The standoff between men and women: how to sell a burning house

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The contemporary sexual marketplace is witnessing a Mexican standoff between men and women. Women want men to "do better," and men want women to be reasonable. Both sides are increasingly comfortable remaining single until their demands are met. In this episode, I discuss the way out of this standoff by examining how the power differential between men and women changes as a function of time. If your house is on fire, then you need to be a motivated seller.
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The contemporary sexual marketplace is witnessing a Mexican standoff between men and women. Women want men to "do better," and men want women to be reasonable. Both sides are increasingly comfortable remaining single until their demands are met. In this episode, I discuss the way out of this standoff by examining how the power differential between men and women changes as a function of time. If your house is on fire, then you need to be a motivated seller. Pre-order my book: amzn.to/3UlsTsY Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Subscribe to my newsletter: oriontarabanpsyd.com Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO7c62HZ613e7M Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #dating #men #women

[@thordivdev]

Can you link the video you mentioned?

[@summersday7894]

Eh! I don't see the problem. Everyone will either get what they want or be happy single.

[@edheldude]

​@@summersday7894Most childless people regret not having children and people will be very unhappy with little incentives to create a meaningful life if you bypass the main thing in life.

[@awsambdaman]

Orion is it possible that our ancestors figured this out and that’s why women weren’t allowed to work? Like if the expectation was every woman made zero dollars in the market, then women could marry any man and still fulfill her hypergamous need? I’m not saying it’s an ethical solution, but maybe it’s the least bad one considering all the stability and prosperity monogamy brings?

[@edheldude]

@@awsambdaman What are you talking about? Women have always worked as most people in history lived on farms in an agrarian society. Women outside farms did the same jobs as now: teaching, nursing, serving, s"x work etc.

[@7184610369]

I have a 37 year old sister and this is absolutely true. As she got older, the quality of men she could attract kept getting worse (although she's in denial).

[@perpetualprocrastinator]

No women understand the situation very well , their pride will not let themselves be vulnerable in front of men be it the brother, father , husband ..whatever.

[@summersday7894]

​@@perpetualprocrastinator lol what?!

[@georgedang449]

​@@perpetualprocrastinator Confirmation bias - all leftover women are leftover because they don't understand it. Women who do understand it, married young. The smartest women marry as virgins - Free +3 ticket given to everyone, instantly move from 5 to 8 on quality scale when it comes to marriage.

[@mani-00]

my sister was in the same boat, but at 42 years she got with a man that she wouldn't have considered a few years back, he is a nice and decent dude tho, now she is happily married and got her most precious wish...she got a son that she loves to death ♥ she is just among the 5% of the women population worldwide that could have a natural pregnancy after 40yo

[@onward2727]

@@perpetualprocrastinator massive insecurity and very fragile egos. And yet they behave like children and call us names and say we’re fragile and insecure smh When really we were all willing to legitimately take them in and love them. But they began the pushing away. They started the division. Yet they blame us for men and women drifting apart Can’t they for once look inward and be self aware and take accountability? I know they hate it. But for once, for the sake of the entire world lol, could they for once take a step back and evaluate?

[@jchoi9340]

Everything you said is logical and makes perfect sense, which is why women will never understand it.

[@brandoncrooks1681]

Why would you comment this

[@johnnyfuentes888]

@@brandoncrooks1681because it’s true

[@vibhaverma2659]

If you were a woman, you might find it hard to digest this piece of truth because it essentially says lower your guns and accept the first reasonable offer you get. It's an emotionally hard thing to accept.

[@rayzerot]

Women will never understand it? Or they'll pretend that they don't understand it?

[@vibhaverma2659]

Acceptance takes time. And when you say women will never "understand" it. You have generalised a statement for an entire gender and called them incapable of using any intellect, not the wisest statement to make. "Some women might never understand it" would have been more objectively accurate.

[@spa6hetti]

That analogy was perfect. The one factor it doesn't really account for is the fact that the family laws have driven many of us away from the market altogether.

[@steveunderhill5935]

Analogy was half right at best. Post fire you would still own the lot and would be able to rebuild for less than the price of new lot w house=apples vs oranges.

[@oyinloyeademola7086]

He who feels it knows it ! The family law is against menfolk.

[@daszieher]

​@@steveunderhill5935after my first divorce, I vowed never to get married again. Now, with my ex girlfriend, I'm just paying off her payments to the house and get to keep the thing. Much, much better than getting kicked out, having to pay anyway. Also, my money is in my company, so whatever I could have earned, I never did.😉

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Family laws can be minimized to some extent. 1. Choose a woman who is mentally and emotionally stable, i.e. calm, peaceful, agreeable. 2. Don't get married. And 3. only have 1 kid to minimize any future child support. I messed up on 1 and 2, and have pretty much ruined my life.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

@@steveunderhill5935 You're taking the example too literally. Obviously, in real life, women go through the menopause and therefore can't rebuild.

[@josephmauvais5500]

They can't see that their house is burning because of cheap likes and attention on social media

[@seanfobbs7575]

Exactly

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

The wall is coming. Menopause and ovulation failure is real.

[@baffinsansterre]

SM is a distraction/sedation for women.

[@talleneagle1974]

They don't know how to tell the difference between a man just wanting sex and a man who will want a relationship too. They are low hanging fruit for the top guys and don't understand they're average because every guy wants sex and think they're worth more than they actually are because they have options.

[@AfriqueNY]

And men don't see that women now want to make the offer. Let them

[@Highintensityhealth]

Brilliant! I wish more women in their 20s and 30s took this advice seriously.

[@whiskybravo4648]

The title made me laugh. How to sell a burning house lmao.

[@pmaitrasm]

😅😅😅

[@-441-]

Great title analogy 🤣🤣

[@plainluke722]

Genius lol

[@typatrice]

😂😂😂

[@AndrewAdawa]

Logic wins for men. Stay with your logic when dealing with women. Switch off your emotions

[@bsdiceman]

what??

[@LucasHLopez]

@@bsdiceman a newbie here hah

[@Kim-vw4nx]

Men think they are logical . That’s why men do the things they like SA their own children , other ppls children,corpses , their patients in their dental and doctor offices and most recently on their actual surgery table 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@summersday7894]

Ladies, do the same. Eff your feelings and get that bag!!!

[@sdmoore89]

Logic sounds good until you consider the comparison of a building to a human being. I don't think it's wise for the man or woman if the woman settles on the man because it's the best offer she could get at the time. That usually leads to the woman resenting the man and neither party being happy.

[@erendiraperez9455]

I’m glad I found you. My intention is to think out of the box ( different, open minded) and be knowledgeable in terms of understanding men better. I love your anecdotes, this one makes sense, unfortunately social media is trying to convince women to be prideful , and not accepting the bare minimum and bla bla . I’m just here learning and trying to not to be brainwashed. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@awsambdaman]

A woman who has lowered her gun (or maybe you never had it raised in the first place)! Props to you, if you seek to understand how men think you’ll have much better relationships. Here’s to hoping you get yourself a good one.

[@erendiraperez9455]

@@awsambdaman Thank you for sharing. It is not easy when you hear to do the opposite, but I am very open to learn.

[@dekev7503]

@@erendiraperez9455I wish you all the best honey

[@rhenriksen]

It's so refreshing to hear from a woman like yourself! You've found a great channel to follow. Best of luck to you. There are two things I've learned to require from a woman: a willingness to take accountability when appropriate, and the capacity & willingness to apologize. Adopt those two things, and men will see you as a unicorn.

[@erendiraperez9455]

@@rhenriksen I appreciate it! I will take your suggestions into account. I like to be responsible for my actions and apologize when is necessary . We are humans at the end of the day we make mistakes, but it is never too late to learn. My intention is to be compassionate , understandable, respectful . Slowly I am learning.

[@carlospita6442]

But the big question is what’re men getting from the deal ?? Men not only have to be attractive , they also have to be tall , charismatic, fun , and have resources while women just have pretty? So how’s this a good deal for males ??

[@MilosStojanovicSrb]

Men get a pretty woman. And hopefully some other nice attributes: feminine, tender, good in sex, good friend... That is actually what we want more than anything else in the world...

[@Ideophagous]

Men just have to be confident and have their affairs in order. That includes things like good hygiene and mental health, as well as finances. The rest is sometimes just women shit testing you, to see if you'll lose confidence and start stuttering if they mention that you're short or fat or whatever. Make a joke about it and move on. Of course, the better you already handled your own shit, including past traumas and weaknesses, the better prepared you'll be for such situations. There are of course women who are totally turned off if you're not 6 foot tall and have tons of money and charisma, but those are rare, and if you get rejected by one of them, just move on.

[@mrquick6775]

Yes for the most part, but then there’s a level of physical attractiveness that will breakthrough all that height stuff.. In fact I’m only 5’8-5’9 and I have never once had a woman reject me for my height. Hell, when they see my face they forget about all that. They say things like: “You’re the best looking man I’ve seen around here in YEARS!!” “Mr Quick, you are a VERY nice looking man” “Wow, you are such a GREAT LOOKING GUY”! When I see men complaining about height, I know automatically that they are either: Facially challenged, overweight, have bad teeth or some combination of bad features that they have not addressed. Also, lots of men are not getting in the gym and looksmaxxing to the fullest extent. Finally, and this may seem contradictory but women lump things like height into the same category as looks bro! That’s why you see ugly men with HEIGHT with pretty women as well!

[@mrquick6775]

Yes for the most part, but then there’s a level of physical attractiveness that will breakthrough all that height stuff.. In fact I’m only 5’8-5’9 and I have never once had a woman reject me for my height. Hell, when they see my face they forget about all that. They say things like: “You’re the best looking man I’ve seen around here in YEARS!!” “Mr Quick, you are a VERY nice looking man” “Wow, you are such a GREAT LOOKING GUY”! When I see men complaining about height, I know automatically that they are either: Facially challenged, overweight, have bad teeth or some combination of bad features that they have not addressed. Also, lots of men are not getting in the gym and looksmaxxing to the fullest extent. Finally, and this may seem contradictory but women lump things like height into the same category as looks bro! That’s why you see below average looking men that have HEIGHT with pretty women as well!

[@mrquick6775]

Why KZbin why??

[@johnasamoah8668]

4:00 - 5:15 Dr. Orion tariban’s acting background making itself known

[@DaddyShegz]

real talk

[@ravazoid469]

My thoughts exactly

[@marse7092]

Fantastic presentation here! Very entertaining to watch 😂

[@icekills1]

Face expression is on point😄

[@TheTrendDoctor]

Glad someone else saw jt

[@gabbyngu7956]

I just sent a text to my partner to stop my house from burning down, and it worked. From a female fun. Thanks for your incredible advice 👏 ❤

[@verb0ze]

😂😂😂

[@gabbyngu7956]

@verb0ze 😂😂😂 I had too even if I get it for a discount its better than ashes 😆. Are you from Ghana?

[@Straga_Severa_]

Well, you are a wise woman. =-)

[@ryuharuentertainment8957]

What a perfect analogy! Can't wait to hear this one.

[@BooyahStan]

That's a powerful idea I'm sure most women will refuse.

[@TroyDeFrates-jh8fc]

At 12:12 he nails the punch line lesson: lf you are serious with yourself...yep, self truth, no words will change her.

[@ka9202]

But, women aren't just holding on to their pride they are holding on to their jobs ( as more women are entering the workforce), their money ( or the illusion of it), girls trips, their freedom and because there are more and more singles in their late 20s, 30s and 40s they can take refuge in the fact that while they are single they're not on their own island ,so to speak, they have other women who have chosen to go it alone, as well. So my question is how does this all end, considering shifting perception that women are the ones working and young men are all living in their "Mother's basements?"

[@themasculinismmovement]

The only reason they are judged only based on physical appearance is becuase thats the only aspect of themselves they cultivate. If they cultivated character they'd be judged on that, but they don't.

[@ritastevensakari387]

The one caveat I’m not going to bypass here is the assumption that time brings a woman’s value down only. There are a plethora of factors that bring a man’s value down over time, so please let’s stop the women’s value is always down narrative. Also, just like any commodity, if you invest in yourself so your value increases over time, you will not have to participate in the “stand off”.

[@CX0909]

You request a stop to the narrative that a woman's value goes down over time… Right after saying that there are many reasons why a man's value goes down over time. That attitude, right there, is precisely why men are throwing their hands up in the air and quitting. We are exhausted and furious with the narrative that women and children and pets are loved unconditionally yet men are only loved for what they can give. Our lives, as proven by data and statistics, are shorter and our rates of depression, anxiety, homelessness, and suicide are profoundly higher than that of women. Why do you think that is??? And if your answer is some bile filled misandrist devaluation of men then you still don't get it.

[@rickg7838]

Most probably, the most powerful video you have made up to this point. Bravo

[@HD46409]

The standoff will not resolve itself. Supply and demand doesn't fix it. In China there is both a massive surplus of men and a large contingent of "leftover women". China is also culturally more conservative so culture isn't likely to fix the issue. Also, there is going to be a huge psychological hangover from all this. There's a concept called inequity aversion that's going to make both men and women unlikely to want to transact in the sexual and relationship marketplace. Both men and women have both realized that relationships suck for them. What they don't understand is that relationships suck for both sides of the transaction.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Facts. A lot of children from the 1990s have seen their parents get divorced and the fallout from all of that. Why would these children (who are now adults) want to take the risk. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

[@a-t5380]

Ever so often I read a comment and I’m just so impressed with the writing and thought process of the person who posted it. This is one of those comments. I’d love for you to go into deeper detail. I feel the same exact way without the skill and ability to formulate it into words

[@Lex_Lugar]

Great comment. Every relationship is different though and I feel the generalizations happening on youtube are more poisoning younger (under 32) men who are already bitter and women are largely unaffected.

[@nelsonzambrano5788]

The difference is that in China, there's alot of social pressure for people to use common sense..The "left over women" are the ones that got bamboozled by the Western idea of "success" - They've got families, that were telling them all along "You're barking up the wrong tree" - The massive surplus of Men, they can always do things to increase their value (again that social pressure), but women quickly lose value, at least from the desirability aspect - While those Men that focus on improving their value will increase. -

[@andrasbiro3007]

China is a completely different can of worms in every way. No relevance to western issues. And no, relationship doesn't suck for both. That's just another propaganda from modern snake oil sales man. But with this attitude you are guaranteed to fail.

[@tigre9271]

What's the BOTTOM LINE? Generally speaking, neither gender wants to settle. There is your stand-still. So each person needs to understand who THEY are, what they want, and most importantly, what they DON'T want and act accordingly to achieve their goals. That is the bottom line. It's NOT telling women or trying to scare women into changing for men. So either work on yourself and keep moving or remain rigid and hope for the best with the acceptance that you may end up alone. Trying to change the mindset of 50% of the population, whether you're a man or a woman, is futile and self defeating. Why do you think there are so many angry single people? You decide and control and uphold your OWN boundaries. You can't control others to not cross them. You basically gave women the "If you don't fall in line, you'll end up alone with cats" line. That doesn't work. That's not a threat. Women love cats and PEACE. Alone with cats is exponentially more favorable and peaceful than married to the wrong man.

[@tanyaflanders2196]

@@tigre9271 thank you for saying this.

[@shankar3651]

It's no threat when it's simply stating what's true. This situation won't last forever, and is merely a heads-up for the rare few who set aside their pride and listen. It is a fact that is proven across countless generations that men age like fine wine while women age like milk, and so the longer women hold on to their diminishing value, men will eventually reap the rewards by attracting younger women. In this regard, men will always win the race against time, and womens current bargaining power comes from men being too eager to buy cheap product for too much. Todays women are greedy partly due to the cultural environment letting them get away with it. They are hoping their value will grow indefinetly the longer they sit on it, while not realizing that there is a very real bubble about to burst and upend the market the longer any of them refuse to sell. Once that happens, and it will, womens value will crash and it will be a buyers market for the men. Men will eventually buy the luxury product for dirt cheap, while the old embittered feminist generation of women won't be able to sell even if they gave it away for free. You can even see the inverse of this currently happening with young men getting together with older women, and that is the canary in the mine for what is to come. So you see, it's not so much a threat as it is more of a suggestion to sell when the prices are still good. You had best hope that you time it right and don't miss your window of opportunity before then because once it's gone, it will be gone for a good long while before it returns to normal, and in the meanwhile you will be left holding nothing but ash. If you play the market, don't be surprised when it plays you back.

[@tigre9271]

@shankar3651 Something being true or not in your mind is irrelevant. Your alone with cats mentality and women age like old milk is meant as a deterrent or in your chicken-sh!t words, “A suggestion“ to deter women from doing what they want like remaining single, not having children and being self sufficient. If you think men will always win, then why are you so bothered what women do? Why not just ride into the sunset with your young woman? Why are you “suggesting “ that women sell their goods while the prices are good” if your prospects are so bright?. If you were smart, why would you suggest it that way, if you really wanted women to change? Women will not respond to your crude, misogynistic, demeaning language. You are actually pushing women further away, especially the younger women. Lol! You still don't get it. Women would RATHER be alone with cats and age like old milk than be with the wrong man. Women want their peace. Women are tired of getting burned. Then men say, “You should just choose better”. Well, women are taking ONE piece of advice men gave them. They are now CHOOSING better. And if they can't find it, they will choose themselves. The difference between men and women in this situation is. Men are trying to coerce, threaten, manipulate and “suggest” that women change,and settle for less. But women are NOT asking men to change. Women are just rejecting them and will take their chances on remaining single. You're desperate attempts to manipulate women is obvious. And so is your bitterness. Because all your “suggestions” are having the opposite effect on women. But, men can't help it, when they are afraid and desperate, they will attack the object of their desire even to their own detriment.

[@johnroberts3824]

Telling women to "settle" is against their rule book. And if they do settle, expect higher divorce rates. However that strategy is not a total loss for the women, because they get to walk away with half your stuff.

[@georgedang449]

They act like time is on their side instead of on men's. Why is that?

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

I lost 70% in my UK divorce. Losing 70% is also common in USA divorces. For example, if there is a $100k marital pot, it would get split 50-50 in the States, but the judge could get the husband to pay her 10k for lump sum alimony and 10k for ex-wife's legal fees, so the split would be $70k to her and $30k to him. I'm not sure why people keeping saying men only lose 50%???

[@marse7092]

@@georgedang449because they are biologically wired to only love and appreciate pets and the top 10% men. Better to be alone than stuck with a loser.

[@Lex_Lugar]

You’re right and as good as this video is, it just speaks to bitter male fantasy. Women are not going to change their biology because of a youtube video LOL

[@johnroberts3824]

@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 They lose 50% of all assets, and then there's alimony on top of that. The 50% number comes from the asset split, not including alimony. For me, I lost 50% of everything, plus another $70K lump sum alimony payment. Not all divorces have alimony. If there are no kids and wife has a decent career, she may not qualify for alimony.

[@caligirliniowaworld]

I'm widowed from an excellent human being. We both served in the military and most of our adult life until his passing had been in service. My husband and I both went to college and did very well for ourselves and our children. I'm still raising our kids. I've have lived in 10 states and 2 foreign countries. American men tend to be the most narcissistic. I dated on the insistence of his bf. It was the worst mistake I have ever made. I know the quality of men do NOT exist in my age. Divorced men are divorced for a reason. The amount of entitled behavior and lack of EQ is VERY prevalent in dating in all ages. Men still feel entitled to holding onto old patronizing behavior. It's so bad out here, I've had to relearn cluster b personality types that I learned from my psyc degree!! The reality is I never needed my husband, we had a partnership because our military backgrounds enabled that. No one needs anyone to make it in life... you need community. Women are tired of raising other people's kids(men) because they settle. I rather stay widowed and alone🥰

[@AfriqueNY]

I get your point. I think the men most women find attractive have harems and rotations and therefore don't need women either. Hence standoff. This is for those who do want a healthy relationship.

[@teefrankenstein4340]

Funny, I think the total opposite of you. Most women act narcissistic, don’t seem to really understand men or care for their well-being, and most that are divorced are divorced for a reason and men are tired of taking care of their children from other men. I guess the standoff will continue, our birthrates will continue to fall, we will take in more immigrants to make up the difference, and we will all be worse off in the long-run.

[@SilentCosmicNight]

Stay strong! And do not settle men! Modern women ain't worth it!

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Hold the line gents. Simping will back fire long term. You will end up losing your money, house and kids 10 years later in divorce.

[@АлексейПлакхин]

If other wealthier men is growing your kids isn't it better start for them?

[@ranglumoje5649]

You are not worth it ;)

[@GhostSimonRiley-fg7il]

@@ranglumoje5649 you too

[@zoso9391]

8:14"a lot of interesting and important attributes go unnoticed when unpaired with physycal attractiveness" I think this also applied to me as a man. Most of my best features wnet unnoticed because I can't get a foot in the door (speking in past tense because I'm not even trying anymore) When searching for a serious relationship, you might be right... but only to a certain extend. Physical appearance has become way to important for both sexes.

[@autarko]

That's what I was thinking. Imo, it's women who are more obsessed about men's looks than the other way around.

[@mrquick6775]

@@autarko You know what, I honestly think it has always been this way to some degree at least. Women are far more superficial than men are

[@toriandjojo2018]

@@autarkoyep! Take it from a woman with her own career and own money-we want someone who legit turns us on… it takes sex appeal for that. Men want the same. And… I’m willing to say most men aren’t maintaining themselves just to end up like Johnny Depp, used and abused in horrible ways.

[@musicalfringe]

It's become too important because basic self-care has become so rare. I don't demand a supermodel, just someone reasonable-looking who's capable of regulating their body weight.

[@mrquick6775]

@@autarko Facts!

[@aomccaskill81]

If men only seem to want sex without commitment, is it because they've either had it before or they've seen others get sex without commitment and they want the same? Does sex without commitment incentivize dysfunctional relationships because sex can be seen as a reward and it is rewarding poor behavior?

[@tigerbear3038]

To a man, what comes with commitment is often getting his wallet milked dry. Women always talk about needing to feel safe but men need to feel safe. But the safety that men and women seek are different. Women may need to feel physically and emotionally safe while a man often seek financial safety. If a woman wants commitment from a man, one thing she can do is to make him feel she’s not just after his resources. Even if a woman is a gold digger, the smartest thing she can do is make herself appear like she’s not after his money and that includes not allowing him to pay for everything and being spoiled by him. If a woman is capable of being patient and play the long game, she can win over any woman that shows up immediately demanding a man lavish her and pay for all her stuff

[@agentofthewild684]

My house burned to the ground before I had a choice and now I'm rebuilding it from the ground up, but women can't see the efforts in rebuilding. They only see something that isn't completed. Maybe it is just my age, but I don't care what they think anymore and I'm building it exactly how I want it. That way everything I have rebuilt benefits my children and me.

[@derwoodhamburger]

They only focus on what ISN'T there, not what's right in front of them. It's part of their solipsism

[@musicalfringe]

You expressed my attitude perfectly. I realised the other day that I'm just not interested in assessing myself by their standards any more.

[@Amlux1984]

I think hoemath does a better job of explaining the dynamic and it won’t change as long as women earn the same or more than men. Also urbanization always produces less kids throughout history and we’re more urbanized than ever. If we define relationships between men and women as a shakedown (that’s what Crassus did) we are definitely doomed. Yes, Orion has rational points, but we don’t live rationally (which is okay) in every way, so if this is the dynamic presented to women no wonder they would rather get a career than a man who is seeking to do as little as possible for you.

[@jameswilson1522]

Incredible Wisdom ! Thanks Brother ! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ !

[@slartibartfast2452]

This is a tactic which expanded, not the other. Only now it's international, common practice, and not the just individuals involved.

[@omshantiiify]

Acting in a manner that hastens the most optimal outcome in a situation does not equal settling for men who don’t meet my standards. I’m optimistic but unwilling to settle for unhealthy unhappy or unattractive men. My happiness is not reliant on my finding a good man. How is what I said denial? Do you know me? Is it possible you’re projecting?

[@cheekymonkeygirl3378]

Well said. ❤

[@rahulterwade]

I can say so much but I wouldn't as I know it will fall on deaf ears. God help those who help themselves. If you're not willing to change for your own betterment cause it conflicts with your beliefs which are the reason for your mental illness.

[@AKASHROY-i9f]

Tell the same thing when you are 50 and alone lol😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@watamutha]

That really depends on how bad society gets as men withdraw. The bad deal you think you get now likely will get even worse.

[@AKASHROY-i9f]

@@omshantiiify That's why there are lots of single unhappy mother's in the society

[@dimitriskep4488]

There are MANY people who are addicted to the Mexican stand off. Like counting winning strikes. Men and women. And after the stand off ends , they are moving to the next one. This is some serious content for a video. Thank you for this video.

[@legiontepes3474]

The answer it's a passport. I'm trying Thailand first and Philippines later.

[@michaelh6551]

As someone who survived a disastrous marriage to a Filipino, my advice is this. Find someone with a proven work ethic, preferably from a middle class family. Lazy women from poor families looking to marry a foreigner will throw themselves at you, but you will be entering a world of trouble.

[@legiontepes3474]

@@michaelh6551 i don't believe they are all saints. Just less demanding. I'll take my time and vet like I've done in my country EU.

[@upstar21t]

That won't work longterm, since the men from those countries will then have no women, causing a massive backlash towards foreigners. A ticking time bomb.

[@kengaroo5170]

It's the same dynamics, but your money will buy more.

[@user-uc7qb1su4e]

This video is the most legendary video you’ve ever made.

[@derekwalker1114]

That story makes me wonder if Krassus was staring the fires 🔥 🤔

[@glennlgg6871]

If (wo)men are happy enough being single, then what's the problem. The true issue is being honest to yourself. What do you really want and what is the highest acceptable price? After that, live with your choices.

[@tomcavanaugh5237]

That's what marriage is, fighting in a burning house.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Marriage is actually the transfer of power, leverage and wealth to the wife. The whole thing is a legalized scam.

[@2coffinfuneral486]

bro your comment though! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@t-spark]

Orion, while this is a good overall principle, there are a lot of con men out there pretending to be serious. And younger women, looking to sell early, are more vulnerable. Have you already explained the link between making sure the offer is real (not just relying on romantic illusions), and accepting it? I ask this as a guy who has seen too many relatives fall to scumbags.

[@tomyoung8563]

LOL You can’t con an honest man

[@jimgoplayoutsideable]

are you actually proposing to disillusion women .... wait what? What universe you live in? Hahaha, it's always been the father, grandfather, brother, male cousin, etc. job to make sure she doesn't get conned by a scumbag

[@RupertMcGruber]

This.

[@t-spark]

​@@tomyoung8563 Not sure what you mean. You mean you think its not possible to con an honest woman, because you cant con an honest man?

[@Doberman_6773]

We used to have a way to mitigate this - fathers would meet their daughter's suitors. Society decided to scrap that system, so here we are.

[@Michael-ei3vy]

Smart men dont buy burning houses. Month to month lease is only way to go

[@pmaitrasm]

Men earn. Men conserve. Women like to spend. Men have money. Women, not much. Now GDP is an indicator of money supply and money velocity. How to increase the money supply and money velocity? You know the answer.

[@armandaneshjoo]

Men do earn. Men do not conserve. Men promise firefighters, then let the people's house burn down. Men build empires of ash. If I was a woman, I'd strive for a job, not marriage.

[@wtfuredead]

give it to women? (sorry if i'm not the smartest cookie)

[@edheldude]

Women control over half of the wealth in the US

[@awsambdaman]

Yeah something that never gets mentioned in male-female relationships is how much a man increases a woman’s wealth. Practically any relationship a woman gets into, the man earns more and thus increases the woman’s wealth. Women complain about all the chores in a relationship but I never hear anyone mention this: MEN MAKE WOMEN RICHER. Can’t replace a provider

[@armandaneshjoo]

@@awsambdaman Women don't need men. They can work and earn money.

[@PointWithin]

I’m taking the time to do much needed repairs and upgrades to my property. Even if I don’t get offers I’ll still appreciate the improvements.

[@r-o-b]

I was hoping to hear more about the devaluation of “commitment.” Isn’t it practically meaningless?

[@mike2561]

As a man I will never put my gun down first. Why should I, when I have maximum leverage compared to females?(ie. mortgage free house, physical fitness, car, no debt and loads of equity, access to 20-year old females).

[@jackworth2981]

Dr Orion as always fundamental and classic BUT this time he might not fuIIy considers one thing - his approach is very RATIONAL and LOGICAL from male phylosopher point of view, the opposite consideration is very EMOTIONAL and SELF-CENTRED from remale perspective, and this gender difference does not allow opposite genders to find the consensus. The practical resolution I can see in ppropaganda and education on national level. Recent global events demonstrated that propaganda and education on national level works well with the masses.

[@willemvanriet7160]

Things are changing now with our consciousness awakening and our reactions not merely based on our evolutionary programming. A match/connection is less of a "trade/exchange" based on only superficial things like appearance and more of a mutual merger at an equal level based on holistic, comprehensive suite of character traits that includes intelligence and spiritual maturity etc. Perhaps a good topic for a future flog.

[@jimgoplayoutsideable]

I used to think that way So far, all I found is that I was kidding myself Even the most spiritually aware women are still women They will speak all kinds of wisdom... and then turn around and act like a materialistic child... and then giggle. Planetary consciousness is estimated to be around an 8-9 yo girl (earth being female). So what can we really expect? Just have fun seems to be the order of the day. Get you some muscles and enjoy the attention.

[@veritas5078]

Wow, Taraban is good. Really good.

[@SmileyEmoji42]

But a man wants to get laid now, not a few years later when he's had a pay rise and accumulated some savings. He can only "win" if there are other women who take OT's advice, otherwise the stanndoff remains

[@chipsteve]

You're leaving our prostitution, which gives him that now for the price of dinner & wine in a nice restaurant.

[@upstar21t]

Ezgortz are a thing, ya know.

[@SmileyEmoji42]

@@upstar21t If that works for you then why are you even bothering to watch these videos?

[@upstar21t]

@@SmileyEmoji42 I'm just saying, if it gets that bad, men might wanna consider that, no ill intent or anything.

[@peggy4169]

I’m fortunate enough to be an excellent shape and 60. I’ve worked out regularly most of my adult life and also do yoga fortunate because I do get many offers and I’m not willing to settle just to settle and if my house does start to burn, I have good insurance.

[@paulocl2]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bruhhhhh718]

bro have u looked at ur picture?

[@moeanthony9308]

God bro you making us jealous

[@justinc1482]

Lol

[@jared3003]

It is not really a standoff since all men have to do is wait unless God take the man. What men want from women always benefit women at the end, unless she falls on a bad man. But what women want from men always benefit themselves.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

Simps will never hold the line. But ultimately they will end up losing their money, house and kids in divorce 10 years later. So ultimately simps lose long term.

[@raymond_sycamore]

Men are not in the "standoff." We're being flat out rejected wholeheartedly not just by women but by society.

[@king-nick2023]

I'm in this terrible situation right now.. I'm stuck going to drug and alcohol courses with women I'm not interested in. The people in charge are women and we're trying to play match maker. As soon as I said "I'm just here for recovery and not to date or find friends" the passive aggressive behavior came. Most these women have two or more kids, are married, 30 plus pounds over weight and don't have any money what do ever. Probably gonna go to prison because of my unwillingness to budge but at least I have my integrity. I'd rather be in the hole then forced into a relationship with a straight disaster

[@drivethruabortion280]

All guy rehabs exist

[@bobthebuilder69429]

I have met women in their 40’s 50’s and even 60’s that are still waiting for prince charming. The other part about that stand off I notice, some of us men who do wait for the “house to burn” have been alone for a while and get used to it, and then the prospect of getting married in our lates 30’s and on becomes less desirable. I feel bad for everyone.

[@iandeynzer2883]

The issue with Orion's logic is the if a man accepts a woman who is (begrudgingly & often deceitfully) settling for less than "she thinks she is worth" then the relationship will sooner or later turn into disrespect, contempt and mental abuse. Her unhappiness, regret and anger will be deflected onto the man turning the relationship toxic. By that time the man will have too much to lose and will find it very difficult to walk away. The best advice is to have patience and give the relationship at least 2 years for the woman to reveal her true self. Never ignore the red flags you can see for yourself, and more importantly the ones you can't see but your mother, sisters and female friends can clearly see (ask them for the truth without sparing your feelings).

[@KendoOCE]

A beautiful analogy, thank you Orion.

[@gsftom]

As a previous owner, I’m good renting from now on. Less to worry abt when it burns down.

[@John-mg7wv]

Just a thought… this has always been the situation.

[@HoshPak]

If my house caught on fire and they low-balled me with an outrageous offer like that, I'd tell them to frick off and get to putting the fire down myself to rescue what I can. Resourceful men, you know that the land your house is standing on is also of value. While losing everything in the fire is tragic, the ashes will nurish that ground for you to grow new fruit and you will emerge from them stronger than ever before. Do not price yourself out of that possibility by selling this piece of land to a fraud! And by what I can observe, many women are the ones to lay the fire, creating this false sense of urgency in the first place.

[@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq]

Of course, Crassus is said to have been killed when his enemies poured molten gold down his throat to symbolize his greed. Moral of that story is don’t push your luck too far.

[@BosomofAbraham]

Great video. I loved the Crassus story. He was a crass scoundrel indeed. It's hard to drop your pride when confronted with such an unjust individual or reality. But life is and isn't fair. God is the one in control of our current circumstances. God giveth and He taketh away.

[@SD-mi2vc]

He was the richiest man in Rome. On par with cesasr and pompey.

[@samiam4158]

True. As men are now increasingly aware that they are being used for money and a family if a woman who would not have considered them at 22 suddenly is all over them at 32, those offers are not just falling in value over time... they are increasingly becoming no bids because it is better to be alone than a second (or 22nd) choice.

[@MeMe-od2mg]

As a woman, I do not accept guys that are wrinkly and look like raisins instead of grapes. Visual matters to a guy and I agree with that for myself. This thing that a guy looks better with age... blah! Grey hair, wrinkles, etc... I'm looking for a guy, not a father figure.

[@rsmpride8267]

The feeling is mutual dear

[@nelsonzambrano5788]

You're missing the point....Our value is not from "physical beauty" - It is from what we 1) DO 2) BECOME 3) CREATE - The physical aspect is not something that we lead with...It is the Man whom we Become - That is our value and "beauty" ....

[@Candlelight787]

​@nelsonzambrano5788 good luck trying to explain anything to someone starting the phrase with "as a woman" 😂

[@flydye45]

@@nelsonzambrano5788 How about we believe her for a moment? She is telling the truth, and she is acting EXACTLY like the Dr. is describing: She wants the wallet, she wants the status, she wants the abs, and she wants liberal politics. That is her 'price'. And you are ALSO acting like the Dr. suggests: Stating her price is too high. SHE, not you, gets to set her price, but YOU, not her decide if you want to be a buyer. She, like many a person selling something expensive, may not find any buyers she finds 'qualified'. That is on her.

[@MSV667]

* Clint Eastwood glare* 🔥

[@barefootarts737]

This advice leaves men without any responsibility. True as it may be. Something is incomplete.

[@JeffjeffJeffjeff-y4y]

Fun analogy. I was a bit too distracted though as I imagined myself as the fireman. Can I really keep my hose dry? There does seem to be a sort of spiritual (or peaceful if you don’t like that word) state to celibacy and semen retention.

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

That’s why the oldest business in the world is doing so well as there is always someone willing to sell or give what your not open to

[@Rox123ify]

"How often do you think of the Roman empire?" *gestures at video:* yes

[@DragonNo1]

Marcus Licinius Crassus: what an unscrupulous genius! An inspiration for us good and nice men in the XXI Century.

[@9avedon]

Extortion is not genius.

[@georgedang449]

​@@9avedon That's the emotional response.

[@9avedon]

@@georgedang449 Burning House analogy is no better than spoiled fruit.

[@rayrwyr]

@@9avedon -- If Crassus's Fire Department is private sector company and not government-funded and not funded by public money, then what Crassus is not an extortion. It is unkind at worst and smart business at best.

[@9avedon]

@@rayrwyr What where talking about is a protection Racket, like the Mafia, hardly a small business, they literally kill the competition, they set the fire.This is why its a BS analogy.

[@NaruOotori]

It's not like they would die without getting commitment. They can work, right?

[@maamuush]

These days most men are not looking to buy a house, they just want to get a nice house for free and use it until the best years are gone and the house is worth next to nothing, whilst, women wants to focus on career and be financially independent so they don't even need to sell their house 😂

[@funent9611]

I'm virgin and waiting and I literally still have to remind myself. Most women are not looking for what YOU'RE looking for. As a teen, you think you're getting used, older you realize you're the one ALLOWING them to use you. Now, I see I was gambling my entire life and I was okay with it too... I don't fuck around so if I fall, 🤦🏽‍♂️💀. I've learned enough. Women will TAKE the mile, even if given all but 1 inch, and they wonder why you don't want to be equal 😂. I'm 22, not rich. I barely make pay. I just thought wrong. You're a second Father Orion. Truly 💙

[@garyavenue8225]

The only reason this problem exists in the first place is because men willingly gave over the power of who does the selection in relationships to women. We are seeing now the inevitable outcome of the so-called "sexual revolution". Indeed, selection was the central tenet of it. The problem with this change in power dynamics, is that when women do the selecting, society always devolves into polygamy, which is what our society has become (i.e. where the select few top men share all of the women). This standoff only ends when men take this power back from women (and they will eventually). The pendulum will swing back the other way, and given how far it has swung in this direction, the swing back will hit women very hard. The restrictions placed on them will make the 1950's look like Sodom and Gomorrah by comparison.

[@JJ-wi2uw]

" (and they will eventually)" ..... it will be a VERY long time before this happens or it will happen in circumstances where the marriage and birth rate plummets. Though the elites are happy to import more second and third world immigrants into the West to make up for the low birth rate.

[@alexisc7565]

It's amazing how much you males want to force women who don't want you to be with you lol

[@charthers8903]

In modern reality the state steps in and pays women for their burned down houses

[@incassable]

this is pure Genius

[@M7_Saffar]

depreciation asset time always enimy #1

[@makarShow]

I think what you are saying is right, it’s definitely a tendency. But I feel like it’s a lot less black and white. For example, I am not really attracted to the women that are too young, they are usually a bit immature. And I am often attracted to older women as they are more interesting. (I am in my mid-twenties). So for me, their house maybe starts burning at like 35🤷🏻‍♂️

[@zetristan4525]

This so exemplifies why the Taraban ultimately gets lost, mind smothering spirit. As a man myself, I would never sell to Crassus - he'll use his profit to buy the government, and more and more essential services. Life is not a joy in a world we sell to the mafia. *And indeed, currently, the corporates and lobbies are increasing their valuation over time, while ours decreases.

[@babyelephant5098]

The cut decides what milk is good. I will always remind this myself when I deal with any woman

[@Cwlockhart]

He’s right, your offer at 20 years old will be much greater than your offer at 35 years old.

[@Justsayin2000]

I think your assessment is reasonable and you have been able to be objective which is something neither side has the ability to manage. No one wins if neither side is willing to take any responsibility for the current situation.

[@Katiewithdaffodils]

Unsubscribed, uncertain if i agree with what you're saying but i can see for sure that your community is toxic, based on the comments, they just seem to hate women. That's not hard to find online, so why go looking for it?

[@Terstanl3]

@@Katiewithdaffodils a lot of them are just hurt voices screaming into the void. Don’t let channels like this get to you.

[@tali20k]

Wow... That's hush... I'm shocked how realistic this is.

[@ChrisKimDMD]

Well, as a woman ages, older men are attracted to her to balance things out. So I'm not convinced she has a burning house at hand 😁 I'm just having fun, guys

[@mattnelson9987]

The number of 6's who think they are 10's in Southern California is unreal.

[@vagaboots]

Dr Taraban doing God's work

[@simontmn]

Men's value only increases over time for a fairly limited period, typically to mid/late 20s. Our greater income and assets eventually don't compensate for increasing age. However our value declines more slowly than for women so relative value vs same woman does increase.

[@georgedang449]

Absolutely wrong, you can't even begin to build real wealth by your mid 20s. It actually sounds like cope to lure men in their 30s and 40s to marry old expired barren women, instead of the 20 something young wife now that they finally are able to obtain with their house and enough income to provide for a single earner household in modern economy.

[@rhenriksen]

The practical flaw in the analogy is that a house will burn to the ground in a matter of hours, not 10-20 years. It's a lot easier for someone to let go of their prior perceived value - the original, sunk cost - when they can see the fire proceeding minute by minute. Women lose market value year by year, not minute by minute. And so the delusion continues, until they are played out and hit the wall.

[@greenfinmusic5142]

Don't forget bodycount. A woman can drastically devalue herself in almost no time just by whoring around. Most men would strongly prefer/value a prudent 30 year old with 2 past partners over a slutty 25 year old with 102 notches, all else being equal.

[@bashirediouf584]

😊 You can tell that dude started the fires himself

[@BeautiHacks]

10:08 Damnit I hate it when he’s right. 😂 But here’s the thing… it’s usually the older women who notice this about matured men, the younger girls don’t see it like this, not yet anyway. So, is the cat chasing its own tail or that of another...?

[@Detonator007]

The “Standoff was created by the savage capitalistic system”

[@Liluli13]

And yet sometimes it's better to not take that offer and go off alone living peacefully in a cave since those 40k might just turn out as monopoly money...

[@janeentumbao8690]

Gals... Know the real value of your home. Learn how to prevent fires. Get homeowners insurance. Have the best security system you can afford. Don't sell your until you're ready. And sell it to the highest bidder. They're out there. Don't settle. 😊

[@higzas]

You kinda missed the point of the video :)

[@janeentumbao8690]

@@higzas You kinda missed a shower or two. 😄

[@higzas]

@@janeentumbao8690 attacking with petty insults on hygiene really proves your point 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@janeentumbao8690]

@@higzas Yup. 😜😝😁

[@OPTHolisticServices]

Hi Dr. Orion, thanks for your input 🫶🙏🏻...question, this predominant standoff you are describing in the current man-women sexual dynamics is that manifesting in the United States specifically or globally? Please clarify geography, perhaps culture too, thanks...💗🍃🙏

[@dls95405]

Brilliant analogy. I hope you have good security, I can imagine the steam coming out of many women's ears listening to this.

[@sl3269]

This will probably become one of you best videos. Awesome stuff ❤!😊

[@jimh6070]

Tough truth

[@MuEnViFitness]

Great vid. How would you go about making your woman understand this?

[@armorbearer9702]

Basically, women need to start dating immediately. There will be good men and Crassus vying for the woman; however, waiting will only leave beggars and Crassus available to choose from.

[@georgedang449]

Statistically, high body count women, at any age point, have vastly higher divorce rates compared to virgins at time of marriage, at the same age point. The man they vilify as Caessus, is in fact the man who will put out their fire that is pride, and give the best offer at any point in time. She's not entitled to a man, any man putting out her fire. She is entitled to her house burning to the ground, nothing else.

[@stephanie7572]

I always tell college girls, this is the time to find your husband, if not now, then the first year you are working. The opportunities go downhill after that. 18-26 is the optimum age for meeting, getting engaged and marriage. Sure, the guy next to you in class in a sloppy sweatshirt and jeans, kinda nerdy and an engineering major, not a lot to say...may not be your ideal, but when you run into him five years from now and he's looking sharp with a high-paying tech job and nice car, you'll know you missed your chance.

[@ewill312]

Fascinating episode. Love the historical references. Thanks Doc!

[@solidwegy61]

A week ago, my Son, wife, and I were playing monopoly. I had 1 red spot, water utility, 2 light blue spots, 2 ralroads and 2 pink spots. My son had 2 railroads 1 blue, 1 pink. Wife had 1 electric, 2 orange, 1 brown and 1 light blue. I exchanged my Son's pink spot for my 2 railroads 😂. I told my wife "I'll give you the water company, get out of jail card and 300" she said "No 600" so I told her "ok, be stubborn". That same turn maxed out all my pink set to 12 houses (no hotels😉) I asked her "you sure?" She said no, I know what you're trying to do" I said "Ok" and proceed to buy one brown, red, yellow and green. She got desperate and offered a get out of jail card, 400 and I stopped her there "No light blue? No deal" she said "No way" I said "Burn slowly then!😂" and eventually I commanded the board. We had to end the game because we needed to go eat and buy stuff, she said whomever has more money wins (my son did) so I laughed and accepted as I told him you beat me buddy!

[@tess7798]

Dr Orion has found an audience desperate to blame the opposite gender for their own less than stellar experiences. As long as men remain pissed at women, the doctor makes money. Oh, and his audience? They feel validated and walk away more pissed at women, and less prepared to succeed in relationships.

[@Candlelight787]

Wrong honey. You are just upset the jig is up. Men see most of you bring nothing to the table besides the table on which you plan to eat and gain 50 pounds right after the commitment. So spare us the bs....

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@Candlelight787well sort of - but I think his transactional view of relationships is only part of the picture

[@Candlelight787]

@celiacresswell6909 of course it is. Dr Orion thinks like nurd. And nurds think that if they will break it to women by the members women will get this shocking epiphany and sleep with them. And that's why nurds rarely get laid, unless for goods and services lol One thing I do agree with him is on the topic of burning homeowners trying to sell their house for top dollar, while the home is barely worth the land it stands for. And while the home is appreciating asset in longevity, modern women are the opposite of that.

[@leeboy9338]

As a "potentially high value man" I second this thought 🧐. The real world is far more complex than this. He used to be less male biased in the beginning and actually had really nuanced views however being right doesn't always mean you not being harmful 🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@celiacresswell6909]

@@leeboy9338 ouch! I always go for right instead of considering the consequences: I think you are the wiser man. Maybe a good story is better than the unvarnished truth.