Why my Engine Blew. Something every E55 owner should know!

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@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
For people that haven't seen the previous videos, keep in mind this is a time attack car. I've been using it on the track for the past two years so its been through a lot more stress than most other E55's My point is that if it happened on this car it might happen on other E55's later down the road, and without an oil pressure sensor or switch there's no way to tell when something like this happens. Its something that could have been easily prevented had I known in time, so Its worth pointing out to others so they don't fall for the same thing.
@joel50i
@joel50i 6 жыл бұрын
do you have plans to add some form of oil pressure monitoring in your new engine ?
@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, already ordered an oil pressure gauge. Will be installing it soon!
@devanandgovindshetdessai4063
@devanandgovindshetdessai4063 6 жыл бұрын
Please make video of oil pressure gauge instalation........ Thanks
@freakasis
@freakasis 6 жыл бұрын
Wait....There isn't an oil pressure sensor on that motor? My Kawasaki lawn mower engines and my pressure washer have oil pressure switches that shut down the engine if pressure is low. WTF would an engine like this not have at least an idiot light???
@curlymyhero
@curlymyhero 6 жыл бұрын
Does the S55 have the same O-ring issues even though it has just 1 large oil tank? Thx
@SuperAngelles
@SuperAngelles 6 жыл бұрын
I am impressed. I like how you laid everything of the broken down engine out in geographical arrangement. This a very informative video Thank You for sharing.
@CarsExposed
@CarsExposed 6 жыл бұрын
My pocket was saved a couple times when I lost oil pressure and obviously stopped the car straight way... No having an oil pressure sensor seems like a really crap ideia from Mercedes ... 😳
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 жыл бұрын
we need to use a Japanese Oil pump on these german cars!!
@nederberg2331
@nederberg2331 6 жыл бұрын
AMG company, only the body is Mercedes.
@Elinzar
@Elinzar 6 жыл бұрын
Crap idea? or genius idea? i think the second one
@sergeytn6487
@sergeytn6487 5 жыл бұрын
@@nederberg2331 was 30 years ago separated. Now comes from the same assy lines.
4 жыл бұрын
The old Mercedes had oilpressure gauge but not this one hmm!
@timshelby2324
@timshelby2324 6 жыл бұрын
A O-ring took out a space shuttle in 1986 too.
@jakob.1995
@jakob.1995 6 жыл бұрын
The challenger space shuttle also blew cus of a O-ring
@jospi2
@jospi2 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of bad things can happen when rubber tears.
@jakob.1995
@jakob.1995 6 жыл бұрын
jospi2 hahahah
@MegaE46
@MegaE46 6 жыл бұрын
Hot damn lol 😂😂😂😂
@catsbyondrepair
@catsbyondrepair 6 жыл бұрын
That's you back up a o ring with rtv it's the fucking space shuttle dude
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 6 жыл бұрын
The space shuttle worked as designed as did the SRBs. They were operated way out of thermal design spec due to some greedy bastards at NASA. I suspect infrequent oil changes in the engine's past had some effect on the longevity of this o-ring.
@jonathan643
@jonathan643 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a shocking design fail from Mercedes! That O-ring was something they could have prevented and no oil pressure sensor is just a big design fail in my opinion. Keep up the good work man 👍
@410kane
@410kane 6 жыл бұрын
My Clk500 doesn't have a dipstick. You have to believe in a sensor that sends info to the dash about oil level. Great job mercedes👏
@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
I believe this design only came in the E55's and newer cars that came after 03. The S class W210 and CL W215 had a much better oil pump design. The collector was a part of the pump rather than separately being mounted.
@MatrixDiscovery
@MatrixDiscovery 6 жыл бұрын
HONDA make the best engines...look up any video on someone tearing down one and you'll understand.
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 6 жыл бұрын
webnothing That's why Europe is full of Mercedes cars with 500,000 to 1,000,000 km's on the clock running like brand new? I don't think I sat in a Mercedes taxi in my life that had less than 500,000 km's on it. I love how tards always like to take one bad example and then shit all over the whole brand, while ignoring millions of examples that prove that the opposite of their belief is true.
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 6 жыл бұрын
Cars1999 You can't really compare some 2 liter 4 cylinder that's so simple nothing on it can go wrong to something as complex as this V8 in the E55.
@oilpricesgoingup3337
@oilpricesgoingup3337 6 жыл бұрын
As an M6 owner and former AMG owner this pains me to see. At the same time I am grateful for your efforts in showing the engine and the issue and I hope no one else suffers this because it’s a gamble putting in a new used engine.
@Conan997
@Conan997 6 жыл бұрын
You are a true expert. Your level of investigation is incredible!
@thatthreecrowner5145
@thatthreecrowner5145 6 жыл бұрын
That sucks, a little o ring caused the destruction of your entire engine. Also I was really surprised when you said there’s no oil pressure sensor. That’s just plain stupid
@DANNY40379
@DANNY40379 6 жыл бұрын
just like an o-ring destroyed the space shuttle
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with tracking old cars, parts are worn out and things fail under the stress conditions of the track that won't fail in normal city driving.
@2smokes
@2smokes 5 ай бұрын
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH if the engine had an oil pressure sensor it could of been easly prevented tho...
@MirchiBoy
@MirchiBoy 6 жыл бұрын
I was ready to blame it on the boost or the tune. I shouldn't have doubted your skills. Lol. Thank you for your findings.
@diggleboy
@diggleboy 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome forensic analysis on why your engine blew. I see this with F1 where they inspect their engines after every race to analyze wear and tear. You're very knowledgeable and highly skilled. It shows. Thanks for sharing these issues with us. So glad you were able to get your hands on a replacement engine. Now I know why they were rated the best in the world for durability and reliability over many years. Looking forward to more amazing videos like this. Keep up the great work with your channel!
@kayzrx8
@kayzrx8 6 жыл бұрын
There isnt an oil pressure gauge or warning light on the car? Thats insane.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 жыл бұрын
Not only insane but stupid thing to do when its supplying oil to an engine with 8 cylinders
@kayzrx8
@kayzrx8 6 жыл бұрын
yeah I know. The oil system is the heart of the engine, at least have a warning light. I seriously believe ,and I do this to all my builds, the engine needs an engine cutoff based on the oil pressure. below pressure cut ignition and fuel. larger diesel motors like international do this.
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 6 жыл бұрын
My car is 52 years old and even IT has an oil pressure warning light!
@richardwallinger1683
@richardwallinger1683 4 жыл бұрын
THATS MERCEDES don't you mean. LOL.
@lucasdetex8703
@lucasdetex8703 3 жыл бұрын
10:33
@inox1ck
@inox1ck 6 жыл бұрын
It makes sense. Apparently the engine was destroyed before it actually blew up, because of massive wear. The oil pressure is definitely a sensor you would wand on any engine. Even the cheapest engine have it. But instead, Mercedes is preoccupied more about comfort, like fitting a boot light failure sensor. Nice job. Keep it up!
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 6 жыл бұрын
cant believe that these cars dont have an oil pressure sensor, very chep car I know has that. Of course if the pressure drops there is already damage done to the engine, but atleast the driver gets an idiot light and doesnt ruin EVERY part in the engine...
@TasosMoschatos
@TasosMoschatos 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, if not all AMG engines at least the M113k, M156, M157 and M275 doesn't have oil pressure sensor, you found it with the hard way that you need to install an oil pressure gauge. By the way if you are using your car to the race track you can modify also the oil thermostat it's very easy on M113k. Sorry for your loss
@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Tasos, Thanks for your comment. I also recently discovered your channel. Great content on these engines! Pretty surprising none of the newer models come with oil pressure sensors or switches considering that was something almost all older Mercedes had
@bounderchris
@bounderchris 6 жыл бұрын
I have an 06 S55 with about 30k into it.. 5k in the exhaust alone.. is this an issue on the S too? I realize they don’t have oil pressure sensors but I am talking about the o ring. I know the oil systems / sump Design is totally different
@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
Bounder With Chris The S55 didn't have this o-ring. This one only came in models with two oil sumps.
@UgurAkdag
@UgurAkdag 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of confidence the designers put on that tiny o'ring. This is simply a design flaw. They could have easily implemented an auto shutdown system in case of low or no oil pressure together with an indicator and warning light. Excellent video, unfortunate occasion.
@AMGmeister
@AMGmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Great video once again!
@TheCeki1982
@TheCeki1982 6 жыл бұрын
You're a fucking hero! "I just took the engine apart .. ."
@flynnketchum7277
@flynnketchum7277 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully narrated video. Really. He went straight to the point with no drama, gave a ton of information, with no need to draw it out. Obviously he familiarized himself with his subject Before he picked up the camera. Most videos are an agony to watch because of unnecessary yammering, stammering, complete boredom, and some kind of need to be Cecil B. DeMille.. I own an M113k and will be installing a pressure gauge because of the information given on this well done video. Thanks..!
@TheKasperlkopf
@TheKasperlkopf 6 жыл бұрын
jesus your knowledge is insane
@MatrixDiscovery
@MatrixDiscovery 6 жыл бұрын
The dude took apart the engine himself but his hands look perfect....WTF????
@SilverCanary1
@SilverCanary1 6 жыл бұрын
Help... Soap... Gloves... ?
@nightmareinaction629
@nightmareinaction629 6 жыл бұрын
Cars1999 probably wears gloves taking engines apart is easy but know what every part does and how it works may be hard for some people I just turned 18 and I took a corsair flatsix and Chevy v8 and a fzr1000 motorcycle engine head
@moyadapne968
@moyadapne968 6 жыл бұрын
It's how you care for them. I've been a mechanic for years and years. My hands are good. No gloves. Just some good grit cleaner, a nail brush, and cold water only.
@TheKasperlkopf
@TheKasperlkopf 6 жыл бұрын
are you a native english speaker?
@jannovak6806
@jannovak6806 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THIS VIDEO,YOU SCARY ME,I HAVE E55 AMG W211...MONDAY I BUY NEW OIL PUMP...ME IN YOUR SITUACION SHAKING HANDS AND MY VOICE IS DIFFERENT....YOU ARE REALLY BRAVE...THANK YOU AGAIN...OH MAN I FEEL THE PAIN IN MY HEART.
@PlaneEasy
@PlaneEasy 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My guess is that the o ring was cut during installation. It's also my guess the redundancy of the Benz design allowed the engine to survive during normal use even though the pump was cavitating. It's probably the competition use that pushed the conditions (high rpm / hp demand, hot / thin oil, g-forces further compromising oil pickup, and so on) beyond the rod bearing's ability to cope. #5 rod is the furthest rod from the pump supply, so this kind of goes along with the cut seal line of thought. Sorry for your troubles, btw.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 6 жыл бұрын
SK8215 I’m sorry for your loss but thankful for the superb video you’ve made on it! Excellent explanation of what went wrong and what the culprit was. Thank you for the beautiful layout of (what is left of;-) the engine. It’s a shame Mercedes left out the oil pressure sensor but you’ve made maybe the best video in this category on it!
@malakiblunt
@malakiblunt 6 жыл бұрын
i belive you can program some aftermarket ECUs to shut the engine down if oil pressure is lost.
@anythingbenz4005
@anythingbenz4005 6 жыл бұрын
how would it know if oil pressure is lost if theres no oil pressure sensor nigga
@Truthcanbeconfusing
@Truthcanbeconfusing 6 жыл бұрын
CashedClean because you tap an oil galley and measure it....nigga
@billypurdy8581
@billypurdy8581 6 жыл бұрын
Ronald Rebolledo lmao what a fucking concept right?? It’s a sensor, it can be added
@serverdll
@serverdll 6 жыл бұрын
it can, but you need an extra sensor... i test a oil pressure sensor mounted in a oil filter but you need to program quite well because car wont start after oil change.
@chikarjj
@chikarjj 4 жыл бұрын
This could be easily done with an oil pressure sensor and relay logic.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f 6 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with your thought process and technical ability. Very nice investigation here.
@SchepersP
@SchepersP 6 жыл бұрын
Still sad it blew but I love the fact you got a new m113k :)
@avii5429
@avii5429 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not clickbaiting me, you actually explained it immediately, so many youtubers can actually learn something from you.
@shimon2476
@shimon2476 5 жыл бұрын
Alot of heartache and life changing events can happen when a rubber breaks!
@flyboy8282
@flyboy8282 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 🍼👶👶
@shimon2476
@shimon2476 4 жыл бұрын
@@flyboy8282 LOL.
@dougjohnson9948
@dougjohnson9948 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how calmly you present this. Good on you.
@Split10uk
@Split10uk 6 жыл бұрын
This might worry a few Mercedes owners on here. Might be an idea to ask Alex at LegitStreetCars guy on here, as her is was a Mercedes technician, and certainly knows his stuff.
@SchepersP
@SchepersP 6 жыл бұрын
You got me :( I've got one with 210000kms. I have spent allot of time on the e55 forums and have never heard of this. I'm in panic mode atm. A replacement engine in europe is 5000€.
@MrSnowford
@MrSnowford 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, would like to see Alex comment on this. Great video SK8215........think an oil pressure sensor will be on my list for my CLS55 this summer.
@carlbothmann
@carlbothmann 6 жыл бұрын
learn proper german ,it´s called:"was ist das denn für eine scheisse" And no it´s not the g-force, if you would know something about the E 55 you would not state such theorys.
@carlbothmann
@carlbothmann 6 жыл бұрын
ich danke ihnen für ihre warmherzige antwort und wünsche ihnen auch weiterhin alles gute da sie ja ein wahrer intelligenzbolzen sein muessen.
@gametrix1297
@gametrix1297 4 жыл бұрын
is it the same for the cl55?
@resourceallocation3419
@resourceallocation3419 6 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Keeping with the original engine!
@Nexus.Achiles
@Nexus.Achiles 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. After a careful and thorough analysis of your dismantled engine, I came to the conclusion that the real cause of the problem has to be that horrendous front spoiler!
@shahabuddin099
@shahabuddin099 6 жыл бұрын
I think that you should look at every single o'ring in the new engine not just this one and set a certain time to change all of these again as well. Definitely check out VRPSpeed.
@benetaue
@benetaue 2 жыл бұрын
Now we know why 20 year old Mercedes are called classic 👌 in the barn or will blow up
@benetaue
@benetaue 2 жыл бұрын
Have you watched "barn find "shows. Classic worth 100k and fist thing they do is say"lets see if she will start "Ho ho ho
@redlad81
@redlad81 Жыл бұрын
Hi from Ireland and 2004 e55 owner great car loads of little bits to do but always puts a smile on my face !! Own 3 Imprezas sti from 94 to 97 and a 07 hatch bought the e55 as a daily driver even though it’s €1800 to tax for the year ! As Andretti said it’s the fastest taxi in the world !
@benzitoracer
@benzitoracer 6 жыл бұрын
I bet you got a good deal on the engine?... They are the LS of the MB world.
@pedroa.f.c.590
@pedroa.f.c.590 6 жыл бұрын
Dude...what a heck!!! What a mess!! Great video and advise for all E55 owners...congrats !!!!!!!!
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049 6 жыл бұрын
i have to ask: what weight oil were you running during track use? did you know that the recommended oil for daily/normal use is wholly inadequate for track duty/continuous high speed operation and will thin to the point of allowing the damage you are seeing? it's not the fault of the pump. the factory on the other hand most likely didn't advise accordingly. the reason i bring this up is that this is not the first time i have seen this happen with mercedes engines.
@frankbiz
@frankbiz 6 жыл бұрын
What a shame that a beautiful engine was wrecked because of a poor design flaw. Sure no low oil light comes on because it’s full but only staying in the pan doing nothing. All cars should have a oil pressure gauge. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for a great video. 👏👏
@elhugeo
@elhugeo 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. Tought me a lot about selenders.
@DouEditz
@DouEditz 5 жыл бұрын
@Dick Fageroni hahaha
@philagainstone6007
@philagainstone6007 5 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest channels on KZbin!!! Many Greetings from Germany.
@hanzkranz1319
@hanzkranz1319 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong, it broke, because it is a modern Mercedes! Greetings from Germany
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 6 жыл бұрын
Hanz Kranz yup !
@chevymarioana
@chevymarioana 6 жыл бұрын
ich fahre 3 altbenze....richtig alte...die laufen alle---neubenze sind aber ein grauen
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 жыл бұрын
yup Scotty Kilmer hates new Mercedes'es
@michaelrackson9784
@michaelrackson9784 6 жыл бұрын
Do u even know what a “modem Mercedes” is
@kimweaver3323
@kimweaver3323 6 жыл бұрын
If you only fit one oil alert, use a buzzer. You don't have to be looking at the dash at the critical time to get the message. You can also add a pressure gauge and/or warning lamp in parallel. Belt AND suspenders. I used a seat belt buzzer from a crashed Honda.
@kd1s
@kd1s 6 жыл бұрын
You're telling me that with all the computers etc. there wasn't an oil pressure monitor? You would have known right away if that had been the case. and AMG and Mercedes should be ashamed of themselves for not putting a pressure sensor on the oil system.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 жыл бұрын
nisssan and toyota must be laughing in Japanese dialect...
@bossmanjack42
@bossmanjack42 6 жыл бұрын
fidel catsro I’d be laughing at Nissans reliability
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 6 жыл бұрын
yes after 2009 Nissan joined with Renault it became question...before that it was a great name
@ezacher4634
@ezacher4634 6 жыл бұрын
You can get gauges that will give you a audible warning. Also hook up some large warning led's in your line of sight when on track. Cool turbo setup!
@AS-zx8ve
@AS-zx8ve 6 жыл бұрын
the cl500 ZAS has an oil pressure sensor. it is really easy to retrofit one to any m113k. the spot is already there, just the sensor some gaskets and you got your peace of mind. I got pictures and part numbers if you want to go that route.
@SnoopDocTX
@SnoopDocTX 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please link the part number and pictures? Would REALLY appreciate it... Thanks!
@AS-zx8ve
@AS-zx8ve 6 жыл бұрын
Anoop Patel sure. A1120150730, housing, mounted on the underside of the oil filter housing, needs m12x1.5 bolts. N000000001116, bolts as described. N007603012111, o ring. A1121840280, gasket. you may not be able to find it online but any dealership can get you these parts.
@radoliz2
@radoliz2 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a great video! Here is my solution! When your MB engine gets older, use a seal conditioner in the oil along with a quart of Motorkote to stop the heat of friction. Of course your application is racing, and most racing engines are torn down after so mile hrs and cycles. So, I would think the average MB owner would see a good o-ring for many more miles.
@mk3whitewide
@mk3whitewide 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. No oil pressure switch is just silly. A lot of trust huh amg?
@seancain7305
@seancain7305 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your engine failure - good detective work finding out the cause. Hope you're back running soon. BTW I've never seen drivers allowed to go on-track without a helmet.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 6 жыл бұрын
A Few points your very good video brings back from memory. 1)For many years race car mechanics have installed a big red warning light to warn the driver of oil pressure failure. A gauge is a good idea,but belt and suspenders here. When driving,keep it simple,you will not be concentrating on gauges. 2)Various race car parts houses sell different designs of oil accumulator,some with the idea of a driver actuated ball valve for a last ditch way to supply oil for a few moments anyway. A good idea here. Try Summit Racing for a start. 3) I would be pissed. At the very least,contact Mercedes-Benz with a polite but very firm letter,paper not electronic. How dare they allow a point source of failure like this. Since it is not backed up with an appropriate idiot light,they are the idiots here. Any American lawyer worth his salt would rub his hands at a potential class action lawsuit here. You will not be the only individual affected here. I would be enraged,not philosophical. Racing does indeed improve the breed. 4) Fix this so that there is a better pipe seal than just one O ring. That is just plain stupid. Is there any way you can install an A/N fitting instead of the O ring ? Even if it means modifying the end of the pipe as well. Good luck with your next engine,and for God's sake,go through it with a fine tooth comb. Happy track time in future.
@TheMoreCylindersTheBetter
@TheMoreCylindersTheBetter 6 жыл бұрын
paul manson mb would cite the EXTENSIVE modding he did to the vehicle as a reason for added stress and it would be good enough for almost every judge, if not every one.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 6 жыл бұрын
Larry Wilmore Hmm. Perhaps you are right. I suppose the real issue here is to put pressure on the engineering team supervisors not to be stupid with point source failure without warning light backup. Particularly that there is an on board computer capable of decision making in so many hundreds of microseconds. When 1981 model year rolled around and the on board became a reality,there was much talk of 'limp home mode ' . A solenoid could be empowered to trigger the emptying of an accumulator of oil.big warning light,timer,voice,limited power,and things I cannot think of that brighter boys with training can. If I can think of this,the fact that MB has not done some or all is more than bean counting. They should be ashamed of themselves. Look at the complexity of that disassembled engine compared to the 1955 revolutionary Chevy small block. The process engineering required to create the production line much less the engine is something they should be proud of. Not that many decades ago,an F1 engine was less complex. Point source failure is an embarrassment the militaries of the world have been tinkering for many decades. How dare MB allow that here. The more pressure on them the better.
@sthr2110
@sthr2110 6 жыл бұрын
Watching videos like this reminds me of why I elect to drive crappy, old cars that run well. When one breaks in a catastrophic manner, I junk it and buy another crappy, old car that runs well. My $150 Volvo has been going strong for years now. After 20 years of owning "special" cars, I finally learned my lesson.
@NotSoCrazyNinja
@NotSoCrazyNinja 6 жыл бұрын
The way you pronounce "cylinder" is really distracting me for some reason. Never heard anyone pronounce it like that, but I kind of like it. It makes me a bit angry that an o-ring, something that probably costs pennies, is the reason for an entire being utterly destroyed. It's like a house being burned down because of a single loose wire in one electrical outlet that was caused because of vibration from people walking over time. This is one reason I hate modern engines. There is so many parts, so much complexity, little things could be overlooked and those little things could destroy the engine.
@stefanthurm5475
@stefanthurm5475 4 жыл бұрын
I have an SL55 and as stated the oil pan setup is different on that particular m113k. Does anyone know if this also occurs on that setup?? Also, i am planning on taking preventative measures and just swapping out this o-ring now. Can someone please provide information on the correct replacement o-ring or an upgrade that can potentially last longer. Thank you so much for this video and letting the community know of this very serious issue!!
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 6 жыл бұрын
That sucks, that entire engine is shot, that's going to hurt the wallet.
@jospi2
@jospi2 6 жыл бұрын
Now he has a spare supercharger.
@HIIMUsc
@HIIMUsc 6 жыл бұрын
jospi2 not really if it seized up cuz of the nom-existend oil flow..
@halofreak1990
@halofreak1990 6 жыл бұрын
+ardi du Unlike turbochargers, superchargers don't require an external oil source.
@HIIMUsc
@HIIMUsc 6 жыл бұрын
halofreak1990 alright, didn‘t knew, since i never saw a Supercharger in real life, are they equipped with ball / cylinder bearings instead?
@Swanlord05
@Swanlord05 6 жыл бұрын
Nope put a ls1 in it
@numberpirate
@numberpirate 6 жыл бұрын
I would say piston side skirt welded to cylinder bore and then your statement about the crank trying to pull the big end of the rod down and snapping out the big end cap is true.
@wizlist4308
@wizlist4308 6 жыл бұрын
"keep in mind this is a time attack car. I've been using it on the track for the past two years" Every engine could brake after this .....
@serbancordis3416
@serbancordis3416 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Are all M112 and M113 engines affected by this? Or only the M113k?
@FrenchValleyAirport
@FrenchValleyAirport 6 жыл бұрын
it's cylinder, not sullinder
@robinscott2756
@robinscott2756 2 жыл бұрын
i’m sorry you had to go through this but i’m glad it was someone off your knowledge that was capable of tracking this issue down and finding it because just like you said you would of continued going on thinking that it was some other kind of issue that wasn’t party related
@mattnoble1015
@mattnoble1015 6 жыл бұрын
Put a LS engine in it Save your self tons of money
@1badhaircut
@1badhaircut 6 жыл бұрын
Sir - The fun you have racing has a higher purpose and this is it. Every MB owner of any engine without at least a big red light needs it - also preventative service - and legal if it’s too late. And spare replacement engines properly torn-down and upgraded ready to install. If you can find the smoking gun of engines -mb and others - you have a huge future ! Great 👍 catch.
@jarek928
@jarek928 6 жыл бұрын
2jz swap!
@Trident_Euclid
@Trident_Euclid 6 жыл бұрын
Jarek LS
@WelcomeToTheMadness
@WelcomeToTheMadness 6 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂 2J all the things!
@mahannaidu5228
@mahannaidu5228 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video it would be interesting to know if there is a provision to lnstall a oil pressure gauge in these engines,
@beachbummm69
@beachbummm69 6 жыл бұрын
Benz is over priced junk.. always has been..
@geyza0711
@geyza0711 6 жыл бұрын
*sent from an iPhone
@Namesi
@Namesi 6 жыл бұрын
ya sound like a poor
@MoveAhead101
@MoveAhead101 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that‘s why you where named Dick.
6 жыл бұрын
That's why no one buys German cars.
@MoveAhead101
@MoveAhead101 6 жыл бұрын
You know that „American v8“ are made in Germany, too? Eisenwerke Brühl near cologne puts out thousands a year.
@Timvdw650
@Timvdw650 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! im going to change the o-ring and add an oil pressure guage and visual audible warning while it is in my shop for the winter.
@jacquesvanzyl374
@jacquesvanzyl374 9 ай бұрын
Hi there How many miles on this m156?.....Well presented video
@TairnKA
@TairnKA 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully there's an upgraded (material) O-ring(s)? I wonder if there's a scheduled replacement date for both O-rings?
@takeiteasy_tv
@takeiteasy_tv 6 жыл бұрын
That's astounding that the engineers did not design an oil pressure sensor into the system. Especially on a high-performance engine like this. My W116 has an oil line that runs to the pressure gauge in the dash - super simple, easy to read. It seems that Mercedes vehicles would be invincible without their rubber components - O-Rings, Harmonic Balancer, Engine Mounts, Suspension Bushings, Air Springs - all common problems and all due to the degradation of the rubber compound. And, apparently, the oil system :( Great video but sorry this happened to you. Keep up the excellent work!
@ferfire9
@ferfire9 6 жыл бұрын
They are made to fail
@1970PMD
@1970PMD 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid, one of my favorite cars. Towards the end of the vid you do mention oil temp. gauge. All through the vid. I kept thinking that you should have added an oil temperature gauge, oil pressure gauge and better oil cooler since you are using the car for time attack. Hard lesson to learn, costly too. Looking forward to your new engine. Stay safe, keep the vids coming.
@ODamoo
@ODamoo 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice, not the blown up engine but tracing the cause. Cheers. Now III watch you second engine fail and see your take on that !! Cheers again.
@newtechgs7471
@newtechgs7471 6 жыл бұрын
I love engines, don't know much about them though as I'm not a mechanic. Really enjoyed this video, you're so skilled
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 6 жыл бұрын
How much does rebuilding a usable engine cost? Here is an even more interesting cost to ask. How much more would it have cost to use a copper or multi layer steel gasket where the O-ring was?
@MadMo-VFR
@MadMo-VFR 4 жыл бұрын
how many milee you have on it before it blew? is it a rebuilt and blew or an old engine giving up... thanks... awesome work!
@yairmiron329
@yairmiron329 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for all the informative video's 👍 So if i understood correctly for the CL 55's with the one big sump we dont need to worrie about this issue?
@ODMIJ084
@ODMIJ084 6 жыл бұрын
WOW great video, very throughout and comprehensive. Would love to see more videos like this. Very shocking Mercedes Benz doesn’t include an oil pressure gauge. Again keep up the great work and keep the videos coming
@niacal4nia
@niacal4nia 6 жыл бұрын
What's the crack next to the the O ring? You never mentioned if you hit the dump and lost oil.
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few oil starvation failures and it never fails to amaze me! The amount of damage an oil starvation causes is catastrophic! I had a BMW that had been overheated and dropped a valve retainer and the valve hit the piston and it was nothing on that!
@MercedesE63S-AMG
@MercedesE63S-AMG 4 жыл бұрын
So do CL55's have this problem?
@MrBraiden1
@MrBraiden1 24 күн бұрын
I got the same question! I have a cl55 and now know the pan is different but I’m changing my oil tomorrow! lol as well as sc oil! Sounds like if you do the proper maintenance on these engines they’ll never quit! Drop oil change intervals to 6000kms with synthetic if your above 180,000kms to save you in the long run! I like to drive mine kinda hard so good preventative maintenance
@MercedesE63S-AMG
@MercedesE63S-AMG 23 күн бұрын
@MrBraiden1 That goes for every Mercedes.
@trumanbeal
@trumanbeal 6 жыл бұрын
Gods of speed demand sacrifices from here to there! Great vid, even though it sucks that your engine was lost in the process.
@grahamrobson9292
@grahamrobson9292 4 жыл бұрын
How many stories of Trackdays and overheated scored bearings ?
@CreRay
@CreRay 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, and quite a spectacular engine fail! Incredible to learn that it doesn't have an oil pressure sensor, the last thing I would have expected from such an expensive car.
@davidcisneros1429
@davidcisneros1429 6 жыл бұрын
Very good and thorough analysis of the nonconformities that led to the engine failure. I think that Kevlar reinforcing for their O-rings would help to prevent them from coming apart and becoming a FOD issue, and would be a good engineering improvement for Mercedes in this case. Thanks for the heads up!
@朱建宇-e7k
@朱建宇-e7k 6 жыл бұрын
Was this sucked hole and o-ring's location of the oil pump dipped below the oil level surface when oil was enough?
@juancarloslozano3374
@juancarloslozano3374 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! So it's a must to change those oil pump O rings when the external oil level sensor starts to lick. I have a 2002 Saab 9-3 with 120k miles, and recently changed all the gaskets, O Rings, etc and I conclude it's the time, the old of the car who plastifies the rubber O rings on the engines and-, of course-, the heat and cold cycles. Also it's a good idea before stops a turbo or intercooled engine to let it COOL down, this way we allow the oil to cool and help those O rings to keep in good shape, but time has no mercy on the rubber, that's why tires manufacturers reccomend to change them, cause they are "old", even if they looks good..
@samsonn25
@samsonn25 6 жыл бұрын
Im curious what is the Dealer book rate for parts and labor if someone wanted to replace this O-ring every 100k miles??
@JanicekTrnecka
@JanicekTrnecka 6 жыл бұрын
Oil pressure check light is a must! Gauge is not, but helps you understand whats going on, helps you judge engine and oil state and if you arent pushing the engine too hard...
@axellludvic3490
@axellludvic3490 6 жыл бұрын
I have ever dealt with a problem with the m112 engine, the balancing shaft for the camshaft had sprockets which wore off quite rapidly. I noticed that problem during an oil change.
@tazak786
@tazak786 6 жыл бұрын
I don't own a Mercedes however very educational and to know this kind of issues existing on AMG engine. Great video
@robsycko
@robsycko 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 1989 Suzuki Swift 1.3 liter dohc with 419000 miles or 674315.136 kilometers and still going strong.
@chemistryguy678
@chemistryguy678 Жыл бұрын
Could you weld the oil tube in so it wouldn't need a rubber seal????🤔
@AverageNeighbor
@AverageNeighbor 6 жыл бұрын
Good video, why would the engineers not include a oil pressure sensor? That seems pretty important
@RollingThunder808
@RollingThunder808 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe there is no oil pressure sensor of any type. MB should be held liable for damages. Was there a required replacement in the maintenance?
@syntaxerorr
@syntaxerorr 6 жыл бұрын
That oil pump is so damaged. Something Slammed into that pump, that probably pulled the line out and broke the o-ring. How can you not even acknowledge the massive damage to the oil pump?
@TheTAEclub
@TheTAEclub 5 жыл бұрын
Are you fucking stupid or just trolling?
@EdBwoy
@EdBwoy 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very good video. I have also watched the follow up videos of the replacement engine and also installing the pressure gauge (odd why they stopped installing those from factory). The engines I play with also get damaged due to oil issues but it's more so due to some of them being oil burners and people neglecting to check their oil levels. I think an oil level sensor would be a good idea at least for those engines.*Nissan VK45DE* I have looked on Merc forums and I see that the sensor will give a warning in the car -*Engine level. Stop, engine off*. I like the simplicity of that. Not everyone who gets in a car knows that the red light that looks like an genie lamp is a Nissan oil pressure indicator and what to do with it.
@EdBwoy
@EdBwoy 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, also their oil pump inlets/outlets are 2 flat mating surfaces, not a tube-in design. They do use O-rings as well but they are used like washers, so the inlet is always sealed . 200,000 miles and the O-rings were still rubbery. Nissan did something right.
@xfmotorsports
@xfmotorsports 6 жыл бұрын
Yeh the oil level sensor was definitely a good addition in these engines but should have still kept an oil pressure imo. The new o-rings they supply now are a different material so I hope they last longer
@enjoythehunt5135
@enjoythehunt5135 6 жыл бұрын
Not an owner of this brand but very informative video and info. Thanks.
@jessedelgado7413
@jessedelgado7413 4 жыл бұрын
Can the oil pressure be checked via Scanner? Ever installed custom oil pressure gauge post lesson?
@killahjeep
@killahjeep 6 жыл бұрын
my uncle was a mercedes mechanic before he passed away. said theres an issue with the low oil sensors in the older mercs. especially if the oil pressure sensor orfice is blocked with carbon from old oil (think extended oil change intervals)...
@ordimex
@ordimex 5 жыл бұрын
Do you in chip-shop business? Introducing your parts?
@urban8644
@urban8644 4 жыл бұрын
Why the car don't show a low oil pressure alert ?
@aaronhowe3523
@aaronhowe3523 6 жыл бұрын
i haven't watched your other videos but if its a track car didn't you have an oil pressure gauge? The first thing i installed in my track car was oil temp and pressure gauges.
@r1richkr
@r1richkr 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I have a 2003 SL55 with a M113 engine. I'm not sure if it is a 113k as you referred to yours. How can I tell? I have 81000 miles on it, and it is not a track car. Mostly riding around town use. Do I have to worry? Not so many miles as yours, but it is 16 years and one month from date of delivery. Any comments would be appreciated. RR
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