Why Parents Take Their Kids to Trans Drag Shows - Helen Joyce

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[@triggerpod]

Do you agree? 👇

[@HAKIMOSANARQUISTAS]

BECAUSE THEY ARE ABUSERS

[@Slumbert]

They're brainwashed etc

[@apointonacurve]

You may want to check your livestream moderators... looks like they are blocking people. Don't block unless you want to be blocked. Free Speech is necessary. If you don't agree, then ignore it. If you want to block people, then go away and never be heard from again.

[@emilybitzel7242]

How about the horror show: It's ok to be liberal or conservative no matter how you were raised! and if you're born into a liberal family but identify as a conservative that's ok and not only is it ok to think like a conservative, you are encouraged to vote the way you identify. Imagine the outrage? Hahahaaaa

[@srodgars1560]

How would a child get the idea, unless you're putting it in their head. Seriously, how is a "hole" a gender? Misinformation & false promise of an impossible scientific procedure!!

[@IMDunn-oy9cd]

When you sacrifice your child in exchange for social credit.

[@cenzo362]

And the god is t humanism

[@leviticuscornwall9631]

Way more common than you’d think

[@juddzimmermann328]

It's worse than taking kids to drag shows...they are saying their 4 year old is gay of transgender.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

A lot of them just think it's fun to trigger conservatives

[@CritterHeadquarters]

Bingo!!

[@kimj5037]

"You're not meant to understand it. You're just meant to accept it." Well said, Helen. And that pretty much sums up a cult.

[@Jeremy-ho3vi]

Not the only religion to practice Child Sacrifice.

[@censorbleep3018]

When I was a kid and I saw a transvestite, I could easily tell it was a man in a woman's dress and my childhood interpretation was this person was in disguise, this adult is pretending to be something he is not, and it has something to do with sex, and it made me feel threatened and uncomfortable. My instincts haven't changed.

[@Cowboycomando54]

Honestly I never got why people feeling uncomfortable is now shunned. Like if you feel uncomfortable seeing a man dressed as a woman you are equated to that of a Nazi, even if you wish no ill will on them.

[@givmi_more_w9251]

@@Cowboycomando54 People who break boundaries and don't conform jsut for the sake of non-conforming have always gotten on everybodies nerves, or worse. This is no different. And especially men being like that can have a threatening undertone when it comes to skinwalking women. For comparison, an obvious fruity gay man dressing effeminately in 'girly' colours doesn't have that, he's at worst an eyesore that signals 'I'm so boring I have to make my loud clothes and the fact I like blokes my whole personality'. At best he's ... well, a fruity, gay man.

[@ribbonsofnight]

@@Cowboycomando54 it's not very complicated. If you can be made to feel guilty about discomfort then you are more likely to allow things that make you uncomfortable. Soon you could be a girl crying about a man invading your changing room on social media while still saying the ideology that made them allow men to use the women's changing rooms is not a problem and the company is doing something good.

[@arknabul2760]

@@Cowboycomando54 Shame and guilt are the tools for the revolution. Call everything bourgeois to control the means off economic production, call everything ist or fhobic to control the means off language, knowledge and cultural production. The West is on a revolution.

[@nomoremaybes]

I completely agree.

[@user-oo5pl6io9j]

This is ALWAYS child abuse.

[@orange222...]

just like taking a child to any adult venue.

[@ajs41]

So is letting children use social media.

[@00Daddy]

She is feminists are you serious people like these are the reason this BS exist she and there types are reason family disintegration Does men have no honor or any brain to let them in now

[@patman142]

great insight by Helen, it's pure indoctrination and the parents don't even realise they are pawns in this game

[@airybrook]

they know - I never call evil ignorance

[@patman142]

@airybrook yes, you are probably right in many case, let's all get on the trans train in case we are called bigots

[@srodgars1560]

Exactly, how would a child suddenly get the idea they can become another gender if you're not putting these things in their heads. Seriously, how is a "hole" gender ?

[@RhetoricalMuse]

In all fairness, we indoctrinate kids all the time. The difference is whether the indoctrination is in the child's and societies best interest?

[@christopher_ecclestone]

​@@RhetoricalMuseReally? If I'm teaching a kid to do something, I encourage them to ask questions and to understand why they're being taught to do it. If you're indoctrinating your kids, you're not helping them because they won't know why they do what you've taught them.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Kids would be happier if their parents stayed home with them and read them a book instead of dragging them to a drag show. Quality one on one time.

[@proudatheist2042]

They would be more well adjusted, too. If a parent thinks it's honorable to take their child to any sexually explicit live act, there have to be serious things wrong going on behind closed doors.

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

Go fishing, to a museum, a nice movie, stay home and cook something extravagant. There are so many wonderful things in life, why bother with this nonsense..?

[@marcustulliuscicero2676]

Yep. Even leaving out the drag show part, which is beyond insane, I never understood parents bringing their kids to a library to have a librarian read them something. If you want your kids to socialize with other kids, bring them to a playground, playdate, etc. If you want to read them something, do it yourself - you'll pick a better book and do a better job reading it. People are such tools...

[@Aarenby]

You likely absue your kids

[@claudiaclark6162]

I'm not taking Myself to a drag show let alone My child

[@bvyup2112]

I cant even comprehend why people do this. Whats fun about a clown horribly dancing? It's just gross to look at.

[@filmjazz]

In defense of old school drag shows for an adult audience: I saw a few in NYC, and when it was just a fun part of gay culture without any gender identity politics being pushed it's just another silly form of entertainment and harmless. Pushing this on children is of course a whole different thing.

[@claudiaclark6162]

@@filmjazz I have seen some pretty slutty women and I don't want them exposed to them either. If I want them to go to a clown show I will take them to the Circus The only thing I send them to school for is to learn how to read write and do math

[@bvyup2112]

@@filmjazz Yah I don't care at all that adults do it. Definitely not for me, I don't get the appeal. Seems akward and weird, but again, its not for me. Having it at libraries changes that though

[@johirsty7392]

Me neither! Load of crap.

[@iainanderson6775]

Absolutely right about the theory attracting the wrong people: predators will always go where the prey is.

[@rogerramjet7729]

Exactly - the reason they went to establishment churches is access, trust and shame. The last was key to preventing reporting their activities. Predators will go where they can get away with it

[@stracepipe]

​@@rogerramjet7729 Exactly, paedophiles inveigle their way into positions of trust.

[@siennajames462]

In plain sight.

[@randylahey8207]

​@@rogerramjet7729bingo. They move where their kind is allowed. The modern day alphabet community provides perfect cover, and in some cases legal protection.

[@istvanczap3004]

even the well intentioned adherents are still dangerous cultists...

[@dukecity7688]

Helen nailed this. I'm Cool mom. See me. I take my kids to Drag Story Hour. Dig me.

[@FRAME5RS]

I’d be embarrassed as all get out to admit to doing this. Sort of like throwing your kid in the back of a pickup truck and barreling down the highway.

[@hmoto7108]

Stella Creasy did so & went directly to Twitter to virtue signal it.

[@00Daddy]

She is feminists are you serious people like these are the reason this BS exist she and there types are reason family disintegration Does men have no honor or any brain to let them in now

[@00Daddy]

She is feminists are you serious people like these are the reason this BS exist she and there types are reason family disintegration Does men have no honor or any brain to let them in now

[@stevenwortrich6014]

More like a cult

[@here_we_go_again2571]

People with beliefs form cults.

[@ariesrosee]

And the difference between a religion and a cult is what?

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@ariesrosee Numbers and Societal acceptance.

[@caroldonaldson5936]

​@@ariesrosee Clearly not simplistic enough for you to get your head around - naff question!🙄

[@kronk358]

@@ariesrosee Number of members.

[@ChuddmasterZero]

I would imagine Helen doesn’t quite realise it, but she’s fast becoming a favourite public intellectual to many of us. She is just terrific.

[@ribbonsofnight]

Helen's great. The intellectual of the movement for sure J.K. Rowling has risked the adulation of hundreds of millions of people for the rights of women. Can't be praised enough. Kellie J Kean has put her physical safety on the line and really shown the complete failure of public officials and media in NZ and Australia running right through. I don't think any of them care how much credit they get as long as society gets back on track.

[@nevillegrimshaw7758]

Couldn’t agree more!👍

[@vonickles5033]

She's brilliant yes

[@misskathy4931]

Yet she couldn't understand the concept of the trinity🙄. It's very simple

[@adamprice3466]

She's communist, hard pass. She's not my buddy because she agrees on one issue.

[@vel230]

Its the parent's way of getting attention....narcissists feeding narcissists....

[@thelordakira]

or Munchausen by Proxy

[@aidananstey9848]

​@@thelordakira Transhausen by proxy😒

[@orange222...]

right they want to be the cool kids and belong to a group where they can be "rightously" indignant.

[@00Daddy]

She is feminists are you serious people like these are the reason this BS exist she and there types are reason family disintegration Does men have no honor or any brain to let them in now

[@Gingerblaze]

Not necessarily. Some were expecting the equivalent of a panto dame or something like Mrs doubtfire. Not sex clowns or burlesque performers.

[@mikegalvin9801]

Actually a few years ago Trans people would have been annoyed to be compared to drag queens.

[@scooter-wy3qs]

Yeah, there used to be a defined line between drag queen and transwoman. Nowadays you have drag queens transitioning but continuing to do drag.

[@JumpCutThis]

Years? A few hours ago. That we’ve suddenly seen a complete conflation between the two is utterly absurd. I’m waiting for the *ACTUAL* draggys to finally stand up and say *’GET OFF OUR STAGE!!’* knowing a few of them personally, I know they’re being bullied into silence.

[@scooter-wy3qs]

@@JumpCutThis What about drag queens that transition but continue to do drag, like Peppermint? They've destroyed the line between drag queen and TW

[@JumpCutThis]

@@scooter-wy3qs that’s not drag tho, that’s just doing strip tease/burlesque

[@misskathy4931]

When I was a kid, they were called "Cross dressers". Lol

[@memoryhero]

Sal Grover thinks Helen Joyce is basically the new Hitchens. I'm not sure. In any case, Helen is an absolute titan. Her superpower is stating everything in language so plain it can no longer be misconstrued. I mean... they will still try. But Helen is about five times that clever. We are lucky she is alive and on this topic like white on rice.

[@johnnunn8688]

When someone of the stature of Douglas Murray says that HJ is ace, you know she must be.

[@00Daddy]

She is feminists are you serious people like these are the reason this BS exist she and there types are reason family disintegration Does men have no honor or any brain to let them in now

[@NorthwoodsWolf]

2:12 She says “I don’t think pedophilia is a big part of any motivation on trans, specifically.” Sorry, I’ve never heard of Trans Story Hour being done at an old folks home…

[@janicep1508]

I saw a clip of some drag queens at the nursing home. There were about eight women in a circle and the drags were getting them to dance. I can totally see how there audience got there. Nursing homes are extremely boring, they accept any entertainment. Secondly, they all sit around and watch soaps all day and the soaps are seeping with this ideology. So, they can now say "how bad can it be, even granny adores it".

[@Dram1984]

🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️

[@ribbonsofnight]

The libraries aren't motivated by it, the mums aren't motivated by it, the children certainly aren't so the question is are all the organisers or all the performers. Probably not all, but a greater proportion than any other children's activity

[@anne_price]

What is trans story hour?

[@user-ks3ol3lw3b]

She's saying that the point is to get into kids' heads and get them to accept men in women's outfits as 'fun' and normal. She mentioned Jesuits. There's a quote that the Jesuits supposedly said "Give us the boy, and we'll own the man.'

[@patriciarocco2610]

As someone who has studied the theology of the Trinity, it has a biblical foundation -- both Hebrew and Christian texts. It is dogma based on millennia of human experience of God. No one is compelled to believe Christian dogma or any dogma. However, people are being compelled to believe trans ideology or lose their job, or risk being socially ostracised. This is a fundamentalist religion being touted as the promotion of human rights. To disagree with the religion is to be characterised as bigoted, hateful and violent. English theatre has a tradition of men playing women's parts in the context of theatre, because women were not allowed on stage. Dame Edna was not trans. She was a character played by Barry Humphries.

[@charko4191]

I would say that trans ideology is more like a cult than a religion especially since I am catholic and as you said Trinity has a biblical foundation and religion at least christianity to my knowledge is not a blind faith

[@dr.matthewhertert310]

yes, and it seems to me to be obvious that it is a simplification of the ten aspects of god (and man) laid out in the qabbalistic tree of life.

[@jennybardoville5455]

Historically, some peoples were compelled to believe, especially when the religion was trying to take root, and threatened with punishment if they didn't. Similar hallmarks

[@UNCHART3DGAMING]

The Cass Review (UK) and the WPATH Files (USA) should be a damning indictments to shut this movement down post haste - no experts, no consent just the Psychopaths and Narcissists taking full advantage of what we have abdicated

[@cenzo362]

It's alot bigger & the reports won't stop it. T humanism entrance

[@peterjermey7235]

The Cass review was about trans people. Typically gay men do drag, although anyone can.

[@kozublue]

WTF does the Cass Review have to do with seeing a drag queen show? Seriously, I don't think 'conflating' even covers this. Do you have any idea what you're talking about or do you just regurgitate talking points you've read in order to sound intelligent?

[@jomamackdaddy]

Same reason a proud father takes his son to a baseball game. He hopes his son will love the game as much as he does. The parents of the children at drag shows hope their kids will love their politics as much as they do.

[@ribbonsofnight]

Not a bad analogy, but with terrifying results. The kids will either learn to despise their parents or despise the truth (and I'm not talking about the truth that baseball is boring)

[@debbylou5729]

You spelled ‘perversion’ wrong

[@PaulWolfe1]

Not parents. Mothers. More specifically, white mothers.

[@joemadden4160]

Exactly.

[@RhetoricalMuse]

Even more specifically, white, liberal, middle class mothers and their effeminate husbands

[@yodoleheehoo90]

Yes! I noticed that too!

[@Gitn2it]

I've seen some fathers there, too. But, I'm pretty sure it was not their idea.

[@beansdestroyer]

White women are always treating their children and their precious minorities like purse puppies. Just social fashion accessories

[@TanyaJoyce]

Helen Joyce is such a brilliant woman. What a mind!

[@frishter]

Being the "cool" mum actually scarily makes a lot of sense given the virtue signalling is all about seeking approval which ironically is not very cool.

[@user-xj8yl2dh4p]

Very well put . It's a religion. You are not meant to understand it

[@TorontoJon]

It's not religion; it's a cult which is far more insidious and dangerous.

[@RhetoricalMuse]

But we can understand religions - we have whole disciplines for studying them.

[@joemadden4160]

@@RhetoricalMuseNo. There is NO understanding in religion nor in philosophy. Like THE LAW, it is mutable and will remain so FOREVER. Why do you think there are millions of LAWYERS and millions of PHILOSOPHERS? Religion, like all philosophies, is a SHILL...that murders, rapes, robs. There is NO difference between Maoism and Islam, between Catholicism and Nazism. None.

[@sierraairehvac]

@@RhetoricalMuse Exactly. With Christian’s it’s sin that separates us from God. Jesus walked the earth and didn’t sin. Which means he was not separated from God. He established an ideal way to live that we will only fall short of. But by accepting that he is the ideal, that he is at the top of the hierarchy we can be saved. Seems like a fairly simple concept to understand. Also I know I’m missing some things in that exploration

[@TheQueenrevolution]

I agree. She explained this very well.

[@gitoffmahlawn]

Helen Joyce is next level brilliant and courageous on this issue.

[@scottshanahan3827]

The chanting and slogan repeating are especially telling regarding the cultish aspect of this.

[@TorontoJon]

It's not religion; it's a cult which is far more insidious and dangerous.

[@randombsgo4367]

the word id CULT!

[@scottshanahan3827]

@@randombsgo4367 that's a much better word, I'm going to edit the post

[@Gitn2it]

​@randombsgo4367 Yes. They have a rabid determination to protect their decision to do this. I doubt they would feel the same way about taking their kids to a drag racing event.

[@Sairfecht]

Chants are heard at nearly every demonstration of any kind. It’s a group/tribe thing. Standing around or marching with a placard would get boring and be less noticeable otherwise. Chants do help solidify the feeing of being part of a group/common cause.

[@chriswallace9113]

What called “drag” now is more like hyper-gay extreme versions of an amalgamation of New York Dolls, David Bowie and KISS than impersonating women.

[@y2keef]

I know gay people who find this trans/drag/gay hyper sexualised culture abhorrent because now all gay people are being looked at like they are leather wearing, ball gag chewing weirdos When in all fairness they're as normal as you or I but like getting it on with other men instead.

[@user-ks3ol3lw3b]

Drag was always a caricature of women. Female impersonators typically put on serious shows, singing songs like Judy Garland or Marilyn Monroe. Drag queens wore exaggerated makeup to look like cartoon women, and talked like prostitutes for the entertainment of gay men. And with no women in the room in gay clubs, they could trash women for a laugh and safely get away with it.

[@chrisbuggy4849]

The Tubes doing White Punks on Dope live.

[@jkkjeldsen8249]

I remember the days when mothers would protect their children at all costs.

[@reapthewhirlwind4166]

There was a drag show at Forsyth tech community college in my hometown North Carolina. Thank heavens there was lots of negative pushback. A 14-year-old girl got a lap dance and there were children younger even that were there brought in by their parents I guess. Daily Mail did a good article about this

[@HAKIMOSANARQUISTAS]

ITS DONE BY AND FOR PEDOS YESSSSSSSSSSSSS , READ DR MONEY

[@magicalfrijoles6766]

Are you saying every drag queen is a pedo?

[@Sairfecht]

Did you actually listen to what they said?

[@Dram1984]

100%

[@trogglepope9792]

​​@@Sairfecht What they said makes total sense, and it's true of most ideological foot soldiers, but it's also factually true that gender ideology started with monstrous child molesters to begin with (Kinsey and Money).

[@HAKIMOSANARQUISTAS]

@@Sairfecht always , I'm answering exact based upon that, but do u even knew dr mo ey work? They know , só they should not ask what they already knew ... ignorant peasant

[@randombsgo4367]

if my parents dragged me to a drag show as a kid id be scarred for life!

[@jax9349]

I think by today's standards, but I loved Dick Emery as a kid .... didn't understand all the jokes!

[@xyxy5978]

We actually went out to play when we were kids. Those were the days. 😊

[@johnnunn8688]

@@jax9349, 5 wives, 4 children and an avid motorcyclist. Pretty sure he was a normal.

[@daviru02]

Helen is very awesome.

[@doreenknudson2098]

This is the clearest explanation I have ever heard. Excellent. Thanks!

[@shooster5884]

No, raising a toddler does not have any boring reason to take your toddler to a drag storytime.. We all enjoyed pantomime where guys played female parts and visa versa... but we knew it was for fun, they were mem and women dressing up in a parody way. Not for a minute did the audience assume that the actors did this in real life..

[@givmi_more_w9251]

Exactly. I very much enjoy Lily Savage (RIP Paul O'Grady) as a character. Of course Lily is just as much over the top as drag is, but 'she' was funny as hell. Still not something I'd expose little kids, too, foul language and all, but just good old fun for adults.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

I can't stand pantomime, and even as a child I saw that all the female parody was to ridicule and demean. Name a pantomime Dame that isnt ridiculous or sinister...and then think about how the girl playing the male character is the 'hero'. There is drag that is overdone but actually still an hommage to women, and often witty, and then there is the gross and demeaning, crude and grossly sexualised type.

[@shooster5884]

@@shelleyphilcox4743 As a kid I never took pantomime seriously... it was just a rare exciting night out... but then I'm older generation so going to a panto or any such entertainment either side of 1960 was a major treat added to by lemonade and sweets, neither of those an everyday given! ☺️

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@@shooster5884 Hi...I'm not a spring chicken! I appreciate that the majority see panto as harmless entertainment and look no further than the the general humour...and I'm not completely humourless. I am fond of Lily Savage and Mrs Brown as characters...I admired the wit and I am also quite touched by some of the observational insight Paul O'Grady and Brendan OCarrol(l?) put into their female characters at times. I think for me, the panto thing is that it's generally making the dames grotesque and wicked and the heroes played by girls...its the specific contrast that grates on my nerves and I'm not a fan of farce. However, I fully appreciate that it doesnt need to be that deep and that there are lovely childhood memories of having a family special treat and a bit of fun together, and I really dont mean to try and tarnish that lovely innocent pleasure with my cynicism. X

[@johirsty7392]

My mum took me shopping and trips to the sea, im glad i had a mother that wasn't a lunatic.

[@darbyheavey406]

It’s the Mothers seeking affirmation.

[@thelordakira]

or their personal purse puppy project.

[@beansdestroyer]

@@thelordakira just like blm and stop asian hate. Its always about themselves

[@Boskov01]

Not just mothers. There's more than a few dads that are doing this to their kids too.

[@clogs4956]

I’m pretty certain that, although a few parents go along with the agenda for cachet, there are many scared they’ll lose their child(ren) to the state if they don’t comply.

[@thelordakira]

@@clogs4956 IN Cali there are laws that would do that.

[@iamkesha.]

As a retired US a veteran, who had a high level security clearance, when I volunteered to be the classroom mom, I still had to get fingerprinted to be around kids. This should be the rule everywhere. If people are entertaining kids, the entertainer should be fingerprinted. As for parents, I don’t understand how they accept a fake caricature of women in skimpy clothing to be stripper pole dancing in front of kids.

[@jennybardoville5455]

Perhaps these schools will label the parents transphobic if they raise any issue

[@karlfrancis546]

Helen Joyce, Helen Pluckrose and J.K. Rowling are FAB. More power to all of 'em!

[@Bellasguy]

Awesome guest love to see more of her

[@jennifermary2350]

Check out Heretics with Andrew Gold -he has interviewed Helen Joyce I believe-she is a great speaker

[@Bellasguy]

@@jennifermary2350 thank you

[@michaeldoolan7595]

A parent taking a child to this needs their children removing from then.

[@RhetoricalMuse]

Bit harsh and illegal.

[@alexshaw4182]

A bit dramatic. Men dressing up as women has been part of theatre for centuries, calm yourself.

[@thomridgeway1438]

No they are more likely to use the Social Services to take your kids from you

[@Brett.D]

@@alexshaw4182 With the audience full of 3 year olds...we see you groomer...

[@billvojtech5686]

And given to who? The State? The State is pushing queer theory. Shut down the places that host drag shows for kids. Fine the parents. Behavior modification. Carrot and stick.

[@alexzannoni1501]

This is simply disgusting behaviour by these woke parents!!!!!

[@pollyester6639]

6:19 KKs face, yes mate I feel the way you look. Parenting is the one and only job that has catastrophic results if we get it wrong.

[@errin-mp1zy]

I think a surgeons job has catastrophic results if they get it wrong too.

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

Tax money for scary clowns?

[@venator-fb7yy]

There will be alot of clown phobias in the future thanks to these ped0 abominations.😡

[@rustyscrapper]

Because in their mind it increases their social credit score so they are front running the game to gain percieved status in society. Then they can talk about it at work and gain status at work so they are more likely to get promoted.

[@chamuuemura5314]

S&G might be bullied into not publicly admitting it, but this ideology reminds me of the “neon gods” from Sound of Silence.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

I can't help but think of the Aztecs and the Canaanites who offered up child sacrifices to win favor with their gods.

[@heidistringer2096]

Drag is too close to clowns and I am terrified of clowns.

[@ktwashere5637]

Exposing a child to sexual content which is too advanced for them is in the definition of sexual abuse. These parents need to be investigated. If I had seen stuff like that when I was a young child it would have traumatised me. There is societal outrage about children being able to access porn yet here we have adults taking their children to what is essentially a strip show.

[@rubbernuke1234]

The cut to Francis at 3:49 is priceless. His look is what most people have when confronted by this nonsense.

[@Suzi.M]

And more than a religion, a cultish one at that! 😎🥰🌍

[@errin-mp1zy]

You misspelt that word, I think you'll find it's a N not L 🤣

[@gaigestorm8155]

A large portion is social contagion as well, born from the internet acting almost cult like. We've also all seen people who blatantly do it for no other reasons than attention, a false sense of moral superiority, and to abuse the undeniable advantages the ideology carries with it in today's climate

[@benjistorment1655]

Kisin said Drag is a legitimate part of art and culture. This is where they go wrong by accepting it at all. This is what gives it a foothold.

[@ellec5584]

Drag is as legitimate in art and culture as minstrel shows were. That is to say, it’s offensive, gross, and does nothing to elevate art or culture in society.

[@peterjermey7235]

In the UK where I grew up drag is a traditional part of children's entertainment at Christmas. Now I live in the US I'm astonished that people think it's so dangerous it needs to be banned

[@Gingerblaze]

For ADULTS not children.

[@peterjermey7235]

@@Gingerblaze why shouldn't it be up to parents to decide what is suitable entertainment for their own children? And what is it about drag that means it's never suitable for children?

[@ellec5584]

@@peterjermey7235 I don’t know or care how the birth of Jesus got to be celebrated with drag queens for children in the UK, but I can confidently say you guys are celebrating Christmas wrong.

[@lloydbraun6026]

Amazingly all three children Charlize Theron adopted turned out trans. How did she get so unlucky?

[@BbTenn]

Amazing isn’t it. She must be very special indeed.

[@Gingerblaze]

Talk about anomolies

[@ellisdunegan8555]

Socially acceptable Munchausen by proxy.

[@nal004]

Loved this woman’s casual description of these things

[@nillieable]

When a society stops differentiating between good and evil, that society is doomed.

[@annmariesim1405]

unless its a pantomime then kids should not be exposed or groomed let kids be kids they should be outside playing or playing inside this nonsense has to stop

[@toodlepop]

i was scared of the witch in the little mermaid when i was a kid. i can't imagine my parents pushing me up towards the stage towards someone that looked like her and making me put dollar bills into their underwear. and also, they woke up and flipped a coin, and that was how they decided that people dressing sexy was "empowering" instead of "appealing to the male gaze". but that one could have gone either way.

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

Did you know Ursula is based on a drag queen named Devine? Or just a coincidence?

[@fernandonaumann]

What a marvelous and wonderfully obvious point by Helen.

[@gretaeberhardt541]

It’s just weird!…that describes it perfectly.

[@user-gw9sk1zy4s]

Childhood transgederism is child sacrifice.

[@Gingerblaze]

Horrible and heartbreaking that so many do not see.

[@nadie2795]

WOKE status is super important for women, like the latest Louis Vuitton shoes, Givenchy bag, or a BBL. Having an illegal servant... over the top status

[@GabrielleTollerson]

awww,poor men being delusional.

[@jhb1493]

Agreed. Who is doing this? Largely white, liberal, upper middle class women. Same with DEI and other virtue signalling movements that are not what they appear. These women vote and have tremendous purchasing power. They're one of the reasons why cultural powerhouses like Disney went HARD woke. Sensible people need to start calling this stuff out. BRING BACK SHAME.

[@MizrahiChick]

For SOME women . I can't say that I understand what status even means . Some perfect stranger being impressed with me for owning a purse ? Couldn't care less.

[@marywoolley-nb7ct]

As a boring granny I just find drag creepy and totally unsuitable for my grandchildren. I cannot understand why it is on television and everyone thinks that it is so wonderful. Thank you Helen for being the voice of reason and articulating it so well.👏🏽

[@kat19805]

Hellen is BRILLIANT. Please get her back on 🙏

[@mrror8933]

And how they can also support is-lame while keeping a straight face...

[@stephanieroth16]

Muslim parents in the US are some of the most vocal speaking against trans ideology in schools.

[@dannypope1860]

What a fantastic guest! She is 10,000% correct.

[@ZappyOh]

It has to stop.

[@treesurgeon2441]

I'll take the Trinity over this nonsense any day.

[@dewijlr]

The Trinity is relational and beautiful

[@HostileTakeover555]

You don’t have to take either…

[@mechengineer4life]

AWFLs do this… Affluent White Female Liberal

[@user-vv7hb8ok2f]

insanity.

[@FrancescoDiMauro]

how the hell have we come to this?

[@raminybhatti5740]

As much as I've come to despise religion, in all honesty the Enlightenment was the beginning of it. It just snowballed from there.

[@FrancescoDiMauro]

@@raminybhatti5740 can't deny how much good came from it though.

[@kathleencollier5277]

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ it’s the mystery of faith and our 🌎 needs God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit more than ever before. To equate trans ideology to Catholicism, or any other faith is ludicrous and indicative of how far the world has fallen. Think fallen angel, bingo!

[@xyxy5978]

Yes, Catholicism seems worse, come to think of it. 😢 All the pain they caused...

[@user-ij2wn1pk1p]

Take a good, deep and objective look (if that’s possible) at your Catholicism and you will truly be enlightened. Catholicism and all religions for that matter have an uncanny resemblance to the trans ideology cult.

[@pamelaglickman1216]

If it isn't socially acceptable for white people to dress up / pretend to be black people for comedic / entertainment purposes, it should be just as socially unacceptable for males to dress up as females. The fact that dudes have been doing it a long time isn't an excuse. Minstrel shows were once a tradition that black people went along with. I don't imagine we'll be able to abolish drag within my lifetime, but we should at least be putting forward the idea that drag is sexist garbage even when there's no children and no sexuality involved. Obviously involving kids and exposing them to overt sexuality makes it worse, but that's far from the only problem.

[@jhb1493]

Follow that logic through. Going to ban women from wearing men's clothing, like jeans or pants? I'm sure you'll find that suggestion ridiculous because somehow women are oppressed or some other womanist exuse that makes it ok. As for comparing Drag to Minstrel shows - that's a hard reach. Society had a lot of highly negative beliefs about black people that the Minstrel Shows exploited and reinforced. Can you argue that about drag queens? You claim drag is "sexist garbage" but who in their right mind would ever look at a drag queen and think 'yes, this is a reflection of actual women, this is exploitation". If you can't differentiate between parody or homage and sexism, I'm not sure I'd want you having the power to ABOLISH anything. You're a slippery slope just waiting to happen.

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

My parents never took me to any of those things when I was a little however there was a thing on the radio about Raceway Park where they have the drag races... vroom vroom

[@lindinle]

Freehold raceway park??

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

@@lindinle in the states.., you're supposed to hear it with lots of Echo and Reverb is what it's all about really

[@lindinle]

@@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow huh? I meant the raceway park. Was it in freehold?

[@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow]

@@lindinle man it was on the radio on the radio..... I never went

[@lindinle]

@@ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow do you remember a little voice as the announcer?

[@iNeedaBreakdown]

Konstantins reaction from 6:18 - 6:23 pretty much sums up my feelings about all of this nonsense

[@IOSALive]

Triggernometry, I really enjoyed this video, so I hit the like button!

[@acerrubrum5749]

❤Helen Joyce ❤

[@martinheath5947]

No dog has two tails My dog has one more tail than no dog therefore My dog has three tails

[@BbTenn]

Unassailable logic!

[@carlbyronrodgers]

Clarity as always from Mrs Joyce.

[@lukagumberidze8083]

Trinity is easily understandable. If water has different states of being Ice, steam and water itself, god is a creator, has been born as a person - Jesus Christ and has presence in the world as a holy spirit. It’s 1 entity

[@endthelogin]

Equating the mysteries of God with the trans self ID is absolute rubbish, there’s nothing about trans identity that is a mystery

[@jseal21]

I don't beat up on atheists, I genuinely feel bad for them, but I understand the Trinity. It may have been tough at first but it didn't take much mental energy to get it. And I'm protestant so I don't mindlessly chant responses as she seems to see it, we ask questions of our Pastor and he helps us find answers. Maybe it's different in Catholicism...

[@stephanieroth16]

It isn't different in Catholicism and I don't think using the Trinity is apt in describing trans madness. But Helen is phenomenal!

[@jseal21]

@@stephanieroth16 Yes she is! And my wife is Catholic so I don't even know why I said maybe it was different...

[@cw-on-yt]

Konstantin's face @6:19 to 6:23 🤣 Inwardly, he's like, "That's it, I'm f***ing tearing up my human-race membership card, and I'm throwing it in the f***ing bin." I relate, brother. I relate.

[@freeman8128]

Let kids be kids (baby goats) and let children be CHILDREN (baby humans).

[@bah-bah29hinks7]

I have friends who do drag. They are not family friendly! No kids allowed at their shows!! They do not want that either!!🤣🤡🥹

[@carlosdanger7499]

Wood chipper go BRRRRRRR!

[@apolovillalobos5250]

This is the most lucid explanation of the subject. I don't know who this lady is, but she hit the nail on the head.

[@_wombman_]

Interesting how she continues to down play the pEdo file aspect of the trance cult

[@kbeetles]

Being a Mum to a toddler is boring?? Supposed to be boring?? When you can watch the amazing development of your child's mind every day?!! .... Adults laughing at little, dirty sexual jokes?? Sorry? Does an adult do that or is it stunted adolescent pretending to be an adult? Why are we accepting the cheapest ways of being an adult?? Oh, the great secular liberals who must apologise for all kinds of behaviour.... I am sick of this!

[@petef15]

It's one of the main things that puts me off having children. The thought that they could be being taught that in schools and you wouldn't even know it. And then even if you did know you can't do anything about it.

[@slickrick7438]

The problem is the education system. If your taught this nonsense, from a young age especially, then you believe in it whole heartedly.

[@dewijlr]

The Trinity is relational and beautiful... Its not like the nonesense and irrationality of transgender ideology.

[@dawnemile7499]

Deprogram yourself by actually studying the Bible and facing the truth therein. The Bible condemns those who love lies.

[@thefatpakyak2826]

@@dawnemile7499clearly the speaker just doesn’t understand the trinity. It makes sense if you really looked into it instead of believing “just because you were told”

[@dawnemile7499]

@@thefatpakyak2826 I've studied Revelation line by line and there is no Trinity in that book of the Bible although it is an extensive description of heaven, heavenly beings, God and the Lamb of God. There is no Holy Spirit alongside them and I'm that if this was the case it would have been made clear.

[@thefatpakyak2826]

@@dawnemile7499 if youre referring to the word trinity being in the bible thats correct, the word is never mentioned, just the same way the word bible is never mentioned in the bible. the trinity is just theology of understanding God. The book of John explains God, the holy spirit, and Jesus

[@nunyabizness3777]

Well, she doesn't have the basic definition of the Trinity right. It's got nothing to do with "three Gods."

[@jennifermary2350]

Oxford languages definition “the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.”

[@nunyabizness3777]

@@jennifermary2350 Exactly. Three Person, not three Gods.

[@danielreiss-cy4zr]

"I took my kids to Ashton's 'Cinderella'. It was the mistake of my life."

[@martingifford5415]

They love playing with boundaries. At my university, a gay professor mentioned that ancient Greek men had sexual relations with boys and that it was seen as perfectly normal. He didn't mention that slavery was also seen as perfectly normal. A straight female professor showed us a photo of a naked girl and asked us to debate when a photo of a girl becomes sexualised, e.g. an image of her with down-cast eyes might or might not be interpreted as sexualised. They see it as gaining freedom from white males who maintain power through the deployment of arbitrary boundaries.

[@Patrick3183]

Exactly why straight men need to stay in control

[@Thatssomebadhatharry1]

Drag is for adults only !!!

[@Starkardur]

I guess, theatres, concerts, movies, restaurants etc is for adults only too.

[@lw1zfog]

@@Starkardur you’re in the wrong place to attempt your defence of the indefensible

[@Starkardur]

@@lw1zfog Drag shows are fun. For the most part it's stand up comedy and a mime act, don't exactly see what's so awful about it but some Karens find that disturbing.

[@grumpygramps1451]

@@Starkardur. Theatres, concerts, movies etc,etc are nothing more than a form of entertainment. The idea behind taking children to a drag act is to induce the child into accepting or encouraging the child to accept trans is an ok state of being. A child could be very susceptible to this influence as they are not yet mature enough to decide for themselves if transgender is or isn’t for them. This is why the law doesn’t allow children to marry, engage in contractual agreements, become airline pilots etc, etc, etc……..they are simply not mature enough to understand the complexity of what they are getting into. So no, there is no comparison between drag & movie theatres.

[@randombsgo4367]

lets narrow that down to gay adults, that like to see that stuff!

[@survivaloptions4999]

Tell me you don't know the difference between a religion and a cult without saying you don't know the difference between a religion and a cult. With friends like this....

[@GabrielleTollerson]

who needs enemies

[@PapaCottonDCLXVI]

When you realize that everything is SUPPOSED to be confusing, how can you continue to be confused?

[@m1dn1ght5un]

Helen has been a stalwart on this issue for years. She's a treasure.

[@Tyler_WI]

The trinity is not a mystery and you are meant to, and can understand it

[@mrbaker7443]

I agree… it’s not 3 gods in one, it’s one God in 3 forms….

[@xyxy5978]

Why then does nobody understand it? 😂

[@factsdontlie4342]

@@xyxy5978 Two reasons: 1, they never actually tried to learn. 2, they're stupid. This isn't a hard concept.

[@lisalapoint7022]

@@xyxy5978 I don't think religion is "meant" to never be understood. My religion makes sense, and the more I study it, the more sense it makes. Thinking deeply about something, and reading about it, praying about it, and watching videos on it, etc. can help a person understand.

[@johnfrancis4401]

Rubbish she doesn't understand Catholicism. It is not blind faith. It is rational. So I'm disappointed she used the example of the Trinity - possibly the only aspect of Christianity that is mind boggling. But she is right about the rest of it.

[@hengineer]

It's an aspect of Catholicism, not all of Christianity. A lot of "heresies" and many Christian denominations started from humans attempting to rationalize the Trinity and attempting to understand it on earthly physics terms.

[@deborahbreeden4394]

As a child, I understood that the beloved comedian, Red Foxx, had lots of adult material that was not suitable for TV because it wasn't suitable for children 🙄

[@thelordakira]

They don't want their kids to be targeted and harassed by the teachers and other kids.

[@ulrichenevoldsen8371]

I am not religious but if she doesn't get the 3 in 1 she did not use her thinking skills a lor😂