Why Mexican Cartels Use American Guns | The War On Drugs

[@VICE]

Watch more from this series: How Mexican Drug Cartels Make Billions - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqXMaJxnr5t3hNE

[@CMo762]

Not true! Guns shows are required to give background checks in order to purchase a firearm

[@samuelmartinezyc13]

Why don't you just tell them how the DEA supplied the Sinaloa cartel or how the Chinese supply them with norinco AKs with there precursor shipments

[@RafaelZamoraGarcia1993]

I'll save you the whole argument. That's because of Barack Obama Fast and Furious program.

[@andrewe6839]

How do they turn they into automatics? Walmart and Big 5 have only semis.

[@coronavirusisacommunistchi845]

AndrewE You just change out the firing pin assembly. And you can actually buy the assembly in America too. It’s only illegal to put them together.

[@drolay2]

I love how vice points fingers at citizen gun rights, while also ignoring the fact the U.S government is directly supporting this behind the scenes

[@j0nnY77x]

The Mexican government is also supplying guns and if they didn’t they would just go straight to the manufacturers just like they did with H&K

[@drolay2]

@@j0nnY77x very true, even if guns were not allowed in the U.S the Cartels would simply force the Mixican government to give them firearm supplys, I mean we already know that corruption at the hightest level is going on in the government.

[@echo-channel77]

By their logic, the solution is simple, ban drugs in America....oh wait... Which city has stricter gun laws, Chicago or Dallas Tx? Now look at which city has the highest per capita murders. Again, their logic fails. Everything he mentions there are already laws on the books for, but that means nothing when you have an open border and make it your goal to put crimiinals back on the street within 24 hours!!!

[@daviroza4700]

Why are Mexican cartels wearing black clothes like isis also cartels use black flags like isis so their basically copying isis and America has a new isis on their backyard 🤔

[@JC-11111]

Just because they don't mention it when and where you think they should doesn't mean they're ignoring anything 🤣 next time, you be the producer and you can decide to talk about that. That's as idiotic as the people who see someone's "Top 10" list that they made, then tell them their own list of their 10 favorite bands is wrong because "it doesn't have the bands that *I* like on it". It's not your list so wgaf who you want on it? Same thing here. It's their episode. Just because they don't talk about a subject of your choosing doesn't mean they're ignoring that subject. You need to be a lot more open-minded about things.

[@tyrantable]

A lot of those guns aren't from the "civilian" market. These are actual military weapons like machine guns, rocket launchers, and more.

[@HerCules5.7]

bump stock and money

[@stuffenjoyer2223]

It’s cheaper and easier to convert a semi auto to a full auto and discard it when it breaks. The amount cartels spend on guns is essentially pocket change

[@XavierbTM1221]

Guns like M249 and Barrets (widely used by the cartels) actually come from the United States Military, no one else in the region uses them on a large scale, other than American government forces 😁

[@jonesmike4175]

Money moves the government and we all know the army is twisted

[@marioach8635]

The USA military is selling the weapons to the cartel duh it's all about money man the drug dealers are getting military weapons too in America it's all about the money that's all everybody care about I can't wait when Jesus get back all these killers and murderers they're not going no heaven though no matter if you fighting for a cause or you just fighting just to be fine it's one of the ten commandments thou shall not kill

[@thesquirrel914]

I remember watching the videos from the cartels when the broke El Chopo's son out of prison. I saw H&K UMP-45's, MP-5's, M16's and M4's with ACOG sights and M203 grenade launchers, M249 SAW and M240 Bravo machine guns, Browning M2 .50 caliber machine guns, and even AT-4 rocket launchers. First thing I though was "Hmmm.... none of those are civilian weapons in the US. All of those are US MILITARY weapons! Wonder where they came from🤔"

[@ILoveYou-uj3vs]

Easy mate, you have guns, i have money, and then we're trade, business done.👍

[@bem8812]

They get those weapons from the same connects that supply the US military. 3rd party US weapon contractors and weapon manufacturers.

[@Crypto_prod35]

They get those weapons from the biggest criminal organization, the CIA

[@michaelcabada2933]

@@ILoveYou-uj3vs lol 😂 that's right

[@josealvarez2149]

@@Crypto_prod35 i wouldnt say that their watching us 👀👀👀

[@Yellowblueej]

The fact that they say/believe that Mexico is getting guns from the US thru people obtaining them legally is hilarious. It is a known fact how Mexico obtains guns from the US and the fact that most of them are military grade should tell you.

[@grep67]

Just like the ones left in Afghanistan. The Taliban made a HUGE score with that so called pull out..

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Gun Oil Durex

[@RafaelGomez-hj9it]

Didn’t the atf get caught during the time Biden was Vice President ?

[@gequitz]

Aren't there military grade firearms on the civilian market?

[@letholamakhakhe]

American thinks we are stupid, this is so plain to see through their propaganda

[@dragonflyeye9157]

Also no federal laws against gun trafficking ? You do realize that’s an auto felony

[@foxtailedcritter]

Vice seems confused and thinks this is legal or you don't much jail time. "straw purchaser Taisa Garcia received 33 months and buyer Marco Villalobos received 46 months, plus two years supervision after release.[28] In another Texas gun trafficking case, Oscar Bravo Hernandez received a sentence of 84 months for buying and sending to Mexico at least 55 firearms from a ring of nine straw purchasers who received sentences from 51 months for the most involved down to three years probation for the least involved.[29]"

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

Yes it is and the gun show loophole is fake look it up on Steven crowders channel I have no doubt they paid that guy to say that that’s why they blurred his face

[@AndresGarcia-cq4zi]

U do realize we are cartel..

[@AndresGarcia-cq4zi]

No federal laws. Asi o mas pendejo

[@concentratecorner1744]

@Smoke you Out cuh you know that fast and furious is them not stopping people they knew were trafficking guns in a attempt to follow them up the chain? They didnt traffic them themselves but they didnt stop them in a attempt to catch someone higher. The guys who were actually trafficking them and doing the purchasese were arrested and sentenced when the investigation was ended

[@AwokenEntertainment]

seems like a fair trade.. guns for drugs

[@samshepperrd]

When he says there are 65,000 "gun dealerships" in the US, that's the number of Federa Firearms Licenses, not brick and mortar gun stores. Just about anyone that's a legal citizen and not a felon could get one by filling out forms and paying a small fee. The distinction is important. The boulevards of US border towns are not lined with gun stores.

[@lancecahill5486]

Thank you for pointing it out. Many FFL dealers only perform background check and transfer for a fee. They don't buy and sell guns.

[@twofortydrifter]

Yes, FFLs are issued to individuals usually. Wtf is this video talking about?

[@henrylivingstone2971]

@@twofortydrifter It’s just a liberal propaganda machine. If a gun owner is well trained and mentally stable there isn’t a problem. It’s a few bad apples that spoil the bunch. People cite hundreds of shootings but often these people weren’t the people that the firearms were registered to and it’s negatively affects the millions of law abiding gun owners.

[@samshepperrd]

My point is the speaker is just repeating the sensationalization of gun proliferation in the US. Making it sound like red states are entirely populated by firearms worshipping maniacs. It's a trope I hear repeated over and over along with all the other misinformation and ignorance surrounding the subject. And for the record America does need to get a handle of way too many guns going into the hands of criminal drug pushers and terrorists.

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@taiefmiah]

Keep in mind that often the ammo can be tracked down to military surplus

[@Student0Toucher]

Cartels mostly get there guns and ammo from the Mexican military and the Mexican military mostly buys its guns and ammo from USA

[@taiefmiah]

@@Student0Toucher yep, I didn't mean US military surplus. Even in Brazil the intercept conducted an investigation which found that a lot of the casings were from military stock

[@imiss2pac427]

@@dertythegrower you live in a very white alternate universe. M-16 is hard to make and 99% of time made in US

[@AndresGarcia-cq4zi]

Not. Just erase that number.. u clearly don't use guns

[@AndresGarcia-cq4zi]

@@Student0Toucher no seas pendejo. All money n guns are u.s

[@AnjewTate]

The CIA literally drops off crates and crates of weapons. Bout time you guys do some actual journalism. You don't even have to look far!

[@babynirvana6045]

where could I find information like this? I see people say this to that they are directly working with the cartels.

[@dirtedirte8771]

@@babynirvana6045 they’ve been working with cartels as well as the dea since the beginning. This is a known fact in south Texas , matamoros into aguas calientes, Durango and further on .

[@Smartmovesstayingahead]

Facts preach it bro the american gov is always getting the cartel guns

[@Smartmovesstayingahead]

@@alexanderledvina8743 True and so many other operations we don't even know about that the Gov keep's secret

[@babynirvana6045]

@@alexanderledvina8743 Yes it's in the video but that's not the CIA

[@JP2GiannaT]

Bought my handgun at a gun show. Absolutely had a background check. Dude next to me failed his, didn't get to buy a gun that day.

[@libbad7419]

I'm happy with a fully trained protection dog.

[@Alex-co7cq]

You know that’s not all states yeah?

[@eligio7907]

Weird I got mine without out it lol 😆

[@krisrivera3514]

Yeah they do back ground checks and ask for id at gun shows

[@Yamaha350w]

@@krisrivera3514 not all of them not here in az

[@halosword12345]

Next Vice video: Why ISIS uses Toyota Tacomas

[@misc310]

Haha. They actually did that video a few years ago

[@ryleysoftair7635]

Next Vice video : Why Somalians pirates uses boats.

[@garolstipock]

Hilux

[@jouvertalandwa5337]

Toyota hilux*

[@twofortydrifter]

"and as long as there is a War on Terror, the Tacomas will keep on trucking."

[@kgandrala]

the war on drugs is the literal definition of irony

[@marcourzuasanchez-bj2zt]

​ @andrewe6839 soy el gangas marco de valle de los moninos tesistan zapopan que me quemo dina la precidenta necsito que alguien me ayude x mi patron cachorro zalazar de la empresa mas grande del mundo daniel el pleve zalazar luis zalazar daniel que logre de que no se divociara su esposa belen del hermano carlos amecua flores jefe de los policias fiscalia guardia nacional militares necesito que alguien me ayude ya me arte de que diario me hagan burlin ni saco para comer ñlavo carro vivo en la calle con mi hijo de 18 años con toda la gemnte el gangas calle zapopan licoderia yony primaria secundaria con niños gente mayor que me hakean mis platicas que escrisbo x intenet a los celulares de la gente x eso saben de mi que pido ayuda ellos se meten en mi platica la que dice cosas de mi la señora que ponia a vender ropa en el monino una morena que una ves le dijo ami hijo que no queria que se guntara con ella esa señora

[@TheMexRAGE]

the fact that the most popular cartel firearm is now the m60, make me think they even have deals with the gun manofacturers from US themselves, probably the military industrial complex is also directly involved

[@TheRealEMURSE]

You got it

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@ckkiockkio1148]

I wonder how regulated and monitored the gun manufacturers are. Inventory and parts.

[@alexanderledvina8743]

duh. Google operation fast and furious. Also do some research from actual Mexican sources and not this propaganda. They steal them from the Mexican military and police who are corrupt or beaten in a gun fight. The Zetas cartel was literally started by and still ran by the Mexican equivalent of Navy SEALS who got CIA training and equipment. They took all the equipment and brought it into their cartel operation. They literally train recruits in military tactics.

[@kswissmc9778]

The last sentence exactly regulate and decriminalize all drugs and tax each drug individually depending on how much it affects the health care system. They already did it with alcohol and cigarettes.

[@DeletedDeleter]

I would agree for the most part but if we regulate and tax the drugs that's just making another big pharma situation. I would say for regulation just make it were they would have to tell us the effects of it but definitely anyone should be aloud to tell drugs.

[@jamesmurphy9105]

That make to much common sense !

[@tz8785]

@Randomerz Poor countries can afford the war on (some) drugs even less.

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

Portugal completely decriminalized drugs and has seen HUGE positive benefits in their communities as a result.

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

@Randomerz You've obviously never done any deep research into this otherwise you would know it costs WAY less in every way to take this approach.

[@apraew20]

"This is the Wild West, man. It all goes through here now. Drugs come in, guns go out." - Oscar Guzman, GTA V

[@clipsedrag13]

Well they arent gonna use Chinese guns now are they Vice?

[@anti1training]

@Viper vibe Oh gosh no

[@BonShula]

It is a lot easier to get american guns as demonstrated in the video

[@BonShula]

@@mynameislinkkeepingreal4413 The guns still comes from USA. And it is not the state of China that gives them money it is Chinese brokers. Maybe you think that all Chinese works with the state. The state of US has med it so it is very easy to obtain guns.

[@IDKwhattowrite3]

They alredy do that in fact most cartel guns came from countries like Pakistán

[@yodaddy6586]

Because America create conflicts in countries aka democracy in order to take resources. White movie with Nicolas Cage called war something. No wonder Nicholas cage career lost his career.

[@BerryBlondaewithADHD]

"Just point it the ground" cowboy hat dude was bout to shoot his own eye out.

[@eifelitorn]

that was Shane Smith, the founder of Vice 😄

[@giantasparagus]

and surprise surprise its the creator of Vice..

[@JungleLeeLewis]

That's the Co-Founder/Head of Vice. Does it Surprise You they take an Anti Gun stance? When They don't even know the basics of Gun Safety?

[@jokimitri7523]

You have to be really delusional to think those guns had any ammo in them and that the guy was risking to shoot himself

[@Karkat]

@@jokimitri7523 you always treat guns as if they were loaded and ready to fire 😂

[@raysmith6829]

It is extremely difficult to make a semi-automatic AR-15 in the United States into a automatic AR-15. This reporter just has no idea what he's talking about

[@alexanderledvina8743]

yup thank you. big differences in the design and parts

[@Ecstasy-ry3jl]

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Just search " semi-auto AR-15 full-auto conversion", and you'll get explosive amount of information on google, even videos on youtube. Most of them mentioned that it is illegal and won't be easy do so for random guy. But those who would try to convert them are cartels, with resources to make it happen with ease. Do some work before you trash talk.

[@alexanderledvina8743]

@@Ecstasy-ry3jl you'll find a bunch ferry rigged nonsense and people using their belt loop to bump fire or videos of bump fire, not full auto. There are zero videos on KZbin converting semi to full because it requires a lot of machinery and specific parts that aren't a in the AR15 you're talking to someone who builds guns 🙃

[@raysmith6829]

@@alexanderledvina8743 actually I do know what I'm talking about a lot better than you probably do

[@alexanderledvina8743]

@@raysmith6829 you tagged the wrong person I literally said thank u in my first comment

[@thomasr3805]

The paper records…. My jaw dropped.

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@klayman2]

Thats also partly due to the heavy support of the NRA making it illegal to keep that info on a computer database under the guise of it "securing your info"

[@Leveezy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3fTm4pnms6Vjas

[@elliott4299]

Well they did botch an operation to track firearms and a raid that killed some kids, so I wouldn't put it past them to have paper records

[@theuberman7170]

it was kinda funny though 😂.

[@cland49lsu1]

2:22, probably the best view of a range violation. Literally pointing a gun towards the camera

[@hamzaakbari427]

"In a war that makes Baghdad and Kabul seem tame" Bullshit

[@onwilson2]

I agree.Pure bullshit

[@theuberman7170]

200k+ dead

[@hamzaakbari427]

@@theuberman7170 Iraq had 500 k die from sanctions and disease alone. Afganistan had 500k up to 2 million in the soviet war, then another million and then a war with 50k up to 250k. Don't come with that bullshit

[@no898]

They don't know that Afghanistan is literally burning rn

[@alexznassau5521]

Yeah tell that to the marines and soldiers that fought and died there. Vice has no idea what they’re saying on that.

[@elveheim]

Ioan Grillos last book Blood, Gun, Money was about this. Great book, recommended a lot.

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@elveheim]

@@user-fy4yx2lr3p Already got a lot of bitcoins, so I’m okay.

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

@Elveheim This not about having enough coin but making profit with your coin on daily bases...give it a try and thank me later

[@elveheim]

@@user-fy4yx2lr3p I got enough money, don’t be a slave to profit. Go out and smell the roses and enjoy the free things in life.

[@StevenPGonzalez626]

The ATF should just change their name to "F" since that's all they really even worry about

[@brooklynbest123]

Well think about when they were founded. Back in the day there wasn't a war on drugs... there was a war on alcohol and tobacco

[@tianxiu]

or this: AnTi-Firearm. That is all them.

[@chimkinNuggz]

Wel nobody is really making illegal bootleg alcohol anymore. Same with tabaco

[@jbmoneytr4479]

@@chimkinNuggz fucking moonshine is bootleg alcohol

[@SpaceRanger187]

@@jbmoneytr4479 must suck where ever he lives

[@rande2121]

Ask Eric Holder on why he thought it would be a great idea to send firearms to one specific cartel.

[@ericktellez7632]

Better yet, ask Obama.

[@Susieq26754]

Ask Mitt Romney

[@abebrapscalli]

Well I guess I'm going to the cartel to get my ammunition

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

** 𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@lsd-rickb-1728]

@@user-fy4yx2lr3p this guy is a scam

[@xzxmemoxzx]

You’d still be supporting the US

[@elliott4299]

Bet they don't have a shortage

[@ItsTheGhettoFRESH]

That was the shortest "Warning, this contains graphic content" I've ever seen lmao.

[@ucnhtmenow1]

I'm glad I work in fun manufacturing. Employee pricing is $800 for a "turn key" AR..

[@BM-wc6bt]

Yeah and the government has NOTHING to do with supplying guns to the Cartels….oh wait…and that’s just the one case we know of. Also the ATF can run a trace on a gun serial number, it takes a while (the paper records are not a fast look up method) but it is by no means illegal to trace a firearm, it’s used everyday by law enforcement otherwise what’s the purpose of having the serial number?

[@jamesbrooks3664]

Not if it doesn't have a serial number lol

[@BM-wc6bt]

@@jamesbrooks3664 that’s not what I was referring to 9:25 he said the ATF can’t run a trace on a gun because it’s illegal.

[@BM-wc6bt]

@@jamesbrooks3664 obviously if it’s a home manufactured gun or had the serial number removed that makes running a trace not usable. But the idea that it’s “illegal” to run a trace on a serial number is simply false, if the gun has one of course.

[@romanmax8561]

With billions of dollars cartels wouldn't have a problem getting guns if they are banned.

[@BM-wc6bt]

@@romanmax8561 exactly! Just like any other criminal or person out to do harm, they will find a way.

[@marklynch1305]

They really don’t know what they are talking about saying the single shot sniper was an anti aircraft gun and the m1919 could just shoot through armored cars

[@mcd3424]

Err a 50. Can take down a aircraft especially helicopters if hit properly. Also reloading doesn’t take that long. Ammunition type also matters. The m1919 could certainly destroy an armored cars windows with enough lead. Do you know what your talking about?

[@jamakasis18]

If you know what you're talking about you should know you can take down a helicopter with a .50 cal and you should know that "armored vehicle" can mean a lot of different things.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

Mark Lynch can I get a "no such thing as assault weapons" please?

[@c-valueenigma4977]

what makes you think an m1919 can not shoot thru armored cars? oan M1919 would OBLITERATE any small arms classified AV with ease and that is basically most armored cars in existence

[@marklynch1305]

@@mcd3424 Err please be realistic of course even 308 can take down a Helicopter with a proper shot I’m saying he makes it sound like the m1919 is used only for that and the single shot is used solely for AA if anything it wouldbe the other way around and yes they are the same caliber but keyword is single shot that makes no sense to say it’s used for AA your talking about the cartel they spray everything they aren’t taking single shots even at helicopters that wouldn’t make any sense.

[@onebluguy2692]

Private transfer of a firearm IS NOT a loophole. No, we are not changing it.

[@breadman32398]

We need to end the war on guns. The country was a lot safer back when you could order a full auto Thompson from the Sears Roebuck catalog.

[@deuscoromat742]

Texas just removed the ban on suppressors. That's a win. Make every state a 2A sanctuary state.

[@elboscohieronymusbosch370]

You still gonna have School shootings so....

[@rustyshacklferd535]

I love my thompson .22 variant, such a fun gun to shoot.

[@rustyshacklferd535]

@@elboscohieronymusbosch370 still going to have 500,000 to 3,000,000 lives saved with a gun every year.

[@deuscoromat742]

@@elboscohieronymusbosch370 Mexico is that worthless country that should be annexed and whored out for resorts. Let's stop the War on Drugs by starting a war on Mexico. Change my mind.

[@Mr.Rogers91]

So we're going to forget about Fast & Furious and just say they get the guns from gun stores? Cmon man that's just moronic.

[@taiefmiah]

If fast and furious is your source, you need to look at actual evidence

[@stevemasterson7776]

@@taiefmiah lolol there wasn't actual evidence from fast and furious?!?!

[@taiefmiah]

@@stevemasterson7776 nvm me being an idiot and not realising it wasn't the franchise. Although. The straw buying is exactly what those feds were trying to look at and what this video is talking about.

[@stevemasterson7776]

@@taiefmiah no problem. Yeah thats what the feds said they were doing.. not sure I believe them... they had no way to even track the guns

[@taiefmiah]

@@JustSumGuy01 I didn't realise this is what it referred to. Sounds similar to an Iran-Contra affair style thing with the government not even investigating itself, because why would they.

[@jamesftwyaheardme1445]

Basically said, “don’t blame this power-hungry corrupt organization, blame that power-hungry corrupt organization.”

[@toms1313]

Basically said "the poor people are massacring each other while the rich get richer from their murders"

[@Gottrolledbythebest485]

I like how they know nothing about background checks

[@mnkpop5858]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGOYfamHedmnqc0...

[@coolerrocket]

Not all states have background checks, watch the whole video

[@henrylivingstone2971]

Meh Mexico is like the purge except it’s 24/7 and 365 days a year

[@PoopstainMcClain]

Or trafficking laws, or the fact that the "sniper rifle" was actually an anti personnel gun, and that Mexico letting the cartels get away with terrorizing their country is the problem...not an inanimate object, the gun!

[@neoleo593]

@@coolerrocket they do tho

[@matthewhaleygamble1357]

This wasn’t about cartels this was about American gun laws.

[@_Rammstein]

Smh you must have been dropped as a baby..multiple times🤦‍♂️that's the damn point!!! AMERICA IS THE REASON CARTELS ARE THRIVING!!!!!!

[@mnkpop5858]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGOYfamHedmnqc0...

[@alexanderledvina8743]

@@_Rammstein America and the rest of the world who consumes their products 🙃 You think they don't buy cocaine in Europe? 😂 As for the guns, the vast majority of the ones you see in the cartel battles are full auto machine guns which haven't been legal to make for private sale for almost 40 years. These are stolen from the Mexican military and sold to them by ATF/CIA agents in "tracking systems". Like where you think the Russian mobsters or mobsters in any other country in the world that isn't America gets their guns when it's not legal in their country? 🤡 They have insiders at the factories and the military steal the equipment for them. Point me at the store selling a brand new full auto M60 🧐

[@joshuaedwards3322]

Didn't we literally trip over this operation when Obomber was President?

[@scholarwork6060]

Operation Fast and Furious was dealing guns, manufactured crisis

[@G.Sharb1]

4:03 “ More gun stores than mcdonalds, starbucks and supermarkets combined” Bullshit.

[@vickymc9695]

Nar it's true.

[@OnPointFirearms]

I find it hard to believe. Looked it up 38k supermarkets, 8k Starbucks and 14k McDonald's.

[@pukey_posts8154]

Are they talking FFL holders?

[@lifewithmarleyandjon4616]

Exactly

[@nicg9599]

@@vickymc9695 nar it's not

[@tashgodoffools]

Just like the war on drugs the war on guns is long lost... They just haven't realized it yet... 3d printer go brrr

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

[W]-[H]-[A]-[T]-[S]-[A]-[P]-[P]-DIRECTLY (+1)-(3)-(3)-(7)-(7)-(8)-(0)-(8)-(4)-(4)-(2)

[@HalseyHFW]

War on guns? Who fought against the gun industry?

[@tashgodoffools]

@@HalseyHFW Biden is right now...

[@tashgodoffools]

@@HalseyHFW Who fought against the big pharma drug companies pushing opiates?

[@professional_cynic98]

There’s Belgian, German, American and Russian weapons with a few British made snipers, let’s not solely blame the US

[@XavierbTM1221]

70% come from the US tho 😘

[@alieng9989]

They also got Israeli, Czech, Yugoslavian, and Chines weapons too.

[@ericktellez7632]

The vast majority ARE US made though

[@toddpickens]

Regarding straw purchase and your comment about lying on the form not being prosecuted. I'd like to see some actual data on that, as opposed to gross generalizations. I am not saying that your characterization is wrong, but gross generalizations are how political and social views are manipulated through social media. Hard solid data doesn't lie.

[@Codename46]

Me: "I'd like some actual data" Vice: "We don't do that here"

[@ryxarchive6713]

@Omar20v it’s media. they pick and choose to fit whatever narrative it may be

[@34monkeygrits]

I agree its irresponsible to generalize like that as a news agency especially when the hard data is obviously available.

[@AndresGarcia-cq4zi]

Come to Mexico we will explain. 🇲🇽🌵💀

[@babachloe7140]

Okay anonymous person on the www. If I attempted to lie on a firearms form where I come from, I'd get the full illegal firearms treatment, something about lying to govt officers and end up with 15yrs. So just admit that firearms laws are pretty lax in the US... Yes including California and NY

[@SeidenFisk]

Good reporting as always (love the war on drugs series) but hearing journalists talk about .50 BMG always cracks me up. Make it sound like it's a caliber forged by god himself.

[@Fireclaws10]

I mean it’ll blow off limbs and reduce entire humans to pink mist. It may as well be forged by a god.

[@SpoonBoy]

@Viper vibe when did the say the want to legalize drugs also nowhere in the video did the they say to ban guns they are just talking about how easy it is to get them

[@stillperfectgenerations5852]

@@SpoonBoy If you are still unable to see the push to take guns from Americans, even the ones legally allowed by the Constitution, then you simply aren't paying attention, my friend! A bit naïve, I'd say...

[@Mussi93]

@@stillperfectgenerations5852 Well, gun laws should be stricter. It's common sense, really.

[@TheDudeAbides1776]

@@SpoonBoy All this dudes videos in the The War On Drugs series is about legalizing drugs. Go back and watch the other vids homie.

[@nfareview]

EHHHHH WRONG: STOP WITH THE GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE! THERE ISN'T ONE! A gun show is nothing more than a weekend market of all the local gun shops that paid for a booth space at a convention center. A buyer STILL has to complete a 4473 and pass a background check to purchase a firearm. Gun shows help prospective buyers handle (fit hand size) , window shop, and compare prices with all their local dealers in one stop. The irony that McDonalds was used against the gun shop location count when diabetes and heart disease deaths make homicides by firearm look like childs play. Edited to ad: The undercover buy of a no background check at a gun show shown in this video was a private seller booth. Private sellers can also rent booths at gun shows like actual FFL dealers do. Private sellers in most states are not required to perform a background check. And states that passed recent laws requiring it, do not provide a way for citizens to even check. Often times "private sellers" booths at gun shows are undercovers looking to bust felons. Most criminals buy hot guns that were stolen and don't risk gun shows. Gun shows are for window shopping, over priced parking, Chinese shitty holsters, and dry ass beef jerky. In other words, gun shows suck and once you go once or twice you never go back.

[@saabdawg]

The private sales is part of the problem but not the only one. I went to my local FFL on my father’s behalf to get quotes for selling a few firearms. They were willing to buy the guns even though they weren’t mine. All they do is call the local LE agency to find out if they have been reported stolen. If a criminal steals a gun and they can sell it to an FFL if they’re fast enough. I own firearms but support better laws.

[@OkagaCalifornia]

Bruh what are you talking about, I've bought all of my guns through private sellers in gun shows 💀

[@jankukura6744]

The more you know, M1919 machine guns apparently can shoot through armored vehicles and very fast. Didnt know a fire rate of around 500 rpm is considered very fast. Thanks VICE, really cool.

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

That's what you got out of this article?

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@E C I never though vice was gun magazine Did you?

[@jjcoola998]

Compared to the semi auto mags people are used to it is , especially for anti personnel use. Most people don’t have Vulcan cannons laying around for sale I suspect

[@juliusstriker4465]

Damn no wonder we have an ammo shortage here!

[@rustyshackelford6834]

Yes, because democrats refuse to secure the border and then blame the problem that they themselves created on our desire to retain our god given rights.

[@291WW]

@@rustyshackelford6834 bro it’s both sides

[@joelortiz8037]

@@rustyshackelford6834 the cartel use planes

[@White000Crow]

Where does the money come from to buy the guns?

[@kiki_de]

09:00 Its not only looking primitive, it is fkn primitive.

[@CoorsLght]

Operation fast and furious , the feds gave the cartels the firepower 🙄

[@tylerdouthit5985]

Mr Obama

[@peter81083]

"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

[@compulsiverambler1352]

In the UK, with the exception of Northern Ireland for obvious reasons, most outlaws can't get guns either, and the ones who do get guns, very rarely hurt innocent people with them. They're mostly used to threaten and kill gang members, by other gang members, and occasionally for grand heists. No British person ever worries about a common burglar entering our home with a gun, or that we'll be mugged or raped at gun point, or that bullets could get involved in a road rage incident or drunken confrontation, or that our child will get hold of one and accidentally shoot their sibling, or that our depressed family members or friends will get hold of one and shoot themselves with a 90% chance of successfully ending their lives. It's so hard to obtain a gun, and criminals are so careful not to get caught with one, that only gangsters and the police have a statistically valid reason to worry about them. So law-abiding civilians don't ask to have guns to defend ourselves, because we know that would mean both criminals and negligent or incompetent gun hobbiests would start posing a greater threat to us with those guns, like they do in the USA.

[@Mike-xg3mi]

Those are military grade full auto weapons, not guns from billy Joe at the gun show

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

so the military is at fault?

[@thewise_1one856]

@@ChickenMcThiccken No, what hes actually insinuating is that the real gun dealers are the ALPHABETS BOYS

[@rodellsiago9796]

@@ChickenMcThiccken yes

[@Sequentialaccount]

@@ChickenMcThiccken they sell their old tools to the highest bidder so yea

[@rl3722]

Yea they are delusional

[@paularcaria]

So, decriminalize drugs. The war is lost.

[@irvingsalas5252]

You’ll never get rid of the cartels tho, they’ll just sell gasoline and avocados 😆

[@renehopkinson5079]

@@irvingsalas5252 they will always find something valuable to make profit

[@SamaelMoneyStein]

What makes you morons think they don't already have their hands in legal markets ? So making drugs legal would stop their reign i don't see how they just won't get caught selling drugs because they won't be illegal anymore it seems like legalization would cause a business boom for the cartels you're all small brained

[@laughingoscar]

Decriminalisation doesn’t mean the drugs are being legally sold just that if you’re in possession you don’t go to jail so cartels would still be there cos people would still want and need to buy the drugs from somewhere

[@Dizzy206]

The problem with making it legal is that you'll have non drug addicts turned into addicts. Then it's all bad regardless.

[@adamnorris9646]

You can't buy a gun online and have it shipped to your doorstep. It has to be shipped to a gun shop where they will do a background check on you

[@elis.1522]

The way that we get people to stop buying things on the black market is to make it simple to get it legally. Vice admits this with drugs, but they act like gun laws need to be strengthened as if that wouldn’t make the black market larger as more people attempt to avoid regulations too strict.

[@teachingclinic2378]

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[@TheCrazyJakeAZ]

Exactly. Easily the most trash video on their War on Drugs series.

[@IllDrowsy]

This title makes me think that these guys don't like guns. Odd

[@sergio-8541]

Idk blonde guy is kinda “sus”

[@robertupson5274]

It’s so tiring to see isn’t it?

[@IllDrowsy]

@@robertupson5274 yeah. They don't even hide the agenda

[@Katya-rc9ee]

I think they’re just bringing awareness to the corruption of mexico and America...

[@MikeFoxtrot1]

Why don't they they just built a wall along the border?

[@Pre.C_King]

Ouf.. That Gun salesman done fked up.. The laws actually states that you need to fill out the background check at gun shows aswell..

[@Enlightened0ne]

but hey 250 > Human lives. Amirite?

[@yourmom1189]

not true, state dependent. generally it only applies to FFL dealers at gun shows. many states allow people to make private sales, but there are still rules to that, like they have to have a state ID (the state youre selling in) and you need to see it before you can sell it. but not many people tend to make private sales to unknown people.

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@grayz1634]

Varies from state to state probably still have to tho

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

And now the ATF is about to get the worst person in charge. Good times are ahead.

[@anti1training]

I don't know why people are having a hard time with this. There's so many things we can do that make sense. But politicians are old and stubborn, so they give the worst ideas

[@JO-uy6zs]

@@anti1training sounds like we need basic gun control like all other first world countries. All of them have nearly ZERO gun crime.. But gun nut cowards prefer 39,000 Americans shot to death per year. How about you get busy fixing it instead of crying about brazil

[@rl3722]

Yea it’s horrible.

[@rl3722]

@@dertythegrower yup I own a Taurus myself. Low cost and actually decent firearm

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

** 𝘛𝘏𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 𝘍𝘖𝘙 𝘠𝘖𝘜𝘙 𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘐 𝘞𝘐𝘓𝘓 𝘈𝘋𝘝𝘐𝘚𝘌 𝘠𝘖𝘜 𝘛𝘖 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘐𝘕𝘛𝘖 𝘊𝘙𝘠𝘗𝘛𝘖𝘊𝘜𝘙𝘙𝘌𝘕𝘊𝘠 𝘐𝘕𝘝𝘌𝘚𝘛𝘔𝘌𝘕𝘛 𝘞𝘐𝘛𝘏 𝘛𝘏𝘌 𝘈𝘐𝘋 𝘖𝘍 𝘔𝘠 𝘛𝘙𝘜𝘚𝘛𝘌𝘋 𝘛𝘙𝘈𝘋𝘌𝘙 𝘖𝘕 𝘞𝘏𝘈𝘛𝘚𝘈𝘗 𝘈𝘕𝘋 𝘔𝘈𝘒𝘌 𝘎𝘖𝘖𝘋 𝘗𝘙𝘖𝘍𝘐𝘛𝘚

[@theoldtoby8407]

A British accent starts talking about guns and the conversation immediately loses all credibility.

[@ddmddmd]

Yet he still talking all the truth. Mexico experienced the most violent era in those days. I was around 17 years old at the time and the moment I knew something was really changing was the time I read a PROCESO magazine and read the story of a whole “Football team” of teenagers being murdered in the north side of the country by an armored group that mistake the address with a rival gang and murdered this kids. It was around when the big cartels fragmented and the horrid violent cartels appeared. Los Zetans and CDJNG. Then the beheadings began. All the groups where “magically” armed overnight and a lot of innocent people get killed everyday.

[@theoldtoby8407]

He may be reporting facts when it comes to the numbers of deaths (no argument here) but the rest is complete driveling nonsense. You want to know who to blame for the violence? The Mexican government for being so pathetically corrupt and the US government for prosecuting the egregiously failed “war on drugs”. Our US freedoms have nothing to do with Mexico’s violence. If anything, it is a lack of freedom and opportunity that fuels this bloody conflict.

[@joseg8000]

There is a law against gun trafficking. Unless the bearer has explicit authorization from the Secretariat of National Defense, it is illegal and punishable by law to enter Mexican territory with any firearm as well as to keep and carry any firearm on your person or vehicle at any time, anywhere.

[@DRob-gq3ki]

I find it surprising that cartels hitmen don’t follow gun laws.

[@JK-tu1xx]

Lets be a little bit more transparent about what you're talking about and not frame it in a way that makes everything sound matter of fact. First, private sales do not require background checks and any "gun show" you see taking place with a municipal approval is going to be regulated with NFA certified sellers where they will require a background check by law. Otherwise it's not really a "gun show" but rather more of a flea market sale. Second, guns posted online are simply listings in which you can pursue a private sale or purchase the firearm online and then have the firearm taken to an NFA certified dealer where they will then mail the firearm to another NFA certified dealer near you and that dealer you go to pick up the firearm from are going to require a background check to be able to take possession of the firearm.

[@tomh2572]

So how do you explain the actual footage of the guy showing up with nothing but a few hundred dollars and walking home with a gun?

[@austinadjutant5684]

I live in New Hampshire, unlicensed sellers are not required to run a background check at gun shows.

[@dare21magine]

AMEN. thanks for taking the time to clear that up for vice!! I was about to say "i go to gun shows literally all over the east coast, and i've never ever been able to buy a gun without a background check and a waiting period.

[@foxtailedcritter]

Vice is anti gun does this surprise anyone? They'll make whatever BS they want from sp0000ky ghost guns 👻 👻 BOO! To 3d guns to "smart guns" (that malfunction and don't work.) To anything else to push Thier crappy agenda. I like vice but when it comes to guns or over pushing BLM BS it has my eyes Rollin'.

[@zuzmaw704]

Ngl its kind of cringy watching someone vice go ‘undercover’ for something thats not criminal, let alone a non issue. A gun is a tool.

[@masonarmand8988]

it was actually hilarious

[@nfrench2100]

The guy in the background @2:15 seems so happy about the homicides committed with those guns lol

[@user-fy4yx2lr3p]

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[@nfrench2100]

@@user-fy4yx2lr3p money. Sent. 😉 Can’t wait to be RICH!!

[@ckkiockkio1148]

Maybe he was excited about the firearms not the killing of people?

[@JuanHernandez-ij9yq]

Can’t believe this manz was told to POINT the GUN down smh

[@therant311]

These are the people who demonize the rights of the American people, instead of holding the governments of the U.S and Mexico responsible for their incompetent shortcomings.

[@nevitt2236]

We should increase border security if there is an issue with smuggling things across the border is such a problem.

[@zakur0hako]

it's all corrupted across the border

[@ewrickruiz2430]

I agree that we should increase border security, so that immigration and drug detection goes by way smoother. Most drugs, guns, money come through legal entries. The wall did nothing

[@ericktellez7632]

Are you guys dumb? The problem is coming FROM the US. Did you not even watch the video at all?

[@nevitt2236]

@@ericktellez7632 yes I did watch. Wouldn't increasing boarder security help stop the flow of unwanted items or people from crossing in either direction? Or are you saying the us government is supplying them with firearms(I realize Obama did this once but besides that one time)

[@SweetJeopardy]

@@nevitt2236 the US government is supplying the weapons. It's been happening since the start of the "war on drugs". We only learned about that one time it happened under Obama cause they got caught, but it's still going on. The drug trade is a multi-billion dollar business of which the US government is absolutely getting its share.

[@summerheatpaintball5334]

Complete bullshit. Straw purchasing is absolutely taken seriously. And I doubt it’s a big source of their guns since I’m constantly seeing G36 rifles that we can’t even get in the US

[@javiervazquez9472]

Problem is, it happens a lot. Even if one store, or even a chain of stores do take it seriously, who is to say everyone is on the same page.

[@anti1training]

Felt this video was kinda sus, giving the fact that arms dealing isn't that simple lol. Gun laws aren't either

[@summerheatpaintball5334]

@DV8 *** well put

[@javiervazquez9472]

@DV8 *** Let's remove the political portion of it, cause this is going to get in the way of the root cause of our conversation. Here is what we do know. 1. Those are American Guns, 2. There is a very high amount of drug trafficking occuring by multiple cartels, 3. They are not in short supply if guns or ammo. You brought up a good point I didnt see before. Yes, they could be brought in from somewhere else, and honestly dont doubt they are, but I also know that it is very easy to get into Mexico without being checked. Getting guns the Legal way is getting more difficult, which is good and bad. I think it keeps guns in the right hands. But where there is disparity, there is corruption. And I believe it is our right as citizens to ensure that our law is up to date to ensure that the corruption never tears our country apart. We dont need our guns taken from us. We need a system that is always up to date. There are hundreds of Millions of people outside of you and I. People you and I know are not fit to carry, much less buy and distribute.

[@javiervazquez9472]

@DV8 *** thank you for your reply. At this point, all of this is speculation without evidence. Maybe Vice should go back in and track where the guns are coming from. Who knows, maybe youre right. Maybe it's still American imported.

[@the2slice]

2:07 thats a bolt action .50 cal rifle. Not an "anti-aircraft"

[@ratagris21]

Just ask Chipman they shotdown 2 helicopters at Waco which is a lie.

[@the2slice]

@Commander Cody true .50 cal MACHINE GUNS are used to shoot down aircraft. Not bolt action rifles. Try shooting a flying object with one then come back to me buddy.

[@edie9158]

vpc.org/graphics/50Helicopters.pdf “The accuracy of the Model 82A1 makes possible the placement of the shot in the most vulnerable area of the target. The compressor sections of jet engines or the transmissions of helicopters are likely targets for the weapon, making it capable of destroying multi-million dollar aircraft with a single hit delivered to a vital area.” -Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc. brochure advertising its Model 82A1 50 caliber sniper rifle “Helicopters among all aviation targets are particularly vulnerable to 50 caliber sniper rifle fire. The U.S. Army, for example, notes that as of 1984 the Afghan Mujahideen resistance fighters ‘were credited with shooting down close to 300 Soviet helicopters using small arms and anti-tank weapons.’ It should be noted that this record was achieved against military helicopters, many of which are armored, and before the United States began supplying the thoroughly effective Stinger ground-to-air missile to the Mujahideen.” “The 50 caliber anti-armor sniper rifle represents a serious threat to helicopters. In fact, the Barrett Internet web site includes a posting of a 1994 article about the company that states that one Barrett model, the M82A2 “bullpup” design, was conceived in 1987, reportedly for use against helicopters in Afghanistan.” The rifle’s design-configured to be fired from the shoulder, as opposed from a prone position -would make it more effective for this purpose.9 Although the M82A2 is no longer in production, Barrett manufactures a similar bullpup model, the M95. The company’s Internet web site description of the model M95 includes a downloadable video in which a shooter demonstrates rapidly firing the Model 90, an earlier version of the current Model 95, from the shoulder.” Major John L. Plaster-a leading sniping expert-directly addressed the vulnerability of helicopters to sniper fire in his text on sniping techniques and equipment, The Ultimate Sniper: An Advanced Training Manual for Military & Police Snipers. “A military sniper employs armor piercing bullets when engaging helicopters and other thin-skinned materiel targets.”

[@the2slice]

@@edie9158 Again, the rifle shown in the video was a bolt action rifle. Nearly useless for all but stationary aircraft on the runway, which I'd eager many of these 300 mujahideen attacks were. Afghanistan is naturally mountainous and therefore conducive to such tactics. That bolt action .50 shown in the video is likely only used against personnel.

[@DiogenesOfCa]

@@the2slice I saw Mark Walberg do it in "Shooter".

[@williamgalindo2217]

So because American citizens have civilian grade weapons, cartels get military grade weapons?? It's hard to make the connection for me.

[@billytaglis3586]

There were so many inaccuracies in this video that it's frightening... Vice did not do it's homework on this at all.

[@emersonpeck8135]

2:20 what cowboy doesn't know how to use guns or use them safely lmao

[@drram9876]

Vice is back baby!

[@tdg710]

>Mexicos Federal Police fight 7 gunmen from a drug cartel HAH, that's a good one Vice. Let me fix that for you: >Other cartel members dressed as Federale's are raiding a rival cartel

[@rl3722]

America has no federal law against gun trafficking? Buyers aren’t required to have background check at gun shows? I don’t know what gun show you’re going to. This piece is so false it’s not even funny.

[@Z_BoyPanduh]

At that point it just be a criminal selling a gun to another criminal. Depending which state it was bought in.

[@XavierbTM1221]

Actually they are correct www.politifact.com/article/2016/jan/07/politifact-sheet-3-things-know-about-gun-show-loop/

[@CarlosAlarcon2012]

7:21 "My God given right to bare arms" I'm pretty sure it wasn't God but okay. Lmao 🤣

[@bigxjon91]

There definitely laws against gun trafficking...folks go to jail for crossing state lines with guns all the time.

[@evoxcain]

Chicago is like that and that's without cartels.

[@neri1443]

Not as many as cartels

[@zakur0hako]

used to drive a cab in 2010-2013 was offered to buy a gun countless times

[@Tyborg425]

More gun control more gun issues.

[@martyg5156]

Operation Fast & Furious???

[@Andrew-ob5ij]

Watch the whole video wtf

[@HokiePitcher22]

I feel like we didn't really need a 13 minute video to answer the question "why mex cartels use american guns." That said, I still watched it.🤷‍♂️

[@djcoopes7569]

If mexico made guns completely legal there, then they wouldn't have to get them from the USA

[@polishherowitoldpilecki5521]

When we talk about gun control, we often talk about preventing mass shootings, suicide or gang violence. Never about the war next door, who’s death count has surpassed 150,000 dead.

[@geediosman6415]

Well more then 150 k. The Last three years saw over 110 k homicides in mexico

[@jakesoros2376]

Thank God Mexico's citizens can acquire guns from America to fight the corruption of their government and the evil of the cartels. That's the power of the 2nd Amendment, and the real question, is how can we get Mexican citizens even more guns?

[@GamezJP]

Drugbiz HQ (Sinaloa) Resident here. Guns are NOT the problem, the origin of guns is NOT the problem, the problem is they are revered around here and all the heinous acts the perform are accepted by the society at large, and our “elected” officials. Which is a sociocultural problem.

[@huahin6149]

You know what will solve this problem . Border enforcement from Mexican side and American side.

[@bryananderson3772]

Gun shows require background checks to buy guns. It's federal law. Buying online also requires a background. Only buying a gun from a private citizen doesn't require a background check. You can sell your private property to another citizen. Gun or otherwise

[@funnyyylock]

Whole lot of foreigners talking about Guns they know nothing about.

[@funnyyylock]

@Chris Not what I said. Take it at face value if you want but you'd know what I meant if you actually watched the video.

[@Elitecommando501]

All the foreigners probably never even shot or seen a gun lol

[@spookyskelly5276]

Shane Smith's handling of those guns show you how much he knows about them lol.

[@Daggz90]

Glad to see Ioan Grillo being interviewed here - He has done excellent work in his journalism in South and Latin America. Listen to him on Joe Rogan Experience, great episode.

[@marcourzuasanchez-bj2zt]

​ @andrewe6839 soy el gangas marco de valle de los moninos tesistan zapopan que me quemo dina la precidenta necsito que alguien me ayude x mi patron cachorro zalazar de la empresa mas grande del mundo daniel el pleve zalazar luis zalazar daniel que logre de que no se divociara su esposa belen del hermano carlos amecua flores jefe de los policias fiscalia guardia nacional militares necesito que alguien me ayude ya me arte de que diario me hagan burlin ni saco para comer ñlavo carro vivo en la calle con mi hijo de 18 años con toda la gemnte el gangas calle zapopan licoderia yony primaria secundaria con niños gente mayor que me hakean mis platicas que escrisbo x intenet a los celulares de la gente x eso saben de mi que pido ayuda ellos se meten en mi platica la que dice cosas de mi la señora que ponia a vender ropa en el monino una morena que una ves le dijo ami hijo que no queria que se guntara con ella esa señora

[@flippatheshippa]

Wow really learning about how this whole operation works is just mind blowing words can’t even describe it, it’s like every person has some sort of contribution to this whole thing that just compounds more and more over time

[@johnfrench5741]

I like how in all these videos of these criminals getting away with things like this and our government supporting it everybody knows seemingly but does nothing about it.

[@joshuaedwards3322]

They tried on January 6th... Didn't work out to well for them tho.

[@goji508]

The Alex Jones clip was priceless.

[@akis9252]

We're all living in Amerika Coca-Cola, Wonderbra We're all living in Amerika Amerika, Amerika.

[@happylittlesynth]

America's gun "policies" are such a joke ...Odd how people seem to think more regulation = not able to own a gun. Why do they think this?

[@thuranz2773]

Living in a propaganda bubble combined with a lack of interest in what's outside the propaganda bubble.

[@xxMrAfroNinjaxx]

Nice try, “Shall not be Infringed” Fed Boy!

[@aaronkeener95]

Operation fast and furious also introduced the cartel to the FN 5.7 pistol with the right military ammo for that pistol was provided by the government. That is now used by the cartel guards. Along with signal jammers.

[@NThabethe]

Those private sales are kinda risky since you don't know if that firearm has been used in a crime and you have no proof of purchase to protect yourself in case it has.

[@anti1training]

Cartels get their guns from the Mexican military and the Mexican Military buys guns from the U.S. We sell guns, what's your point? And those gun show gun merchants, just committed a felony.

[@comradepolarbear6920]

That would make sense if the mexican cartels weren't rolling around with ak's and ar 15's. That's suspicious.

[@anti1training]

@@comradepolarbear6920 It still makes sense. America makes and sells guns. Countries buy from us. What they gonna buy, Chinese? Quality for Chinese firearms aren't as good. The Mexican cartel will take what they want. Ak's and AR-15s are still guns. Don't know what you found suspicious about that.

[@juliosanchez5210]

Cartels get guns that not even the Mexican military has also there has been cases were people we're arrested because they sold gund to the cartel at the border so ite thr Usa

[@chadwick8193]

HK was in some hot water earlier this year or last year for selling guns illegally to the Mexican government.

[@opstorm333]

I love when anglos tell Americans how to run our country.

[@onwilson2]

The Mexicans should allowed their citizens to have guns. Give people the oppertunity to defend themselves.

[@AlexGreen1991]

2:22 lol, never handled a gun before :D

[@Brendissimo1]

This hidden cam footage is hilarious because the private seller loophole is perfectly legal. It's a huge issue, but nothing you've recorded these people doing is illegal. Hell, I bet a lot of them would have agreed to an interview.

[@maximeredfern7609]

It wasn't supposed to show the legality of it, simply how easy it is to do. As someone who doesn't live in the Americas, it seems insane and honestly kind of frightening that you can buy a gun with that much ease.

[@EnragedEagle]

@@maximeredfern7609 It's definitely insane, but it's also because in most countries if you want a gun it's different. Most countries don't have a gun culture beyond hunting long guns, if even that is allowed. The only country comparable I can think of is Australia and Canada.

[@maximeredfern7609]

@@EnragedEagle In many countries you can access weapons but the regulations on who and how easy it is are much tighter. For example, Finland has a 32% ownership, but most of these are weapons kept after military service. Those who have guns are well trained in handling and the dangers, strict licences need to be kept, they have phycological assessments and open carry is not permitted. What astounds me about the US, as they show in the video, is the ease of access/lack of laws just because "freedom".

[@DRob-gq3ki]

Its not a loophole you are allowed to sell yours old guns just like your allowed to sell your old refrigerator.

[@Brendissimo1]

@@DRob-gq3ki 1) look up the definition of the word "loophole." The fact that private sales of firearms don't require background checks is a textbook loophole. 2) I never said you aren't allowed to resell your old guns, nor did I say that you shouldn't be allowed to. People who advocate closing the loophole aren't talking about ending private gun sales altogether, but about implementing a background check system for them.

[@itsforkeeps3845]

The guns don’t kill the people who use them do