Aaron Rodgers' beef with Ndamukong Suh had cold feet, hard hits, and took a decade to play out

For a long time, when Aaron Rodgers and Ndamukong Suh got together it smelled like beef. It made sense - quarterbacks and those who harass quarterbacks often don’t get along. They were part of a long-standing divisional rivalry for five seasons, and as part of that rivalry, gave us the beefiest moment. So then, why did it take a full decade for them to have proper beef?
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Edited by Charlotte Atkinson
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[@phillipforsberg5079]

Roses are red, Violets are blue, Unsportsmanlike conduct Ndamukong Suh

[@kuttyaboy]

This is genius 😂😂

[@WilliamWengHater69]

Straight bars

[@AEMoreira81]

And it’s funny, because it’s true!

[@saryphx]

Damn, I should’ve checked to make sure this comment wasn’t made already 😂

[@chriswills936]

You win

[@t.o.6953]

I remember Suh saying Cutler was the only QB he ever respected cause he took his sacks without saying anything

[@tech-nomadic5218]

well duh, cutler had a cig in his mouth, couldn't say anything

[@newyorkisawesome99]

@@tech-nomadic5218 Smoking Jay 'I Quit' Cutler

[@jeremyponcy7311]

I respect people that don't stand up to me? Um, That's not respect.

[@eddieyakin5528]

@@jeremyponcy7311 I think he means he wouldn’t whine about it

[@jeremyponcy7311]

@@eddieyakin5528 He literally tries to stomp on people with his cleats. I don't give a f@ck what his definition of respect is.

[@prathamk525]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers and his family

[@matthewbolin9646]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers and science.

[@jasonfire3434]

Beef history: Aaron Rodgers and NFC title games

[@clsisul]

@@matthewbolin9646 why do you say that? He seems to believe wholeheartedly in science. He just didn’t want to get the vaccine because it was bad for his body. His choice not yours.

[@Rad_Thibodeaux]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers and confidence

[@TrumpSigmaGrindset]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers and the Media

[@johnnyapplesauce2998]

A glaring omission in this beef: the lions had a 23 year losing streak in green bay going into the 2014 game that he stepped on Rodgers. I had to wait until I was 22 to see a lions victory in green bay

[@markbaranyk9161]

*2015

[@johnnyapplesauce2998]

@@markbaranyk9161 The losing streak ended in 2015. The game I was discussing was in 2014.

[@menom612]

It's Okay

[@markbaranyk9161]

@@johnnyapplesauce2998 oops

[@MrMavJet]

Suh is trash period

[@noahlange5102]

It's crazy, in Green Bay we pretty much only have the GB Press Gazette, whenever SB does a Packers video it's crazy how many headlines I remember reading growing up! Small town life I guess, haha

[@accountname9872]

Did you just call greenbay a small town?

[@accountname9872]

Anything over 5k is no longer considered small town 🤣 coming from someone from a town of 45 people

[@damn_jaz9895]

@@accountname9872 nah man. i don't know what's your definition of small in America,but in my country my small city have around 40 000 inhabitants

[@accountname9872]

@@damn_jaz9895 that Is a city lmao. An actual small town is small

[@TheMW2informer]

It’s not a small town, its population is over 100,000 and has cities around it with 5-10,000 people. One of the largest cities in the state. Still the smallest market in pro us sports.

[@sunshine_tidings6983]

Some spicy early morning beef is exactly how I needed to start my day

[@hardhatlunchpal]

Suh had a beef with all QBs. The step was bad but I think the kick was worse. Also the Suhplex he used to do was the worst. He injured a lot of QBs his first couple of years.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

Not exactly; he was an animal and some of those looked worse because of the strength he had. That sack on the Bears qb (Cutler) where he was flagged was a complete absurdity and turned him into public enemy #1.

[@jordanfry5138]

Almost like he's a dirty player

[@theoneandonlybosable]

@@jordanfry5138 most elite d line men are

[@Prince_Luci]

Cant take the hits don’t put on the pads.

[@bubba200874426]

@@jordanfry5138 I hate to tell you this, but all football players break the rules. You're taught to break the rules by your coach and taught how to keep from getting in trouble. Quarterbacks represent the biggest egos and, thus, the biggest whiners. Did Suh go too far? Yes. Are quarterbacks the most protected players in the league and feel entitled because of it? Almost certainly. Unwritten rules exist solely to protect ego.

[@dcbandnerd]

Suh represents a kind of mentality you know you shouldn't like but it is such a pure, genuine throwback to the likes of Chuck Bednarik with frothing hatred for quarterbacks that you can't altogether hate either. If you like gridiron football, you have to reckon with the fact that it is a full-contact sport and players like Suh force us to see it at its most aggressive, for better and for worse.

[@robeddy3722]

As a Packers fan, I cannot fault Suh for his attitude for "doing his job". Aggressively. It's what makes the game fun to watch. What I CAN fault him for is his attempt to injure other players after the whistle. That's dirty, and there's no place for it in football or any other sport. If you're going to beat someone, beat them BEFORE the whistle blows. Otherwise, have some class and take your loss.

[@tomfurstyfield]

This didn't seem like much of a beef, you should do Senna vs Prost that's got literal life-threatening situations

[@davidlawrence6119]

Someone listen to this man!!!!

[@Gies_Goes]

Up up up you go

[@Gies_Goes]

It’s literally made for ‘beef history’, two of the greatest racing car drivers ever going head to head in the same car for multiple years. As Loadatat said it was literally a life threatening beef between the two

[@dylanleaks4320]

Facts

[@andrewarmstrong7254]

That would need multiple parts.

[@thomascourt4935]

Why did Suh name Sam Bradford as the quarterback he hated the most? The video chalks it up to Bradford being the only player drafted ahead of him but the beef goes back earlier than that. Suh went to Nebraska; Bradford? Oklahoma. They faced only one time in college, with Bradford's Sooners trouncing the Cornhuskers 62-28. Bradford threw 5 touchdown passes - including 3 in a first quarter that ended with a score of 35-0. Bradford being drafted #1 overall was just salt in an already open wound.

[@Novedrake]

Thank you for the subversive callout to the fantastic chef Rick Bayless! Great video overall! Love Beef History!

[@aidanlevangie2927]

I believe this is the first time SB has talked about the Detroit Lions… at least In some time. I want a rewinder to the Lions vs Cowboys game in 2014. Excellent game, horrible call, end for the most talented Lions team maybe ever

[@overkill666100]

So talented they couldn’t overcome one “bad” call

[@jeremygallagher6711]

@@overkill666100 as a lions fan we will take anything i just want a playoff win before I die (27) idk we will see

[@aidanlevangie2927]

@@overkill666100 🤷‍♀️ they didn’t play well at all in the second half but one call changes a whole game. Cowboys found that out the next week

[@arod_goated]

@@aidanlevangie2927 tbf that bad call on the cowboys wouldve changed nothing, the packers after that had a 5 minute drive to end the game and ended on the cowboys 30

[@smokeybeartribute]

@@overkill666100 its the Lions, they had the best WR and RB of all time. Different teams but that team had Megatron. As a life long fan the ownership really poo poo'd the fans.

[@bigchilling420]

Really surprised they didn't talk about HOW he got drafted second overall. His time with Nebraska was insane, there wasn't a play that Suh didn't get a hand in and effect each team.

[@skippythealien9627]

there's a reason why Suh came super close to becoming only the second defensive player to win the Heisman

[@joshlewis575]

He's still the most dominant college lineman I've seen. That senior year nobody could block him. Even doubled n tripled he was still killing opposing offensive lines regularly

[@P51DFreak25]

I grew up a Nebraska fan. He was remarkable to watch. I remember him getting a pick 6 and skill players hanging on him

[@gavinyeet5821]

@@skippythealien9627 A reason why Suh should have been the second defensive player to win the Heisman, he was robbed

[@sickofguysnamedtodd2293]

@@joshlewis575 he almost single handedly won the Big XII championship game that year.

[@mikew6644]

10:15 “the lesser Bayless brother” 😂😂

[@genius179]

Yeah now that’s petty 🤣🤣😆😆

[@maxmalten7749]

@@genius179 Its the truth though..

[@bretrogersweightlifting4008]

Feels so weird to think how short Suh was actually in Detroit

[@moseshanon7060]

Aaron Donald’s only 6’0”, but everybody makes him out to be 6’5”

[@AaronTats]

@@moseshanon7060 I think he meant the amount of time he spent in Detroit lol

[@Benjackson17]

@@moseshanon7060 wtf are you talking about lmaoooo

[@TheBINIBALL]

@@moseshanon7060 funny af 😂😂😂😂

[@floridamike2930]

he was taller later...

[@yankees2864]

Surprised you didn’t mention the other big stomp that Suh did to a packers player. The more famous one.

[@kylehidalgo926]

It's in the article at 2:42 but yeah weird that it wasn't emphasized

[@Rodanguirus]

The video weirdly glosses over a ton of things. Like acknowledging that Suh and Rodgers played for division rivals, and had several really nasty, highly scrutinized on-field interactions, but then also framing it like they didn't really start feuding until years later...

[@nickholtmeier]

Yeah, came to find this comment myself. Rodgers might have taken issue with Suh stomping on his OL, maybe even more than the step

[@joshlewis575]

Suhs senior year is still the most dominant college defender I've ever seen. Dude was unguardable

[@dspsblyuth]

I think you mean unblockable

[@genius179]

Yeah I agree like that Big 12 game vs. UT whew my goodness

[@davidlawrence6119]

Funny/Random Sidenote to this Video: Will mentioned the New Year's Day 2012 Lions v Packers game where Stafford and Matt Flynn combined for 1000 yards passing and 11 touchdowns. It's THE MOST OVERLOOKED AND UNDERRATED QB duel of all time. A great shootout that no one talks about SMH *psst Secret Base* find a way to make a video on that game 😁

[@Mario-pd3tm]

I was at that game. I remember being pissed that Rodgers was sitting. I thought the passing game would be boring af

[@bigploppa154]

@@Mario-pd3tm i only had two chances to see good qb duels and both of them one qb got hurt a week or two before. only time ive ever been to green bay was right after rodgers broke his collar bone so i saw brees vs hundley and this season i went to baltimore to see rodgers vs huntley instead of lamar

[@FungiRy91]

Tell that to the Seahawks and Raiders. 😂🤦‍♂️

[@nickmontalbano9573]

When I was a kid it was Saturday Morning Cartoons. Nowadays it’s Saturday Morning Beef.

[@GIBBO4182]

Beef History : Aaron Rodgers vs 2nd Super Bowl appearance

[@sarcasticsid5589]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Doommaster677]

That story is still being written 🤣🤣🤣

[@prazcuray1388]

Dope, I love your programs and shows, y’all do a great job 👏

[@slylancey]

Rodgers-Suh rivalry always reminded me of a lighter version to the Brett Farve-Warren Sapp rivalry

[@boltinabottle6307]

Favre and Sapp had a mutual respect for each other. Outside of the Chad Clifton hit, I don't see many similarities.

[@bigploppa154]

@@boltinabottle6307 i think the extent of the rivalry is there but youre right this rivalry lacks the mutual respect favre and sapp had for eachother. in fact they seemed to genuinely like each other as people

[@justinhill2378]

Warren sapp wasn't dirty. He was just good at his job. Suh would torture a puppy.

[@JMARTIN1947]

Ah, Warren Sapp - another thug who is now broke.

[@samortmann5003]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers vs Modern Medicine.

[@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498]

Aaron rodgers (the next QB of Packers) vs Suh (African-american defensive players from Tampa Bucs) has just begin.

[@isitoveryet9525]

He was right lmao

[@rs8751]

This beef always reminded me of Favre vs Sapp. Especially once Suh moved to Tampa!

[@kriscarr6986]

Amazing thank you!!! Thank you so much

[@Sir_Hobbs]

Great job guys! Maybe you guys can do Farve vs Sapp next?

[@16ktsgamma]

Aaron Rodgers biggest beef was the 49ers not drafting him. Aaron Rodgers worst beef was losing to the 49ers in the playoffs constantly.

[@TheSethOlson]

Idk if constantly is the best word as they’ve only beat him four times in the playoffs and two of those were three point games. But I see your point. They really have been his kryptonite though I would argue the only one I would blame Rodgers for is the last one as he has never had a good defense and his defense has always folded in big games. I blame the organization before I do one of the most talented QB’s of all time.

[@97NikeSb]

Yeah but if the Niners drafted Rodgers they’d have won a SB by now if not possibly more than 1.

[@16ktsgamma]

@@97NikeSb depends.

[@corbindick8943]

Love the beef videos

[@mikepasini3385]

I was waiting for more Videos!!

[@nickdarr7328]

No thanksgiving throat stomp? I remember telling my family and we're all lions fan that Detroit might not have won on Thanksgiving on national TV but at least Suh stepped on a Packers throat. They didn't like my sense of humor

[@JohnSmith-mk1rj]

The classic flute music in the background was kinda cool... Another great Beef episode. 😃

[@robertpreston6443]

As a Packers fan I love this episode the beef 🍖 was strong 💪🏼

[@SingerDinger]

Last time I was this early Rodgers only had one ring…

[@thejbo777]

He still does!

[@SingerDinger]

@@thejbo777 that’s the joke

[@thejbo777]

@@SingerDinger your mom’s the joke

[@JQUiK84]

It's crazy now Rodgers see suh in Philly next Sunday

[@brandon-yu]

Bout time Rodgers got a Beef History video. Although, I always thought his first would be with Greg Jennings or Ryan Braun.

[@Jashawn119]

Great video but can we please get the Michael Jordan (Bulls) vs Isiah Thomas (Pistons) beef history please!

[@tommythompson7941]

Please consider raising your volume level for viewers such as myself. Thanks for the upload.

[@DukeTheRebel]

Man it’s hard being a Detroit fan just seemingly being cursed since 2008, and that goes for all Detroit teams, but at least everything is starting to look promising again with all these young guys

[@roljamas]

Bradford also led an Oklahoma offense that put 62 points up on Suh and Nebraska in 2008, then was too hurt (foreshadowing) to play in the rematch in 2009.

[@sdot6004]

Need these daily

[@coldsnap5742]

I'm surprised no one parodied Dion's "Runaround Sue" to be about Ndamukong Suh. "And keep away from Ndamukong Suh!"

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

Had to use the Way back machine for that one 🤓

[@russellst.martin4255]

Missed some of the marinade by excluding the ol' Suh Evan Dietrich-Smith Thanksgiving stomping of 2011.

[@ErikSlaby]

In his years playing the Packers with the Lions, Suh was an extremely dirty player. Stomping on Dietrich-Smith, kicking a Packers offensive lineman, TJ Lang or Don Barclay I think, in the head, as well late hits on Rodgers and stepping on his injured calf. Former Packers offensive lineman have also stated that Suh would constantly be playing dirty while in a pile up. Given that Rodgers seems to have a pretty good relationship with his past and current offensive lineman, it's reasonable that their beef started because Rodgers is backing his guys up.

[@jddavidson4]

Pat McAfee crossover event I've been waiting for

[@carlossalazar3367]

Do the collapse of the James Harden Rockets

[@Notcleverenough]

Already did. 0-27

[@derekcruz742]

there’s a youtuber “dylandoesbasketball” that makes videos like collapses, they’re really good and he made one on james hardens rockets

[@carlossalazar3367]

@@derekcruz742 I’ll take a look. Thanks

[@utz2867]

Music is so good on all SB videos

[@markjackson6431]

a video on the time that two greatest football coaches (Bill B and Saban) were in the same division

[@incognitomosquito3120]

Would be good if Saban wasn't complete dogshit coaching in the big leagues

[@DawsJosh]

As a die hard college football fan, Saban is definitely the best, but he wasn't even good at the pro level. The two games require wildly different coaching techniques, and I'm not sure he ever would have found sustained success at the pro level (and on the flip I doubt B could have as much success in college)

[@TheAoalec14]

Bill B pre Brady and post Brady has been very mediocre..he needs another SB post Brady to make it undeniable he’s the greatest ever

[@markjackson6431]

@@DawsJosh give him Brees and he would’ve

[@arod_goated]

@@TheAoalec14 he got 2 rings before brady, and was before brady considered one of the best DC at the time

[@kyngjustin2694]

Another Philly W

[@Gungho73]

I remember after the stepping on some older, notable players came out to the media like Sportscenter and discussed their viewpoint as Suh being a victim of his era and that he would've been beloved or even treated as normal in theirs. It was definitely eye opening how eye opening everyones reaction was.

[@andykillsu]

Please do a Beef History of Aaron Rodgers vs the Chicago Bears. There is ALOT of stuff there

[@chatthew]

Damn, this one really got me nostalgic for my own "Golden Age" with my own friends. I wished those days would never end back then and now during the toughest time of my life I want more than anything to have that back again, but those people are gone. Shits hard man, I'm sorry you lost somebody and something that was so special to you, thanks for sharing this video

[@Antonio-tn5nh]

That’s hard to hear I’m sorry about that but there’s a lot of life left you can have another golden age and another after that. I hope you keep your chin up, god bless you have a great day ☮️ ➕❤️

[@androidtekashi402]

Stay up

[@samuelnaibaho4107]

This is unrelated, and I know you guys did a Collapse video on them, but you should do a video on the Sacramento Kings now that they officially have the longest playoff drought in the history of the NBA.

[@jacobwatson1406]

Yeah it’s heated 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@chillsportsfanatic372]

Skip Bayless and Charles Barkely

[@sarcasticsid5589]

I would love a deep dive in this subject

[@kirkcornelius1074]

Perfect beef history topic: Andre Agassi vs Boris Becker

[@otisboy6714]

Day 1 of asking Secret base to make a “Bob Knight vs Purdue” beef history

[@demaszstyo9644]

Beef History: Aaron Rodgers versus Postseason Football

[@hacksignify]

He's still got more super bowl wins that the Lions

[@alexanderkopp6647]

Rodgers has some of the best postseason stats of any QB. not sure why he would have a beef with the postseason

[@AspireGMD]

8:34 Speechless...

[@remyhanna5826]

Do a dorktown series about the bears packers rivalry

[@Piper_2098]

I swear I heard “rains of castlemere “ … awesome vid … but am I the only one hearing that

[@Yshtola.]

TURN YOUR AUDIO UP MR SECRET BASE

[@MrBcardinal35]

Suh doesn't even like his own quarterbacks, Stafford vs. Suh is probably coming soon

[@MannyMensah94]

The beef keeps going, going and going....

[@KevinSmith-vr3mg]

i kinda hope when they retire and talk it out they become like best friends that would be the true sign of two players who enjoyed there rolls.

[@thevastexpanse3530]

their* roles*

[@balyeetbhagaloe6416]

If there was anyone you did not want to have beef with back in the day it was Suh

[@danybonino6750]

Rewinder:Super Bowl XL refs bad work Collapse: L.O.B Seahawks,2010s Rangers,2000s Chargers,Bochy Padres Beef:Kobe vs Shaq

[@JWex-jy7sk]

2010’s Rangers would be a real interesting one! That I would have to say is more on Jon Daniels I mean their were signs of revival in 2015-2016, but how Daniels put together the roster in 2017-2018 was terrible. To this day I still don’t think Jeff Bannister deserved to get fired and be the fall guy for Daniels mistakes. I mean by 2018 Daniels gave him Doug Fister and a 44 year old Bartolo Colon as his #4 and #5 starters!

[@QuartzGolem]

That era's Chargers have been touched on quite a bit already on this channel.

[@pushing2throttles]

This beef was like a petite filet mignon, bloody medium rare prepared gourmet style! Don't let the size of the beef fool ya... it's still delicious beef. My compliments to the chefs... chef Rodgers and chef Suh!

[@beetlejuice4357]

Ah Suh. The only thing I will ever remember about him is him stomping on that guy.

[@Jkev24]

Lol I love that they called Skip the lesser Bayless brother. Rick Bayless is so much cooler

[@mollyanderson657]

You Should do a Beef history on Bill Romanowski.

[@maxmersmann-jones1222]

that is the violin music from waking life

[@meatwad42069]

suggestion, or at least one to look over after this weekend: antonio conte vs thomas tuchel 😂😂😂

[@demaurimitchell3167]

Here for the Aaron Rodgers immunity jokes

[@karflem5398]

Can we get a Yankees Red Sox beef history

[@AfricanH3ro]

Someone remind me what the old name of this channel used to be. Thanks.

[@CharizardMaster69]

another idea for Beef: Tony Stewart vs Jeff Gordon in NASCAR

[@Notcleverenough]

To add salt onto this, Brady got alot of the credit for the comeback against GreenBay too 😆

[@bananaman5668]

@@matthewdaley746 sore loser = bad qb?

[@bananaman5668]

@@matthewdaley746 So your judging his character based entirely off the fact he’s a sore loser. And off nothing else?

[@bananaman5668]

@@matthewdaley746 Yea probably left that part out cuz it’s just your opinion. demands accountability? Berates? Ducks the press? Only the accountability part is true. Literally every time Brady loses or sometimes wins he always says he needs to play better. He never shifts any blame that doesn’t include himself. And constantly heaps praise on his teammates and coaches. Go find me a press conference where Brady “ducks” the press. You clearly just don’t like him.

[@bananaman5668]

@@matthewdaley746 Look bro I’m not saying Brady is a damn saint. He’s probably as egotistical and petty as any other nfl qb out there. But it’s people like you who take it too far and paint him as the devil. Because that’s what he is to you. Dude has played 22+ years and gun to your head id bet you still couldn’t think of one positive or even neutral thing to say about him to save your life. The only thing people like you pay any attention to is the negative stuff. You’ll be singing his legacy is cheating, losing 3 sbs, and forgetting what down it was for the rest of your life.

[@brandonweathers6772]

We need the Kobe and shaq beef maybe a part 1 and 2

[@alexvratsanos5227]

Rewinder on Tiger’s chip at 16 in the final round of the 2005 Masters?

[@ColCam]

I am starting a petition to bring back chart party.

[@TheDaddyDuke]

#1 and #2 All-time athletes from Portland, OR.

[@matthewwilco5765]

Do Chad Henne, Braylon Edward's Michigan rewind

[@Rad_Thibodeaux]

Kyle Vandenbosh mentored him for several years

[@coruscant100]

The next beef history should be Aaron Rodgers vs. NFC Conference Championship games.

[@prathameshdarvekar2481]

At last both the guys have won their Super Bowl. Damn 🤣🤣🤣

[@SlamTheSlammer]

As a lions fan we’re usually playing third fiddle

[@zachkumar3180]

Can u do Armando Gallaraga almost perfect game deep rewind

[@chicagodude8888]

When will you guys do a Mets collapse of 2007-08?

[@chicagodude8888]

@@matthewdaley746 The preceding seasons they were knocked out the playoffs by a shitty Marlins and Nationals team, in 08 on the Shea stadium finale. I'd love to see one.

[@ObservationofLimits]

Flynnsanity I and II were the best backup games ever. Change my mind.

[@PADRII]

I'll watch later, but Suh? Figured the first beef history with Rodgers would be McCarthy.

[@93kbeats]

The flickering filter you are using in this video hurts my head.

[@jrbrennan8246]

Talking about McAfee show like Rodgers was on there as early as 2011....

[@willcapuano4702]

Got to do Chase Utley vs the Mets

[@rbkj.r1382]

Beef History: Browns vs Draft picks

[@jdm2339]

lmao @ "the lesser Bayless brother" IYKYK

[@kobekwong8479]

after the game aaron rodgers got the balls to say "see me after the game". I like that for a qb on my team

[@courtneyharper3092]

Can I get: NFL Young/Montana Ryan/Ditkia Favre/Rodgers NBA Shaq/Kobe Garnett/Allen Jones/Johnson

[@tski3458]

My feet are cold. Can't feel my soul.

[@markdorval7844]

"The lesser Bayless brother..." Hmmm...Smells beefy...

[@Whereyahidin]

5:12 funny quote 😆 🤣 😂