Why Most Maps of France Are Wrong

[@EmperorTigerstar]

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[@WuffiePhoenix]

For anyone wondering how he managed to comment 13 hours ago, when the video is only an hour old: you can put a video on unlisted, comment yourself and then schedule the video to come out later, and it'll save the comment.

[@concept5631]

I had heard about Gabon wanting to stay a French territory but wasn't able to find out more about it. Thanks for satiating my curiousity Tigerstar, you're a real one.

[@robertjarman3703]

6:58 Why is Czechoslovakia not united?

[@oooshafiqooo]

my school has map of france which looked beautiful

[@QuizmasterLaw]

France is way bigger than the metropole (aka hexagon can) but did you know there are still French noble titles? There are! In Quebec. Some French noble titles still exist in Quebec, unlike France.

[@MrPromethee]

Fun fact: Djibouti became an overseas territory in 1967, then fully independent in 1977. However, the (vacant) seat for Djibouti in the French Senate continued to exist for 26 years because no one bothered to change the electoral laws to remove it, until 2003.

[@Freedmoon44]

"Just in case"

[@franzfanz]

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing later.

[@StuffandThings_]

They just couldn't get over loosing Djibouti it seems

[@rin_etoware_2989]

no one wants to sit on Djibouti

[@warlordofbritannia]

Sounds like France, ngl

[@codywebb3610]

Fun fact: because of this, France’s largest international Border is with Brazil

[@shinsenshogun900]

A big bordering neighbor, that one goes to Spain

[@Spacey_key]

And they have a border with the netherlands

[@rin_etoware_2989]

additional detail: the France-Brazil border is 730 km long, while the second-longest is the France-Spain one, at 623 km. and it's also worth pointing out that the France-Spain border is interrupted 3/4 of the way through by Andorra, so it might actually be the case that France's second-longest (uninterrupted) border is with Belgium, at 620(?) km.

[@Spacey_key]

@@jimihendrix991yes they have en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Martin%E2%80%93Sint_Maarten_border Maybe you should follow your own advice

[@briouck1964]

Actually not its with... Australia ! From Antartica, because Australia claims both the east and west territories of Terre Adélie

[@the_feedle]

The "correct map of France" is much more common in french textbooks

[@jean-raouldu2918]

Yeah but it's call France métropolitaine

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Just like the "correct map of USA" is much more common in the USA.

[@Delightfully_Witchy]

Basically, France doesn't get points for getting it's own map right. That said, I wonder if it's more correct in Canada. I can even see the United Kingdom getting it right because they were old rivals.

[@John_the_Paul]

Real shocker there

[@ashtremble]

Real shocker

[@japust]

I love how in the 5th republic they basically gave their colonies 3 options: 1: be part of France 2: be kinda part of France 3: be just a little bit part of France

[@pharell366]

la démocratie

[@DehydratedDarkness]

The illusion of free choice

[@garlicxi]

France really just cannot give up their leftover territories overseas.

[@sandwich6284]

@@garlicxi or maybe because we feel french and want to stay french smh...

[@rito6491]

​@@garlicxi Those want to stay french tho

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Context for why Mayotte voted to remain French: Mayotte was French MUCH longer than the rest of the Comoros. Mayotte was purchased by France in 1841 from Andriantsoly, former king of Iboina in Madagascar and became a Maore sultan in 1832 (though this wouldn't last as the island was conquered by neighboring sultanates before he returned in 1836). He let the French have it because by the time he returned, the island was weak against its neighbors, depopulated, and unfortified. Looking for an ally, he chose the French. And the French repopulated and developed the land with sugar, until two cyclones went through, and they started from scratch, redeveloping and replacing sugar with other crops like vanilla and coffee. The rest of the islands on the other hand didn't join French Madagascar until 1908, and it wasn't until 1912 that the last sultanate (Grande Comore) abdicated. So thus, Mayotte has more of a cultural link to France. Even though Mayotte doesn't want to be a part of the Comoros nation, the Comoros has a white stripe and a star to represent the island on their flag.

[@bonhommierr1501]

Fun facts : the Comoros want Mayotte back, and have the backing of the African Union ANd the UN, which officially considers Mayotte a colonized territory. Also, "Comoros" comes from the Arabic "al-Qamar", "the Moon", and "Mayotte" is a French/Swahili pronunciation of the Arabic "al-Mawt", "Death", because of the dreadful coral reefs surrounding the islands (navigational hazard). Also, Mayotte is the only French department that has a majority Muslim population, and which tolerated Sharia law and islamic Qadis until 2011, and the only French department where the majority languages are two African languages, Shimaoré and Kibushi (no, it's not Seine-Saint-Denis). Also, I'm running out of fun facts about Mayotte.

[@mecha-sheep7674]

@@bonhommierr1501 Another way of saying it is that Mayotte has been the target of many invasions from the Comoros sultanate and their inhabitants are the survivors of nearly genocidal raids. Suffice to say, there is a LOT of bad blood between them and the Mahorais are very hostile to the idea. Nonetheless, they are slowly being submerged by illegal immigration from the Comoros and are probably already a minority in their home island, while being subjected to increasing violences by criminal gangs. Life is becoming very hard. In the future, I guess the citizens of Mayotte will have to flee to La Réunion or metropolitan France, and the Comoros will get the island.

[@bonhommierr1501]

@@mecha-sheep7674 Yes, I'm aware... I'm not sure how much most Mahorais know about the early 19th century history of their island, but for the rest I agree. And the response of mainland French authorities is... practically nonexistent. It's basically posturing and finger-crossing. What really bummed me recently is realizing that social allocations and subsidies are not granted on an equal footing with other overseas departements and the mainland... and that for many key administrative services Mayotte has to lean on the La Reunion prefectoral services. Which is rather stupid given that La Reunion is literally on the other side of Madagascar.

[@Nikioko]

@@bonhommierr1501 Yes, the Union of the Comoros claims Mayotte as their territory, but the inhabitants of Mayotte don't want to belong to the Comoros. No wonder, since Mayotte's GDP per capita is 10 times higher than the one of the Comoros. And France is a democratic country, while the Comoros are an authoritarian country with little freedom of speech.

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

@@mecha-sheep7674 It says something when you would rather be French than join the Comoros…

[@alexross1816]

France: "Mother France loves all her children. They mustn't leave until they are ready." Gabon: "Even me?" France: "Mother France loves most of her children."

[@chikkynuggy7522]

We also has tried to get rid of French Guyana a couple of times because T̷̶h̷̶e̷̶y̷̶ ̷̶a̷̶r̷̶e̷̶ ̷̶ a̷̶n̷̶ ̷̶e̷̶c̷̶o̷̶n̷̶o̷̶m̷̶i̷̶c̷̶a̷̶l̷̶ ̷̶ b̷̶u̷̶r̷̶d̷̶e̷̶n̷̶ colonialism is bad

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@@chikkynuggy7522 💀

[@kaasai6398]

@@chikkynuggy7522 welp now we have a good opportunity in the form of a space station

[@CaliRed1865]

2:38 today I found a new way to pronounce metropolitan

[@Atilla_the_Fun]

Megamind: Ollo

[@ommsterlitz1805]

it's the right way though

[@dahkohtaah]

@@ommsterlitz1805 it is not

[@Some1ne]

MeTROpolitain lol someone doesn't order a lot of metroPOlitans 😛

[@agbook2007]

2:38 hurt my ears 👎

[@matoas7102]

As a Spanish I hate when they forgot the canarys island, is alredy a meme at this point

[@mr.spaghettiarms1473]

Spaniard would be more grammatically correct

[@pocketmarcy6990]

That’s even worse since the canaries have been under Spanish rule for some 600 years at this point

[@igorokinamujika2073]

@@mr.spaghettiarms1473 No, spanish is also accepted. In fact some spanish get mad about the therm "spaniard" and what they seem to be a misuse of "spanish".

[@13gan]

@@mr.spaghettiarms1473 Technically its a traditional in English term for Spanish (has been since before the Elizabethan era) and both are accepted today. Chinaman and Mahommedan though didn't quite survive.

[@mr.spaghettiarms1473]

@@igorokinamujika2073 it still sounds not right spanish person would sound better

[@NicCageCDXX]

Two fun facts, courtesy of Guyane being a forgotten part of France: France's longest land border is with Brazil The EU's largest national park is in South America

[@francoise4678]

.. and the European Space Agency spaceport is there too

[@mateomartinbegue]

@@francoise4678 French Spaceport actually. Kourou base belongs to CNES (Centre National d'Études Spatiales) and not to ESA (European Space Agency), but most of the EU's rockets, in addition to the French ones, are launched from there.

[@francoise4678]

@@mateomartinbegue Thanks for this precision

[@Haidouk-kw6ds]

Let's add that some communes in Senegal were integrally french at some point. Saint Louis and Gorée from 1872, Rufisque from 1880, Dakar from 1887. They had full citizenship, sent a deputy for the french parliament. Before even being made communes, inhabitants of St Louis and Gorée were already made citizens of France... Since 1792. They remained like that until Senegalese independance

[@the_chosen_one5642]

They forget French Guiana, the most important part of France.

[@erikweiguny7565]

3:01

[@dr.vikyll7466]

It is a little funny that the European Space Agency launches its rockets from South America

[@robinmetge]

@@dr.vikyll7466 but logical. Launching rockets from équatorial land is more efficient and economic

[@l3-33]

I'm french and i can assure you french Guyana is very important just for the ZEE

[@gabilax2745]

@@l3-33 EEZ not ZEE, also Guyana doesnt bring à huge EEZ, French Polynesia is far more important in this regard

[@pepperonipizzaily]

I'm from Reunion island and I've always been surprised that a lot of people online think we're colonies. A lot of people in the island are very proud to be French, more than in mainland France. The region/department also benefits from a lot of social help from the country and the EU, I think it's the one that gets most of it. So people (except from a tiny tiny part) don't want independence. Independence would bring down the standards of living quite low as we wouldn't be self-sustainable.

[@cosmicwfnf3449]

Many country asked to be french, even algeria, but you know, surfing the french bashing wave for money is more rewarding

[@pepperonipizzaily]

@@cosmicwfnf3449 I mean they can bash us, we're not losing our power overseas because of some videos online

[@MrTrees-nd1pi]

@@pepperonipizzaily you have an interesting perspective that I thought most people would agree with but I think nationalism gets in the way for most things rather than what you benefit from being controlled by a European power

[@cosmicwfnf3449]

@@MrTrees-nd1pi France wet Dream from DeGaulle was France to be the leader of Europe ... I think we will Never get out of it ...

[@OpenCorridor-en3ox]

These are not colonies, their inhabitants are French citizens endowed with the same rights and duties, and rules by the same laws. They contribute a lot to France as a whole.

[@Lo-opss]

Colonies are not simply defined by the citizenry of it's inhabitants

[@SofaKingGasPriceSpike]

Bíblically accurate France

[@francoise4678]

"be not afraid" .... we won't attack you ???

[@StuffandThings_]

Wouldn't that just be Gaul?

[@Freedmoon44]

@@StuffandThings_ "belgium come here your existance is making problems with the Bible"

[@jackyoh971]

@@francoise4678 Funnier if you know France has military base in almost all of its colony so they can attack other from them. But be not afraid 😂

[@francoise4678]

@@jackyoh971 I'm not afraid, France won't attack me, I'm French

[@happyslappy5203]

Fun fact: in France you can find : 1,103,451 kilometres of various roads (national, departmental and municipal) 623,464 kilometres of rivers (428,906 km in mainland France + 182,093 km in Guyana + 12,466 km in overseas Depts) 312,000 bridges (266,000 road bridges + 46,000 railway bridges) + 28,000 kilometres of railways…. And 45,000 chateaux 😃

[@erikfreeman45]

I appreciate your confidence in me but if I go looking for them myself I doubt I can find hundreds of thousands of bridges!

[@lazicmudefabb5580]

@@erikfreeman45 wikipedia find the same numbers of bridges!

[@erikfreeman45]

@@lazicmudefabb5580 Well I don't know who that is but it doubt I could keep up to him. Very Wow!

[@volriver5845]

​@@erikfreeman45 wikipedia is a website lol

[@brewen_lmrch]

​​@@erikfreeman45 I guess most of those bridges exist so that departmental and regional roads can go over the highways and national roads. Those bridge are numerous and you can often see hundred of them just driving on the ring road of a big city.

[@jackyoh971]

As a Guadeloupean I learn nothing but I appreciate the work you've done I see no mistake except name pronunciation.

[@Clery75019]

It would have been good to emphasize the role played by Aimé Césaire and Léopold Sédar Senghor in the process of decolonization though. While Sédar Senghor wanted Senegal to go for independence, Césaire considered Martinique didn't have the resources to self-sustain itself and created the concept of "départementalisation" instead. So as weird as the concept of overseas department is to the rest of the world, the idea didn't come up from some colonial administration in Paris but by an elected representative of Martinique in the French Assembly.

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Pareil de Guyane

[@kaiserredgamer8943]

Portugal: Tried to have overseas provinces. France: Actually maintains overseas departments.

[@iakinose]

My french classroom always had maps ensuring the overseas departments were shown.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

7:30 Guess we're gonna ignore the fact that St. Pierre & Miquelon's EEZ looks like a bitten lollipop? 😂I just find St. Pierre & Miquelon fascinating as it's the last vestige of the once vast New France. This is because France had to give up New France to Britain after the Seven Years' War but Britain allowed them to have fishing rights off the Newfoundland coast and thus keep the islands. It's also the only place in North America that the guillotine was used, which happened in 1889 and inspired the 2000 movie The Widow of Saint-Pierre! Something else about St. Pierre & Miquelon is they actually considered joining the United States at one point in time in 1903 (because they were struggling with fisheries and emigration). Not to mention, they have a pretty cool unofficial flag (which for now is just the St. Pierre municipality's flag). It has the flags of the Bretons, Basques, and Normans to represent the people who settled there, and there's a yellow ship on a blue background called the Grande Hermine which brought explorer Jacques Cartier to the islands in June 1536.

[@rin_etoware_2989]

last vestige of New France, though arguably New France still exists in Quebec

[@uiopy1]

I actually just visited Saint-Pierre two weeks ago after a long trip across Canada and I can tell you for sure that the people of SPM are COMPLETELY different from their Québécois and Acadien neighbors, culturally and linguistically especially!

[@aperson1]

I'll admit, the nerd in me is bothered to no end that the different insets aren't appropriately scaled. I know it would be completely impractical, but having Mayotte depicted at the exact same scale as French Guyana stirs a quiet rage within my person.

[@Joridiy]

It might be impractical, but i'd wish maps could show overseas territories in the real size they are to avoid that thing where "the mainland/capital" gets the biggest chunk of map while the rest are all pilled up together in a small corner

[@ilianhube3220]

Emperor Tigerstar, if I may correct you, Mayotte became a French department not in 2009 but in 2011. 2009 was the year when a referendum was held to know if Mayotian people wanted Mayotte to become a French department. Even in France, not all the maps include overseas departments. More generally the historical and economical situation of the overseas departments is widely ignored in Metropolitan France even by our politician leaders. Our President Emmanuel Macron once said that French Guiana was an island...

[@francoise4678]

I remember that too 🤣🤣

[@deltame3264]

Macron is only here to help his friends make more money, he does not care about France

[@henkhenk7467]

When did Macron say that?

[@Clery75019]

Henri Salvador, a famous Guianese artist, often described Guyane as an island. That doesn't mean that he ignored the geography of Guyane, but was meant as a way to explain that Cayenne and Saint-Laurent du Maroni are so isolated by the thick Amazonian rainforest that they are "islands", just like the rest of the Caribbeans.

[@ilianhube3220]

@@henkhenk7467 on March 2017 during the electoral campaign when he visited the Reunion island.

[@avatarlhamo3063]

fun fact : My father is from a continental french region named franche-comté (free-county) and my mother is from La Réunion. The last one became french 36 years before the F-C so when people ask me what are my origins (not very subtly referring to my skin color) I say « franche-comté 😉 ». They go full 404 Error when I tell them because they think I have foreign origins

[@martinvlc_]

Really good video, as a Frenchie I really appreciate it! And I also really appreciate this comment section, where, for once, no one is trying to spit on France of the French. Also very cool sponsor, I'll definitely check that out!

[@mecha-sheep7674]

Note that Polynesia, Wallis & Futuna and New Caledonia also have the right to vote for the french elections, but they also have their own governments in addition.

[@Clery75019]

Indeed, because they are French citizens and as such the French constitution gives them the right of representation. What is bizarre is actually the status of people in Puerto Rico or Guam, as they are US citizens but aren't allowed to vote in the US nationwide elections.

[@rb026]

I'm french and half Algerian and I can say that this vid is quite accurate tbh and I really appreciate that. Little tips for your prononciation: In french 'E' r at the end of words r silent but otherwise it was pretty good for an english speaker tbh ! Also a vid about French colonisation of Algeria would be quite interesting imo and if u have any questions I would be glad to help anyways, I just discovered your channel keep it up mate !

[@elgrandefleau7359]

Actually as a frenchie you pronounced the department names quite well ! The only (little) mistake you did is that in french we generally don’t pronounce the e’s at the end of words, so the « Loupe » in Guadeloupe is pronounced « Loop », same for the « Yotte », it’s just « Yott ». But hey, I’m honestly still really happy just because you even talked about our weird « colonies » (as many people on the internet call them) and explained their real nature and brief history ^^

[@neodymus]

dude he could just have typed the departement name in google traduction and repeat what the robot says it would have taken literally 2 minutes Hopefully i'm pretty sure he just didn't know we could do that, nobody is THAT lazy

[@SuperSMT]

Yeah he was using the spanish pronunciation of guadeloupe

[@shrekatemyonions]

Many Americans unfortunately pronounce it as “guadelopay” like he did, yet weirdly I haven’t heard many people say Mayotte the same way

[@dragonrykr]

0:22 The National Geographic one doesn't even have Corsica! smh

[@happyslappy5203]

Fun fact: in the Northern Hemisphere, the remarkably unique latitude/longitude confluence point: 45°N 0°, where the Greenwich meridian and the 45th parallel north intersect. This point is situated in France, just 60 kilometres to the east of Bordeaux. 😄

[@Vin_San]

Hi, thank you sir to explain that 'overseas' department/county are not colony. They are French, they have French schools and degrees, the French laws apply, and more important, they have the same right to vote and have representation. Many place have vote to say "yes, we want to stay in France" except Vanuatu and the Comoros. Mayotte choose to stay French. But yes, we have still imperialist stuff, we have inhabited islands around Madagascar just to make them NOT having a good EEZ, and yes, that kind of behavior is colonialist-ish. And it's a shame that people in New Caledonia have been boycotting the referendum for they independence, because now politics are like "you said no to independence" while many people (but we don't know how many) want independence. If their is a single true colony to France now, it's French Guyana. Locals are treated like other 'native Americans' in USA and Canada, and we will never left this place because of the Kourou base. Most of Europeans satellites are launched from Kourou, it's vital to Europe independency. So, even if for exemple Bresilians start a war or an insurgency to steal Guyana, they will be kick off, and US + many Europeans country will help France. Maybe even the UK.

[@LeMediateur93]

Just to be more precise about New Caledonia : there were 3 referendums for independance or "full sovereignty" as we say here. only local people could vote, not "imported french" like me. 2 times they chose to keep the current status of autonomous territory. only once there was boycott. and i forget the past votes in the 80s and 90s. the strategic resource here are the nickel ore and a huge EEZ.

[@azr2.0]

Most french guianese are from european ancestry through, and during the 2017 protests the demands were more about greater integration to france rather than autonomy

[@warlordofbritannia]

The Algerian Crisis probably deserves a video of its own, if you’ve not made or are planning one.

Let's call it by its name. It was a war. The France talked about it for years as "Algerian events", what a euphemism !

[@cosmicwfnf3449]

I'll make it short Algeria wanted to be french when France asked her Extremist algerian ( FLN) - no France reacted badly Extremist won ( By idéologie, France won the War but loosed credits for the musulman community on the international scene to this day )

[@isaure4996]

​@@cosmicwfnf3449 Not you saying france asked algeria if they could colonize them😭 Musulman is a french word btw, it's "muslim" in english

[@frenchempire9471]

As france I can confirm

[@concept5631]

You certainly are France.

[@thecolorblue9609]

No way it’s France himself

[@pep-qew]

France Bottom text

[@rom5457]

I know him trust me he is France, je confirme.

[@putyourglasseson7985]

truly one of the France of all time

[@thomassghedoni4557]

Fun fact : The African country of Gabon actually asked to become a French "département" and therefore an integral part of France. But De Gaulle, at the time president, though it would be impossible to administer properly, and it would have meant integrating hundreds of thousands of black people as French citizens free to move to the mainland. He would not have that, so he just forced the independence just like the rest of the African colonies. A few years later, they discovered lots of oil and uranium, and I wonder if he would have changed his mind knowing this.

[@Toon_Topaz]

I appreciate the attempts at pronunciation lol But here's an important thing to remember: The -e at the end of French words are always silent, and only exist to indicate you should pronounce the consonant that precedes it And yes, if a word ends in a consonant it's almost always silent

[@AndrewPalmerMTL]

I didn't hear it explicitly addressed - are the overseas departments treated on a par with metropolitan France for things like EU rights, Schengen travel zone, etc.?

[@L.A.ismyname]

I believe most of these islands are outermost territories of the EU.

[@LeRectificateur]

For oversea department it the same as the mainland. However some territories have special status (like New Caledonia) and they are not necessarily part of EU or Schengen area.

[@biggibbs4678]

They are part of the EU and use the euro but they still have border control

[@EnigmaticLucas]

More-or-less yes

[@the_feedle]

Oversea departments are considered part of the EU. However, not all oversea territories/collectivities are part of it. Some even have their own currency. Today, New-Caledonia is the oversea territory that has the most autonomy

[@cush6827]

Take any Euro banknote. The reverse shows a map of Europe with all départements d'outre-mer.

[@BenjaminCherkassky]

3:20 Russia during the Cold War (and through to the modern day) stubbornly refused to decolonize or even really acknowledge that they were a colonial power in the first place. Regions such as the northern caucasus and north asia have been colonized by Russia since the 1600s (and sometimes even earlier). In the 1920s, a feeble attempt was made to encourage indigenous culture and language, and during the Soviet Union and Russian Federation, nominal autonomy was given, but even their small amount of self-governance is now being stripped away by Putin.

[@hijodeputa5450]

reddit moment. that has nothing or very little to do or with french colonialism. im a basque independentist and the same could be say about spain, but i would not label it as colonialism

[@BenjaminCherkassky]

@@hijodeputa5450 i would argue that Russian colonialism actually is quite similar to French colonialism. I do not know enough on the Basque region’s relationship with France and Spain to comment, but I do know that when Russia invaded north Asia, they set up colonial settlements like Yakutsk. The indigenous Sakha populations declined by around 70% due to various causes brought on by the Europeans, including small pox. In the modern day, 9 of the 10 poorest federal subjects of Russia are either in the Caucasus or in North Asia. Indigenous people from Buryatia are around 9x more likely to die in Ukraine, and are also more likely to be conscripted.

[@crusaderACR]

Source on self governance being stripped away?

[@ZelRaat]

As a rule of thumb, the "e" at the end of French words is silent unless it's indicated otherwise (such as with é, è, ê, or er).

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

No.

[@ZelRaat]

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 What do you mean "no"? I'm a native French speaker.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

@@ZelRaat Evidently not from Corsica or anywhere else in the south of France.

[@ZelRaat]

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 That much is true. I'm from northeastern France.

[@Siddingsby]

The longest land border of France is actually with Brazil.

[@TheYuccaPlant]

To be reeeaally accurate, you should also put those boxes to scale.

[@frigginjerk]

I think the Scots recently mandated that maps of the country not only include the Shetland islands, but also that they stay in the same frame as the mainland in order to accurately show their size and location-- no inset box allowed.

[@ProblematicToad]

@@frigginjerk It's worth pointing out this law only applies to maps in documents published by any Scottish public authorities. Even then, if they have a valid reason to do so they may put Shetland in a box

[@calmeilles]

Your pronunciation of Mayotte and Guadaloupe wasn't really bad French. It was more like really bad Spanish. 😀

[@sirxarounthefrenchy7773]

When your prononciation is so bad you butcher the prononciation of a totally different language

[@peoplesrepublicofliberland5606]

Funny How France is less Imperialistic than the USA considering how each treat their territories

[@elpito9326]

Nowadays imperialism is less about how you treat your own territories and more about how you abuse other countries for your own economic gain. And in that case, both France and the US are very imperialistic (mainly the US tho)

[@Intrinseque52]

It's funny to say It's funny. We should rather say obvious.

[@antoinegontier482]

You didn't mention French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna or New Caledonia. The "complete" map you showed only features departments, and doesn't mention overseas collectivies. So it's incomplete too.

[@Nebo8ful]

No because they aren't integral part of France. It's for the same reason you never see Guam or Puerto Rico when looking at an American map

[@leosimon241]

@@Nebo8ful the difference with puerto rico is that French polynesian, new caledonians and inhabitants from Wallis and Futuna are French and still vote in all French Elections

[@bloemkoolendestreetgang450]

Including overseas territories would be stupid, imagine doing that for a UK map

[@croatia0728]

I am curious about what French Polynesia and New Caledonia are considered since they aren’t on that map of France’s departments but are still part of France

[@francoise4678]

They are "collectivities", not departments, which means that they have much more autonomy ...( there are other collectivities too )

[@FoxTrotteur]

Well as a french I view those territories as a brit would view Scotland or northern Ireland. Each of them (Wallis and Futuna, French Polynesia and New Caledonia) have their own parliament with devolved powers over education, current affairs, and have their own laws as long as they don't contradict the french constitution and the french reserved matters over defense, international affairs and stuff. Wallis and Futuna even have 3 kings that are legally recognised by France. Each COM (oversea's community) works its own way but they are still, at the end of the day french citizen. Overall I don't think more of them as I think for some random departments, and their is this feeling of semi brotherhood where we are french but still different. And ngl, having visited them I didn't felt any particular kind of hate against french people, whereas some corsicans, way closer from home clearly hate french people.

[@kolerick]

New Caledonia is an interesting subject since they voted 3 times against independence (there was a big process planned after some troubles there back in the late 80ies) and now have to decide how they will be integrated in France...

[@FoxTrotteur]

@@kolerick Yeah, the writing of this new status was to be put on vote via referundum for before the 30th of June 2023, but has been postponed to an indefinite date. Honestly, this situation will never end. The independantists (feeling they will loose, that's not the official reason but the correct one) refused to recognise and to participate to the 3rd and last referundum about independence. They are playing with the system to try and hold back integration as much as possible. They even obtained a law that basically says that people that moved in new caledonia after 1994 and don't have caledonian parents cannot vote in elections to suppress the loyalist vote. Today there is people that lived for 15 years in new caledonia and didn't have a say in the future of their life. I personally think kanaks will result to violence again sooner or later. A plurality of people (and even a majority maybe) is pro-integration or pro-status-quo (essentially caldoches and mixed-race people) and they will never tolerate that. This "status" thing will just highlight and deepen the communities' gap. Daniel Goa, president of the UC even said one week ago "Our future cannot is to be envisaged only by our own sovereignty and it is not up to talk" one week ago. This shows that these referendums were only jokes and would have been accepted by the kanaks only if the result was yes. Scotland itself seems far more reasonable with its argument over Brexit. In that context no discussion is possible in any way or form. That's sad but they are dishonest about their democratic views and about they will to debate. A storm is rising.

[@vicrai578]

Almost no words in french have an "e" in the end that is pronounced. The ones we pronounce are the "é", like in "né" for "born" idk

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

I never thought of this, but now that you mention it, the maps of France without overseas departments are quite incomplete! Now, I know more about the odd decolonization of the French colonial empire, in the form of the French Union and the French Community! Thanks for the video!

[@simonw2631]

3:06 when you said "i’m gonna say these with a horrible french accent" i was like yeah ok he’s gonna have an english accent in french, and the you said goudeloupé, mayotté, and i can’t write how you said guyane 😭😭😭😭 my jaw dropped lol. The E isn’t said in french when its at the end of a word (usually)

[@Dugeek98]

And thanks to those overseas department and territories, France has the 1st EEZ (Exclusive Economic Zone) in the world. (Followed by the US and Australia)

[@rymikai]

funnily in france, most maps are the ones showing our overseas departments

[@sizanogreen9900]

Weeeeelll, I'd argue that the only truly "correct" map of France presents all included territories in their true size.

[@outerspace7391]

More like "why all maps of France are incomplete" something that can be said about many other countries like Britain and the Netherlands (their Caribbean islands are not shown), Denmark (Greenland is never shown) and even the States, where Alaska, Hawaii and the countless unorganized territories are hardly ever shown. I would love to see a video of the former ones especially. I lack the knowledge on how each European power faced decolonization

[@popezosimusthethird269]

As far as Britain and the NL, some of it is because they purposefully keep their various colonial leftover in a state of legal limbo. They're "part of" their respective countries insofar as it means you can transfer various goods without customs, or relocate businesses easily ; they're almost fully autonomous when it comes to a lot of their laws. This in-between status means they're both part of Britain or the NL but are also autonomous areas that have their own law and governance in a lot of domains (especially when it comes to taxation and financial regulation. You can probably see where this is going). The french overseas are (aside from New Caledonia and Polynesia which have a more autonomous status) pretty much fully integrated into french law, their difference in status mostly having to do with some administration being completely local. That's why the french overseas aren't tax heavens, business-mailbox-farms or pavilion generators, they are too integrated for that compared to Curacao, the Channel Islands or the Caimans. Meanwhile all these dutch and british territories are pretty much independent when it's convenient and integrated when it's not.

[@williamshortfilm5818]

@@popezosimusthethird269 It depends which Dutch territories you are talking about. You have Aruba, Curaçao, and St. Maarten that are autonomous countries part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (so what you were saying). But then you also have the three other islands (Saba, Sint Eustatius, and Bonaire) that are part of the Netherlands proper as special municipalities e.g. (they don't use the Euro, they are not part of the Schengen area...)

[@metalswifty23]

No map of the UK is incomplete. None of our territories have the same kind of status as many of France's do.

[@jeanfonssedeporte3158]

It's not the same legal status for the UK bits (idk for NL). France also have autonomous territory as UK have (Antartica, some islands such as St Pierre et Miquelon, or the infamous New Caledonia which recently held numerous ballots about independance and has a very special status in the current Constitution). The part he referred to is fully integrated into France and is considered the same way as Paris or any other French "département" and "région" (well except for some minor arrangement, as they are overseas there local gov have slightly more power and some of it don't use euros as currency but a special currency)

[@OldLordSpeedy]

But - some parts of overseas places use same money coins as the main land - some not. After start France with the real Ecü what they named "Euro", "EUR", "€" - not all French territories accepted them. Same with Schengen Visa. Same happens with the Kingdom of Nederland.

[@gordonranmsy1544]

I never thought of that when I looked at a map of France thx for calling that out 👍

[@Some1ne]

Denmark only tried to integrate Greenland on paper, in reality it was just to make it seem like Denmark was decolonizing to the UN while exploitation and forced sterilization, cultural genocide, and such was still going on if not more so than before

[@GoldsteinShekelbergSwartz]

Well, Denmark is replacing it own population with Arabs and africans so this is not new. Most of Europe want to "genocide" their own people.

[@joshualee-reid867]

Could you provide a link to learn more about the Gabon Affair you mentioned? I tried doing a preliminary google search but came up with nothing about that. Would love to learn more!

[@Goddessღ]

fascinating history and a fantastic presentation. Thank you!

[@sam_the_penguin_man]

Finally, a new sponsor

[@carlos-ju7ce]

A similar reason to this is why I, if I now chose to be, could become President of the Portuguese Republic. I was born in the overseas district of Mozambique. It was a district much like the Algarve, in continental Europe, or the Azores or Madeira out in the Atlantic. Same rights and duties / obligations. For decades after the independence of these overseas territories, the official line in Lisbon was was to deny us full rights. Then one day I renewed my ID and the change was reflected - I was officially born in Portugal. They snuck it in without fanfare and nobody seemed to notice. I suspect that someone with deep pockets must have had a good fight to get is all the recognition we needed. The reason the newly independent former-portuguese territories went to shambles was because nobody had bothered to prepare them for independence...Portugal just walked out after the Carnation Revolution in the metrópole.

[@FenikkusuNoIkki]

Tu as oublié de parler de la Polynésie Française, de Wallis-Et-Futuna, Saint Martin, Clipperton, Saint Barthelemy, les T.A.A.F. et de la Nouvelle Calédonie.

[@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33]

ça se sont des collectivités d'outre mer / territoires d'outre mer / collectivité sui generis la vidéo de tigerstar ne se focalise que sur les départements/régions d'outre mer

[@alaa3889]

"Local population didn't like it" It is actually more that france didn't integrate population into france , effectively having Apartheid system in their country for Muslims. That's why France and French see Algerian war not as colonial struggle say like first Indochina war but rather separatist movement as , again they say "department de algérie" , it could all have been avoided by simply giving local population equal right to french people.

[@vector.z4065]

It's actually even worse. The situation in Algeria was a mess of different populations living in the same place and hating each other. It could have been avoided, yes, but there were in fact moves to try and fix the situation. The war of Algeria wasn't a "war to gain independence" but rather a huge civil war caused by a horrid situation that had just gone too far. Eventually, the "big problem" was "fixed" with France taking all the minorities to metropolitan France leaving Algeria to the Arab majority. It was a huge trauma for a ton of people, and that's why France's relationship with Algeria is much more complicated than with other colonies

[@alaa3889]

@@vector.z4065 I try take it short , but it can be summon up by De Gaulle word about French auxiliaries that fought for france " Look at them ,do you see French people" abounding their soldiers that fought for them because of their race... and to their death. This is National hero of France

[@fireprism2232]

The Algerian population were given equal rights. Just way too late, when it didn't matter anymore. Also, what you are saying is unequivocally wrong. In France, we say "Guerre d'indépendance de l'Algérie", the Algerian Independence War, or sometimes the "Guerre d'Algérie", i.e. Algerian War. And in fact, most of the french population during the Algerian War was for the independence of Algeria, which is why De Gaulle ended up going away. Above all, he was a populist, he did what the people wanted. You're just parroting sensationalist francophobe "journalists" and "historians", who make the actions of a french government in the 1950's the equivalent of modern-day french opinions. You know, the 1950's ? At the time when the US was still at their worst time of segregation, and South Africa was on the bring of cleansing its black populations ? THAT is Apartheid.

[@alaa3889]

@@fireprism2232 Algerian never got equal rights , Ever , you can't find any law related to naturalization all way leading to their independent . What i said was How general french politican see the war , and not how do you call it . We recognize US segregation and South africa as Bad , but we don't recognize apartheid of Muslims in French department of Algeria as bad , but just period of history . As example ,look how you trying to justify it. Paris massacre for example wasn't recognize into late 1999 . That's just recently.

[@GoldsteinShekelbergSwartz]

Apartheid system works while multicultural society does not. Englan tried it and it had 1 million British girls raped by Muslim men. If Algeria become multicultural, all minorities would have fled Algeria. BTW South Africa under Apartheid system had better living standards and more worker rights than it has now.

[@jacobdalland1390]

It'll be interesting to see if French Guiana ever becomes independent, or just keeps being the last European piece of the (mainland) Americas.

[@RenegadeShepard69]

It has growing movements for independence. I think if it's south american neighbors give it more attention they'll have a better shot. The people of that land are neglected by their colonizers and would benefit from tighter alliances with mercosur and the caribbeans. Economically it's similar to Saint Pierre et miquelon, which would benefit from being Canadian economically, but in guyanes case the people are in an inhumane situation of neglect.

[@mnm1273]

It's quite dependant on France financially and that probably won't change due to geography.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

And it’s also an important launch site for the European space program

[@StuffandThings_]

@@RenegadeShepard69 To be fair, most of the sparsely inhabited jungles are neglected, even in independent countries like Guyana, Brazil, Suriname, etc. I don't think it would help much, if anything they would just lose French economic support and have nothing else to turn to. Despite the romanticization of independence and self determination, it doesn't always make sense. Seems like Gabon had caught on to this, but French prejudice clearly won and ruined any wisdom in that decision.

[@Florimondable]

@@RenegadeShepard69 the people of that land *are* the colonists. Except some few tribes.

[@Andrew-gn9qp]

Newfoundland was a British dominion-dependency of the United Kingdom until 1948, the closest thing the United Kingdom ever got to an overseas country. Canada has a higher GDP per capita than England, it made more sense for Newfoundland to join Canada in the end.

[@inferno38]

2:50 very bad French indeed lol

[@frenchempire9471]

Yep

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Sometimes you will see Guyana inset in the bay of biscay. But that still leaves out lots of islands.

[@enchantingdan3449]

Do a full video on French Guiana next!

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Fantastic video, i had no idea about this. Please more history videos

[@tootikisbathhouse2093]

Someone said once «yes, la France, Queen of not letting go»

[@jeffreypierson2064]

CGP Grey in "The European Union Explained". kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWSaqn14e7elnMk

[@cosmicwfnf3449]

You mistaken yourself very badly about France and the french bashing on your head

[@ingaman]

Wait... the sponsor isn't Ridge?

[@narthex1681]

Pro tip: don't pronounce the final "e" in french

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Except you can.

[@narthex1681]

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 It's my native language

[@TheBreadPirate]

I had no idea! It's cool that France treats it's old colonies similar to Alaska or Hawaii.

[@Kholdstare52]

The way you pronounced me-TROP-o-LIT-an is the way you pronounce Metropolis. ... Its MET-ro-POL-i-TAN 🤣🤣🤣

[@lesfreresdelaquote1176]

Among all the former French colonies, Algeria was an outlier. One of the main difference between France and the other Colonial empires was that very few French people did settle in these colonies. To give you an idea how little settlement was done by France, let's compare New France with New England. When Canada became English, only 80,000 French settlers lived in New France compared to already 3 millions in British American colonies. Algeria was the only French colony to a have major European population of about 1.5 million, which was the main reason Algeria was so tightly integrated into France. The main reason of this is the fact that France, while being the most populated country in the XVIth, XVIIth, and XVIIIth did not experience major increases of population as Spain or England. As a perspective, England was 6 millions at the time of Elisabeth the 1st and 18 millions at the end of XVIIIth century, in the same time France went from 20 to 30 millions. The need for new land to handle larger population was not as strong as for other major powers.

[@Shard]

wasn't algeria an integral part of the french republic too?

[@spaencerable]

yes but you know some revolt things

[@Snow2.065]

Yes, citizenship was also extented to Algerians in order for France to keep it (citizenship was, however, given only to Christian and later jew Algerians). But then a bloody war broke out and french were forced to leave.

[@frenchempire9471]

It will be again

[@WitchVillager]

@@frenchempire9471 💀

[@frenchempire9471]

@@WitchVillager 💀

[@valmarsiglia]

You've never heard "metropolitan" spoken aloud before?

[@omegawonton8749]

theres also new caledonia, wallis and futuna, and french polynesia all located in the pacific

[@LucarioBoricua]

Pretty sure those aren't integral parts of France and retain the right to self-determination. In fact, there was an independnece referendum on New Caledonia as recently as in 2019.

[@francoise4678]

@@LucarioBoricua In fact there have been three referendums in New Caledonia in a very short time : 2018,2020 and 2021

[@MapsCharts]

@@LucarioBoricua Yes they are, they just have their own governments on top of that too, but they have French passports and vote in our presidential and legislative election just like everyone else

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

What about the Dutch territories in the Caribbean? Do any of them have a similar status?

[@GurtBFroe1]

To help with the pronunciation of Mayotte it's /majɔt/.

[@Григорий-е2ъ]

Emmmm, where is Saint Pier and islands in Oceania?

[@macdeko7257]

🇷🇪 As a Reunionese Creole, love this video 🇷🇪

[@lo_qc]

J aimerais tellement venir a la Réunion un jour 🇷🇪❤

[@matsv201]

Well.. Greenland and färöislands pretty much is to Denmark what scottland and Northern Ireland is to UK. This is also true for Åland to finland and svalbard to Norway.

[@1Woofer1]

one small correction: France didn't just let guinea go. They actually slowly destroyed guinea's economy from the outside by doing stuff like sending in loads of fake money to artificially boost inflation and such. Eventually guinea's economy was destroyed beyond repair and never recovered, the french did this to "make an example". (Also France still has west their african colonies, research the CFA franc if you want to learn more on that)

[@pocketmarcy6990]

Yeah, French influence in West Africa has never gone away,

[@elpito9326]

It also bugged me when he said that Algeria was "given it's independence"... As if hundreds of thousands hadn't died fighting the French for it...

[@1Woofer1]

@@elpito9326 true, all he said about that was that it was a "brutal guarilla war" or something, i don't know much about that war but i know enough to to know he didn't pay it justice

[@elpito9326]

@@1Woofer1 exactly. There were about half a million deaths and around 2 million Algerians were sent to French concentration camps to keep them all rounded up and under surveillance

[@1Woofer1]

@@elpito9326 damn that's horrible. did they get any international reproductions from this?

[@JakeLikesTech]

I wonder if Ground News had a piece about the recent earthquakes.

[@300fusionfall]

There's also the French pacific territories.

[@Nickel287]

Napoleon : yes the maps are wrong , the eastern border touches afghanistan

[@matthewjay660]

I'm a French teacher and I live in Houston, Texas and I tell my students that I can drive my car to France, (Cayenne in French Guiana). They are incredulous 🤨 and doubtful.

[@TheGirard62]

Actually you can't because of the absence of continious road from panama to columbia

[@matthewjay660]

@@TheGirard62 Dang. 😝

[@TheGirard62]

@@matthewjay660 don't worry your student probably don't know that ;)

[@ilyaslebleu]

As Saarland had been made a French protectorate in 1947, did they also become a part of the French Union like Morocco, Tunisia and Indochina?

[@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33]

I'm pretty sure they weren't a part of it

[@genzalarboa3110]

the status of the saarland would have been different since it was planned to become the status of a separate european state hosting the european institutions. the saarland would have been the european equivalent of washington dc

[@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33]

@@genzalarboa3110 tu l'as lu où que le sarre était censé être une sorte de capitale de l'europe?

[@genzalarboa3110]

@@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33 dans le livre de johannes hoffman, le premier ministre-président après l'indépendance de la sarre (sarrland) de 1947 à 1957 , c'était l'époque de la CECA et de la CED les ancêtres de l'union européenne, le choix était logique , un pays souverain (l'otan via la France assurant sa défense) servant de zone tampon grâce aux institutions européennes entre les deux rivaux européens qui sortaient à peine de la guerre mais l'opposition totale (compréhensible) de l'Allemagne et son entrée dans l'otan en 1955 a fait capoter le projet de faire de Sarrebruck un district européen unique au lieu de diviser l'union européenne entre Strasbourg et Bruxelles

[@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33]

@@genzalarboa3110 j'étais pas du tout au courant de ça, merci beaucoup pour l'info!

[@marcello7781]

When I was learning French my book showed all the territories of the Francophonie and even the countries that have a French linguistic legacy such as Vietnam and Lebanon.

[@potatofuryy]

My book did the same thing! It was pretty cool.

[@yaboi672]

so they got cores there?

[@petersmythe6462]

"Algeria was considered integrally French." French when other French move from one part of France to another part of France be like:

[@ihatetheantichrist2752]

The name Algeria was given by the French as long as everything else that algerians now covet and are incapable of providing as such they move to France in droves.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@ihatetheantichrist2752 A couple things. For one “as long as” makes literally no sense in that sentence. For two, the French created the term Algérie to refer to the region, but it was simply a modification as the name of the city had been Algiers or al-Jaza'ir for hundreds of years and the territory had been known as Dawlat al-Jaza'ir under the Ottomans for the better part of 300 years. France’s glorious innovation in the name amounts to not much more than adding the Latin -ia ending. Sorry to interrupt your post-colonial masturbation session though please continue.

[@cosmicwfnf3449]

​@@ihatetheantichrist2752 only the FNL acted against France, but the algerian wanted to be french To bad France over reacted ..

[@RoseSolane]

A clickbait title. It should be: "Why most maps of France are incomplete". The same can be said of most maps of The Netherlands. The highest point of The Netherlands is a real mountain on an Caribbean island and not a 300 meter high hill which has the Dutch word for mountain in its name.

[@ender7278]

It really blows my mind the UK never tried this. They could've kept so many random islands and whatnot.

[@elpito9326]

They still keep a good bunch of random islands so welp...

[@sodadrinker89]

The UK did keep a whole bunch of random islands.

[@jeremielopez2739]

Thank you for the prononciation trigger warning. You actually don't need to have a good accent to talk about us. Just glad you have interest for other people.

[@guillaumelablanche2959]

Belle vidéo, comme toujours j'ai envie de dire. Je te rassure, tu as une prononciation assez correcte des département. Cela ne choquerait que les idiots.

[@EnemyAtom65]

I assume that he's about to talk about their overseas territories

[@EnemyAtom65]

yep

[@victorberlioz1094]

please stop to say "french colonies" when you speak about Guyana, Martinique etc (islands). Its a real outrage to the people who live in this french DEPARTEMENTS. This islands (and Guyana, where i was born) are fully part of France, the same rules and rights are applied, and the people are full french citizens. I f you are american,What will you think about me if i will say " Alaska is an american colony"? If you are english, if i say " Wales is a british colony"? You will have the right to say "what an uneducated guy", and you would be right ! Greetings.

[@unikracoon1913]

Interstate fact France has the longest inland flight ( from La Réunion to Paris)

[@MapsCharts]

CDG-Faaa is even longer

[@st-ex8506]

@@MapsCharts Yes, but it is not direct. Depending on the day, there is one or two stops.

[@sinoroman]

Western Africa still heavily dependent on France despite being de jure independent

[@Admin-gm3lc]

Its all under Wagner group now

[@mappingshaman5280]

@@Admin-gm3lc na that's central africa.

[@jean-raouldu2918]

@@mappingshaman5280 mali fall to wagner influence

[@sovietblobfish]

those french pronounciations, have mercy

[@RenegadeShepard69]

Yep. Don't know why he even tried. Just awful

[@fa14bi-78]

@@RenegadeShepard69 He said in the beginning that he is going to do it in awfully bad french

[@mj.arkhenium6853]

@@RenegadeShepard69 I prefer someone who try, it's the only way towards improvement.

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

What's the bit on the top right corner thou?

[@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232]

Paris zoomed in

[@dustinelias7840]

What about the Dutch

[@davidioanhedges]

This is why the UN decolonisation committee does not hound France to continually require votes for independence for these territories ... But does for other countries - regardless of the outcome ...e.g. Bermuda keeps voting to remain an overseas territory of the UK - the opposition to independence is actually increasing Note the ones the UN hounds are almost entirely self governing, whereas the French departments are not ...

[@MapsCharts]

The thing is that all of these departments chose to remain. Lately Mayotte in 2009 and New Caledonia in 2022 voted against independence by more than 95 %

[@Gachette00]

New Caledonia is not a french department and it is more complicated than that There have been 3 votes, the 2 first were in favour of staying in France but it was quite close to 50% and the third vote was boycotted by the independentists, that's why it ended with 95% but in fact it is more like 50-50 (not exactly, a little bit more for staying in France)

[@genzalarboa3110]

@@Gachette00 the fact that the separatists refused to vote (they knew they were going to lose again, not voting gives them a good excuse to say that the referendum is not representative) does not change the result of the vote, they had 3 referendums in a few years and they lost them all. it should not be forgotten that these referendums excluded 17% of registered voters on the pretext that they did not live in new caledonia before 1994 otherwise the result would have been closer to 60/40 for france