Why Northernlion won't play new releases.

[@juangutierrez7277]

NL is the only content creator I consistently watch non-stop and exclusively for like a month and then stop for 2 months and then come back to watch him again.

[@vepply]

All depends on if he's playing something like mon bazou (😍) or dredge(🤢)

[@wonderland4301]

Nl is the netflix of streaming when it comes to leaning on analytics to axe content

[@maganashaker167]

NL programmed too hard so he’s stuck in that computational thinking man

[@Vaaaaadim]

@@maganashaker167 has he been programming as of late?

[@huberthancock2661]

I mean the NL is right

[@wonderland4301]

Anyways it seems a waste to be anti-aaa as a content creator when you can indulge in their occasional awesome production instead of the same 3 game mill. I'd get bored as hell limiting myself to a few titles

[@spanzotab]

@@wonderland4301 yeah but you're not a full time streamer

[@theBEATdude]

Holy shit I caught the "play phasmo" message when it came up and I divined from the heavens that NL was gonna blast the guy

[@powerup622]

insane take: i still want him to try out disco elysium. its like the most anti nl game i can think of, which is why i wanna see how it would play out. i wouldnt even mind if he tapped out in like an hour, id just be curious what his reactions would be

[@hullie7529]

He played Toonstruck and absolutely hated it. I guess it'd go very similarly.

[@harrylane4]

@@hullie7529 those are such extremely different games lmao

[@mc_soren]

thank you for including NL rocketing into the air in this, one of my favorite moments from him playing fall guys and I forgot it was during the same stream as this discussion

[@Silas_MN]

my intro to NL was him playing DDLC and having followed him for probably more than a year now, I still have no idea how he agreed to play that

[@DmmyIA]

I want him to play more weird visual novel

[@jamesdulak3108]

All I want is NL to play more story games he can riff on. Please sir..... the Good Life was slaughtered in its cradle....

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

oh man all those dark pictures anthology games were pretty good banter, ill probably work on an edit of the quarry eventually since i was able to find the chat data for it. the next one is coming out in late november so that'll be hype content

[@jamesdulak3108]

@@TheLibraryofLetourneau Oh there's another ones of those Until Dawn but nowhere near as good games coming so soon? That's great always good to watch NL kill the characters while insulting them!

[@xMortressx]

@@TheLibraryofLetourneau was it ever uploaded anywhere in full? I love to see NL play games with a story but it seems pretty rare for him to play them

[@litapd311]

@@xMortressx my guy NL uploaded it on his channel

[@ryannixon4138]

"aren't you big enough to stream what you want?" "That's the thing, this is what I want!" Honestly I'm glad for him. That's the dream right there.

[@eunnikins]

it's hilarious how radically I differ from his preferences but I still respect his style. I mostly watch on youtube and the ones I like most are often lower in views. that being said his unique choices and his banter keep me coming back regularly (and watching old playthroughs as well). also 3:35 that chat audit holy shit lmao

[@PyroPandaMan]

I gotta say, the stream is more easy watchable lately, but less meaningful to me. I do miss the NLSS and some of the more interesting games which can create a story. But I'm also a contributor to the analytics thing because I watch almost all the streams either live or as a vod because its so easy to put on in the background.

[@Random_Fanguy]

The NLSS had a lot of legendary bits during it's time. Solo NL is great but I personally think he's way funnier when he has some goofy dudes to banter with.

[@beeeennnnnnn]

I can't remember who said it but 'give your viewers the content they didn't know they wanted is better than giving them the stuff they did want' fits really well here

[@zzeroara9511]

why not both? why is there this stigma coming from...i don't get it

[@beeeennnnnnn]

@@zzeroara9511 honestly valid question but I haven't any experience with content creation so idk

[@TheSquareOnes]

@@zzeroara9511 Because sometimes both isn't an option, not all ideas are compatible here. And even when it is, why both? If a streamer doesn't want to play the game you want them to play then why should they do it anyway just because it's technically possible to do and might potentially still be great content? I'd prefer content creators enjoy doing what they want to do when they want to do it, especially when that still means we're getting quality content out of the deal.

[@litapd311]

i feel like NL himself has said this before

[@m-rots]

This famously came from Steve Jobs talking about the Ipod Shuffle, but NL did quote it once talking about how viewers kept asking for Isaac and Loop Hero, when in reality most of chat dips when he plays them on stream. It was around the time SAP first came out and hadn't yet kicked off.

[@TehRaegls]

i know its ultimately irrelevant to him but i think a lot of his stuff that gets low views (single player story games/new releases, primarily) is liked much more enthusiastically by those viewing. a lot of my favorite nl content ill go back to every so often is that kind of stuff.

[@DrGodzirra]

meanwhile i go into coma whenever he plays super auto pets

[@Jograu1]

Yeah I haven't been invested in SAP since like, the fifth video

[@ladylad2763]

I mean I still enjoy it lol but I could definitely see it making people brain dead

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

i guess im just the rare enjoys every game, the only reason i had a hard time with amberial dreams is cause the game's sounds and visuals genuinely gave me a headache

[@spanzotab]

SAP? I sleep. Dome keeper? More like dome sleeper. Chess? Now we're talking baby.

[@Pladdabus]

I listen to SAP episodes but rarely watch. Crossword on the other hand is where it's at!

[@Volodymyr.Yermakov]

I like my egg playing variety of roguelikes and roguelikes only. But not overplaying them to death. Probably him playing Hades was my favorite time when I watched him. I also very much loved him playing 20 minutes till dawn. I was very hopeful we would get about several or even a dozen hours of Brotato (but no more), but... Anyway, I don't really watch him much because he is playing same shit over and over. Especially because most of those games are relatively mainstream. Always waiting for a phase when that changes, but too bad it's inevitably very short phase. He is still entertaining for me with his jokes and banter (but not pop-culture discussions), but only with that it's not enough to spend so many hours to watch his streams. Hoping to find a streamer that would play the new game Potionomics. I've seen soda played it and he is my go-to for most games (if they don't require too much skill), but I am not sure he would continue. It's a time of game NL would probably play (he is also my alternative pick for a streamer), but who knows...

[@Shade1703]

so true NL, lets go back to playing fall guys for the next 20 streams

[@CS0723]

Insane +2 for honest appraisal of Phasmaphobia

[@PinHeadSupliciumwtf]

Okay now that he explained it to me I REALLY want him to play Stray.

[@Imbalanxd]

Isn't he a big enough streamer to stream what I want him to stream?

[@Bendrix27]

He says all this yet he has played about 200 games that all make for FAR more interesting content than Super Auto Pets and yet that is what he decides to play almost endlessly.

[@Mattstak]

Insane series of +2s in this video

[@SilverionX]

I think there's one part of this that some people might not get. Full time streaming is fucking exhausting. The balance between actually making money and not burning yourself out because you're not having fun, while simultaneously handling all the tasks of not only running your own business, but also making sure your stream isn't ass is a lot more taxing mentally than you'd imagine. Add the pressure and negativity of random people on the internet, well meaning and trolls and you get a career not many people can maintain long term. There's a reason few people manage to hang on as long as NL has because it can be really rough. That and the fact that in the western world (USA excluded), most people can get a job where they don't have to deal with all that bs and also pays better for less work.

[@roundabout468]

I want to see him play GTA6 when it comes out though. The GTA5 playthrough is a pogfest.

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

i'm super hyped for the next dark picture anthology game, i think he promised to play it. the quarry was top tier banter

[@kholdseid6614]

Inception is a fantastic movie

[@alexxans1154]

The shittier the game the better the content tends to be. That is why most game suggestions don't work for nl. I laughed my ass off when he was playing games like the quarry and bunker life yet i watched one video of into the breach and fell asleep. People tend to forget that they come to nl to be entertained, not watch him play games

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

bunker life my beloved...

[@suakeli]

8:23 same energy as Liz Truss saying "I'm a fighter not a quitter"

[@Blackobluna]

Yoooo mega variety stream lets go!

[@litapd311]

tbh at this point i feel like every twitch chatter or commenter should have "shut up and pog" screamed at them before they write comments. at this point people should know that NL is gonna play what he plays and not whatever chat begs.

[@cooraa]

Ugh its the same thing over and over again. Remember how everyone was going mad crazy when he decided to end the daily isaac videos? And it was so apparent that not a lot of people would miss it (it had the lowest click rate back then). Now it's the same thing again. I personally agree that I'd be the type of viewer to check out the new game he's playing and would leave 10 mins in. If he's not 100% into it or if the game isn't a great banter game, I'm out. That isn't the NL content I subbed for. The man knows what's best for him and his channel. If he doesn't want to, let the man be. Annoying someone to do something rarely works. If you keep nagging them into doing it, it'll turn out shit anyway.

[@Moondog911]

His inception take is so real

[@BurnedSpace]

I loved his gungeon videos

[@spanzotab]

his take on video essays is omega based

[@Random_Fanguy]

Although I do wish he'd play more popular and mainstream stuff to see how he likes it, he mostly shines when he has a simple game he can grove and banter over. Also, over the years I just kinda accepted he's not a story or exploration gamer. He just kinda... doesn't pay attention during those types of games. Like at all.

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

well the dark pictures anthology games are pretty good but those are literally just a movie in video game format which is very banter conducive

[@Jindo1]

I want to know about this video essay that turned people against Inception???

[@legion999]

Yyyeah, it sure is fun to be in twitch chat when it has "high engagement" and moves at 20 messages a second, ensuring you catch ony glimpses of other convos, and no one will ever see your messages, or if they do seethem and respond, you almost certainly won't catch their response. Man I miss being the primary NL audience on YT when he still did "NL Tries" videos. Now I almost watch more highlights/clips than actual NL videos

[@xoxMatch]

I think there is a mix of many simple reasons for NL to never look back at those days. The basic, surface level was described by the man himself. As for the other layers - clearly the YT content ratracing doesn't sound very compelling for him (while also gambling his daily family life routine on some algorythms and whatnot). Plus, as you can see, our lovely Egg enjoys being +2's and asking "wha' happin" after loosing in the game of jumping beans while chat scrolling up with a speed of light. Perhaps, this IS his element. Although, it might be me, but long interaction with chat made NL a little snarkier than usual.

[@PuchuKt]

same man, i still catch the collabs in full, like when he plays with sips and malf

[@legion999]

@@xoxMatch Yeah he does enjoy the continuous instant +2 praise injections, although YT comments are still 95% praise too. I guess I can't fault him for it, I'm just a bit despondent about the good ol' days. And yeah he has gotten snarkier although I feel like a lot of the times it's somewhat undeserved and he mostly does it for +2s. His streamer position is getting to him sometimes, man.

[@Linkfan001]

​@@legion999 I thought I was the only one who noticed his streamer persona and how jarring it is. Before the baby, he was pretty generally polite and his silly bits felt like the everyman's funny life. Once he went all in on twitch, his bits have been more like rants, his takes have had a far more ignorant air about them, and he snipes at his critics all the damn time. What kind of insanity is it to comb through their messages and be like "going to use your past words against you as a gotcha to humiliate you in front of all these people?"

[@JobroskiSwaqqman]

Yes, but cloud cam was the best stream

[@featherzynn]

I really miss the miss NL era

[@frostatine]

NL out here saving lives by shitting on video essayists

[@bben4576]

Has nl ever considered that he's always the last to stream something? Everyone has done it.

[@timekiller882]

I miss the old nl

[@attention_shopping]

ya but don't you WANT to play stray? but what do i know, NL prob just enjoys pleasing edit: 2:00 he answers this xD

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

this man's banter covers all angles from every single parallel universe

[@OwenOrsini]

the fighting game arc would go crazy until he hits silver in whatever game and quits a week later

[@0zzmium]

Tbh just him getting into competitive games and squabbling around in the low tier metas for 3 weeks seems like it would be fun to see

[@Rhapsdos]

That's basically the rumbleverse arc.

[@why2k87]

The sajam collab? Bro don't make me wish for something that can't happen 😒

[@nattteo]

I mean, honestly I don't blame him, I feel the same way about most competitive games. I think the problem is that I enjoy him raging at the game, but he definitely doesn't.

[@0zzmium]

@@Rhapsdos it was a great arc, like get out before he gets too sick of it and just stay as long as he has some fun with it

[@splish8869]

calling stray an innovative indie game that makes you feel like a cat is a nothing statement. Sure, the cat is very well animated but this is a hold up on the analog stick and press the jump button to jump when the game tells you to with occasional puzzles game heavily financed by a huge publisher. But it has a very well animated cat

[@OobleeDooblee]

Now that Isaac is basically done, NL is the only streamer I watch despite actively disliking basically anything he plays. I hate SAP. It’s boring to watch and the banter usually isn’t there. I’m not big on anything he plays with his friends so I stopped watching Fall Guys. I’m kinda liking Dark and Darker? But now he’s starting to play with Dan and I just don’t find it as fun to watch that way. Hopefully sometime down the line he’ll find an indie game he does like that’s fun to watch again.

[@KatitaKate]

wait, he *wants* to play isaac?

[@MrMoorfrosch]

Not a single viewer of fall guys actually watches because of the game. Might as well do any other mindless BS

[@thewonderfulsmiles2281]

fallout new vegas🥺

[@GoodSmile3]

A combination of solo NL and bad content makes no sense

[@legion999]

What do you mean, solo?

[@GoodSmile3]

@@legion999 like without some simps and milfs he is playing with sometimes. They lowkey eat the banter quality and I can scientifically prove that.

[@tezpokemonmaster]

@@legion999 no NLSS

[@PuchuKt]

@@legion999 in case you're new, he used to do solo content on yt vids and his stream was mostly NLSS, a 3 hour long stream where he would play with a couple of friends

[@greydragon8973]

So when is he gonna play Hogwarts Legacy?

[@ZlyLudekPL]

This video inspired many -2s, many +2s, but above else it inspired a "based", because phasmophobia truly has to be the worst and most boring fucking popular game in recent years.

[@TheLibraryofLetourneau]

it's fun for a little bit at the start with friends when you don't know what's going on and you unlock a bunch of the gadgets to mess around with but it gets old super quick for sure

[@FieldMarshall3]

Personally i dont watch NL for the content, i watch him because he is really entertaining to listen to. Balatro and Auto Pets is probably the most boring content i can think of but i'll still watch NL because he is a funny guy. If other people are like me then that would explain his lower view count when playing new content games, because if he plays actual games he has to focus on then he's not talking about random funny stuff anymore.

[@vepply]

Thumbnail is loaded propaganda

[@DP-jt6xx]

He's right tho

[@snoowwe]

I like watching NL because he doesn't treat chat like shit, like Soda for example. I'm not going to watch a streamer that keeps insulting their whole chat, NL has a different mindset and I like it Edit: NL's content has been better than ever. His "new" twitch schedule is good, and is only boring when he isn't doing solo content. Sorry oldfriends, banter > NLSS.

[@MasterChief3624]

He plays new games a lot. They're just indie games.

[@PuchuKt]

Off his yt uploads, the only new game is an sponsored segment, and then the newest is brotato's first episode 2 weeks ago

[@MasterChief3624]

@@PuchuKt That's still new games, though. I guess I'm being pedantic. Dome Keeper, Vampire Survivors, Rumbleverse, Trombone Champ... I don't recall those being sponsored, but maybe they were. He was seemingly on the ground floor for all of them. He does make a habit of playing games that have been around for a while, and especially back in the day he loved playing obscure games from MANY years prior (Family Feud, Kirby's Dream Course, etc.). In that sense, he plays much more modern stuff. But he's never shyed away from playing newer games. He started all the Binding of Isaacs, Super Meat Boy, Hitman, Forza Horizon 5, Dark Souls, Dark Souls II, Dark Souls III... like the list goes on forever. He plays new games and has a history of doing so. Even stuff like Fall Guys he was playing when they came out.

[@CoolHandLuke196]

Ok but inception is mid tho