Why MEN are AFRAID to APPROACH WOMEN: sexuality and the threat of extinction

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Most men have approach anxiety. There are many recent contributors to this anxiety -- such as the fear of being "cancelled" for their attraction -- but the root causes of this fear are much deeper. In today's episode, I make the case that -- on an unconscious level -- female rejection is tantamount to the judgment that a man does not deserve to exist because his genetics don't merit perpetuation. This has caused some men to idealize women to divine proportions in their romantic imagination, as they have been endowed with the capacity to determine which men have "the right stuff."
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[@psychacks]

Most men have approach anxiety. There are many recent contributors to this anxiety -- such as the fear of being "cancelled" for their attraction -- but the root causes of this fear are much deeper. In today's episode, I make the case that -- on an unconscious level -- female rejection is tantamount to the judgment that a man does not deserve to exist because his genetics don't merit perpetuation. This has caused some men to idealize women to divine proportions in their romantic imagination, as they have been endowed with the capacity to determine which men have "the right stuff." Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO7c62HZ613e7M Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sponsor an episode: oriontarabanpsyd.com/sponsor-an-episode Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #women #dating

[@bernardozatarain6744]

Loved this video. Really liked the thumbnail, I think it captures the sheer beauty and terror that is feminine energy. I would love to know who it is based on. Thanks for your content and I hope to hear an answer

[@Sam-gd4xp]

It depends on country law. In America, that could be interpreted as harasment, in suthern europe, girl that rejects a guy and makes ordeal out of it, can be fired instead of you. I did also asked my coworker on a date, she was fourious and called my boss, company lawyer. At the end, she was thretened to be fired, because she blackmailed company that she was harased by coworker. That couldn't happen in Amerika only in Suthern EU.

[@mattclark6482]

Most of us aren't "scared," we see a no win situation and we choose not to participate. That's not scared, that's smart. Would you use that same demeaning accusatory language to describe women or people of color? Why is it OK to use that language in reference to men? Go look in the mirror you might discover you're part of the problem.

[@lesterdiamonds27]

Approach anxiety is baked into our psyche. It is there to put a cap on sexual activity. Most men have no business approaching most women. In fact men have no business approaching women at all since women are the selectors. Women haveto do nothing to engage a man…..just look at him and he is chosen. Plus men only have one interest in women. If it wasn’t for sex men and women would be two separate species

[@parrotshootist3004]

threat or promise?

[@deepfrieddeals]

I’m not afraid of rejection. I’m afraid of public humiliation.

[@steve3131]

From the "empathetic sex"?

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

💯% facts. you will be all over tiktok, along with the gym bros who are checking out the gym bunnies.

[@djangomarine6658]

​@@steve3131Hands down, that was the best marketing gaslighting in history to get men to think women were empathetic at all, let alone more empathetic than we are. 😂

[@georgedang449]

@@djangomarine6658 Indeed. Guy friends for a guy are generally more trustworthy than girlfriends for girls. Have you ever heard of guy friends working hard to convince a husband to break up his happy marriage to a high value traditional housewife, in order to date said high value woman? This behavior is common among women, enough to be cliche. The idea of "fairer" sex is a relatively recent invention that came along with romanticism. Through most of human history, society correctly identify females as the less trustworthy half. References in this comes up repeatedly in not just Abramhamic religions, but also eastern philosophical based religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, and Taoism.

[@James-pl5uc]

Odds of public humiliation are pretty low. That’s like saying you’re never going to drive a car because you might have an accident.

[@wren23_bass-synths]

Didn’t they tell us to leave them alone? So that’s what most of us are doing.

[@edheldude]

Women don't give a f about most men since they're low value to them.

[@handsomeX]

💯

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

Who is they? Overgeneralization

[@Vantitas]

Yet, they usually still get mad or aren’t satisfied even when they get what they want. Talk about insufferable.

[@Alexandros74738]

That applies to you, not chad

[@randyduncan795]

I'm seeing a lot more apathy than fear.

[@brianmeen2158]

There is some fear most definitely .. I see a lot of guys trying to justify not trying .. that said there is a lot of apathy as well. I mean, I get it to a point but guys are just giving up altogether which I don’t understand

[@sudeep407]

@@brianmeen2158nothing complex here, men is just choosing sanity over everything else…I guess…

[@observer-fc7to]

@@brianmeen2158 sometimes avoiding fear is not cowardice but a sign of a rational mind , hey but i do see cowardice as a sign of virtue for me , i embrace the wrong things that humans labelled as bad and so life is really fun so far 😁😁

[@117Industries]

I agree. Apathy describes it perfectly.

[@randyduncan795]

@@brianmeen2158 My wife is 20 years younger. I didn't understand why the guys her age seemed unconcerned about learning a trade or getting a job, moving out, having a car, and having a gf. Maybe the average guy has decided there's no point in any of it unless he's 6'4 or more. Even if he's making $90K or more it's never enough. Seems like they're deciding that none of the juice is worth the squeeze and that's scary. It won't end well for anyone.

[@michaelgarrow3239]

I used to think it was fear. But have come to realize it is my Unconscious telling me to not pursue that one. Trust your gut.

[@boggy7665]

'Unconscious'? Oh contraire

[@VaronPlateando]

well... also drug addiction may come to be managed to some degree in rationally staying sober - after breaking through certain auto pilot modes, that is, which may inflict some pain, to begin with. but xx.s aren't indispensable for physiological relaxation, as via seggs. and with usual (recommended) contraceptions applied, blood lines aren't being furthered by latter anyway either.

[@michaelgarrow3239]

@@VaronPlateando - not judging: but you sound high…

[@VaronPlateando]

@@michaelgarrow3239 :-D nothing here as for above: and you might elevate yourself, or not !? presumably then you could express yourself in commenting on my remarks rather than ventilating ‚ad hominem‘ fog - to put it dryly. but let‘s go own ways.

[@michaelgarrow3239]

@@VaronPlateando - I don’t know what was ad-hoc..? But your English skills are non-puka.. perhaps a junior college English class- and you too could write in complete sentences.

[@BrunoGabrielAraujoLebtag]

No one is afraid of nothing. It is just not worth the effort anymore.

[@AwakenZen]

Yeah so afraid of wasting time

[@qweqwe5186]

true, even if they ask me its BIG NO

[@MrMan-fx3ow]

That’s a lie. You know damn well the average joe blow is TERRIFIED to go talk to any girl he perceives as an 7.5 or better

[@mamierdem4377]

bruh c'mon.. what r ur expectations in these days fr???

[@Fullyautomagic]

@@AwakenZennot everything that you don’t do is fear

[@Mr._Anderpson]

What do you win if she decides to play the game? In the long run you get to enter into a relationship in which you're hostage to her emotions. The moment she no longer gets the tingles she can walk, and you have to pay her expenses if you were silly enough to marry her. Extinction doesn't scare me. I was married. She took my fear of death in the divorce.

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

What do you win? You might get to have a really fun conversation with her. Why think of a relationship? Pay her expenses? Marry her?

[@rbg01]

it's a game you're looking to score my friend, that's why he said to "serve the ball". unfortunately men serve too hard like asking out on the first chance. You have to let the game flow and soon she will be wanting to be scored.

[@MrMan-fx3ow]

Well damn

[@cor.tenebrarum]

maybe some pumping action

[@303machine]

@@rbg01 There is another game where you score every time. Going to escort or prostitute.

[@maladyofdeath]

I made the mistake of asking out a coworker. Not only did she reject me but it ended up being a huge ordeal. I was labelled a creep and almost destroyed my job. Just expressing an interest in a girl can have serious consequences.

[@mbg9650]

Job survival 101.

[@janco333]

Did she give any signals that she was interested in you before you asked her out?

[@dances_with_incels]

You shouldn't date your co workers. I learned this lesson the hard way

[@GraveRave]

That's rough man, it's a shame that we've socially degraded like this.

[@rnt45t1]

Dude, that was stupid.

[@jaybarnett1164]

Approaching a woman today can have nasty consequences. Shame, gossip, hostile reaction. And social media can broadcast it out for the whole world to see. Ever been a victim of the old bait and switch? I have. That sucks. A woman can give you all the right signals to show interest, and when you make the move (that she’d never do) she rejects you gently. That was a nice little exercise to see if she could get you. She gets a little boost of confidence at your expense. No consequences on her part! She plays the victim. And the cycle repeats. There is a lot to lose here gentlemen because your time, effort and attention are a valuable commodity. And deserve to be treated with more respect. But that’s not likely with modern women.

[@Psmitty97]

At the end of the day though, you have to ask yourself.... "Do I really want to be alone?"

[@andrewevans7992]

@@Psmitty97its alot better than some cow making your life worse and you’re begging to be alone by then..

[@chrisandsneaky2453]

@@Psmitty97 I'm not alone. I have my son, my family, and my friends.

[@Wairo979]

Corporate psychopath women uses this trick to get rid of the staff at workplaces

[@Wairo979]

It still hunts me

[@brookxiaofengxiong8473]

women choose whatever they want. Men just need to walk away if a woman doesn’t want you even in the slightest.

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

Stop letting them choose whatever they want. Why should a powerless bitch get to dictate shit

[@brianmeen2158]

True if a w we omen doesn’t have a decent level of desire for the guy then the guy doesn’t need to bother. You can’t earn attraction to any significant degree

[@kellygreenii]

They don’t get to eat their cake and have it too. They don’t get the satisfaction of being chased while also protected from ever being approached by someone they aren’t attracted to. Life doesn’t work that way. Because the guy one woman wants is a guy a number of women would never consider. So all men face rejection…and if you make the cost of it to be the destruction of your life? Men are going to stop doing it. Okay we’ll leave you alone. All of you

[@limitlesssky3050]

​@@kellygreeniidon't worry man, there's always that one guy who is the real deal, the creep, the sociopath and the psychopath. They'll destroy her once they get rejected.

[@kvibeats1512]

@@limitlesssky3050facts

[@tedlogan4867]

I have heard recently this, what I will call, a neo-proverb "Men today must put in ten thousand times the effort to secure one tenth of a woman that they're grandfathers did". It is not fear, it is revulsion.

[@marcusseneca7962]

The era of "approaching a woman" is gone. Now its all algorithms and preparing your resume to apply. That's the new approach. Your entire net worth and value is to be presented online and she decides whether to hire you or not. Too many variables to ever even consider approaching someone unknown in the physical world.

[@alienkishorekumar]

Rejection actually hurts if you are a sensitive man. And women trample sensitive man and put them in trash. But the same women cannot take rejection.

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

Men and women are not the same. We are supposed to be very different.

[@Aivottaja]

That's a dead end to contemplate, because womyn have no empathy for men. This is why it's so important for men to have other men as friends.

[@andrewevans7992]

@@yourfavoriteentertainmentso what.. woman isn’t superior to a man, they are extremely insecure and losers.. alot of them shouldn’t be procreating anyways

[@Tom-vq2hw]

Ah, women are supposed to be hypocrites

[@mechplech7357]

Wrong. MMA fighters are hurt by rejection too for example... Look around the comment section

[@music-jj2pl]

Approaching women was fun and exciting in my 30s. I was secure in my career, had money, looked good. Not a lot of things made me nervous anymore save approaching. Even rejection was fun. BUT that was 10 years ago when facebook was the only social media. Now girls will live stream the approach - must be terrifying for guys.

[@DougHinVA]

girls may but real women will not... wake up and act like a man!

[@nocapbussin]

Nailed it. Videoing people in public should be illegal. That's what security cameras are for. There's no reason why someone should have the right to put someone's face on the internet or share private messages for the world to see. It should be illegal with prison time and heavy fines

[@SuperSaverPlaysSPG]

until you come across a woman that will harass you and stalk you

[@whittakerwinstanleyiii4051]

⁠@@nocapbussinwhy should security cameras have the right to film and not a member of the public? Thats Interesting can of worms you’ve opened there.

[@josealexi5141]

@@nocapbussin when you're in PUBLIC, you have NO expectations of privacy. you are advocating for some fascist police state.

[@jaytc3218]

I’m not AFRAID of rejection. I’m just tired of BEING rejected. This what happens when you’re a 5 or a 6 and women expect the men who approach them to be an 8 or a 9. The whole dating/mating game is a load of bullsh!t. We need a big meteor to come and do us all in. That’s the best thing that could happen to the planet at this point.

[@adamant5906]

Yes. It hurts. It invalidates you as a man, as a person. No person should feel forced to accept anyone's advances. It would just be nice if women collectively would decide to be more direct and approach men. But tradition and enablement have spared them that. A woman takes a risk going out with a man. That is true. But a man takes a risk by putting himself out there. Hope you have some nice luck out there.

[@lilbroomstick7914]

I also think tribal/nomadic early humans lived in smaller tribes compared to modern globalization. People were used to interacting with smaller amounts of people- kinda like Dunbar's number. So this evolutionarily made rejection MUCH worse for men, because men had limited attempts at pleasing a female partner plus anytime they were rejected there was a much greater likelihood other people in tribe would know about the rejection and that man would be "poisioning the well" of his sexual opprotunities

[@timgibney5590]

Yep. This is why also it is essential as a man to reject the friendzone as an exgf or yourself may think or you maybe perfect for Jenny. Jenny thought you were cute when you dated her friend but knowing why her friend rejected you means Jenny is no longer interested as she wants only an alpha man success with women. In your example of the tribal days a rejection was FATAL. All the girls will know why you were rejected and it is big turn off. Kind of like a negative reference in a job interview lol .

[@Navinor]

Yeah this is as old as humanity itself. Since a woman can not check every man for his qualites women will look at their female group or "sisterhood" for positive validation of a man. Because of this married men are way more attractive than single men. It sounds paradox but it is the way it is. Furthermore we as humans are not like some kind of "fantasy elves" who have only one partner. Normally the higher status males had and still have multiple partners. In the western world it is just not official through marriage. A king or a leader of a tribe controlled other men through the access to women and procreation. But this was and still is a double edged sword. Because high status men often tend to "hamster" so many women, there are often a lot of men without a partner. And this is the cause for civil unrest, conflict and even removal of the old king or leader. Because for a young man without a partner or the possibilty of procreation is the same as genetic death sentence for his heritage. Because of this up to this day it leads to massive problems, since you have a lot of men who will risk everything to change the hierarchy. One of the reasons religions like christianity preached the "one man and one woman" model was to keep the civil unrest in check. Other regions of the world had models like harems. (Sultans for exmpale with harems consisting of over 1000 women.) But harems had problems of their own. Since the competition for the "alpha" male or the high status male was fierce between the women in the harem, it often led to a lot of child deaths, because the women competing for the position of the "first wive" or "queen" tried to remove all the other competitors. The worst part was when the old sultan died. Or in china when the old emperor died. The moment a new sultan or emperor was crowned ALL the other children of the former sultan or emperor were killed. In china even the former wives of the former emperor were killed. (And the emperor had a harem of over 1000 women too.) Fun fact today is with all the feminism, that we are moving back even more to the "harem" model but it is simple not official on the west. Higher status men simply date and meet more women while lower status men or "normal" men don´t have a partner at all. Sometimes their whole life. We are at a point where even normal men with normal jobs are not considered "good enough" for procreation. Of course this leads to a massive problem for society overall, since a man is often way more productive when he tries to care for his family. Men without a family have no incentive at all to contribute to society. But i agree with a lot of people here in the comment section. Telling a woman about your problems is the wrongest thing you can do. A women will never understand male problems . Even your mother or sister won´t . Either you figure out how to solve your problems or you don´t. But telling a women about them will only lead to even more pain.

[@lordgrim355]

Even though this isn’t my situation (talking to someone) still after years of hearing “men ain’t shit”, “all men are garbage”, “leave us alone”, “only real men do this and that”, “you’re not ambitious enough”, I need some one making 6 figs or more”, “he gotta be 6 ft+” etc etc men just stopped caring. Shit ain’t even worth it. If it weren’t for the girl I’m talking to hitting me up, I would of just continued working out and going to the gym. Just better off staying single our whole lives. Shit really ain’t worth it

[@alpinewolf7751]

Any person has the right to reject advances. But if you are making it a game for your enjoyment don't be surprised if you are not going to end up in a stable relationship.

[@jamesdotson1080]

The entire point when you approach a woman you have sexual interest in is for both of you to enjoy "The Game". The conversation, the flirting, the physical interactions should be fun and enjoyable for each other. Do you think women can't enjoy the situation just as much as men. Women constantly talk about the vibe, chemistry, tingles and so on when speaking about a new man they have met. That is because they ENJOYED the interaction they had with the new man immensely.

[@alpinewolf7751]

@@jamesdotson1080 I agree completely but I think you misunderstood my point. What I mean is that you don't have the right to make the rejection a game, e.g. being cruel etc. on purpose just to get your kicks out of it. Just decline politely and firmly. If he/she doesn't respect that decision, THEN you can take off the gloves.

[@handsomeX]

​@@alpinewolf7751💯

[@heavnbound]

I think men are also afraid to know where they truly stand with women in attractiveness or value. If they never approach then they can continue to believe their perception about themselves. It can be terrifying to find out through a female’s rejection that their belief isn’t a reality.

[@BS_Profile]

Some women will say it's "creepy" if a guy even looks at them. Not sure how a guy would be expected to actually approach and talk to someone like that. Let alone ask her out and show sexual/romantic interest.

[@tonyg4058]

They're talking about ugly/average guys (but they will never admit this). They would love a chad to stare at them.

[@BS_Profile]

@@tonyg4058 Yes it seems to just be a social tactic that they use to keep "unattractive" guys away while preserving their own image. If they don't find the guy physically attractive enough, they can simply blame his behavior, even though he did nothing wrong, so that they don't appear superficial. That way it frames themselves as the victims and the guy as the perpetrator. This way it appears "as if" he's doing something wrong by showing interest in them. Even though we all know guys are generally expected to initiate and women spend tons of time and energy on their looks. I think women have abused the absolute hell out of that tactic and that's why a lot of guys aren't approaching women anymore. No guy wants to be shamed and lambasted just for being heterosexual. Clown world.

[@cliffalcorn2423]

Always enjoy your content. Keep it up.

[@jetboy770371]

For myself I feel that things went bad for 45 years ago and couldn't shake the anxiety in my teens. Being a short redhead in the world owned by "tall , dark and handsome " men left me close to the bottom of the list. Life doesn't stop and if you can't keep up and socially progress with your age group you'll get left behind. There was still hope in my thirties but it quickly disappeared when I realized that I didn't have the social skills to fit in and then shame took over and I just hide in plain sight until retirement in 2020. I'm not angry, it's just life. Life isn't fair and all men are not created equal, it's luck of the draw. My new goal is to wander around the country, burned down my savings, and find a spot to finally call home and get my affairs in order.

[@Tele-gram-_RealPsychacks]

LETS TALK. 🆙

[@Texasno420]

“I don’t exist” and rejection of self worth. Brilliant analysis and sadly true.

[@divinedestiny22]

I think if we could find that balance of being whole on our own while still being open to intimate relationships if/when they arise, it would be easier. Finding a partner is such a huge goal for most people, and the lack of success can be disheartening. So much of our worth is put on that and it doesn’t need to be. Loneliness isn’t a death sentence.

[@3minutestats190]

" The word "glamour" means to bewitch men into believing that they are more than they are " From 2:20 to 7:20 are the best 5 minute explanation I've heard in the last 20 years to sum up the entire ideology of the modern dating world from a scientific/ historical/ psychoanalytical viewpoint , Kudos !

[@Wong-Jack-Man]

If you ask a women out expect that she post your advance on social media. Many women get their rocks on from shaming men. I always tell men if you’re looking to date don’t ask them out, if they are interested in you either they will hand you their number or you will clearly know.

[@hectorhp8779]

This is a hugely depressing video. Thank you!

[@llgogo]

Modern man's self worth is indeed tied to women. If you look at all these big successful influencersin the manosphere what is it that they flaunt? How many women they are capable of sleeping with. Most men are trying to "self-improve" by going to the gym etc. just to be approved by women. Great video as always Orion.

[@alphastrongman6879]

How you perfectly describe things as they are and provide much clarity on every topic under discussion is exceptional.

[@timgibney5590]

Then women wonder why we don't have the confidence to ask out right? ... rolls eyes. Unfortunately, work is how most people traditionally met. If I get labeled a creep to HR my career IS DONE! HR will always take the women side and it is no one's business of responding to a manager saying "Hey why are you hitting on my employees?". Of course women can stare and wink but we can't.

[@EE12CSVT]

Women have asked me in the office if I have a Prince Albert piercing, have asked me if I'm a grower or a shower, have asked me for details about my s3x life. All in front of an office full of other women. Can I ask her if she's had her labia or nipples pierced, if she gets wet easily if she sees an attractive man, and how many men she f--ked before marrying? No, thought not.

[@alexandrealphonse69]

I'm not afraid of rejection, I'm just too proud to be rejected by somebody I don't even consider an equal, both inside and outside, to begin with.

[@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers]

"Terrorban" is a pretty apt last name when you're talking about how to approach without fear.

[@alediaz67]

Well done man, a really good pod. I'm PhD like you but less younger, I like your simplicity to explain complex topics and the examples you give to make them easier to get. I wasn't paying so much attention to your channel, I was focus on some others but I will pop up here more often. Pleasure to meet you. My respects

[@Denso481]

What I find most grating is that this ultimate judgement comes from someone who not only is in no position to judge me, but often times far below me in all aspects of their character and life save for their looks. And yet, I either accept playing along in the humiliation ritual or accept extinction.

[@kingdingaling9756]

Easy anwer = The weaponization of the me too movement

[@dirtyharry5320]

"Men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them". That makes me even more afraid to approach women. I'm not afraid of the rejection part, I'm afraid of being branded a creep. Sure, I don't have to worry about women killing me, but they can certainly harm my reputation with a false accusation, which is worse than death. Approaching women is a minefield. All it takes is misinterpreting one hint and one misunderstanding and you're branded a creep. Yet, men are still the ones expected to do the approaching.

[@rjflores438]

I find it much harder when I speak to women of a far higher social class than me more than any other demographic, especially here in London. Uk

[@paralysisbyanalysis2287]

A man, who does not worship Christ as his Savior, will fill this void with some other idol. The default alternate idols: Women & Money Now, notice how much emphasis women place on money and status. Replace women with Christ as your standard for self-worth, and then recognize how money and status simply become peripheral rather than priority. God's speed, gentlemen!

[@lanevotapka4012]

Your description fits in excellently with the diagnosis that many men nowadays make idols out of women and relationships.

[@kmart111]

in my local store at the counter i noticed a woman that i liked, i observed how open she treated the customers and her co-workers and since i am afraid of rejection or humiliation, i avoided asking her out but one day my regret grew so much that i couldn't bare letting my fears getting the best of me, i went in, asked her name and then asked for her number, i asked her out on a date - she was surprised but she told me that she has to work all day xd. i said no problem and went on my way... after a few days when i visited the store again, i noticed that she disappeared in her backroom before she was serving me, however i could not read her or the situation... one time her coworker even switched with her so she could serve me... but i couldn't get a conversation going that is beyond customer-employee, i feel like a creep, stopped going to the store and that is it.

[@AleksLazar]

I approach a dozen or more women a weekend. I try to make some type of interesting conversation. Either conversation happens or it doesn’t. Sometimes I ask a ridiculous question like how much do you weigh or are you wearing a wig. Good check on sense of humor and psycho filter.

[@tamasgyorffy1]

52 ys old guy here, from Hungary, but lived and loved in Switzerland, France, Denmark... solutions Orion propose: exposure, game: these are keys, young guys who read this. Personal experience if you permit: since I never used socializing environment (clubs, concerts, etc etc), but 95% of the time approached women in the public place. Looking creepy if stage set badly is one thing, but in the usual noisy/alcoholic environment, I found more difficult to communicate, and engage. Alcohol and party setting is anyway strongly modifying perception on both side. I cant see/hear/ feel her, and even worse she cant see/smell (!!!), hear (!!!) , feel who I am. Biology. Asking later on many women who said yes (or no), they were either 1.) unhappy to be approached (1/3 maybe), and mostly OBVIOUSLY happy, since it increases their self-worth by TONS if a decent, polite guy takes the courage to ask them for a drink in public space. Those who do not even look at you also perceive you, and they are MOST likey to say yes. Those who already make eye contact, communicate usually just flirt. (I learned this from one of them :)). You will see: a man is made to try. Try doing your best. Success will depend on many factors on the female side, that you know NOTHING about usually. (boring boyfriend, no boyfriend, most fertile days of her cycle etc etc etc ). You dont know THEREFORE SUCCESS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. You destiny is to try try, try. And you will see: each time you try, even when she says "no"', you will leave the stage satisfied. And stronger. Your testosterone goes up when you act. Not when you decide not to: limiting yourself decrease testo. Choose the hottest ones, as I love to: cause they are rarely approached by men, and are usually lonely. Most ment think they are unattainable. NO. The hottest will be the most happy to have someone socializing with. Higher success rate, and what a feeling, having such a company! Really, I did this as a young lad, on public transport , plaza, streets. Get them when they are. Be hunters. You are built for that since 100s thousands of years. Best of luck Guys!

[@bunnalong79]

I'm not afraid of rejection, you just have to get use to it. Its a game to me, sometimes I win , sometimes I lose. It comes with the territory, but it is very important on the approach when asking. Never ever sound desperate, women can smell desperation from a mile away.

[@Duran762]

Thank you for confirming this! I was thinking that if a woman likes you she won't care what you say.

[@Pikwhip]

Great advice as always. Don't worry what women think, just live the best life you can, build your best tennis court, and more of them will be interested in playing. You don't need a fancy opener "Hi" is sufficient. If an attractive woman says Hi to you, you're going to respond. Now think of an unattractive woman. Is there anything she could say that is going to make you attracted to her physically? No. That's how they feel too. You're just filtering for someone that would have already liked you anyway. No sweat.

[@Stassis]

Women have very little interest in most men outside of utility.

[@ShaunHensley]

Honestly just grossed out by the current crop of women

[@shermankennearly1270]

Monday 6:31 pm Brilliant! Simply....Brilliant. I have never heard this situation explained, in such a profound astonishing way. Thank you.

[@donald347]

Approach anxiety has always existed because social rejection IN GENERAL has always been a danger to a social animal. (The spiritual aspect proposed here is dubious as women have it too.)It’s culture that has changed. I’ve cold approached over 1000 women too, but I like most men today I CHOOSE not to anymore. We’re not paralyzed we’re just rational. People want men to approach again for the convenience of women (who today insist on acting like men) but don’t really care about the costs to men. Women “needing” attention isn’t men’s problem and family neither is the population decline. Men need to take care of themselves and embarrassing themselves in public has nothing to do with that. Especially in a social climate where people are tripping over themselves to call men creepy. Only a heavily gynocentric society would expect anything else from men while saying men and women are the same. Ask any women’s how often she HASN’T gotten a man she’s wanted. It’s almost never. So what’s the point of trying? If she wants you she’ll get you. Only the women throwing themselves at you are worth even considering. That’s the world feminism has created.

[@TheAltair460]

Hello Dr. Taraban, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. You contribute us a lot. I've been following you for a long time and your wisdom is remarkable. I'm sure that the information about both psychology and relationships improves many friends as well as me. At the very beginning, at least after watching some of your videos, I have conclude that you had quite a number experiences with women beside that your theoretical knowledge. And with this informative content, we witness it. I read many PUA and Red Pill contents. In some terms, they are toxic, especially RP. They intoxicate a person if consumed so much. Dosage is of utmost importance. These contents may pull a person to negative spiral. However, you mixed these contents and your experince as a realistic and positive formula. At every time, you tell brand new ideas about relationships and surprise me. Getting relationship knowledge from you is far more helpful. And your tryings, for example approaching over 1000 women, are encouraging. Sometimes I want to give up. Yet, your wisdom raises me again. Thank you for everything Dr. Taraban.

[@bjornviir3333]

Schopenhauer was against having kids thru many great arguments. Some say its selfish not to have kids, ie. the man gets to spend all his resources on himself and thus can live in higher utility, obviously its only selfish if he has a choice and declines his opportunities.

[@justlurkin]

The average man has the duty of approaching women but the near guaranteed expectation of being rejected. When you’re in a situation where it is your societal duty to do something that you will most likely be punished for, whether it be simple rejection on one end or being accused of harassment on the other end, and these outcomes will be over 90% of your experience when you perform that duty, then yeah it makes sense why you would be nervous. Logic would dictate that if you don’t want to be approached by most men then that would necessarily be balanced by taking on the duty of approaching most of the men you desire but since women for the most part will do neither, men have no choice but to perform a task in which they will most likely fail and hope the consequences aren’t too severe should that failure come to fruition. And then depending on the situation women will express their duplicitous nature by saying “men never approach anymore” or “I wish men wouldn’t approach women” depending on their feelings in the moment.

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

The average man has NO duty to approach a woman. Approaching is a low value move and shows how desperate men truly are for a woman in the first place. Keep your power as a man. You don’t want a worthless woman to have it, cuz there’s no chance of her using it responsibly

[@justlurkin]

@@marcusmcgraw3519 If the average man doesn’t initiate he’ll get nothing. If he does initiate he’ll most likely get nothing. If the above average man doesn’t initiate he’ll most likely get nothing and if he does initiate, he’ll probably get something. And if an elite man doesn't approach he'll still probably get something, but if does approach he's pretty much guaranteed something. But I agree with you for myself personally.

[@mavrk.d]

I’m afraid of picking wrong one

[@EE12CSVT]

Yes, because we face prosecution if a woman is paranoid enough. In March last year, posters stating 'intrusive staring of a sexual nature is sexual harassment and is not tolerated' have been appearing at London Underground stations and on their trains. And what's intrusive staring in law? No idea. It's entirely subjective and is up to the woman to decide, if you happen to be looking past her shoulder at something, or if you're lost in thought. The only safe way you can avoid getting prosecuted for doing this is to avoid looking at a woman at all.

[@John-d9e4x]

Now you understand the chadoor in Muslim society, saves a lot of beat downs,

[@adamant5906]

At least Stevie Wonder is safe. We can all rest easy.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

LET'S TALK Bot is having a field day.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

LET'S NOT.

[@K-MartOnline]

I like the tips you gave at the end, rarely people provide clear steps on how to take action. you earn a like.

[@ramizabdulahad8419]

Your thumbnails are work of art

[@GoddessFrancine]

I was at the skatepark on a Friday evening and there were a few young women on roller blades. They were young and firm and beautiful. I noticed none of the guys were trying to talk to them. That is why I am watching this video. I like the tennis summary in the end.

[@captaincleaver3936]

Finally some good advice about approaching!

[@Powered-by-WiFi-6]

I’ve approached many women. It’s a numbers game, fellas. I’ve been rejected by hundreds of women. But, I’ve also succeeded. You must expect rejection. And you must get used to rejection. It knocks you down. But if that happens, get up and try again. It’s that simple. This is based on my experience. In fact, each rejection will humble you. And you become more humble, more sensitive, more empathetic, more kinder,etc with every rejection until you become a man someone will be interested in. Yup. That’s it.

[@treehugger3615]

I forgot who said this but it made a lot of sense to me when I heard it. The ability of a man to approach is as critical as the ability for a woman to filter. The degree to which they can perform this task will determine whether they will get the best mate for their offspring.

[@Rollacoastertycoon]

I approached a chick last week Can y’all send me some money I’m in jail

[@mathius_dragoon532]

For me, it's not even that deep. It's not even the rejection itself that burns me. It's the fact that she will eventually accept somebody, and that acceptance will be completely arbitrary from my perspective. Arbitrary is generally the opposite of fair and I have a deeply embedded need for fairness.

[@Kirbythediver]

This channel is filling in the gaps in my knowledge. Great content

[@MaxIgnoramus]

How do I tell a woman im a virgin at 33, and should I expect this to be an issue for dating?

[@LustyLichKing]

You don't. If it comes up in conversation somehow, never outright lie, but use the form of deception that involves you allowing her to make assumptions without any real information. For example, if she straight up asks you how many women you have slept with, you just chuckle a bit while looking away as if remembering something. Then, you can seem to misinterpret the nature of her question and respond with a truth like, "I'm clean, I have no STD's." If she presses further, dodge the question with a compliment like, "none like you" while smiling and making eye contact and then moving in for a kiss to stop her from asking more questions. You can't BS physical prowess though. It sounds lame as hell, but your best option to practice bedroom techniques is with a doll. Do kegels for endurance, as well as cardio training at least every other day, and be sure to workout your legs and ass to aid in general bloodflow circulation in the lower half of your body. The last thing you want on top of any potential performance anxiety is a weak body. Take solace in the fact that if worse comes to worst, you can always rely on the Fingerblast 9000 to at least partially salvage the encounter, and then blame "unusual discrepancies in performance" on a bad meal (unless she cooked it). That's my advice, although it might not be worth very much. You could always just tell her as things are heating up and maybe it will turn her on more, who knows? There is the risk of that strategy backfiring if she becomes self-conscious about her own bodycount, so I would utilize my not-deception plan for her own sake, but that's just me. Looking at this now, there are too many damn variables to account for. I would just workout until you are so hot that she straight up doesn't believe you when you say zero, especially if you say it in a goofy/jokey way. Good luck, friend.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

You don't.

[@MaxIgnoramus]

@@thereisnosanctuary6184 why not? Won't it be obvious?

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

@@MaxIgnoramus Maybe. But, you will pre-ruin it. Tell her after. Next day Maybe.

[@biggerbitcoin5126]

I got in trouble by asking a girl out....the conversation went like this "would you like to go to dinner? " "Why would you ask me that?" "So that we can go to dinner" "No" "Ok" After that no conversation......after that.....next day.....called into the office.....job was threatened Women are not worth it these days

[@JJ-bf1ib]

I tested this in dating apps and real life. He is right it doesn't matter what you say in your opening line. I said like simple and if they like you they respond positively and if they don't they don't reply back even in real life.

[@starkid9736]

not afraid ...to smart!

[@chopz2684]

idk if this is intentional but i keep clicking on these videos just cause i like the art in the thumbnail lol

[@VinnyJones]

The only thing I fear more than rejection is if she is actually NOT rejecting, then I am stuck with arranging dates, trying to be cool, say funny stuff, but I know full well that its only a matter of time before she finds out she can do better, so approaching is lose/lose for me

[@MattDaGamer21]

wow

[@loganschultz4217]

Nice shirt bro

[@alienkishorekumar]

Lol 😂

[@heidymadia3065]

A genius metaphor. Witty banter with tennis. 😮😮😮

[@darkerisbetter8699]

Damn, I might not deserve to exist...

[@amin_baccari]

The dynamic needs to change. Historically, men approaching women stems from a patriarchal system where women had little to no autonomy, including the choice of their partner, and were dependent on men for survival. Men approached knowing women had few alternatives. Today, with women's emancipation and rising standards, the approach should be equal, and both parties need to get their hands dirty. If a woman finds a man attractive, she should make the first move, just as a man should if he’s interested. It's straightforward - anything else is just playing games, immaturity, or a sense of entitlement.

[@MrJake-yx8ll]

I agree to just getting out there and putting the ball in play as long as the individual (Him) knows anytime someone is cold approached for any reason the subconscious of a healthy individual (Her) has one question: What does he want? So if you're going to play--put the ball out there but get ready to eventually address that question.

[@dinos9607]

What Dr. Taraban says it's right. A man can overcome his fear of rejection only after trying and having been rejected several 10s of times. Even the most attractive men get more rejections than acceptances. Sure. And agreed that fear of rejection stems out of an evolutionary male instinct developed when we lived in small societies where the corresponding in age and social class and physical beauty women were not more than 5 : if the man approached the woman the wrong way he could be missing his chances with the other 4 of them. Hell what, if he even approached the woman he would have to deal with the ire of her father and brothers who would attack him. He would have to approach only in an official way in the right time, in the right way, first speaking to the overall family, especially the father, getting the approval and then speaking to the girl (actually it would be the father and mother who would speak to the girl to get her opinion - and sometimes they would not even do that). Any other "flirting" would occur in very specific circumstances such as a village fair dance where all families would be present. Any other interaction such an occasional meeting "in the street" would be summed up to a "good day mademoiselle" and ending there to avoid social repercussions, repercussions that could escalate even to his murder for social misconduct. And it comes down to this : flirting was never a thing. It was a very fringe social behaviour occurring only in the very high echelons of society, basically in royal/aristocratic circles. Men did not flirt. If a man flirted anyone, that would be the father and brothers of the girl he was eyeing, thus the effort to get social approval and prove he would be a worthy husband to their daughter/sister. And then on the evolutionary side of it, there is another plot twist in this. Flirting almost automatically puts the man in an inferior position unless specific circumstances take place i.e. the man being of visibly higher social position and thus not being him flirting the woman but rather the other way round, the woman coming to flirt with him and him only bouncing the ball back in her court. What we mean as flirting feels on an instinctual level kind of degrading to a man and it undermines his chances of success. Go flirt a woman, any dumb woman out there and the first thing she will feel (even if she likes you) is that she is in a superior position to you. There is a reason that only a minority of "successful-with-women" men flirt actively : most such men just roam around living their lives and women come to them to flirt them, not the other way around. And even when they eye a specific woman (something unnecessary for them anyway as they have plenty of access to sex), they do not need to do much, their position automatically does it for them. All these are something that men realise on an instinctual place and that is why they have such a reticence to flirting women. And just compare with job hunting. Men have reticence to failure, sure, and sure in most of their applications and interviews they may lose the job to some other candidate but they don't stop, they continue. And though the process is not exactly super-pleasant, no man complains that it is highly unpleasant unless a recruiter was especially rude to them. On the contrary, in flirting most men will admit they don't actually enjoy it, they just feel this is their only access to sex. Sure they enjoy socialisation with women as it opens sexual prospects and only for that reason but even men who are relatively successful with women will openly state that the actual phase of flirting is something they dislike. They have to lie, they have to pretend (all men lie and all men pretend in flirting - this is a fact of life). They have to listen to extremely dumb stuff - and many actually blow their chances by instinctually responding to correct things (it is called mansplaining). Overall the experience is not pleasant, only the outcome is pleasant if it is positive. The summary of all that is this : flirting as we define it today is not a natural human male behaviour and it should not be treated as such. It is unnatural as unnatural are our societies. As simple as that. By all means I would encourage men on that unnatural behaviour since it is the only acceptable sexual behaviour in modern western societies, but they have to keep always in mind that it is unnatural and thus "being themselves' is the worst type of advise to give in such a case. Lie, distort, conceal, manipulate and do it with a smile. Be a bit sociopathic. Women love it. LOL! There is a reason why sociopaths are statistically particularly good in flirting women.

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

I love your metaphors everytime. It's a tennis game.

[@Tele-gram-_RealPsychacks]

LETS TALK. 🆙.

[@Vunerio]

Best vidéo of all KZbin for this topic !

[@fefifofob]

It couldn't possibly be pain avoidance.

[@roninswilduniverseofdota2701]

I would argue that we still have theses "tests" of manhood in boxing. Kickboxing sports etc.

[@Toolwise]

Nah, I'm good

[@latinaalma1947]

You are doing an outstanding job of presenting psych techniques in an easily understandable form.. Imuave watched about ten of your vidoes so far. It is going to help alot of people,...THIS is your talent and your reach will go far ....wishing you luck with your endeavors Sybil Francis PhD professor of clinical psychology

[@janoycresva276]

It’s not that they’re “afraid” to, although some certainly may be but that's a small minority of men, the majority of men simply do not want to go up to some random stranger & tell them they want to date them based solely on their looks without knowing their character because what you're saying by doing so is "hey I'm a shallow person who only cares about your appearance & only want to date you because of that but I don't care what you are as a person". It’d be like going up to someone you don’t know & asking them for their social security number, not only are you virtually guaranteed to be told no but there's also a high likelihood that you'll likely be reported. You don’t meet men or women by just going up to them & asking them to go on a date. All this “overcome your fear of approaching women” is a recent phenomena going back to the 1960s with the sexual revolution, before that for all of human history, people met their spouse through some sort of prearranged way & mediated by another individual who knew them both such as parents arranging it or the priest at the church people attended which shows you just how warped our society is now in just the last 60 years or so that we don't even know this basic fact that you can't just ask a random stranger for a date & how dystopian it is given how all community that people used to have to be with others is gone. Not to mention how we've regressed back to a primal society where, like animals, only a few men get the majority of women hence why 70% of men are single but only 30% of women are but before, most men weren't single & had wives as well as children. Most men aren’t afraid to talk to women who they know want to talk with them or who they know want to have a husband but what they don’t want to do is talk to a total stranger they don’t know for the purpose of trying to date because they know they'll be rejected which they will. And same for women, they don't want you to just go up & talk with them because that's weird. And arranged marriages, particularly when both parties are virgins prior, have the lowest divorce rate whereas the people who have the highest divorce rate are those who’ve been with 3+ people which is the average number prior to marriage.

[@jroseme]

Chasing women is just too much work. I can just jerk off to get the poison out and go about my day and enjoy my hobbies and interests. There's also no real reason to have kids. I don't know, maybe I'm just broken or something but I really don't see the incentive. I'm 38 and I've felt this way for a long time. I did well with the ladies while traveling in my early thirties, that was awesome because it was casual and there was no ridiculous, unrealistic expectation of being lifelong soulmates. But now that I'm home and playing catch up with my career, I just don't see how I'm supposed to have enough time, energy, and money to pursue multiple women, let alone one. Meh.

[@Aivottaja]

It ain't fear, Kemosabe. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze anymore.

[@Tele-gram-_RealPsychacks]

LETS TALK. 🆙.

[@gunfugames7430]

You must overcome this shallow programing with your focused consciousness

[@jeremyking9094]

This is a perfect breakdown

[@azirious666]

No we aren't afraid every social interaction has a net negative even is with other men and women. So it won't happen outside of incentive. But happens only stupid and young that you see shaming

[@genxlife]

This is not the damn Stone Age! I don't give a frak about leaving spring!

[@jonathanm9986]

It’s depends on what you mean by approach women. If you mean cold approach like approaching her in the middle of a street things are a bit different. I actually think cold approaching is a bit unnatural. The correct way to “get a woman” is through one’s social circle. This is how it was most often done throughout history. You share an activity with her and spent a couple of days doing that activity with her, then you test the waters and ask her out. Or your friend introduces you to her then you talk to her and get to know her before potentially asking her out on a date. Or you go to a social event such as a concert with a group of friends and you see a cute girl so you approach her and talk to her with both of you at the social event being the common ground as a conversation starter. While all of these are still an approach, it is not completely cold as in, I see a girl sitting on the bench I will now go talk to her with nothing else to talk to her about if I’m not socially adept but maybe the weather. So the analogy of all you have to do is serve and not envision the entire field gets a little muddled because you would have to actively think about how you would get her to hit the ball back in the place you want it. In other words, you have to think about potential topics of conversation that would be unique to every girl you could approach which means that you indeed need above average social skills for the cold approach because if you don’t you are setting yourself up for failure. You need to actively think about different conversation starters and segways to guide that conversation in cold approaches. The woman will not do this for you because it is her who is testing your social resolve even if she is interested in you. And this is strictly for cold approaches not simply approaches which is a broad term. And nowadays people do not have booming social circles like they did in the past thanks to the internet, so they have no choice but to rely on cold approaches or dating apps. That is why dating apps are popular. They are convenient, they remove the fear of rejection and potentially being humiliated in public and letting everyone know “I don’t deserve to exist because I’m not worthy enough as a man!!!” and they solve the issue of not having a good enough social circle which is common these days, especially among the youth. So while this is solid advice, I believe it needs to be tweaked a bit depending on the type of approach you are referring to. And for cold approaches it isn’t as simple as the analogy you make it out which is a contributing factor to why many men are afraid to do this. It’s complicated and they do need to play both sides a bit until momentum is created, especially for the average man and below average man. Why does cold approach require you to play both sides? Well let’s face it, most women are not socially as adept when it comes to interactions between men and women because they don’t require to woo the opposite sex with their social prowess. They already achieved success when they woo the man by her looks alone, which is why women use makeup to increase her perceived value. Therefore a man must make up and carry for her poor play style even if she doesn’t intend it and truly wants to play nice but can’t because of her lack of skill and the lack of topics since you never met the person prior. This requires men to actively have to study and understand the female mind. Women have the luxury and privilege of not having to understand the male mind because they aren’t the ones approaching and are the ones shopping for men in a store with endless options. The non-cold approach which this advice best suits helps to bring the man conversation starters and potential segways as he leads the conversation and test the waters to see if she reciprocates. As long as he is not socially retarded, then yes all he has to do is serve and see if she plays nice and hits the ball back (meaning she wants to play and is displaying mutual internet in you).

[@Bibbo8844hdbks]

Thanks!

[@AlbertCamus-r6i]

I always thought Women hate me/aren't into me by default. Keeps me safe, keeps me calm.

[@foreverblessed6443]

I think the same way about men as a woman

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

I think the same away about God.

[@pamalapurplepantys4184]

Unless she drops her Pantys in Aisle 5 at a local Grocery store in public while her friend is filming, don't even bother.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

lol

[@bugnyablasta8783]

best opening line for any man "hey, does your head spin around"

[@gordonosmundson3413]

I have a different take on the fear of approaching women. It's not fear of rejection, it's performance anxiety. It's the same as getting up in front of a crowd and giving a speech, Some of us are naturals at it but most approach it with trepidation. How is the audience going to react to what you say? Of course when you give a talk to a group, you have a script and the audience is there because they are interested in what you have to say. In approaching a women you don't know, there is the obvious I'm trying to connect with you, but that script may be missing and you don't know if they are interested in what you are saying, so in a way it's more difficult. Then again you have an audience of one, not a crowd. It may not matter just what you say, but the attitude you say it with is everything, those first words are a performance. I've found that the best approach is an indirect one, find something in the place or situation the two of you are in and make a comment or ask question about it. If she has any interest in you she will pick up the conversation. If not move on. There's no real pressure in this approach. Your goal here is just to open her up. She needs time to evaluate you, to see if she feels safe with you. If she warms up to you, escalate and ask her out or for her number.

[@cfpzona]

I really don't care about the whole 'extinction of the genes' thing. I never had a desire to have kids but since there were several women who kicked the tires with me about that I can at least know I would've had no problem continuing my bloodline if I so desired. Good enough for me.

[@phillipcotton833]

Approaching women in a time of "virtual introduction" is a challenge for both men& women. Pay attention to your average social setting like a shopping center, restaurant, library, etc, and you see a reluctance from people to even look one another for fear of actual human contact. I don't see things getting better in the future.

[@josephang9927]

Maybe it is better that way

[@rene-rv6pp]

This is a problem. Virtual contact is just to transform a natural thing in a bussines. It will go on and on in the near future. After we will have to pay to walk in the street

[@phillipcotton833]

@@rene-rv6pp I agree.....Sci- Fi existence

[@VaronPlateando]

both 'virtual intro' as well as real-live appeoaches (worst: simping, an sort of) need to be let gone of, substituted by unconditional indifference | ignorance. no f.o.m.o. to hold, no gents' m.e.a.t. to be 'in-wasted' to current xx.s, other than transactionally. any xx.s as such need be given 'you2' non-treatment as all aren't reluctant to benefit from current gyn.fasc mess if opportunity arises.

[@anderstermansen130]

Thats what the wo*en wanted for us men. To be so sick and tired of these games we gave up. And we dont care when they come crawling, crying, back to us once they hit their wall at 30. We adapt to loneliness. Wo*en doesnt.

[@erup777]

Thanks!

[@chanelpearls]

I can relate to that last point. When a woman is interested you don't have to offer much to the conversation. Women could hold an entire conversation in the mirror so if you are getting short closed off responses you know she is not feeling you.

[@ready2]

But then we go back to only looks. If you are good looking, tall, handsome, waste an inordinate amount on your attire then you are in, otherwise you are out since outward appearance seems to be the only deciding factor, what else could it be when you haven't even talked, just approached?

[@cor.tenebrarum]

@@ready2 Newsflash - it's always've been looks only.

[@Sam11747]

Women don't want a guy to talk. If they wanted to hear their date talk, they'd be dating a woman.

[@ready2]

@@cor.tenebrarum Well sure but before there was also social pressure to find someone and it wasn't so "in" to have such high standards, not openly anyway. Society used to curb on women's hypergamy.

[@cor.tenebrarum]

@@ready2 well now we have matriarchy so it's the other way around.

[@Khan-rz8qi]

To add on, in my observation, women’s natural lack of empathy towards men makes it very hard for them to see things from a males perspective. They only see themselves and the men they find attractive, not men as a whole. Even if men are suffering or going through hard times, women view it as some sort of punishment for unfortunate situations they’ve experienced in the past, or experiences other women have been through. When viewing the world this way, even a video like this isn’t going to matter to them, they see men’s struggles as ‘pay back’. Speaking about our problems to women doesn’t bring us anywhere, which is why men tend to try to find solutions to these problems, on their own. 👍💯

[@ayowser01]

👏

[@alienkishorekumar]

They will even do mental gymnastics like "not all men" but then go at it again.

[@Khan-rz8qi]

@@alienkishorekumar When trying to explain to women about men’s issues, they always resort to anecdotal experiences as a defense mechanism to go against the whole conversation at hand. That in itself always causes a deviation for them to quickly reclaim ‘victim status’. This doesn’t help with the conversation, nor does it help us get closer to a solution. Therefore, conversing with women about men’s struggles is pointless and a waste of time.💯

[@joaquin67]

You're spot on that they only see themselves because they really try to cut out the competition with other women with things such as "body positivity", "she's too young for you", "don't approach women anywhere except clubs, bars, and dating apps (places where they get the most free attention)", etc. They're brutal, man.

[@mobilemcsmarty1466]

@@Khan-rz8qi yes, experience tells me that it's even worse. show weakness, sickness, lose your job, merely don't advance from the time she chose you, and you'll not only not get the compassion you would give to your girl, friend, or family. from a girl you'll be punished for having troubles with contempt by her on top of your troubles. the expression "double trouble" doesn't do the experience justice. after a number of relationships my conclusion is that being with a woman is not at all a partnership, it's more like keeping a dangerous animal as a pet 😎