Why N&W 475 was in Thomas & The Magic Railroad

[@AmtrakGuy365]

the N&W 475 excavator incident of november 2nd, 2022

[@Polaris5664]

Me when yt algorithm reccomends this to me due to that.

[@Spookster8178]

It did happen sadly

[@Spookster8178]

Smoke box door crumpled like tin foil

[@trainfan998]

Well now I feel even worst. I didn't know that was the engine used in the movie until now.

[@OfficialSEIC2K6]

Sadly 475 smokebox door was torn open. As for the steamer, it's in the Strasburg shops and it's stuck there until they get that door fixed.

[@jeffeffery8181]

that specific whistle effect is the WILHELM SCREAM of train sounds

[@fluffnose3386]

Honestly. And that horrendous annoying bell sound effect every train toy has.

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

It's a whistle that screams Roller Coaster Tycoon miniature railroad.

[@the_autism_express]

Yes

[@Toaster844]

Yes

[@JaxTrains]

So True

[@northernvirginianrailfan2116]

That Amtrak engine reflection is a bruh moment

[@genoobtlp4424]

I mean, you‘ve already got amfleets in Harrisburg, is it so unrealistic to have a P42 reflect in a window?

[@randomtransportguyx4397]

I'm a train guy from the UK so I have no idea what a p42 I know what Amtrak is just know idea what a p42 is

[@spiralhillrailfan3768]

trains n stuff The P42DC is a Locomotive used by VIA Rail and Amtrak, It has a predecessor which is the P40DC

[@SouthernKansasRailfan]

Bruh moment right here

[@genoobtlp4424]

@@randomtransportguyx4397 It's the main Amtrak diesel loco, although it's being slowly replaced by the US version of the vectron, afaik

[@NinjagoGuy416]

4:11 I’ve been watching this movie for my entire life and I never noticed the reflection of that Genesis locomotive until now! 🤯

[@Mnrr6131]

I noticed it when I watched it the first time. I still wanted a hooter on 475 compared to the step top 5 chime

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

I would have preferred the shop-built 3 chime

[@KorraDaTrainBuff]

This was really interesting! I had no idea that's why 475 was chosen. Considering you mentioned it, I'm surprised you didn't talk about how the reason 844 didn't "Reprise" its role as the Rainbow Sun was because it was out of service due to a flue failure that occurred earlier that year

[@quillmaurer6563]

Good point. Not to mention that 844 is a much larger locomotive with associated greater operating costs, renting it for filming would probably have been much more expensive. I never got the sense this movie had a huge budget to work with. The Shining Time Station clip of that locomotive I would assume was stock footage.

[@oakrail8100]

@@quillmaurer6563 Yep,It Was Takeing From Some VHS Tapes

[@Gulliblepikmin]

You could even say the reason the engine couldn't reprise it's role is because it got *the flue.*

[@smolboy1237]

@@quillmaurer6563 not to mention it had suffered a tube failure in the boiler around that same year (1999). So it was in no shape to run.

[@CNTrainMan5762]

@@smolboy1237 Also, knowing Union Pacific, I wouldn’t be surprised if they said that they didn’t want Britt Allcroft closing down their line just for a stupid kids movie, not that I think it’s stupid at all, but just knowing Union Pacific, they probably would’ve said that.

[@BlindingLight]

Finally, an explanation for the question I’ve had ever since I watched Thomas and the Magic Railroad again.

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

This movie's plot was so confusing to me as a kid... I remember asking, "why is sugar Diesel's enemy?"

[@jamesgroccia644]

I think it has something to do with sugar combining with #10’s air-fuel mixture and seizing up his engine. To quote Alec Baldwin from that scene, “I dump this [sugar] in your tank it’ll seize you up for good!” But I’m not too well-versed in the science behind the railroads; I’m in it for the steamers.

[@quillmaurer6563]

My guess is it's sort of like James speculated, I know that there's at least a myth that sugar in a vehicle's fuel tank will destroy the engine. Though I've seen numerous tests, including by Mythbusters, that debunked that, didn't seem to bother the engine at all. Though that was with gasoline engines, it might be more problematic for diesels. Maybe it gunks up the unit injectors and blocks fuel. If so, the movie could have explained that better, it doesn't seem like something that would be obvious to kids, or really to anyone. It also seems implausible for that to be a serious threat to Diesel 10 as Mr. Conductor would have to remove the fuel cap and dump probably a very large quantity of sugar (enough to sufficiently contaminate thousands of gallons of diesel fuel) into a sentient diesel locomotive with a murder-claw on the roof. If he could have done that to Diesel 10, there's plenty of other stuff he could have done (fuses? You won't be needing these!) I don't think just throwing a bag of sugar at him could have done anything.

[@thesilversignal]

@@quillmaurer6563 But he could pour it into the mouth of #10, due to the theory that the mouths of the engines lead to the fuel tank, or boiler, or whatever form of fuel/water storage inside the engine.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@thesilversignal True, it all depends on how we theorize their world works, which is pretty ambiguous and at times inconsistent (Magic Railroad the locomotives can operate themselves and are usually driverless, while most other Thomas renditions they have to be driven by people, in fact several times they have run away and been unable to stop themselves). But again, good luck pouring a large quantity of sugar into the mouth (which presumably could be closed) of a sentient locomotive with murder claw on the roof.

[@hyperionwhitestar1453]

@@quillmaurer6563 Or the horrific universe of Shed17/Project G-1.......uugh gods...

[@EMD_F59PHI]

*I Already knew YT was gonna recommend me this. Someone accidentally aligned the switch to some magic buffers, only for her to get punctured on the face. Jokes aside, I came as soon as I heard about 475. I hope 475's Cosmetic procedure er- restoration goes well.*

[@wildwind413]

I came here knowing people would comment about the excavator, and I was not disappointed. Get well soon 475

[@DiamondDude-so6dz]

💎the irony of this being recommended to me now of all times💎

[@coolkirk1701]

PSA: If this movie was anyone else’s childhood, I’d like to pass on the good news that they’re celebrating the 20th anniversary of the film on October 24th. Edit: specifically they’re celebrating it by showing it in theaters.

[@kevincook7524]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?!?!?

[@fastoutnotforkids7192]

Wait really? Thats awesome! All they need to do now is come out with a HO scale (or other scales) lady!

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

This............... Does puts a smile on my face

[@TrainsCatsOtherStories]

Great news everyone! The Magic is back! 475 is back in service. And it only took them 1 week to fix her! Thats awesome!

[@sirrliv]

Now we'll just wait for the follow up episode about how and why Castletown Station on the Isle of Man was chosen to represent Shining Time Station's exterior shots, why it was given a gaudy clapboard cladding, why East Strasburg station wasn't used for Shining Time, and why the filmmakers didn't choose an engine from the IoMSR. No, it's cool. Take your time. We'll be waiting patiently...

[@DmanOfficial15]

Bro chill. No need to be so salty

[@Soundwave3591]

Shining Time is set in the USA. an IoM engine would be anachronistic.

[@sirrliv]

@@DmanOfficial15 Wasn't meaning to be salty, just comedically sarcastic. I meant it as a joke, though I'm sorry if it didn't come across as such.

[@armchairrocketscientist4934]

Interesting video! I loved this movie as a kid, and actually got a bit disappointed when it went from the real trains back to Thomas 😄 I also loved seeing the 844 in shining time station. Later on in life, found out to my astonishment that my great grandpa fired the 844.

[@lukechristmas3951]

I always liked the song "I Know How The Moon Must Feel" and my little sister loved the song too. For the longest time, I always thought it was a 2-8-0 Consolidation because of the limited views on the engines wheels. 4-8-0s are such a rare type of engine and so, in a way, the movie was pretty much the best way to promote the 4-8-0 engines.

[@ItsRailfanAmelia]

4:10 I didn’t know 111 was the P42 in the movie xD Literally didn’t realize that I caught the exact same locomotive breaking down a few months ago xD

[@Ferrocarril_Chicago]

I've always loved that movie growing up! I knew Amtrak was significantly involved in the making of this film, but I had no idea they were as involved as they were. Can't say I'm surprised though. I've heard rumors about there potentially being a remake of this movie. If that's the case and they plan to use Strasburg and the Keystone Corridor again, I certainly wonder how that's going to go over with Positive Train Control, of course that is if anything has yet been done to the Keystone regarding PTC.

[@sonic23233]

They put an ad for Amtrak in the vhs release for the movie

[@CassandraPantaristi]

Remaking this movie would kinda be a bummer. Both Russell Means and Peter Fanda are dead. We don't really need a remake, we have a blu-ray release of the movie. I'm also kind of sick of the age of remakes. Not everything should be remade.

[@ishirotanaka]

Another reason why UP 844 didn’t appear in Thomas and the magic railroad was because she was under overhaul during production since one of her flue pipes burst during rail fair ‘99 in Sacramento.

[@leonkernan]

Thomas told the excavator he was not very useful. From that day on, the excavator planned his revenge!

[@Mountaindivisionrailfan252]

That’s such a cool engine. I’m sure it won’t ever hit an excavator!

[@ambermolohon3986]

I bet the locomotives pulling those Amtrak trains would be like "Good grief they have one of those oversized teapots on this line how filthy no care for the environment"

[@eiansmemesanddumbstuff9710]

Woa, last time I was this early I was born

[@thenorgalofthehills5688]

Actually, the diesel that trailed 475 was an Amtrak Pumpkin Geep (Orange High Hood)

[@StocktonSubber]

Mentioning the elephant in the room, I think you should mention on how 1225 was indirectly featured in The Polar Express

[@Latte-z1t]

The train in the Polar Express doesn’t look anything like 1225

[@armchairrocketscientist4934]

4:25 - Augh! That dagum stock whistle sound is everywhere! Can't anyone find something a little different once in a while?

[@wooohooo771]

It's probably the Wilhelm Scream of train sounds... as well as this overused diesel horn sound effect here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWbVlXmGpc2MgJo

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

@@wooohooo771 its everywhere

[@Mnrr6131]

That is true

[@samuelathanassiou]

@@Mnrr6131 Yeah! I really depise that piece of dog lut! I pefer the Engine Roll Call whistle over this!

[@thatoneuberedsoldier4505]

Oh okay yt recommend this NOW real classy

[@MSTT257]

611 is like: 475 Bro?! Where ya at! 475: Why do I have to work a movie?

[@wingshad0w00982]

Ok, but why did George Carlin host shining time station? After replacing Ringo Starr. Because... That was a thing.

[@TheTrueAdept]

Because he wanted to have his children and/or grandchildren to not hear his foul-mouthed triads that made up his comedy skits...

[@DaylightTwinkle]

Aaron Neumann and became the narrater for thomas

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

George wanted to show off a gentler side of himself. He even spoke fondly of his time on the show in interviews years after the fact.

[@TheTrueAdept]

@@JCBro-yg8vd yes, and his take on Donald and Douglas's accent is probably one of the best I've heard... while still being audible... although David Tennant as Scrouge McDuck in the Ducktales remake takes my #1 spot (although, David being actually Scottish really sells it).

[@Pershingtank]

I liked Carlin a whole lot better than Baldwin...I particularly hated the voice Baldwin would give for Henry.

[@CyTheRabbit]

Holy cow I never even knew this engine and shots taken were from Strasburg! This just makes me want to visit even more.

[@maxrailroad]

Happy to have contributed footage for this video. Nice work!

[@cybertroniccustomz998]

Thomas and the magic railroad will forever be my childhood favorite no matter how much hate the movie receives

[@PlushworksInc.]

it would have been funny if the train crashed into an exavator in the movie and pulled a simpsons moment

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

I remember seeing TATMR when it first came out in the US. I loved the scenes with 475 in them. I’ve always considered 475 as part of the cast of TATMR. I also noticed the p40dc in the window reflection and came up with a head-canon for why it’s there. My theory is that 475’s “rainbow sun” train is actually a ferry train taking passengers from Harrisburg to Strasburg railroad’s Shining Time Station. The station at Harrisburg is owned by Amtrak hence the P40dc but they allow the Rainbow Sun special access to the station’s far-right platform

[@the_autism_express]

On my first visit to Strasburg, I was lucky enough to see 475 and referred to it as "a movie star" throughout my visit

[@EpicRails]

How did 475 go from this movie roll, to being “accidentally” rammed into an excavator

[@SONICX1027]

I’m here after the accident and I’m also here to say that it’s back in action

[@weylinwest9505]

That's good news! They managed to fix 'er up quick. Was the damage not as bad as it looked?

[@evanj2400]

Excavator not included

[@DanielGomez-gw4kt]

AmtrakGuy365 it's a good thing you talked about Strasburg Railroad 475. I first got to know this locomotive from Thomas and the Magic Railroad myself, this is a very honored to celebrate 20 years of the movie

[@GMan9029]

Hey man thanks for using my clip! This video turned out great!

[@bowlerstuff9589]

When the engine from a Thomas film has a Thomas like accident

[@SeanBodine]

I remember seeing 475 for the very first time in America By Rail. Your video has excellent details.

[@ClassyHotdog]

I wonder if this locomotive will meet an excavator!

[@crystalmccallcrystalssoaps2752]

475 Smashed Into in excavator

[@CarolinaRailfan-1702]

844's clips were from the the documentary "Eighty Four Fourty Four" in 1981. also TATMR is also my favorite thomas movie.

[@cadetkohr5508]

I'm honestly kind of sad they didn't use the N&W hooter in the movie. It's one of the few hooters I like and they used, as Jeff Effery said, the Wilhelm scream of whistles.

[@ottomatic6432]

I’m glad 475 was not wearing its original number plate on the front when the excavator incident happened. It would’ve been destroyed otherwise.

[@sage3342]

the algorithm seems to have given this a boost because of the accident today...

[@striker9136]

I remember watching this when i was 9 and only last year i finally went to Strasburg from my home in Tennessee and realized after that the engine that pulled the train i was on looked familiar with one a few months ago i remembered that it was the same as from TATMR.

[@mattsmocs3281]

Fun Fact: strasburg 90 only made a single trip off railroad in its Strasburg owned career. It served as lead loco in a excursion in 1968, with the normal 2 G5s used by High Iron Company being used in emergency service to heat Reading when the steam company suffered a failure, Steamtown 127 took the train solo from Jersey City to Bethlehem PA where 90 was hitched on the front to help the train climb over to Ashely PA. On the down hill run 90 derailed forcing the train to stop and for help in form of a RSD-4 to arrive from the helper track. Bringing the train into town. They ran around after wyeing the power and the RSD lead giving a triple header back up (struggling as was 127 but 90 faired well) and they successfully completed the trip dropping 90 at Bethlehem for servicing before running light back to Strasburg. Considering the fact it derailed on a line that did run 2-10-0s for a time being it probably contributed to the fact it was not sent off road again.

[@thesealsharkproductions9780]

Look at modern events and think, I’m commenting the day after she hit an excavator

[@NSTrainGuy8099]

And now it hits an excavator...

[@SchardtCinematic]

I even to Strasburg many times since I was a kid in the 70s and took my own kids there in 2007 and 2012. I'm not to far away living in York County. Never realized Mara Wilson's scenes were filmed in Harrisburg. That's really cool

[@patrickwebb7311]

I also wonder if 844 wasn't available at the time. I'd imagine Union Pacific would be a bit hesitant to remove their heritage fleet star for a film shoot, or perhaps it would've been more expensive? Regardless, I love that 475 got to be in the limelight. It's how I first became aware of her.

[@hunterneitzel3012]

She was out of service due to a mechanical problem at the time of filming

[@eliotreader8220]

thank you for the information on how steam locomotive 475 was used in the filming of Thomas and the Magic railway i can't believe that they ran her along the modern railroad from her home and back for 50 miles and she only needed her tender tank refilling with water

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Strasburg has one of the best small steam locomotive shops in the US, they keep their locos in tip top shape.

[@MasterGamer88]

Man it is freaky how my life has followed some of the landmarks of this train. At least once a year as a kid my parents would take me to Strasburg and ride on those cars and were most likely being pulled by this train. Then fast forward by about 20 years give or take and I've moved to the Midwest. I end up going on a road trip to take a ride on the Boone & Scenic Railway because we were in the neighborhood to visit the "Future birthplace of Captain Kirk." Now I find I'm a stone's throw away from the Illinois Railroad Museum. Funny how life works out but I never thought I'd be tied to this train.

[@isaiahwilliams2642]

That's really cool that Britt was aware of O Winston Links photos. I would love to see a mainstream film try to replicate the spirit of his photos.

[@RichManSCTV0]

I used go to Strasburg every year when I was little, as well as the train Museum and toy train Museum

[@lysander.o.c.3580]

Thomas and the Magic Railroad is my favorite Thomas the tank engine and friends movie

[@SchardtCinematic]

Pennsylvania has had so many movies filmed here. Witness staring Harrison Ford was also filmed in Strasburg (the farm) train station scenes in Philadelphia. The Pay Phone Scenes and Street fight scene all right near Kitchen Kettle Village. I took photos of the street and houses scene in that scene and also Zimmermans store with the pay phone booth still up on the porch in 2017. The Village by M. Night filmed one more county over along Cossard Rd. The village was built in that field. Rocky of course mostly filmed in Philadelphia as well for many of the series. Pittsburgh and surrounding areas used by Grorge Remoro for his Zombie films. Most notably the Monrovillr Mall for Dawn of the Dead.

[@AZ-2933]

So that’s where the whistle was from...

[@floopismcfloorpus4396]

Man, Strasburg #475 is such a cool engine, I sure hope nothing bad happens to it involving an excavator…

[@stuartbarclay7940]

0:00-0:07 TATMR is my favourite Thomas movie too!😁

[@annagolaszewska2816]

If you ask me, i think 475 fits much better with the sunny countryside scenery of Shining Time then UP 844. Good video as always dude 👍

[@SRTRailfanProduction]

4:08 why amtrak 111 in thomas and the magic railroad?!

[@joshuamoore2363]

Harrisburg as a big city in PA and Castletown as shining time in Isle of Man.

[@gustman9048]

I grew Up with the VHS version

[@BeaverBoy7]

I haven’t seen that movie in like a decade. Time flys by so fast.

[@brianpacos4072]

That's not 475's builder's photo. That's her after having that gaudy disguise applied. The large USRA tender was not original to the locomotive.

[@lunatrain]

Just saw on virtual railfan 475 suffered heavy front end damage after colliding with a mini excavator on the track. Lets hope she's not done for good.

[@BenBensonStudios]

This was a very nice video, Jared!

[@Benthetrainkid]

Imagine if Strasburg dressed up 475 as "Indian Valley #475" and gave it a CN 5-chime for the Day out with Thomas events

[@Basinrails]

That’s not actually what a CN 5 chime sounds like

[@Benthetrainkid]

@@Basinrails ?

[@RichardAndewSwayne]

Also it's nice to have more then one Baldwin in one film.

[@peterrosenquist]

844 was out service between June 1999 and 2005 because of an incident that happened at Railfair 99.

[@BNSFTrains10]

4:11 In fact yes you are correct this was P42 111 as the unit was built in 1997 making it 2 Years Old during the filming. It would be Repainted to Phase V in 2004. Today the Triple 1 P42 Unit is still in service with Amtrak.

[@jackharris4841]

I Didn't Even Notice 475 Was In It 😮

[@Thomasboi01]

I'm glad that 475 is still operating trains today the strasburg railroad really knows how to take care of 475 and it's other steam engines for that matter.

[@Traincraft101]

I'm literally going there in a week maybe i'll see 475

[@joneau261]

We now know why you can’t put the Rainbow Sun through the magic buffers.

[@jacobwalker6092]

Awesome vid man, I like how you used TATMR blu ray bts

[@blairterry9435]

475 was the only steam locomotive in the 90s to travel to Harrisburg's old Pennsylvania RR's old Harrisburg passenger terminal. The last engine was there was Reading 2102 in the 80s.

[@railgun222]

That’s really interesting, Especially how the Whistle was changed.

[@quillmaurer6563]

What I wonder is if they changed out the whistle on the locomotive, or just the sound effect in post-production?

[@thomasnumber1609]

I bet Union Pacific RR No. 844 was busy with work & couldn't reprise it's role as Rainbow Sun or it would be too heavy for Strasburg RR's tracks.

[@LanesTrains]

Awesome video! I always wondered why 475 was used but now i know.

[@jg-7780]

For like $400 Strasbourg RR will let you actually engineer (or be the fireman for about $300) of 475 for about 30 min, going back and forth twice between Paradise and a point just under a mile down the line. You operate the gear changing, throttle, brakes, bell, whistle, and more, all closely supervised of course. I got to experience it for my 18th birthday and it was amazing!

[@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake]

Strasburg* Strasbourg is a French city

[@trainfan998]

They better fix the engine.

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

4:10 you guessed right

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

I think I should mention in the colouring in book Adaption of Thomas and the Magic Railroad they made the rainbow sun locomotive based on an E2 Thomas's basis just with an American style front on the boiler

[@gomile1000]

Seeing as how that shot is in the station and they were shooting between Amtrak arrivals, I don't think that 111 was the helper engine. I tried looking some stuff up but didn't find much. However, the last uploaded picture of 111 I could find was Oct 1, 2020 so it's still around.

[@tjmfarming9584]

How interesting 🤔 I have always enjoyed TATMR as a kid, and as an Aussie I wasn’t familiar with the American shining time. But one quest I’ve always had was what steam engine was that. Now, my question has finally been answered by the legend himself Good job mate

[@tristanbentz224]

my home town springgrove is right in the middle of Harrisburg and York love the vid keep it up

[@carolinarailfanproductions]

Who’s here rewatching this video because of strasburg 475’s crash?

[@jiifigmentforever]

I also seem to remember that, in a coloring book they released with T&tMR that my mom bought for me when I was little, there was a difference. Instead of 475 the coloring book used 90's number with 475's body. I always thought this was weird as a kid. I presume now it was because 90 was easier to print than 475 since they could make the numbers bigger in the book, but that always bugged me having been to Strasbourg many times. Anyone else know of this?

[@braysonsteeber7346]

A 4-8-0 is one of the strangest wheel arrangements on an American steam loco in my opinion. Aside from a 6-8-6 or an 2-8-8-8-4

[@FRailFan]

I mean the whole concept of geared steam locomotives is pretty strange. Innovative nonetheless of course.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

2-10-0 is pretty strange as well.

[@DaylightTwinkle]

They also did the pt boomer scenes with #475 when pt boomer was crossing the tracks with his motorcycle and 475 coming in and nearly crushing him, doing it safely of course.

[@KCDash4400cw]

Along came mr excavator

[@callumnichols7652]

The magic railroad is my favorite t&f movie

[@CassandraPantaristi]

Mine too.

[@ryanmoberley7452]

That's why I chose that Locomotive as my mascot.

[@jacobmaurin7549]

Well now I know. Thank you I've always wondered what was going on with that locomotive.

[@freddyfax]

this didn’t age well…

[@lostonessoul5154]

gotta say I love that whistle. even if it's a out of tune canadian whistle. As a kid it's always what I heard when I tought of the phrase "Big locomotive" The image of the 475 along with it. If I had the time I might've made this rainbow sun express.