Why Michael Jordan HATED Jerry Krause

A look back at the feud between Michael Jordan, and the Chicago Bulls general manager, Jerry Krause.
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[@MarekPar743]

Krause is what you get when you max out all statistics except Communication skills and charisma. Its insane how much he accomplished while being in beef with literally everybody.

[@Younis1446]

He was a great GM and was big reason why Bulls won 6... Seeing this videos makes it clearer to me than that Jordan was fortunate to win 6 titles... Bcoz had he had a GM that followed what Jordan wanted thing Bulls would have not won so many titles! By the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel might interest some people!

[@ZooterMagruder]

​@@Younis1446 But it also shows the greatness of Jordan as well. He stuck with it and just went out and played instead of asking for trade or sitting out games like every stars do nowadays.

[@cravenlevay8761]

Call $ + Luck and Connections. Like drafting MJ was a no brainer hahaha

[@cjjacks33]

@@ZooterMagruderfacts, the fact that they continued to win with such a toxic organization. Same toxicity happened in the the Thibs era with GarPax. Both times, the GM came out looking worse after trying to prove a point. Bulls organization is only a big brand because of MJ and the dynasty.

[@onlyone23km]

Reinsdorf even said it in The Last Dance. He hired Krause because he wanted to win, not because he wanted to be popular.

[@zeno8655]

Jordan has probably gained a lot more admiration for Krause after being a horrible owner for the Hornets. He was used to having a great GM make decisions lol

[@IsaacMiller-bd8hg]

Facts

[@WhyDnaNews]

That’s crazy bro kd is great 2x scoring champ mvp I mean stats don’t lie

[@GABEMOORE533]

🗣️RIGHT👍 AND N🚫 SUPERSTAR WANTS TO PLAY ⏯️ IN CHARLOTTE EITHER . TELL THE WHOLE STORY .>🎤 🏀🗑️

[@Bigedub101]

​@@GABEMOORE533stay off MJ meat, He couldn't even draft or put decent team together even with him being the "GOAT"

[@HOF_Instigator]

@@WhyDnaNewsI think you commented on the wrong video

[@ChiSportsNut18]

Krause was an ungodly good GM and I can see how being bullied all the time like that would make somebody bitter. I'm glad some people are giving him a fair shake.

[@kevinmuckian5663]

As a fan of sports, please don't let Uncle Jerry [SEE McMillions] Reinsdorf off the hook

[@ZDiddy7777]

Please....... without Jordan, all Krause woulda built were teams capable of making the playoffs as a high seed.... and thats being KIND considering the mess he "built" post '98. THAT showed what he really was as a GM

[@ChiSportsNut18]

@@ZDiddy7777 Wasn't Jordan being bounced out of the first round until 1991? IT wasn't until Krause got Pippin that Jordan was able to win. And it was so much more Pippin. Yes Jordan did the work on the court but he got nowhere without Krause's scouting and would've been Carmelo Anthony without Krause's work behind the scenes.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

​@ChiSportsNut18 they were bounced out 3 times. Scottie and Horace came in 87 but didn't start. That was the year they made it past the 1st round

[@Kushenable]

he was one of the best if not the best gm in history... but... (big but) jordan and jackson shold have tried for a 4 peat in 1999... like michael said... until they loose

[@fobinc]

I'm glad Jordan finally understands how hard it is to win championships after owning the hornets. It takes an entire organization to win.

[@fobinc]

@@beery6659 well he was part of the success. You can't say all it takes is players right? The owner has to approve trades/drafts, team doctors need to take care of players, dieticians need to take care of their meals etc.

[@jerrypastrana8176]

​@@fobincIt's still entirely up to the Coaching staff and the players to make it work, regardless of how much talent the GM recruits. It's the players that win the games, not the organization.

[@fobinc]

@@jerrypastrana8176 Considering Lakers, Chicago, Detroit in the 80s, Celtics and recently Warriors with Jerry West followed by Meyers at the helm, I have to respectfully disagree. You need organization as a whole to win, not just players.

[@FilthyMcNasty69]

​@beery6659 they didn't even show him basic respect and trash talked him constantly. Fym? Dude was a huge part of their success.

[@fobinc]

@beery6659 that's ignoring everything from 87 to 98. You get older and burnt out. I'm just pointing out that for some people they crap on front office/coach for failures, but not give them credit for success along with players.

[@roba165]

Even though I'm a die hard MJ fan, I still can't deny the importance of Jerry Krause as General Manager. I think everybody misunderstood Jerry when he said "organizations win and not the players". I think what he wanted to say is that organizations as a whole win trophy's and players are part of the organization. Its like a chain, if you take one peace it won't hold anymore.

[@clauzelmoutima6490]

Fr this is true

[@junglekutz5625]

I mean he is right, because it takes particulars.....a well put together recipe of sorts...... to produce excellence. Whether it's a group of people or ingredients for whatever tasty meal. I'm not too sure what went down between them, but the reality of certain things will always be what it is. The manager played a role, Phil Jackson played a role and every player (in due time) played a position that produced what the Bulls produced.

[@josephlee5654]

He was basically the Jordan of GMs

[@dmjdebruin]

Jerry was one of the best scouts, if not the best. A GM is more then only picking up raw talent. If you know to make your best star hate you and you fire your best coach that both gave you the 6s titles and want to prove yourself that bad that you can do it again.. And then fail hard, you are not one of the greatest GM's

[@allclassallthetime4739]

still fishy as hell that they just let them all go in '98. That never made one deal of sense. I even remember when they invited up Krause to hold the trophy, the fans booed him without mercy. He must've hated out that much having to go through that again when it could have extended the dynasty window by two more years.

[@llydrsn]

The Pippen contract was also partly Pippen's fault. He was warned not to sign early, but chose to knowing that a potential spike in player salaries is coming up.

[@MrOctober44]

Of course it was. He was a grown man. He wanted guaranteed money. It's ridiculous. If he got injured or just played bad he'd still get every cent. Yet if he overachieves he deserves more? Basically he wins no matter what?

[@luigivincenz3843]

no one put a knife to Pip's throat. That was all on him. He had an agent, he has a brain, I think, and an adult.

[@Romans8-9]

Not only that, what rubbed me the wrong way about TLD is that they claimed Krause was the reason Pippen would not get a raise but Reinsdorf was the owner and had the final say, he could have easily bumped up Pippen's contract but they never bring this up. Jordan could have even taken a paycut too but none of this is brought up.

[@dariog36th]

Both Reinsdorf and Krause told him to wait after the collective bargaining agreement when the salary cap was going to go up. Scottie was impatient and Reinsdorf guaranteed him the money but he warned Pippen that he better not hear a word about it after. Pippen sure enough couldn’t wait a year before bad mouthing Krause and his contract.

[@KNByam]

I wouldn't have gave him a raise either. The owner told him not to sign it.

[@TheRedSphinx]

The issue with Pippen's contract was a Reinsdorf thing, not Krause. Actually, Reinsdorf, Krause, and Pippen's own agents told him not to take the long term deal, but he signed anyway. Krause told Pippen that Reinsdorf would not restructure the contract down the line and that it was pointless for Pippen to come back and ask for more money. Reinsdorf was true to his word, and that's why Pippen's wildcat strike failed.

[@kamilmusalat]

This is what Barkley meant when he said everyone is kissing Jordan’s ass, everyone agreeing with him and not liking when someone tells the truth right in his face and now him and Barkley are no longer friends …. Kinda makes all sense

[@angelo92863]

Can you do "How good is Kevin Durant Actually" ?

[@aceloto9603]

Yessss

[@WhyDnaNews]

Pls that’s great idea

[@daveczarnik6017]

He isn’t good though. He just latches on to star players

[@Jebejrkej]

@@daveczarnik6017yeah right

[@christianr1941]

@@daveczarnik6017🤦‍♂️🤡

[@mrsmith1938]

It feels like MJ has trash talked everyone

[@jordanhutton5787]

Krause was great but he bombed badly in the '86 and '89 drafts. '89 in particular when he passed over Nick Anderson and Tim Hardaway (both Chicago natives) along with Shawn Kemp for Stacy King. Imagine that squad

[@flyingiguana409]

stacy king brings the hot sauce tho

[@joeldriver-sp2rg]

Stacy King was a very solid pro and played a big role in helping them win championships. He was VERY highly regarded coming out of Oklahoma. Yeah Kemp was better but it's not like King was a bad pick.

[@rrichmond14]

​@@flyingiguana409lmao. End of story

[@SeanPowell-p4v]

The squad would have never worked out in the end. Why? Well, there’s one basketball and a guy with the initials M.J. wanted it all the time!! Granted, he was nearly unstoppable at times with the ball, but one man can’t beat five average, unselfish, well-coached players. It took Jordan a while to figure that out, but when he did the Bulls started racking up titles! I’m a Celtics fan, but you’ve got to give the credit and respect when it’s deserved and those 90’s Bulls teams were great.

[@MikeBrownLegend]

In fairness, Krause was able to correct that mistake by trading Stacey King to Minnesota for Luc Longley straight up. And then when Longley's ability made starter Will Purdue obsolete, Krause was able to trade Purdue for Rodman

[@deeperroot]

There is no doubt that Krause was very successful during those years, picking solid pieces to build the team. But you also can't deny that in after Jordan era, Krause wasn't really successful.

[@cadillacmonte]

If you’re getting ready for work right now, you’re probably not Bill Collin’s… That’s so savage lmao

[@jp3813]

Alternate title: "Why Jerry Krause was right and everybody against him was wrong."

[@PokemonTrainerVince]

He was wrong for breaking up a dynasty just because he felt like he wasn't getting enough credit. That's why the fanbase hated him.

[@jp3813]

@@PokemonTrainerVince Tell that to the narrator.

[@Lloyd00]

​@@jp3813 the narrator didnt say anything about what happened after his career. where he made all the wrong decisions and is forever hated along with anyone associated with him like his wife

[@jp3813]

@@Lloyd00 Exactly.

[@brianplunkett4002]

Krause knew what he was doing. The players had big egos, and didn’t like someone drawing boundaries on them.

[@MelloMood1]

Love MJ, he's the GOAT, he was kinda rough with Jerry Krause, but Jerry Krause did break up an great dynasty. The Bulls definitely had one or two more championships left to win..........Give the little man his credit.

[@shaunphillips3236]

He didn't deserve it as much as people would like to think

[@BrandonHaymon]

Krause doesn't deserve no credit for a damn thing

[@Uniquew1992]

If Jordan would’ve had it his way he would be limited to just 2 maybe 3 rings instead of 6. Krause probably was a terrible human being but he was the best executive ever

[@BrandonHaymon]

@@Uniquew1992 Gtfoh kid you don't know what you are talking about. Go bed

[@cjjacks33]

@@Uniquew1992If Krause had it his way, they wouldn’t have 6 rings. He was trying to break up the dynasty even before the last championship

[@ST-tf4sq]

Kraus was amazing analyst, scout and GM but his ego was too much. Usually people as talented at him are quiet and behind the scenes but Kraus wanted spotlight and fame... Sad that he went that way... Greed

[@andrewcook1246]

Sounds like he was the MJ of GM's

[@Ballsucky]

Imagine getting no credit for building one of the best dynasties in sports history. I’d wager the vast majority of modern NBA fans didn’t even know who jerry kraus was until the last dance 3 years after he passed.

[@darkdante9]

​@@andrewcook1246Nah.. It sounds more like he was a GM that just wanted the notoriety for putting it all together to make it work. He was jealous of the attention Jordan and Phil were getting for the Bulls' success.

[@andrewcook1246]

@@darkdante9 He did put the team together

[@cjjacks33]

@@andrewcook1246he put the team together and torn it down. GMs are not on the court, there is a reason players get the majority of the credit in all sports. He let his ego get the best of him

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

I remember watching the 'Last Dance' and, even based on MJ's account and all his supporters, I found absolutely nothing wrong with Jerry Krause. Of course, he isn't perfect. But, he was a helluva manager, and it just seemed like players hated him for doing his job too well.

[@Superfly18257]

I don’t they hated him for him doing his job it more of how he went about it

[@thehoboman]

having a short, fat, white man insinuate that he owns you would rub just about any black person the wrong way, it's no wonder he's hated by many players

[@fayguled900]

General managers job requirements are people skills and communication. He lacked it and could have had a great legacy and more championships if he could just get rid of his ego.

[@JimK-jg3qr]

They hated him because well look at him 😂

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

@@fayguled900 Communication is a two-way street. Like I said, Jerry surely wasn't perfect, but, let's not act like MJ & Co. couldn't have done better on that end - especially as far as the Last Dance documentary was concerned. They basically made Jerry Krause the arch villain of the entire story. That's beyond crazy.

[@LOYAL4YA]

I read Michael's book "For the love of the game" and Michael said Krause referred to him as "Property" when Jordan wanted to play pickup games in the summer of 1986.

[@DJEASE]

To Pull the plug at a teams peek is crazy

[@rodneymathews6775]

Many Cowboys fans know your pain.

[@vincenth.8793]

It’s a shame that relationships can ruin, animosity can grow and hate and contempt can fester all because of “pissing” contests.

[@Texas_21]

What a bunch of egos that ruined such a great team

[@Flinnyyyy]

Don't give him fucking credit for signing Rodman, that wasn't even Krause's idea!!!

[@garyschweder7755]

Very timely upload. Bravo.

[@ralphlee5399]

I see a parallel between Jordan/Krause and Brady/Belichick. Each pair won 6 titles. Would Krause have won 6 without Jordan? No way. Brady without Belichick? No way. Belichick without Brady. I think that answer is pretty obvious. Jordan without Krause? Masaaaaaybe but probably not. Great video by the way!!

[@generalshepherd2209]

I think this beef can almost be called even. Jordan was an incredible player who on even a slightly above average team could probably at least take them to the finals. Krause was a man who found pieces that could complete your team and take you places you never dreamed of. Both were petty and never bothered or even attempted to bury the hatchet even after all the success they had (mostly because of MJ’s almost maniacal obsession with proving himself right/winning all the time, partly because Krause was simply responding in kind.) Because of how personal MJ takes even the slightest gesture of ill will (you could accidentally sneeze in his direction and that would be his motivation to drop 60 points on you) this beef will never be resolved. Wouldn’t doubt if either man cussed the other on their deathbed.

[@tufstuff2586]

I get people didn't like Krause but he deserves more credit if it wasn't for him the Bulls wouldn't have won a championship. I do understand MJ though and where he was coming from.

[@Freelancer2311]

When it comes to the Lakers and Lebron they bend over backwards for him and the teams a mess. Here Jerry Krause did the opposite making the great choices he thought would fit and it paid off big time despite the Star not getting what he wanted.

[@tufstuff2586]

@@Freelancer2311 Yeah I mean I understand both sides of the argument I mean imagine losing your best friend cause of a trade but you also want to build a powerhouse of a team so yeah.

[@stevenleslie8557]

Krause was not thinking it through by demanding Jackson do something about Jordan's mocking of him. Jordan already hated Krause and that wasn't changing. If Jackson did as Krause requested, then the best player in basketball now hates both of you. That would have been devastating for team unity. Jackson was wise to side with Jordan despite Krause's petty move to terminate him.

[@josephshin6439]

I think this proves how incredibly biased documentaries can get away with being, and we shouldn’t blindly accept things as truth just because they’re in a documentary

[@Lalambz]

they basically had the same mindset but different directions cant have two power houses in one team

[@cjjacks33]

And that’s one of the reasons Reinsdorf is a terrible owner and to this day

[@udgame1789]

It was an even dispute of differences. Cant blame both sides

[@MikeyBAAZ]

Getting Pippen in the 1987, trade from the supersonics. Getting rid of Oakley pissed Jordan off.

[@Seyiid1453]

Krause has played a large part in the success of the Chicago Bulls. It was only through the right players and coaches etc. that the Bulls became the team of the 90s. If Jordan had his way, he probably wouldn't have been able to do anything like we saw with the Wizards. Even if he is the best player of all time, he should respect Krause and show more insight into his decisions.

[@VAHOSS]

You give Krause way more credit than he deserves for getting players and building the team

[@johngo3715]

A fair video. Not counting Krause contributions for the Bull's success is like saying RC Buford didnt help the Spurs dynasty.

[@ThePumasboy300]

Think it boils down to credit. Jordan wants credit for him and the players, which they get. Phil got credit for centering the players, and Jerry wanted the credit for putting the team together. All in all, that dynasty doesn't happen without all 3 components. I hope they realize that one day and put aside their differences.

[@DrLuke49]

Legend has it that the Newman character in the Seinfeld TV series was loosely based upon Jerry Krause.

[@CooperAATE]

Real "shut up and enjoy your rings" vibe at the end.......

[@madkilla707]

All Krause needed was RESPECT AND GRATITUDE FOR HIS HARD WORK WHICH HE DESERVES

[@condor5150]

Even though I H8 both the state of Illinois and Chi town. I'm fascinated with the Chicago Bull's championship era.

[@TeacherLegendary]

Kukoc had Jordan and Pip defend him and still drop 2/11. When they met again in the finals, he had 16 points, nine assists, five rebounds. That is cold af.

[@minatodroger7890]

No one force pip to sign that contract it wqs his fault not jerry. MJ now know how hard it was to run a successful franchise.

[@Metromania2022]

Remember, “Krums” was disliked by not only other Bulls players but players across the league.

[@jesuscage]

Ill hand it to Krause, he was responsible for recruiting all them players including MJ and made most of them hofers including his biggest investment, Toni Kucoc, if not for Krause Kucoc would be a complete unknown

[@darkdante9]

Krause didn't recruit MJ. MJ was there before Krause became the GM

[@thedarkfrost2351]

MJ would’ve never won w out Krause. I wonder if he appreciates him more now after his dumpster fire of a franchise

[@nicoli-thenextup9866]

But that’s the thing krouse never won without Jordan hell he never even thought about trading that’s how big of a peace Jordan was krouse undermined the players that have to perform every night nd said that ppl in his position wins championships not the players ????

[@gorzenstein]

at the end of the day, when you bring together so many big personalities, and so many big egos, drama like this is bound to happen. It doesn't matter if they're great people or total assholes, it's just how it works.

[@Jon-qc6hg]

Kinda messed up that phil laughed at krause after all he did for him

[@glen7137]

Yeah also it's messed up that MJ bullied a NBA player just because he was picked by Krause

[@sammybaum9169]

Scottie’s fault for being a dumbass with that contact

[@Nimbus1701]

I view Krause very similar to how I view Jerry Jones. Jones is a great owner, and although the Cowboys haven't delivered much in the pist seqson and not a Super Bowl since the very early days of Jones' ownership, he is a genius marketer. I think he famously said something once that equated to if the Cowboys are being talked about, even though they suck, they are still being talked about, and that leads to money. Krause is Jerry Jones, without the benefit of owning the organization. By contrast, Jordan was/is almost a unicorn as a player because he did not need 1 penny of his basketball paycheck because of his endorsement money. Yet, he would and did still play like he was trying to earn his spot as a walk on in college. Krause "played" for money, Jordan played for "love of the game." It is a unique situation because in this instance it worked. Jordan did not make much money, didn't even renegotiate his contract until 1996 or 1997 and rumor has it, took a pay cut to keep the team together so they could win. Jordan didn't like Krause because their mind sets were too different. However, despite Jordan hating to lose anything as much as he did, I have a video of a conversation somewhere that he said he would rather the Bulls had stayed together until they were beaten because they were on top instead of breaking them up. Just the fact that Jordan concede that in an interview speaks volumes, and it is amazing they stayed together as long as they did as I think Krause wanted to rebuild again after 1996, but I think Reinsdorf stepped in after 3 or 4 players came to him. Krause was great as a scout and maybe a goat among scouts. However, he fancied himself as owner level executive with the powers that go with that position and he really was just a GM with an eye for talent.

[@UlyssesVillamin]

What puzzles me is how all of the hate not on the owner, but on Krause? The owner has the last say obviously. Can anyone enlighten me?

[@martinwhalley3286]

The 86-87 season. I met MJ in Las Vegas, with his ankle braced, as a guest of a radio sports talk show held Sundays at the Race&Sports book at The Stardust Hotel/Casino. I don't even remember what they discussed. Afterwards, he signed autographs. My room mate and I had MJ autograph C-notes (MJ smiled at that as he turned out to be a big gambler). Well, being as we worked next door...at the 3rd busiest McDs on Earth behind Beijing and London. Sooo, a week later... our landlord said, " Thank you boyz" as we paid our rent using those C-notes.... Geez

[@MNPhantom]

You got a Player trying to push out a GM that drafted everything they needed, A GM Pushing out a Coach that did the job better then anyone else, Scottie Pippen stirring up culture problems over a contract he agreed to take, All of Dennis Rodmans off court issues, and they still won 6 titles in 8 years. Frankly I feel like had the owner just fired Krause they would've not only kept Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan, But they clearly had all the tools in place to win again coming fresh off a three peat and terrible draft stock. You just won the finals 3 years in a row.. Whats krause gonna do now draft a hall of famer with the 32nd pick and some how plug him into a roster coming off a title win? Krause is a draft expert! So make him a scout and quit letting him toxify the team.. I dont see how having a draft expert helped the bulls at the end of their run.

[@nymike06]

Jerry Krause deserves a lot of credit for the 90s Bulls success.

[@MrCollector1000]

a gm is a gm for a reason and a player is a player for a reason. a GM wants to win regardless, players want to play with their best friends and try to win while being flashy and basking in the fame. (see todays nba) but a gm creates a team of like minded people who have the correct attitudes, work ethic and skills to reach a grander prize.

[@JolliAllGenGamer]

We all know that MJ and JK didn’t get along, but if it wasn’t for all of those drafts and moves Jerry did MJ wouldn’t have 6 titles and vice versa. Both needed each other to win those 6 titles. I just wish JK didn’t break up the team like that in 1999. Wish JK and Phil made amends for MJ to come back and not retire in 99. Just a what if it they can win 7th title or not if they lost in the 99 finals then ok time for a rebuild. We never got that opportunity. Maybe Jordan would be 7-0 or 8-0 or 6-1 in the finals.

[@joserojas1001]

Jerry Krause probably choosed his words very poorly when speaking directly to Jordan at some point in time in the 80s. When a coworker in any work environment uses words that belittles or insults your intelligence, at that point in time where the innocents of a healthy workplace changes for the worse

[@billb7583]

Should not have taken his money then...goes for any employee

[@TownBizz-r1d]

Jackson coached n da CBA. N Tex Winter was da mastermind of all those chips from Bulls ta Lakers

[@prawnstar502]

after watching this i respect jerry for what he has done

[@willg3220]

Poor crumbs. Mj took everything personally

[@CelebrityGamerTV]

Funny, Bulls fans hate Krause too. Why else would they boo the widow on Ring of Honor night?

[@nattyps3160]

As a knicks fan in the 90s if chicago didn't want krause players didnt like krause if be thrilled to have had him. The knicks never put a hall of fame or perenial all star next to ewing. They also sadly traded mark jackson for the aging doc rivers & to mainly get charles smith ( game 5 vs bulls & a bust ) & let xavier mcdaniel walk! That team took the bulls to 7 in 92 so the knicks actually went backwards losing in 6 to the bulls even though they made it to the further round. Also blame pat riley for burning the knicks out in the regular season to get the best record in the east above only chicago but one home court loss erases thar hard work. I think pat also was of the school that the no.1 seed gets to the finals. Id rather win 10 less reg season games make the playoffs as a 4th seed so the best players are rested. Like pat would play a 7 man rotation in blow outs. Thats why the knicks were burned the heck out by the time pat left on 95. The knicks should have faced the bulls in 97. Anyway riley maybe a great gm in miami for decades but he also was in this 2000s era where all stars jump ship to their opponents teams the next year. In the 80s & 90s a superstar leaving a team was shocking as they usually were w/ their original team for life or at lesst 7 to 10 years. Poor barkley was stuck in medoicre philly for 8 or 9 years. He said he couldnt take it theyd nake the playoffs every year but be swept or bounced in the 1st round. Sux he didnt get traded to a better team like the suns earlier & b4 his back went out. Immediately w/ the suns he won mvp & got to the finals. Which leads me to mj ending his ckose friendship w/ barkley years ago saying he was a bad owner & gm which proves to this day. Id say yes mj has the rungs but barkleys post career w/ tnt hes so beloved & people who dont watcg bball watch fior barkleys iconic moments & hes on many lists for best fwd ever in the 80s & 90s usually w/ pippen who imo was not gonna be the hof player he was if krause didnt put him w/ mj. If pippen went to the sonics he wasnt leading them to titles.

[@robertlevy2420]

Talk about a circular firing squad!! Its a miracle that the enormous egos of Jordan, Jackson and Kraus could fit in the same building, nonetheless win 6 Championships!!! All 3 were not close in talent at what the other 2 did so incredibly well!

[@gahaylongplays7033]

A lot of long standing disagreements could be solved with a simple conversation but everyone’s just too prideful for that. Yall are apart of the same organization. Yes Mike the players play and you guys win but it takes a lot of work behind the scenes to get there too. Its not me vs him when you understand it takes everyone

[@gregorywilliams5606]

If i could give this one 10000 likes, i would. Informative, put together well, makes this all the more interesting. It is high time Jerry Krause start receiving his well earned flowers. Jordan will always be Jordan, but his legacy would most definitely not be what it is, had it not been for the late, great Jerry Krause.

[@joelwilliam6216]

Worth mentioning Kukoc won their respect after coming back and playing harder and better in the next game. He was damn good. This was the perfect team once Rodman came in

[@MadSUPANOVA]

When you hate someone alive... even in death .. a person will not care. If you had no respect for a person alive... you will give 2 F's when they pass. Truths. You can see that with players for example that was only raised by their mother and barely knew their father - only probably seen a picture of them, but was never raised by them. There is no care. It is what it is. Thin line between love and hate. When it's hate. There is no empathy

[@zr7699]

Without Krause he might have had more rings than 6.

[@brandonfouts4074]

Enjoy the journey said the collaborater

[@positivevibes7093]

They all go hand in hand 💯 but MJ said it right, We have a right to defend it until we lose it 💯

[@noyce.]

As much of a trash Krause could be, he sure was heck of a GM. Thank God he didn't succumb to MJ's waffling, Limiting Minutes/Winter/Paxson/Oakley/Pippen/Grant/Cartwright/Sloan/Jackson/Kukoc/Kerr/Harper/Rodman & Longley I guess? And all these makes MJ play even harder because of his "hatred" for Krause + also keeping him grounded. We all know what happens when MJ gets creative control... *coughs Wiz/Hornets MJ is hell of a basketball player but damn is he lucky to be in such a situation.

[@malojewell2755]

This is less of an explanation of their beef and more an attempt to make Krause look like the "good guy."

[@marvinwhittaker]

Jerry Krause built that dynasty. From 1984-1990 the bulls were rebuilding by adding pieces to the puzzle and then from 1991-93 and 1996-98 nothing but success.

[@anthonywashington3743]

Krause did scottie wrong and Horace Grant thats why Horace went to the magic and got the money 💰 he wanted Jerry Krause just didn't want to pay them but he paid kukoc

[@diggingmystyle]

This reminds me of the Cowboys during the 90s.

[@dozhadeville444]

CRUMBS 😭😭😭

[@Papadoc1981]

Some thing confuses me with this video. There’s a clip of Krause saying that Jordan never once tried to tell him what players to pick up or who to draft. That goes against some of the things said on this video.

[@Dreamagain11]

"Organizations as a whole win championships" I mean.. he's not wrong. Great players have wasted their entire careers playing for pathetic organizations who fail to bring in any sort of actual talent to play with.

[@DamnitBobbeh2399]

It’s almost like you need a guy who’s not gonna let his players walk over him to run a successful team… I love MJ and he was the best to ever do it but he was a prima donna. Krause built an amazing team around Jordan and brought Chicago 6 titles, he deserves respect

[@ejquilala]

Krause and MJ relationship its like Kobe and Shaq. they have great run but they could achieved more if they could work together.

[@BigJoe2.0]

Imagine if they could just have worked together and been civil with each other. Bulls may have won another title or 2. One of those what ifs

[@stevenvicijan4338]

Remember Olden as I liked to call him "Polyienikee" in Sacramento. He should have never flipped the fans. This can always come back to haunt you . . .

[@mistermarcos5508]

Players have to perform, then the organisation can win.

[@herreramike4205]

Exactly if wasn't for this all this fools wouldn't be debating who's the best player it's a team sport not a one man show

[@muinuddinahmed8164]

Jerry Krauss was the man but he had Napoleon syndrome which destroyed him. Especially his beef with Phil at the last made that clear. Lot of people in this world are short but having Napolean syndrome will kill you or make you unhappy sob in the world.

[@igano111]

"The Flying Cocaine Circus" 🤣🤣🤣

[@robotube7361]

The thing with people like Jerry Krause is they are often working at the sidelines and never get the credit and that can sting a lot. Krause was as passionate for winning and doing the perfect job as much as Jordan was, but he was a flawed human too often being arrogant and sometimes when he was feeling unapreciated, often bragged about what he've done, instead of letting others talk about his accomplishments. Jordan is the GOAT but what made him the best competitor in the game made him a very petty human being off the court. The beauty of basketball and other team sports is that even petty and arrogant (but very talented in their departments) human beings like Jordan and Krause can work together toward the same goal and accomplish incredible feats.

[@oskaveli662]

"If you're getting ready for work right now you're probably not Doug Collins" Savage

[@85passthru]

hahahaha so nasty

[@galgalore]

That stood out the most to me ..Jesus that was cold

[@brownbabydoll7912]

Cold blooded 😂

[@dd7827]

😂😂😂

[@thearmourboy3254]

Back when ESPN was good.

[@lebronjames-oo8gg]

Who’s here after Chicago Fans booed Jerry Krause

[@abdullamasud4278]

Is disgusting that the fans did that. That too to his widowed wife.

[@GenshinLover283]

Chicago fans have about as much class as Toronto Raptors fans: 0

[@PTCAL]

Lebron >

[@MikeyBAAZ]

New generation It was Jordan team

[@hauntlfy]

what?

[@christopherhook2141]

After reading up on the Bulls dynasty, I've come to one conclusion; they all needed each other. Krause might've been a pain in the ass, but he was a manager that put together a team that won six championships in eight years. You look at how Jordan and Jackson did as executives for other teams; Jordan and the Wizards drafting Kwame Brown (need I say more?) Then Jordan with the Bobcats/Hornets. Finally, you look at how Jackson did for the Knicks as head of basketball operations. In conclusion, just because you're a great player or coach, that doesn't mean you'd be great in the front office.

[@meekmeads]

Phil Jackson was scapegoated and sabotaged by James Dolan

[@kyoumeister8996]

Bro you don't just look at the outcome and say who's right: Bulls already started winning under coach Doug Colins, the made it to the fvcking Eastern Conference Finals! Even if Rodman was a good fit, he needed Jordan's presence so that he don't become an uncontrollable beast in the locker room (to which Rodman actually did sometimes, just on and off). Pippen was a great talent, but he only averaged 7 points in the first season with Bulls. Charles Oakly proved himself after he was traded for Cartwright to Knicks, and became a huge problem during Chicago and New York playoff games (although MJ always come on top). Horace Grant was proven to be very avarage in Magic, the only reason he did well in Bulls was because he was fed easy baskets (with MJ and Pippen's presence). Toni Kukoc failed so hard in 1999 when Bulls decides to build a team around him. This is not to mention after the Jordan Era, Krause traded the immense talent Ron Artest (Meta World Peace) for absolutely no reason even after he already proved his worth on the team. Krause soon resigned because after Jordan left, Bulls was barely winning 20 games a season! you clearly needed the players to win games because they are the ones who trained themselves and play on the court. Krause has nothing to do with the blood sweat and tears Jordan put during training and in the locker room, and a lot of the 'Krause was right' moment was because JORDAN MADE IT WORK, not Krause. This 'unbiased' video is just total BS.

[@nassiglutt6587]

​@@kyoumeister8996nah you gotta consider jerry's moves on trades, hired coach and assistants, trades and contracts. Pip was screwed but that allowed them to be formidable for years. He didn't give up to what mj wants and wishes on teammates and coaches. He just went his way on how to build a consistent winning team having the goat and who are the best fit of players and coaches for him. MJ no doubt is the main star and reason of the dynasty but hated the fact that jerry was right everytime on trades and who to draft. You can't deny that jerry is a excellent gm so i gotta say both are "high pride" and winners as well so they hate each other🤷

[@kurtstephen1147]

@@kyoumeister8996you’re right! Jordan was the reason bulls got those rings! no jordan, bulls dont win championship and he proved when he retired most espcially his first retirement!

[@blowc1612]

Hell no 🤣 MJ didn't need Krause nor Jackson... At best Krauss is a good scout, THATS IT. He was a horrible GM. Only reason the guys he brought in was any good is because MJ pushed them. He mis managed his players and built zero relationships with them. He isolated everyone. That's why once MJ left, everyone that could leave LEFT. Outside of Kerr, Harper (who has a great player before he went to the Bulls) and of course Pip, none of them became better outside of the Bulls. Actually Kerry regressed but only won more because he went to the Spurs. Harper followed Jackson. Everyone else was a shell of themselves after MJ left.

[@midnightlumina7]

Krause's beef was more against Phil, rather than MJ, believe it or not. Krause felt that Phil was getting the praise that was meant for him.

[@Amick44]

Probably. But after the players, the coach is the next most visible key to the fans and the media.

[@junglekutz5625]

If what you said is true, If Krause just kept doing his thing and looked past that, he would have found more contentment in achieving what he had achieved. Being that having an eye for good players (his good vision) played an important role in them crossing each others paths. I think the narrator said that Krause supported the underdog because he was seen as an underdog. To hell with all that. When you buy into the fluff that most yap about, you fall into a stupor that does zero for your mental health, much less overall reality.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

It wasn't just that. It's also that Phil used the players's deep seated hatred of Krause as a way to unite the team.

[@TownBizz-r1d]

Yeah on some Jerry, Jimmy crap

[@MrLp1980]

Facts. The only thing Krause did to Jordan was trying to stop him from playing the year he broke his foot. Any gm would have tried to stop that. Once phil got there he used that to make Jordan and else hate Krause. Phil was always the true Villain. He did the same thing in LA using Kobe as the problem during their first title runs with Shaq. The only problem was Kobe never complained. I still say Phil had an under the table deal with Lakers during the Bulls run is why Krause was ready to rid of him. Jordan was just to loyal to Phil.

[@younglove3362]

Finally! A video not so Jordan biased and actually gives a great breakdown!

[@frankiemendoza5976]

i had to cut it off at 3:26 because in all reality, it is business. This why jordan own organization ain't doing good (hornets). guess he wasn't prepare for that role, but hell he was a great franchise or face of the NBA player

[@tajgibson8776]

Yes, the nba is a business which at the time he didn't know.

[@tajgibson8776]

You must be a lebron fan, huh? I say that because at least the media kisses Lebron a$$ every chance they get for a paycheck. The fact is nobody on the bulls team liked Jerry Krause because he was trying to trade guys while the bulls were winning games and championships. He wanted to get rid of Phil and and pippen back in 1991 but the owner told him not to because MJ would leave.

[@crystalizedExposed]

@@tajgibson8776 he did try to make some dumb moves, but he was the one that brought in pippen, phil jackson, and helped trade for rodman. mj would not have won 6 rings without krause

[@sonny4978]

Who tf mentioned lebron you bigot. Without krause jordan is a nobody. He got every player in the bulls dynasty except jordan EVEN when he came back

[@johncambridge7181]

I am a big Jordan fan but you just can’t deny krause’s big contribution in building bulls dynasty. To be honest I feel bad for Krause. He definitely deserved his flowers

[@mistameff3528]

If he knew his place, he would recive alot more love. On the other hand, he made stupid remarks and said stupid shit because he thought he should be more respected. As a GM he was one of the best.

[@tuhoegamerjerey]

He also is responsible for breaking up the bulls dynasty. He didn't want Phil Jackson back.

[@wezob4569]

Yea building and destroying it also not realising that the winning is due to the players doing the bulk of the work.

[@shaunphillips3236]

​@@mistameff3528 Jerry Krause wasn't 1 of the best GM'S smfh

[@mistameff3528]

@shaunphillips3236 He build almost the whole team. The man knew what he was doing. And winning 6 rings? He sure is one of the best.

[@김원제-m3s]

if Jordan did not have Krause, he would be Orlando Shaq, Cleveland Lebron, Oklahoma KD at best.

[@eamparbeng]

What a way to end such a mighty and iconic dynasty

[@michaelnoel9998]

Ikr. In my opinion, if the team had stayed together, they may have won one or two more

[@eamparbeng]

@@michaelnoel9998 huh

[@impacc4182]

@@michaelnoel9998they definitely weren’t gonna beat the emerging spurs or lakers

[@dariog36th]

@@michaelnoel9998they barely got passed the Pacers in 1998. That dynasty was done. It was better that they went out on top instead of dying like an old dog the same way the warriors are doing now.

[@damienprince1077]

@@dariog36th They earned the right to lose on the court. Not be broken up over front office issues. We missed seeing something special with the break-up of that team. Win or lose the title, it would've been epic.

[@The_Bigot]

The 1990s was truly a special time to have lived through. Such legends that we got to witness live

[@Johnnywiseify]

That "you're our property" comment would've gotten Krause fired today!

[@bigdawgrocky8667]

As he should lmao? I mean cmon man I might be under contract but I’m not your property lol

[@christopherhook2141]

Technically, yeah he was. That contract made it so, but I get your point.

[@cezz1105]

Thats the white man's mindset! Some shit just never changes! Smh

[@dariog36th]

@@christopherhook2141yeah Krause didn’t sugar coat his words. And if Jordan and Scottie were bullying him every day they better be able to take it as much as they were able to dish it out.

[@kevinmuckian5663]

As a fan of sports, please don't let Uncle Jerry [SEE McMillions] Reinsdorf off the hook

[@jeremyrodriguez6760]

I'm a Laker fan and I'll go on record saying Jerry West was THE most important piece of the Showtime/Shaq and Kobe era. Krause was that guy for the Bulls. Having a GM that can find talented players to surround your superstars (with some of the worst positions in the draft) and keep a dynasty running is rare and needs to be appreciated more than it is. Think of it this way, If David Griffen was MJ's GM in Chicago, do you think they get past the Pistons with 'Boobie' Gibson being the number 2 scorer on the team? And if Krause was building a team around Lebron, which way would the G.O.A.T. discussion be leaning right now? As good as MJ was, Krause deserves WAY more credit than he get's for building and sustaining that dynasty.

[@fobinc]

West was also a very good motivational speaker. He helped keep the locker room under control. This, I would say, is where West was better than Krause.

[@GABEMOORE533]

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[@tajgibson8776]

Krause did make great draft choices, but after the team started winning he hated it because he could no longer draft new talent since they had no draft picks, which is why he wanted to dismantle the team and rebuild, which he said many times back in the 90's.

[@fart2003]

bruh... there are so many factual errors in this comment, i don't even know where to begin

[@arizonaFIREent]

I might be a Celtics fan but I've always respected Jerry West on and even more off the court he is the definition of a NBA legend

[@jdoes1991]

4:12 PAUSE😳

[@Bigedub101]

Naww he finished

[@truongnd1]

😂 .... JERRY nutted in hos pants

[@SoundGodzStudios]

Ikr no Diddy

[@terencewinters2154]

Maybe one of his greatest accomplishments not mentioned was signing all the lengthy backup centers to give him 18 fouls blocking the lane and so other teams couldnt have front court depth. Parrish edwards salley purdue wennington cartwright longley etc. The dolphin sized frontcourt that let pippen jordan harper overplay and gamble denying the wings and creating transition points.

[@SuperTrey807]

Kraus was a great GM without a doubt BUT he was also the pure definition of the “little man complex”

[@brandoninhofer6592]

He was also an idiot, he had what most could have dreamed of yet he tore it down. Absolutely crazy.

[@thenightowls2804]

​@@brandoninhofer6592That Bulld team was on its last leg. Scottie could barely stand at the end of the Utah Series. 1998 was their last shot at a title

[@brandoninhofer6592]

@@thenightowls2804 Could've made another run or two at a title. Like I said he was in the ideal position as a GM, as many would have easily taken his place.

[@jameshorton3692]

@@brandoninhofer6592he picked pippen. Hes the goat exec

[@brandoninhofer6592]

@@jameshorton3692 Great 👍 but he still made horrible decisions. Should've never got rid of Phil, and breaking up that team was dumb.