your videos have become better and better. Keep it up!
@fenixmartin854
@fenixmartin854 3 жыл бұрын
The only tip I can give to anyone who wants to play lillia is to play like a vayne in clash ie go in and out and poke with your q since you can spam it and don’t wait for a perfect time to use your ult and use it to start a team dive or team disengagement since believe it or not a perfect moment to use your q barely happens in solo que, don’t be afraid of starting a fight since in late game you’re tanky and fast af spam your E in the river or throw in any lane when you B or respawn since a little damage goes all the way and it would create a little bit of discord when there’s a fight happening. Lillia’s prime is in the mid game and if you’re gonna gank ask your team to engage first and the chance of them surviving is very high since once the you join them, it feels like the enemies are given perma ignite when you are there. Overall Illia is fun to play since poking the enemies to death with your q and the fact that they can’t chase you with your move speed that could rival master yi’s movespeed while ulting is a tilting experience for the enemy side.
@kevinhobbs125
@kevinhobbs125 3 жыл бұрын
I have an extremely high WR on lillia jungle and top. Actually an insane Darius counter if you play properly and out farm.
@jonathanvasquez348
@jonathanvasquez348 3 жыл бұрын
Efficient and amazing video
@yungyamazaki9512
@yungyamazaki9512 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had tons of success with her personally
@The5lacker
@The5lacker 3 жыл бұрын
6:14 Runic Echoes doesn't apply Lillia's passive or any other champion spell passive, her E is just... innately AoE. It hits everything in a cone behind whoever it impacts.
@epicarl1354
@epicarl1354 3 жыл бұрын
6:40 you forgot to say "unless your team is TSM"
@phoenixflamegames1
@phoenixflamegames1 3 жыл бұрын
This video was made before that game...
@m.jadkheir4032
@m.jadkheir4032 3 жыл бұрын
Make an aatrox or sett guide or some kinda video huap .
@windystick7347
@windystick7347 3 жыл бұрын
Wait did you get an editor or did you improve that much at editing?
@gloomylobster111
@gloomylobster111 3 жыл бұрын
She's a team based engager in a game where the ranked mode is called soloQ
@Purpleninjawv
@Purpleninjawv 3 жыл бұрын
Lilia is ap master yi basically in play. Farm farm some more gank when u can take all the obj.
@lollmaonice
@lollmaonice 3 жыл бұрын
we found our new ryze bois
@ShadowAngelS2K
@ShadowAngelS2K 3 жыл бұрын
He is still using the old Challenger badge
@Confluxi
@Confluxi 3 жыл бұрын
lillia has two l's my dude donghuap
@cabbagehugs4175
@cabbagehugs4175 3 жыл бұрын
Lilia is the ideal version of singed jungle
@vinciiiii5484
@vinciiiii5484 3 жыл бұрын
so... whend do we hear a good mic eq? btw good video.
@nothingnobody7249
@nothingnobody7249 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I main her mid lane in Solo Queue and oh dear god she is really lilting to play against. I tried her jungle for my recent games, and yes communication is really key to win even though I can clear faster and gank faster than my enemy jungler.
@Betroid
@Betroid 3 жыл бұрын
Kindred and Ivern vibes
@igorporfiirio4915
@igorporfiirio4915 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing great with her in the soloq, but I play different than most people, with dark harvest, and getting cdr faster, instead of liandry. I know that maybe it's not the best way, but works way better for me, and I'm doing better with her than other people in my elo (which is gold btw)
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