Why Mutants Have Secretly Been in the MCU for Years (and Ultron Proves It!)

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 9 ай бұрын
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@bentonmarcum8924
@bentonmarcum8924 9 ай бұрын
Infinity Beans.?
@DJMarcO138
@DJMarcO138 9 ай бұрын
Someone tell Ryan to go to the dentist. And to take a shower.
@En_theo
@En_theo 9 ай бұрын
Nice theory, I'd add the inhuman genes in the mix. Like, the Kree tried to create living weapons (as in the comics) who could hold the stone's power in them.
@Aeis_Arcade
@Aeis_Arcade 9 ай бұрын
Ryan, you know that this is not going to be accurate. You took the plot of the Inhumans in the comics and applied a loose version to the mutants. Not a bad fanfic, but we know this isnt what Marvel Studios is going to use to explain mutants. There are already mutants in the MCU that are not created from Infinity Stones, like Bear and the guy that cant die from She-Hulk (I apologize that I cant remember random tertiary characters names). Also your theory mentions but ignores the fact that Kamala and Wanda had a mutation before the infinity stones. Fans hyping up possibilities are why everyone gets so disappointed. I think it will be a few years still from Spider-Man eating pizza with Nightcrawler or Wolverine sitting with Cap.
@Aeis_Arcade
@Aeis_Arcade 9 ай бұрын
Pavel T., Not a solid theory.
@TheJaker5
@TheJaker5 9 ай бұрын
I always actually thought it was an interesting choice of words that Thanos used when he said the stones were “reduced to atoms”. So they aren’t necessarily gone considering we have characters that can shrink between molecules.
@equip0x80
@equip0x80 9 ай бұрын
They definitely might have been those sentient stones we see in quantumania. I think sc may have pointed it out somewhere
@treybone408_4
@treybone408_4 9 ай бұрын
Exactly.....CHILDREN OF THE "ATOMS" wink wink*
@richardbastuck3902
@richardbastuck3902 9 ай бұрын
Reminds of the first Avengers movie when Dr. Selvig said "You can't protect against yourself" when talking about the Tesseract. Maybe if Thanos couldn't destory the Infinity Stones, their power still exists in the fabric of 616's reality, just in different forms. Maybe that's the whole reason the multiverse exists now!
@Daddy_Kaiju
@Daddy_Kaiju 9 ай бұрын
One thing I never see anyone mention was from “She-Hulk”. Remember that conversation Bruce and Jennifer had about something about them specifically that allowed them to process gamma energy? Could also be explained by a mutation.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 9 ай бұрын
if you watch the first Hulk movie, his dad was hiding something, he tested his son's leg by making him react to a baby t rex doll, baby Skrulls look like Baby T rexes, before they grow into humanoids, and when bruce's leg turned green, he knew his dna passed onto him, so i think his wife found him transforming in that room, and that is why he killed her, to keep his secret, the key is the logo at the beginning of the movie, it shows a cell from an organism, and a galaxy merged, like dna from outer space
@douglasjohnson7880
@douglasjohnson7880 9 ай бұрын
@@futuramayeahdamn forgot about that
@dixienormus6941
@dixienormus6941 9 ай бұрын
That’s because you’re the only person who watched She Hulk
@aliengranpa
@aliengranpa 9 ай бұрын
​@@dixienormus6941I know several people that watched she hulk and loved it. Both men AND women! It's like the end times predicted!
@ironshoes1720
@ironshoes1720 9 ай бұрын
​@futuramayeah 🤯 You have fantastic memory and sense of observation. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thanks for reminding us of these important details. 🙂👍🏻
@Syncloud983
@Syncloud983 9 ай бұрын
In Deadpool Ajax said that to activate the mutant gene, the subject had to suffer from extreme stress.
@Chrispy07
@Chrispy07 9 ай бұрын
He could have been wrong.
@garengatorlope1004
@garengatorlope1004 9 ай бұрын
I'd think being exposed to an infinity stone might be a tad stressful
@dadofamadhouse4194
@dadofamadhouse4194 9 ай бұрын
If that worked in the real world I'd be omega level, lol. No lack of stress 😂
@Burzerker94
@Burzerker94 9 ай бұрын
“Till they either mutate or die”
@AdrianGonzalez-bz4jg
@AdrianGonzalez-bz4jg 9 ай бұрын
I think overall they mean you have to go through some kind of trauma in your life or some type of energy spike like when Logan first got his bone claws due to his anger and then when Wanda got her powers turned on/energized thanks to the stone
@ryadinstormblessed8308
@ryadinstormblessed8308 9 ай бұрын
10:42 every time Palps says "unlimited power", I feel like it's supposed to be followed by "itty-bitty living space"!
@daveythesearcher
@daveythesearcher 9 ай бұрын
😂
@davidfender4050
@davidfender4050 9 ай бұрын
Easy Retcon: The Experiments used on Wanda and Pietro with the Mind Stone were rooted in the writings of Victorian Geneticist, and Attendee of the Chicago Worlds Fair, Nathaniel Essex and his Research into the "EsseX Gene."
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
That would be so sinister 💀
@equip0x80
@equip0x80 9 ай бұрын
I want sins of sinister era MCU
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 9 ай бұрын
Or maybe Wanda and Pietro weren't mutants, but HYDRA's only successful experiments with the Mind Stone because someone messed up in the other tests?
@csc4781
@csc4781 8 ай бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100Disney can retcon them back to mutants since they officially own the rights to X-Men
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 8 ай бұрын
@@csc4781 I don't like the idea of Disney going back on the deal that gave them Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the first place. Sure, they own mutants now. But when they made Age of Ultron, Fox explicitly told them to not make them mutants in that film. If they retcon them to be mutants and say they were mutants in the past films that weren't allowed to have mutants...
@olleselin
@olleselin 9 ай бұрын
Kevin Feige was actually producer behind the first X-Men film back in 2000!
@sourabhkarmakar8040
@sourabhkarmakar8040 9 ай бұрын
And also The Last Stand
@roza6585
@roza6585 9 ай бұрын
I said since the arrival of Wanda and Pietro that the opportunity was there to pivot from Children of The Atom to Children of Infinity.
@BenjaminDolphin
@BenjaminDolphin 9 ай бұрын
I think the simple explanation of mutants in the MCU is found on the X-Men show. first Episode Beast tells Rogue that mutation can happen by exposure to high levels of radiation. The Infinity Stones give off high levels of Radiation. We know the Space stone at least gives off Gamma energy which ties into the destruction of the Shield base in Avengers. Bruce only has Gamma blood because his blood cells are more immune to the Gamma energy (Jen too because of heritage). Anyone can have stronger genes than most which gives ride to cosmic radiation and unlocked latent mutant abilities.
@JereVanderlaan
@JereVanderlaan 9 ай бұрын
@screenCrush ... I thought you said "Infinity Beans" and now I can't stop thinking about a universe where the infinity stones are magical beans like Jack and the bean stock.
@PEEPSnationOfficial
@PEEPSnationOfficial 9 ай бұрын
probably one of your more solid theories in a while. and you didnt even really get into how essential the eternals would be in this story.
@devinthompson2957
@devinthompson2957 9 ай бұрын
I was always kinda thinking that maybe some mutants have always been around (Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine) but there were very very few. The X-Gene was pretty dormant Then one of the infinity snaps surged cosmic energy (like Rocket mentions) and that energy accelerated the x-gene kinda like you mentioned That way we could still have Prof X and a small unknown x-men group existing but not until the surge of mutants from the cosmic energy and the general global fear of super powers post infinity war would help lean into why people are afraid of mutants but not all superheroes
@sozemania
@sozemania 9 ай бұрын
Red skull was powered also, it just wasn't described. He was floating around and imbued with the power of knowing
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 9 ай бұрын
They really should have made that guy a different character. Red Skull was thought to be dead, Hugo Weaving refused to return so they had to get a new actor in the role, none of the characters who came for the Soul Stone knew who Red Skull was, and when Captain America, the only person alive who knew Schmit went to return the stones, the scenes of how he returned the stones were skipped over, and when he returned to the present as an old man, he didn't say anything about the stones or Red Skull. If the Red Skull from Infinity War and Endgame wasn't Johann Schmitt but an alien native to Vormir, it could have been explained as the flying and omnipotence as a natural ability of his species.
@sozemania
@sozemania 9 ай бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100 in the end, if marvel wants to tell a great Cap story, then we will eventually need Red Skull redeemed
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 9 ай бұрын
@@sozemania If Red Skull is stuck on Vormir, I don't think we'll ever see him again because there's no reason to go back to Vormir. And Chris Evans isn't coming back as Captain America, so there's no way we'll ever see his meeting with Red Skull on Vormir as a flashback, and the only Cap stories left would be Falcon acting as Cap. Red Skull was a wasted cameo. It doesn't even change anything the Red Skull was an alien. He just appeared on Vormir as a mysterious hooded guy that nobody knows. It would make a whole lot more sense if Marvel later on revealed that he wasn't the Red Skull but just an alien who looks like him.
@sozemania
@sozemania 9 ай бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100 I understand but ,there is a soft reboot coming, they will have a chance to bring anyone back during or after secret wars
@kinyutaka
@kinyutaka 9 ай бұрын
​@@sozemania I still love the idea that Cap goes to Vormir to replace the Soul Stone in time, and is greeted by Red Skull. "So many have sacrificed what they love to claim the power of Souls. Now it is you, old friend, who have come to give up that power, and claim that which you love most."
@Quirkywatch
@Quirkywatch 9 ай бұрын
Well said, I like to think their mutations were accelerated by the stones.
@camiheartyt
@camiheartyt 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps the mutant gene was locked by someone powerful (maybe a future Wanda) and the key to unlock it is something cosmic or not of the universe. So the cosmic bands and infinity stones.
@IAmCasster
@IAmCasster 9 ай бұрын
Even though this wasn't done by the stones, we all know that Deadpool had his mutant gene unlocked by pushing him to the brink of death, both in the comics and the films, it was the experiments done to him because of his cancer that triggered his mutation, so the infinity stones (or any cosmic energy) doing the same would make sense
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 9 ай бұрын
Also they use a dirty needle with Wolverine's blood on it. The movie version explaining that Wade Wilson had dormant mutant genes or x gene.
@suryans5851
@suryans5851 9 ай бұрын
Deadpool isn't technically a mutant in the comics because he doesn't have an X-gene though. He is what is classified as a "mutate" (someone who gains their powers through external forces) but I'm not sure if they intend on keeping it that way in the MCU since, in the first Deadpool movie, they did actually say that pushing him to the brink of death would activate his mutant gene & I guess those movies are officially canon now.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 9 ай бұрын
@@suryans5851 In the movie version he an officially a mutant. He had dormant mutant gene and they wake it by serum and torture/stress on the body.
@ShelJones
@ShelJones 9 ай бұрын
So in the What If episode all those people in that other world with Kahoori were mutants? That's a lot of mutants with the same exact power from the same exact tribe who just happened to end up falling in that pool.
@equip0x80
@equip0x80 9 ай бұрын
I think the infinity energy released when thanos snapped could see the reawakening of the xgene for people in near death experiences slowly bringing about more mutant presences, this coinciding with the upcoming somehow-merge into a blended universe with the regular xmen who have established history like magneto being present in the main universe whether that remains to be “616” or not.
@garyD89
@garyD89 9 ай бұрын
I do count Patrick Stewart's cameo in Muliverse of Maddness
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 9 ай бұрын
And Beast's cameo in one of the movies, I think it was The Marvels.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
​@@davidm4566the Marvels is really underrated. Further connecting WandaVision and Multiverse of Madness so seamlessly... slay..
@Fetidaf
@Fetidaf 4 ай бұрын
@@nailinthefashionI unironically like The Marvels. It wasn’t the best film ever made by any stretch but it was really fun to watch. I think the actress playing Ms. Marvel knocked it out of the park… plus the X-men in the end, although that’s an alternate universe.
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 9 ай бұрын
How do you think mutants will enter the MCU?
@olleselin
@olleselin 9 ай бұрын
Deadpool
@josermaiz
@josermaiz 9 ай бұрын
I think Scarlett witch erased the mutants in mcu then after she died we are seeing the mutants slowly introduce in the mcu
@javongarnett41
@javongarnett41 9 ай бұрын
Ngl Ryan I love ur videos and takes but ur turning too much into like a den of nerds with unreasonable expectations these random retcon theory videos all follow the same idea “ this character was always here because this one Easter egg in this one movie “
@diablojones
@diablojones 9 ай бұрын
Not nearly as elaborately as your version.
@TheLoneDrow22
@TheLoneDrow22 9 ай бұрын
Probably the front door.
@verytoastyperson
@verytoastyperson 9 ай бұрын
About the part where you mentioned that the infinity stones are sentient: This reminded me of the Infinity Wars comics from 2018/2019, I recently read, where Adam Warlock (using the soul stone) gave the infinity stones their own soul. Also, there is the part where Overtime got introduced. (The time stone "chose him") I really like this idea of the infinity stone having their "own mind/soul". And your theory just makes all of this even more exciting and would be (in my opinion) the best way for the MCU to continue after the Multiverse saga. A potential arrival of the phoenix force in the MCU could also be a perfect setup for an Avengers vs Xmen event (my favorite comic btw).
@moonkey2712
@moonkey2712 9 ай бұрын
I wanna shout out Nightcrawler, whose teleportation is actually him moving himself to a hell dimension, than back to this one where he wants. (Similar to Cyclops bringing plasma blasts from another dimension)
@bosco1887
@bosco1887 7 ай бұрын
Well in the original ending credit scene in iron man fury talked about how he knew a guy who could swing on webs and a guy with sharp claws made of metal
@Bubblegob
@Bubblegob 9 ай бұрын
You make mutants sound like stand user right now with the "survival of the fittest" idea. You also make Apocalypse sound like a much more interesting twist villain coming out of Kang than Doom, plus you can still introduce Sinister first; that corner of the X-men villains wasn't explored much in the Fox universe it would be only fair to make Sinister and Apocalypse a big deal in the MCU.
@BrentHollett
@BrentHollett 8 ай бұрын
I keep hearing "Infinity Beans".
@exqueue3813
@exqueue3813 9 ай бұрын
The problem with the Celestials evolving mutants to protect the Celestial seed is that was exactly why the Eternals were here. And the Eternals are far easier to control as you can just wipe their memories.
@papastar5702
@papastar5702 8 ай бұрын
That’s a fun and compelling theory. Thank you for sharing it.
@PassThe40
@PassThe40 9 ай бұрын
First MCU mutant is *technically* Ursa Major from Black Widow.
@davidm4566
@davidm4566 9 ай бұрын
Wanda was a mutant in Age of Ultron. In Wandavision they showed that she already had powers before being exposed to the stone. He brother is also a mutant in the comics so the stones probably just enhanced their mutant powers.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 9 ай бұрын
The 🐻
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 9 ай бұрын
Ursa Major did not show any of his powers in Black Widow. And Fox only allowed Wanda and Pietro in Age of Ultron under the condition that they're NOT mutants!
@DragmaWanderer
@DragmaWanderer 9 ай бұрын
We can all smell the retcons@@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 9 ай бұрын
@@DragmaWanderer If Marvel reveals that Wanda and Pietro were mutants all along, which means they were mutants in Age of Ultron and so retroactively breaks the deal that allowed them in the MCU in the first place! Yeah, Disney bought Fox and the X-Men are now owned by Marvel Studios, but I don't want a former Fox employee to get mad when Wanda and Pietro turned out to be secretly mutants at a time when Fox explicitly told Marvel they can't be mutants. I didn't like how the kid in the Iron Man mask turned out to be Peter Parker when the MCU wasn't allowed to use him at the time. Retcons of earlier movies when there was some deal involved where the retcon made after the deal was over retroactively breaks the deal, that's very scammy.
@lamontwinston1494
@lamontwinston1494 2 ай бұрын
4:02 Im a writer and I remember when I used to write my early books on Marvel and DC characters. I had made a whole saga about this universe that had both Marvel and DC character within the universe plus my own unique characters and one of the storylines revolved around the Infinity Stones and how they had gifted their abilities to six individuals millennium ago and have been passed down throughout the generations within each individuals family and I named them Infinity Angels but Infinity beings has such a cool and nice ring to it
@BardWannabe
@BardWannabe 9 ай бұрын
Doug’s very good question at 18:43 doesn’t get answered. The combination of the comics’ motivations of the Celestials (experimentation and evolution) and their MCU motivations (world eggs)makes no sense.
@shanedbunting
@shanedbunting 9 ай бұрын
Schism between warring factions of eternal? One aside thinks they should chill out for 20 billion years while the other side wants to continue to fuck with the tiny people cause that shits dope.
@MyNameBeeKayy
@MyNameBeeKayy 9 ай бұрын
Easy retcon: As Prime Celestial explained to Circe, deviants were the first children of the celestials and and had the biological capacity to evolve. Mutants are human deviant hybrids or more simply descendants of deviants, hence being born powered. Activation of abilities happens at a level of maturity like puberty. Inhumans are human eternal hybrids which is why their physical bodies have to be programmed and overwritten by external circumstances and why they go into a chrysalis stage.
@akronglory7989
@akronglory7989 9 ай бұрын
Ive been saying it for a while, espexially since the eternals, Apocalypse will be the gateway for the x gene to bloom. But the X gene will need to be syper rare.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 9 ай бұрын
Apocalypse is not the first mutant. Selene is one of the first mutants. There were even older ones.
@mtnjr
@mtnjr 9 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that Doug the dog has been dead for like two years. I can’t believe how they keep coming up with unused footage to make these new bits with him. Lovely way to keep his memory alive. Rest in power Doug.
@Marvelousgamer7697
@Marvelousgamer7697 9 ай бұрын
This is an interesting idea that I wouldn't mind if they tried doing in the actual MCU but realistically and most likely the answer to the bringing over of mutants into the actual MCU would be through the Multiverse.
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 9 ай бұрын
Very entertaining theory! Definitely keep Mr. Pavel T around because he's been giving you guys some of your best stuff lately imo. I say entertaining because that'd be an awesome storyline, but alas I can't say it's a good theory as it seems too unlikely to actually come to pass. All signs are pointing to them just shouting multiverse and then suddenly we get Xavier and team. Same way MCU may never do their own proper Green Goblin, they may just never do Magneto, since his origins would be the hardest to fit into the existing MCU. It seems like most of the mutants will come from the multiverse or will come after a total reboot of the MCU.
@rickevans172
@rickevans172 9 ай бұрын
Remember in End Game Rocket says that when Thanos snapped his figures that the stones created a massive cosmic surge throughout the entire planet unlike anything in the universe. This surge could have trigger the mutation for some of the mutants.
@AndyEllis-dw6gd
@AndyEllis-dw6gd 9 ай бұрын
I like people given powers by the infinity stones being called Infinity Beings.... even better lets call them STONERS 😂
@kinyutaka
@kinyutaka 9 ай бұрын
I had the idea that with the Stones destroyed, the energy went to people who were touched by one of them, and thus absorbed their energies. Making six people in the Universe into Infinity Beings Carol Danvers Wanda Maximoff Bruce Banner Peter Quill Steven Strange Clint Barton Each of them harnessed the power of an Infinity Stone, and could be seen as a new vessel for cosmic energy, many of them outwardly powerful. Other potential - Loki. Clint is the most controversial option, but the Soul Stone energy might not be ourwardly "powerful"
@PEREGRINESK8
@PEREGRINESK8 9 ай бұрын
May I recommend infinity stoners for these people?
@Hugllls1971
@Hugllls1971 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the atomized stones are becoming fused with all beings out there meant to be hero's, because there are villains that are mutants too, so Thanos set off this chain reaction by atomizing the stones?
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
There was a news story in one of the projects about a clawed man going crazy so i just assume people know there are a bunch of powered people, and now we'll see them form ORCHIS or whatever to understand what's going on
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 9 ай бұрын
Yeah in she-hulk.
@stevenpfleuger5639
@stevenpfleuger5639 9 ай бұрын
First mutant in MCU was in Black Panther. Namor is a Mutant
@Kinuhbud
@Kinuhbud 7 ай бұрын
lol u forgot Spider Man was always a mutant too... Please live action XMen-SpiderMan! That was my favorite crossover as a kid.
@MediaCastleX
@MediaCastleX 9 ай бұрын
Still could be Eriks children if the Sokovian couple were given them to watch over, by a certain wanted individual trying to keep them safe
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 9 ай бұрын
Wanda had a necklace on in Age of Ultron with a centerpiece with some red liquid in it, i think her father used his magnetic powers to go through that door before Jane Foster did and took some of the Aether and put it in a necklace for his daughter, and that is why all her magics are red colored and why they are Reality affecting.
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 9 ай бұрын
THANKS, Doug and Ryan!!!! Ready for the X-Folks!!!!
@philthytanks4952
@philthytanks4952 9 ай бұрын
You’ve definitely done this video before,,,,,,,,,
@Josepluss10
@Josepluss10 9 ай бұрын
Loki used both the Space & Mind stones when he used The Tesssract & The Scepter I know Loki isn’t Human but he can be a Infinity Being as well.
@Nimaes45173
@Nimaes45173 7 ай бұрын
My personal. Take was, mutants pop up every once and awhile did to a large energy event, giving us the older mutants, but the snap released a ton of radiation. My theory is the snap awoke the xgene in a bunch of people.
@ThisisBo
@ThisisBo 9 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite videos of yours for this year so far👍
@curtisharris2162
@curtisharris2162 9 ай бұрын
I think it would be smart, or at least logical, that they use the ‘snap’ as the jump off for mutants. When Rocket said Thanos using the glove on Earth was like nothing ever seen before in the entire universe. That seems like such an obvious lead into humans mutating.
@swervezki
@swervezki 9 ай бұрын
I have my own saga planned for the MCU surrounding the Phoenix Force. This was a really great explanation
@ConsidertheCosmosx
@ConsidertheCosmosx 9 ай бұрын
I’d love to think that every infinity being was who they were in marvel comics in another universe and the only reason they got powers in the MCU is because the infinity stones are trying to reset back to that. So when were “all together” all OP characters are powered down.
@handlesaretoopersonal
@handlesaretoopersonal 9 ай бұрын
Paper journal is the way to go tbh
@aespi93
@aespi93 9 ай бұрын
Great ideas. Agents of shield wanted a similar idea or clarification
@joselmunoz
@joselmunoz 9 ай бұрын
And don't forget other characters that got their powers right after surviving a death-facing event, like the Hulk or Captain America. Spiderman got bitten by nothing less than a radioactive spider, Dr Strange survived a car accident and Black Widow and Hawkeye had been facing high-risk situations all their lives. It can't be a coincidence. I think you don't even need Apocalypse for this theory, you can tie this directly to the Celestials: they needed to ensure the survival of the human race to feed the Celestial seed because the Eternals were busy fighting with the Deviants, so they set this dormant gene randomly in certain individuals that would activate in the case of a death-facing event, giving them some sort of instant evolution to adapt to the current situation and survive. The higher the danger, the greater the transformation, hence the stronger the powers. In addition, the blip would explain why the number of characters with superpowers has escalated so quickly recently, this was a death-risk event for half of the population.
@imghoti
@imghoti 9 ай бұрын
I like this. I've thought the same (mostly) from the beginning. Stones give superpowers Mutations gives superpowers BOTH give Super-duper-powers Thats why Wanda and the Captain are wildly overpowered.
@squeezylo
@squeezylo 9 ай бұрын
So…easily put, the stones unlock certain individuals x gene
@Thaumh
@Thaumh 9 ай бұрын
I have a theory (sorta based on this and other like it y'all've had), that Loki was somehow destined to be the Avatar of the Time Stone. All of these "Infinity Beings'" powers seem to be colors coded to the Stone which awakened those powers. Loki's magic has always glowed green, like the Time Stone. And now, he is the living Temporal Loom taking care of the miriad timelines and Stories.
@richardbastuck3902
@richardbastuck3902 9 ай бұрын
I had a theory a while ago about why the Mind Stone chose Wanda. Red Skull said the Infinity Stones have a certain wisdom to them, so what if all 6 Stones are connected by their own network and can communicate with one another? Thanos had already obtained the Mind Stone once before it landed in von Strucker's lap, so I'm thinking the Mind Stone was like "this Thanos guy is setting events in motion that will lead to my destruction, I'd better give chaos magic powers to this girl so she can spontaneously create me again" like she did in WandaVision. Or maybe it was more like all the Stones relayed their own experiences to each other and could see their destruction by Thanos coming, followed by the destabilization of the multiverse, and were all like "We'd better choose special people to carry on our powers to fix this mess once we're gone." Idk, theorizing is fun lol. Heck, maybe (since time appears to be cyclical in the MCU) the whole reason there are 6 Stones is because of the original 6 Avengers?? One for each?? That works, right? Hahaha
@zackmnr19
@zackmnr19 9 ай бұрын
I recommend journaling...it helps..
@suryans5851
@suryans5851 9 ай бұрын
Great video & a very interesting theory! Somehow, in the end, I don't think Apocalypse will be the one behind all of the Infinity Beings because it doesn't seem like the MCU writers are that creative. Carol isn't a mutant, she's a mutate. To be officially classified as a mutant, they have to specifically possess the X-gene, which first activates during puberty or times of high stress. If they gain powers through an external source (eg. Gamma radiation, cosmic radiation, radioactive spider bite, super solder serum, etc), they are classified as a mutate. Apocalypse is only "immortal" because he transfers his consciousness into his new host bodies. If they do him right, it doesn't matter how many Infinity Beings there are, they only really need (adult) Franklin Richards to beat ANY threat!!!
@TheKingABM
@TheKingABM 9 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan and Screen Crush Crew love the daily vids no matter what they about…gives me something to look forward to everyday!
@warpdriveby
@warpdriveby 9 ай бұрын
@15:41 First, this was great, and so are your other speculations. I think you'd do great advising anyone on worldbuilding continuity or doing so yourself. I did notice something at the time mark I added: according to your own theory and information, it can't be the space stone that Apocalypse encountered. You've said he was born 5000 years ago or in 3000BC. If Odin sends the space stone to Earth in 500AD as you say, that's 3500 years too late for him to interact with it! I don't know which stone it was, but if your info is correct and cannon, we know which one it isn't.
@DeloFFF
@DeloFFF 9 ай бұрын
Shout out to ScreenCrush for trying soo hard to save the MCU himself 😂😂
@matthiasjanzen4621
@matthiasjanzen4621 9 ай бұрын
I always gets goosebumbs when I hear the X-Men Intro!!!
@christophhermann6913
@christophhermann6913 9 ай бұрын
Screen Crush: How often will you use the Xmen Theme? Editing Team: YES!!!!
@doyscherr
@doyscherr 3 ай бұрын
Dear Marvel- No more Dark Pheonix Saga. No more "Jean Grey Dies" because you aren't better than Fox. Also, there are more stories to tell with the X-men than Dark Pheonix Saga.
@anakamarvelous
@anakamarvelous 9 ай бұрын
I always wanted to get all five infinity beings with the Time,Power and Soul stones. I always felt like Wanda was lowkey the reality and mind stone Infinity being in one but you can still properly split them
@CarlosCardoso2amissao
@CarlosCardoso2amissao 9 ай бұрын
Nice theory, but too complex for movie goers.
@sethadkins8517
@sethadkins8517 9 ай бұрын
If you think about it... In Deadpool his x genes were dormant till he had a near death experience so his universes xgene can go along with the MCUs if your theory is right
@amq9415
@amq9415 9 ай бұрын
I really like your wel thought out theories. Keep up the good work
@mattm8098
@mattm8098 9 ай бұрын
I wish they had an anthology show introducing all the characters and their back stories.
@damocles00
@damocles00 9 ай бұрын
FrFr tho saying Monica getting second - second hand powers is wild, compared to everyone else who actually had stone or stone particles touch them.
@MUISSJGDAVON8090
@MUISSJGDAVON8090 9 ай бұрын
I Hope The Mutants Have Always Been In The Marvel Cinematic Universe!
@RoyCyberPunk
@RoyCyberPunk 9 ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again Doug is adorable and I hope he gets to meet Lou The Chichi sometime.
@jagnestormskull3178
@jagnestormskull3178 9 ай бұрын
How are the Infinity Stones described early on (I think it's in Guardians of the Galaxy)? Primordial singularities forged into stones by immensely powerful cosmic beings, depicted on the walls of the Temple of the Power Stone.
@matrix4594
@matrix4594 9 ай бұрын
Didnt they say in wandavision that her magic comes from nowhere and not harnessed from somewhere else?
@ThatStevenLouis
@ThatStevenLouis 9 ай бұрын
The MCU Infinity Stones are sentient. Not only does Wong reveal this when he's telling their origin in Infinity War (I wanna say), but Red Skull reveals this when tells how he got to Vormir; the Space Stone sent him there at the end of Captain America to keep him away from it, and the Soul Stone gave him infinite knowledge and immortality, everything he wanted, but he can never leave so it played a sick joke on him. They're DEFINITELY sentient lol. Then there's Thanos "reducing the stones to atoms". We never saw what actually happened and they weren't brought up again; the Avengers just go on the time heist. I've always said that he destroyed the crystal housings around the stones, but they're all an "essence" like how we were introduced to the Reality Stone/Ether in Thor.....so my thing's been "What if the mainline Infinity Stone essences are still out there floating around?"
@anthonybarbierojr.4306
@anthonybarbierojr.4306 9 ай бұрын
Another possibility that could set up mutants and still goes with your theory. Anyone who was blipped. Would come back with a cosmic mutation setting up Mutants. Since the blip was caused by the Infinity Stones it connects with your theory
@BAAT4103
@BAAT4103 9 ай бұрын
Pretty badass take, Ryan!
@Paintimenti
@Paintimenti 9 ай бұрын
IMAGINE if MT and the SC team teamed up on an MCU theory??? Oh boy- our minds would explode
@ciscoak9074
@ciscoak9074 9 ай бұрын
Iv always thought that apacaplypse is the best choice for the next "Thanos level" villain...his backstory is sooo rich and he is a character that NEEDS a whole "saga" to do right.
@kylebroflovski9690
@kylebroflovski9690 9 ай бұрын
They’ve been in Westchester NY, that’s pretty far from NYC, so it’s pretty understandable that the Xmen would know about the avengers
@dawnhero6439
@dawnhero6439 9 ай бұрын
Love this. I think this would be the best direction for the writers to take the MCU, since all the most popular heroes are dead or retired, it's time to go full force into X men...only problem... WE already have a huge library of great, loved, movies about these stories. I haven't seen these movies, but Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, even the X men as a whole have already been done thoroughly and beautifully. Just, in a vacuum. So with that being said I think they're best play would be to mix X men and other heroes seamlessly, and not make a big deal about mutants. But we need a new lead. Cyclops, Reed Richards, maybe even a Wolverine could be promising. I'm hopeful for Sam's Captain America too but we haven't seen him at all lol. The characters we have right now are increasingly just kid or female versions of established superheroes. Which are fine, but I think we're ready to see alternate universe versions of old favorites, Tom Cruise Iron Man, anyone?
@douglasjohnson7880
@douglasjohnson7880 9 ай бұрын
I thought in the Scarlett TV series they said Wonda had her powers since she was young and it wasn’t because of the stone
@OdemGee
@OdemGee 9 ай бұрын
Didn't the Marvels end credit hint that the mutants are in a different universe. So my guess is that by the end of the multiverse saga the two universes will somehow get combined.
@TheRealReVeLaTioN
@TheRealReVeLaTioN 9 ай бұрын
Got to end and… you guy’s theory seems to be too high because y’all sure are reaching with this. Just when it starts sounding really good you throw in something that doesn’t make sense (like saying because 1+1=2, then 1+2 must equal 4). I thought the writers strike was over.
@petertomshany
@petertomshany 9 ай бұрын
Definitely the better theories require no retconning, and this *is* one of them. :) Well done.
@JhakceMorgan
@JhakceMorgan 9 ай бұрын
Since Marvel likes to retcon origins so much, I wonder if instead of the Phoenix choosing Jean, it chooses Wanda, since she’s an established character with near-unlimited power. This would save a significant amount of time setting up all the different X-Men and getting the audience familiar enough with them all to get them to care enough about Jean to have any sort of emotional impact on the MCU. Plus, we’ve seen two failed attempts at the Jean Grey Phoenix, so audiences may have a bad taste in their mouth from them, but might welcome a new spin on an old story.
@mckid2683
@mckid2683 9 ай бұрын
Geez! What a great friggin video! Even Greater Theory! I hope that everything in this video comes true onscreen for us all to enjoy! Thx n keep the great videos n theories coming!
@RewindReleases
@RewindReleases 9 ай бұрын
Figured the best way to introduce the X-Men is when Thanos snapped it caused a surge of cosmic energy hence unlocking their powers in 616 bug I guess it's another universe collapsing into ours where they have a full CG Beast 😅
@JordiVanderwaal
@JordiVanderwaal 9 ай бұрын
Apocalypse? Well, you're right. I was NOT expecting that. Considering most of my interactions with him have been through the PS2/Game Cube X-Men games, I would love to see him in the MCU. But I don't know if Marvel will want to risk including him so early after the previous failed attempt from FOX 8 years ago.
@charlestrotter9449
@charlestrotter9449 9 ай бұрын
You guys should do a breakdown on I am number four. I think it's an underrated movie.
@commielnino
@commielnino 9 ай бұрын
At the moment it seems that the events of MCU secret wars will reconfigure the multiverse, possibly leading to an MCU earth that suddenly has mutants on it. Recent MCU movies are suggesting that most mutant peoples are in alternate realities.
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 9 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. All signs are pointing to them just shouting multiverse and then suddenly we get Xavier and team. Same way MCU may never do their own proper Green Goblin, they may just never do Magneto, since his origins would be the hardest to fit into the existing MCU. It seems like most of the mutants will come from the multiverse or will come after a total reboot of the MCU.
@brucedunlap1978
@brucedunlap1978 9 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video so well written with great Doug interaction! This a video that brings me back.
@tko3779
@tko3779 9 ай бұрын
The stones are treated as paper weights in Loki. This fits and still possible. We’ll see.
@kennitz8155
@kennitz8155 9 ай бұрын
If all these mutants are getting their power from other universes, aren't those universes shrinking or loosing energy and then collapsing? and what about the mutants in those universes sucking the power from our universe? THat seems like an interesting story
@tekkersmo3816
@tekkersmo3816 9 ай бұрын
Apocalypse makes sense given that Moon Knight's Egypt connection feels isolated from the rest of the MCU. I hope they follow through on the news reporter in Cairo comment from Winter Soldier and give Storm a cameo in the second season or something for some over lap. Or show Bast or something. Rama-Tut is probably a no-go at this point.
@K-Viz
@K-Viz 6 ай бұрын
If Wanda was enhanced by the Mind Stone, why are her powers more tied to the Reality Stone?
@jaishun9744
@jaishun9744 9 ай бұрын
Omg!!! I swear I was thinking something along these lines!! And it all makes sense! I hope this is the route they go
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