Why Modern carbon road bikes ARE over priced junk!

[@bigdawg4790]

Imagine the marketing campaign in 8 years of the return of the rim brake 😅

[@jimihendrix731]

Looking forward to it.

[@goodoleme747]

I guarantee that’ll happen. They’ll reinvent the rim brake

[@kevinbourke4038]

@@bigdawg4790 Hopefully in less than 8 yrs.

[@jonathanlong3356]

Will probably be around the same time that a new rubber compound for tires comes out and it will be faster with skinny high pressure tires

[@goodoleme747]

@@jonathanlong3356 lol so true

[@hucklejoko4838]

that commuter sl8 never fails to amuse me. nevertheless it's being used so still better than rotting in a dentists garage

[@TK-nc3ou]

So many good bikes like that barely used! Just need to wait for an occasion :)

[@TenXBikesSenzatiiTariBucuresti]

Offtopic. I put into practice what durian says about getting a great bike cheap and it is 100% like he say. Thank you sir! You talk real deal!😊

[@Dpace111]

This felt like watching a horror movie for bikes

[@storegga]

The year is 2029, Pogaçar struggling to defend his title in the '29 TdF unleashes a rim brake colnago on 25mm tyres for the Queen stage. He launches a blistering attack on GC marketing kids now 10years younger than him with 75km to go and clinches it. The next year all the GC guys turn up with rim and S-Works drop their new bike.... marketing will say "Tarmac SL15: You have to look back to go forwards" and we'll all be old and salty as fuck to even give a damn having stuck with rim brakes so hard.

[@lunam7249]

yes, modern bikes are modern hype /marketing BS and 5x overpriced!!😳😳☠️☠️

[@clp91009]

I predict that within the next 5 years, big bike will reintroduce rim brakes as the latest technology and be marketing it as the next big innovation.

[@louisvuittondom]

Sick gravel bike mate!

[@globaljobber]

I've just ridden 2000km on the UK Pan Celtic ride, on my carbon Scott Addict, carrying lots of load. Bike weighed 24kg + plus me on top. All types of road surface, including some serious gravel sections. The bike was awesome. No problems at all, handled it great. Comfortable over the distance. The Transcontinental bikes are also predominantly carbon - for a reason. They are strong, they are light, they are smooth, and they handle well. Yes of course metal bikes are good too, and have their place, but modern carbon bikes are fantastic. But, I guess you need something to talk about.

[@eh6520]

Looks like a bike graveyard 😮

[@TESTA-CC]

Still Using a 1987 Peugeot Perthus Pro Reynolds 753r Steel Road Bike with DownTube Shifters&RimBrakes Weighs 8.3 KG & Vitus Dural 1979 Duralinox exactly the same down tube Shifters Weighs 8.3Kg aswell Aluminium.

[@leslie7922]

Marketing: "return of the king" advertising rim brakes

[@vrius3335]

Crosswind stability =/= aerodynamics

[@TK-nc3ou]

Just bought a 650 dollars sl3 roubaix and 650 dollars cannondale superx. Gonna spend 350 on small additions and they are gonna KILL! Full carbon frames, ultegra and sram.

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

Nice deals

[@TK-nc3ou]

@@michaelbrownlee9497 yeah, Gotta be patient a bit. There are many worth like 1-1.2k however, i just wanted something cheaper and adapt it to my taste. ;)

[@pedallinraw]

Amount of riding and long rides I’ve done over the past 20 years …probs more than most…just saying…🤗I’ve never had any issues with my alloy rim brakes TCR… Do like the look of some of the newer Giants though,only if they offered them in rim brake…even if it was special order 🤗🥰🥳

[@waynehiggins899]

They still do a 2021 model TCR advanced pro I've got one. Upgraded the wheels to a Winspace hyper r33 rim brake. Kill climbing bike

[@TweetyBird_Likes_Quokkas]

new bikes are ugly and have no character ... they're all basically cookie-cutter designs with the brand name and logo as the only significant identifying part

[@evanelken4964]

Recently bought a Winspace SLC 2.0 rim brake frame. Moved components over from my old bike, Shimano 105 r7000. Great bike!

[@Albi_2011]

Man with all that gear you got there you got a cradle of material for the channel.

[@calvinj3275]

“Sell your fucken car and buy a cannondale”- durian rider

[@ebikescrapper3925]

I bought a used Giant hybrid for £150, put mudguards and a rack on it. It's been used in the wonderful Scottish weather and still going strong

[@KavanOBrien]

What’s your opinion of the Magura rim Brakes ?

[@ebikescrapper3925]

What surprises me about modern bike culture is that getting a bike that fits is really important. People will spend a lot of money on a big brands bike instead of getting one made to measure for the same price or cheaper.

[@noopy24]

Can I ask you what you think about a Cannondale bad boy one and three?

[@musclelessfitness2045]

First it was Andrew Feather, now it's Cam N. They're all learning slowly but surely 😂 What do you think about aero bikes for roads? The claim is that, although they're heavy, they're faster on flats and false flats

[@darongardner4294]

The lightest bike you can buy is actually on the second hand market it weighs 12.5 pounds which is considerably lighter and cheaper then modern bikes .You could buy it for 1200 us dollars ten thousand less then the new specialized.

[@cam-hz4yl]

Hey man, donyou still have your legendary Giant TCR? Also, do a vid on all your bikes and gear.

[@dholmblad]

Wish my area had the same market for used bikes that adelaide seems to have. Been on the hunt for rim brake higher end bike from 09-14 for a few years. Theres tons and tons in 56cm, but very few in 58 or 60..

[@rafnaegels8913]

Van Aert is considering using two plate wheels for the TT today. Thoughts on this? feels super unsafe.

[@durianriders]

Just depends on the wind. Ive ridden a lot of France and not that windy compared to Adelaide. That is why Adelaide produces MORE top level cyclists than ANY city on earth in cycling history. The wind!

[@rafnaegels8913]

@@durianriders yep, your right. Worked out just fine for van Aert despite of the rain.

[@alexconstas9634]

All that body positive stuff 😂

[@nb9797]

Very interesting interview posted the other day with Victor Conte on KZbin for "How Crime Works"... eye-opening remarks he made about how loopholes in testing mean athletes are obliged to dope, because others will be. Basically repeating what you're saying... interesting watch!

[@gabrielfernandeztattoos]

Wanna get allu wheelset for winter. What you think is a good wheelset to go for?

[@pedallinraw]

H Plus Son Archetype rims 🙂👌🏻

[@gabrielfernandeztattoos]

@@pedallinraw gonna check that one out!!

[@Nyarlathoth]

It's all UCI's fault, they shoud have never allowed disks on the road

[@durianriders]

💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@javiersmith2216]

No one talks about all the injuries they caused by cutting over the years.

[@christiankeim]

Feel free to prove me wrong, but crash hazard in the pro peloton from 1984 to 2005 was 33% value of peloton. Meaning 33% of the used to crash out before the end of a grand tour. Now it's 3%. I agree rim brakes work just fine and have since the dawn of cycling. Just saying everything Darian just said sounds a little methy. And not accurate. I have data proving everything he's saying is just rubbish bullshit​@@javiersmith2216

[@rainerkunz791]

Biggest racebike junkyard in Australia 💥😎👌

[@kevinbourke4038]

No not junk

[@rainerkunz791]

@@kevinbourke4038 Sure....but looks like junkyard

[@richardlopez7805]

Single handedly causing the used bike market to explode! Even GCN is talking about how the rim brake is making a comeback!

[@BigBrownMonke]

Durian, can I have a personalized tour of your “Backyard Bike Chop”? Pretty please!

[@ChronicleZ787]

Call local authority! This is a junkyard full of aedes mosquito!!!

[@darrenhowe9636]

You like wot you like…I’d love a dogma..can’t afford one but it doesn’t stop me wanting one.I have a bianchi xr3 with rim brakes at the moment which I also love..If a £200 eBay special gets you riding,great.If a dogma at £15k gets you out riding more,great.Who are we too judge…The only thing I find funny is people worry about how much their bike weighs and spend £££ on the lightest parts but never think if they had afew less beers/chocolate bars at nite they might lose afew pounds and save themselves a few pounds.

[@seansims8805]

I ride a rims , a 2014 focus izalco pro . Sure could use that 8 here in seattle in my quiver which is small as in one bike . Had my tools and bikes a few times over the last few years ....dying to ride new road disk and tear up the stuff to prove some theories and promote rim bike development....

[@Handletaken4]

Just watched GCN with LeMond. The guy got on that stupid carbon toy and nearly crashed. Top tube 4" too short, handlebars 50mm too narrow and 3" too low. Wheels 600gm too light to offer angular momentum needed for riding a line. A custom steel bike is the way to go. Heck, the homeless in my town ride OCLV Postal Treks

[@raulfernandezperez73]

let me tell you about those Bontrager wheels, they are light ! yes ! but super super finiky ... they crack a lot in the nipple holes and the breaking surface too, like really really fast ... hubs are great ! i think they are even ratchet

[@marcusdance5068]

Colnago c68 now in rim brake! Well done Colnago

[@tonictones]

You seem to ride that Tarmac SL8 quite a bit to hate it so much lol. Get on that Giant TCR again!

[@durianriders]

I ride a different bike every day of the month. Takes me almost 3 months to get back to the start of the fleet again.

[@samuelfawdry6411]

I still ride rim brakes all the people and friends I know went to disc I am still ride rim brakes spin to win up the climbs

[@Graveryl]

Hello Harley. I've started following your advice on nutrition a few weeks ago. I have a question: is it low enough fat if I'm eating fruit during the day, rice at night (sometimes with red beans, greens, veggies or just plain rice with some hot sauce) and in the morning I have cereals with white sugar. The cereals I currently like are Kelloggs' Special K. They're 1,3g of fat per 100. Is that too much? Thank you for your honest and truthful guidance in this world of lies and misinformation.

[@Graveryl]

(I apologize for the double post. I wanted you to see my question, so I commented both on your latest vid and on your latest nutrition-themed vid.)

[@idea1511]

i tried a TCR with disc brakes. It was not what it once was. It was sluggish -- pr2 wheels to blame? IDK but too much $$$

[@logohigh1]

How many bikes does it take to fill a junk yard

[@kevinbourke4038]

@@logohigh1 Depends on the size of the yard, I suppose. We have big back yards.

[@michaelhawthorne4315]

I thought he hated the sl8

[@bigunitcyling]

At the high end of the sport where the riders weight are 66 to 78 kg weight matters. All this marketing about heavy aerodynamics trumps weight is true for me but the pros it matters. That’s why you see them unloading gels and waterbottles on the queen 👸stages. Don’t believe me ask professional TDF rider Guillaume Martin😛

[@steveco1800]

A disc rotor makes the front end unstable from crosswinds 😂😂😂 No, it has no leverage to the fork and is tiny.

[@durianriders]

Bro you ride a downhill bike in the forest where there is no wind 😆 You DON’T own a light road disc bike and ride it in windy conditions. Your opinion has no weight here as you can’t talk from experience.

[@steveco1800]

@@durianriders You’re trolling me. You don’t know me, I have plenty of experience. You would have a more convincing argument by saying more spokes in the front wheel needed for a disc wheel catch crosswinds more. The rim depth has a much greater effect in crosswinds.

[@Albin111]

I ride with Deep section rim brake rims for the aero wank factor!! Bomb a hill and meet you at the cafe!! Lol

[@51249ca]

Title doesnt apply to new full suspension mountain bikes.

[@jered2177]

Haaarley

[@EmanuelFuchs]

Can you send me the SL2 to Austria please. So 300€ included shipping if that's ok for you. Or you come here and visit me and ride some real mountain pass. Your hills must get boring at some point. Thanks

[@matthewludman1912]

Check Chris Millers latest chat for some truths about modern bikes from a couple of guys who can actually ride reasonably fast .

[@durianriders]

Give us the TLDR summary.

[@matthewludman1912]

Summary is that you're delusional if you think an older rim brake bike is quicker on anything other than a long steep climb which is the only riding we ever see you doing at a reasonable pace ......

[@csarcpab]

If I ever were to build a modern disk brake frameset I'd go with an Aliexpress SL8 frame one 😆 reviews so far coming show great build quality and performance

[@durianriders]

Anything with cables that go thru the bars and steerer is NOT built properly 😆❤️

[@hcw199]

They promoted discs because they want to sell carbon wheels. Rim brakes do destroy rims over time.

[@durianriders]

Yeah if you use the wrong pads lol.

[@ricardoubo8947]

Wake-up to Reality ! Disc-brake bikes with 30 mm tires and low pressures are setting New Record Speeds in Grand Tours and UCI Races in 2024 ! BTW I ride a Rim Brae Bike !

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

Is it disc bikes with 30mm tyres or super juiced riders?

[@sotracycling8945]

I ride 64mm deep wheels inwindy norway, i have never been as fast as i am om disc brake with 30mm tires!

[@durianriders]

134w FTP might be fast for you but… 💯😆