Why Math is Important

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@TheManolis1984
@TheManolis1984 6 жыл бұрын
Math would be amazing if they werent taught that way. If they were taught as part of actual physical examples. I am a mechanical engineer, I use math every day at work, but i always hated them with a passion.
@upandatom
@upandatom 6 жыл бұрын
haha a mechanical engineer that hates math? that's unusual :)
@TheManolis1984
@TheManolis1984 6 жыл бұрын
Up and Atom Not so much. It might have to do with how math is taught in my country, but from what i can see, it is the same around the world. You start with intuitive things (John has 3 apples and Maria gives him another 4 apples) but then they become this arbitrary monster. I know a lot of people that new how to solve integrals just because they had to but only realised what an integral actually is in university. However my experience is not a representative sample.
@upandatom
@upandatom 6 жыл бұрын
no I know what you mean. I remember in high school i thought math was easy because it was "just a bunch of rules". Pretty sure most students don't really know what they're doing when they're taking derivatives and performing chain rules.
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 жыл бұрын
@Joel Penley biased math teacher agreeing with you
@souravsahoo1582
@souravsahoo1582 4 жыл бұрын
@@upandatom (a+b)2=a2+2ab+b2 What I do with this in my life?????????????
@WordsFromTheMuck
@WordsFromTheMuck 7 жыл бұрын
As an English teacher, I get the, "When will I need this" question a lot. And it's just like you're saying: in a sense they won't. They won't need to chart out plot or solidify their ideas for the theme of a work, but just like you're saying for math, these skills will enhance their lives. The world becomes a richer environment for us to live in when we know how it is put together and how it works. Great video. Thanks for getting people to think. I love it.
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
haha yeah but by the time you've said all that they've stopped paying attention...
@swayamprakashkar9664
@swayamprakashkar9664 3 жыл бұрын
More than imp.,english definitely plays huge role in communicarion skill
@formasi4337
@formasi4337 2 жыл бұрын
right now theres a few billionaires that has math major. even elon musk has physics major. so the answer is simple. to be a billionaire.
@anonymousplayer8174
@anonymousplayer8174 Жыл бұрын
I love learning maths but dont like learning english
@regalmedia9487
@regalmedia9487 Жыл бұрын
we need language proficiency. look at how kids in school talk. dont know 50 words in total.
@Pete-Prolly
@Pete-Prolly 6 жыл бұрын
If someone asks you "when are you ever going to use this?" Proudly say: "Never! But... I am soooo damn great at it!"
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 7 жыл бұрын
My teenage daughter asked me the same question many months ago and, despite my background in science, I was stumped! Of course, I knew that you need it for science if you wanna go that direction, but what if you don't? This video really nails it: It helps you getting into the habit of thinking in a systematic way! And then to think I have been saying the same thing about studying at university for years!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
haha now you can show her this video! I'm interested to hear what she has to say :)
@TheAmazingRaptor
@TheAmazingRaptor 4 жыл бұрын
Math is also the reason for millions of suicides
@OverlordOfNerds
@OverlordOfNerds 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingRaptor It is not maths, it is pressure from the education system
@thatguywhois
@thatguywhois 2 жыл бұрын
​@@OverlordOfNerds yep and that's where the more important questions should be addressed. Why do we need to push and put pressure to the kids on subject that they're not interested and are stressed out because of it?
@mmj5916
@mmj5916 Жыл бұрын
You know even before thinking about the optimization my immediate instinct was that the area that was covered that is covered is bullet hole is totally unecessary the engine is supposed to blow up if bullets hit on it.And the fuel tanks can probably take alot more damage before blowing up or something.Probably the result of watching a lot of engineering videos.
@kenahoo
@kenahoo 7 жыл бұрын
I love this video and the case you present. I completely agree. When I hear the same question, I also like to point out that a HUGE amount of the things we learn in school are not going to be directly required on the job or "on the streets." For example, right from kindergarten we learn things like how to color in the lines, how to play a xylophone, and how to string beads on yarn. I've never had a job that required any of these things, nor has someone "walked up to me on the street" (as students like to put this scenario) and demanded I demonstrate one of these things. Yet these lessons are excellent ways to develop skills as a child and become a more capable and practiced full human being.
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
I agree! I guess the feeling is especially strong in mathematics because it seems so alien to every day life. But as you said, I have never needed to string beads on yarn but for some reason the question doesn't arise in those instances.
@ti84satact12
@ti84satact12 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how many people are agreeing with you about the importance of math and education, in general. However, this comment section and the others like it are like the planes returning with all the bullet holes in the fuselage-we’re missing the ones that are actually getting shot down! I’d like to hear some comments from students who think math and education is useless! They represent the planes getting shot down!
@jameshixson4770
@jameshixson4770 2 ай бұрын
The things you learn in kindergarten or elementary school don't require a lot of time to learn. Math such as Algebra, calculus take so much time to learn, and take time away from learning things that are practical and useful in everyday life.
@vger5857
@vger5857 6 жыл бұрын
Some math is oké, but I still don't know why I had to learn so much about integrals, differentials, and last but not least about 30 rules concerning the use of sinus, cosinus and tanges. On the other hand, some statistical arithmatic made me a lot wiser.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 3 жыл бұрын
It's practice for your logic circuits.
@michelgent7419
@michelgent7419 3 жыл бұрын
I taught for years math quite successfully. And have a degree in physics. I highly disagree. The logic of math should be taught, not the endless useless drills and exercises. It can very much be done, but schools would have to completely change their curriculum
@thatguywhois
@thatguywhois 2 жыл бұрын
oh wow well said, coming from someone with integrity too!
@Socratica
@Socratica 7 жыл бұрын
Math as mental exercise is a great motivator. Use it or lose it!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
haha I've unfortunately somewhat lost it :(
@user-vh4jn4vv8e
@user-vh4jn4vv8e 6 жыл бұрын
I requested you to make video on how to study maths, you didn't. Please do. Socratica
@ainuunia3797
@ainuunia3797 5 жыл бұрын
Math help people make a right discussion.
@J0hnHenrySNEEDen
@J0hnHenrySNEEDen 5 жыл бұрын
And the source of stress Why would i even use it as motivator
@Frosty-eq3zf
@Frosty-eq3zf 3 жыл бұрын
Math motivates me to kill myself.
@ScienceAsylum
@ScienceAsylum 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! I loved the intro bit with the chalkboard and the take-away message :-) Also, the faint spotlight you added to the background has added a lot of depth to the shot. Huge improvement!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Michael Moore from Brain Candy TV gave me the tip at vidcon!
@ProfessorPolitics
@ProfessorPolitics 7 жыл бұрын
So I definitely used to be one of those "when am I ever going to use maths" people. Fast-forward a few years and I'm reading papers based on set theory and working my own piece that looks at a messy mix of maths and stats towards a general theory of Congressional roll-call votes. I'm never going to be a full-blown mathematician or statistician but, by learning the logic underlying those fields, I'm a much better social scientist, educator, and consumer of information. And, also, math and physics is also just pretty dang cool-- as many of your videos easily points out. This collaboration was a lot of fun! I'm really enjoying going through and checking out everyone's videos!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Haha oh, so did I. Pretty sure everyone in my maths class was one of those people. That's why I wanted to make this video. And even if you're not going to be a mathematician, maths is so cool! If only teachers taught more of the conceptual stuff behind the exercises than just focusing on rote learning, that would be great. I'm just about to go through the playlist!
@emanandchill
@emanandchill 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunchi11 you're an idiot.
@BlackJar72
@BlackJar72 6 жыл бұрын
Math can be very useful in programming, at least some kinds -- game programming is especially math heavy. I use a lot of math to mod Minecraft (especially algebra, geometry, set theory, and graph theory), and even have used even more when tinkering with making my game or engine (then the calculus and linear algebra come into play) -- not to mention that algorithms fundamentally are math and designing them is also what makes programming fun.
@Dipscovery
@Dipscovery Жыл бұрын
This needs to be told every kid in primary school and high school. I wasn't the best at math and didn't appreciate it, only as I got older I understood why its important.
@Dipscovery
@Dipscovery Жыл бұрын
@@user-hz9om2ry3h you really missed the message here.
@givepeaceachance940
@givepeaceachance940 Жыл бұрын
In a simplified manner in primary school, but sure
@frederic4844
@frederic4844 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, again 😄 The problem with maths is that it takes a lot to become fluent enough to use it as a « natural tool », without even thinking, but when you can do it, it is very powerful, allowing you to easily recognize trends and patterns and even more, to formalize them like : « uh, this behaves like an exponential » and to think further (what can possibly be the reason for this particular behavior).
@ericselectrons
@ericselectrons 7 жыл бұрын
Brain development and staying sharp is big with me. Although I love physics, the math involved sometimes gets difficult to weather I get through the hard mathematics by doing a couple of things: 1. Simply thinking to myself I'm improving my overall brain cognition. 2. Knowing that in order to be "find things out deeply" since I'm insatiably curious, I have to understand the mathematics behind physical phenomena (I aspire to be a PHd physicist). I think the key for educators is to teach people to think of their personal drivers, in other words their "why," to find the significance of mathematics and science in general. If they're into sports, appeal to that as you've done here. If they're into fashion, appeal to that. Mathematics is everywhere and we should always strive to understand the things that makes us ask questions. Loved your video!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree. During my physics degree math was definitely very taxing and I tried to avoid it if I could. But some things you simply can't understand without doing the math (basically all of quantum physics lol). You miss out on some amazing and wonderful things if you try to avoid it. But math is also very useful just in itself. I think it's because it's so abstract that it is difficult to see the end goal or what you are doing when you solve all these equations and learn techniques. Which is a shame, but it's also just the nature of it.
@busyrand
@busyrand 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic practical explanation! Math is a fully immersive and reflective discipline that is unmatched, and can be applied to anything. I find myself wanting to circle back to things I didn't understand so that I can develop more as a thinker.
@AvenMcM
@AvenMcM 7 жыл бұрын
The soccer analogy is perfect. Great video, as always!
@patfonta8818
@patfonta8818 5 жыл бұрын
everybody uses mathematics to play pool
@iammrbeat
@iammrbeat 7 жыл бұрын
Alright. You changed my mind. :D
@sunchi11
@sunchi11 5 жыл бұрын
Not me
@zoebanlaoi819
@zoebanlaoi819 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunchi11 same
@nilsastrup8907
@nilsastrup8907 3 жыл бұрын
@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen Maybe if it's tought wrongly, but math isn't like that on its own.
@xavierkreiss8394
@xavierkreiss8394 3 жыл бұрын
I have never understood maths above simple calculation. I was "bottom of the class" in maths for years, and since I left school (to become a journalist) I have avoided maths as much as possible. I don't think I've missed anything, it's never been "important" to me. I've certainly never needed it (apart from some very simple calculation from time to time). There are other ways of exercising and using the mind.
@IkarimTheCreature
@IkarimTheCreature 2 жыл бұрын
nitwit
@xavierkreiss8394
@xavierkreiss8394 2 жыл бұрын
​@@IkarimTheCreature Kindly refrain from abuse
@DagarCoH
@DagarCoH 6 жыл бұрын
Came here from Joe Scott. Math was my minor subject at university. And apart from giving me the opportunity to meet my (then future) wife, I think having an understanding about math helps me in my daily life by letting my take up and evaluate anything that has to do with numbers really quickly and without having to put hard mental work into it. Which is quite useful if you read stuff like news articles with some numbers they took from who knows where and use to make you feel a certain way. Or if you read so called statistics done by anti-vaxxers on their websites...
@gruntslayer3524
@gruntslayer3524 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly calc 2 and diff eq were my favorite classes and Ik those aren’t super high level math classes but it was just very interesting to learn all those processes for solving
@ffhashimi
@ffhashimi 6 жыл бұрын
The Problem is not about Math it's about the way they teach math, Great video thanks
@FelicianaDelacruz
@FelicianaDelacruz 4 жыл бұрын
I wish math had been taught this way when I went to college. Engineering school would have been much more pleasant, my professors made it about as enjoyable as a root canal. I actually enjoy math and use it daily in my work as an electrical engineer. Thank you for the wonderful videos. By the way I had the same look in class as the one in your video. Keep up the awesome work!
@TarunKanthK
@TarunKanthK 3 жыл бұрын
If my teacher thought math this way I would have enjoyed the story very well. Then after the actual math class starts. As usual, it will be some mumbo jumbo that don't fit in my brain cells. 😄
@jayjacob9621
@jayjacob9621 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of those rare videos I'm going to show my kids when they are just old enough for the message to sink in. Thank you for your awesome videos!
@Jabrils
@Jabrils 7 жыл бұрын
the animation at 4:17 had me laughing so hard hahaha. great video
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could make you laugh Jabril :)
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@hoo1320
@hoo1320 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jabrils this is really awesome to see you here before 2 years 🙄
@toothpastehombre
@toothpastehombre 5 жыл бұрын
This is now my favorite video of yours. True noble work you are doing with your channel! Much love
@anymaths
@anymaths 4 жыл бұрын
watch my maths videos.
@BryanLeeWilliams
@BryanLeeWilliams 7 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. I have a math minor, computer science major, but I never understood why everyone needed to learn math. My wife passed College Algebra with a failing grade (a very high F), because I was friendly with her teacher (having the majority of my classes in his department) and begged him to pass her. (She needed that one class to graduate and it was her last semester) So I guess I see why it's important we try to understand math. I don't think it should be a requirement for us to pass.
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
What a great husband you are :)
@MrJimbissle
@MrJimbissle 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I have found myself using things I didnt even realize I had learned in school. Its a shame we have lost so much curiosity, as a group. Life is so much richer when you keep asking questions.
@davidbrown8763
@davidbrown8763 4 жыл бұрын
So nice to be able to enjoy a a math/science documentary without being distracted by unnecessary, annoying background music - therefore I will subscribe. Thank you for your informative, enjoyable lecture Jade - please keep it up.
@johncollins1622
@johncollins1622 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you, Jade. I'm a private pilot and former EAA member who used to fly experimental (amateur-built) aircraft. And had an interest in statistics. One of the statistical stories I read about involved the question of where to add armor for carrier-based fighters. They were being shot up in the engine compartment and the fuel tanks but some were still making it back for landing--or sometimes ditching near the carrier and being rescued. But not a single plane had been shot in the empenage (tail cone) where the elevator cable pulley was located. If you lose your elevator the nose pitches down and you crash into the sea. So that's one of the places where they added armor. It was practical because the empennage is so small it involved little weight penalty. I once saw a British aerobatic pilot (Manx Kelly, sponsored by Players--as in "Players Please") lose his elevator while performing a Cuban Eight in Corona CA (early 1970's). He did not survive.
@whocares4592
@whocares4592 7 жыл бұрын
You are so expresive explaining these concepts, great content as always.
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@whocares4592
@whocares4592 3 ай бұрын
@@upandatomi knew your channel would grow, great work!. How much subs you had when you uploaded this video?
@mohamadfaiz326
@mohamadfaiz326 5 жыл бұрын
I understand that mathematics may help with reasoning and critical thinking, but to make it like a tool to see who is more intelligent is flawed. I mean what if in a hypothetical situation a young student dislikes math and isn't naturally good at it, thus making her GPA drop. But in other fields like art and English, she excells at it. So after graduation and applying for an art college, she gets declined because of her low GPA which was caused by her inability to pass math classes during school. Math is a pill that when taken the right amount, can be useful, but when overdosed, it will impair students to be successful . Making higher math like calculus and trigonometry an obligation to credit requirements is irrational and useless. Which is ironic because math was supposed to teach to rationalize.
@SeanPAllen
@SeanPAllen 5 жыл бұрын
@Mohammed Elmouhsine The point still stands. They're two of the most difficult courses a student's final year of secondary school math may hold, yet also two of the most commonly seen throughout American and European school systems. They are the highest forms of math available to most people throughout their final year. Ergo, 'higher' math.
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 4 жыл бұрын
@Mohammed Elmouhsine they are
@merlinthegreat100
@merlinthegreat100 4 жыл бұрын
The point isn’t to obligate the learning of something they’ll never use. It’s to familiarize them with mathematics that was invented 400 years ago! The average joe doesn’t know how google works, how weather behaves, or the algorithms used by tik tok, Facebook, or amazon, much less about how money is managed around the world by quantitative hedge funds and investment banks. People should be aware of how all of these things work
@tinchote
@tinchote 4 жыл бұрын
There's people like me whose GPA was lower because of art, literature, history. We should definitely make art and English not mandatory then, right? And gym too, when are you going to use those squats in real life?
@davidjames1684
@davidjames1684 3 жыл бұрын
2 things: fyoo suh laazh is how you are supposed to pronounce fuselage. The most vulnerable part of the plane I think would be the pilot, since if the engine is shot out, there is still a chance the plane can be landed (or ditched) safely. With no pilot, that doesn't seem likely.
@Juan-yj2nn
@Juan-yj2nn 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it depends. Most of the time math is taught as a collection of nonsensensical rules and formulas. That doesn't develop your thinking at all. So I disagree.
@brainfartstudios2829
@brainfartstudios2829 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm replying a month later. It's true that, while math may include logical thinking, it does inevitably have some rote learning. Hell, that's true for most science subjects, like having to memorize scientific laws and principles. But it's about the way you APPLY those formulas. If all you had to do was memorize the formulas and use them without thinking twice, math would be the easiest subject ever. There's different, unique and creative ways to use those formulas, it's not the same question over and over again. And there's also the fact that there's certain conditions of when NOT to use those formulas. If you keep practicing these questions, you'll definitely become more open minded and start to use more brainpower.
@ResearchTheology
@ResearchTheology 2 жыл бұрын
Just came across you channel as a random YT recommendation .. watched one and now I'm hooked and subbed!! Your content is brilliant. Keep up the great work.
@Motivation45407
@Motivation45407 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't enough to convince anyone to like maths I think. 🙂 But I like your videos very much. You are too good and entertaining.
@santicruz4012
@santicruz4012 4 жыл бұрын
When I started to take math more seriously, I realized that my thought process was becoming sharper, I’m not a smart person at all, but I’m starting to develop skills that I never thought I was capable of.
@ansh7156
@ansh7156 4 жыл бұрын
Maths - Only helps in increasing understand potential and solving in daily life Physics - Does what maths does + actually helpful more in daily life + is everywhere around us + new technologies and inventions could be made So overall if you taught people advanced physics .. it will help them in what math does + other benefits too So what I want to say is dont teach advanced integrals and differenciation or other concepts that are not applied in our daily life Instead teach advanced physics. Right?
@LampifiedOrangePillowcase
@LampifiedOrangePillowcase 3 жыл бұрын
Math makes me go insane EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SCHOOL MAKES ME INSANEEE
@matthewalan59
@matthewalan59 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm. You are so adorable. I have read Jordan Ellenberg's book twice. I should read it again as I am forgetful and it is full of worthwhile ideas. It really is a great book and I am very pleased to see you promoting it. A long time ago I spent almost twelve years of my life teaching high school math at a small community college. I answered the question: "When will I ever use this math?" with blunt honestly. I told my students that they would probably never use any of it. Certainly my pre-nursing students could expect NEVER to have to prove a trigonometric identity while practicing as a nurse. However, proving trigonometric identities is fun. That is why we do it. For the fun of it. Also, because I will not give you a passing mark in the course until you prove them and you will never get into your nursing program without a passing mark in my course. So, even if it does not seem like fun, make it fun. My students were fine with this. I was enthusiastic about my teaching as I believe mathematics is beautiful and fun. I liked giving students some understanding and mastery. By doing so they become independent. They can see that truth is something that is part of reality and not just something made up by someone with the biggest gun. I also liked to show them that with practice and understanding they could become competent and confident with respect to any mathematics they might someday encounter.
@吉米-f9w
@吉米-f9w 3 жыл бұрын
this is what I asked my teacher back in school and THIS is the answer I was expecting to keep me motivated...
@lapse9continuum765
@lapse9continuum765 Жыл бұрын
I'm a math tutor and get this question from students all the time. My typical reply goes something like this: "It's not a matter of WHO uses it; it's a matter of the utility of mathematics in general. We have math to thank for the modern world full of amazing technology in which we live. Math is among the MOST practical tools ever developed by humanity. Since we can never know for sure which students will grow up to apply math toward the benefit of society, we need to make sure all students are at least given the chance. Better to know it and not need it than to need it and not know it." Humanity on the whole needs mathematics in order to thrive, make progress, and accomplish our goals. Being a student in math class means being a part of something larger than yourself -- it's part of being human. (Speaking from experience: most students have a difficult time arguing their way out of that one!😂)
@conjecturemm
@conjecturemm 7 жыл бұрын
Love the new background! Also this chapter reminds me of a chapter in "Thinking, Fast and Slow" about regression to the mean. If you haven't read it I highly suggest it :) Also, great video!!
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@VerifiedNobody
@VerifiedNobody 3 жыл бұрын
genie: aalambana.. You have three wishes.. me: I wish there was no maths genie: Your wish is granted. You have no more wishes. Moral of the Story: Math is important
@baaaj3200
@baaaj3200 2 жыл бұрын
0:47 the real problem is when propeller is not spining while flying by aeroplane
@johnnychang4233
@johnnychang4233 7 жыл бұрын
It's always better having the knowledge and not need to use it than searching for knowledge when you are in the urge to solve a problem.
@pavolgalik9764
@pavolgalik9764 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the perfect video. I am a teacher of mathematics and physics. You know, every person, when he gets on a plane, believes that the plane will take him safely to where he needs to be, everyone who drives a car believes that it will take him safely to where he wants to go, everyone believes that economists will calculate a fair salary for him, whether old age pension. Every day, we rely on a PC or a mobile phone, or on the correct exact time. Etc. As you can see, everyone just believes. But there are people (scientists, technicians...) who initially believed that such a thing was possible, but then they realized their dreams into our everyday reality. I hate celebrities who publicly state that they never needed math or physics. Yes, it is a tragedy when those people who do not understand mathematics or physics at all make majors of people who are experts in math and physics. How can they objectively assess the amount of work done by mathematicians, physicists, technicians...?Finally, I will mention the old Indian saying that all evil comes from human stupidity. Eliminate human stupidity and you eliminate evil and therefore wars. (that could be the motto of the misses:-)) Although we will not completely eradicate stupidity through education, we will at least limit it.
@nasseryousif1222
@nasseryousif1222 5 жыл бұрын
0:20 any questions? Me: Yeah wtf?
@chatlydeguit4873
@chatlydeguit4873 3 жыл бұрын
is that a sam o nella ref?
@scotte2815
@scotte2815 6 жыл бұрын
this same problem was offered to me and it took me 1 second to come up with the same answer. The key is the planes that don't come back
@uzioozy
@uzioozy 4 жыл бұрын
i get that we need to learn numbers and and multiplication etc. but after 6th grade it just gets more complicated and harder to memorize. its not like im going to remember it after 2 years of not doing it.
@einfachorangensaft4879
@einfachorangensaft4879 4 жыл бұрын
I’m studying history and oriental studies and I’ve never came across situation, where I thought I absolutely needed maths but I understand your points. Great video btw 👍
@mathOgenius
@mathOgenius 4 жыл бұрын
I would not be able to watch this video without my phone ,breaking the EM waves into 0's and 1's(Fourier Transform).. because of mathematics,So, it is useful ! Normal people dont see that beacuse they are not breaking the waves into 0's and 1's by themselves.. computers do that that's why most people think maths isn't useful but deep down we all know.. math is everything
@donepearce
@donepearce 5 жыл бұрын
I had exactly these thoughts in my early maths classes. But pretty soon I found I was using bits of this stuff designing radios. Now, many years later, I have used all of it and much more designing components of spacecraft, from communications to experiments. I would be lost without an ability to do advanced maths. Now of course I don't have to perform the actual calculations - Mathcad, Matlab etc do that stuff for me. But I still need to understand what the correct calculation is. And most of all I need sufficient insight to recognise a right answer from a wrong one.
@givepeaceachance940
@givepeaceachance940 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter ultimately if you can perform the calculation, you need to be able to know how to *set up the problem* or even *recognize which calculation to do*
@topilinkala1594
@topilinkala1594 11 ай бұрын
I've always said that studying engineering makes you an engineer but studying math makes you what ever you want.
@passamaquoddy8311
@passamaquoddy8311 2 жыл бұрын
The plane-example gives a wounderful argument.
@Continential
@Continential 2 жыл бұрын
Math has tons of applications. If the purpose of mathematics in schooling was to train reasoning ability, then replacing math courses with logic courses should be advocated for by your reasoning. Your argument also has a flaw since somebody who disagreed could just respond "then why don't you exercise the reasoning faculty of children by having them do activities that are both reasoning intensive AND directly applicable?"
@mrxinnovations809
@mrxinnovations809 6 ай бұрын
mathematics cultivates the right mindset and aptitude for solving problems , the mentality with which you attack maths problems can be the mentality with which you attack your personal life problems.
@lumigg2556
@lumigg2556 7 жыл бұрын
If I only had have a teacher like you I probably could had a chance at being good in math #FeelsBadMan... btw cool animations :D
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)))
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 7 жыл бұрын
Pablo Perez You can still do it! Don't let your dreams be dreams!
@swapnil_1996
@swapnil_1996 7 жыл бұрын
JUST DO IT!!!!!!
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 6 жыл бұрын
Lol classmates would probably be drooling
@alvinuli5174
@alvinuli5174 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make sense but to watch Jade always worth it.
@gguarnieri82
@gguarnieri82 4 жыл бұрын
I am an electronics engineer and now I develop software for image processing. My problem is precisely the opposite: the maths I learned in school is far too simple for my everyday needs and I always have to make research. For a simple brightness and contrast adjustment, I encountered a problem of fractional functional iteration. For high dynamic range imaging, the most effective and efficient approach is to solve constrained optimization problems with millions of unknowns. Noise reduction is often formulated as a nonlinear partial differential equation. Speed is important, therefore Remez and Padé approximations are all over the place. When teaching print to my students, I had to show plots of 6-dimensional functions. I used 4-dimensional Gaussian quadrature to estimate the error un a 3D reconstruction. Mathematical models of photographic film often involve hypergeometric functions. And in a program that reduces the atmospheric turbulence in photos taken from a long distance, I had to use e Fox-Wright function, which is a hypergeometric function generalized 2 times. And finally, since human vision is involved, physiology and psychology also have an impirtant role.
@sumitnaiyaa
@sumitnaiyaa 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to find the answer Ended up studying history!!
@Masoudy91
@Masoudy91 5 жыл бұрын
Mechatronics engineer here, no, not me nor my professor(s) are using math other than university curriculum. And personally, students should not waist their youth by hammering them with how complicated math could be. It is like training with 100kg dumbbells. Some may do it but its the wrong way to train 🚉. However, it becomes really really simple (a matter of plug and play) once you use it. Have you ever made your own rendering engine? That can optimize your product?
@ScienceC
@ScienceC 7 жыл бұрын
Really great video! I loved the soccer analogy and the airplane story
@vincenzodevito6999
@vincenzodevito6999 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to my love of math and science allowed me to get to know you my favorite video producer and mathematical muse. Ps. I love your accent from down under.
@Ed-bj5eq
@Ed-bj5eq 4 жыл бұрын
Software like Maxima, Geogebra, MathCad etc helps a lot with skipping the boring part of math, by symbolically or numerically solving the equations, leaving us with the fun part: building models and interpreting results. Always heated solving equations, computers can do that in most cases 😉
@dutonic
@dutonic 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the video, but the argument feels pretty weak. As a college student in my fourth semester of calculus, there are loads of actual uses for the concepts of what I'm learning. Will I ever need to know how to anything that wolfram alpha could do for me irl. No. And in fact, the second half of differential equations is essentially nullifying the usefulness of the first half by giving us Laplace transformations to solve differential equations. I don't feel like I've wasted my time with the nitty grittyness of calc though. But this is only because I love the process of doing math. If I hated math, I would not feel satisfied at all with my time in math classes in terms of the ratio work:usefulness. If you don't like math, math will suck. Be prepared and assess if stem is really a field that you want to dedicate your life to.
@KhAnubis
@KhAnubis 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone else is saying this, but the football analogy was a really good illustration of a skill set helping one become better at something completely different, like how more basic math can actually be a big help outside of math and science. (My former math teacher runs a channel called Atomic Game Theory, where he applies mathematical concepts to board games)
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Ooh that channel sounds super cool! I'll be sure to check it out :)
@Rise9192Against
@Rise9192Against 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story and referencing "The Power of Mathematical Thinking". I know where to read next in my math journey :) .
@isaacbernardez6193
@isaacbernardez6193 5 жыл бұрын
YES I FINALLY FOUND A FUN VIDEO FOR MY 7TH GRADE MATH CLASS😭 getting kids really thinking about math is nuts
@TheAmazingRaptor
@TheAmazingRaptor 4 жыл бұрын
It’s because it is the main stress factor and reason for lots of suicides
@izawa9211
@izawa9211 3 жыл бұрын
Im not going to be some popular genius do sciensists would visit me After that video as a student i would just kill myself cuz my teacher would say See kids you need to know how to make complicated math and its not like none of you will be so popular that sciensists will never visit you
@niloljk7884
@niloljk7884 4 жыл бұрын
I never truly said “when will this be useful too me” but I wish that someone would assess how much math is being taught. Im not a person to argue with learning (I love Learning, I do a lot of history, English, and science on my own spare time for fun) but the amount of math were learning is used later in university for fields that it is needed in. I guess that’s truly why they teach it all. So they don’t have to go over it in university for those who have peeked interests in the science field and of course “Math”
@rpcruz
@rpcruz 7 жыл бұрын
Great content as always. You really deserve more people! I think you should appear in another famous youtuber, talk to them and do a video for them, so that his/her viewers can see who you are... plenty of people do this to get subscribers...
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! haha I'm working on it ;) I want to get my videos to a really good quality and also upload more regularly before approaching a big youtuber. Gotta have a good channel going to get good help!
@VishalParmar-wc9rb
@VishalParmar-wc9rb 7 жыл бұрын
Now I can die in Peace. Btw, i tried clearing my Applied Maths paper for 2 years...didnt happened. So i quit studies. But i still miss physics. Not Maths ;-)
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 4 жыл бұрын
One thing studying mathematics taught me is how stupid I really am...
@Amethyst_Friend
@Amethyst_Friend 9 ай бұрын
Jade, you look so fed up in the thumbnail! Not an aspect we associate with your enthusiastic personality at all. 😊
@johanpersson5526
@johanpersson5526 6 жыл бұрын
I will definitely do that, right away as I am heading off to teach a physics class. Thank you so much for your inspiring films!
@someperson188
@someperson188 5 жыл бұрын
Of what use is tennis, chess, bridge or math? Tennis keeps one's body fit but injuries often occur if one plays long and hard enough. Chess, bridge, and math keep one's mind fit but many adherents do experience mental breakdowns if one practices them long and hard enough. However, unlike chess and bridge, math can sometimes (but not always) be useful in improving or diminishing the basic conditions of living. Calculus has proven very useful in engineering improvements in living (transportation, refrigeration, electricity, computers, internet, etc.) but, sadly, also in the making of weapons. However, Fermat's Last Theorem seems to have very little effect on the lives of non-mathematicians, as interesting and exciting as it is to me.
@Suman-zp8gs
@Suman-zp8gs 5 жыл бұрын
Mathematics is the language of the universe Great video!👌
@Ken.-
@Ken.- 5 жыл бұрын
When aliens show up, they'll say, "Wait, we learned English for NOTHING!"
@AgentOccam
@AgentOccam 6 жыл бұрын
Phew, so glad you referenced 'How Not to Be Wrong, by Jordan Ellenberg. I've read it and was watching thinking 'hope she credits the Ellenberg book, because this is mostly from that book". And you did. Great book, I highly recommend it.
@rksnj6797
@rksnj6797 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had you for a math teacher! My math teachers who used "practical examples" held my attention better than teachers who would drone on about theory.
@NoDrizzy630
@NoDrizzy630 10 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion but you don’t need to know any of this stuff unless you’re gonna become a scientist or engineer. Most people would benefit more from more relevant curriculum.
@KristubeYT
@KristubeYT 3 жыл бұрын
Sure its important BUT IM DEPRESSED
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 Жыл бұрын
Even the shapes of relatively familiar everyday objects rely on math; for example, if you want to make a box of a certain volume that consists of as little material as possible, then you can do that by taking a bunch of partial derivatives and finding the x- and y-values from those solutions.
@FffXdhgf
@FffXdhgf 8 ай бұрын
A box is a box
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 8 ай бұрын
@@FffXdhgf Yes, but one specific shape will require as little material as possible for a given volume, and this is interesting from an economical perspective. For example, a closed cuboid box will have minimum material when all sides have the same length.
@clipuri
@clipuri 2 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would have told me that 20 years ago, in a convincing and believable way. Like you did.. Too late for me, but thanks.... Actually putting real effort in math class was not pointless, after all. Having a more powerful brain is always worth the effort, no matter how hard it seems at the time you are doing the heavy lifting
@FiVeRowZ
@FiVeRowZ Жыл бұрын
So, it doesnt make sense
@jaylegenhausen2491
@jaylegenhausen2491 4 жыл бұрын
Hey,, that's the same analogy I use in my high school math classes I teach (except I say push-ups and running laps around the soccer field instead of weight- training and cones). Anyway, great video. I am going to show it to my classes tomorrow.
@doylesaylor
@doylesaylor 4 жыл бұрын
I think the basic gist of this video works for me. I would point out notation like integrals symbol are not math. Math is human cognition that uses various technologies to ‘count’. From that it seems to me this observation offers insight about what to do mathematically as you apply to the fighter example. From a neuro scientific standpoint linking math to thought is an open question. A starting place might be subitizing or perhaps comparing various counting species of animals. Mathematical notation is one guesstimate of how to externally express internal counting if you will.
@ReevansElectro
@ReevansElectro 6 жыл бұрын
There are a few mathematicians who realize that what is being taught is actually just the mechanics of math and not really the reasoning and concepts behind it. I excelled in math in college and won half a dozen junior math contests in high school and agree with changing our math programs to focus on the concepts of math rather than the mechanics of manipulating equations. We all use math and calculus every day when we drive our cars: how much speed and acceleration are needed to safely go around a corner, how hard to push the brake pedal to come to a complete stop at a stop light, how much further can I travel with the amount of gas in my tank etcetera. How about estimating the time for the water to fill our hemispherical bathroom sink? Delivering unit impulses to metallic fastening​ devices (hammering nails).
@shubhamnsun
@shubhamnsun 6 жыл бұрын
You are really great at explaining things beautifully
@pandaoverboard
@pandaoverboard 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Great vid and examples :D
@maxw9833
@maxw9833 4 жыл бұрын
U didn't change my mind, i have no passion nor a desire to learn maths and yet the school system forces me to master it. For me the maths that are actually important is in primary school, the rest are all useless (if you don't want to be scientists, engineer, etc.). Reasoning and critikal thinking, in my opinion, is sharpened more in sosiologi and history, which i am already currently learning. So at least for now i dont know why im learning math and what for, and i hope the school system changes for future students in my country.
@zedacht8389
@zedacht8389 6 жыл бұрын
I think i'm in love with this woman.
@TheWorldsStage
@TheWorldsStage 6 жыл бұрын
we all are
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 5 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to love.
@Sid_Darth_Vader
@Sid_Darth_Vader 5 жыл бұрын
You are not the only one cursed with the power of falling in love with this wonder woman.
@antoniolepe4670
@antoniolepe4670 5 жыл бұрын
Is it the accent?
@xenoblad
@xenoblad 5 жыл бұрын
She has a ring on the ring finger so she's probably taken.
@Armadder
@Armadder 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I've been saying this for a long time.
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to know everything, and you CAN'T know everything, but you really should know at least SOMETHING that takes some effort to know. Math is one of those options. There are many other options as well. A lot of young people, at least in America, are hoping they don't need to know something that takes some effort to know. Some mature out of this phase, and some sadly don't.
@resolversoftware5088
@resolversoftware5088 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the planes was presented also in the book how not to be wrong.Good video!
@Yathuprem
@Yathuprem 7 жыл бұрын
The same exact question i asked myself during college.. Nice video..
@upandatom
@upandatom 7 жыл бұрын
haha I asked myself during high school
@skipperofschool8325
@skipperofschool8325 2 жыл бұрын
Think of it this way, reality is an ocean and you need a boat to sail it. Your boat is made of your knowledge, wisdom, creativity and some other things. The more knowledge and wisdom you have, the better your boat. Creativity helps organize and make stuff.
@kojitada361
@kojitada361 5 жыл бұрын
But couldn’t we do something more practical while actually developing these skills? Philosophy, logic/ethics, etc. all do this without making me want to brake each bone of my math teacher.
@tinchote
@tinchote 4 жыл бұрын
You are pushing your bias. I definitely "wanted to brake every bone" of my philosophy, history, English, art teachers.
@ianbarber2937
@ianbarber2937 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but I still wish I didn’t have to spend 1/3 of my life doing stuff that I’ll never use. There are other ways to build the same type of thinking skills such as puzzles, watching videos, and even video games.
@jameshixson4770
@jameshixson4770 2 ай бұрын
I think unless you are going to become an engineer or STEM student, you will never use that level of math. You would do just fine with technical math, business math, or math for the trades. Yes, some of these courses do use algebra, but at algebra I or maybe II. But most just use math below the algebra level. They say you use algebra everyday but don't realize it and that is true. But, numbers are used instead of letters (variables). Square roots, signed numbers and a few other subjects in algebra I may be useful, but not all of the other operations. Geometry and Trigonometry can be done without higher levels of algebra. I have been successful at using what I have indicated for 30 years and never had a problem not using the whole algebra I course. I worked as an electrician and electronic technician. I have never been without a calculator in my pocket. Calculus should be reserved for those going on to college.
@dirtygeazer9266
@dirtygeazer9266 19 күн бұрын
I want the coolness factor of just knowing i know that's probably not the best reason but math out of the stuff from school was my passion
@DeveloPlayLLC
@DeveloPlayLLC 7 жыл бұрын
Love this! Great example of how we use what we learn, even when we think we never will... :)
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