Why most CG metal looks fake

Metal release: blog.poliigon....
Most people are creating metal shaders the wrong way. There's actually no diffuse - it's 100% gloss. Yet most texture sites still offer them?
Check out the new metal materials on Poliigon to see the difference.
Metal tutorials will be posted here soon!
CC Music:
Sneaky Snitch - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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[@gabumonboys]

Did I just watch an advertisement?

[@ayylmaotv]

ya sure did pal

[@khorps4756]

I enjoyed the advertisement

[@Jeyricho]

I was waiting for the "skip this advert" button to come up for 2 whole minutes. Then the video ended.

[@lifelesshawk5725]

Epetra I thought it was an informational video, but it was just a shitty ad.

[@RRJOfficial]

@@Jeyricho You are fucking stupid or liar.

[@CaptainAlliance]

I can't believe I've just voluntarily watched an almost 2 minute-long ad. EDIT: I can't believe I've just gotten 2.5k likes for pointing out the obvious.

[@heisvi9317]

Evi1M4chine what? You know you can upload ads onto KZbin right? Just down vote and leave

[@expressrobkill]

i thought this would be a breakdown on the problems with cgi in film, he didn't actually explain the problems.

[@hecko-yes]

Evi1M4chine Mass advertisement isn't a thing you can report for (I checked), and blocking the user only makes them unable to comment on your videos (which they won't do anyway).

[@user-zu1ix3yq2w]

Haha. I've found you again, Evi1M4chine.

[@tand0r]

Yes, you can. It's a subcategory of spam when reporting a video.

[@Sean-kp6pi]

For years he's provided us with some of the best Blender tutorials on KZbin for free. Suddenly everyone wants to complain that he's plugging his business. 40 cents per material is pretty darn cheap considering all the work that goes into scanning them and then editing them so they can easily be tiled without looking repetitive as well as the different maps. You either pay for the convenience of having someone else do the work or you make them yourself.

[@AnonymousFrogNG]

The tutorials are free, the *tools* are not. Can't use the free tutorials UNLESS you pay for the tools

[@mihaelkardum8000]

Actually he doesn't scan them textures are made whit substance designer whit no camera

[@nomad7196]

@@AnonymousFrogNG There's so many tutorials on his channel that don't need new tools besides the ones blender gives you and a few free add-ons though.

[@lxlyzd]

@@AnonymousFrogNG His tutorials (or any other one) do not need Poliigon assets to work, there are many websites that offer free textures and materials if you want to mess around and learn. Poliigon only offers resources so that you can make you scenes look better and more realistic if you want something more serious and professional. Quality is not free.

[@ysvry]

@@lxlyzd same as that oldest profesion bs, "Quality is not free." thats what hookers and other materialists say jezus saves you for free and thats utmost quality! :P

[@pixelasm]

love those short explanatory videos covering the basics

[@grandmage1925]

You mean Adverts?

[@pixelasm]

LOL but if the ad is well done I got to admit I like to watch them too, guess this is a motiondesigner´s thing though :P

[@wowza935]

+dixelasm if u can recognize it as an ad, it's not done well.

[@TheDutyPaid]

No it needs to be 30 minutes long with just typing into a box! Like it has always been done.

[@JorgetePanete]

pixelasm explanatory*

[@othmaneeljacfi3747]

ok got it no diffuse only gloss, thanks for the tips

[@jakubvlcej6848]

There are no tutorials in the description :/

[@rown4739]

Site is created by Blender Guru and tutorial are in video section of Poliighon KZbin channel.

[@poliigonofficial]

+Jakub Vlcej sorry guys! The links will be posted here soon. We're still in the process of recording them.

[@redcatjack]

Still no tutorials yet...

[@memespdf]

Uh hello?

[@Quarker]

BREAKING NEWS: still no tutorials

[@unfa00]

Are you tired of your metal shaders looking fake? Glossy BSDF doesn't seem to give it the right weight? Call now! For only $99,99 you can get our hand-crafted premium-quality textures that'll make you metals shine!" Sorry, I couldn't resist...

[@tactical_slime4608]

*looks at price *fucking explodes

[@penitent2401]

it's $144 per year for cheapest price which gives only lower resolutions, for the premium quality it's $216 per year. $1560/yr for their enterprise version. really pricey for some shaders

[@BastianHyldahlFilms]

I'd gladly for pay $216 for a year of free HI-RES textures. Most of these aren't available anywhere else. And the other free PBR materials I have seen were pretty bad. Might be a bit pricey, but consider this: You get access to everything, including all shaders to ever be released. Just download them in a few different resolutions once, and save them in the cloud and you've got shaders forever.

[@FinalDriveGame]

Can literally grab a picture with your phone of a piece of metal you'd like to replicate with minimal light interference and throw it in gimp and make it tileable 100% for free. Then make bump, normal, roughness, any other map from that tiled image Well minus the cost of whatever you use to take the picture.

[@wingboy0]

99 likes lmao

[@EnderIzzy124]

Blender Guru: The man who can make even something like an ad interesting and help you learn something.

[@yenfu7039]

You forgot put your website on your youtube channel so people cant access poligons materials :V

[@SaHaRaSquad]

If someone can't find the website via Google the real problem lies somewhere else.

[@fungustmaster]

well if you're gonna advertise a website put a link in the description duhh

[@DiscoDerpAnimations]

Not Important this isn't even meant to be entertainment

[@haloblackops117]

Not Important You do realize that not every KZbin video has to be entertaining?

[@123spill90]

U n i m p o r t a n t lol

[@PedroVencore]

Im venezuelan and probably would never be able to touch a good pc here, but oh boy, these ultra realistics rendering are beautiful, I just cant stop watching

[@ArthurAsPedras]

I'm from Brazil but I feel your pain bro :(

[@grabliblu]

Hope you'll find or catch some opportunities one day!

[@aki_gong6271]

The secret is using an energy conserving material...if you aren't using one or your software doesn't have one, then you need to mimic it using ramps on gradient based on camera angle in order to get a Fresnel effect. To finish just add some curves in compositing to give it it's final black and white point. Hope it helps :)

[@johnnyfavorite1194]

The Exo Suit in District 9 looked perfect. They actually sampled lighting from the actual filming locations, which was what made the thing so realistic.

[@TischHolz]

I NEED SOME MONEY : (

[@mohammadtalha7276]

well i need alots of money

[@oh-noe]

Tisch Holz go ask uncle Scrooge

[@vaas444]

Tisch Holz Whats ur Paypal, Ill send u 30 bucks

[@djdisleksik2119]

vaas444 there needs to be more people like you on this earth

[@SrChalice]

vaas444 can you send me a career instead. I rather learn how to fish so I can keep eating on my own 😂 I'm tired of working for idiots, always wanted to do my own business...

[@WanJieMing]

I can't believe I've just voluntarily watched an almost 2 minute-long ad. I thought my adblock was off

[@bbvenancio]

That water pipe made literally my jaw drop. That is some DEAM GOOD WORK!

[@privategramcracker01]

There's no dethklok playing in the background. 0/10 Not metal enough.

[@liquidpotato365]

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[@pixelveteran]

SO STRONG. MY FACE IS.

[@liquidpotato365]

YOU PUNCH. BREAK FINGERS.

[@nown2012]

liquidpotato365 KICK ME. YOU'RE LIMPING.

[@liquidpotato365]

STAB ME. YOU'RE BLEEDING.

[@Farrowstrike]

how about not using shit reflections that have literally nothing to do with the surrounding environment? i always see shit like that in games, where the reflection map is just some stupid low res piece of shit where the image is the same wherever you look.

[@TheSockNapper]

Farrowstrike Numbani point A windows

[@markwatson3248]

BRUH Ikr? Remember Watch_Dogs, the first one? There's these windows that have a highway reflection in them, but the surrounding around is a parking lot... why have the fake reflection in the first place!?

[@niccy266]

That explains why the diffuse map of the brushed metal texture I downloaded was just black, although it still doesn't look right

[@MalcolmCooks]

0:54 is incredible

[@Sha.ll0w]

Came for an explanation, got an advertisement of "why I should buy this stupid textures" Honestly the knights armor was the worst example since it already looked good w/o texture.

[@JordanSullivanadventures]

I have no idea why youtube recommended this; I have never used any rendering software. BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

[@glitchysoup6322]

Did I just watched ad?

[@h3egypt]

Glitchy Soup yes but it's not a normal ad it's for the cgi community on youtube... the stuff in it is very relevant to their work.. i love the textures i download from his website saved me a ton of money and effort.. to me he's a blessing cause where I'm from it's impossible to pass by this stuff and that good

[@kevinjohansson3923]

watch*

[@bushgreen260]

Just dont make it so glossy, shiny and clean

[@snotellekS]

wow a video that actually gets to the fucking point instead of 10 mins of filler and 1 min of actual info. bravo

[@The12sunflowers]

its paid? i can manually make such material without money and this is more useful for understanding

[@michno4323]

You'll get to a point where you see how inefficient it is to make everything youself.

[@JayJapanB]

Professional work we buy anything that doesn't need to be made and for personal/practice/hobby work I just make pretty much everything from scratch. Learning: Do as much as you can. Professional: Do as much as you need. No point making something generic for a professional project when it is cheaper to buy it. (Or free on Substance Share) You just have to be able to justify it though. You don't want a project looking generic or inconsistent as a whole.

[@ABaumstumpf]

22$ gets you 300 'credits' a month. A material has ~5-6 textures and each textures costs 1 credit. So you can get like 50 materials/month. That means a material costs you about 40 cents - not bad.

[@svampebob007]

40 cents is still to much considering that if you look at the right places you'll most likely find some free to use textures. Open source/p2p > p2w. I'd gladly support projects, but most of the digital market is grossly overpriced considering that all they do is send a few bits to your computer, unlike physical products that do require time and physical labor to go from place A to B. inb4 Electricity, if I can move a couple of TB a month without breaking the bank then a couple of donations here and there from a wide group of people could easily pay for business class internet and servers, and you could still go for P2P files on your site... requiring little to no cost on internet or servers. and The original artist isn't touching a cent from those profits. This is just my personal opinion, and I'm obviously very biased towards Torrents and Open source.

[@Conman123Official]

+svampebob007 "all they do is send a few bits to your computer, unlike physical products that do require time and physical labor to go from place A to B." So you're telling me that whenever you buy anything, all you pay for is shipping costs? Everything is free to make, you just need to pay a few dollars to ship it to you, right? ...

[@t-rex2645]

i don't know why this appeared in my recommendations but i'm going back to the new stone age album

[@jepoyburner]

didn't mind that it was basically a 2 minute ad. that was informative.

[@oguzkaanaybak]

Started as an educational video and ended as an ad.

[@brokenchair853]

What a clever way to implement an ad into a video.

[@letmepukeinyourmouth8520]

I just got tricked into watching an ad. That's proper advertising right here.

[@neskah_]

Hold shit, those look... Really, really good. God damn. I don't even do animation or rendering, this video was recommended. Still glad I watched.

[@kirax2996]

LMAO I literally just clicked this to watch an ad. I mean I'm not mad about it

[@240garchive]

People:Did I watched an AD? Also me: Did I watch an AD too?

[@ccs8847]

I never would or thought I would voluntarily watch a 2 minute ad that I actually enjoyed

[@PhoenixClank]

So this was basically an informative advertisement.

[@thetaai8262]

Hey, I like the "fake CGI metal" look

[@jadenfarquhar4577]

my problem is that whenever I apply a gloss shader, it doesn't look nearly as good as that knight armor you had, even without the scratches and smudges. It ends up just looking like an ugly mirror if I do low roughness or a straight diffuse when I do high roughness

[@heyitsmejm4792]

have you tried applying it on the principled shader??

[@Hwyadylaw]

What rendering engine?

[@BastianHyldahlFilms]

Make sure you use cycles if you're in Blender.

[@martinn5626]

Jaden Farquhar Add Lightning

[@ProGamer1115]

Wow, nice clickbait bro. This is basically just an ad for your website. SAD!

[@tactical_slime4608]

I only watched to see the diffrence between diletric and metal and then closed the video when the ads came :T

[@creemyice]

Cant_Hit_This7 actually you can use cgtexutes.com it is almost as good as it

[@ourladypeace3]

Cant_Hit_This7 You’re joking, right

[@thekkl]

I'm ok with this being an ad. If ad's need to exist for me to have free videos, the best kind of ads are the ones that teach me something interesting in the process.

[@Dent42]

Rust AND oxidization?! Be still, my beating heart!

[@ReasonMakes]

I really dislike that all of this was made so you could sell maps. Feels manipulative. Interesting info at the start of the video though

[@lethn2929]

Finally, youtube recommends me something genuinely interesting and useful.

[@kingraptor11]

This is just an ad, I bet those textures are easy to find anyway

[@SaxPanther]

0:00 Okay maybe it's some new alternative to PBR? Because PBR makes great metal and everyone knows that 1:00 Ohhh... it's an advertisement. Great.

[@iLikeTheUDK]

Most CG metal uses roughness maps. It's one of the most common PBR textures. Pure clickbait.

[@EliteRocketBear]

It just showcases he either doesnt know what he is talking about, or is manipulating beginners into believing he does.

will poliigon become free in the future?

[@mikkohyyti]

Is that a serious question?

a lot of services become free because of the number of user like UNITY, Unreal Engine 4 etc why not poliigon

for this reason that i said"in the future?"

[@mmmaxxx__]

I doubt it. The money put into this is a lot

[@heisvi9317]

Evi1M4chine WTF are you talking about? The laws of physics have nothing to do with this. You also know nothing about copyright law.

[@enriquepadilla2542]

This is great. Makes me wish i made videos just to use these new features

[@diadokhoi5722]

So if this website is paid I am gonna wait for all the materials to come out and then I will download them with my free trial

[@Robbe1912]

to prevent that sites like this one have a credit system.

[@SaHaRaSquad]

You'll wait a really long time if you first want "all the materials" to come out.

[@BastianHyldahlFilms]

And you only get 1K if you're a free member. Not a problem for small textures, but stuff like grounds and HDRI maps are not good in low res.

[@l.clevelandmajor9931]

To get realistic looking metal using any render engine, you must know the formula that render engine likes. Sounds a bit strange, I know, but each render engine has its own way of doing what it does. Because of this, materials will act differently for different render engines, and the greatest difference is metal materials. So my advice is to look at the render engines used in the applications you use. Next, do a search for instructions on how to formulate a simulation of realistic metals for that render engine. Follow that tutorial to the letter. I use several different programs to do my 3D art, and I have found that each render engine that those programs use work different from each other. Example: DAZ Studio comes with two different render engines, the 3Delight engine, and the Iray engine. Both work differently from each other. The Iray engine supposedly does photo realistic renders, but if you know what you are doing using the 3Delight engine, you can get photo realistic looking renders out of it also, Just know that what works in one, will not always work in the other.

[@TyLianti]

this guy sounds like the blender guru.

[@Turkish400]

"Why most CG metal looks fake"...because it isn't real. You're welcome

[@amask4360]

My profile picture represents the stupidity of your comment.

[@PACKERMAN2077]

Your profile picture represents the exasperation of your reply. wait I read that wrong

[@justdandy5934]

Boboturk give this guy a medal... or wait... a .. METAL 👌

[@KinghtofZero00]

You can make fake things look real with effort...

[@Ang3lUki]

lmao @ salty gen Xer film buff who remembers the "good ol days"

[@andgalactus1]

Haha love that you start with the teapot.

[@AimlessMoto]

Did I just get suckered by an advertisement? Goddamn it.

[@raihanadhitya378]

When ads figured youtube algorithm

[@TsubasaJPEN]

And your comment deserves more likes.

[@liquid4762]

I love how straightforward this is. "Why do CG metals look fake? Deffuse, fuck you, that's why. Have an example."

[@kyubayas]

It's 2 am and I'm watching this. What am I doing with my life.

[@hashbrownz1999]

I don't do 3D rendering. I don't plan to. This video doesn't apply to me in any way whatsoever, but i had to watch it.

[@mag_and]

This is the most correct workflow of making realistic metal textures. However, it's not true that metal does not refract light at all. By this statement it's wrongfully implied that the more reflective the metal is the more 'real' it is, which of course is not true - or at least very inaccurate.

[@ironleegaming8227]

This is amazing. I wish I was still working on 3d modelling. This would have been amazing when making knives

[@OktoPutsch]

Very nice initiative, :) BUT it will never cover something most 3D painter artists keep to ignore : every object, has its own way to wear ^^ ... And it's very common to observe misplaced traces of wearing at wrong places over a rendered CGI object despite the very good looking of a picture, at first sight, our brain always knows that something remains wrong, artificial.

[@geometrican1330]

Lmaoo I had no idea this was an ad, thanks for the usable information.

[@somebody9112]

"Metal tutorials will be posted here soon! " - gonna be every day now, bois.

[@Solvernia]

"Why fake stuff looks fake" Hmmm

[@SilverSpoon_]

hey i saw a few of my stock metal textures I posted on DeviantART! I used them myself, but in 2D art. and actually, not metal objects.

[@proxy1035]

wait this was just an ad... i thought i was gonna get an indepth video

[@SilentFox.]

Why is this in my recomendet list, i have no idea about this stuff ;_:

[@UnchainedEruption]

Why did this ad come in my home page?

[@occultCapra]

Thanks for making this i love you

[@jollygoodshow]

That looks like a tonne of leg work! Great looking metal!

[@Geoxor]

Poliigon. the cymatics of GFX

[@gamer-lo7vl]

Make a tutorial on how to create those maps in substance designer

[@gvuprise1465]

WOW thank you so much Andrew. :)

[@Zi7ar21]

Radical Sanding? How did you guys even get that to work with textures!

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Thanks for the tip, it's gonna be quite helpful for my uni work this year, and I'm sure I'll sub your service if 'm doing something that allows for assets like this because damn those look beautiful.

[@mattbroder2009]

The movie Cars did a sick job with this though

[@ReznovRulz]

Matt Broder cars have painted metal which is partly diffuse.

[@InimitableVLog]

Very clever use of memes!

[@mirrorama]

noobenstein *What*

[@chrisbadiou1407]

Watch out guys, edgy 12 year old white kid is lurking about

[@rasilu93]

Maybe people who don't complain much about their situation are generally liked more than people who blame everyone else for their misfortune...

[@GostodePiscina]

+noobenstein wth are you talking about

[@GostodePiscina]

+noobenstein ooo NOW i understand why people don't like you

[@kenmasters8540]

Almost 3 years later and the metal tutorials are still not done, but the store is working perfectly! Crazy how that works isnt it? :)

[@CarthagoMike]

one of the more interesting advertisements I have seen

[@Chrizzx3]

I have no idea why I am watching this.

[@styraxgum]

they forget the blastbeats

[@Cr381v3]

true metal = 100 gloss? Yes, metal does not refract light, meaning that the metal is opaque and wont cause the light to go through and light up the material itself like plastic for example. But this does not mean that you should use 100% gloss all the time, unless you want everything to look like chrome.. The surface of the metal can still be uneven, for example brushed aluminium. To get this look you can not use 100% gloss.. get your facts right! Gloss = how even or uneven the surface is (microsurface). Diffuse = light spreading inside the material

[@nicosoftnt]

You begin like if you will reveal a secret, like you are making a tutorial, and suddenly you are like (You want it?, BUY IT!) And you still got those likes! Hahahahaha people are more stupid than I thought.

[@Calico_Crow]

I feel like I would have watched this video if I knew what it was actually going to be, but... I came here to hear some bizarre reason that rendering metals in 3D was particularly hard, and what countermeasures you gotta take to get around it and shit. You don't have to lie to me to try to be cool, Poliigon. I thought you were cool all along. Just be yourself.

[@cannonfodder4000]

Damn I've never been interested in making 3D art until now

[@NotASpyReally]

I'm not gonna buy your stuff because I'm poor, but man how do I enjoy your videos. Everything's so beautiful! XD

[@tactical_slime4608]

*finds a way to pirate it

[@0ceanvibes407]

So basically cash 4 copper.

[@elia04_]

Can i use them in Unity or UE4

[@unconnected]

Did you make this video in 2012 and forget to publish it until now or something? Diffuse / Gloss hasn't been used as a standard in the industry for close to 1/2 a decade now.

[@DandragonDe]

watch till 1:00 - then its an Advertisment to buy there materials. Materials everyone can buy and everyone uses. Why not buy a finished moddel then? Yeah i know this is exaggerating but im sick of those lecture videos turning out to wanna sell me something!

[@ManiacX1999]

This is really helpful, thank you so much!

[@AverageAlien]

2017, where people complain because CGI is a few pixels different from real life

[@m_noway]

You can also color correct your diffuse map to get a roughness map? Isn't that hard, it's like 1 minute work max

[@HarmonicGrunt]

look's good to me.

[@MiiikeeeHuuunt]

"links to tutorials in the description".... You sure?

[@paistinlasta1805]

"Why most CG metal looks fake" Explains how CG metail is made realistic, then advertises their selection of metal textures.

[@Novanim]

Wait where's the payoff? That's the payoff? The video suddenly stopped after the advertisement and there was no analysis nor examples of the first statement :(

[@ebertfr]

u god

[@punman5392]

I thought this was gonna be about Metal music

[@JakobTheCenturion]

"...True metal is one hundred percent gloss"? Does that mean that glam rock is the only true metal? ;) (Def Leppard, KISS, et cetera.) I'm joking, don't crucify me. I love metal in general (not the material), rock, whatever.

[@schitlipz]

I was gonna say, WHA?! Because metal CGI is something I'm actually impressed with. And I'm a guy who hates CGI. So, since I'm a complainer... my worst complaint about CGI is mouths.