Why No One Will Train Jiu Jitsu With You

[@EduardoDoctor]

Bruhh saying "welcome to the fight game" is is crazy after almost destroying your knee for life.

[@JewishBettorMMA]

Fr what a dick

[@808BJJ_Black_Belt]

Getting kicked in the face, spazzing out, and being super aggressive is annoying. I try to avoid these people

[@kevint4673]

I hatee the drilling partners that keep trying to add too much resistance when first learning the move, then they make stupid little comments about it like "gotcha" "can't do that". Like what? You'd think this is a white belt, but it's actually a purple belt 💀

[@AyrionOfficial]

Or as a white belt, get caught in a submission, and then have the purple belt tell me "You keep giving me that choke" even though I have no idea how I got in that position in the first place.

[@jwc7178]

Had a guy like that. Dude was going 110% during drilling,I let him tire himself so I could cook him during rolling

[@GrapplingAutist]

I hate drilling.

[@theonewhoknocks2809]

Probably the worst kind of training partner. Then when you explain that their defense is opening up another technique THAT WE ARE NOT going over that day and to please just uke correctly and they still keep fucking doing it

[@theonewhoknocks2809]

@@AyrionOfficialhe means that there is an incorrect movement that is giving him the choke. Not that you are knowingly giving up the choke to him. It’s a figure of speech

[@MWTT72]

wEclOMe tO ThE fIGhT GamE Ber0

[@TylerSpangler]

It was a wild comment when I first read it

[@rchen404]

​@@TylerSpanglerglad you outed this cardona prick. What an asshole. He needs to be famous in the BJJ so people can avoid him.

[@thelastchimp]

guy that did kani basami on you is a certified moron

[@enamlennahc1701]

@@TylerSpanglerI still want you to get this one back, man. It probably bothers me more than it does you 😂 That guy can’t get away with being an absolute imbecile and then defending it.

[@enamlennahc1701]

@@TylerSpanglerI still want you to get that one back. It probably bothers me more than it does you 😂 He can’t get away with being an asshole on top of being dumb!

[@x-Musashi-x]

They always agreed to flow, but when a Coach stands over you, they try to murder you to get Coach’s approval 😂

[@bassi1973]

the last one (making excuses) is a little more nuanced... there are a few people i refuse to roll with because they are not controlled in their movements. I roll with lots of people who regulsrly smash me, but i turn down rounds with people i deem dangerous. and part of doing taht is "not making eye contact".

[@shmk1]

Amen brother!! I’m the same. I’m here to learn not lose body parts.

[@MrGatya2]

I have a guy in class. Came from kempo background has a lot more techniques (as in number of techniques) than me, but has less controll over them. When I first drilled with him, he kept on tugging the submissions and leaving little time for me to tap. Then we rolled and he kept on knee and elbowing me in soft parts, bending my head back and pressuring my spine in closed guard, then gave me a black eye with his knee. He then tugged on a guillotine and I had very little time to tap. (I couldn't rotate my neck for 4 days) Needless to say I refuse to train with hi since then and last time ha wanted to train he looked really confused when I refused.

[@hedgehogbjj]

Funny enough, I stopped caring about winning and focused on control and Jiu Jitsu started making more sense!

[@danielstan3345]

Thats interesting

[@hedgehogbjj]

@danielstan3345 give it a shot, it works! My 2 favorite lessons in jiu jitsu were "if you focus on control, you'll create opportunities for submissions" and "it's easier to move yourself than someone else."

[@MoshJunkie426]

There was this blue belt that fancied himself a phenom or something because he was relatively acrobatic and fast. The guys always trying flying shit and he tried to hit me with a flying triangle, like a pure jump, legs open flying into you. Saw him get airborne and took a big shift backward and the kid just ended up power sitting right on his ass, bruising his tailbone and putting himself out for about a month. He asks me why i did that and all i could say was "did you think id just stand there and let you flying triangle me?"

[@d45h69]

not a jiu jitsu practioner but a wrestler and the same goes for us, it frustrates me when my partners are stiff because they'll injure themselves by not relaxing their body

[@fazer12779]

Update video with Mr Bath Salts needed please! :)

[@wut3358]

He's now a black belt.

[@FewsErr]

I only duck one guy at my gym and its cause I just came back after being a year off due to injury and I told him to just be careful before our roll he agreed and when I got in a bad position "turtle" he proceeds to pull me straight back almost re injure me. I came back from an ACL surgery this guy was a purple belt smh

[@accain1314]

Bathsalts Ben is part of the foundation that this channel stands on. We all miss his antics. Roll in peace BB.

[@CoachKevanKillsit]

As a former wrestler and white belt I do my best to not be “that guy” but sometimes it’s difficult. In the past year my spazzyness has slowed down but I’m finding that if I do get into a situation where idk what to do, or when what I do know what to do doesn’t work, it’s almost as if I go into fight or flight and I can’t remember shit. I’ll literally tell myself as im rolling “go slow, go slow, go slow” im trying man lol.

[@thomasseillers3905]

You forgot basic hygene... Theres always guys at the gym that stink or scratch you with their long nails

[@deaddreamnomad]

This morning in the Gi, 2-3 year blue is losing position on a white belt and puts him in a toe hold. White belt almost tried rolling out of it because he didn't even know he was in danger. He wouldve destroyed his own leg. Prof stopped the roll in time though. Some people lack so much self awareness and just wanna win it's crazy.

[@LightlessDimension]

Great video! This message should be made to every gym

[@Jitsover50]

Agreed on all points. "Ultra competitor" was my favorite! lol.

[@TheDoughGetta]

If your favorite training partner is not there…leave!! I ain’t got time for that bullshit.

[@bunklypeppz]

Personally, I think it's important to not hold on to submissions or positions in general for dear life. You don't learn anything unless you stay active, and no one likes training with someone who will just try to hold on and stop you from moving until the clock runs out, or grabs onto an improperly executed submission and spends the entire round just trying to squeeze until their arms gas out. This goes double if they are doing it in a way that agitates your joints/spine. I always apply pressure for no more than a few seconds at a time before I lighten the grip to adjust or bail on the submission; I don't want to give my training partners chronic neck problems etc.

[@MrGatya2]

There is a guy at my gym, who does stuff during rolling that simply just inflicts pain. I don't roll with them.

[@bunklypeppz]

@@MrGatya2 I get that. If you ask me, the point of grappling arts is to use leverage, positioning etc. to overcome your opponent. I really think that people who rely on pain compliance are doing themselves a disservice because that usually means they are cutting corners with their technique, and what they are practicing will be less likely to translate to a real fight because that pain will be a lot less effective when adrenaline is involved. I've also always felt that if you're gonna be going out of your way to cause pain, then you might as well just be throwing strikes, because that is the logical conclusion to that, but they are often just relying on the fact that the other person can't just elbow or knee them in the head while they are trying to do things that inflict pain.

[@MrZachgonz]

1:34 OSRS sound clip was a nice touch

[@hassanaref5295]

I think im a spaz and an ultra competitor but I'm an ultra competitor in my head I wont say it out loud but I am keeping track and my ego low key getts hurt when I get tapped by someone I think I should be on the same level as or better than that's something I need to work on

[@CoachKevanKillsit]

I feel that. I’m 1 year in and have been training regularly. I’m beating pretty much every white belt and I’m giving blues/purples a tough time and tapping some. The other day in open mat I rolled with a newer white belt than me. Fucking kid kicked my ass lol. I needed that.

[@glexx2655]

Most injuries come from body weight falling on the other. Look at jumping closed guard it can cause horrible injuries due to massive amounts of uncontrolled weight possibly being applied. Happens with throws when people post incorrectly and the other persons weight is being applied usually to a isolated shoulder or knee. We all have good and bad versions of ourselves learning to roll and have different goals for each person is important even if the goal is the same the intensity is different. I'll get dodged by the blue belts even if I let them work because they still have many holes in their game that need to be fixed and rolling brown belts usually exposes it. I competed a lot from white to purple which I think helped a lot with understanding the difference between training and competition. I think competition can be healthy for the ego. My current instructor communicates constantly what a good learning environment is in class to have a balanced ego, theres no right or wrong way to train but risk management is important since most people dont want to constantly be injured.

[@mothman7922]

I really think there are people in jiu jitsu that don't know they can was their gi. Oh and the breath it's not the hard to not smell like onions and halitosis

[@suowner]

"the guy" who goes after my injuries after i tell him what they are, then claims they got a quick tap...

[@willwailes9298]

I'm guilty of being a bad drilling partner. There's people I won't roll with because they injure me consistently. I'm not trying to get shoulder surgery, and I have a hernia. Certain people, I have told them that, and they ATTACK my injuries. Crazy dirtbag stuff. If you want more control, establish good grips, and break your opponent's grips before progressing. I give black belts a hard time just by being relentless with overhooks and underhooks in closed guard. No posture, no pass. I have a notebook with techniques I'm working on and tallies, but that's only to hold me accountable to learn new things and not to fall back to what I'm already good at. If I'm trying to improve sweeps and I triangle someone, that's a loss. Same deal as too much resistance in drilling. Letting people work is one I could probably improve. It's hard to let bad things happen when you have a bunch of solutions flooding your mind and a preprogrammed response to react a certain way. Probably means I need to slow down as well.

[@darrenstettner5381]

I sweat too much. It prevents me from training and rolling with people. There are a few guys I regularly roll with that I actually believe don’t mind. I generally try to stick with them but it causes me a lot of anxiety when I go to new gyms where people don’t know me. I tell people before we partner up that I’m incredibly sweaty. People always say “it’s okay” and “everybody sweats”. That’s nice they try to make me feel better but no, not everybody sweats the way I do. I swear that sweat actually squirts out of my pores. If someone ends up under me they are gonna be in a rain shower of perspiration. I’ll never forget the time a girl asked to roll with me and while we were rolling I distinctly saw a droplet of sweat fall from my head and land directly in her open mouth. I wanted to run away. Or, another time, at the end of class, we were doing the hug shake thing. Another student (also a girl) was coming down the line, she got to me and absentmindedly started to lean in for the shoulder bump hug and then she suddenly noticed how sopping wet I was and she physically lurched away from me. Like that was her accidental and completely unintentional reaction from surprise. I really hate it. But it’s not something I have any control over. I shower immediately before every class, wear lots of deodorant and carry a sweat towel with me and constantly dab off as much sweat as I can. I don’t seem to have any trouble finding rolling partners but it does prevent me from going to new gyms or asking people to roll with me.

[@cthulhu-jitsu7404]

My number one, the guy who treats warm up drills like it's an ADCC finals match. I can't tell you how many times someone has given me an injury because they were spazzing out like a crack head when were supposed to be doing a warm up. The close second is the guy who doesn't listen to what the rules of a positional round are supposed to be and just treats it like free sparring.

[@jbyrne4531]

6:44 i thought that dude was gonna start scratch & sniffing

[@bolieve603]

Just being really big can also be one. But usually if you're a truly good training partner (especially one who will give up positions) it's one people get over quickly

[@MatthewTheSplendid]

I fall into all of the categories, but people still line up to spar with me and talk to me after the training.

[@rodrigozombie]

I stay away from any white belt that sees shit on youtube or anybody that is incapable of flow rolling

[@Allias1121]

I hate turning down rolls, but after 11 years of training, it’s not getting any easier to recover from the injuries caused by spazzy people. Pick and choose your rolls!

[@donbroni]

We're in a bath salts Ben these days, legend

[@Irrational_Pie]

People that say they want to do a light round due to injury and then roll like it’s Worlds finals right away.

[@TheSuJ]

I’m a white belt and another white belt came in and was super spazzy, keep in mind I’m also a white belt I am significantly heavier and stronger but this guy was also pretty strong except he was super duper explosive, it was a no gi class and this guy was yanking my shirt stretching it out like he was gonna die, and if I didn’t keep up I wasn’t able to control him while this guy is rolling with me like I’m trying to kill him, I’m getting hit, not hard but still getting hit, my shirts practically off now, anyways he postures up in my guard flailing his arms and I get a sit up sweep, I’m in mount and this guy goes insane, I get around his head and he rips out of it like 4-5 times and then I get it the last time with the thought of if I don’t throw in this Ezekiel fast this won’t stop, so I do so this was a while ago so I was a very new white belt, and I got him and he tapped, a few weeks later he walks up to me and says “you injured me last time we rolled it didn’t hurt then but the next day my throat was a bit sore” immediately I felt super bad and apologized, and we were cool and while i was apologizing obviously sorry, he was like “I get it emotions are running desperate to win just be careful in the future” I’m already sorry so it didn’t set in, but a little later I asked a few people about it and someone said “you don’t get to cry about it when you go super duper hard against someone bigger than you who’s equally inexperienced and they go hard back” and it kinda changed my perspective a lil what do you think, it’s in the past now but if he were in my position at the time he would’ve done the exact same thing or worse, i feel bad but i don’t at the same time of course i don’t really roll with him anymore me and him just don’t interact out of each others interest, of course take this with a grain of salt since it’s from my perspective i tried my best to be unbiased

[@TheLacilaci]

Does sore throat count as "injury" lol ? When I started I had it for several weeks constantly from the chokes, I thought its just part of the game at the beginning. Thankfully, now I dont have a virgin neck anymore and dont get a sore throat even if someone is literally trying to shatter my trachea.

[@Anonymous2.2.2]

Don’t be that person in the gym that says they are injured and that you want to flow roll, but once you start you go 100%. That will literally make people never want to roll with you. I am speaking from experience, whatever you say on the mats should happen on the mats. don’t ruin your trust with your training partners. I just got over a gruesome knee injury because of that very scenario.

[@blackpsychedelic]

lol. I was there that day when you got hurt. I never really saw bro in training after that, now that I think about it.

[@HoboGardenerBen]

I wish it was done on the grass, I bet the mats are the primary reason staph spreads so much in the community. The microbial inputs they get are mostly from people, including pathogens. The food supply for the microbes is entirely human based, skin cells and such. It is a perfect medium for growing human skin pathogens. Grass has a diverse ecosystem so staph can't take up primacy. It's like how valkey fever is spreading in the SW because it's an extremophile that can survive the increasing dryness and heat from climate change. Staph is better at surviving on the mat and gathering resources than the other microbes, so it takes up residence and spreads between people.

[@mastershake4641]

Just clean the mats

[@HoboGardenerBen]

@@mastershake4641 The disinfectants used would just create an evolution pressure to make superbugs. Nature uses diversity and taking up the niches with neutral organisms. Mats are the worst possible way to go about, no chance of a stable microbial ecosystem to form up.

[@mastershake4641]

@@HoboGardenerBen bleach does not create super bugs

[@Stang_Gang_8]

@@HoboGardenerBen That is not how it works at all. Using scientific words doesn’t fool those of us who are clinically trained. The idea that cleaning the matts would lead to a disinfectant resistant bacteria is asinine.

[@HoboGardenerBen]

@@mastershake4641 KZbin deleted the research article I shared. It wasn't about the evolution pressure of superbugs, but it did say bleach was inefextive against them. I'll go find it again.

[@MrEzMs]

if the other guy is being stiff or not letting you drill then (if your more skilled) treat them like a dummy (literally), there was a time i was drilling and the other participants was being difficult so i went 50pct live because i didnt want to waste time and also show the rolling partner that i know what i am doing.

[@jal316]

I'm too soft. As a 1 stripe white belt I get beat up a lot obviously because i dont know what im doing but also because I don't want to get hurt or hurt anyone. I could probably do with being more aggressive honestly. That said, I'll roll with anyone of any size and skill. I can only get better from here.

[@leosarmiento2484]

Holy shit bro is part of the “fight game”

[@sirchompsalot4967]

It’s gonna take a lot more than this video to stop me from being a spaz 😂

[@kimberlydelgado5443]

Tigers in practice but kitty cats on comp day, you hate to see it but there out there.

[@TheCommonS3Nse]

Definitely did a bunch of those things along the road, lol. You learn as you go. You just have to be honest with yourself and not assume that people not rolling with you is always their fault. Take a second to consider whether you’re being a good partner. And there’s a time and place for everything. Sometimes you can take someone for a ride for the whole round, but don’t do that every time. Take some rounds to help them work on their shit. You will get better training partners, and they will want to roll with you more.

[@monkeydselyy6280]

im glad to know that im a good partner mainly bc i dont care about winning especially in the gym i want to win when it matter which means in competition so why tf would i sent a flying armbar in training wtf

[@mlguy8376]

We were practicing newaza in judo, and one was how to get a choke on with your legs from a roll - I am a 100+kg guy training with a green belt 60ish kg dude, I refused - I was tired (so technique can be bad), and if I fail the leverage, and the relative size difference I would not be safe. So just stop and relax - I am not training to be an Olympian.

[@Gabzz96]

The guys comment made sense to me until the very end

[@Casebjj]

Talking about crypto has me feeling attacked🤣

[@DouglasGomesBueno]

There's a Difference between a Fighter and Martial Artist, Normally a Fighter only care about the Techiniques and Power There's no Respect for anyone that's very sad.

[@blackanviljiujitsucompany1993]

A black belt that can’t handle a spazz isn’t much of a black belt..

[@enamlennahc1701]

Meh I’d disagree. As a black belt, you wanna be healthy. Getting kicked in the face or your shoulder yanked on doesn’t help achieve that goal, even if you “win” the roll at the end.

[@OSoSpoOOoky]

The 325 lbs blue belt that goes way too hard, and way too heavy with much, much lighter day ones. Hate that guy. Same guy that takes offense to having a bread cutter dragged down his face. Dude, you were just sitting on my head.

[@shmk1]

I’m old and small, if you’re a white belt and I don’t know you I’m not rolling with you. I don’t want to get injured. Again… 😂

[@jamesdolan9702]

Excellent video.

[@michaelswann9849]

I got one done on me by a purple belt when i was a white belt. Fucking bs lol

[@BillyTheKidsGhost]

I keep score, but it stays in my head...😄 (Edit I've just realized that I have been training Jiu-jitsu and judo for 7 years and I have never injured anyone.)

[@calobgilchrest8487]

Not gonna lie i do miss bathsalts ben😂😂😂

[@Owl-of-Minerva]

Not respecting the tap 💀

[@ninpolife7749]

I dont fall into any of these categories......Bitcoin to the moon make America great again! Damn it.

[@Josh-gp4rj]

Welcome to the fight game? I'm sure I didn't see his dopey face on ADCC/CJI/UFC/One championship, lol!

[@badxradxandy]

What's wrong with talking about crypto

[@aslkdjfzxcv9779]

same thing as when a vegan talks about being vegan 😅

[@Elsuave-7]

That's my mentor, this Craig Jones gay dude able to kill and disable a human being

[@wishanaigawood]

Learn to be a good bad guy(partner)

[@shudayjohnson3056]

Andrew wiltse clips 🔥🤪

[@MrBluemanworld]

Some basic common sense is beginning to eek a little into jiujitsu through American practitioners posting content. Up until now only a group of unthinking savages have panned the art of jiujitsu.

[@NMat2]

i avoid a couple of guys that stink and people that go 110% everytime everyday. Bro. Jiu jitsu is a hobby for me not trying to make a living out of it. Chill out.

[@charlieinabox1164]

Thumbs down for the crappy ad with the fake progression bar. That’s some scummy Mr. Beast youtuber stuff.

[@WhoDarez]

"Wanna roll a light one?" Sure.... Achievement unlocked: SIKE! Spazz is my only speed. XP10000000pts

[@robirhodes7411]

OSS

[@GreatGama777]

I'm not worried about any of these people, not worried about messing up or getting hurt. Just go out there and grapple, sometimes it sucks real bad and sometimes it's phenomenal

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

SKIN INFECTIONS

[@bencekormos9865]

Why would I cooperate during a roll? It's a fight, cooperate only during practice time

[@uuhhhjacob]

Ur trippin

[@SkyreeXScalabar]

There might be a strength difference, skill difference, age difference, known injury, energy level difference etc. In competition or if it's both agreed upon to go hard then yeah go ahead, but otherwise it's unnecessary.

[@shmk1]

You sound like someone I’d never want to roll with.. it’s a roll it isn’t a fight.

[@bencekormos9865]

@@shmk1 Maybe if the partner is below my skill level I go into defensive for a while, but I don't enjoy being strangled and ankle locked for fun

[@Proxolol]

First

[@localrudeboy4987]

Nerd

[@kevint4673]

Remember watching your Mordhau vids years ago! Crazy crossover😂

[@Proxolol]

@@kevint4673 ayyy thanks haha

[@Crazylalalalala]

The excuses guys are really disappointing. Thought I am have plenty of my own problems.

[@Crashout_Fappy]

when are we gonna talk about 0:09 !?!? hello!? HELP I BE DRIPPING ON PEOPLE MAKE IT STOP