Why NBA job requirements are different from other team sports

[@cowabunga-san3417]

I have, never in my life, thought of basketball this way. I have no clue why it's never occurred to me that every position has the EXACT same job. Now I wanna see Kofie do a 2k simulation where it's all 10 99 rating cloned LBJs (the human Swiss army knife of NBA players) vs 10 other 99 rated players, but there's two players of each position.

[@frankachtou]

that's the fun thing about the GOAT debate in basketball. To me it's about who do you clone and put on all 5 positions. LBJ is for sure the GOAT in my opinion if you think about it this way. He literally played all 5 position and dominated each one. A team of 5 lebron would beat a team of 5 name-anybody-ever.

[@WalkoffGrandslam]

5 Hakeems defense would be a hard thing to overcome.​@@frankachtou

[@WalkoffGrandslam]

​@@frankachtouor 5 Wilts...

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

@@WalkoffGrandslamMagic could work too

[@OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Can a team of 15 Shoheis win the NBA Title?

[@Kriton_QVO]

Well... here is the obvious answer: football/soccer For example, Peter Crouch (2,02m/6'7 1/2) and Lionel Messi (1,70m/5'7 on a tall day) did not only play the same sport, but also the same position Group as strikers (Crouch as middle- and messi as middle/wing- striker) That would be compareble to if Allen Iverson and Shaq both played as fowards (Edit: Grammar)

[@blah2blah65]

Football/soccer also has very few positional rules. Other than goalie with allowance of using hands and arms, every position can do what all the others can. Everyone including the goalie can pass, tackle, score, throw the ball in, take a corner, penalty, commit fouls, receive cards, etc.

[@blah2blah65]

Their body types are also relatively homogeneous compared to a sport like American Football. Although height has variety for all positions except goalies, which of course favors the tall, professionals are lean having to run a long distance in a match with bursts of high speed. It is a sport of agility.

[@OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

One of Crouch's managers also apparently loved subbing in a super-short dude for him just because he loved how hilarious it looked.

[@janssenmccormick7824]

Akinfenwa would like a word 😆

[@GuelermeDias]

You can go even further than that, Romário was 5'4 and Soteldo from Venezuela is about 5 foot flat, and they're both strikers. Of course, they have wildly different styles of play but it is the same position in the end.

[@TheFinalEvent97]

4:30 Funny thing is the NBA does have a rule for lifting /throwing teammates but it doesn't apply on defense, Rule 10 Section XII b- Illegal Assist in Scoring states that "A player may not assist a teammate to gain height while attempting to score" and the penalty is a turnover.

[@supitschillbro]

differently, college basketball does have a rule against it in general. Rule 10, Section 4, Article 1, b. says “ Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure a greater height” is a technical foul.

[@MuttonErase]

​@supitschillbro just gotta make it look like its not intentional. The one Ant block highlight where it looks like he just 50 inches. He only got it cuz he got boosted by a teammate. Jumped over a teammate who was jumping

[@churdle92]

Will: “I’m the basketballs!”

[@matchsticks4]

Not sure if auto racing qualifies, but in 60s rallys and historic races today (esp at Goodwood), the Minis vs. V8 American cars made their speed in very different ways. Minis don't need to brake and carry speed in and through corners, while the hefty American cars would blow past them on the straights but come to a near halt to make the corner

[@DrZaius3141]

In general, being short makes you much more agile and faster in most settings (because you will have higher acceleration which trumps the top speed in anything that isn't a full 100m sprint). Also, as you alluded, short people usually have to work a lot harder which gives them technique as well as work ethic and coachability.

[@keithfriestad3949]

Also, short players almost always have more secure handles since the ball spends much less time going from the hand to the floor and back, and the space where a defender can put their hand to disrupt a dribble is much smaller. For example wemby and Kevin Durant are about as skilled as you can get for tall players, but both are more prone to losing their dribble than shorter players of roughly equivalent skill level like a Derrick white or Tyrese maxey.

[@uuh4yj43]

the thing is, for the difference in agility to matter in basketball it usually takes a big height disparity, which is why we dont see point guards attacking forwards in pnr that often, even tho sometimes the difference in size is pretty large. they usually attack 6'8 and up guys. due to this, a lot of point guards today are the size of forwards anyway, because the difference in this agility and speed usually comes down to physical traits such as power or coordination more so than height, especially height difference, weight difference probably mattering more so since inertia will cap change of direction speed and acceleration. the ratio of size to power for acceleration also is very similar until you reach 6'5 or so, which is demonstrated by the demographics of top sprinters, most are in the range of average height to above average height in america, which is the height range for guards in the nba.

[@DrZaius3141]

@@uuh4yj43 Basketball is fairly unique because it's a sport that values height more than any other sport except for volleyball. This means that you need to bring a lot to the table in order to compensate for that.

[@psymar]

things short people are good for: 1) getting things off the low shelves I can't reach because my knees suck 2) stealing the ball before you look down that far 3) other generally being sneaky

[@OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

*Lance Stephenson reaches down to untie your shoelaces*

[@kimkatyaharley]

in dnd 5e gnomes get +2 to charisma

[@jmgonzales7701]

if this was a bit fantasical, i would say dwarves are the best for fighting. They are strong and can lift more than most men, they have high endurance and they can jump really High to make up for their reach. Makes me think about tyson being shorter means less of a target. The main advantage of the big guy is actually not length but their weight potential. If everyone was built like tyson and had more endurance i would say they would have more things they would be good at.

[@6thwilbury2331]

Okay, the next guy who tells a short guy joke is getting punched in the shin.

[@psymar]

@@jmgonzales7701 Well and the other advantage of taller dudes in boxing is longer arms. And teach helps quite a bit, but it does mean your punches need to cover more distance

[@mcj88]

I remember in 2010, when the Boston Bruins were visiting the Tampa Bay Lightning, and after a back-and-forth of questionable hits Lightning enforcer Steve Downie started to shove Bruins captain Zdeno Chara around, trying to goad him into a fight. Steve Downie was 5'11" - fairly short for an athlete, but to be fair to him still far from the shortest player in hockey. Zdeno Chara was 6'9" - the tallest player in NHL history. After a few shoves, Chara drops the gloves and just wails on him.

[@chittsy99]

I think the obvious answer is rugby. It is legal for everyone to basically do everything, and yet within the game there are often huge size discrepancies between positions on the field (look up peter stringer during the national anthem for a laugh)

[@RiverM8rix]

It’s funny comparing this to Fumble Dimension, where they had an entire episode dedicated to how a bunch of 5’8” players with no offensive ability would stack up against one giant. (It wasn’t the original point of that video, but it was the funniest outcome)

[@jmgonzales7701]

obviously being bigger is better.

[@bigpoppa1234]

In Cricket, Billy Stanlake (6'8) played 20 odd short form internationals for Australia and at least some of those were with David Warner who is only 5'6. Sachin Tendulkar, one of the GOAT players is 5'4, and he played with Ishant Sharma who is 6'4. There's a similar "tall vs short" photo when they ended up batting together in 2008 against Australia in Sydney.

[@baileymclellan3673]

Right now, I am watching Marco Jansen (2.06m or 6'9) play with Temba Bavuma (1.62m or 5'4) in cricket for South Africa

[@yoavcohen2218]

I think Aussie rules is another great example. You can have super short midfielders alongside super tall mids. You have small and tall forwards small and tall defenders. The ruck is the only position in which it has to be a tall guy.

[@jmgonzales7701]

is height required in cricket

[@bigpoppa1234]

@@jmgonzales7701 No, not really. The most height impacted positions are wicketkeeper, who want to be smaller because their role requires a lot of bending and quick movements. After that, it's less "required" more like good fast bowlers are usually pretty tall, and good batsmen are often smaller.

[@Luxatos]

It's amazing to me that although Shaquille O'Neal was notoriously bad at shooting free throws, he was actually better at it than the legendary Wilt Chamberlain.

[@skewballzz777]

Hockey has a ton of size variation, mostly due to it being played similarly to basketball with exception to the goaltenders. A few seasons ago my hometown Edmonton Oilers had a Defenceman who stood at 6’7, and a scoring winger who was 5’5 (Vincent Desharnais and Kailer Yamamoto). Sports are fun!

[@jmgonzales7701]

Personally its why i grew to love American football anymore. I just like the idea of specialized roles, it reminded me of chess.

[@zenonian_wanderer]

Technically I think the only real rules for positions in NFL football are the ones determining eligible receivers, so you could say there are only two "jobs" on paper in football, people who aren't allowed to be given the ball and everyone else. Even the seemingly position-specific rules like "roughing the passer" actually just apply to anyone who is attempting a pass. Granted, football positions have obviously become far more specialized than basketball positions over time in large part due to the ability to substitute players between each play.

[@dfp_01]

Sure, but over time, even if it's not codified in the rules, it has made the most sense to have the big bulky people do the least amount of running (although they can be surprisingly fast and nimble), and many of them have only one position on the line that they excel at, whether that be at left guard on offense or as a 5-technique on defense. It's even gotten to the point where the broad "wide receiver" category now encompasses several different body types that all do different things: big boundary receivers who can man up a defensive back and make contested catches, small lean wideouts who can stretch the field vertically, and then the various flanker/slot/hybrid end types who have the agility to run all types of routes and evade defenders after the catch. And as that has changed, defensive backfields have become more specialized as well to counter it, because every offensive position has a corresponding defensive position.

[@uuh4yj43]

american football probably has the most specialized positions in american sport besides baseball. you have one team for defense, one for offense and special team for kicking and punting. in each of these teams there are highly specialized players who usually only perform one singular role. most sports dont have codified field positions, same with american football, but they are highly specialized in american football much more so than most other sports. even soccer and hockey, which have goalies as a specialized position, still have players performing double duty on offense and defense.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Personally its why i grew to love American football anymore. I just like the idea of specialized roles, it reminded me of chess. Thou I kinda missed the players who had like double roles like they can sometimes play defense and sometimes play on offense.

[@DaDualityofMan]

Even then the NFL has more versatile positions than ever now, FB is barely a position anymore and now it’s mostly “just throw anybody who weighs more than 250lbs back there”, sometimes OLBs and DEs are indistinguishable, WRS lining up as RBs, all QBs are good at running now, etc.

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@jmgonzales7701Yeah it’s the “ultimate team sport” and there’s a position for everybody no matter their size

[@v0rp4l]

It is interesting that you brought up sumo in the context of "heavy weight" but grand sumo wrestling has this very dynamic of really big and also surprisingly small wrestlers because there are no weight divisions.

[@Brahmabullz]

Shaq was exceptionally skilled, especially earlier in his career. His skillset shown best below the elbow, same way Yuki is basically useless below the elbow.

[@ianism3]

random tidbit about Brandon Banks: after basically not making in the NFL, he played 9 seasons in the CFL, having a successful career as an elite punt returner and receiver. he's probably most famous for his feats in the 2014 playoffs, where in the semi-final he returned two punts for TDs and a third one was recalled on a holding call. then in the Grey Cup (final) he returned another punt for a touchdown to put his team in front with less than one minute left in the game, only for it to get called back on another holding call. his team ended up losing the game.

[@austinaustinaustin]

Years ago I messaged Seth just to ask if a basketball player could lift a teammate up to dunk, he sent me the ruling on it and was super kind. Thanks Seth, happy thanksgiving ✌️

[@ShynyMagikarp]

I know this is not super relevant to the video's topic, but can I just say I LOVE seeing Ryan Simmons back in the videos again? I know he's been working hard at Secret Base all along and I always appreciate him, (as well as everyone else at Secret Base, you all rock!) but I *did* miss seeing Ryan appearing a lot. Love to see him back. This ReFrame series has been a lot of fun the past few episodes!

[@dliessmgg]

An interesting sport when it comes to positions is football (soccer). Technically only the goalie has different rules to what they can do, but the pitch is so large that different jobs naturally emerge. The attacker has to put the round in the rectangle. The midfielder has to prepare the attack by navigating the ball through the opposing team. The defenders have to prevent the opposing attackers from putting the round in the rectangle. On top of that, there's specialisations within these three sections depending on body type and individual talents and such. For single person sports, there's two interesting examples I could think of: Decathlon combines a variety of summer olympic disciplines into one thing, and everyone has their speciality discipline, but also needs to be competent at all the others. Biathlon combines cross-country skiing with target shooting. The skiing part makes you out of breath, but the shooting part requires breath control.

[@janssenmccormick7824]

There is one distance event in Biathlon where it is possible to win by ski maxxing, missing every shot and eating the penalty laps. The only issue is that you have to be a WC level cross country skier to out run the maximum penalty laps at which point you might as well just go with XC

[@jmgonzales7701]

Decathlon is so goated man, If i could become an athlete i would choose decathlon, its just the perfect test of overall Physical athleticism IMO, probably wouldn't get much glory compared to basketball, football etc but it would be fun to compete. Just wish there was more sports in track in general i feel like it has a lot of potential.

[@dasamont8274]

As you mentioned, volleyball has rules about positions that kinda decide what body types are good for what, but these are actually optional. There's only one position that requires special rules (the libero), and a team can choose to not use that position. You could technically field 6 players, and you could play a simple system where everyone does everything. But most team use the positional system where your body type sorta decides your position. If you're short and springy, you play libero. If you're left-handed or bulky, you're usually playing opposite. If you're fast, you're setter. If you're very tall, you're a middle. And if you're anything else, you're an outside hitter. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general, these are attributes coaches consider when picking positions for a team. And you can generally know what position a volleyball player plays just by looking at them. But, as a quite tall guy, I have played every position, because I have the curse of being a jack of all trades and master of none, which is not a good thing to be in volleyball. What were we talking about again?

[@caspenbee]

"5'10 soaking wet" is so funny to me

[@johnzengerle7576]

When Aaron Judge hit a home run, Ronald Toreyes would be lifted up by a teammate to give him a high five. When Toreyes hit a home run, Judge tried to have a teammate lift him up, but the guy really struggled to keep him lifted.

[@Densemankat]

Jon Bois is eleven and a half feet tall and y’all didn’t get him for this video?

[@---l---]

5:08 Fighter Pilots. The cockpit is tiny. Its why Tom Cruise is perfect for Top Gun movies

[@titusmagnuseinuniversumaus6354]

Tanks.

[@Para20Site]

3:12 Adding the constraints of "who can go where and who can do what" to Basketball gives you Netball.

[@uuh4yj43]

truee

[@justinsiebel9705]

Did they install low flow shower heads at Secret Base?

[@ahashi6]

when the topic of positions in basketball comes up, I always think of Jalen Rose saying that positions were invented to help novices understand the game. He was a 6-7 point guard which was considered quite big to be a primary ball handler with Magic Johnson being one of the few exceptions people could point to in 90s.

[@6thwilbury2331]

Volleyball presents an unusual dynamic in that the players rotate around on the court, and the specific rotation dictates what they can (or usually can't) do. For example, a player in the back row can't block or hit in front of the 10-foot line. This is why you'll often see a tall middle blocker sub in and out so frequently - he/she will come out when rotating to the back row for a player who covers the floor better. Imagine if baseball was like that: every inning, every player moves one number up. So pitcher to catcher (1 to 2), catcher to first (2 to 3), etc, etc. This would be known as the Bert Campaneris Variant.

[@nate6045]

So while I know the comment "what are short people good for" is an obvious joke, I'm going to give you a life example anyway. I'm a 5'4" and occasionally I work for my father, a 6'1" electrician. We work pretty well together since I'm smaller so I do everything low to the ground which means less bending for him which means he conserves stamina and he does everything involving a ladder because that means we need a shorter ladder. I also can fit in places he can't. I often have to go underneath floors with wire. Because I'm small I also have smaller hands/arms which can fit inside small holes he's cut for outlets and can just straight up grab wires he's snaking through. Like seriously, I fit my entire arm through when he couldnt even get his hand in. I know your first idea for short = useful wouldnt be for a blue collar job but well, there ya go. Tall might be the standard but having at least one smaller person on the job is helpful.

[@uuh4yj43]

short people are the backbone of society, even tho y'alls backbones are so short, they hold us up 🙌🙌🙌

[@DavidBrown-gz7ji]

RIP to the raccoon

[@tljg]

Sumo is a good example too, you can have a 1,74m 92kg fighting a 2,01 175kg person, and the former winning.

[@dfp_01]

Court volleyball does have specific positions and body types that fit them, but in beach volleyball, which is most commonly two players a side, everybody playing has the exact same job, which includes serving, blocking at the net, and running/diving in the backcourt. And yet you still get all sorts of body types-one of my favorite pairs to watch this summer was Taryn Kloth and Kristen Nuss for the US national team. If memory serves, although they are roughly the same age, Kloth is 6'4" and Nuss is 5'6" and both excel at pretty much everything.

[@jmgonzales7701]

big guys and small guys always worked so well

[@patrickj260]

Off topic: there used to be a 6-6 version of women’s basketball which did have true offense and defense position. Three forwards who only played offense and couldn’t cross midcourt to help on defense. 3 guards who had to stay on their baskets side of midcourt. Some variations allowed 1 player to go both ways.

[@Scoots1994]

Jockey's and race car drivers are generally smaller people because of mass, packaging, and aerodynamics. There are more questions about motorcycle racers since body mass and leverage are a significant part of how the bike handles. That said Alvaro Bautista is 5'6" and 125lbs, so his motorcycle accelerates harder because it has less mass to move, and he has a higher top speed because he creates less aerodynamic drag. That said, there are some advantages within some sports for smaller people, but most of them are more limited and being short is not specifically optimal.

[@andorwid1880]

Thats part of the reason why i love soccer. The only real limit on your career is your performance. Yes, a centre back is often over 6 foot. But Alaba isnt. Many arent, in fact. There are many examples of players being massive and players being tiny. And to me, thats genuinely beautiful.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Well its because the ball is played in the ground, most often times the ones that require length are goal keepers the rest is you can be a midget and thrive. Football is the sport that least requires height and length, that alone makes the entry level for football easier. not to mention football isn't really the most athletically demanding sport other than agility and endurance. Alot of sports require more genetic eliteness in order to play pro.

[@andorwid1880]

@ very true. One more thing i would ad is that, at least as far as i can tell, its also one of the most fluid sports out there. You cant play it by a playbook. Or at least not reliably. The game IQ of pro players is immense.

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

The tennis iconic height photo is after a match, in order to shake hands/hug one of the players had to stand on a chair

[@nacoran]

I remember a centerfield camera shot with Lee Smith pitching to Kirby Puckett. (I think maybe an all-star game, though maybe pre-season). With Smith standing in the near ground in the photo, with his 6'5" on top of the mound, and Puckett standing 60 feet 6 inches away standing at 5'8" it was a pretty interesting image. They both were built very solidly, but that height difference, with the angle of the photo and the mound in play was really dramatic.

[@DaDualityofMan]

I always said basketball is the hardest sport to get into because it’s the only one with a real size requirement

[@russellst.martin4255]

Basketball positions in practice are less a designation on players but more so a spot on the court. Sure, you could list a 5'8 player as a Center if you wanted to, but no team is going to purposely designate them as their rim protector (except maybe Houston in the 2010s). Even in the NFL the delineation isn't as 100% concrete as argued. We've all seen RB/WRs throw passes, OLs catch passes, and WRs defend on Hail Mary plays.

[@tomthedespoiler]

As a very tall man married to a very short person, short people are very good for getting things from lower kitchen cabinets and lower bookshelves. Very handy and better for my back

[@jmgonzales7701]

We compliment each othr

[@kapowjam3462]

I was wondering how many basketballs tall every was. Good to know Will is 3 basketballs.

[@Drakshl]

Football (soccer) does this. The possitions outside of goal are reaosnably fluid and (although not the best way to use him) in principle peter crouch and messi could both play up front.

[@jmgonzales7701]

ues they arent as specialized

[@michaellee4276]

By the same explanation that basketball is all one position, football has 1 position on defense and 2 or 3 positions on offense (5 ineligible, 2 eligible on line, 5 eligible not on line) the QB role is every bit as arbitrary as a PG or C. Cornerback vs Nose Tackle is just as arbitrary, all defenders have the same job.

[@GuelermeDias]

It's interesting that you mentioned sumo, because it actually holds the distinction of being a combat sport with NO WEIGHT CLASSES. So a dude weighing 400lbs can fight someone around 240lbs in some bouts in the top division. Of course, it still favors size conceptually, but it was super fun seeing Enho get wins over dude 150lbs heavier than him, hehe.

[@almightysosa3007]

The soccer equivalent would be Dan Burn and Ryan Fraser. Both play for Newcastle, ones a 6’7” defender and the other is a 5’3” winger. Not quite as drastic but still a big difference nonetheless.

[@panjitgavaskar4261]

Temba Bavuma (5'4) and Marco Jansen (6'9) on the South African men's cricket team another classic. Bavuma is a classical Test batter, a field where height doesn't really matter much, in fact, some argue that batters with shorter heights are more advantaged (the greatest ever Test batter of the modern era, Sachin Tendulkar was 5'5). Jansen is a fast bowling all-rounder (two-way player in baseball terms). The extra height allows him to extract more bounce off the pitch. Plus, Jansen is a product of the t20 era of the game, a shortened format where power hitting is more valuable, hence, his height being an advantage to him

[@bigpoppa1234]

Billy Stanlake (6'8) played 20 odd short form internationals for Australia and at least some of those were with David Warner who is only 5'6. Tendulka is 5'4, and he played with Ishant Sharma who is 6'4. There's a similar "tall vs short" photo when they ended up batting together in 2008 against Australia in Sydney.

[@panjitgavaskar4261]

@@bigpoppa1234 Yeah, cricket does lead to a lot of difference in athlete builds

[@nickmarshall5249]

A continuation of your brief Weight Classes conversation: Ever since I saw 3x3 Basketball these past Olympics I've been ranting to everyone who will listen about the prospect of Height Classes for basketball. I want to see the 180cm and under best on best basketball! You'd still have some NBA players but the best countries and the strategies would be completely different without changing the rules of the game at all.

[@Ididntplayball]

It does. The whole NBA tanked for Wembanyama. I believe that Spud Webb had a backstory like Bruce Wayne’s to have the mental strength to bear the NBA.

[@doloepicmusic]

Grizz related content warms my heart

[@josephlim5906]

5:17 As a medium sized man, I’ve been ultra height conscious most of my adult life. In the realm of sports some of the more obvious ones are gymnastics and horse racing (jockeys). But this runs the gamut think amateur wrestling where low center of gravity is an obvious advantage and that extends to weightlifting where having proportionally shorter limbs makes less work. Race car driving also sees a higher percentage of small to average size men as the can with all its instrumentation really makes for a compact workspace.

[@Michaelonyoutub]

Shorter people don't have to bend down to get their head under shower heads. I am only 6'3" but those 3 inches have forced me to stoop at two different apartments I have had and it is so annoying that I now consider it a requirement when finding a new apartment that the shower head is high enough. If given the option, I would seriously prefer being 6'0" over 6'3", the extra 3 inches bring nothing but problems. Thinking about it again, those 3 inches also make economy seats on many planes not have enough leg room, which is another reason they are a pain..

[@NoRealRain]

Short people have shorter force arms which means they have to generate less force to lift weights. This makes a shorter build more optimal for body building.

[@uuh4yj43]

bodybuilding also has weight limitations, which means more of smaller people's mass is muscle, the rules also favor "roundness", which is harder to achieve if you are lanky. more importantly, taller people have higher caloric requirements, which means that to eat at a surplus, which is necessary to gain muscle, they need to eat a lot more(sometimes more than is physically possible), this also makes packing muscle slower if your caloric requirements are too high to be physically ingested, you enter cathabolisis sooner, spend more energy at rest which is problematic for cathabolisis too. it might even influence drug dosage required, but this is purely speculative because studying this is unethical. a 1 foot difference can mean almost 1000 more daily calories required to simply mantain weight.

[@repulse_]

Thumbnail is what I keep telling myself 🫣

[@RandomStuff-qb3ql]

Cricket has a good one which is Temba Bavuma who is 5’4 and Marco Jansen who is 6’9 and they both play for South Africa. who, at the time of currently writing this are, playing a test against Sri Lanka.

[@jmgonzales7701]

is height required in cricket

[@DoobieKeebler]

In.... I want to say 1999, I was 12 & Muggsy Bogues played for the Warriors. It could have been 98. I remember going to a Warriors game where he was taking pictures & also signing merch the team was selling of life sized posters of himself, but with inch marks to see how tall you were, compared to Muggsy. This was before the game even started. Couldn't have been nicer to kids & fans.

[@moofinly]

GRIZZ GETTING LOVE? ON SB? YAY!

[@emilynace3090]

As a tall person, short people are good at grabbing things on low shelves and using countertops (my knees and back hort 😢) and fitting in airplane seats

[@alk34eva1]

Nice. Love this channel.

[@jiujitsubassist]

I always understood that in basketball, at least from a defense standpoint, big guys block shots and little guys stole the ball.

[@uuh4yj43]

isnt really true, its easier and common for sure, but lots of centers are not good shot-blockers and lots of point guards arent good at stealing the ball. lots of teams play these roles by committee, some teams have two people guarding the basket, some do not have anyone whose role is specifically that, and everyone can do whatever action their skillset predisposes them to.

[@mackenzietoscan3602]

The 2021 Australia football league Grand Final has Max Gawn, the captain of the Melbourne Demon and the 5th tallest player of all time at 2.08 meters got truckers by Caleb Daniel of the Western Bulldogs who is 1.67 who wear a rugby helmet

[@sveltercube4070]

Jose Altuve and Randy Johnson

[@djones1234567654321]

Football is less rigid in terms of positional responsibilities than you're giving it credit for. The only hard and fast rules about positions pertain to linemen catching passes, which you point out. You can say 'well its impractical to think a defensive lineman should have the same responsibilities as a safety' which is true, but it's ultimately as impractical as thinking a center should have the same responsibilities as a shooting guard

[@uuh4yj43]

are you forgetting that football has different teams playing offense and defense? and special teams for kicking or punting the ball? its very rigid, to the point you will never see certain players on field during either offense or defense.

[@djones1234567654321]

@@uuh4yj43 Obviously not, I addressed it right there. But again, there are 0 rules limiting what defensive players can do in terms of formation, and the only restrictions in offense are lineman's pass catching eligibility. It is no less practical to put an olineman at wide receiver than it is to start a point guard at center, but there are only rules against it in football

[@simonbiensur]

In terms of pure muscle difference : Seahawks WR DK Metcaf and then Colts kicker Blankenship

[@OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

This setup kind of looks like you're having Sportsgiving.

[@psymar]

The stats for weight differential are somewhat muddied by football teams lying about their players' weight. The Bears in 1985 had a couple receivers listed at 185, which is *allegedly* only 150 less than William "The Refrigerator" Perry. But I've weighed 335, and William Perry did not weigh 335. I'd believe 385.

[@FoxNewsChannelSux]

Yeah, The Fridge was wayyyy bigger than 335. He was at the very least 380 & that's on good days. He was over 400 by the end, no doubt. They had to send him to fat camp

[@DaDualityofMan]

Kuroko and Murasakibara as adults

[@KarimElHayawan]

The rules dictation of positional specialisation in Baseball and American football looks to me like the exception not the rule. Most team sports I can think of are like Basketball. See Association Football, Handball, Rugby, the Hockeys, water polo, regular polo. Even Volleyball whose special rule is for just one position which makes it on par with Hockey's and Association Football's Goalies. You could argue that there's an even more extreme example of specialisation in racing and Formula One compared to American Football but that will just open the discussion to what is s team sport.

[@uuh4yj43]

basketball is still unique, in that it has no designated postion with ~special rules~, all other sports mentioned have at least one. but positional fluidity is pretty par for the course for most team sports. baseball and american football are the exception.

[@brutalboy1000]

They should do the classic Wolverine/ Colossus move, the fastball special.

[@msolec2000]

But what made Donovan McNabb finish his career Untitled?

[@AllenChevalier1]

Size absolutely matters. This dude averages a minute a game every other game and will never be anytbing in the league.

[@evolancer211]

If size doesn't matter, how come there are less and less players under 6FT?

[@HaitiSpaceAgency]

Because of what they are saying. The positions over time have become less rigid over time, so naturally the average height of the players has been trending upwards.

[@ravens4207]

Harder to hide on defense

[@uuh4yj43]

because height is advantageous in basketball, in every single position. but anyone can play any position no matter how different their sizes are. its a combination of height and skillset. size doesnt decide your position. we had draymond at center for the entirety of the 2010's who was the same size as almost all the guards and forwards on his team. volleyball, with the addition of the libero, has seen the same trend of bigger and bigger players, for the same reason as basketball. height is advantageous. libero takes care of small guy stuff(which basketball doesnt have really) so all other players can be as tall as needed. there just isnt a role only a small guy can play in basketball.

[@danimalman3]

Can y'all do a rewinder on the 1998 great alaska shootout final?

[@SarcasticParent]

I’m commenting on every video until I get enough support to win an argument with my wife.

[@madnessblood92ifg]

nate Robinson in his last year played with a dude 7'2..and gheorghe muresan at 7'7 had to be 300 plus had a pg under 6ft too I just remember his name this was the bullets days..I think Al horford pops was on that team too..my dad loves basketball it ended up becoming my favorite sport I been watching the NBA since I was 6 back in 1988..if you ever see or have seen cp in person on the court you would agree with Durant about players lying on their height Chris Paul look about 5'9 on that court to be real..there are so many examples of this kind of height difference this isn't unique at all

[@xellosmoon4876]

The concept that a basketball player has the same job as everyone else on the court is a pretty flimsy concept.

[@athunderfan]

Day 1 of asking sbnation to do a video on just how bad Kenny Payne was for Louisville in light of how well they have been playing under Kelsey so far. Mind you, I am using the word "well" very loosely here, just last year under Payne Louisville lost to bellarmine. Pretty low bar.

[@ericfuchs123]

Lalafells and Roegs playing basketball together.

[@ivnmrtnz]

More of these pls

[@KaleLikesWaffles]

I think about the episode that Clara did about Muggsy and Manute Bol :)

[@ScotchBonnetHand_]

The movie Twins scones to mind.

[@paulvansommeren]

9:23 missed chance for Cub Woods

[@006bobman]

Football (soccer) is also pretty position-less, except the goal keeper

[@t4th.]

rugbys good. RG Snyman is 6’9. Naoto Saita is 5’4

[@smithandshortdogs]

I think schutzhund, my sport has big differences, because one teammate is a dog.

[@smithandshortdogs]

Also equestrian...

[@benjibeavers4290]

Golf...not a sport. Its a game

[@Cthulhu3C]

Short King Yuki

[@theoldrook]

2010 wAsHinGtoN foOTbaLL tEaM

[@EyIt18]

Shoutout to Dudi Sela (5 ft 9 in) vs Ivo Karlovic (6 ft 11 in) kzbin.infoGFNhtyTC-uM

[@blackbandz3385]

Na you guys are mad funny 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mjjjuly]

with all the wokeness in the world right now, height shaming is still not taken seriously like weight shaming. imagine if he have instead said ""what are fat peopple good for?" 😑

[@Brahmabullz]

You're main issue is that your premise is mostly false.

[@psychorabbitt]

And you're on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky. But not Twitter, because allowing people you disagree with to speak is fascism, right?

[@TurboGauchiste]

You want to see real differences in size between athletes who practice the same sport, look instead at European sports like rugby or handball (real handball) and even better football (real football).

[@karl1ok]

In real football you can have someone who is 160cm (5'4" maybe?) playing next to someone who is 200cm (6'10") in the same position. There is some selection for size especially among goalkeepers and central defenders. But in midfield for example you can have tall bois next to short kings

[@oogrooq]

I don't like this. Like what's the point?

[@turbokart3776]

1:11 "5'10" soaking wet" 🤣🤣😭

[@blackbandz3385]

We’re all so happy for you lmaoo. Wait am I first 😂😂😂😂

[@XanderDDS]

NBA scout: "Do you smoke weed habitually?" Student Athalete: "Yeah." NBA scout: "well..........that's all you had to say!!!!"

[@Midwestmo]

181 viewer damn im early

[@psychorabbitt]

"The 2010 Washington football team..." The Redskins. They were still the Redskins. Would you say "The 1989 Washington Wizards?" No, because they were still the Bullets back then.