Why Pattinson’s Batman is PERFECT for the DCU

[@adam_brickstreetboy]

Matt Reeves has explicitly said that he wants to keep his universe as a grounded one and won't go full supernatural. James Gunn is going full supernatural and comic accurate

[@TheMainMan364]

That could change

[@brownjordan0523]

He did, and while many fans respected Matt Reeves' vision, it's one that is extremely closed-minded and lacks long-term potential for creativity. Just because you create a grounded story doesn't mean it can't go bigger. Matt Reeves should know this best because he worked on Planet of the Apes. Also, look at the MCU in its baby steps during Phase One. In the beginning, we had Tony Stark in his Ironman suit flying about taking on the everyday evils of corparate crime, War Based Terrorism, and copycats in their own suits. Then, as timed progressed, we got Gamma Monsters, Gods, Super Soldiers coming back from the 40s, and alien invasions, which boom led to the assembly of the Avengers But even after the avengers had their first outing together , the core heroes were still able to coexist in their own respective worlds. Ironman and War Machine still fought their daily dose of extremists and War Mongers. Thor went back to Asgard and the 9 realms venturing throughout the Cosmos to bring stability. Captain America was going on Black Ops missions with SHIELD because His whole purpose was to be a warrior with a mission to liberate the world from human evils. Hulk was chilling because, well, the MCU didn't know what to do with him. But as the universe grew, we saw the introduction of more heroes that came from various self-contained backgrounds. So what's stopping DC from operating on a similar beat. James Gunn said straight up he wants to collab with different artists so that they can tell masterful stories that puts these heroes on the map. And another statement that matt reeves said was that he was looking to make movies that capture the spirit and essence of Batman, so why not do all aspects of his character, including the moments where he tackles cases that delve into the supernatural or have him step outside of Gotham. I'm not saying that it's gonna happen. But it would be just something to think about storywise.

[@BlackTGambit]

@@brownjordan0523talk your shit king or Queen

[@superheroesmadness135]

That false mate

[@joshuawatt5300]

The Batman trilogy can be grounded, while when Batman joins the justice league they can go more crazy. MCU has done this for years. Captain America trilogy is very grounded and normal, but when he fights thanos nobody bats an eye

[@fuzzandstatic]

Iron Man started off grounded and gradually became more fantastical as the MCU progressed. Whether people want this or not is pretty split but it absolutely can work.

[@virenrana6459]

Not really. In DCU heroes have already existed, it absolutely doesn't work

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

How was the first Ironman grounded? Cause I see Stane in a giant suit as fantastical.

[@Maksat-s8x]

Iron man 1 was grounded?

[@sharkanenoa5928]

The DCU is a fantastical world. The reason the batman is because it's grounded and it's meant to stay grounded

[@fuzzandstatic]

@@virenrana6459 it absolutely can, you just don't want it too. I get it and I personally don't even like Battinson but it can be done.

[@yurizhivago9624]

People keep saying the tones are too different, that’s the point of the dynamic between Superman and Batman. It’s a cinematic universe, the whole fun part of it is that these heroes with different tones and styles come together. I just don’t like the idea of two separate Batmans being shown in theatres at the same time

[@r4pstar343]

@yurizhivago9624 i don't understand why people have so much issues with there being two different iterations of a character..... There's All Star Superman, then there's Superman red Sun. Et

[@ChiagoziePeter]

@@r4pstar343🤦‍♂️

[@ZoroGg-w8r]

I don't know if it's so much the difference in tone of light vs dark, everyone knows that's the dynamic between Superman and Batman. It might more so be the difference in feeling between a fantastical vs a grounded universe. With how it is currently it feels like Robert Patterson's Batman would die in 2 seconds in the universe David Corenswet's Superman is in.

[@SpiderGuyy]

No, they aren’t talking about the character dynamic more of the world itself, just imagine you’re in metropolis and you see all these kaiju monsters and crazy villains like mirror master or something, not to mention wearing fabrics or spandex. and then you go to Gotham right next to it and the whole demeanor changes, grounded villains, no super powered heroes but more technical superheroes, villains and heroes with padded and more armored clothing and more just dark overall. It would just feel weird. Hope this helps!

[@yurizhivago9624]

@@SpiderGuyyyeah I definitely get what you’re saying when looking at it from that point of view. Tbh, I was honestly hoping Reeves would be slightly more fantastical in the sequels anyway, with Mr. Freeze or a Poison Ivy. Chris Nolan already gave us Batman if he really existed, extremely realistic and grounded, I think it’s time to switch it up a bit, even slightly. But again, u are right and I hadn’t thought of it from that perspective

[@lukelaps9298]

A Batman learning to become a symbol of hope meeting a superman who is one would have some interesting story potential

[@Mohit_Yadav168]

That actually sounds great, plus if they fumble with Brave & The Bold, we'll hv the DCEU issue all over again.

[@Take0ver420]

I agree with that

[@hanif-pl5hd]

It's crazy that pattinson will be 41 when batman 2 goes out, he'll be older than bale was during TKDR

[@ComicNerdEDITZ654]

The dark knight rises?

[@hanif-pl5hd]

@ComicNerdEDITZ654 yes bale was 38

[@hanif-pl5hd]

@josereyes2002 i meant the knark dight rises

[@Woodysarawut]

That is actually insane. 5 years between sequels is ridiculous.

[@omarcarlos537]

Well originally the sequel was supposed take place right after the first movie however with delays it would make sense for the Batman part 2 to take place a couple years after the first one which also implies a more experienced Batman. If they set the time right after the first movie that would be a big mistake sense patison is older

[@PrinceAlComics]

I feel the BIGGEST reason everyone wants Pattinsons Batman in the DCU is because no one wants Andy Muschietti directing the new Batman movie

[@doc8013]

That's def a big part. But I think it has more to do with how good Pattinson already is in the role.

[@PrinceAlComics]

@ Ya that's also why people want Mr. Freeze to fight Pattinson and not the DCU Batman

[@DaWhisper]

I think he would do just fine. The batman scenes in the flash were actually really good imo. Its not like he's gonna be coming up with the script or designs himself. The script and design for the movie is what I'm worried about the most

[@senthilkumarbaliah5129]

Andy made IT movies too … Flash had multiple directors walking out, atleast Andy finished it… Flash is an exception and it definitely had some moments… Andy could do a good Batman movie….

[@PrinceAlComics]

@ I love the first One and the second one isn't really his fault because of how the second book isn't as good anyway, but I feel like Andy needs to do a movie like he said and make that other movie so he can win people over

[@RichardDaguno]

If Pattinson and Corenswet will team up I think that will be a good start for DCU.

[@ultron_sigma]

Except that's unlikely to happen

[@isaiahbrown8929]

​@@ultron_sigmaUh unlikely theory 🤓

[@matt_demelio]

Agreed.

[@nickfelonia9692]

If they want to merge Pattinson batman, they should scrap the idea of The brave and the bold and have it be the batman 2 with it introducing robin. No need to have a old batman with a young superman because that doesnt work. They would have to age up Pattinson with some cgi or makeup. Sure, The Brave and the Bold would establish a Bat Family but it would be cool to see both young versions of Batman and Superman growing into the characters they were meant to be.

[@zachgordon99]

I think third one would be better for that. They kinda have a grounded take on the Schumacher version of Robin and Alfred and occasionally Pattinson in involvement and then maybe some good moments near the end.

[@zachgordon99]

Check this out let me know what you think it’s long.

[@zachgordon99]

1/ Matt Reeves & James Gunn, here’s why Robert Pattinson’s Batman should evolve into the DCU and how it could work. This isn’t just about “fitting him in”-it’s about using Reeves’ trilogy to create a unified Batman arc that feels natural, respects fans, and expands the DCU. 2/ Reeves’ trilogy perfectly grounds Bruce Wayne: from raw vengeance (Part I) to refined protector (Part II) and eventual mentor (Part III). Each film develops Bruce emotionally and tactically. By Part III, he’s seasoned, prepared for larger responsibilities beyond Gotham. • In Part II, Bruce refines his methods with villains like Hush, Penguin, and Mr. Freeze, exploring themes of trust, control, and vulnerability. • In Part III, Bruce faces a threat like the Court of Owls, and potentially meets Damian Wayne. This deepens his emotional arc, showing him as a father figure and mature leader. 3/ After Reeves’ trilogy, Pattinson’s Batman transitions perfectly into the DCU. Imagine his gritty detective style clashing with Corenswet’s hopeful Superman in World’s Finest. Their dynamic would feel fresh, contrasting methods but building mutual respect. • Batman represents control, strategy, and pragmatism. • Superman embodies optimism, power, and compassion. • Their relationship would evolve naturally, with each challenging the other’s worldview. 4/ Fantastical elements? They can work-and Reeves’ grounded tone makes them more compelling. • Clayface (already shown in Creature Commandos) starts as a biotech tragedy: an actor experimenting with cutting-edge prosthetics who becomes something more monstrous. • Mr. Freeze: A cryotech scientist driven by love, not spectacle, whose tech could plausibly exist in Reeves’ world. • Poison Ivy: A modern eco-terrorist using plant-based biochem, not magic, but still deadly and morally complex. • These characters evolve naturally from Reeves’ world, expanding into the larger DCU without feeling forced. 5/ The DCU timeline builds on this perfectly: • World’s Finest introduces Batman and Superman’s partnership, blending Gotham’s grounded tone with Superman’s hopeful heroics. • Titans form later, using Batman as a key mentor figure. Dick Grayson could appear after Reeves’ trilogy, bridging to Damian Wayne and building the Bat-Family over time. • Villains like Lex Luthor or Brainiac could bring Gotham and Metropolis together organically in larger Justice League stories. 6/ Reeves and Gunn’s visions complement each other: • Reeves’ trilogy creates the emotional foundation, grounding Bruce in realism while giving him room to grow. • Gunn’s DCU expands that foundation, allowing Batman to step into larger team-ups and cosmic-level threats without losing his core identity. This collaboration would create a balanced DCU: grounded yet limitless, personal yet epic. 7/ The DCU has already started integrating unique tones (Creature Commandos, Superman: Legacy), but Reeves’ Batman could serve as the “realism anchor” of this universe. Gotham’s grounded storytelling becomes the perfect foil to Metropolis’ idealism or Themyscira’s mythology. 8/ Fans love Reeves’ work, but they also want a unified DCU. This plan respects both: Reeves finishes his trilogy uninterrupted, and Pattinson steps into the DCU naturally after. No rush, no compromise-just storytelling excellence. Together, you’d create something iconic. 9/ The key is collaboration: Reeves builds Bruce emotionally. Gunn expands his world. This sets Batman up for World’s Finest, the Bat-Family, and Justice League films without losing what makes his character resonate. Unified, but organic. Let’s make it happen. This thread brings together: 1. Reeves’ trilogy’s evolution of Bruce Wayne into a mature Batman. 2. DCU integration: how it works in World’s Finest, Titans, and larger team-ups. 3. Fantastical elements: grounded origins that expand into larger storytelling. 4. Big-picture vision: Why this plan respects Reeves, fans, and the DCU. Think of Reeves’ trilogy and the DCU like Star Wars. Reeves’ Batman trilogy can be its own grounded masterpiece, like the Original Trilogy. It builds emotional depth and sets the stage for a larger universe. The DCU mirrors the Star Wars cinematic tapestry: diverse, interconnected stories (like Gotham, Metropolis, and Themyscira) coexisting without losing their individuality. Each project adds a unique chapter to the larger narrative, just like Star Wars built its galaxy over time. Reeves’ grounded world serves as the anchor, much like Luke’s story centered Star Wars. It’s intimate, emotional, and deeply human-while the DCU expands it, respecting its foundation and honoring its tone.

[@SuperKhalid95]

It’s already confirmed that they will never merge Pattinson’s Batman with DCU

[@ultron_sigma]

You need to stop fantasizing about those two actors. Because there's already a batman existing in the DCU.

[@ComicNerdEDITZ654]

Casual fans aren’t stupid. They can tell the difference between two live action versions of Batman

[@isaiahbrown8929]

They don't need casual fans they need normal audience goers to succeed

[@ComicNerdEDITZ654]

@@isaiahbrown8929 they can also tell the difference between two live action versions of a character

[@isaiahbrown8929]

@ComicNerdEDITZ654 they can tell the difference on which one is really good vs the one that will be mediocre.

[@ComicNerdEDITZ654]

@@isaiahbrown8929 that’s not even what we are talking about

[@Mohit_Yadav168]

​@ComicNerdEDITZ654 I think u're also slightly overestimating the casual movie goers here. A good part of their revenue comes from the audience who either do not follow these movie timelines or hv never read the comics so it can surely lead to some confusion or disinterest. Especially if u talk about people from outside the US, a large chunk of the audience wouldn't know why they hv two different Batmans with entirely different universes. Sure like u said, they can still connect the dots and follow along if the movies are good but there's always a risk associated with it..!

[@zachgordon99]

1/ Matt Reeves & James Gunn, here’s why Robert Pattinson’s Batman should evolve into the DCU and how it could work. This isn’t just about “fitting him in”-it’s about using Reeves’ trilogy to create a unified Batman arc that feels natural, respects fans, and expands the DCU. 2/ Reeves’ trilogy perfectly grounds Bruce Wayne: from raw vengeance (Part I) to refined protector (Part II) and eventual mentor (Part III). Each film develops Bruce emotionally and tactically. By Part III, he’s seasoned, prepared for larger responsibilities beyond Gotham. • In Part II, Bruce refines his methods with villains like Hush, Penguin, and Mr. Freeze, exploring themes of trust, control, and vulnerability. • In Part III, Bruce faces a threat like the Court of Owls, and potentially meets Damian Wayne. This deepens his emotional arc, showing him as a father figure and mature leader. 3/ After Reeves’ trilogy, Pattinson’s Batman transitions perfectly into the DCU. Imagine his gritty detective style clashing with Corenswet’s hopeful Superman in World’s Finest. Their dynamic would feel fresh, contrasting methods but building mutual respect. • Batman represents control, strategy, and pragmatism. • Superman embodies optimism, power, and compassion. • Their relationship would evolve naturally, with each challenging the other’s worldview. 4/ Fantastical elements? They can work-and Reeves’ grounded tone makes them more compelling. • Clayface (already shown in Creature Commandos) starts as a biotech tragedy: an actor experimenting with cutting-edge prosthetics who becomes something more monstrous. • Mr. Freeze: A cryotech scientist driven by love, not spectacle, whose tech could plausibly exist in Reeves’ world. • Poison Ivy: A modern eco-terrorist using plant-based biochem, not magic, but still deadly and morally complex. • These characters evolve naturally from Reeves’ world, expanding into the larger DCU without feeling forced. 5/ The DCU timeline builds on this perfectly: • World’s Finest introduces Batman and Superman’s partnership, blending Gotham’s grounded tone with Superman’s hopeful heroics. • Titans form later, using Batman as a key mentor figure. Dick Grayson could appear after Reeves’ trilogy, bridging to Damian Wayne and building the Bat-Family over time. • Villains like Lex Luthor or Brainiac could bring Gotham and Metropolis together organically in larger Justice League stories. 6/ Reeves and Gunn’s visions complement each other: • Reeves’ trilogy creates the emotional foundation, grounding Bruce in realism while giving him room to grow. • Gunn’s DCU expands that foundation, allowing Batman to step into larger team-ups and cosmic-level threats without losing his core identity. This collaboration would create a balanced DCU: grounded yet limitless, personal yet epic. 7/ The DCU has already started integrating unique tones (Creature Commandos, Superman: Legacy), but Reeves’ Batman could serve as the “realism anchor” of this universe. Gotham’s grounded storytelling becomes the perfect foil to Metropolis’ idealism or Themyscira’s mythology. 8/ Fans love Reeves’ work, but they also want a unified DCU. This plan respects both: Reeves finishes his trilogy uninterrupted, and Pattinson steps into the DCU naturally after. No rush, no compromise-just storytelling excellence. Together, you’d create something iconic. 9/ The key is collaboration: Reeves builds Bruce emotionally. Gunn expands his world. This sets Batman up for World’s Finest, the Bat-Family, and Justice League films without losing what makes his character resonate. Unified, but organic. Let’s make it happen. This thread brings together: 1. Reeves’ trilogy’s evolution of Bruce Wayne into a mature Batman. 2. DCU integration: how it works in World’s Finest, Titans, and larger team-ups. 3. Fantastical elements: grounded origins that expand into larger storytelling. 4. Big-picture vision: Why this plan respects Reeves, fans, and the DCU. Think of Reeves’ trilogy and the DCU like Star Wars. Reeves’ Batman trilogy can be its own grounded masterpiece, like the Original Trilogy. It builds emotional depth and sets the stage for a larger universe. The DCU mirrors the Star Wars cinematic tapestry: diverse, interconnected stories (like Gotham, Metropolis, and Themyscira) coexisting without losing their individuality. Each project adds a unique chapter to the larger narrative, just like Star Wars built its galaxy over time. Reeves’ grounded world serves as the anchor, much like Luke’s story centered Star Wars. It’s intimate, emotional, and deeply human-while the DCU expands it, respecting its foundation and honoring its tone.

[@CorderoStephens]

This was beautifully written! Well done 👏🏾

[@ultron_sigma]

Except you forget that it ruins the vision to what matt reeves plan for his batman universe. Adding in the mix for superman and other heroes ruins that storytelling arc for pattinsons batman, that's why gunn and reeves had a meeting about batman.

[@OjukwuIsaac]

Comic book movies is based on ... comic books; it doesn't need to be realistic.

[@ultron_sigma]

Batman works both ways

[@artursisson]

"Daredevil teaming up with she hulk dindt feel out of place" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BlackStarrTurnsHeel]

I also want Pattinson Batman in the DCU with its tone maintained but Matt Reeves method of producing a film takes a very long time. At this point I think it's best for Pattinson's Batman sequel to either have a massive time skip which would be an extremely easier way to place that world into the DCU with little to no explanation, or scrap the film and start over with the Brave And The Bold since Matt Reeves is taking too long. Having two Batman films with different directions doesn't make sense.

[@Man.Of.Obscurity]

Matt Reeves isn’t taking too long to make the movie. He’s said before that the script is finished, and he’s ready to start production/shooting. James Gunn on the other hand says that “there’s no script” yet, and that’s why the movie has been delayed. Which one is lying? Think about it. Matt Reeves has been working on “The Batman” franchise since before James Gunn was put in charge of the DCU.

[@ultron_sigma]

​@@Man.Of.Obscurity I think Matt was trying to perfect the script since it's a sequel. But yeah, sometimes james gunn doesn't really know what's going outside of the DCU

[@genjie_darkstar125]

I can imagine deadpool in the future marvel projects where its more family friendly and everytime deadpool curses it beeps and deadpool says "disney is censoring me"

[@leonnight_]

Remember when bales batman was here, everybody loved those movies and everyone wanted his batman in the dceu i feel like both pattinson and bales batman are very similar in ways and i feel like they would just be missing out on an opportunity to not introduce him into the dcu.

[@thesmic1224]

If you want a different Batman for DCU, you’re asking for DCEU all over again.

[@QuincyJamesMusic]

The Batman was my favorite superhero movie outside of Deadpool and Wolverine released over the last few years.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I remember in 2022 reading a post that contained an interview from Matt Reeves saying that he has no plans to have Superman or other Justice League members to meet this iteration of Batman. So, it seems like The Batman else world is going to be The Dark Knight Trilogy part 2. Trying to force David Corenswet's Superman to meet Robert Pattinson's Batman is literally what we all tried to do in 2006 when Superman Returns came out, and that never happened. Why try to make the same mistake happen twice?

[@RichardDaguno]

This is gonna be a good idea because him and Corenswet has a same situation many fans doubt them but when they see in the bug screen they are amaze just like in Batman with Pattinson. I think Pattinson and Corenswet could be a great duo in DCU.

[@OMEGASODA]

I hope they make this happen I really want to see a dark / light movie mesh together

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

I'm glad plenty of other commenters have already pointed out the obvious that the tones, styles, and entire intentions of Reeves' and Gunns' visions are completely incompatible, and forcing them to merge would ruin both. It was completely undermine what made Pattinson's Batman great, just like WB ruined Cavill's Superman, and it would rob the DCU of the chance to get a true comic-accurate Batman.

[@MuthukrishnanBellie]

@@justthinkingoutloud2538 Well you could have Pattinson Batman slowly evolve into the Batman we know in the comics. And their visions merging would be perfect. Batman in the comics usually is grounded in his own stories but does end up working well in the jl. Batman year one, one of the most grounded takes on the character has a jl in his universe and he's a part of it too

[@HolyNamed]

@@MuthukrishnanBellie My idea was have the Pattinson movies take place a few years before super-man; universe wise. So his character would be older and have more advanced tech to co-exist with the supernatural and stuff, and having Robin would make more sense you know.

[@ultron_sigma]

​@HolyNamed then that would make the dcu take place around the late 2020s, or early 2030s, it doesn't work

[@Acacius0]

i always wanted the DCU batman to be different than Matt Reeves batman but after this video i am questioning my judgement.

[@idk-_-6745]

Watch HiTop Films - “The Batman should be the first DCU movie”, I guarantee you’ll have an open mind to it after his take.

[@sp0013]

at some point during THE BATMAN production there were leaks showing people dressed as Superman in some sort of "costume party" so somehow he already existed in that universe - I'm sure they can recycle or revisit those original ideas to merge both universes...

[@doc8013]

That was the crew at a party on set. It was like Halloween or something. They weren't plans for the movie.

[@ultron_sigma]

It was just some Halloween costume by the crew members. Plus dont be fooled by the name metropolis in the riddler year one comic and the batman novel, because fictional cities will exist, but not the characters themselves

[@isaiahbrown8929]

​@@doc8013Nah that's Superman Easter egg

[@sharkanenoa5928]

The DCU needs a Batman from the Batman the Brave and the Bold. A Batman who has already lived in a world filled with meta humans and his history with heroes all over. A Batman that has the BAT FAMILY. Robert Pattinson is not that Batman

[@MuthukrishnanBellie]

@@sharkanenoa5928 I don't think so. An already complete Batman is not gonna be as good as Pattinson in terms of storytelling or will feel right with cornswet. Just imagine the dynamic between cornswet and Pattinson. One is a godlike alien with endless optimism, more human than anyone and the other is a mere man in a bat costume beating the bs out of criminals because of a great traumatic event in his life. That's important

[@28Rockcuts]

Er wird sich erst zu diesem Batman entwickeln ich meine sein Batman hat erst eine zweijährige Karriere und spielt den Frischen neuen jungen Bruce Wayne

[@sharkanenoa5928]

@@MuthukrishnanBellie I can think of million different why it’s a terrible idea.

[@MuthukrishnanBellie]

@@sharkanenoa5928 Why

[@Itsmichaelcarroll]

Battinson would absolutely work in the DCU. The reason Batman is such a great superhero is that he starts out staying grounded in Gotham, but as Gotham's threats become more supernatural and sci-fi, so do his means of fighting such threats. Since Batman Part 2 will take place likely 2022, I have a strong theory that Reeves and Gunn are purposely delaying Part 2 so that Batman's next appearance (whether it is World Finest, Justice League, or Part 3) takes place 5+ years after parts 1&2 when Batman/Bruce Wayne/Gotham surely would have grown and become more suitable for a sci-fi world where aliens and monsters exist. Plus, if Batman adopts Dick Grayson in part 2, after five years pass, depending on how old Dick was in part 2, by 2027 he would be becoming Nightwing and leading the titans while Batman is having his own stories with Jason Todd, Barbra Gordon, Tim Drake, and eventually even Damion Wayne. With a 5 year time gap, Battinsion can (and will) transition from the grounded Batman he is in part 1 to the sci-fi Batman he should be for Justice League films.

[@cortchauvin7081]

I would like that Robert Pattinson's Batman universe is a mixture between realistic and fantasy

[@pricherman9281]

I didn't even know Pattinson wasn't in the DCU

[@Logan-yt1lj]

Well if this ever happens I’m hoping this Batman will start as this realistic tone then the Villains and Batman himself will evolve to more of a fantastical Batman I’m not saying I like it but I think that is the best possible outcome

[@ganumon1984]

I totally agree and I am with you on this! Not only that I’m tired of having solo Batman universes, but Battinson would be perfect with David Corenswet’s Superman and I don’t know if I can wait that long for The Batman Part II to come out. Plus, I wouldn’t be flexible seeing two new Batman actors competing with each other, including Robert Pattinson’s iteration. Just like with Charlie Cox’s Daredevil, he appeared in some MCU projects, including No Way Home. If Matt Reeves decides to bring Battinson into the main DCU, even though the She-Hulk series ruined Daredevil, he should take notes from Marvel regarding how he would properly integrate Battinson into the new DC continuity.

[@WilliamLamont82]

This is a great idea and I am tired of people pretending that it's not......Just have The Batman take place years before the events of Superman.....Problem solved.

[@HolyNamed]

Wait, you actually just cooked... it would make sense because in those years, Pattinson could have more advanced tech and intelligence to co-exist with a super-hero/villian world, and the Batman having Robin would make more sense since batman is older. And I love Pattinson Batman so I really want to see him in a more cinematic universe

[@Jasonwithadot]

then Batman would ahve to be older and James Gunn stated that Batman will have the same age as Superman

[@ultron_sigma]

Wrong, an older batman with a younger superman doesn't work. The Batman universe remains as an elseworlds while the DCU has their own batman that exists with superman. Problem solved. So move on and let it go

[@Mohit_Yadav168]

​​@@ultron_sigmaThe Brave and The Bold would still hv an older Batman (at least in early 40s something) while Supes is still young, isn't it the same thing..?

[@BlueinAeternum]

​@@ultron_sigma Tell that to James Gunn, whose plan is literally to have an older Batman who's already established a family 😂

[@fidker]

Pattinson Batman fits the DCU but the DCU doesn't fit Matt Reeves's Gotham

[@Themansnigel]

i honestly think if they could mesh the fantastical with the grounded narrative and still have the characters that are fantastical there

[@MagentaPro111]

I’d say Matt reeves Gotham is actually probs the most comic accurate we’ve gotten, I mean Gotham is supposed to have the tone Matt reeves gave it

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

You obviously haven't read a single comic book

[@andrescarnederes2295]

Sooooo......just like in the comics?

[@zachgordon99]

Wrong and here’s why 1/ Matt Reeves & James Gunn, here’s why Robert Pattinson’s Batman should evolve into the DCU and how it could work. This isn’t just about “fitting him in”-it’s about using Reeves’ trilogy to create a unified Batman arc that feels natural, respects fans, and expands the DCU. 2/ Reeves’ trilogy perfectly grounds Bruce Wayne: from raw vengeance (Part I) to refined protector (Part II) and eventual mentor (Part III). Each film develops Bruce emotionally and tactically. By Part III, he’s seasoned, prepared for larger responsibilities beyond Gotham. • In Part II, Bruce refines his methods with villains like Hush, Penguin, and Mr. Freeze, exploring themes of trust, control, and vulnerability. • In Part III, Bruce faces a threat like the Court of Owls, and potentially meets Damian Wayne. This deepens his emotional arc, showing him as a father figure and mature leader. 3/ After Reeves’ trilogy, Pattinson’s Batman transitions perfectly into the DCU. Imagine his gritty detective style clashing with Corenswet’s hopeful Superman in World’s Finest. Their dynamic would feel fresh, contrasting methods but building mutual respect. • Batman represents control, strategy, and pragmatism. • Superman embodies optimism, power, and compassion. • Their relationship would evolve naturally, with each challenging the other’s worldview. 4/ Fantastical elements? They can work-and Reeves’ grounded tone makes them more compelling. • Clayface (already shown in Creature Commandos) starts as a biotech tragedy: an actor experimenting with cutting-edge prosthetics who becomes something more monstrous. • Mr. Freeze: A cryotech scientist driven by love, not spectacle, whose tech could plausibly exist in Reeves’ world. • Poison Ivy: A modern eco-terrorist using plant-based biochem, not magic, but still deadly and morally complex. • These characters evolve naturally from Reeves’ world, expanding into the larger DCU without feeling forced. 5/ The DCU timeline builds on this perfectly: • World’s Finest introduces Batman and Superman’s partnership, blending Gotham’s grounded tone with Superman’s hopeful heroics. • Titans form later, using Batman as a key mentor figure. Dick Grayson could appear after Reeves’ trilogy, bridging to Damian Wayne and building the Bat-Family over time. • Villains like Lex Luthor or Brainiac could bring Gotham and Metropolis together organically in larger Justice League stories. 6/ Reeves and Gunn’s visions complement each other: • Reeves’ trilogy creates the emotional foundation, grounding Bruce in realism while giving him room to grow. • Gunn’s DCU expands that foundation, allowing Batman to step into larger team-ups and cosmic-level threats without losing his core identity. This collaboration would create a balanced DCU: grounded yet limitless, personal yet epic. 7/ The DCU has already started integrating unique tones (Creature Commandos, Superman: Legacy), but Reeves’ Batman could serve as the “realism anchor” of this universe. Gotham’s grounded storytelling becomes the perfect foil to Metropolis’ idealism or Themyscira’s mythology. 8/ Fans love Reeves’ work, but they also want a unified DCU. This plan respects both: Reeves finishes his trilogy uninterrupted, and Pattinson steps into the DCU naturally after. No rush, no compromise-just storytelling excellence. Together, you’d create something iconic. 9/ The key is collaboration: Reeves builds Bruce emotionally. Gunn expands his world. This sets Batman up for World’s Finest, the Bat-Family, and Justice League films without losing what makes his character resonate. Unified, but organic. Let’s make it happen. This thread brings together: 1. Reeves’ trilogy’s evolution of Bruce Wayne into a mature Batman. 2. DCU integration: how it works in World’s Finest, Titans, and larger team-ups. 3. Fantastical elements: grounded origins that expand into larger storytelling. 4. Big-picture vision: Why this plan respects Reeves, fans, and the DCU. Think of Reeves’ trilogy and the DCU like Star Wars. Reeves’ Batman trilogy can be its own grounded masterpiece, like the Original Trilogy. It builds emotional depth and sets the stage for a larger universe. The DCU mirrors the Star Wars cinematic tapestry: diverse, interconnected stories (like Gotham, Metropolis, and Themyscira) coexisting without losing their individuality. Each project adds a unique chapter to the larger narrative, just like Star Wars built its galaxy over time. Reeves’ grounded world serves as the anchor, much like Luke’s story centered Star Wars. It’s intimate, emotional, and deeply human-while the DCU expands it, respecting its foundation and honoring its tone.

[@RichardDaguno]

I think James Gunn has a secret plan to put Pattinson in DCU because Batman Brave and the Bold in frozen for years.

[@vrag2004]

It makes sense

[@Lildoug_456]

There’s no reason to do any of that, people aren’t dumb they can handle having two Batmen at the same time.

[@knightartsproduction1916]

No the general audience might confuse between them as it is going to be a new universe there should not be an ongoing comparison​@@Lildoug_456

[@MuthukrishnanBellie]

People are not dumb. They are not geeks that spend hours learning what's canon and what's not. They will fs be confused@@Lildoug_456

[@marquisedreams8812]

@@Lildoug_456the problem is competition. Many are bound to compare and Pattinson has a big lead with his likability in his role. They’ll need a name as big or bigger to pull it off, which they always could.

[@r4pstar343]

No it should be its own thing..... Robert batman is way too grounded..... The DCE U Batman is the one that's going to be dealing with all the magic and the supernatural creatures, etc.. Damien, Wayne is damn near a teenager. Robert Batman doesn't have a kid. This wouldn't have to make a substantial timeskip

[@Timothy_-ve2zp]

I agree with this overall point. But Damian's supposed to be a child, he's 10.

[@kidsoulworld6879]

That means we’ll get two Batman’s and they’ll be the same villain used in both movies

[@r4pstar343]

@kidsoulworld6879 yes, but the villains will be vastly different in tone and setting

[@kidsoulworld6879]

@ tone doesn’t change confusion. And the setting is still Gotham 😭

[@r4pstar343]

@@kidsoulworld6879 Movie viewers are actually not that stupid.... Will there be confusion? Probably? But mass confusion, you might be pushing it, especially if they go out of their way to explain

[@tlap1508]

Nah, i dont like this. Reeves realistic Batman just doesnt fit more comics like fictional DCU universe. It would be just weird AF. I rly dont want to have Pattinson in DCU, i want it to be seperate.

[@Mr.Batmite_72]

Have these movies take place before the dcu like 10 years before

[@ajohndaeal-asad6731]

exactly

[@ajohndaeal-asad6731]

@@Mr.Batmite_72no that’s stupid

[@WilliamLamont82]

​@@ajohndaeal-asad6731no it's not.

[@TheblackguyTamakloe]

@@WilliamLamont82 it really is stupid

[@srivatsarao2817]

Maybe the reason why they’re making a Clayface movie first is to show that Matt Reeve’s batman has a fantastical side to it as well, which will make sense of Battinson being DCU canon and sharing the screen with Cornswet

[@Coconut_Prrson]

Matt Reeves DOESN'T want Reevesverse to be in the DCU. BaTB is gonna be a different take on the character. It's gonna have a batfamily and fantastical elements, both things that fans really want, but Reeves doesn't. Having two different batmen is the perfect solution for this. We can have the best of both worlds. You're also infantilizing fans a lot if you think having two batmen is confusing for audiences. I mean just a few years ago we had three different spider-man movie universes and nobody was confused. There's already been so many Batman films with different takes, nobody is gonna be confused as different Batman trilogies that's just a you problem. Let reeves keep his own vision. And let us have two different takes on Batman. Gotham's lore is so extensive you can easily just have two completely different takes with completely different vibes. Both can be different enough that nobody will be consfused at wich is wich unless you're someone's grandma

[@Lunapink93]

The biggest problem with trying to fit Reeves Batman into the DCU is the Batfamily. Gunn wants the Batfamily. Also A Titans movie is in the works, so Dick is probably going to be Nightwing.

[@ultron_sigma]

And batman would already have a kid which would not align well in the batman universe

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

I want The Batman movies to stay tonally consistent with exactly what Matt Reeves wants. If he ever wants him to exist in the DCU, that’s great. Doesn’t need to be at the same time period, barely needs to crossover.

[@FahadAliLHR]

Yes yes yes Battinson is a perfect contrast to David's Superman. BuT they should wait and see how superman performs before making it official

[@spectrexr1]

How is a Batman that can't beat Riddler's Twitter followers be in the same world with Superman and green lantern. With no advance tech . No advanced weapons or suits. And he can't fight that well. He too weak and grounded. That like bale being in the dceu

[@thelg8064]

Simple, Batmam 2 take place 4 or 5 yrs after the 1st one and our batman has more tech , experience and a robin

[@spectrexr1]

@thelg8064 it ain't simple cause he too realistic . It's like bale .he had advance tech but u put him in bvs or justice league and he would be dead . He not powerful enough. Have any batman besides Affleck in bvs when doomsday shot his heat vision and he dodged it they would all be dead . Maybe if the Batman from Batman brave and the bold is more powerful he could do it . But Pattinson too weak

[@spectrexr1]

@thelg8064 and 5 years def not long enough lol experience wise or tech wise to deal with metahumans. Because he doesn't have jack in the first Batman . And him having a robin is gonna he dumb . Live action who believes a kid gonna be beating up 200 pound dudes. It wasn't even believable in Batman forever

[@knightartsproduction1916]

​@@spectrexr1well affleck batman is a very experienced one pattinson is a year 2 batman they can say it is set years before superman legacy so he will become more experienced

[@e.n.cnetwork2647]

It's called evolving dude Batman is very well known for that

[@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer]

I agree. The number one reason is Roberts star power.

[@bigins8515]

This Batman is in his early years, and the next Batman movie is only gonna take place a few months after the first. Matt reeves doesn’t plan to do Batman movies with years apart of each other, cuz he’s building the character into the eventual “Batman” we know. So since the movies still take place in 2021-2022, we can have a team up movie in 2030 which would be year 10 Batman and have him fantastical cuz it’s been 10 years. Similar to how iron man had a simple machine suit but then 10 years later he had super complex nano tech suit. Also I know we saw Batman in creature commandos but keep in fact that the superman movie takes place in 2025 (probably). So that would mean Batman is in year 5 which by that point Batman has been through a lot

[@ProudINC109]

D*mb thing is that if they didn't merge Pattinson and Corrinswet since Casual Movie goers (which is more than actual DC fans & followers) will be confused why there are 2 Batman, 3 Jokers, & 2 Penguins. Also, people whether you will not like it or not, will compare them, and will compete with each other. Aren't you all tired with the Batfleck vs, Battinson and Ledger Joker vs Phoenix Joker? And another Batman cast, and universe again and it's simulteneouly exist? That's the D*mbest decision ever. Think guys! Think!!

[@doc8013]

Affleck was never embraced like Pattinson so that debate isn't very contentious. And while everyone loves both Phoenix and Ledger, they were playing almost two completely different characters so that debate never was very heated either. People generally accept both as great. I imagine this one could get bad, though, depending on how the execution goes.

[@thelg8064]

Casual movie enjoyer has watch spiderman no way home, Dr strange 2, spiderverse, spiderverse 2, flash, Wolverine V Deadpool. After all those movies they probably knew the concept of varients/multiverse, so have faith on them

[@HolyNamed]

wait why is "dumb" censored

[@doc8013]

@HolyNamed KZbin will delete your comments with the word sometimes.

[@ultron_sigma]

Pattisons batman and the dcu batman will be completely different. Plus more of the Fantastical batman villains like clayface. Poison ivy, killer croc, bane, and league of assassin's will be in the DCU where all gods and monsters exist, while the grounded characters like joker, penguin, two face, scarecrow, and black mask fits in the The Batman universe

[@sreeragnair4090]

Why don't they cast Pattinson and say it's a different Batman in a different universe. Can't they have same faces in different universe with similar past and similar stories but fantastical in DCU?

[@HolyNamed]

okay that would be kind of confusing, maybe very confusing but I see the vision, kind of.

[@hoodieworldwide]

This is the only good idea I’ve seen in these comments 🤔, people already understand the concept of multiverse

[@afroahmed3989]

If you think Robert Pattinson is gonna sign a " Till you're 90" contract, think again.

[@spunkymaniac9312]

Exactly, pattinson is not the kinda actor who put himself in an extended universe, he's an artsy actor who lean more towards indie movies , not big franchises

[@doc8013]

Pretty sure he's said he'll play Batman as long as the fans want him to. He loves it.

[@Richardmalone1717]

Crazy how they just said this movie isn't coming out until 2027 an everyday videos are getting uploaded about the movie , it's really great to see how many people are embracing the new DC. Really hope they get these movies out sooner then they saying

[@malachiwingate98]

0:29 OH NO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marrid-d8v]

adding a grounded Pattinson's Batman next to someone so bright as superman is a crime bro

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Its literally been done in the comics before and it works for that very same reason, their contrast COMPLIMENTS each other

[@wildo6832]

the only way i see it working is if batman as a character changes. seems like the first movie was moving for bruce, if he develops more of a playboy and fun personality he may be able to cross over.

[@AnuragLot]

Given the delay of The Batman 2, it feels like Warner Bros. is once again focusing on a cash grab. They've done this in the past, and it ultimately ruined previous films

[@blinndd]

I fucking love pattinson's batman, its literally my favorite live action batman. But the matt reeves writing grounded him so much that its even hard to imagine there is a superman in that universe. And i think if matt reeves change his writing style in batman 2 and make more si-fi its gonna be wired. The best bet is let matt reeves do his trilogy and sometime between batman 2 and 3 they release the brave and the bold

[@minivancoupe]

Thing is about Pattinson, i cant picture him being the end all be-all menacing & father figure to a grown Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, or father to a snarky damian wayne.

[@kissalasoruvudhukannu]

He can grow, bro if you didn't know...

[@Mohit_Yadav168]

He's a great actor, he can surely adapt if given the right script..!

[@muhddanish8311]

I support this #BattReevesForDCU

[@paulieboy6644]

If Barry Keoghan is the DCU’s Joker, I hope they fix his makeup. It looks so derivative of Heath Ledger’s, but robbed of any aesthetic value. He’s only been visible in deleted scenes, so it’s possible to change

[@BlackPrince24]

Gunn once he gets The Batman: Batman: I can't trust you Supes, you're too sussy amogus.

[@gbygby7by7by8nym8]

it’s not happening

[@doc8013]

I can't believe this still has to he said in 2025 but it was Snyder's idea to bring Batman in. Nobody had to convince him to make BvS or a shared universe, it was literally his idea to introduce Batman in the sequel and expand the world.

[@swapnilemu9518]

if you watChed creature commandos ep 6, then you should know that Gunn definitely doesn't want pattinson to play batman. The batman we saw in episode 6 is bulky and huge. Also, Dr Phosphorus became the underground god of gotham and ran the disco of Penguin. So, he definitely killed him already. So, Pattinson's Batman is never joining DCU.

[@bluesp6267]

IIRC, Gunn told the animators to keep the batman design as vague as possible so that they could have options for the design in the future

[@painguy_404]

Nah we need a new batman

[@RizzRoo-n3l]

I don't think bringing other batman and which leads to two batman at the same time doesn't sound good

[@shantanusims]

0:28 😂😂 comedy gold

[@Cybertron1256]

The dcau did Batman and Superman perfectly, Superman is fully fantastical but Batman is grounded, but when together it’s like a perfect balance, but I would want Pattinson in a justice league dark movie, it could be like some inception kinda movie with Batman Arkham city vibes and the perfect way to make Batman 2 fantastical is by having the court bring back Al ghoul with a magical lazeras pit it’s not too crazy, and it doesn’t break away from what reeves built

[@davidjones2102]

Regardless of what happens, this universe needs Superman and Batman. They are both the heart and soul of the Justice League.

[@jasonking3182]

Most of the gritty Batman stories that inspired The Batman took place in the DCU. I grew up reading grounded Batman stories in the 90s that didn’t really acknowledge the rest of the DC Universe outside of a brief mention of Metropolis. That’s the strength of comic book universes they can contain multiple styles and tones.

[@adobeuser3526]

You wanna bring Pattison’s Batman into the DC Superman universe? Just a left-field suggestion:
 Why not establishing Pattinson as the Batman from Earth 2, and have him play a different version of Batman and Bruce in Earth 1, which would be the new Superman’s DCU? That way we could have mirrored versions of Dick and Damian at different stages of their lives, and also have Batman fight Batman for Part III.

[@Terrorstar-gbp]

Penguin series is connected to pattinson batman movie right

[@devanshsrivastava3171]

Yes...

[@zdenalie]

thank you for making this video completely agree they should bring Robert back as batman

[@kissalasoruvudhukannu]

this right here... Is what i want so badly.... Pattinson in DCU.... take my money man.... Pls make that happen

[@N0t.Vincent.Charbonneau]

Nah i like Damian's character. He's so unique compared to other robins

[@BlackTGambit]

The 3rd Batman film could actually have the title brave and the bold but it’s Batman and Superman, Superman hears about this great detective that dresses like a bat, he needs help from him because of a mystery he just can grasp him and Batman do an adventure and at the end shake hands say “we should do this again” Superman flies away and Batman on his way home sees a child stealing the rims from his Batmobile *Boom* there’s our Robin. Post credit scene “5 years later” We see a criminal running and a teen wearing the signature Red/Green suit and black cape giving chase. He ducks into an alley looking back seeing that Robin has disappeared he thinks he lost him, as he turns back around he bumps into Batman. “Robin, you’re getting rusty” -Batman says “And your getting old” -Robin says They both look at the criminal and smile The End

[@thelg8064]

Nah, batman 3 should be a batman solo movie. A batmam and superman movie should be called "WORLDS FINEST"

[@youin24years]

Smile? You’re sus. That’s not Batman and Robin. 2024 really did y’all sumn.

[@accalls3845]

Gun announced batman and the bold which will be having Damian and as far as I know, Damian is batman's son. So the Mat's batman who is only in his second year of being batman can have a child make him work on his side at this interval of time.

[@Someoneyouusetokno]

Ppl forget that Batman was always a part timer in the justice league it can work and flash point and crisis happened so yeah they can definitely come up with something

[@theunfunnykidinyourclass1366]

Creature commandos basically ripped this to shreds

[@SpiderGuyy]

Robert Pattinson is a grounded Batman, a young and grounded Batman. And reeves specifically said he wanted to keep it that way. And having him with Superman or in a more fantastical setting would undermine future stories and his world wouldn’t be grounded anymore because it’s connected to that universe. For me I would want a more fantastical/less realistic story with more crazier villains.

[@benjaminvanhumlianmang1131]

I think the real final decision would be up to Matt Reaves as James Gunn seems to be opened to the idea of both a crossover or an elseworld.

[@blakeallen391]

After 10 years of multiverse films and the c shows using different actors for the same role and the same actor for different roles this “two different Batman’s “ won’t be confusing to most people

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

DC doesn’t have to “surpass Marvel”. They just need friendly competition and respect for one another. Then we get the best of both worlds when it comes to great comic book films.

[@Boricua_User146]

This is a terrible idea. The Batman is too grounded for a fantastical DCU, and the director doesn't want to be part of the DCU.

[@e.n.cnetwork2647]

You clearly aren't familiar with comics dude

[@Jackhimsaw]

Im curious, how dum do people think the general public really is. That they cannot seem to contemplate the thought of there being 2 different versions of a character going simultaneously

[@Man.Of.Obscurity]

I agree with you Jack It’s funny though, because when “The Batman” released… it was during the DCEU era… and at that point we had 3 different people playing Batman on the big screen: Robert Pattinson, Ben Affleck, and Michael Keaton. Shoot… even George Clooney returned for a bit 🤣 Not to mention… the DCEU originally planned to replace Ben Affleck with Michael Keaton, and we’d still have Rob as Matt Reeves’ Batman. And people were fine with that idea back then. It’s not new. There can be different versions of a character that all exist at the same time.

[@dxtc07]

Plus like he said merging 2 universes mid stream is gonna be a disaster just like the dceu

[@sharkanenoa5928]

And that's why you're not in charge of the DCU

[@TotallyLEGIT-z7d]

They should just put them together. Give Reeves full creative control of The Batman IP essentially. He could use all the help he can get, and The Batman is already knocking things out of the park. Its the wisest thing to do financially and creatively. Forcing these two universes together sound incredibly fun. I dont love how they did it with Daredevil, but st least we're getting a new season with the same showrunners.

[@idkbrosmth]

Do NOT give Reeves full creative control of the Batman IP 😭. He wants a grounded universe that never goes into supernatural, which means if he has full control, we'll never see characters like Man-Bat, Clayface, Killer Croc, etc

[@unhealthyclipz5756]

@idkbrosmthhe is literally making a clayface movie

[@therealmr.incredible3179]

@idkbrosmthWe’ve already ‘Seen’ DCU Clayface.

[@idkbrosmth]

@@unhealthyclipz5756 but that's a main canon project, it's not for Reeves' universe. He would never sign off on something like that if it was his universe

[@idkbrosmth]

@@therealmr.incredible3179 Not sure you understand. What I'm saying is, Matt Reeves wants a grounded universe, not a fantastical universe. The DCU Clayface movie is because James Gunn wants a fantastical universe, not Matt Reeves (Also Matt Reeves' universe isn't in the DCU, it's an elseworlds project. Which inherently means they both take place in 2 different universes). Matt Reeves has said this on countless occasions. So if James Gunn wants a fantastical universe and Matt Reeves wants a grounded universe, which one do you think should have full creative control over a universe which we (the fans) want to be fantastical?

[@Kiandre2002]

Gotham in the comics is colorful but dark , but it’s also has dark villains but you still have goofy characters like the joker and maybe even riddler and many more with colorful costumes. And it’s fantastical no realism dcu is a way to finally go full fantastical after many years after the first fantastical one in live action. The one before the 2000s.

[@bilalamrani1111]

I think robert pattinson's batman looks a lot like the laughing batman

[@MatthewK122]

James Gunn need quick introduction another Batman and development him as soon as David Superman

[@-_pi_-]

I think, that Matt reeves is actually wrong about this, batman, often stays on the grounded level, but also at times faces both, magical, or sci fi foes.

[@david91lvb]

I think they should just keep them seperate. If Pattinson's Batman is brought into the DCU then the tone of those movies will have to be changed to be a lot more fantastical like the Superman movies and that will take away from what made the first movie great. Batman has an interesting lineup of fantastical villains that they could use in the DCU version and they could also introduce villains we've already seen in Reeves' movies but they should just avoid making them the main villains if they already were in the Reeves' version, so not DCU Batman with the Riddler as the main villain

[@purplespectre]

I'm happy for them to go with different tones for each character, so that's not my problem. My problem is I just don't want Pattinson's Batman to be the DCU Batman. He absolutely cannot be. I want a Batman who has a full Bat-Family (Nightwing, Red Hood, Red Robin/Robin, Robin, Batgirls, Batwoman, Batwing, Ace the Bat-Hound, Jarro, etc.). We haven't seen the team done properly in live-action before and it would be a waste not to use this opportunity to do it. This would naturally require an older Batman. Not too old or anything, but definitely older than Pattinson's Batman. Additionally, Batman should be way bulkier. He needs to have HUGE muscles. Since they did the wise thing and gave Superman his trunks (he's incomplete without them), they NEED to give Batman his trunks too. Real fans would love this. Pattinson simply does not look the part. I also don't like the look that version of the Joker has. He's too bald when he should have hair. I love Pattinson's take on Batman and what Matt Reeves is cooking, The Batman was great and I look forward to see more, but that must never cross over into the DCU. It won't confuse anyone to have two separate Batmen at the same time. It won't. Give people more credit, they're not all clueless.

[@eanderson9599]

The CW was notorious for feeling cheap, nobody actually thinks it’s high quality stuff. Also, the daredevil example sucks cause the Matt we see in She-Hulk acts completely different than the Matt in Daredevil It can be done, but the examples given were ass

[@TyrellBlavk]

Pattison in the dcu ultimately means no brave and the bold and i would be pretty pissed if im robbed of finally getting a robin on the big screen

[@superheroesmadness135]

No one cares what you think cos Robert Pattison batman is perfect for the dcu 👍🏽

[@shahrukhahmed125]

I'm up for alan ritchson to play batman

[@illusion-x1d]

People literally miss the point of a shared cinematic universe when they say things like ‘the tones are too different’ or ‘the batman only had grounded villains’ for starters, the whole dynamic between characters in a shared universe is that characters that are completely different and their tones and feelings are so different that it’s so cool when the come together, look at the mcu, Iron man sharing a screen with a Norse god? It shouldn’t work but it does, and the Batman villains have only been grounded so far like the riddler and Penguin, who are pretty realistic characters even in the comics (pretty much) and it would be so cool if The Batman would have to start to take on more supernatural characters

[@Jasonwithadot]

at the start of the MCU, superheroes were a new thing, at the start of the DCU, superhoeroes have already existed for a long time, why are they not mentioned at all in The Batman?

[@illusion-x1d]

@ why mention them if they are already a established thing, it’s also something you really don’t have to worry about

[@Jasonwithadot]

@@illusion-x1d I meant in their respective fictional worlds, MCU world superheroes started to create, DCU world superheres were a thing already. Sorry if it was confusing

[@darkskinvince4380]

After this latest episode of creature commandos it’s virtually impossible and that’s ignoring the the time issue since the Batman takes place in 2022 and if the Superman movie is modern time period why does pattinsons Batman not already have a Robin or a batgirl by this point . But the main issue is maroni dies from dr phosphorus in the dcu not penguin . they’d have to retcon an entire show to do this crossover .

[@andrescarnederes2295]

"And people are going how in the world is Thor this norse Mythological god gonna be able to be in a scene with Tony Stark? How's that gonna work? And my answer was: Well, that's kind of the movie! That's kind of the whole idea-is to take these people that shouldn't be together and put them together!" - Kevin Feige And that's why the MCU worked :)

[@mikez9019]

The "grounded" nature isn't that big of a deal, that can expand. The main issue is his low tier fighting skills. Unless they expand on this in the future, there is no way that Battison would be able to hold his own against all these metahumans

[@Gumnam-rt1co]

They should comple The batman trilogy as soon as possible, then introduce new DCU batman.

[@BusterBarnes]

I'd rather it be someone else I don't see what's wrong with having 2 ngl.

[@pizzathehut1674]

He already said his Batman is diff universe

[@isaiahbrown8929]

Things change

[@Vokon]

"They Would avoid confusion, because the original plan was to have 2 live action batmen, having separate adventures, at the same time. This has never happened in movies before." So did we just forget about 'THE FLASH' coming out after 'THE BATMAN'? That didn't confused people AT ALL. General Audiences aren't stupid. They can differentiate 2 different Batmen.

[@Gamerz_Riot]

This NEW DCU is Going with Same Approach as ArrowVerse. {Different Universes, Different Stories, Different Characters (in CW Two Supermans and in new DCU two Batmans😐😐]

[@Cheez_Doodlezz]

Holy hell no no NOOOO

[@R1FAAAT]

I want them to be different

[@patricknguyen7530]

Another good example of something starting out fairly realistic but then going more fantastical is Batman: The Animated Series becoming the DCAU after Superman came about. Yes, Batman: TAS wasn’t that realistic considering it already had stuff like the Lazarus Pit, Clayface, and Freeze but the when the show started, the tone was more noir and art deco design but then transitioned that pretty well eventually to crossover with Superman while still somewhat maintaining the noir tone somewhat, granted not a fan of Joker’s redesign

[@YoSoyDannyBoy]

True you have points. However I’m sorry, I just want the Bat Family established already. And if we do The Brave and the Bold with Damien Wayne. We will have a Robin on screen again while potentially seeing other bat family members like Dick Grayson or Jason Todd on screen.