Why newbies FAIL using TREATS and TOYS to TRAIN DOGS

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Dog Training by Kikopup

Dog Training by Kikopup

4 жыл бұрын

This video goes over one reason why newbie owners and newbie dog trainers FAIL when attempting to get their dogs to work for toys and treats as well as to get their dogs to like something like nail clippers, guests visiting the house or other dogs. This video is all about understanding the importance of the trainer’s MOVEMENT when training, and how it can make or break your training. A trainer could write the most amazing training plan which looks amazing on paper, but the way the trainer MOVES during the training could totally make or break the training depending on the dog.
All dogs have different personalities, so some dogs are not as affected by movement as others. But it is extremely important to learn to read your dog’s body language to see if your movement affects your dog.
This video also really is a great example of how you can turn a punisher into a reinforcer and turn a reinforcer into a punisher. This is why it’s extremely important to understand that you can’t just label things as being intrinsically reinforcing or intrinsically punishing to dogs. Everything is subjective and fluid. Only the dogs brain decides what is reinforcing and what is punishing, not the trainer.
Halo the Border Collie is just 9 months old in this video and the goal with him is to condition him to think anything I do with him is reinforcing. If you see something makes your dog feel uncomfortable you can train them in training sessions to be confident instead of worried to create a resilient learner.
I show myself working with a dog who is shy and reserved with guests in this video as well as describe how I worked with my own dog’s fear of a hand reaching at him. This is in no way advice for training your own dog. If you have a dog who is acting shy, reactive or aggressive toward people you need to go and hire a professional dog trainer who doesn’t use any forms of physical or psychological intimidation to help you with setting up a training plan, because even if you try to follow what I did in the video, you might raise criteria too fast and that can cause the dog’s behavior to get worse rather than better. As well as you might not be able to read your dog’s body language that it is time to raise or lower criteria.
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- Emily Larlham (AKA Kikopup)
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@johndavison2760
@johndavison2760 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the audience in the bed! They were locked in the entire time. I appreciate your explanation and demonstration. This will help me improve my dog's obedience.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) Its fun to have a furry audience hehe
@sarahkalnajs5810
@sarahkalnajs5810 4 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO - I could tell how difficult it was for you to push your dog past comfort so hopefully that ONE time will be enough for people to understand why we don’t do that. A client recently told me it was OK to pick up her fearful small breed dog and that he wouldn’t bite but both my husband and I in the session and said we wouldn’t do it and explained why. After the person left I still had the feeling that they felt like we must’ve been afraid or something and maybe we weren’t as skilled as we say because we didn’t want to do that. Thankfully, I saw the client again and this second time the dog happily came up to me on his own because I hadn’t pushed in the first time. There’s just so much bad information out there… Thanks for being a shining beacon of good information we can refer to!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
That is very kind of you to say. And yes. It's hard when people need time to understand what we are doing...
@noneyobusiness7331
@noneyobusiness7331 4 жыл бұрын
this was a lightbulb-moment video for me. it was clear to see Halo's different reactions and translated immediately to my pup. thank you so much for all you do!
@TimeTravelingBirds
@TimeTravelingBirds 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Halo grow up through this playlist is lovely, I barely recognized him with that longer fur coming in :)
@bronzekitty26
@bronzekitty26 3 жыл бұрын
I got my first dog three weeks ago (a rescue) and I thought I was ready for at least the basics of training her because of all the books and TV I've consumed over the years but it's amazing (and weird) how I had never seen this extremely essential tip before!! This has changed my whole perspective and now I realize all the mistakes I was making. I'm so glad I found your channel.
@lisah4117
@lisah4117 4 жыл бұрын
This concept of "keepaway" also works well when you want your dog to pay attention and stay with you when off leash. When my dog is sniffing around and finding the environment much more interesting than me, I just keep walking (if it is safe to do so and there is nothing dangerous, like a road, between me and the dog) and sooner or later he'll look up, think "Hey, where's she going? It must be much more interesting over there!", and come running. If I were to follow him around and try to get his attention by talking to him and trying to distract him from whatever he's sniffing, it would make him want to be with me less.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Thats smart!
@lisah4117
@lisah4117 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Thank you :D
@Luculencia
@Luculencia 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I do this too. If she is refusing to follow me I just walk away. When I get beyond a certain distance the desire to keep me in sight wins over any other distraction.
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 4 жыл бұрын
I could talk about this subject all day long. I've really embraced play as a training modality to the point of obsession. It has become a total rabbit hole. I can learn so much about a dog from it's play style. It's now my main way to address aggressive dogs as we can work through areas of conflict in the context of play and give the dog some clarity without any actual conflict. It's like playing an instrument, you get to a stage when you're no longer thinking about what you're playing which frees you up to concentrate on HOW you're playing.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Thats so cool, have you written any on this? Could you email me more about it. dogmanticsstore@gmail.com
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Sorry Emily, I missed your reply. Weird that I should stumble on it when I'm right the middle of writing loads of stuff about it. I'm just about to launch my new website which has loads of geek stuff about play and why I love using it so much in my training. I'll drop you an email in a week or so when it's ready for launch.
@1316Salva
@1316Salva 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeslaNick2 hey, can you share it here?
@ElizabethHall0
@ElizabethHall0 4 жыл бұрын
The best KZbin support for anyone wanting to increase their knowledge. I’m learning so much and I’m so grateful for the help . My 17 week old puppy is proof positive that you absolutely can use your videos to achieve better training results .
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe! Glad you appreciate it. I try my best :) I am not the best at putting what I think about visually into words. But I try my hardest.
@Spatzenzunge
@Spatzenzunge 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup uh, have you seen other trainers' videos? 😳 You're videos are super well structured, the language is clear, demonstrations are filmed in a way that's super helpful. Just... You're doing it! Thank you!
@TheMelo1993
@TheMelo1993 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I had already seen a lot of these tips from trainers that are not exclusively positive and they look like they make all the difference... you are THE best positive trainer providing quality free content for everyone. I've been following you for years and it's always great to see your work! Thank you for everything.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Weirdly some positive trainers are so hung up on their plan and the timing and the clicking they forget they are messing everything up by WHAT THEY ARE DOING...
@jacquiehumphrey3701
@jacquiehumphrey3701 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Trying to get owners to train in small incremental steps is quite a challenge.
@dabodo932
@dabodo932 4 жыл бұрын
Always fantastic to see the kikopup notification appear. Amazing tutorial as always. Especially loved the tip with the garden hose. You always find a way of turning the negative (fear) into a positive scenario (play) absolutely brilliant. Your training is always exceedingly achievable for dogs & owner. You have highlighted & covered many common issues/concerns & extremely important areas in this video. All explained in your fantastic easy to remember & understand way. Thanks you so much. I am so pleased you always put the welfare of your dogs priority & have made this point very clear. One of the many area's that set you apart from others. People shouldn't need to see a dog suffer in order to be convinced of the effects or their entertainment. I always watch your tutorials at least twice. Once listening to yourself & the second watching/focusing the your dogs body language. I have learnt so much from you. You are absolutely fabulous. Thanks so much for your relentless dedication, enthusiasm, positive energy & time. As always absolutely love all what you do. Thank you so much.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. Thanks Dabo do :) That was really sweet of you to write all that. I do try hard to make it clear. It takes me a few days of planning to figure out how to say things. I realize with clients I would show things, and not talk about the movement and then they wouldnt be able to copy me... And it was frustrating so now I think this explains it well.
@dabodo932
@dabodo932 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup I think this is where we often see a disconnect between dogs & people. Where dogs understated us by our body language, reactions & movements then respond accordingly. People often don't see this communication with dogs until it is highlighted & pointed out verbally. Thank you so much for all your fabulous work & what you do. The world is by far a much better place with you & your channel spreading your positive energy & love. Thank you so much.
@mell.7817
@mell.7817 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. It is easy to have movements toward our dogs that are not intended. This reminds us all how sensitive our dogs see the world. Thank you
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yes so true. But all dogs are different and some are not at all sensitive to intrusive movements.
@analarson2920
@analarson2920 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup very true, sometimes I really mess up and have to undo it. All these videos have really helped with our nervous nellie.
@tedjack9184
@tedjack9184 4 жыл бұрын
Just love your longer tutorials. Your examples are very good. You have made the basic structure very clear. Personal play, it's the same thing. Touch, rub or hold very short and move away.
@alomago
@alomago 4 жыл бұрын
Emily in this video helps us understand the importance of using a good technique, based on our dog's understanding of exposure to new objects, toys and food, the way you share the information has a research work based on science and ethics, which makes it more valuable, Halo is an expert in reading body language, and you had the courage to take it almost to the limit and you recovered it immediately, I could imagine how you felt, Thanks for Sharing your Philosophy.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe thanks :) It means a lot to me :)
@melissasilvestre2442
@melissasilvestre2442 4 жыл бұрын
This is so brilliant. It was helpful to see what happens in the not to do scenario. I know Halo has a solid background and seeing him react when you move an object into his space would be amplified for most of us who are just starting off. I am so grateful for you sharing your knowledge and thank Halo for being willing to let you demonstrate these concepts.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah poor guy.
@kavitadeva
@kavitadeva 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Emily. Well I think I'm finally starting to understand why your dogs do not break or not do the so-called command you're asking of it. Because you start with the lowest criteria and you work yourself up as the dog is getting the idea what you want. This is so opposite of how I learned to train dogs. of course as you know the old-fashioned way was have your dog do something wrong so that you can correct the dog so he knows that that's not the right thing to do. But I see with your type of training the more I watch your videos there's no need for that because they don't really break the command or the tasks that you're asking them to do because you would not be asking them to do it if the criteria was too high. I hope I am making sense. Anyways after 20 years of training dogs the other way it's been very hard for me to wrap my head around exactly what you're doing. But this video helped me very much understand why the dogs respond totally differently with the different kinds of training. I think I'm so ingrained in how I've trained all the dogs the old way that I'm going to have to hire a positive reinforcement trainer so it's Hands-On for me and I can learn it Hands-On. Sometimes watching a video it's very hard because it's not hands on. Again thanks for the video and the most beautiful way you work with dogs.
@crosita1
@crosita1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! You will get it, it's just a big shift in your reactions and what you are looking for.
@melissasilvestre2442
@melissasilvestre2442 4 жыл бұрын
kavita deva can I just give you a standing ovation! You are a marvelous human. Recognizing that you can grow, learn, do things differently deserves a round of applause - even more so when you are willing to say it in public. Deep admiration for you!!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know, I did it the old fashioned way too. Im glad the video helped. Hey, just be careful hiring ANY trainer... Im afraid that sometimes.... people quickly jump into "positive training" as a career without enough education because they dont see the harm they can do by just using treats, but this video demonstrates that lots of harm can be done if they are not good at reading dogs, raising criteria or knowing how to move etc... So really be careful :)
@kavitadeva
@kavitadeva 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup thank you for expressing your concerns and letting me know about trainers. I totally understand what you're saying and it's one of the reasons why I don't just go find a trainer. I went on a couple of sites that you had recommended to find a trainer and then I whittled it down and then I spoke to a couple of the trainers. I'm too disabled now to train my next service dog. It's just way too much work and dedication and energy Etc. So I know I will need somebody's help to do this method. Anyways thank you for reaching out and letting me know how you feel.I appreciate it and like I said I'm really aware of what trainers can say they do but they have no idea really what's going on with positive reinforcement training. BTW I have a question for you Emily. Why is my small service dog he's 25 lbs he's a mixed Terrier why even though I did not train him at all using positive reinforcement training I used my own method but why is he such a confident happy calm yet energetic dog. I mean he's just such a great dog and he is so good at the service tasks I trained him to do. I just sometimes wonder how can so called bad traing still bring a really good dog to fruition.. Thank you
@kavitadeva
@kavitadeva 4 жыл бұрын
@@melissasilvestre2442 thank you so much Melissa for your Encouraging words. Be well
@PanosLa
@PanosLa 4 жыл бұрын
I can see some of my mistakes there.. I figured out most of them by myself, but in an abstract way.. thanks for offering some structure for my thoughts with this video!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Well we all make mistakes and all dogs are different. I mean there are some dogs that are oblivious to our movement, and you dont even need to worry about any of this. :) you can run right into them and bump them and they think its fun.
@lisah4117
@lisah4117 4 жыл бұрын
My dog is often shy and reactive when strange dogs come towards him. But as soon as they have passed him and are moving away from him, he's like "No, come back! I want to play with you!"
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yes thats often the case, or if they dont want to play they at least want to suddenly want to go and sniff their scent trail and pee they left behind
@lisah4117
@lisah4117 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Yes, that too. Sometimes he even starts whining when the other dog, who he found so intimidating one second ago, moves away from him. But he has gotten a lot better with his reactivity over the last year or so, thanks to your guidance, and has made some new friends. Today we managed to walk past a french bulldog (he hates those) who was on the other side of a narrow street, no more than 5 meters. My dog only barked once and apart from that was able to give his attention to me instead. I'm so proud of him!
@TheWingedflurry
@TheWingedflurry 2 жыл бұрын
how can I like a video more than once this is amazing information!
@alternativewitchyunicorn
@alternativewitchyunicorn 2 жыл бұрын
I never pushed treats in my dogs face but it did take me forever to find a high value treat she would like. She don’t like most dog treats lol then I learned her kibble works as well and when her kibble don’t interest her I use the treats. Love the doggie audience u have there lol
@kikopup
@kikopup 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Berry_N
@Berry_N 3 жыл бұрын
Have recently had non-trainer friends getting puppies. Really appreciate having your videos to link them too. Thanks!
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@MinaMaksova
@MinaMaksova 2 жыл бұрын
you are point on when you explain your training process in the last part of the video ... it makes no sense to intentionally put dog in bad situation or stress him/her or skip steps in training or not to manage situations (when possible of course), just for the "wow" footage of before and after ... it's a great video and great learning material!
@trsh6580
@trsh6580 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I learn so much from these videos, every single one is so useful! Halo really didn't like that mic, but it was really helpful to see his aversive reactions. I'm sure you've made it up to him since then. Thanks!
@stellaelise1
@stellaelise1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I have been guilty of this and I can now consider how to do it differently.
@analarson2920
@analarson2920 4 жыл бұрын
It can happen easily, sometimes even with our kids, we learn and try to do better next time.Prayers to the journey
@joonietheshiba9643
@joonietheshiba9643 3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a puppy in 2 weeks and your videos has been helping me so much !! THANK YOU!! Wonderful advice and tips!!
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
Oh congrats!!! How exciting!!!
@Dahlily
@Dahlily Жыл бұрын
Two years late but me too! So excited!!
@junostar864
@junostar864 3 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense, thanks for the video!
@alliecohen6238
@alliecohen6238 4 жыл бұрын
This video is fantastic thank you!
@Rickyagility
@Rickyagility 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Emily!
@zionne2716
@zionne2716 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos thank you so much
@manolopapas
@manolopapas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Elonadogtrainer
@Elonadogtrainer 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for speaking for the fearful dogs everywhere.
@jesss917
@jesss917 4 жыл бұрын
Very clear and well done. Thanks for the video!
@analarson2920
@analarson2920 4 жыл бұрын
Great job, Halo and all the pups look great.
@barbarabuczior-altmann3866
@barbarabuczior-altmann3866 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video. I love that you took a lot of time to explain and show different examples! It really helped me understand the concept by seeing different ways of using it.
@amyrex3575
@amyrex3575 4 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video. Loved seeing your work with Penny, as always you are wonderfully creative!
@Jackysutarrodetierra
@Jackysutarrodetierra 4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a video about building play motivation in older untrained dogs. For my rescue dog it was so difficult, I had to build the interest in toys and fetch itself with food, backing up away from her when she had the toy was not working. I'm sure there has to be a better ans faster way than what I did (it was years ago and I knew little about dog training then, so I learned many things the hard way). I'm now going to implement a plan to build her motivation to tug (she does play tug sometimes, but maybe once a week or so) with things I heard in Hannah Branigan's podcast, but I'd love to see a video of the same topic in this channel.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I do touch on that in my relationship essentials VOD. It really depends on the breed and their personality, but I often teach play by just marking and reinforcing small approximation using food. the end result is you also get a dog who will play when food is around which is a bonus. With my exs dog Trisch the podenco she was extremely nervous to move into ones space... and nervous to play. SO the first step to her playing with toys was teaching her to fetch a ball to a bucket further away from us using clicker training - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX_QZZqletp1qpY then move the bucket closer and closer to us and then remove it. BEfore the pressure of moving into our space was too much. Now shes a very playful dog and loves getting crazy over toys. She also learned to like playing with water with the hose game.
@Jackysutarrodetierra
@Jackysutarrodetierra 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup thanks for the info, I'll check that link out! Using food reinforcers in play sessions with dogs is such a controversial topic (at least for the people I've talked about it with) and I honestly don't get why...
@sporothryx1815
@sporothryx1815 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been feeling like a failure and now I get it! Thank you!!
@kvps27
@kvps27 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God!! You are a magician!
@suewinder6332
@suewinder6332 4 жыл бұрын
Great video by Kikopup! I have used many of your ideas in my dog training business! Thanks for providing these excellent videos!
@louisechristy2675
@louisechristy2675 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this really critical information! I never would have known how important movement is without seeing it here, and seeing how your dog reacts. Now I'm thinking about my own dog, it seems like this will be a game changer in our own training.
@sarawinchcombe6456
@sarawinchcombe6456 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video, so helpful but completely understand how bad you felt about the microphone! Love your positive methods and they’ve really helped me understand my BC. Thank you 😍
@DoItWithDaisy
@DoItWithDaisy 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal demonstration, as always 💕
@gabrielam2144
@gabrielam2144 4 жыл бұрын
I felt heartbroken when you expressed how hard it was for you to have done the demonstration with the microphone, thank you so much for everything you teach us and for your full commitment with your way of training. Lots of love for you and your family ♥️🤗🐾
@sivaaiken9206
@sivaaiken9206 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Siva!
@jessemiller2765
@jessemiller2765 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great video!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe thanks for commenting it means more people will see it :)
@anniejelly2775
@anniejelly2775 4 жыл бұрын
oh how i wish i had found you years ago! your videos are sooooo helpful xx
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Ken8evin
@Ken8evin 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video and the calm audience 🤣! Can you please do a tutorial on how to stop puppers from picking up suspicious objects outside/ swallowing ? And possibly a 'trade' command? Many thanks!
@AliciaMarkoe
@AliciaMarkoe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 💕🦋🌼❤️🌷
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@clairec3806
@clairec3806 2 жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful and insightful video. Thanks very much. I particularly liked the part at the end where you explained why you couldn't aim to show dogs that were 'untrained' or finding things difficult -- because *every* stage of the training has to aim at being within the dog's reach, at giving them loads and loads of tiny successes all building towards the training goals. Although it was sad to see the dog's mild unhappiness at the microphone being moved towards him, it was very instructive. And it was good to see how efficiently a confident dog can minimise his distress by simply taking himself out of the situation - withdrawing to his sofa until he is drawn back in again by the positive experiences that follow.
@Ken-rq5iy
@Ken-rq5iy 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for putting so much work into these videos
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe thanks :)
@francessadler6878
@francessadler6878 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the very best training videos I have seen (I’m very new to your channel). I know you shouldn’t have put the microphone in his face, but it did teach how the psychology of the dog works and how our behaviour is responsible for the dogs reaction. I think you probably could have shown it with just the one movement rather than many and I’m sorry that you feel so bad about what you did. Fortunately dogs are so resilient and you are an excellent trainer and owner. Don’t beat yourself up. Don’t make videos showing bad behaviours because your audience wants it. Your explanation at the end of why you don’t show that may be beneficial in each video so when viewed by a newbie they understand why the dog appears to not have the issues you’ve come to address. Your videos are invaluable and I really hope you gain popularity so there can be better owners in the world
@pelsnese234
@pelsnese234 3 жыл бұрын
this was extremely insightful!
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
Oh thanks!
@MsK9.training
@MsK9.training 3 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup been using your tips today with my guy that I always wondered why he hated taking food and acted like it was almost a punishment for him. Today I rolled the food away from him to chase it instead of stuffing it in his face and he was really eager to eat! Real eye opener right there
@MsK9.training
@MsK9.training 3 жыл бұрын
and i forgot to log over to the other account haha
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, although I literally broke out in sweat when seeing your dog react to your aversive behaviour. Now he is a well-trained and well-bonded dog and won't take any damage from that. I just thought about my dog, who is a fear dog and how much this behaviour would ruin her hard earned trust and shatter her minimal confidence.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Its so damaging to "show what not to do" with the dogs in videos. This year I am going to do more videos on fear and reactivity. And I wont be showing what not to do or what it all looked like before because just ONE experience can be so damaging its not worth it ethically to change the minds of others and mess up some dogs training.
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup You are so right. People often don't understand that split seconds of a wrong action can throw people back weeks or months in training. When I got my dog, she would fear bite other dogs on sight without hesitation. She didn't make a difference if it was the playful poodle, the rusty senior terrier or a ten week old puppy. She was so used to biting being her only way of protecting her, that I had to shut her off dog contact for not calling for disasters to happen. We now know for over two years and she is still a fearful and insecure dog. She is 17 now, is chronically ill and generally just wants to be let in peace. Up to this day, we have about three to five dogs she can interact with for a few seconds, sometimes even wagging her tail a bit when she sees them, but every interaction going further or longer than a few seconds will result in her biting. With stranger's dogs she is more prone to biting quicker than with the known and "tolerated" dogs. She is now at the point where she usually will look at me when a dog approaches and see how I manage the situation, because she generally knows that I protect her from harm or harassment through other dogs. But then there are these people with their unleashed big dogs that "just want to say hello". Who let their dogs run uncontrolled into mine, causing her to freak out and eventually bite. I so often have to grab others' dogs to stop them from reaching mine. And often people actually laugh at me if they see me struggling with their big dogs, which I try to grab at the collar to stop it from running over my dog. Even when I ask the people to get their dogs away, they most often shrug it off "My dog doesn't bite, he's friendly, he just wants to say hello, he is just curious". Even when I tell them that my dog has a fear of big dogs, they generally don't care in 90% of the cases. When we have these occasions that other dogs reach my dog, because I couldn't react quick enough and they fear her so she has to protect herself, this always leaves a huge crack in her trust in me. She will then stop looking at me to handle further dog situations, but fall back in her old behaviour of biting on sight. It takes weeks to gain her trust back to the stage we were before. It actually breaks my heart if I see my dog at this stage. She is just a senior who had a really rough life and has huge trust issues. She just wants a human she can rely on. Then the other ignorant people come and totally ignore my words, my dog's body language or any common sense. And this causes my dog to shut down emotionally and lose her trust so she thinks that her human let her down and she now has to manage her safety alone again. She just wants to be let in peace and not be harassed.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
@@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 Awe thank you so much for taking care of her. Yes. I hate it when people are so selfish and disrespectful. When I lived in Sweden people are way more respectful of other members of the public they would NEVER let their dog run over... It sucks that walks have to be so stressful for me. I was lucky that when a dog was coming for Wish, a mastiff that had broken out of a harness and was charging us... I put her up on my shoulders and kicked the dog hard as it was trying to grab her leg with its open jaws.... After that... wish seemed like she "knew" I would defend her with all I had and relaxed more.
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup I just saw your comment. Thank you so much for your kind words. I have also made the experience that it really matters *where* one walks the dog. There are areas I can drive to, where people will put their dogs on leashes (most of the times) and generally accept if I keep a distance with my dog. Sadly these places, or at least the nearest I know of, are about 45 minutes away (for one route, so 1,5 hours drive way in total). When my dog has a bad day, she can only walk for like ten to fifteen minutes, before she gets tired. If it is cold, rainy, snowy or any moist weather, she usually doesn't walk at all (like further than my property). That excludes long walks from fall to the end of spring on 80% of the days. In high summer heat, she quickly overheats and has difficulty breathing (she has lung cancer), that excludes long walks and car rides during most of the summer days. In the "dark months" every of our walks pre and past my work time (where I have time to walk her long routes) is in complete darkness, which excludes many routes to go as they aren't safe for women to walk in the darkness (because they are in the middle of nowhere and assaults happen frequently). So I'm pretty limited with her actually being able to plan long walks. I have to time when she has a good day (and is physically able to walk a while) and when the weather is okay for her. Then we make our trips to these far away areas where she can walk without harassment. In my area and on most of the walks I take her to with the car, that are closer nearby, I sadly have to deal with loads of ignorant people. I am sorry for what you had to go through with Wish. Now Mastiffs are beast, I don't know why people don't secure them more. We just had an instance here where a small dog was bitten by a giant mastiff because the owner couldn't hold him. The mastiff is just in his puberty phase and is starting to get aggressive towards other dogs. With a woman unable to hold these 70 kilos, it is just calling for a disaster.
@corinasmile
@corinasmile 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video, thank you for taking the time to make it! So grateful for the water example, we are having an issue with that and now I'm beginning to understand why.. I am wondering if you have any tips on creating a positive association for water in an apartment setting, with just a bathtub and no outdoor hose.. Would appreciate any idea for this!
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
Teach the dog to go into the bath on a thick bathroom mat, Then when hes comfortable and confident doing it on cue, add some warm water to the mat and you can also practice wiping him with a cloth with warm water on it.
@charityblackwell2331
@charityblackwell2331 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. You are very perceptive and talented. I have learned so much from your videos ( and others). I don't necessarily agree with all your perspective but I do respect it and can see that your program works. Two ideas: you can show what not to do using a stuffed dog...or an animation. If you are anything like me, however, this would stifle upload timing. However, it's very practical if you have a team to assist you and an on board editor. It's always a joy to watch your videos. 🙂
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, those are great ideas. Yes, I don't agree with everything my most adored mentors do either. Its good not to blindly follow people.
@mareamiller6957
@mareamiller6957 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your clear explanations!! I wish I had found you years ago, but I am glad I have found you now.
@leeharrison3276
@leeharrison3276 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, love all your videos. I have recommended you to all my friends that asked how I trained my two border collies. Just wondering where you got Halo from? Thanks
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Blitzen Border Collies
@sparecreative9673
@sparecreative9673 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I know you didn't like doing the aversive bit, but it really clearly demonstrates to me why my dog used to like children, and then started barking at them (plenty of adults shove hands in his face too, so not just children - I do try to stop them and ask them to let him come to them if he chooses). I've also been walking backwards from my dog on recall and things (I just did this naturally) and can see why that IS working nicely for him :-)
@sparecreative9673
@sparecreative9673 3 жыл бұрын
And that's also why he doesn't like harness that go over his head! (we've found an alternative that doesn't)
@josed948
@josed948 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about a Kong toy for a dog? Do you recommend it? Thank you so much. I love your videos.
@mariiasavenko7090
@mariiasavenko7090 4 жыл бұрын
I did all these mistakes and hopefully my dog is not too fearful, so it had not much implications on him (except one fear)... It seems obvious to people to introduce things by showing them. And de facto this is aversive! Dogs don't think the same way! And as an example of consequences, now I deal with a dog afraid of harnesses and I know that his fear is my fault. Wearing harness is a huge jump into private space of the dog and when it's done too many times (for 10 months), later or soon dog will tell ENOUGH! Even if harness is a promise of car ride to the forest, good walk and big fun, the process of wearing is so stressful, that all good moments later do not compensate it. Tonight will try to make Malusi (my border collie) to chase the harness and to play with it :) Thank you a lot for your videos, they show things so clearly. Just reading books, manuals and scientific articles is not enough. It's a great basis, but only experience makes it be productive. Your dogs are so lucky to have you!
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe. Lots of people struggle with the harness. And its hard to convince people to switch when the dog obviously hates it more than even a prong collar... You can use distraction to your advantage too. Think about when you put on clothes / shoes that are uncomfortable. If you just sat in your house doing nothing you would be very aware and hyperfocus on them, but if you went to a party you might not think about them as much. So one thing you could do is get the dog out the door then put the harness on, but of course take care that the dog is not going to run off etc.
@CreativeDiamondDogs
@CreativeDiamondDogs 4 жыл бұрын
Dog training is such a interesting thing that at times seems easy but at other times rather difficult especially to someone that has never done it before like me. Nonetheless, I still try to do it and do progress albeit slowly. I don't recall seeing anything about it in previous videos, but did you use a house line with any of your dogs?
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
yeah it can be tricky and easy hehe. I have this video on crates and tethers the good and the bad - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWppmd9br6Be5I&vl=en
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Oh and no, I dont use them in the house, accept when working on leash walking skills for when on walks with a puppy.
@beverlylacour4560
@beverlylacour4560 3 жыл бұрын
I have a puppy (3 months old) German Shepherd and Lab that was un-socialized. Nothing motivates her (treats, toys, affection). She’s also fearful. She is content staying in her create. She has finally gotten use to me touching her and doesn’t shake or run when I approach anymore. Small win but I’ll take it. What can I do to help her and also train her. I’m at a loss. Help!
@MariaDaly13
@MariaDaly13 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have always loved border collie dogs, but I have never seen such gorgeously coated border collies in my life. How do I locate such breeders?
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
halo is from Blitzen Border Collies
@MariaDaly13
@MariaDaly13 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I did see that you sent another commenter to blitzed and I went to their website but didn’t see any information about it but I think what it must be is that I don’t know how to navigate the page- sorry to have been repetitive. Btw thank you for this channel, I have learned so much so far and your style/method is so awesome!
@trekhardfilms
@trekhardfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Emily, could you do a video on dogs jumping up on furniture? Someone posted a "help me with this question" in my CO Aussie group and there were multiple responses about stepping on the dogs leash and holding him down, which appalled me. (the people responding said they were trainers). Thank you.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I have a formula for solving unwanted behavior problems - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKeknGxuZZVjrcU The key for it to work is to really think about what you DO want your dog to do and reinforce that in conjunction with using management and prevention and interrupting when the dog goes on the couch. I suggest getting a cushy dog bed that your DOG likes. Then start building it as a reinforcing place to lay. you can play games of "go to your bed' kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2PGZnihrtmBi5I and then when hes learned the cue you can interrupt him going on the couch by telling him what he should do- go to his bed.
@1theiler1
@1theiler1 4 жыл бұрын
As a guide dog puppy raiser, always look for a good way to introduce new or novel items. After brushing my teeth, I put pups toothpaste on the brush, and let her sniff and go for it a few days in a row. She gladly put in it her mouth on day 2. Now we are advancing to chin rest. Still not really brushing yet, but making nice advances. Thank you for this video.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Smart
@1316Salva
@1316Salva 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, what do you think about slightly annoying the dog with a toy to get him playing? I don't mean in any way that makes him scared, but for example the same that they might bite at a towel or collar when it goes near their face, they might do it a toy. So I'm talking about gently touching the toy to their face from different sides and stuff like that so they get their mouth on it and start playing.
@lindas.martin2806
@lindas.martin2806 4 жыл бұрын
Yea Halo!
@Yeewen88
@Yeewen88 3 жыл бұрын
Sum up first 5 minutes which are demonstrations if you want your dog to like someone or thing move it away from him/her and if you don’t want them to like it as much move it towards them. Afterwards is more detailed examples you should watch Good video
@mayacoppermayr4664
@mayacoppermayr4664 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question to this methode when counter conditioning prey drive: My dog is a grey hound mix, so very reactive toward squirrels, rabbits, deer running away. I have started to be able to get her into an under-threshhold situation when far enough away, and when she stays under threshhold, I hold a tube of liver paste to her mouth to reward her because in moments like those it is still impossible to get her to look at me, but I want to reinforce the fact that she is not reacting. She licks the paste, but technically I am putting it in her face. Would you say that this is a different situation, or should I use a different aproach to this?
@SilverFlame819
@SilverFlame819 4 жыл бұрын
Emily, this entire video is on the right speaker (insanity-inducing on earbuds). Just a heads up. :)
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I am so frustrated Im trying to use Final Cut Pro and its just causing me so many issues... The audio sounds worse to me than on imovie... and youtube wont recognize the last two videos to add the automatic captions :( I also think I need to get a new lavalier mic set, because this one keeps making a couple noises when I film. Funnily enough, an earthquake also happened when I was filming during the beginning so the camera shakes a tiny bit at one point...
@SilverFlame819
@SilverFlame819 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Oh, man. Sounds like a headache! I was trying to subtitle some videos the other night (Auto-caption is just terrible, IMHO), and tearing my hair out at how awful the YT CC system is, so I feel your pain! :D I've never turned the auto-captions on while watching your videos. Do they make any sense?! Usually they're just straight gibberish. You can turn on Community Contributions, for the viewers to help you CC your videos with actual English, you know. :)
@alxzen1127
@alxzen1127 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos on helping your dog calm back down after getting excited?
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I dont have a video specifically on that. I have this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoObZGSHZ8upY7c But I suggest working on a calm settle on a mat then you could send your dog to a mat and calmly massage him if he was doing something like pacing or getting over excited etc
@anniejelly2775
@anniejelly2775 4 жыл бұрын
i am doing your online course for loose leash and wonder if you will do any online courses for those who would like to become trainers ?x
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I don't specifically have courses for people who want to be trainers. I do have my seminars that are recorded. IAABC does have a course for becoming a trainer where you get mentored by a group of behavior consultants m.iaabc.org/
@anniejelly2775
@anniejelly2775 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup thank you for the info, so helpful xx
@cjanimatedocs93
@cjanimatedocs93 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i can dow that you do. Its just my dog doesn't want to follow the toy im trying to do what you said.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest teaching playing with toys as a trick first, for some dogs it doesnt come naturally. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX_QZZqletp1qpY
@cjanimatedocs93
@cjanimatedocs93 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup thank you for the reply. Can i update you if i done something right?
@dortenielsen8253
@dortenielsen8253 4 жыл бұрын
♥️
@crosita1
@crosita1 4 жыл бұрын
Awww poor Halo took one for the team there but he's so healthy he will be fine. It's good to realize that as a trainer who is not always perfect generally a healthy-ish dog will get over a smaller error in a resilient way. Although I did find myself getting a little upset about you breaking your values even a tiny bit on purpose for the video, especially with your own dog. I feel like if you do this again (I kind of hope you will just repeat your explanation instead, it's really just peer pressure) it might be ethically better to borrow a shelter dog or a dog with a punishment history who is going to need to learn trust for humans anyway, than break trust with Halo who, while he certainly can recover, should not need to for our benefit. I am totally guilty of doing something similar with my dog for a client in my earlier days, so I am not judging you at all. And I make plenty of mistakes on accident, especially with my anxiety dog! I guess because I tried to start all my dogs at the beach it never occurred to me to use attractant away motion with water and they all hate water. My very easily traumatized dog looked super hot one day when I was watering and I sprayed him trying to do him a favor and now I still have trouble getting him not to try to beat the door down to get inside whenever the hose is on. It's like that one incident was so strong that it eroded the counterconditioning if I don't actively cc him on a regular basis. 😞
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I almost didnt post it. Actually my brother who was over doing kerioki pointed it at halo like for him to sing and that weirded him out... so it had already happened and I planned to work on the issue, and yes, I shouldnt have "showed" it but halo had had extensive work with objects being moved toward him because in the past he was sensitive about it. So I knew it would just be an "oh its that game" response when I started working on it.
@crosita1
@crosita1 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Next I want to see him howl into the mic 😂😂😂 But that would actually be such a cute trick!
@Nesta-mw4uy
@Nesta-mw4uy 4 жыл бұрын
I love you
@ChrisM-qo1jc
@ChrisM-qo1jc 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this and my dog still doesnt want to play with her toys
@christopheclugston
@christopheclugston 3 жыл бұрын
And it's (the one frame ideology) why trick dog trainers are not protection dog trainers
@kikopup
@kikopup 3 жыл бұрын
My main background is in working with resource guarding, fear, reactivity and aggression in mainly herding breeds. Thats what I have been doing for 16 years. But I use tricks and obedience to lure people to check out positive training.
@christopheclugston
@christopheclugston 3 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup and this sort of training is outside of your ideology based training and so are sled dogs (Yukon Challenge etc). you need the full spectrum of Operant to work these dogs) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJXXimaQbt2ZmpI
@yogiyoda
@yogiyoda 10 ай бұрын
Are these working line border collies?
@kikopup
@kikopup 10 ай бұрын
yes
@karoblatakova5080
@karoblatakova5080 4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask something? It is not related to the video. How much time do you spend training one of your dogs? They're pretty tired.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
They arent tired, they are settling because its not their turn to train. I spend about 1-5 minutes a day training them each sometimes I spend a little longer but usually not. This is how I teach them to relax while the other dogs are working kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5e1o3V-lMeYjpo
@Burtonracingboard6
@Burtonracingboard6 4 жыл бұрын
Collaboration with Zak George :)
@thedoglifecoach5984
@thedoglifecoach5984 4 жыл бұрын
So this is your secret weapon ? Ahaa !
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
yes one of them :) the other secret weapon is that I dont use no reward markers, but instead modify the training plan to attempt errorless learning
@Happinezz_
@Happinezz_ 4 жыл бұрын
Karo is terribly afraid of the brush which is absolutely bizarre because he's never had any negative experiences with it, could this work with reintroducing it to him so he isn't afraid of it anymore?
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. But one thing you can do is play the game with a different object then when hes really into the game, use a different brush in a different location so he doesnt associate it with the past bad experience he had.
@djeckaimy
@djeckaimy 4 жыл бұрын
@tesseract8891
@tesseract8891 4 жыл бұрын
1 comment
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
Awe :) Thanks for that :) Very sweet of you to take the time to leave me a comment so more people see this video :)
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 4 жыл бұрын
No audio in the right channel...
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
ARG>>>> I am so frustrated Im trying to use Final Cut Pro and its just causing me so many issues... The audio sounds worse to me than on imovie... and youtube wont recognize the last two videos to add the automatic captions :( I also think I need to get a new lavalier mic set, because this one keeps making a couple noises when I film. Funnily enough, an earthquake also happened when I was filming during the beginning so the camera shakes a tiny bit at one point...
@TeslaNick2
@TeslaNick2 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup Earthquake ? Woah ! Yeah, bloody technology gets very complicated, very quickly. I don't know Macs and it's a very long time since I used Final Cut, so I'd be useless in giving advice. I use Kdenlive for video editing (I'm a Linux geek).
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup This was an earthquake? 🤪 I honestly thought the camera moved, because you moved and your floor transmitted that.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
@@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 I looked it up and there was an earthquake around that time. Still not 100 % sure buts its happened before actually
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581
@petrescuework-difficultcas6581 4 жыл бұрын
@@kikopup That is really spooky. Glad that it was a mild one and you all are okay.
@beachgirl4583
@beachgirl4583 4 жыл бұрын
Emily, will you share an email address where I can reach you?
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
dogmanticsstore@gmail.com
@dogsfromthecity
@dogsfromthecity 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I respect your own reasons to not have footage of how the dog behaves prior to training, I think you also forget how much dogs can be forgiving and can learn properly. Not being able to show the dog's bad behaviors only make the positive training wave lose credibility. The dog already has the bad behavior in the first place. A single additional day where the dog is already practicing what he has been practicing his whole life will not be so detrimental. That being said, of course we don't want to put other people and animals in danger by becoming decoys. But there are several ways to just setup a simple camera/mobile recording to get simple footage for better before and after effect. Really....use technology to your favor and document it properly.... A simple tripod and mobile pointed with a wide angle, letting it record can make already a huge difference. It is not hard.
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, every time the dog rehearses a behavior you can't undo that learning no matter if you use punishment or reinforcement. The experience is there forever, and only deteriorates with illness or sickness. Learning doesnt remove previous learning. You can only build stronger pathways... So by having the dog over threshold, Every time a behavior is rehearsed it makes it stronger. So you really do the client and dog a disservice. Like if you had ptsd, and were scared of gun fire, being scared 1 more time to get it on film is really detrimental. Also for trainers like me the question of ethics comes up. It is just not in the best interest of the individual dog to scare the shit out of them for the entertainment of humans. It goes against my training manifesto that I have pledged to, subjecting the dog to undue stress or discomfort for selfish goals. progressivereinforcementtraining.com/ Every time a behavior is repeated, a layer of myelin is added causing the signal to move faster and stronger.... There is no way to unwrap the myelin besides age and sickness... So for behavior modification to function at it's BEST for the animal, the animal should NEVER rehearse the behaviors you don't want to see. It's not in their best interest.
@dogsfromthecity
@dogsfromthecity 4 жыл бұрын
​@@kikopup Positive only training loves to talk about 'Scientific'. But proper science starts with proper documentation and trials and errors. In a scientific level, yes, it should be done. Because that is how science works. And I understand that when you say about fears such as PTSD, but the way you mention, you are classifying all fear in the same category. There are fears that are manageable, and extreme fears should be avoided, for sure and create new pathways. But the same way that you say that once it's learned, it will stay there, doesn't really remove the problem, does it? Statements such as 'NEVER', is not under our control and is not scientific. We prepare dogs as much as we can, but it doesn't matter how many pathways we teach, the bad response is still there. And will happen again, if unfortunately this dog changes home, or is put in a stressful situation out of our control, owners abandon dog, etc. Again, my main critique here is: Do proper Science. Document properly. Have more gear prepared.
@jbs_0732
@jbs_0732 4 жыл бұрын
If Kiko pup pins this comment she loves puppies like so she sees
@lelovenagaming3051
@lelovenagaming3051 4 жыл бұрын
to train with a border collieand show it that way.. sorry but you are not a real trainer... they are easy to train.. try a dog that is hard to train and not pre trained... Get a beagle and show us
@kikopup
@kikopup 4 жыл бұрын
I have lots of videos where I train other breeds and I have had the opportunity to work with tens of thousands of dogs during my career. They all learn in exactly the same way but different breeds have different tendencies and all dogs have different personalties. Border Collies can tend to be more sensitive to movement toward them so Halo was a great example. I did own a beagle for 17 years. My beagle was actually the easiest dog. And most beagles tend to be extremely friendly with humans and touch and handling. Usually the issue with most beagles is listening when there is prey around. I suggest you check out my VOD where I work with two sight hounds one who previously hunted to teach them not to hunt and ignore prey dogmantics.com/product-category/video-on-demand/ If you get an easy border collie that is wonderful but sometimes people get a border collie that has a tendency to reactivity guarding or aggression... And then they can be very difficult for their owners. Yes, Im afraid all the dogs I train in videos will look pre-trained because I break the steps up small enough that the dog is successful and knows what to do every step of the way. over the last decade Ive been invited all over the world to africa asia europe north and south america to speak at conferences and seminars about my "unreal" training, If my training isn't "real" to you then I probably dont want to be a "real trainer" whatever that is. I train without the use of physical or psychological intimidation and it makes the dogs look like they are already trained, I love that. Im sorry its a disappointment to others. But I will continue educating and planting the seed that there is another way to train, a more compassionate way.
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