Why Luke Became a WAY Better Jedi Than Anakin WAY Faster - Star Wars Explained

[@richv1893]

The experiences of Anakin and Luke are vastly different so its easy to see how Luke became the perfect jedi.

[@TaraCicora]

Well, one had a decent home life, and the other had a less so. One had a healthy sense of self, and the other never had a healthy sense of self. These aren't things that either character considered consciously but marked all of their decisions. Anakin literally told Obi-Wan that he didn't want to be special and in both Legends and Canon intended to leave, knowing that it wasn't a match. Luke, not having his father's issues or even a council to answer to was able to grow. Luke learned from his elders' mistakes. Anakin felt pressured by his role, Luke didn't have that. Ultimately, Luke had the talent, pedigree, opportunity, and a calmer demeanor to learn at his own pace. Really, his father wasn't meant to be a traditional Jedi, Luke was the ultimate Jedi, meant to embrace what was best in them. At least in Legends.

[@Voldemort22]

Ok but why didnt you reply from our previous interaction?

[@TaraCicora]

@@Voldemort22 Which interaction? I probably missed the message. I'm so sorry! 🤦‍♀

[@UmieeYasha]

Agreed Luke was THE Jedi. There will never be one like him, none will ever surpass him. That's them facts

[@Voldemort22]

@TaraCicora We were talking about anakins personality and i said he hadnt flaws and you said he lacked wisdom, then you just abrutly stopped replying which was bit odd

[@TaraCicora]

@@Voldemort22 I'm sorry, I probably missed the notice from KZbin

[@dionysisnance4204]

I feel like luke had more freedom as he basically had to recreate the jedi order while anakin was in a much corrupted jedi order.

[@kikagezumi]

I'd say it was more Ossified then Corrupted. The Jedi Order of that time was getting bogged down by it's own rules.

[@gunnerharpole5513]

I wouldn’t say corrupted Jedi order. I would say they are more blind and tied to ancient rules. Anakin had to follow these rules, while Luke, as basically the last Jedi, had the freedom to change them.

[@TheNEOONE1]

Dont waste time trying to reason with stupid 😂

[@Jerboa-Trinty]

Less “corrupted” and more, incompetent.

[@darthtator3549]

​@@gunnerharpole5513That is corruption

[@justinweber4977]

A major component, i think, is that Yoda and Obi-Wan had learned lessons about the Jedi's failings and the missteps they made with Anakin specifically. Also, having the actual Darth Vader/Anakin around as an example of what not to become. Amd, ironically for the idea that Anakin was "too old" and had too many attachments to become a Jedi, i think Luke starting his journey at the age he did actually helped him, too.

[@samsafly9172]

That’s a great last point. As an 18 year old it’s a lot easier to realize how important it is to love with all you have but be able to let go for the sake of yourself than at 9. Anakin would not know why he shouldn’t hold on.

[@xenxander]

In the book, Revenge of the Sith, it was in that text that Yoda saw the flaw of the Jedi council and how they were teaching the old ways, and the Sith were slowly learning new ways to counter the old. Yoda learned, at the cost of the entire order, that he and the masters, were very Vain. It's a hard, very painful, and very expensive lesson for anyone to learn, much less a Grand Jedi Master.

[@battlesheep2552]

TBF it's not like Luke had any attachments, what with the only family he ever knew being dead when he started his journey to becoming a Jedi

[@justinweber4977]

@@battlesheep2552 Which helped drive home the point, really. Anakin wanted to become more powerful than death to keep his loved ones. Luke, by necessity had to learn how to move on and not let loss, and fear of loss, consume him.

[@magicaltour1]

Plus, Luke seemed to have a much easier time socializing and befriending others. Anakin trusted too few, and tended to have a hard time understanding other people. Luke had a much easier time making friends, and his earnestness and empathy for others made it easy for other people to like him back. Could you imagine Anakin trying to befriend someone like Han Solo, or even trying to talk down a Sith Lord? I wonder sometimes what would have happened if Luke met Dooku or Ventress instead of Anakin.

[@andy2200]

If QuiGon Jin was still alive and was Anakin's master, Anakin would have without a doubt, reach his full potential.

[@johnblount1347]

Totally agree. Obi Wan just wasn't ready for an apprentice at that time

[@knowvoid9958]

He was supposed to bring balance to the force by becoming the spiritual body of both sides by experiencing the extremes of each has to offer. The Republic path would never reach it. Jedi after death influence things far greater than in life.

[@andy2200]

@@johnblount1347 True.

[@andy2200]

@@knowvoid9958 Technically. He did bring balance. There were thousands of Jedis that followed the government doctrine and not the force. And the last Sith. Anakin got rid of both of them.

[@knowvoid9958]

@andy2200 the sith are needed, as they are supposed to kill extreme threats that can wipe out the galaxy, its just Palpatine is just overly greedy in comparison

[@kylelancianese5527]

Luke. The strength of Anakin. The calmness of Padme

[@12ryudragon]

If Luke had the strength of Anakin and the calmness of Padme. Would you agree to say that Leia had the attitude of Anakin and the mind of Padme?

[@kylelancianese5527]

@ for sure

[@codename618]

This video made me realize that their different origins on the same Tatooine played a massive role in how they turned out. Luke was raised by a farmer, living a simple life. Meanwhile, Anakin was a slave.

[@Ascension7707]

Luke had raw emotions and traumas but he allowed himself to process them and learn from each mistake while anchoring himself to the light. Anakin allowed his mind to sway in any direction his pride, desire, and fear would take home while still calling himself a Jedi. Anakin’s fear grew so much by the revenge of the Sith book he called it a dragon in his mind. Anakin’s fear grew seemingly overnight went from a slave boy to being called “the chosen one” being showered with praise and success from his raw talent but was not being grounded in control and discipline. Windu would have rooted that out but he wouldn’t have been able to teach him the higher connections to the force Qui Gonn could have. They should have made the exception to train anakin under atleast 3 masters since not only is he the chosen one but he joined at a later age and was conflicted with heavy emotions. Revan in the ancient days did this by choice and gained al knowledge and insight of the force almost unmatched. If anakin was trained under Obi Wan, Windu, and PLO Koon he would have the balance of learning Jedi conduct, self discipline mastery, and leading with your heart as a Jedi and focusing yourself into the light above everything. If Qui Gonn was still alive and I could pick 3 it would be Qui Gonn as his main master and Mace Windu and Anya Kuro as his secondary masters. Under that kind of tutelage. Anakin’s knowledge , skill in the force/saber combat, relationship to the living force, and self control would have been 10 to 50 times greater than who he was by revenge if the sith. Anakin would have a level of control and mastery unseen until his son Luke later on under these masters. Qui Gonn would have helped Anakin gain a true bond with the force and process his emotions and Anya Kuro and Windu would forge within anakin an iron will and self discipline. Sidious would have had his hands full. Anakin would have been virtually immune to the darkside and the Sith would have been rooted out with his force insight after reaching that kind of level . But that’s just my fun head canon would love to hear others opinions

[@TaraCicora]

It is important to note, that it wasn't that Anakin allowed his mind to shift. He was literally unbalanced, in part due to the unresolved trauma that he received no help with but also because he feared his own power. Due to that, he told the Jedi at age 12 that he didn't like meditation (which is a bedrock in Jedi training), Mace literally asked him if he was sure that it wasn't puberty affecting his thoughts. However, if this was taken seriously he could have balanced himself. If he had felt safe to process his emotions he could have worked through them to find himself. If the Jedi hadn't placed him in a room with a Sith for a decade then he would not have had these issues exacerbated. Power aside he didn't desire this special treatment because he was special, but because he was a child who needed it. But the Jedi had streamlined the training too much for the outliers, regardless of the age they joined. It's also important to note that in both Canon and Legends, he is almost never given praise, but treated no less differently from another child, expected to play catch up for starting late. Also, in both Legends and Canon Yoda and Obi-Wan acknowledge that Anakin had 'red flags' that they chose to not handle because he was hitting the only true marks they cared about (learning fast and being powerful). Both of them (thankfully) understood that Luke and Leia would do better with a family than an Order, and they were right. Aside from those few small details (that I made stupidly long) I agree with everything else you said. And for my disclaimer "I am not saying that Anakin isn't accountable for his actions, he still is. No, the Jedi didn't create Vader (though they certainly allowed it to happen). But the nuance of the story is what makes it so good".

[@Ascension7707]

@@TaraCicoraI 100% agree! In fact I may edit my comment when I get the chance. Also there’s something incorrect I realized I said. Where I mentioned how he was showered with praise. He was often treated with disdain or condescension from other Jedi due to his turbulent emotions. I can’t remember the comic but there was a flash back where palpatine was with obi wan watching anakin train and the other students mocked how he’s a slave to his emotions and Anakin lashed out. It of course defused and both parties apologized but the point I wanted to stress is anakin given such a title that is not only valuable but set apart from everyone else also seeing himself progress so much faster than other students fueled his ego dramatically. I think given his traumatic childhood being a slave given this title and seeing what he’s truly capable of wasn’t only a breath of fresh air but a large buffet given to a starving boy. He became someone who grew up to be extremely ambitious. This in my opinion is not bad but anakin led with his ego majority of the time. He wanted to be a master for the importance it gave not the responsibility. Which is why he had such a negative reaction to being turned down. Which funny enough proves the masters out as to why he wasn’t ready. Being powerful is essential for a master but above all being a master of one self. Anakin flirted with the dark as a Jedi and didn’t quite reach the pinnacle nor was he fully aligned to the light like Luke or Qui Gonn who were individuals so deeply immersed in the light they had levels of insight and wisdom other Jedi didn’t have and the light he did have was something he could never fully extinguish as a Sith only suppress. so though he was an immensely powerful Sith he wasn’t truly what I would say “baptized in the dark” like Sidious, Bane , or Malgus. Sith that 100% fully and completely not simply fully aligned to the dark but it enveloped them and channeled through them with zero internal emotional or mental obstructions……damn I love Star Wars lol

[@TaraCicora]

@@Ascension7707 That was a great comic, it was the Obi-Wan and Anakin comic.

[@zalaathrun20]

Like they say, necessity is the mother of all invention. When a skill is given to you or learned easily, you learn to take it for granted, while if you obtain it through hardships, you learn the value of it. It is better to walk a path that lasts, and not trot a path that is sort that leaves you tiring.

[@psycake1310]

Anakin was fed the idea, the notion that he was 'the Chosen One', which impeded upon his natural progression in his jedi training. Even being at nine years old, this would impose a large challenge, and later on a larger ego for him to overcome. Even during his time as a jedi, some of those hardships came in the form were mockery and bullying from his fellow padawans, and the masters not taking special consideration in his training. I say, that if you hope to bring about exceptional results in your pupil, then you must provide exceptional training. The problem is that they lumped Anakin among regular students, and pretty much hoped for the best. Nobody, even if they're naturally gifted or a 'quick study', is going to cope well with it. The best solution for Anakin would've been to not call him 'the Chosen One', until he grew into the role. I do agree with Stupendous Wave's take on Luke though. Every scrap of his training was a crash course, or a piece of jedi lore which he deeply cherished, and implemented into his form. Even his life before taking up the mantle of a jedi plays a role into his development, significant or not. His life lessons from Uncle Owen were simple, but effective. Considering that he wasn't being given special treatment, or harassed by his peers (because he wasn't in possession of them), Luke's training thrived.

[@boredomkiller99]

Owen influence was great on Luke, yet overlooked, his family in general gave him a great basis to build on

[@name-vi6fs]

It makes perfect sense to me. When you're forced to learn something on your own, essentially being thrown in the fire, you learn much faster than in a regimented environment. Every time I've been in a learn or fail situation in my career, I've learned 10 times faster than in a comfortable environment.

[@lewieanderson6579]

I'm sure anakin let "the chosen one" idea go to his brain. That and he was treated with jealousy by the other padawans.

[@galacticfirefly6060]

Agreed, if you have a wonder-child in your classroom who is destined for greatness, surely will have many jealous bullies after him/her. Also if everyone keep reminding you of what you SHOULD become, your potential will start to deteriorate as you no longer have the freedom to choose. You feel you MUST become something at the expense of your own interests.

[@VintVarner]

And he kept being told he was "the chosen one", hard to not have a ego after everyone telling you how powerful you are, although then they criticized him for being arrogant

[@danieldefibaugh9607]

Exactly what i was thinking seeing the tite

[@superstallion97]

Yoda was a good teacher for the short time he had with Luke. Great video

[@TheHookBoy]

Luke created a new Jedi order while Anakin was subject to an out of touch dogma. If nothing else, marriage and love was not allowed during Anakins time.

[@TheTenzen12]

And that was correct course. What caused Anakin fall to dark side wasn't flaw in Jedi dogma, but councils failure to uphold it. Anakin was too old and had too many attachment, yet they still went against code and that ende to be their undoing.

[@SilasSmith-u2z]

Awesome video Stupendous this has been a question that I’ve wondered for a while and thank you for explaining it and hope you have a great day and May the Force be with you always

[@EumelaninKnight]

Luke and Leia inherited their father's ability to receive a little and create a lot. Luke got a few lessons from Jedi Masters and became fairly formidable in a short time. While Anakin had a goal to free his mother and was stifled and told no even when his abilities had his excelling further than most of his peers. He wasn't wrong when he said he felt held back. Seems the difference of guardians and teacher's perspectives had a massive effect on both their growth.

[@chandansimms9167]

Luke had a bit of padme’s in him. Leia arguably was Anakins daughter whereas Luke was was Padme’s son

[@chadflanaganCFC]

There's something massive that should of been mentioned in this and that's Palpatine and the Sith. Anakin's Jedi training suffered immensely due to his closeness with Palpatine every time Anakin needed affirmation on if he should ignore his Jedi teachings Palpatine usually gave it as "advice". Whereas Luke saw what the Sith had turned his father into, and then went on to further study the Sith in canon during the year he spent learning to be a Jedi, so when it came time to face Palpatine and the allure of the dark side he was better equipped to resist it.

[@erikhasenauer3584]

"Be water my friend"

[@hesamrostamian1186]

''Now this son whose father's existence in this world is historical and speculative even before the son has entered it is in a bad way. All his life he carries before him the idol of a perfection to which he can never attain. The father dead has euchered the son out of his patrimony. For it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir, more so than his goods. He will not hear of the small mean ways that tempered the man in life. He will not see him strug ling in follies of his own devising. No. The world which he in erits bears him false witness. He is broken before a frozen god and he will never find his way.'' - Judge Holden I think this fits perfectly with luke's idea of ''The Jedi''. There is another part to the story that fits anakin in the same way, in which an old man who had killed another in his younger days has a son, and he raises him to adulthood. after the father's death, the son too, becomes a killer of men, though his father asked him for forgiveness for his crime and was regretful of it. This son witnessed the mistakes of his father and yet, his fate was not better than the son who did not.

[@eds1942]

Another three things; 1 - Anakin was told he would be some super powerful messiah like character that would fix all of the problems with the galaxy. Luke had no idea of his potential, and it wouldn’t be until many years later that he even found out about the Chosen One prophecy and Anakin’s and the Skywalker’s connection to it. 2 - the Jedi Order took a long time training their adherents to become a Jedi for a few reasons: a) they give them a full education which includes additional languages and communication, civics, law, leadership, negotiation/counseling/psychology, the Star Wars equivalent of things like social studies and geography, piloting, maintenance of equipment and I would assume paramilitary skills for martial skills beyond lightsaber dueling, navigation and basic survival and security skills. b). They also don’t want to advance the more gifted students too fast or let too many the weaker students slip too far behind their peers, since both would create resentment. Luke had most of what he needed already. Only lacking in the areas of leadership, law and of course any understanding of the (Force). So, that cut the need for a decade or more of Jedi training right there.

[@zedbruh7212]

One of the things that makes Luke's story special is his humble beginnings Instead of some epic tragedy he grew with a caring family He had the strength of character to overcome his darkness where most jedi did not having never known another way of life

[@kevin-2.1]

Great video and I like that you try to make Anakin not as bad. That you make them both sound good as Jedi.

[@stepabuv842]

Great video and pinpoint accurate IMO. The force is like a constant flow of water. A sensitive is the vessel. Luke's mindset and approach was like a fully opened spout, and Anakin was not.

[@TheStupendousWave]

I think you nailed the analogy there!

[@VaderMT]

Great video. Good comparisons. Great analysis and explination.

[@michaelrowley6069]

Wow. That was so insightful. I am stunned.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

If Dooku had been Anakin's master he would have been taught the true nature of the Force much sooner.

[@GamingCentralTV1]

It just boils down to their experiences in life along with who teached them. Obi wan wasnt rready to train someone like Anakin. If qui gon was alive we probably wouldve had the most powerful jedi ever. Even Yoda probably learned so much from that experience leading up to Luke, so he used those learning lessons to keep Luke on the right path.

[@dragonlord498]

a few reasons i would say 1. he didn't have as much trauma since he was never a slave 2. he had more talent not just a high raw force power potential (why he could at least reach padawan/knight level with only 2-3 months of training) 3. he had better teachers and knowledge such as what he learned from vodo and similar ancient sources of knowledge and training where anakin he may have hada rushed education but also much of the most useful knowledge he was prevented from accessing same with the rest of the order one reason he and other jedi for example never used force ionize during the clone wars despite fighting mainly droids nor did any jedi have the ability to use force stasis a very pacifist power perfect for the peace keeper jedi of the pre clone wars era 4. luke was more humble and hadn't been convinced he was a chosen one from a young age

[@raymondmartens7803]

I've watched many different videos that explain just how powerful Luke became, and yet in the prequels, he's a shell of what those videos explain. It is very difficult for me to wrap my head around what happened to him. He was able to destroy Abaloth, and yet they show him as this hermit drinking blue milk. I shake my head at this.

[@treiwilson9445]

I believe the Jedi never really believed in Anakin and were afraid of him and his abilities. He would have been better as a Jedi Sentinel than a Guardian. Luke had to literally start from scratch and build up after the order had fallen.

[@Rohirin]

If his mom had been there, he never would have fallen to the dark side. Why? Picture every time Obiwan scolded Anakin for his shenanigans, and now replace him with her. Not only is it hilarious, but the reveal when she finds out he's with Padme would be priceless.

[@kevin9218]

Anakin was too old to begin the training.. yet they forced him into the same type of training as any other youngling. The method of his training was ill suited to someone of his age and emotional development. This is why the Jedi had the age rule. Because Anakin was so developed by the start of his training, he struggled to accept the indoctrination. Being pushed into a strict belief and behavioral system resulted in Anakin feeling repressed and confined. He rebelled against it. Luke's training was very different from a normal Jedi youngling. He wasn't being indoctrinated, he was simply being taught information and skills, and it was left up to him to accept it. The more lax training style of Luke probably would have resulted in a better outcome for Anakin as well, but he may still have chosen not to accept it.

[@GabePlaysYT]

Anakin was simply never allowed to be himself. He's cares so deeply for his friends and loved ones, but was told that's a path to the dark side. The Jedi feared his powers, but wanted "The Chosen One". Qui Gon was killed and he had to be trained by Obi Wan who initially didn't like him and was like a C student trying to teach a prodigy. So many reasons that made an environment so detrimental and antithetical to who Anakin was as a person. Luke however never had the burden of being "The Chosen One". He never had to feel like he was being held back or stifled. He never had an overbearing master or jealous classmates. He was eager to learn and didn't have the same pressures to conform. This freedom to be himself, grow at his own pace, learn from the past without being controlled by it, made him the ultimate Jedi.

[@AuthoressDilophosaur]

Loved this video, and as someone with a huge and personal fascination with psychology, I think another angle to consider is that Anakin could also be easily diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I forget exactly where I heard this diagnosis - Cinema Therapy, I think - but given his impulsiveness, poor emotional regulation, and series of high highs and low lows across his life, it makes sense. Meanwhile, Luke seems to think and act like someone without mental illness; he might be mildly on the spectrum, but it's so mild that it doesn't really have any significant impact on his daily functioning. So, once again, despite the hardships he and his family faced growing up, he still had a far more normal life and psychological development than Anakin, not to mention that he wasn't surrounded by an order based in diametrically opposed philosophies, major socio-political stressors, and never once seeming to really acknowledge that mental health problems beyond a lack of discipline seem to exist.

[@metascrub285]

So glad you made this video. People could not believe that a Luke with bearly any training surpassed anakin from the prequel era.

[@altrocks]

The end of the Obi-wan series showed the real difference. Anakin was a slave his whole life. Mocked, exploited, underestimated, and having to be extra confident to survive. Then at age 11 he becomes a monk and is told what to do, has his judgement questioned or outright dismissed, and feels mocked by lesser Jedi who ruled over the order. Luke got to be just a boy. He had as happy a childhood as possible for a boy on Tatooine under imperial control. He had already matured when he began training. He was humble, to a fault, but powerful and caring.

[@coletrain6545]

Didnt have palpatine hanging over him all the time

[@DeathScepter]

true, and Palpatine is a cancer of the force

[@yokaivegaurd8707]

​​@@DeathScepteractually he was a balancer of the force not cancer he helped the real Skywalker legacy to come to the prophecy. Papitine destroyed the tumor Darth plagius the Wise. Not hard to see

[@Dirtbag645]

What a great video 👌

[@nathanielbables8652]

Luke seems to have more in common with Obi-Wan and Padma, then his dad. Anakin seems to have the most in common with his daughter then his son.

[@lewieanderson6579]

Lack of a father figure hurt anakin.

[@justinweber4977]

@@lewieanderson6579 Anakin had Watto, though

[@robertrouse8945]

Perfect the way you presented the 2 😊

[@TheStupendousWave]

Thanks, I tried my best to get across their differences.

[@robertrouse8945]

@@TheStupendousWave job well done 👏🏾

[@RMP_VA]

Also they took a boy who wax a former slave,abused , filled with emotions who had established attachments and tried to train him like a child born in the temple who will easily accept what is being taught..like what did they expect and on top of that you let obiwan who was barley a Jedi knight train him instead of council master or at the least an experienced one . Like no doubt obiwan proved him self by taking down maul and could’ve easily trained any other student but Anakin should’ve been trained by Yoda , Windu , Plo Koon or Shaak Ti at the least

[@magicaltour1]

Plo Koon would probably have been the best choice, with Shaak Ti a close second.

[@aster4jaden]

Anakin had a harsher life, he was a former slave and at the Jedi Temple he was bullied by peers who was jealous of him and mistrusted by those who should've guided him.

[@Dare_To_Game]

I feel like the simple solution, is Anakin never should have been told he was "the chosen one" That was always a recipe for disaster.

[@sirtriston8882]

Other than when he was sliced and diced and laying in a lava pit when was he told that??

[@chill_will9816]

​@@sirtriston8882I guess it comes down to how well known the prophecy of the chosen one is in the Order. If it was halfway well known or even just whispered about, i imagine some kid with a M-count higher than yoda's being given training despite being "too old" might have elicited some gossip. But youre right, we dont know if he knew they thought he was but he might have figured it out

[@sirtriston8882]

@ speculation nice

[@edwardphillips7066]

Knowledge is power. And when a person has too much knowledge comes with a lack of humility. Lack of knowledge is greatly humble for knowledge. So, knowing everything doesn't make you powerful. Being humble with knowing everything makes you more powerful

[@Hebrew_hammer52]

Mr. Ethan, Did Vader recognize Anakin’s lightsaber when him and Luke fought on cloud city? I’m sure this has been addressed before so sorry if this is a stupid question. I also haven’t watched the OT in quite a while

[@andrewparnell5566]

9:50 Water can flow, or it can crash.

[@summers1]

What best helped Luke become an exemplary Jedi and help reform the order was the lack of Jedi Luke learned of the idea of the Jedi as they survived in myth, stories, his two masters as the perfected ideal of the Jedi as guardians of peace and justice; something he could aspire to be rather than what they were at the end of the Clone wars dogmatic and just a tool of the Senate

[@StuUngar]

Luke had the warmth of Padme to flush out the negatives of Anakin.

[@TheChristianPsychopath]

There's a 3+ year gap between ANH and ESB that isn't as clear and he spends a few months on Dagobah (sub light is slow compared to hyperspace). There's only a 6 month gap between ESB and RotJ. So I imagine Luke was practicing the little Obi-wan had taught his that whole time. Even if it was just practicing with the lightsaber remote over and over. He also likely got some coaching from Obi-wan for stuff like telekinesis, which he was starting to get by Hoth. Luke essentially had to rebuild the Jedi from scratch so I think he had to think more deeply about what was important and what wasn't next to Anakin. But yeah, humility and being willing to submit to the Force rather than expecting the Force to submit to him was a key difference. Vader might beat Luke in a fight, but Luke learned when not to fight. I do think main reason Luke bested Vader is Vader had lost the desire to kill his son, so he wasn't going 100% into that Death Star duel.

[@oopopp]

Anakin told you in the movies... "Obi-wan is holding me back!!!" 😠

[@JulioConnory]

Anakin came up as "the chosen one". In a culture where he was resented for it. Luke came up a nobody, scrapping the whole thing together himself, no one to help him after Yoda, at least as far as help being a Jedi. Handed it vs clawed for it

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

Anakin, was taught what to think. Luke, was taught how to think.

[@marktorch9079]

I'm listening to Darth Plagueis Audio book and just got past when he finally runs into Sidious. Sidious, well before he was a padawan knew he had the force, describing it as something the Jedi use if I'm not mistaken, he uses the force to kill his parents and few guards all before he became a Padawon or received any training, I don't know if Luke in legends is different but at least in cannon, he has know awareness of his potential at all, pretty much non existent, for being the chosen on (potential of the chosen one) I think it would be fitting if he like Sidious had some awareness to his force sensitivity and maybe even tap in to some Jedi talents like Anakin and have Force site and quicker reflexes etc.

[@conservativecarnage3783]

It's just plot. With all the experience anakin had he should've been just as strong.

[@stepabuv842]

Anakin had greater experience in combat, but he was cavalier in his approach to the ways of the force. Luke was opposite.

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

1:09 Just an offhanded thought from the statement of their ages. The Jedi forbid beginning force training for anyone older than a toddler and those who lack sufficient force power/sensitivity, but there are exceptions to this rule, Anakin himself being the poster boy of why this is a good rule. But i think they should forbid training in a certain age range. Like from 4-18 or 20 but after that you could be trained, as you've now had enough time to develop a kind of worldview and develop your relationships to the other people in the universe. Once these things are established, I think you could train a Jedi. Sure attachments lead to the dark side but it's the forging of bonds that gives us all strength beyond our capabilities. Like Obi-Wan's secret Padawan. If i remember, he was too old to be trained like Anakin, being 30 at the time i think and he would smoke death sticks, sleep with all kinds of women, basically reveling in the temptations if the universe, all the while marinating a strong light side connection. He used these things to prove the dark side hath no power over him.

[@hansallen2708]

Humility

[@frankdees507]

It’s also worth mentioning which you already did to a degree, that before Luke’s jedi training he was a farmer. Before Anakins jedi training he was a slave. There was absolutely no way possible they were gonna have the same psychological element needed to be what was expected of a jedi. In Anakins case, it’s the last kind of trauma you can simply tell someone to “get over it” about.

[@tev2332]

0:36 that's not *Luke*

[@michaelmaness6368]

Agreed, the sequels don't exist

[@Moggzilla76]

Agreed!

[@UmieeYasha]

That's Buke it's the beta edgy alt of him in another dimension 😂😂

[@mendelson6052]

DEI really ruined everything we loved.

[@spacemanx9595]

​@@mendelson6052blame Rian Johnson

[@HR2007-o3f]

George Lucas changing his mind about how quickly Jedi progress in their skills

[@QuinlanVoss.]

George never showed us prime Luke so what do you mean?

[@123ered]

Or maybe just plot armor in the sense that the galaxy needed Luke so hard that the galaxy guided Luke into mastery? I will shamefully admit I made some star wars fanfics based around the will of the force, basically to point out the "what if" of if the force actually has a will in the literal sense, not as much as a person or in the sense of an ego but capable of planing out things. So what if Luke's plot armor of training much faster than everyone else doesn't come from out of universe but rather from an in universe explanation, pure necessity.

[@123ered]

Sorry for the double post, essentially what if the force intentionally guided Luke to mastery because it, or the galaxy, simply didn't have the time to deal with the empire and Palpatine, while the more pressing and powerful but less immediate threat that is Abeloth's loomed in the near future. TLDR: maybe the force didn't give a damn about Palpatine and wanted to get rid of everything in the way to prepare the galaxy for the fight vs Abeloth

[@Besieged27]

Their surroundings were vastly different. Obi-Wan and the Rebellion embraced Luke and supported him. Whereas the Jedi Order were very & openly reluctant to accept Anakin and did not deal with his trauma growing up a slave. But the most significant difference is that Obi-Wan and Yoda had managed to protect Luke from the Sith's influence both before and during his training. Whereas they had Palpatine/Sidious to have access and influence over Anakin since childhood

[@patrickmckenna8395]

Luke. I can't enjoy anything star wars anymore without thinking about where he ends up. I hope I'll be able to find that happiness again someday

[@kevinpinkney9329]

That was absolutely AWESOME!!! Completely agree, I do.

[@hrstar24]

Imagine if the sequel trilogy took place 5 years after RotJ, and this was the arc they put Luke on: how do you fix the Jedi order and avoid falling to the dark side like Anakin? Would have been a hell of a trilogy, it’s a shame we missed out.

[@morelenmir]

They were equal in talent and it is stated that Anakin by the time of the last confrontation above Endor is actively scared of Luke's strength and speed, or at least very surprised by it. However I think the main difference between them was that Luke believed Yoda and Obi-wan whereas Anakin never truly did. Time and again they both told him the Dark side wasn't stronger, just quicker and easier. Luke learned this lesson and while tempted chose to turn away, to gain the same strength through the Light. Anakin in his several moments of temptation was unable to do so. Plus Luke has a very clear object lesson as to what could happen to a Jedi who fell. No matter how cathartic Anakin's final, unearned redemption may have been I doubt Luke would feel that everything his father paid to get to that moment was worth it.

[@matthewsermons7247]

My Sith Lord name would be "Darth Aneurysm", the silent killer.

[@funnature8679]

It's better that Anakin was trained by Qui-gon from the very start, so it keeps things fresh by keeping things dynamic overall, different, and constant evolution, instead of forced staleness ; long time viewers know his age and a large view on how good he progress and the difficulties about anything related to flashflood study, discussion or peer interaction. He excels in Lightsaber skill, telekinetic force abilities, mechanical engineering and tinkering something that a Jedi Sentinel skills would have. It's honestly right that Luke had little amount of information from the start; he will still choose to learn alot.

[@KepaniGrayson]

Luke had positive influences. Anakin had Palpatine boosting his ego.

[@benhostetler268]

The difference is Luke’s upbringing and the fact he had a healthy childhood. Luke was put in a sink or swim learning scenario and he thrived. Luke in canon did not create a synthetic crystal he got it on Christophsis along with a bled crystal that he cleansed.

[@Mr_Penguins_Pet_Human]

Luke had the freedom to integrate his emotions while Anakin was told to suppress and ignore his. Lesson don't suppress emotions because they very often will eventually vent out as anger.

[@orrenlilly5809]

Yes

[@c6rn6g2k1d]

I think Anakin's impatience was strongly influenced by his need to save his mother. Before he became obsessed with saving Padme's life, he most likely saw becoming a powerful jedi as a chance to save his mother from her enslavement just as Qui Gon and Obi Wan did for him.

[@gokuusf]

You touched on it near the end. Both Obiwan and Yoda were a bit younger and less experienced during Anakins time. By the time Luke came around both of his masters had more experience not only training but with life as well and more time to really think about everything good and bad and what went right and wrong with their training of Jedi like Anakin. So when they both had the chance to train Luke, they knew who he was and did everything they could to make sure he didn't go down that dark path like his father. Just like most people raise children, they learn from their parents, see what does and doesn't work and try to make their own kids better.

[@JakeSweeper]

Not quite with Yoda, who was at least 850 years during the time of the clone wars. If anything, Yoda was too set in his ways to see how stagnant the order had become.

[@unclefred3128]

Sometimes, people try to look for an in-lore reason. However, I think it's more of a movie time constraint lol

[@Carrie449-xyz]

I was all about Han when I was 5 years old, but as I grew, the characters grew, and as a young lady, the EU novels formed The Grand Master that will always be the most amazing Jedi ever, how I love Luke!!!!

[@its23skidu]

Anakin always had a feeling of loss since he [and the Jedi] left his mother in slavery. Luke had his uncle and aunt but left to search for his heritage, his fathers legacy, after it was brought to light from Obi-Wan. Anakin lived in loss. Luke lived in hope.

[@SOTURICAT]

It feels right when Empire ruled there was no so much materials & lessons about Force, Jedi etc... that's why i love Legends material so much vs Canon but im from the Era Legend XD But Luke became perfect Jedi learning from mistakes:)

[@I86282]

100%!!!! 👍👍

[@VintVarner]

Still love Luke had some of Anakin's arrogance in repeatedly warning Jabba about his power. Where Anakin would swing and slice right away, Luke gave Jabba chance after chance and then made good on his promise to destroy Jabba and his empire

[@lolmuffins1]

Luke was constantly in life-or-death situations while Anakin was relatively coddled at the temple for the first 10 years of his Jedi career outside of the occasional dangerous mission. Certainly less dangerous than what Luke went through. Force users generally grow much faster through conflict, Dooku went from treating Anakin+Obiwan like clowns to shitting bricks when he fought them again in the ep3 novelization. Also explains why Sith are typically powerful because they intentionally put apprentices in those do or die situations. And look at Luke he went from a nobody to being slightly weaker than Sideous in a decade by Dark Empire, that is a huge leap in power compared to what Anakin did in his first 10 years

[@TheFiNN07]

"Be water"

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

Luke wasn't detatched from Han, he was planning how to rescue him cuz he couldn't without a plan.

[@InfiniteNaos]

Similar to how the Sith rose from the ashes with the limited knowledge after the Ancient knowledge was erased and destroyed, so it was the Jedi’s turn to rise again this time better and what they were originally suppose to be. The Jed’aii not the Jedi of old.

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

Luke Skywalker would have failed as a Jedi during the Clone Wars / High republic era His unorthodox training served him better instead of orthodox Jedi training. If Anakin had a training Path Luke did then his fate would have turned out much better 🔥🔥🔥 #GoodVideo

[@KahnSkywalker-hy9tl]

Luke's age definitely paid a part in it as he was much older than Anakin when he started. Luke, being much older and having more freedom to be himself, allowed him to grow faster than Anakin. After all, Yoda and Obi-Wan needed Luke to realize his potential to stop the Empire, whereas, with Anakin, Yoda was deeply afraid of his potential

[@bloody4558]

I think the answer is pretty simple actually. Luke had guided training. Anakin had to spend way more time learning things other than force manipulation and fighting

[@chandansimms9167]

Luke was mystified by the greater mysteries of the force and sought too learn as much as he could whereas Anakin was more focused on the here and now and the combative aspects of the Jedi order; Anakin didn’t care much for what couldn’t help him in the moment so I’d say the biggest thing between them two is their mindsets

[@Imylover]

Great summery that I totally agree with. I just wanna add a special thought to it to you all, though. A question you all can seek the answer to if you will: Luke became indeed a greater & better Jedi than Anakin. But had Luke ever become that great, that powerful, that successful if he had not faced his father? What kind of Jedi had Luke been if he had not been trialed with facing Vader & redeeming his father from within? Had Luke truly learned all this mastery, become such a good teacher, if Anakin had not turned to the Dark Side? We all know that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy of the Chosen One thanks to the compassion, faith & even love from his son. But had Luke ever reached his heights without his father? They both reached their ultimate greatness because & with the help of each other. Many helped shape Luke into the man & Jedi that he became. But did anyone do so more than his father? And just because Anakin was Vader when that happened & Luke had to face him as such? It's good food for thought. We may or may not be hard on Anakin & his impatience & attitudes, all the things that drew him to darkness. But if he had never fallen I don't think Luke had been the great Jedi he was destined to be. In my eyes, Anakin's & Luke's lives & destinies are totally intertwined. They needed each other above all else to become what they needed to be & do - with Anakin near his end & with Luke shortly after his Jedi journey had begun.

[@C.R.Cole331]

Luke wasn't surrounded by an Order that was constantly telling him what he COULDN'T do, plus he was more mentally and emotionally stable.

[@AdamDaniel-pn4iw]

Like was an objectively better Jedi than his father.

[@Mctabbycat]

The man Vader wanted to be at the end.

[@definiteg4909]

If only Yoda would have listened to Qui-Gon the Jedi could have had a different outcome😞

[@nathanskywalker1536]

Nope perfect video you definitely hit the nail on the head every thing you said was on point with both characters Anakin was a very gifted talented powerful jedi Knight but like you said also rebellious with anger Luke on the other hand was more calming and patient compared to Anakin Luke is the better Jedi really good video probably one of best ones yet 👍

[@Gor85]

The biggest difference is how they were raised. Anakiin was a slave,he joined Jedi at 9,we know everything. Luke was taught love,empathy,compassion. We had everything. And much more. You were not hard on Anakin at all. May the Force be with you too😊

[@mrlubu2563]

Anakin was not only a great Jedi, but also a grand general. Forged and trained during the wars. They should have kept him as far away from couresant as they could. As for Luke he was fortunate to receive training and guidance from 4 of the greatest Force ghosts. With that I think Luke had the full opportunity to develop himself to become a grand master to face the challenges post episode VI. The lack of trust in Anakin has deprived him to achieve his full potential.

[@xephorce]

legends is the only Star Wars i consider cannon.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Luke didn't grow up in a single parent family (first, with his mom Shmi, and second, with his "brother"/master Obi-wan), so that might have impacted his emotional well-being and steered him away from whatever attachment disorder that Anakin had. This is not to say that people who have one parent out of the picture are fated to the Dark Side, but it is to say that Anakin might have benefited from having the kind of well-rounded and stable nurturing that his son had.

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

I’ve often thought in a duel between Annikin and Luke it depends on which Luke, A New Hope Luke or Empire Strikes Back Luke wouldn’t stand a chance but Return of the Jedi Luke would destroy Annikin and not break a sweat.

[@RumRunneerFilms]

Uncle Owen was just a better teacher and role model.