WHY MEPHISTON BECAME PRIMARIS... INSTEAD OF DANTE!

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Wolf Lord Rho

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Hi all Wolf Lord Rho here,
Today we discuss why The Lord of Death Mephiston, crossed the Rubicon Primaris... And not, Dante.
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@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 3 жыл бұрын
Dante: look I don't think becoming a Primaris is a good ide- Crawl rep: well your right like 40% of blood angels die an- Dante: WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR CUT ME OPEN LETS DO THIS!!!! Blood angels: O shit he doing it again HOLD HIM BACK!!!!
@NueThunderKing
@NueThunderKing 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I think even Bjorn would be suicidal if he was left activated all time.
@Burnthealphabetpeople
@Burnthealphabetpeople 3 жыл бұрын
@@NueThunderKing damn Bjorne probably does sleep more then Dante must suck
@jonahtexhex2835
@jonahtexhex2835 3 жыл бұрын
@@NueThunderKing In the lore the Dreadnoughts, it's suffering from horrifically injuries, encased in a armored coffin, wired into it still alive, with some still feel the pain of the injuries sustained(some more so a phantom pain, much like phantom limb pain or sensation soldiers feel after the loss of a limb). Like all humanity, I think the Astarties do dream, & the ones encased dream more often, for it seems as older ones tend to lose themselves over time bit by bit each time they are awakened. The Battle of Calph is a good example of this as a freshly encased Ultramarine is woken by something, he at first thinks time for battle, but no techpriests & servanters are attending to him for mission. He checks the other Dreadnoughts beside him, which are older some far older encased, they aren't awakened. He tries to get another one to awake, which he succeeds, but the older Ultramarine awakens rather grumpy, tells the inexperienced one it was a glitch in the system & to go back to sleep. It's a strange bit of Warhammer 40K lore to be still alive, while injured, (Astarties can feel the same emotions like shame or failure when they know ingrained in to them is to carry out the mission to success serving their primarch & the Emperor), wired in & encased in a coffin surrounded by a mechanical body & weapons that you can still fight. Possibly why some go berserk over time for they finally loose themselves into the dream...
@uriel005
@uriel005 3 жыл бұрын
@@NueThunderKing At this point Bjorn has been physically active in the Imperium 5 times longer than the Emperor has and Dante is approaching that at 1600 years. (Unification war was M29 iirc when the Emperor first starts his conquests and the great crusade is something like a 1000-1500 years later) so yeah they are both old boys. Still waiting on the Bjorn Guilliman meet as they had met before. Just to get a perspective of the last two astartes based characters currently active. Would be such an interesting conversation with Bjorn probably having a heap of complaints/excuses for the last 10k years he's probably got a list for big blue of things to unwreck that the current imperium doesn't even consider and bobby hasn't had time to learn about yet. edit: also how cool would it be for Bjorn to rubicon as Russ returns to be a familiar face.
@ballen6400
@ballen6400 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonahtexhex2835 where can I find more information about the 2 dreadnoughts that woke up ?
@planetoftheweek
@planetoftheweek 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Mephisto became a Primaris, but it's no problem if I miss some lore. The Wolf Lord will teach me all the lore I missed eventually.
@Historyfrek4ever
@Historyfrek4ever 3 жыл бұрын
One Dante is the best. Two let's be fair, the reason probably came down to: Dante: Sanguinius, just let me die already. Guilliman: So I had Cawl develop a way to make you even harder to kill. Dante: .... Yeah no.
@shekel8245
@shekel8245 3 жыл бұрын
This is lol. The idea of G telling Dante he can make him superior, faster, better and live longer and Dante just like 😐😑😐
@Historyfrek4ever
@Historyfrek4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Continuation: When GW decides to update Dante. Dante (gets heroically Slain): Finally. Now, I can rest. Sanguinius: ... tch. Sorry son. Dante (wakes up after having crossed the rubicon.): MOTHER !!!!
@Jakelol1980
@Jakelol1980 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking. Dante just want to die.
@princecortez1418
@princecortez1418 3 жыл бұрын
@@Historyfrek4ever considering how GW is upgrading Firstborn Marines into Primaris, somewhere in the near future Primaris Dante is assured, with some sort of flimsy justification like example Dante's vision of how he will be at Terra defending the Palace at the "End Times"
@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@princecortez1418 or he gets blown up and has he dying he hears his brothers chant. Blood angels:" Rubicon" Dante:"no noo" Blood angels:"RUBICON RUBICON RUBICON!!" *picks Dante up* Dante: "BY EMPEROR PLEASE NO" *sees tech marine with a knife* Dante: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
@theroadstopshere
@theroadstopshere 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'm torn: On the one hand, no one is more deserving of the strength and renewal granted by crossing the Primaris Rubicon than Dante, and Emperor knows he'll need both in the years to come. On the other, the idea of Dante facing down his destiny against Abbadon in front of the Golden Throne as simply himself-- firstborn space marine, legend of the Imperium, but at the core of it all just the boy Luis of Baal Secundus standing to protect his Emperor against the forces of darkness-- gives me the chills. I hope that all these years of teasing something dark and insidious potentially lying beneath the surface of Mephiston's power don't pay off in a fall or betrayal; his posession of a deep secret or understanding of the universe would make more sense, and no matter how they try to insinuate and create mystery around him it just wouldn't make good sense or for a good story to have him fall to chaos or corruption after all he's done.
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think ol' man dante shouldn't have that much trouble with Hours's living abortion of a son
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
Mephiston is connected to Sanguinius and something else that connects him to all sons of Sanguinius. He’s as important as Dante, but no one knows that secret.
@eichler721
@eichler721 3 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe exactly its his body struggling to deal with being a shard of a Primarch in him. Just like Janus being a Shard of Magnus but Mephiston doesn't have a Malcador to help him. Both will be fine Dante is watched over by the Sanguinor and Sanguinius. Mephiston is a shard and will learn how to control his power. When he does only Demon Primarch's, the top Greater Demons and such will beat him from Chaos. BloodAngels are used to fighting battles both outside and Internal. They will come back stronger.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@eichler721 i really hope they dont go that route, just bring the primarchs back ir create new interesting Astartes god damnit.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
@@eichler721 well said. Exactly. Fans who box Mephistion into being a regular marine are wrong. He gives them a stand in for Sanguinius without bringing him back. He’s also gives them a legit way to fight Daemon Primarchs and Greater Daemon (with Sanguinor). Since they are stuck on the other side
@____________838
@____________838 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I’m loving that wolf skull helm superimposed over the golden angel armor...
@eatpastarunfasta1096
@eatpastarunfasta1096 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching like "what on earth do they mean?" And as i was about to ask i saw 😂
@battlemastergenkhan4622
@battlemastergenkhan4622 3 жыл бұрын
He did it for the +1 attack...obviously 🤨
@Jakelol1980
@Jakelol1980 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@luluhammer
@luluhammer 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the extra wound
@sebbonxxsebbon6824
@sebbonxxsebbon6824 3 жыл бұрын
All important reasons!😍
@raphenangelos277
@raphenangelos277 2 жыл бұрын
They had a great chance to give him something special, very lacklustre
@kennethbedwell5188
@kennethbedwell5188 3 жыл бұрын
Dante will be crossing, it’s Inevitable. And he will survive, Sanginious will make sure of it. But I think Dante doesn’t want to for the simple fact he knows it will extend his life even further and he is too tired for that. I think of Dante as Murta from the Lethal Weapon Series: “I’m told old for this Shit.”
@kelman727
@kelman727 3 жыл бұрын
He actually says he wants to undergo it...
@bentaylor809
@bentaylor809 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelman727 in the hopes that he dies, I think
@ninjaslu1
@ninjaslu1 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha and Merphiston is Riggs “were gonna will it not to happen”
@codycurtin2295
@codycurtin2295 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentaylor809 not necessarily. he is tired and wants to die, yes. But Sanguinius said he must live for the chapter, imperium, and the emperor, Dante puts duty above all others he laments for death but knows he must fight and the fight is his number 1 priority.
@bentaylor809
@bentaylor809 3 жыл бұрын
@@codycurtin2295 fair point
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 3 жыл бұрын
Mephiston is surely one of the most epic space marines of all time. He was awesome as Calistarius, was even more awesome after transforming into Mephiston and now he has turned his awesomeness up to eleven by crossing Rubicon Primaris.
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen 3 жыл бұрын
And I love, that we in this book sees, that for all his darkness and power, he is sad and alone, only having 2 or 3 real friends while everyone else hate or fear him.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen the Fate of all who are skilled amongst His peers.
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dreadbringer and even worse for him, as he is so tied to the black rage, and his brothers instinctual dislike him for it.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen imagine what Will happen though when he dies the whole chapter will. Go berserk.
@dominichall6576
@dominichall6576 3 жыл бұрын
Astorath: *Wields Axe* Dante: Not yet Ferb
@BlaHamut
@BlaHamut 3 жыл бұрын
I like Dante worrying about what Sanguinius would think of him taking* up second in command of the imperium. And I'm just sitting here thinking if only you knew Sanguinius took up the mantle of emperor
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this book and series, and the wonderful little human moment, when Dante can't help but sulk a bit, when he learn, that Mepisthon meet Sanguinius in the warp and unlike Dante was given a choice about coming back or passing on. Dante didn't get that option, and he just wants to rest and die so badly. Only his new and enormous burden of having to save and rule half of the Imperium prevents him for going on one final suicide charge against a worth enemy.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
He needs a sucesor badly AND Lets be honesto about It, the other chapters really need to step up their games AND their chapter masters More notoriwty and feats.
@kelman727
@kelman727 3 жыл бұрын
Despite that ‘sanguinius’ told Mephiston it wasn’t him.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelman727 He said he is Dead. Which he is...Sanguinius is dead. What they see is his soul probably. Can’t wait until GH does more with the BA
@ESO-ONE
@ESO-ONE 3 жыл бұрын
I love how crossing the Rubicon saying lasted from the Roman empire to the 41st millennium.
@7Blau7
@7Blau7 3 жыл бұрын
Other Space Marines: No Brothers will be left behind Blood Angels: If he dies, he dies
@Shedovv
@Shedovv 3 жыл бұрын
I mean. It was either risk Death for a chance at life and increased power. Versus staying in the fucking box for the rest of eternity. Which is arguably a fate worse than death. Besides. At the end of the day they did have someone Psychically contact the guy and obtain his consent.
@MGone3
@MGone3 3 жыл бұрын
Dante is just looking for an excuse to die at this point
@rayvg7709
@rayvg7709 3 жыл бұрын
The Angel protects! Appeasing the algorithm Edit, I love the way Guy Haley writes about the Blood Angels.
@definatelynotalpharius
@definatelynotalpharius 3 жыл бұрын
These are trying times. I started listening to this channel during work since it helps with crunch time. Now I listen to it every time I get a chance. Awesome as always Lord Rho!
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome indeed
@thatlonewolfguy2878
@thatlonewolfguy2878 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I like the fact that we kinda have a "trinity of Sanguinius" in Dante, Mephiston and Astorath, Dante is Sanguinius' leadership, bravery and all his positive traits, Mephiston is Sanguinius' unrestrained power like the avenging angel that he is, Astorath is Sanguinius' mercy but also his darker tendencies
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if Dante come back with wings though i doubt he want to keep It Up, probably still doing It becouse there Is no one amongst His brothers on His level... Yet.
@Ianthe22
@Ianthe22 3 жыл бұрын
these exchanges in between the blood angels shows just how insane they areXDXD. I love it!!!
@EloquentTroll
@EloquentTroll 3 жыл бұрын
I like that Mephiston got a new mini, but I'm going to keep using my old metal one I bought 15 years ago
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Still looks good today !
@thenonplayerprince
@thenonplayerprince 3 жыл бұрын
Wolf Lord Rho for pristine lore, Major Kill for pure entertainment
@TrickyMcRick
@TrickyMcRick 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wolflord, loved the intro. Missed this novel's release so thanks for letting me know. Paused this video at 55 seconds brb in a couple days.
@billl2903
@billl2903 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like they really drew from Francis Ford Coppola’s Dracula armor for that Mephiston model. Interesting.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. My favorite character!!!! Mephiston is definitely the most powerful space marine. A true son of Sanguinius.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Most powerfull sound kinda empty.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dreadbringer Keep listening to Rho during BA week. He literally is...it’s nothing empty at all. Even Dante is like wtf, when he’s sword fighting Kyriss the Perverse, the same greater daemon Sanguinius defeated and beheaded. Like Sanguinius, it seems the chaos gods want Mephistion.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe i recognize His psiquic powers and love the books specially the spacehulk one, forgot the name, but at the end i think there Is no most powerfull or awesome, so many could be in that list, thats what im saying.
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen 3 жыл бұрын
He was enormously powerful, now he is a kinda reverse Sanginor. The embodiment of the darkness of Sanguinius, holding it in check to spare the wider bloodline. And he is strong.... really fucking strong!
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe i would love to see him ending the life of fucking Ahriman or the Eternal.
@Stimm002
@Stimm002 3 жыл бұрын
Just downloaded this on audible, thanks, ill listen to it tonight.
@kennethhernandez9243
@kennethhernandez9243 Ай бұрын
Darkness in the blood and the entire trilogy is just must read for any blood angel fan. If they could only figure out how to remove the black angel, even if it killed Mephiston, and combine it with the sanguinor, maybe we could get sanguinius back. The angel returning would complete the entire Space Vampire Renaissance Catholic vibe the Blood Angels have… and would make for a pretty awesome model. I know people hate the idea of primarch returning, especially sanguinius since it’s so pivotal to so much lore, but I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t go crazy to see him come back.
@miafillene4396
@miafillene4396 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Mephiston was essentially a vampire lord in power armor. Identical stats. Similar abilities. Go figure. But the new Mephy...just so damned awesome. And the lore is incredible.
@silversurfer8818
@silversurfer8818 3 жыл бұрын
The order 66 will force them to clash together, and when Mephiston killes our beloved Dante - the pain of his loss will be ten fold!
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
If Dante would fall though i guess everyone present would go full black rage.
@natecondy6193
@natecondy6193 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dreadbringerjust like events that happened 10 thousand years
@LoLo-wz3bq
@LoLo-wz3bq 3 жыл бұрын
For a long time I've suspected Dante becomes the Sangiunor, and it's pretty sweet to see the anti Sanquinor in Mephiston.
@nunyabuizness2953
@nunyabuizness2953 3 жыл бұрын
They'll make all the popular chapter masters primaris when they get badly injured in battle. Like that member of the dark angels inner circle who got too injured and crossed the Rubicon.
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath 3 жыл бұрын
I really think Dante is too old to survive. He is at least 1500 years old, and considering the success rate is even lower for the Sons of Sanguinius. It's not worth the risk of losing him. I also love the idea that he is such a tough old bastard he doesn't need it.
@nosavepoints
@nosavepoints 3 жыл бұрын
Dante's gonna get mortally wounded, people will think he's dead, morale plummets, then bam! Primaris Dante.
@Gridia444
@Gridia444 3 жыл бұрын
It was.. a trial, to be sure. I believe the main issue I had during the Rubicon Primaris transformation was all the scrubbing bubbles. You never know true clean until after the Mechanicus literally scrub your soul into rebirth.
@AzraelSoulHunter
@AzraelSoulHunter 3 жыл бұрын
For the same reason Ragnar became one instead of Logan Grimnar. Both Dante and Grimnar don't NEED that (at least not yet). They already badass and some of the best warriors in Imperium.
@toemoe4279
@toemoe4279 3 жыл бұрын
10 seconds in : Oh a video about the Lord of death ey? Funny I can't see my boy Mortarion anywhere ....well I'm sure he's gonna show up any minute since there is undoubtedly only one beeing in the universe worthy of that title !
@Kat1kafka
@Kat1kafka 3 жыл бұрын
dante:that's it I'm joining chaos
@Frankie-McGough
@Frankie-McGough 3 жыл бұрын
If Dante ever crosses the Rubicon he better start sprouting wings
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if what happens here to Mephiston is why other Astartes psykers were disappearing into the Warp: losing control but still desiring to bring the fight to Chaos, so they leave to protect their brothers. Only in Mephiston's case he was sending his brothers into mindless bloody rages.
@Drew_Thompson
@Drew_Thompson 3 жыл бұрын
Dante: If I can't die neither can you. (Anime judo chop)
@ryanexsus
@ryanexsus Жыл бұрын
Dante became Primaris also lol.
@markmueller-rougier3098
@markmueller-rougier3098 3 жыл бұрын
If Dante ever crosses, at least for me, the blood angels will cease to exist. I will have to refer to them as the chapter formerly known as the blood angels. Some legends should die unchanged. Same as they were when they became a legend. But that's just my opinion. Edited to fix a spelling error.
@megazaku1139
@megazaku1139 3 жыл бұрын
A new Firstborn Dante model would be really nice
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there will be any new Firstborn models, which is a shame but I do think alot of the SM characters will become Primaris including Dante !
@ruas4721
@ruas4721 3 жыл бұрын
@@Duppyman695 "but I do think alot of the SM characters will become Primaris including Dante !" yes, and that is horrible.
@РоманСоловьёв-к9и
@РоманСоловьёв-к9и 3 жыл бұрын
I think, Mephiston made a sacrifice like Meros saved Sanguinius and all the Blood Angels.
@stevefelten1197
@stevefelten1197 3 жыл бұрын
I love playing Blood Angels, and Mephiston is on my list always.
@DrakMorde
@DrakMorde 3 жыл бұрын
imma have to come back to watch this after ive read darkness in the blood.
@cantabrian1009
@cantabrian1009 3 жыл бұрын
Guy Pearce could play Mephiston on screen.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Good shout ......... Can't wait for Eisenhorn live action series !
@arcaneforge8749
@arcaneforge8749 3 жыл бұрын
I love it. That's a way better reason than "wounded in battle". Seeing as (1) Dante is starting to take on traits of Sanguinius and (2) Primaris marines have half a primarch organ - I forget what it's called. Could this pave the way for a Sanguinius resurrection?
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
Dante isn’t going to turn into Sanguinius. He is a great hero who just wants to die,, but can’t because of duty...but if you are following his story he’s not the special BA. It’s Mephistion, he’s the one who is has has always been changing and connected to Sanguinius in a way. He’s a Shard like Janus.
@Ally.Cat.252
@Ally.Cat.252 2 жыл бұрын
Would Mephiston be stronger than most Grey Knights now?
@garrettmastantuono8043
@garrettmastantuono8043 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone here think it would be awesome if after Dante went through the Rubicon he grew wings.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
I do thats what i comment battle brother.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.yes.yes 'An Angel to be born a new' and what a model that WILL be !
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 3 жыл бұрын
Dante is old, does not want to live and the procedure has a high lethality. So even if his sense of duty made him fight for survival, it would not be guaranteed. Plus considering the Primaris could be setup for a new type of traitor legions, it could be another way to further the themes of the dark bargain implied to come with overcoming the gene flaw.
@aerziel
@aerziel 3 жыл бұрын
he still looks like kaelthas from WOW
@tuor8087
@tuor8087 3 жыл бұрын
Dante may need to undergo the procedure, as his body is now starting to fail him, and he cannot die while he has such a vast duty ahead of him.
@jackmyers8687
@jackmyers8687 3 жыл бұрын
Death before the shame of becoming a Ultramarine puppet. Sanguinis is rolling in his coffin
@Bio_dub465
@Bio_dub465 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can do a phonix lord face off like the primarchs
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@conorkerlin5928
@conorkerlin5928 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Dante would become too powerful and outshine his Primarch and Emperor
@fistimusmaximus6576
@fistimusmaximus6576 3 жыл бұрын
lol primarchs are demi gods or have been portrayed as such, this new lore and its primaris marines is a abomination lore wise. Who could improve upon the emperor?
@conorkerlin5928
@conorkerlin5928 3 жыл бұрын
@@fistimusmaximus6576 Belisarius Cawl, apparently. Oh and Corvus, he made the raptor marines before the AL poisoned them all.
@fistimusmaximus6576
@fistimusmaximus6576 3 жыл бұрын
@@conorkerlin5928 I know its stupid
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
It could be better handled and written but the brigde has been burned so now to make the most of It.
@Jakelol1980
@Jakelol1980 3 жыл бұрын
Dante could never be as powerful as any primarch. They are on a totally different level but he would be the most powerful space marine ever.
@onemisterfranko
@onemisterfranko 3 жыл бұрын
just finished this novel today in fact.
@caligula4725
@caligula4725 Жыл бұрын
Dude is combination of Spawn, necromancer & dracula
@kelman727
@kelman727 3 жыл бұрын
...because Dante’s new model wasn’t ready yet.
@TheKontaichou
@TheKontaichou 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the ship dominance not the blood caller. They shuttled from the blood caller to the dominance
@minhducnguyen674
@minhducnguyen674 3 жыл бұрын
A healthy body can support a healthy mind. And since primaris blood angels have better control over the thirst, it's beneficial to have the primaris conversion. It's absolutely essential that the psyker can control himself during combat. Logically, converting librarian into primaris is even more beneficial than doing it on other space marine. The stronger bodies mean they can take shots while staying concentrated on the task at hand. In fact, the marine who benefit the least from the conversion are the Raven guards.
@mcmarkmarkson7115
@mcmarkmarkson7115 3 жыл бұрын
Dante can't die, he is the hope of the blood angels, as close as to sanguineous the chapter ever had, if he dies I'm afraid the whole chapter will go berserk again. Especially if Abbadon or some other chaos force kills him
@Original-Yellow
@Original-Yellow 3 жыл бұрын
Money. Dante will relaunch soon with more primaris kits
@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE
@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they had me thinking mephistin would turn into sanguinius reborn! I'm still teetering on the edge like are they gna do it?
@sps62487
@sps62487 3 жыл бұрын
So Dante will be on the verge of Death but he would of been his normal epic self. He will get hurt in battle and dying. Vulkhan Tu'Shan and his units take heavy casualties to draw fire away and allow the Blood Angels to retrieve Dante. He is saved by Mephiston and the remaining Sanguinary Guard. Corbulo tries his best but fears he can't save Dante. He then goes the procedure to become Primaris. During the procedure Dante sees images of the Sanguinor/Sanguinius and they say You will not hurt anymore and you are still needed. Then Dante is the Gold Armor figure he saw in his vision. Dante: in Cartman's voice : Son of a b....
@lindseymontgomery5837
@lindseymontgomery5837 3 жыл бұрын
Silent King: that foolish Dante knows nothing about power Dante:*after goin through Rubicon Primaris* oh really? Silent King: impossible
@Daimon-X
@Daimon-X 3 жыл бұрын
It was Mephiston's destiny, his Wyrd... The Lord of Death cannot die, not yet.
@WalkingCaptain
@WalkingCaptain 3 жыл бұрын
What if, through the procedure of red rubicon, Dande will become the host body of the Angel himself psyche, therefore...
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 жыл бұрын
Which Warhammer 40K novel would you reccomend as a starting point?
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe máster of mankind or the Primarchs omnibus brother neophyte.
@UncleMikeDrop
@UncleMikeDrop 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dreadbringer Thanks.👍
@jameslave98
@jameslave98 3 жыл бұрын
Hellsreach or Dante are two of the best and can be standalone.
@jameslave98
@jameslave98 3 жыл бұрын
Or obviously The Heresy Series: Book 1 - Horus Rises
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameslave98 better to start at 30k and after the Heresy move to 40k battle brother, though good choices indeed.
@faithandfury2275
@faithandfury2275 3 жыл бұрын
I really need to get the audio books going!
@issacdunham6257
@issacdunham6257 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they bring all blood Angel body guards to the procedure. Seems like they would just go into a black rage if he came out and they couldn't control his powers.
@ThePathStrider
@ThePathStrider 3 жыл бұрын
Dante won't take it because, deep down, he wants the operation to fail rather than suceed. His reasons aren't pure, and he knows it. He might want eternal rest, but he won't take an easy way out to get it.
@Jenn-lq9yu
@Jenn-lq9yu 3 жыл бұрын
Because Mephiston had to make himself that bit much more OP. I mean, he's already the most powerful Loyalist psyker still functioning in the Galaxy. :p
@empiricalwolf1256
@empiricalwolf1256 3 жыл бұрын
No Dante should stay as he is. If he became a primas, it would take so much from him. The pain, the weight on his shoulders, the tiredness and the godly strength he has to have all that and still do his duty.
@altaiajhin2332
@altaiajhin2332 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this had happened. Thanks for the reading, I now have a book to add to my collection. I too have been really Awaiting the Dante Upgrade, but I actually like the Mephiston one and the idea that the council basically told Dante Hell to the No, if you die we are fucked.
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
He probably doesnt want It becouse he Is tired AND want to die, the only thing keeping him alive is duty.
@altaiajhin2332
@altaiajhin2332 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dreadbringer I agree that life expectancy wise he doesn't want it, but duty wise, I believe he does and we all know Dante will put his duty over all his desires.
@Kat1kafka
@Kat1kafka 3 жыл бұрын
besides the emperor is dante like the very very main protagonist of the warhammer 40k universe
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
There is many main Characters , for Blood Angels Dante has always been Top Boy !
@codycurtin2295
@codycurtin2295 3 жыл бұрын
They might not make Dante primaris but give him some other crazy power up, which I am very much for. Avatar of Sanguinius???
@rohan0724
@rohan0724 3 жыл бұрын
All we need to do is wait for Dante to get smacked by a big necron construct
@dannyKurt
@dannyKurt 3 жыл бұрын
Find it weird how they didn't use the same Narrator from the other 2 in this one ( Gareth Armstrong ) EDIT: Although i do prefer Mephistons voice.
@jasonparrish8670
@jasonparrish8670 3 жыл бұрын
Mephiston is probably the best Astartes of all the Blood Angels + successors to understand how the Primaris transformation interacts with their gene seed and all it's built-in flaws. It's interesting that the two original Legions with (arguably) the greatest built-in flaws have the greatest conversion rate to Primaris... did they already kill off the 'weaker' marines, or did Caul spend extra time on the BA and SWs Primaris gene-seed? I do think if Dante takes the Primaris conversion, he'll come out as a mini-resurrection of Sanguinius, or at least become the living embodiment of the Sanguinor, otherwise it would be, "woah! Dante is soooooo kick ass... well, he was before, but now it's like double-secret kick ass!"
@mouseketeery
@mouseketeery 3 жыл бұрын
You got it the wrong way round - the Blood Angels and Space Wolves have a LOWER rate of surviving the upgrade procedure. It isn't impossible for them to survive it, but the risk is greater.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
They have a lower rate. Also that’s Mephistion story already. They should not do that with Dante. It would be too corny, especially since that story is already happening with another character
@Sandblaze1
@Sandblaze1 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine dante gets wings from becoming primarus
@dudewatches6125
@dudewatches6125 3 жыл бұрын
Because Dante is barely standing and Mephiston spits in the face of the Shadow in the Warp for funsies.
@dumdauzi
@dumdauzi 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing story 10/10
@danzone9168
@danzone9168 3 жыл бұрын
The reason is simple. Mephiston was dying and the blood angels decides to use him as the first one to cross the rubicorn to save his life.
@drakemguard1407
@drakemguard1407 3 жыл бұрын
Wheres Brother Rafen?? I want to know his fate!
@bingorobins1010
@bingorobins1010 3 жыл бұрын
So if dante were to die during the procedure, could he be entombed in a dreadnought or no?
@maxstr
@maxstr 3 жыл бұрын
If he died, he'd be dead. They still have to be alive to be entombed in a dreadnought
@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxstr what if they do the procedure in a dreadnought!!
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Not if he is dead, but just thinking of a Dante Dreadnought is giving me a chubby...... !!!
@ROIBR
@ROIBR 3 жыл бұрын
Hey wait, Mephiston Overcame the Red Thirst did he not? I thought he was half Dead, stuck under a Rock or what was it? And Survived 3 Days and was "Healed" from it abd became the most badass Psyker in the Ranks of the Blood Angels
@markrtoffeeman
@markrtoffeeman 3 жыл бұрын
The Primaris Rubicon is a gift from the Emperor himself. The Emperor protects.
@ruas4721
@ruas4721 3 жыл бұрын
You are gifted if you die.
@Phoros
@Phoros 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Dante just really wants to die but they won’t let him :(
@iloveplayingpr
@iloveplayingpr 3 жыл бұрын
Dante just wants to cross the Rubicon just to Die XD
@Discotekh_Dynasty
@Discotekh_Dynasty 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he just likes being reborn
@Dreadbringer
@Dreadbringer 3 жыл бұрын
Adicted to katarsis.
@mouseketeery
@mouseketeery 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Mephiston has been making a bit of a habit of it.
@56aralon
@56aralon 3 жыл бұрын
Are the blood ravens getting turned into primaris?
@Matihood1
@Matihood1 3 жыл бұрын
Is it an official rule that every book and story about the Blood Angels has to have the word "blood" in the title? Like, seriously.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
Like Devastation of Baal and Dante? City of Light? It’s about 50/50
@dpettifer9403
@dpettifer9403 3 жыл бұрын
Mephiston- lord of death... lemartes - guardian of the lost. ‘Deus encarmine’ ‘red fury’ ‘black tide’ ‘the rafen omnibus’ ‘deus sanguinius’ ‘fear to tread’ ‘Dante’ ‘devastation of Baal’ ‘shield of Baal’ ‘astorath - angel of mercy’ Do you even read blood angels 🩸
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 3 жыл бұрын
They had Blood Quest, Blood of Baal, Mephistion: Blood of Sanguinius and Darkness in the Blood. It’s actually not 50/50
@cody1570
@cody1570 3 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, have any of you guys been feeling sanguinius might come back by being reincarnated in Dante?
@rrohring1970
@rrohring1970 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason Mephiston became primarus was so GW could charge you for a new model. That’s it. It’s all about the $
@thelegendaddyspamdonut7605
@thelegendaddyspamdonut7605 3 жыл бұрын
I'd assume dante was too old and the risk is too great for him to do it.
@AncientMushrooms
@AncientMushrooms 3 жыл бұрын
Dante needs a new model, and a new weapon at that, he will cross it just not in this edition it seems. Give it a few editions and every normal astartes will have gone trough the procedure. GW wont be making any new models for them so that's the outcome I'm hoping for at least, the other options is that the normal ones die out and gets replaced or civil war/cleansing of sort.
@Aengrod
@Aengrod 3 жыл бұрын
He did it because ..... GW wanted it that way.
@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903
@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903 3 жыл бұрын
So wait the two most damaged gene lines have the best chance of marines crossing the Rubicon and living?
@ozymandias3540
@ozymandias3540 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's a lower chance of success for space wolves and blood angels.
@atlas6538
@atlas6538 3 жыл бұрын
The video literally pointed out the % is lower...
@manchester21416
@manchester21416 3 жыл бұрын
Dante wanting to die as an end to his suffering is blasphemy
@bocatt9202
@bocatt9202 3 жыл бұрын
Is it fucked up if I love Blood Angels but think Guy Haley ain't that great?
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