Why Pele is the most OVERRATED Footballer Ever

[@RaymarFootball]

Okay, maybe I was a bit wrong about Pele. Here's how I feel about him 3 years later kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipqWhWyGat13Y9U

[@Dybala-hv2ys]

Raymar Football hi

[@arturovenegas3835]

Raymar, which videos r planing to do in the future, can i give u some ideas???

[@arturovenegas3835]

Xavi Georgio look IMO, only pure career acheivements, i think is a either Maradona or Johan Cruyff, Maradona won a WC, he won 2 league titles with Napoli and a UEFA Cup, and also played for Barca. Johan Cruyff won 3 Champions League, but i dont count the Champions Leagues cause back than, teams didnt take it seroious as like right now, he won a title with Barca and won 3 Ballon D' Or. I cant say who was the best skill footballer because it was different back then as of now, but by career achievements, Maradona and Cruyff r my Top 2

[@arturovenegas3835]

Xavi Georgio But Pele never won the Ballon D Or cause he never played in Europs

[@arturovenegas3835]

Prince Malulu STFU, respect his opinion bro

[@PatragemsLtd]

Pele counts the goals he scored in his school competitions as well.

[@Ivan-jp9qc]

Waheed Shirzay Hahahaha

[@oz9680]

Lol

[@dworldinc2801]

lit 🔥

[@alexioelguapo]

Then add Messi's friendlies..tally to 1000?no?Then shut up lol

[@mulawizi9738]

Ikr😂😂

[@alexparana4642]

Its funny because those small clubs from Brazil smashed european clubs in the 60's, in that time all brazilian national team were playing in Brazil.

[@al.b7520]

Exactly

[@aaronkeane4914]

Alex-cap pr-BRASIL They didn’t. That’s just a straight up lie. Half his goals were against state teams, not the best teams in Brazil.

[@alexcla9445]

@@aaronkeane4914 Not true, he is the top scorer for the national team and he destroyed all brazilian top clubes: Corinthians (my club), Palmeiras, Flamengo, São Paulo, International, etc. He destroyed every single competition he was in, period.

[@aaronkeane4914]

Alex CLA Doesn’t stop the fact that his stats are padded against amateur teams

[@alexcla9445]

@@aaronkeane4914 Not really, he destroyed the best of the best, and most of the great players think he was goat. It's hard to compare different eras but he is definitely up there. It's not his fault if he was better than everyone else of his era.

[@tgren201]

Raymar: this video will not disrespect pele in anyway Also raymar: PAY LAY

[@mehedihasansiam2234]

😂😂

[@BruceLeroyUK]

🤣🤣

[@KG-qk2sq]

yeet underrated comment 😂😂

[@davide7046]

😂😂

[@Manny-lx6xb]

yeet 😂😂😂

[@brunoalmeidaito4616]

As a Brazilian, I can say that I never heard a single soul here saying that Jairzinho, Garrincha or Zizinho are greater than Pelé.

[@Luigi-hn1hu]

I have heard europeans and americans atributing Jairzinho as the star of the 1970 squad because he scored in every match, I never heard any brazilian soul say such a thing, Garrincha wasn't better than Pelé, he was more spetacular and fun to watch, but not better.

[@serantos]

Yes. What kind of brazilian this guy talked? kkkkkkkkkkkk

[@FarawayBrawlHacks]

@@Luigi-hn1hu Arguably the same can be said about R9 vs R10

[@heliogabrieldacunhabarroso5541]

Rt

[@BingQiLing.]

Thats because youre brazilian

[@anderssonarad2552]

this video was sponsored by Maradona

[@mkj1233]

AnderssonArad too True best comment of the whole comment section 😂😂😂

[@ivangray1196]

AnderssonArad and this comment was sponsored by pele.

[@LimousineDribble]

I agree with the conclusion but not necessarily the arguments. A better argument would be that he never played the tough super competitive European football and never won the champions league which is the pinnacle of football these days. I mean seriously if you guys watch European football the world cup games would seem boring and monotonous. Second, defenders are much fitter now and teams have the luxury to observe players video and develop strategy to handle them in the game. That didn't exist during Peles time. To me Messi is the greatest footballer of all time and Pele doesn't even come close. I would put Maradona, Zidane and Cristiano Ronaldo ahead of him.

[@ivangray1196]

Erika Aleksandra btw I like your style to like your own comment.

[@ivangray1196]

Erika Aleksandra can you tell me what the fucking species are you cause you look a fucking man but you have name of a girl. Are you a fucking new breed.

[@Redley95]

He scored two goals in the 1958's World Cup final but the thing is he was just 17 years old .

[@thedictationofallah]

but the thing is he faced swedish scrubs

[@Redley95]

@@thedictationofallah Swedish scrubs who got into the World Cup final , no france , no Argentina , no Germany , no Italy but the swedish scrubs .

[@thedictationofallah]

@@Redley95 defending scrubs

[@thedictationofallah]

@@Redley95 alos france, argentina where trash then

[@Redley95]

@@thedictationofallah "alos" ? And why they were bad back then ? People only started being good at soccer when ?

[@mihirrao24]

this dude really said "only" 3 world cups as if that's normal...

[@christophersalinas2722]

Mustafi has won a World Cup. Messi and Ronaldo have not Mustafi>>>

[@hellowalkman4506]

@@christophersalinas2722 STFU with this BS analogy.

[@yaboi_wavy4776]

@@hellowalkman4506 its a joke

[@rhysherbert6852]

@@hellowalkman4506 LOL

[@tambemacho4891]

Raymar lacks of knowledge on Pele's career and Raymar truly believed the lies about Pelé that argentinians an other rivals made during time, Raymar's really missed the goal on this video, its like suddenly he had none knowledge on football science when mentioning Pelé, but he has some good videos though

[@jsgv7935]

Rest in peace, Pelé. You will always be remembered as an icon in the beautiful game ❤

[@BalboaBaggins]

Overrated too, just like the guy who uses his hands (Maradona).

[@goaskyourmomformoreattenti2272]

​@@BalboaBagginsfor one once please act like an adult and be mature, be more respectful, ain't your parent teach you anything about respect? Grow up.

[@aasstudios1734]

@@BalboaBaggins shut up have respect

[@bluegameryt17]

@@goaskyourmomformoreattenti2272 fr the nerve of this 7 year old kid how dare he mock and disrespect two legends of football

[@BalboaBaggins]

haha look at the insulted angry incels. Hahaha

[@RadioBlastwave]

saying Pelé is an overrated player by today's standards is like saying Alexander the Great is an overrated warlord because now there's Apache choppers and machineguns

[@saifulamin7013]

I think what he meant is, today's generation cannot be compare to pele's generation.

[@johnduncan5117]

@@saifulamin7013 no. He said that the players of Pele's era were not as good as today's. Which is simply untrue. The conditions they played in were poorer (bad pitches, heavy balls, heavy kit, much lower fitness levels due to less sports science development). But the technical, tactical and creative abilities of players were at least on a level with today if not better. Defenders of Pele's era were butchers and the forwards not protected like today's players. His whole video is inane shit.

[@louismorrison7207]

No, it’s the fact that his goal stats have been hugely inflated

[@lionemessi]

this is soooo acurate

[@GabrielBarbosa-ns1xv]

@@louismorrison7207 Pele almost never played against big European teams in official matches, but they made a lot of friendly matches against them, because of money. So not counting his goals in friendlies are basically saying that his goals against some of the beast teams in the world doesnt count.

[@kyozaki9838]

You've got to change your video music mate, I feel I'm watching a documentary about the Third Reich.

[@tomallison2492]

KYOZAKI that’s quality that mate 😂

[@truenoae8689]

Hahahahhaa

[@saulreyna72]

Felt like I was watching the pirates of the Caribbean

[@krystofkristof1001]

I love this music with this content

[@nalaprodd]

i like the music and idk what your talking about

[@guero_k]

Nobody: Raymar: Paylay

[@williammeincke4696]

Güero Rivera true😂

[@tofunmii5106]

I read that as he said it 🤣🤣🤣

[@ChagasDcosta]

'Payday'😂

[@willriley994]

How do you his name then?

[@tofunmii5106]

Will Riley not paylay 🤣🤣

[@yadatada5556]

"I am not trying to disrespect Pele" *Proceeds to explain how Pele winning 3 world cups is nothing*

[@xqvs0988]

how is that disrepsctulg bro hes just mentioning misunderstood data because most fans say hes the greatest because he won 3 world cups

[@luiscardenas2899]

@@xqvs0988 he played against Beck in Germany. The greatest full back of all time and made him look like a bum. He made Eusabio made him look bad

[@mr.webfixer8471]

​@Bebeto_7 he played in a era where top 5 leagues was better and backyard goals counted

[@natef1212]

i bet hes a messi fan who thinks its unbelievable and alien-like that messi won 1

[@ManuelPersona24]

​@Yo D Sure, but Raymar is a gar*age person

[@timothyodeyale6565]

When people say: "Oh pele wouldnt compete with ronaldo rn in this era" They convieniently forget to say that he wouldve had the same training, and probably work ethic, so he trully wouldve been goated.

[@azlastor]

Even not considering that... He would have over 100 penalties like Messi and Ronaldo too... way softer football in general with the referee eager to award free kicks for things that don't even amount to a tackle... He could flop like most top flight footballers of today to get calls and get the call half the time and also a nice field, equipment and ball to play with consistency. Offside was harsher back then since you where deemed offside if in line with the defender, that only changed in 1990. The yellow card was introduced in 1970 so not so egregious fouls could add up to an ejection... and in that way reduce rough play. it's just silly trying to compare and conclude that just because Pele stats are padded (which they are... brazil football has some easy matches in the calendar) he is overrated... you can't pretend that modern football penalty takers don't have their stats padded. (Messi has 99/128, Ronaldo 139/166 penalties scored/taken which is just silly) and that's penalties alone... ignoring all of this in the making of this video is just whatever... can't be taken seriously.

[@balajay8921]

That’s a lot of assumptions there. You could say every one of Ronaldo’s teammates ever would’ve had the same training too. But they were never as good as him. Even work ethic, Ronaldo is truly one of a kind…

[@timothyodeyale6565]

@@balajay8921 Yes his work ethic is great, i dont deny that, but to say a pro footballer wouldnt get training? Thats shortsighted, and its not a very far fetched assumption.

[@timothyodeyale6565]

@@azlastor He would still be goated, idk what to say..

[@obadguy2468]

He wouldn't have been as successful lol. He played in a much easier era with lower competition levelm simple. What he did against lesser competition, Messi and CR7 are currently doing against better competition and athleticism. You bring Pele to our era and his numbers and achievements will undoubtedly take a massive dive.

[@basirutambadou2175]

Imagine in the next 80 years when our grandchildren will start saying that Messi or Ronaldo aren’t the greatest of all time in football and start making videos finding faults in messi and Ronaldo’s career

[@jefff9526]

Just a reality check

[@samvu4133]

Well then in our granchildren's time they should have players that have broken Messi and Ronaldo's records, otherwise there would be no claim to that. The problem claiming "best footballer of all time" is that people think it applies to the future, but it doesn't. "Of all time" means "up until now". Thus, Pele WAS the greatest player of all time, but that changes. Right now it's Messi.

[@maharshirathod7781]

@@samvu4133 messi AND Ronaldo

[@samvu4133]

Maharshi Rathod bro what’s the point of having a name like “greatest of all time” if there’s more than one at a time? Messi is ever so slightly better than Ronaldo.

[@maharshirathod7781]

@@samvu4133 i dont wanna debate or else it will go on for decades but ultimately Ronaldo is better than Messi tho

[@longshot7132]

Pele: I am the most overrated player ever Modric: hold my ballon dor

[@sumi8388]

Came to watch this pele video after Modrics controversial ballon d'or

[@actualman908]

Which happened a year ago

[@sjowthwaite8145]

Modric only scored 7 or 6 goals in 2017 and even dybala scored 26 goals

[@sjowthwaite8145]

2017 2018 season

[@stephenkallestad5]

Soooooooo true

[@BaumgratzE]

Everything we see in football today Pelé did first, absolute legend that can't be matched. Pelé played in a time where football wasn't as big it is today and he made the world cherish for him, football got a spike in popularity during the 60's and it's mostly because of him. Measuring skills is hard, he might not be the best of all time but he is the greatest

[@chalkandcheese1868]

Not really, by far the most important factor in spreading the popularity of football was satellite television, and the world didn't start in 1958, there were plenty of great players before Pele.

[@progkast]

@@chalkandcheese1868 The most important factor in spreading the popularity of football was certainly NOT satellite television... although satellite television existed in the early 60s. Pelé was perhaps the greatest ambassador for soccer and when the U.S. started the NASL league, Pelé was their ambassador and played for the New York Cosmos. Soccer/football experienced a HUGE upsurge in the U.S. and Pelé, along with Kyle Rote Jr., Laurie Calloway, and other international stars made soccer more popular than ever in the U.S. This sort of popularity never came again until several years after the 1994 WC. Nothing to do with satellite television... and it´s popularity world wide superceded the popularity of Satellite TV. I am guessing that you weren´t born till after all this occurred.

[@chalkandcheese1868]

@@progkast If you think the most important factor in spreading the popularity of soccer was not television you're insane. The 1970 World Cup was the first to be televised in colour, and that brought it to life for many viewers around the world, and the big European club matches started to be televised around the world as well, all vital factors in spreading the gospel. Pele was certainly the first global ambassador for the game, but he was not responsible for the spread in popularity of the game. As far as being too young, I remember watching the 1978 World Cup mate, and I'm not even much of a soccer fan. Anyway RIP the king of soccer Pele.

[@escanor915]

@@progkast You are clearly delusional and stop over hyping pele all the time u Brazilians make everything seem like football has achieved everything because of pele

[@FourFour-ee1tf]

It makes him revolutionary but it stops there in reality better will always come stop nostalgia monkeying

[@aashishtodankar4590]

100 YEARS LATER GUYS LIKE HIM WILL SAY MESSI AND RONALDO ARE OVERRATED 🤣

[@TermiNation_45669.]

100 years, you're being too generous, I give it 50 years.

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

Your comment deserves 1 million likes. It perfectly describes the ridiculousness of this video. This guy says „the quality then wasn't good"... I've never heard such a nonsense. I bet countless delusional experts in 50 years will go "Messi's dribbling was pretty slow and overrated🎻🎶". Editor doesn't understand that life is a constantly evolving process and down playing football's past is a pile of b.s. coz he's simply not able the see the whole football elephant. Another thing about Pelé's Greatness he doesn't even understand: After so many years since Pelé's retirement and despite rare footages he's still talking about him. This is how legends show clueless doubters the finger. 😎👍🏿

[@fluteisland]

see if anyone can match Ronaldo and Messi numbers first NO ONE will match these numbers in football EVER bc of the competition = Ronaldo and Messi goats forever

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

Flute Island Because no one's gonna match their numbers they are Goats forever? That changes everything... You obviously can look into the future: So when will there be boots with rocket propulsion? See I really love Messi as a player and person, I watch his highlights over and over again, but that's no reason to quit common sense.

[@ankitkumar-qe4zh]

@@fluteisland blind fanboi spotted. when pele used to play people used to say there will be no one better than him than maradona came and people started saying he is the greatest and no one will overtake him than messi ronaldo came but i can bet within 30 years someone will become greater than these 2

[@ronaldkigen3674]

Guys he is talking about paylay Not our pele. I get it now Like video

[@rehobothbitege4560]

You just made my day man.

[@monito3538]

Your funny 😂

[@julioalavarado9969]

Nigga gmfu🤣😭

[@axiel4519]

Lol

[@assamahmad5328]

Lol

[@Cloudy-dr8dg]

Man won 3 World cups and gets called paylay by some American saying he's overrated

[@wwefuk7719]

Best comment.

[@kyrbador]

He won 2 world cups.

[@ellismorley3374]

@@kyrbador 3

[@ellismorley3374]

@@kyrbador its not google it 😂

[@kyrbador]

@@ellismorley3374 he was injured and he didn't even play a single minute.

[@paulroberts5393]

He was never overrated IMO. A massive talent in a great side. So great to watch the 1970 Brazil team.

[@ballistic2513]

hello sir, great to hear from someone your age that still follows the sport. as someone young, i would like you to give me some advice for life in general. thanks

[@JackFleming-f9p]

What are the 1970s World Cup Pele was outshined by his teammate

[@SurfingInternet]

​@@JackFleming-f9page and injury have entered the chat and also , defenders were way more rough back then , haaland would get demolished so try playing in those eras and 1970s were the growth of very strong defenders but did he still win ? And do remember the guy commenting said 1970 whole squad , wake up, stop the disrespect and in this , it's the same situation as son , so what if it's they're worst season? They didn't perform as well as people thought they were but it's just 1 season or competition , like son , Pele also had an mild injury turned more serious.

[@WhoAreYou905]

@@SurfingInternethaaland is 6’5 200+, he is one of the most physical players in history itself. Of course he’s destroyed van dijk, Ruben Dias, Sergio Ramos, etc. Haaland plays against 6’4 centerbacks that are nearly strong as heavyweights. Pele on the other hand is what, 5’10, probably 150-160 pounds back in his day and played against plumbers under 6 foot.

[@SurfingInternet]

@WhoAreYou905 "nearly as strong as heavyweights" yeah no my ass could disagree , only zlatan is at that level of raw strength-. Also plumbers? I don't see bobby Moore, who although short , was comparable to Beckenbauer and height is a problem you say? Why don't you get the tallest cb of all time , a Hungarian one that played in the 60s who was 1.5 inches taller than Peter Crouch himself to say about it. Also fouls?? That didn't even exist. A ramos red card in the current era would equivalate to a warning or just barely a yellow in that era and also you haven't watched anything about pele have you?? Every team targeted pele back then to injure him , and also r9 has said that if he tried to play in Pele's era , his knees would be blown off , not because of self injuries , but because of defenders. Let that sink in.

[@天国に登る]

hes only overrated if u put him up against the current era, for his era he was indeed the very best

[@siddhantjoshi9261]

Bro watch the full video and reply

[@Tunde....Ballack]

lol, isn't that the thing though, he was one of the best of his era, but when you call him the greatest of all time, you are including him against the modern era. Which is where the overrated is stemming from. He is the most iconic of all time, because he was revolutionary in different ways.

[@emmanuel8487]

I disagree

[@ifeelsuperior8821]

Tunde Ballack most iconic is Cruyff

[@lokismig]

@@Tunde....Ballack But it is that those of the modern era are the ones that are completely overrated. Any current player is worth NOTHING when compared to the greats.

[@tofunmii5106]

Who’s watching the video and scrolling through the comments ☕️

[@smlyoshiplaysvidiogames6113]

Me

[@dannyingram5744]

What a twat

[@uptimusprime740]

Do that mean?

[@moritzbergmann3893]

Shut up

[@tofunmii5106]

Moritz Bergmann why did u like your own comment

[@thecallawaykid1763]

What you are forgetting the laws of the game were less strict. I mean Pele used to have lumps kicked out of him. 1970 World Cup was brutal!

[@theviniso]

Not to mention the heavier ball and boots.

[@quitrap8289]

yes but actually even if the rules where not strict people where not aggressive only once or twice did he get hit seriusly and people did not know how to defend plus only few players where aggressive pele is really overated

[@richardray2680]

@@quitrap8289 These strict rules are the ones that enable players like Messi and Ronaldo to play the way they do. No back tackles! Just that alone gives Messi the freedom to run without thinking about what's behind him. No back pass to goalkeeper enables teams like Barcelona to pressure teams and win the ball back quickly which leads to many of the goals Messi and others have scored. More caution and strict rules when jumping for ball gives Ronaldo an advantage in corners and free kicks when jumping to head balls. More strict rules on sliding tackles and just tackling in general means both Messi and Ronaldo and other stars in this generation are more protected and defenders more cautious. Pele played without these rules and managed not just to shine but change the way the game was being played. Not Overrated at all.

[@chrisbennett606]

Ra exactly Facts Great points

[@neoniohnn]

Was it though

[@redplague13]

Consider the disadvantages Pele faced then: The ball was different, less refined material, therefore more difficult to control, dribble, shoot, etc. The cleats were heavier. The pitch was less likely to be in tip top condition. Training, nutrition and conditioning were inferior. So imagine how much better Pele would be today?

[@tilted7566]

As much as I agree, you also have to mentioned than back then offside wasn’t a thing or that some leagues were amateur

[@Sikesaucey]

@@tilted7566Offside was invented in 1863 lmao

[@tilted7566]

@@Sikesaucey yes, my bad. It was the red cards and yellow cards that were invented after the 60’s and I got confused

[@alexman8800]

And no substitution. Play the full 90 minutes each time and every time. A defender can deliberately kicked Pele and not get a red card.

[@filipe_paixao]

Those factors affected all players. (Including defenders). The number of players today is VASTLY bigger than that era. An average professional in this era is closer to Ronaldo and Messi... than 2 stars players in the old era were

[@LoveBagpipes]

There is a reason why younger generations always acknowlege those that went before...if he was in the modern era, he would have had the the adventages if modern players, diet, ball tech, pitch quality, modern training schemes, etc

[@justmetal227]

LoveBagpipes totally agree

[@MT-oo5zc]

I don't deny that, but his opponents didnt have benefits like that as well. If he were to play against a mediocre defence or team nowadays, with everybody having the latest 'technology' he still wouldn't perform that good people think he would. The defending tactics have improved drastically after he retired as a player, e.g. the invention of the back foor. Additionally, and that goes for everything related and based in progress, things develop with time. There is no way you could expect a defender back in Pele's era to have those qualities a defender nowadays has. It would be way more harder to dribble past the defence if you try it nowadays.

[@LoveBagpipes]

@@MT-oo5zc everyone's standards would have been improved through better diet, technology, etc defenders as well as his

[@uchennagbulie5543]

@@MT-oo5zc do you realise that it was much harder to play football in that era than it is today. You had defenders who would kick the hell out of you and not get cautioned. Do you also know that Brazilian football was way better than European football at that time also. I am in my late 30's played football as a kid. The ball I played with would cause bruises to any player in the modern era, and Pele played with worse during his time. Today you have meds that make the players stronger, better meals, better everything. Also just in case you don't know, today the best players get better protection from the refs than they did back in the day. If Pele was still able to play well despite all of these why do you think he won't be able to do so now. Look at the video, his leg work using a horrible ball was superb, close control on point. I rest my case

[@redpandagency]

robizzlor Pelé had more skills than both for sure. Go watch his videos and you will see

[@KillShot-ln6mn]

I'm imagining 60 years from now Messi & Ronaldo too will have videos like this made about them from teenagers of that time 😂😂😂

[@refl1x362]

Haha

[@mdmoniruzzaman7309]

But they will have the exact evidence Not some made up Training goal stats😂

[@HnlWorld]

@@mdmoniruzzaman7309 in 60 years this evidence will be training golas just like you are saying is for pele

[@minhbui-my9gw]

@@HnlWorld how? Today technology won't allow that shit

[@unbeso8858]

@@HnlWorld training goals?? In the video it showed Pele playing against other teams not training goals tho

[@MeherabadMoments]

Just scoring a hat-trick in the '58 World Cup semis and two goals in the final as a 17 year old would make him one of the best players ever.

[@Kivikesku]

Also he is the top scorer for the Brazilian national team ever. That should count as something.

[@ibib0086]

u do realize that standards were much lower then right? if he played today he would be probably slightly above average

[@sigaming7544]

Insert mbappe better than pele

[@danielkrome2333]

Exactly...KING PELE

[@danielkrome2333]

@@ibib0086 Messi in Pelés time wouldn't hang...retired too quick.... Heavier ball and shoes, less technology, horrible fields, less yellow cards, play rougher, etccx

[@j-lon3564]

One thing I truly love is that people always disconsider all of the non-official goals Pelé had by saying they were against low-level teams, but multiple times Pelé scored against football giants such as Real Madrid, Benfica, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, etc. most of the times completely blowing them out. If you were to research a bit about football at the time, clubs sometimes preferred to play friendlies overseas than playing in their local tournaments as they were far more beneficial financially, thus resulting in that absurd amount of non-official goals scored

[@chingis1154]

Yes, but it doesn't change that his goals are maybe smaller than 1.2k. If today's goats play against low levels they get +30% more goals

[@charliewade4875]

*Kids in 2052* : Messi is sooo overrated. Defenders was not as good as defenders today,.and he surrounded by the best players in that era both national and club team.

[@marcossidoruk8033]

Those clubs are top nowadays but in those times they weren't. And still, they are unofficial matches, no stakes whatsoever, so anyhow it isn't as impressive as the Messi or CR7 records.

[@sindrehemstaddrum4599]

@@marcossidoruk8033 didnt Madrid win 5 ucls in a row in the 50s

[@marcossidoruk8033]

@@sindrehemstaddrum4599 Probably, and? How is that relevant or contradictory to what I said?

[@arlofs]

Pele, Garrincha, Jairzinho, Maradona and Beckenbauer would be freaking machines on the field with today’s training, and quality shoes, balls and turf.

[@jensmatthewdawson6997]

True

[@MustafaMuhammed1981]

100% 👍

[@jakkaxn5513]

Everyone forgot gerd muller

[@jensmatthewdawson6997]

@@jakkaxn5513 you mean Van Basten I mean if you compare what Van Basten won against what Gerd Muller won, Van Basten wins way more.

[@jakkaxn5513]

@@jensmatthewdawson6997 wht gerd muller won 2 ballon dor and he scored in worldcup final and euro final then he scored in 2 champions league final too. Only Messi has scored more goals in a calendar year than him . Most of the German and Bayern players regarding him as a greatest of all time

[@arseniocalderon8090]

Two countries stopped a war for a day to watch Pelé playing, that's how great he was!!!

[@rxzileu-6645]

Thats not how gratness works..

[@egbeadaka9122]

Very correct! Nigeria - Biafra war.

[@LeeRenthlei]

That was a myth. Pele never stopped a war.

[@arseniocalderon8090]

You're a Long Way From Starbucks Homie!! Research Just a Little More!!

[@kellyoku]

Bless you

[@alexmagana5388]

“You can’t say they’re good because you didn’t watch them” “These defenders are trash even though I didn’t watch them”

[@hellowalkman4506]

This video is just one contradiction after another.

[@dominickvasquez7625]

I love raymars videos but this video was really dumb and now there's kids calling pele a fraud and oVerRaTed

[@jamesjohn4938]

@@hellowalkman4506 the difference is knowing Raymar he actually did look back at more than enough clips and analysed what defenders were like back in those days..........what he's criticizing is people who have never watched Pele at all or have only seen a few clips or some 10 minute video on KZbin and use that to determine that Pele is the GOAT, those kind of people wouldn't have analysed anything at all. Raymar might not have watched Pele live but he does make the effort to analyse the past, so no he's not contradicting himself

[@Adam-hy1du]

@@jamesjohn4938 do 5 minutes of research and you can’t debunk all of this idiots “points” pele does have the most goals in history fifa counts his friendly goals as official goals because of the limited games could be played back then and the whole of the Brazilian national team mostly played in Brazil and all for diffrent teams except I think maybe 3-4 who played on santos with him this account is a joke and anybody who disrespects pele is a joke to football

[@Nanaivko]

Pele is overrated. He was good but not as good as many present him to be. There were almost no good defenders back then.

[@wloonie]

He's what??? It took entire World around thirty years, new shoes, new balls (no pun), new training regimes and enormous practicing to be able to do what he naturally did in the stone age. Yet they had his play as a blueprint. The original never fades away, like Jimi Hendrix.

[@JackFleming-f9p]

Defenses back then were terrible though because they didn’t have the skills or small technical abilities that they do now and developed overtime. Look at any top Stryper in that era and you’ll see they will have hundreds of goals 200 around that and you don’t know who any of them are because they weren’t well known since the fences were so bad then they were they were able to rack up the tally of goals easily

[@justinsm]

@@JackFleming-f9p again like it stated he never play against MALDINI the best defender in 90s and Ramos the best defender this era.

[@dredoc1]

After watching his goals and assists I now think he's better than I thought.

[@muhdmultazam342]

Against some kindergarten yeah...

[@miran592]

@@muhdmultazam342 la liga was considered farmers league bro

[@hellowalkman4506]

@@muhdmultazam342 this is all WC footage

[@fluteisland]

if pele played today he would just be another cavani ahahahaha

[@aclock2]

@@fluteisland If he played today he would be much better than he was due to the better environment, food, coaching, training equipments....etc. Likewise, if Messi and Ronaldo grew in that era, they would be much worse than they are today.

[@thiagooliveira-wk9bl]

I never heard, in Brazil, Pele compared to Jairzinho or Zizinho, the only comparation, here, is Pele or Garrincha, Pele is like a god for brazilians

[@jonathandiaz3844]

That's because this channel is talking so much bullshit... According to his logic, then Muhammad Ali is overrated bc he has victories in exhibitions fights and he is too famous. This is disrespectful for those athletes who have left a great legacy to sports

[@shafo4384]

Ronaldo (R9) was 10 times as good as Pele.

[@miguelcanabrava4414]

Jonathan Diaz that’s so true this raymar guy knows nothing about soccer it’s insane how dumb he is

[@JoaoPedro-so8hv]

@@jonathandiaz3844 é muito desrespeitoso mesmo. pelé é uma lenda.

[@Mythmx]

@@jonathandiaz3844 no this channel is just saying facts ur just mad Pele ain't the goat

[@rodolfoaoliveira]

"He scored a lot against Brazilian small teams" Then talks up a lot of players who played for those small teams that helped Brazil win its first three world cup.

[@amknight7085]

look at it this way: if prem is a 10/10 nowadays and the brazilian league 6/10 then prem was 3/10 back then while the brazilian league was a 5/10 just an example those arent facts but an easy way to unterstand

[@OdysseyObscura]

AMKnight 👍

[@rafiusk56]

Most of his goals here in Brazil were in the State Championship, in which there are teams that don't even are in national divisions

[@madridistasejati5358]

Most of Brazil NT in Pele's era was actually played for Santos.

[@thequality6384]

But all those players were attackers. Him scoring 5 in a game against amateurs isn't impressive just because the opponent had a great ATTACKER.

[@GbrGz]

based on your video I realise Pele is not overrated at all

[@maximusp210]

But to say he is the greatest of all Time?

[@samista6446]

@@maximusp210 definitely he is

[@maximusp210]

@@samista6446 did he win the World cup 62?

[@Boaf9]

@@maximusp210 of course ..was he not in the tournament??did he not play in the tournament??go f**k off.

[@ParthPatel-no7kc]

@@maximusp210 yes and I know he was injured.

[@wat5]

I truly feels a bit annoying when someone says pele is overrated or compare him to modern days footballer because remember at that times football itself wasn’t that popular and there was no format, sponsor, training technique etc and pele just pops up out of nowhere dominating leagues, creating the standard, the beauty of football and eventually turning himself into a god of football.

[@ta7ta7toutou]

True

[@RichardBono]

@@user-ln6wn5po2w its easier to paint nowaday, but how many "Mona Lisa" we got?

[@jimmygeeraets9039]

cruijf has set the standard for modern football. not pele

[@raaxdrizzio9975]

@A B how was it easier for him if he played in those conditions aswell?

[@rushyscoper1651]

@A B only for him, pale had the skills messi, neymar and the mindset of cr7, i have no doubt he would be great footballer nowadays would he be the best? it would be like ppl arguing messi or cr7. but one thing for sure no one would have been able to do what he did back then, he just had the raw talent and skills that didn't even exist yet to be even improved latter on, they would be great but wouldn't create a revolution

[@wenxian3316]

just imagine kids 50 years down the road calling messi and ronaldo overrated.... not hating just saying

[@HnlWorld]

It will happen because football will probably advance more just like modern and football from 50 years ago

[@everythingisawesome2903]

You know it will happen, it's human nature

[@hetalmistry7416]

@@everythingisawesome2903 No it will happen because of development in sport and skills in pele's time it was mostly body feints and nutmegs now there are many skills

[@mHANIF-xl3rx]

@@hetalmistry7416 you're acting as if he is an advanced todays players playing against bunch of an old men, Advancment aspect, so he is just as advanced as others at top level, now imagine him playing with all advanced conditions today.

[@czrrok]

At least we have a lot of proofs unlike this fraud.

[@THC_Club_North_HTX]

Imagine if Pele had the kind of training, recovery, quality teammates and coaches as in today’s game. He would have been 10X better.

[@oravlaoravla2206]

Pele had the best teammates.

[@Vladimirputin11111]

Pele had the best teammate,, If US goes war against Vatican city/Luxemburg, do you think luxemburg has chance to win?? So pele had the best teammates,,,,, Look at today defenders!! 812 match 757,,, Us can easily destroy luxemburg in one day,, cause they don't have much defence as compare to Us,,, Modern day football is extremely competitive... Future football will be more competitive... He was the best in his generation and one of the greatest ever,,, but Not the greatest of all time.. (I think Ronaldinho is better than pele)

[@agyemanboaten4385]

Madness! Players were not protected like today. Defenders could butcher attackers any way they wanted. You had to kill a guy to get a red card. Moreover he created a lot of assists like Messi. Finally the narrator sounds like a 25 year old, who needs to see more players

[@aniketkumar197]

@@standopowah nobody is goat man.. There's no footballer who can hands down be called the goat.. There is some kind of a blot on everyone's career

[@ΑποστολοςΣταυρου-ρ8β]

Pelé in one World Cup played one game

[@samratghosh1392]

You have tried to prove Pele overrated but you have ended up proving him the greatest.

[@BalboaBaggins]

Put off your Pelé glasses. He was not as good as you think he was.

[@goaskyourmomformoreattenti2272]

@@BalboaBaggins dude please grow up, do you want attention that much? LOL, be respectful, please be an adult for once

[@cadds8055]

@@goaskyourmomformoreattenti2272 he really was not that good

[@dalcomaroni9837]

@@goaskyourmomformoreattenti2272 He already grew up, but you're just biased

[@KeViN-De-Belgium]

@@cadds8055dude pele was the greatest football player, it took people decades to beat some of his records.

[@sandalphoncpu]

Imagine having more World Cups than most countries just for a nobody to say “it’s ONLY 3”

[@HerotsLament]

He only won them because the sport was easy back then, no real competition like today. Pele is an embarrassment to the sport nowadays.

[@SWEETTOAST1708]

@@HerotsLament u are just another toxic Ronaldo or Messi fan aren't u

[@cutierosa2404]

@@HerotsLament right. so lets say we put pele in a modern era- having been raised with the same training, coaching, etc. of the modern era. you think he wouldnt match ronaldo and messi toe for toe?

[@regisblessbin1937]

@@cutierosa2404 doesn't matter cutie, he still got 3 wc's in his name, do messi and ronaldo even have 1? no i didn't think so, so stop making these excuses and go on with your life.

[@DaviFigueiraChavez]

@@HerotsLament If Pelé were born in Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo era he would have acess to modern technology and information, in conclusion: He would be a modern football beast like he were in his time

[@IIrogers]

1958 = he was just 17, bro 1962 = he got injured 1966 = injured again 1970 = to be fair with him, even though the team was amazing, and Jairzinho was the top goal scorer, Pele played so well and was the best in that tournment. He kinda silenced the haters that believed he could not be a protagonist in a world cup

[@ObsKureKaraoke]

With Pele in the game it was easy for Jairzinho to score a lot of goals. Nobody in the world says Jairzinho was the best of 70's Cup.

[@IIrogers]

@@ObsKureKaraoke exactly

[@euphoriaggaminghd]

Exactly. Pele had 7 assists in the world cup 1970. That's more than messi or ronaldo have had in their 4 world cups combined! And pele started off 1962 world cup very well, with a goal and assist in his only game before getting injured. These fools who say he was carried by Brazil are delusional

[@johnhonai4601]

@@euphoriaggaminghd Then please don't mention the 1962 win. Pele fans want to claim backyard goals as well as give him credit for team's win where he never played.

[@maximusp210]

@@euphoriaggaminghd oh wow he played one GOOD GAME in the first round n then was OUT…can u really say he deserves the Glory of saying HE WON THAT WORLD CUP..be real man

[@haaziq7182]

Imagine winning 3 world cups only to get disrespected by jack on twitter

[@fluteisland]

if pele played today he would just be another cavani ahahahaha

[@MuttonBiryani1994]

@Bruh Bruh Raymar said in reference to Cristiano Ronaldo calling Pele the best player ever, ”how can you call someone the greatest player ever if you have never even seen them play?” And I reply by asking: How can YOU Raymar call someone the most overrated player of all time if you have never even seen them play?? 2. He said that alot of Peles goals was scored in friendlies and against poor teams. That is false because 78% of those goals were scored against top tier first division teams. And friendlies didnt carry the low importance that they do today, the proof of this is that Pele has virtually the same goal per game ratio in competitive and friendly games (0.92 and 0.94) and he brought up goals scored in the military which was only 13 goals. He also brought up high scoring games and tried to make a false narrative out of it. The Santos of Pele only played in 14 games where they scored 8 goals or more. Now remember that Pele played 1400 games so he tried to make a false narrative out of literally 1% of Peles games. He clearly doesnt know what he’s talking about, just throwing out slanderous accusations without knowledge. He also used the brazilian Juventus as an example of this but thereby making the viewers think he never played against the Juventus of Italy or scoring against them which he did twice. In fact he has a higher goal ratio against Italian and European teams. . Then he said that the quality of players back then wasnt good and tried to insinuate that modern defenders are better and bringing up Sergio Ramos who isnt a world class defender. In fact it’s the opposite, more classical defendeds played back then than now. I cant think about many classical defenders in the modern game like Giacinto Fachetti, Tarcisio Burgnich, Franz Beckenbauer, Bobby Moore, Elias Figueroa, Nilton and Djalma Santos, Karl Heinz Schnelinger etc. Corroboration without evidence is worth nothing. Then he proceeded with a nonsensical argument that supposedly many people think Pele is WC top scorer which is a knock on peoples ignorance, not on Pele. However Pele has the best goal contribution ratio of all time. 12 goals in 13 world cup games and 10 assists aswell which is the world record of assists in the world cup. After that he proceeded saying Pele was ” outperformed” which is false but even more, no such thing exists in a team sport playing games in the world cup because you are there trying to help your team win at all cost, not to stat padd. Secondly he didnt mention that Pele was top scorer of Brazil at the 1958 World Cup in Sweden as a SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD!! And won best Young player. Then he said that Pele ”wasnt even the top scorer in 1970 instead Jairzinho was” but foolishly failing to mention who in fact it was that gave Jairzinho many assists setting the current standing world record of assists in a single wc tournament and the wc assist record in total. He should also have mentioned that Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Johan Cruyff, Diego Maradona and many other great players never were top scorers in the world cup. After that he amusingly brought up Luis Felipe Scolari quoting him as saying that Pele knows nothing about football. But I ask you what the heck has that got to do with anything about Pele as a football player?? Felipe Scolari the same man who managed Brazil to a historic 1-7 defeat against Germany at home. He also said Pele only has two World Cups because he got injured but that’s not a knock on Pele or any other player getting injured like Messi in the 2006 Champions League or Brazilian Ronaldo not playing a single minut at the 1994 World Cup. Finally he proceeded to name some marvelous Pele records and immidately after that blithely and inanely calling him ”the most overrated player of all time” what a bafoon.

[@MuttonBiryani1994]

@Bruh Bruh Dont get angry over the TRUTH. And dont swear. Pele is 🐐

[@MuttonBiryani1994]

@Bruh Bruh 12 goals in 13 wc games can you even read? Never ”outshined” and no such thing exists. Already debunked that nonsense.

[@MuttonBiryani1994]

@Bruh Bruh dont tell me to shut up. Stop believing in lies.

[@aalkhalaf1]

Pele overrated?! This is the biggest joke in football history. Pele is the king of football.

[@whatdidyousayy4754]

pele did that skill to franz beckenbauer

[@janetduran2090]

When he said you can’t say someone is good when you haven’t seen them play but you can’t say someone is overrated when you haven’t seen a single game

[@hellowalkman4506]

Hypocrisy at its best

[@Tubsidio]

Plus... seeing players on TV is completly different than seeing live...

[@alelexex]

@@Tubsidio How is it different, you still see them play

[@koburrr]

alexxan watching live games makes a big difference

[@alelexex]

@@koburrr I'm asking why

[@jaybot303functionerror4]

He was 17 in his 1st World Cup back when defenders could break your leg while taking some of the ball. The defenders you don’t rate could cripple players with very little to no consequences and would try to hurt him to get him off the pitch. His skills laid the blueprint for modern football, the things he attempted were not even thought of back them, football would not exist without the ground he broke, he was one of the 1st to nail done what a 10 is you argue Maradona + Messi perfected the role but Pele is iconic. Of course it’s not as polished as what you see now the 1st to do things aren’t. Yes his statistics are from South America league’s and massively padded. But he did it at world cups against the best in world for the time, against defenders like Bobby Moore.

[@kramsoedit314]

@tyler jackson lmao indeed

[@christophersalinas2722]

They couldn’t defend back then. They didn’t train to defend, they just followed the defenders and tried to intercept, that was kinda it. If they couldn’t intercept they would shove and that was it

[@jaybot303functionerror4]

@@christophersalinas2722 Yes Bobby Moore could not defend or win the ball cleanly. Watch the footage of Bobby Moore tackle on Pele it’s technically perfect even in today’s game. Pele played in a different era & like Maradona paved the way for modern players. It’s complete ignorance of era due to football bar World Cups that leads to people not recognising the influence that players like Pele, Maradona, & others had on modern football.

[@harshiths4270]

@tyler jackson they could do what they wanted without even getting booked buddy

[@fluteisland]

also in an era where even referees didn't understand offside LMAO

[@olanrewajuakinpelu5118]

Pele was not over rated by any standard. His description was just as it was presented today because he was a complete footballer who used all the three departments needed as a great footballer to score goals and brought joys to the heart of the spectators and fans . He used both right and his left legs to dribble, pass balls accurately and score with both . He used his head effectively to score and no player today have those qualities. He even score goals with his chest and he was team player on the field who gave passes to mates who was more advantageous to score than him to score for the team .

[@kosiski]

Good points

[@theodoricboahen8709]

Sounds like a prime cr7 except the both feet dribble

[@KeViN-De-Belgium]

@@theodoricboahen8709you can’t compare cr7 or Messi to pele, pele lived in an era were football was still growing, where people were still learning new skills with the football. Messi and cr7 didn’t have to create their own tactics, they just copied other people’s tactics.

[@JackFleming-f9p]

Everything he can do Messi or Ronaldo can do better, and they do it against better players

[@justinsm]

@@KeViN-De-Belgium yes, but they can improve what existed and at a much harder competition they still among the best of them all this centuries

[@falufale]

I mean the video makes sense, and I even liked, despite my love of Pele Just that there are millions of people that play just like him now, but he was the first person to ever develop that style of play, it's as if he traveled back in time. But he brought that style of play to the world so that's why he's regarded as the greatest.

[@channanrosario7215]

Preach faluale

[@samisaeed4565]

When people say he was the best ever i disagree and say exactly what you said

[@ratata8323]

Falufale R Rasew Think about it he’s trying to make it seem like it was too easy to score goals but why is it only Pele that was scoring goals if it was that easy to score goals against those teams. It’s simply because he stood out and he was the best and simply the greatest.

[@channanrosario7215]

Preach ratata

[@channanrosario7215]

Speak the truth

[@noahsamuelholde5810]

"only" won 3 world cups 😂

[@meli4535]

Lol ONLY and we have messi and Ronaldo never won a wc

[@fabyangranados764]

3 world cups

[@ddoommiinniic]

Noah Samuel Holde actually 3

[@soccerking7532]

@@meli4535 yes they have

[@meli4535]

@@soccerking7532 no they didn't

[@rashidulayon]

How to judge someone?? Judging his impact on his generation. So, Pele is unbelievably good at his time.

[@La1ahad1]

no he is shit

[@eddielambert3991]

He was really good just not as good as people think

[@rashidulayon]

@@La1ahad1 Are you freaking crazy...?

[@itsmebatman]

He was pretty good. But he also profited from playing with pretty good teammates. And he knew how to sell his name. Objectively speaking there are probably hundreds of players today, that are better than Pele.

[@carcontreras415]

@@rashidulayon he's not crazy, you're just deluded and probably weren't even alive when he was playing

[@lonestar6709]

Only 3 world cups? How about stopping a war? How about the international sporting body awarding him the "Athlete of the Century" award? How about his 1.07 goal per game average against European opposition? But hey... the Euros doubt some of his goals, so they can push their Ronaldo/Messi agenda. So he must be overrated, right? What a joke. Not only is he 'not' overrated. He's actually better than people say he is. That is all.

[@tonyobrien2951]

well said

[@axxessmundi]

Pele was tremendous in his time. Imagine if he would of had the power of the US media & sponsorship in his time? Remember he was a black teen in Brazil facing racism which the media wouldn't convey to the public because of national piety. He endured the tribulation of a continental competition reaching the final in Argentina to have a filled stadium of thousands chanting and ridiculing him with racial slurs. He defeated those chants by scoring and winning the prestigious Libertadores title. Imagine a young star like LeBron James having more than 50,000 people yell racial slurs in different arenas in your own nation and neighboring nations? Conquer those demons. Pele is not my favorite but learning what he went through as a person from child to a young adult is inspiring.

[@wandernauta2449]

Dude. You havent even seen one match from him

[@axxessmundi]

@@wandernauta2449 How does your ineptitude verify your conjecture? You're welcome

[@anonymousbanana204]

@@wandernauta2449 have you?

[@wandernauta2449]

@@anonymousbanana204 no but haven’t made an assumption about his skills either thats why

[@anonymousbanana204]

@@wandernauta2449 Oh I said that because of the way you said it made it sound like *you* did see him play.

[@aurelioaguilar6639]

He wasn't overrated he was just ahead of his time = if he were to play in today's competitions I know his game would improve to match his skills with today's defenders.

[@krnwilldoit]

Nah overrated

[@thesecret6019]

@@krnwilldoit Okay salty Messi fangirl

[@krnwilldoit]

The Secret Messi who? Don’t like that overrated peace of shit , and if someone being salty I mean look at yourself with that shitty comeback

[@lekanogunsola438]

@@krnwilldoit messi isnt overated

[@krnwilldoit]

lekan Ogunsola I hope Your joking

[@davide7046]

If u go to an old brazilian man and ask him about Pelé, he looks down and takes his hat down, because he is "o Rei" (the king) But if you ask him about Garrincha, he looks down and cries, because he was "a alegria do povo" (joy/happiness of the people) this is pretty self explanatory

[@julkernyne8925]

Sums up the video it seems

[@dicitencellovoyais7914]

When Santos went to play the final against Penarol, the headline in the newspaper was like "King kong arrived in Montevideo", there was physical and psychological abuse and the only answer was to play football and not cry on Twitter. There were several stories of the Intercontinental Cup when Europeans went to play in Argentina and Uruguay, bizarre history as players threw stones at European strikers, etc. Only on youtube with portuguese language. "The era of the pelé were poor defenders"...HAHAHAHAHA he absolutely does not know the absurd stories of the Copa Libertadores.

[@firstnamelastname-rz5xl]

@@dicitencellovoyais7914 you copy pastin'?

[@firstnamelastname-rz5xl]

@@dicitencellovoyais7914 racism still exists and players now do get injured by the user of hands and legs like Messi got in the el classico and Ronaldo's eye also bled in one of his real Madrid days

[@lsf698]

@@firstnamelastname-rz5xl Man there is no comparison between defenders in tha era and today. There was much more violence. Brazialian teams often chose to not participate in Libertadores Cup because of the crazy things could happen in Buenos Aires or Montevideo, things like the policemen beating players during halftime! Nowadays with television and the like the players cant be so violent. Pele was special because he could do that stuff even against so much violent defenders, since he was very strong compared to other players.

[@gabrielyiadom914]

Pelé was never overrated always underrated ❤❤

[@ridwox]

How to say I have 0 ball knowledge

[@Daamn132]

Tell ur grandfather that Pele is overrated and see what he would do to you😂

[@gabcages]

he's American so I think his grandfather only watches baseball

[@lostmbk]

@@gabcages ya prolly

[@ahmadharith4275]

@@gabcages they only watch 'football'....americans only watch 'football'..,you know what i mean they dont watch the real football they watch football that mostly are using hand and not foot

[@sourswift]

I told my dad “Messi is better than Pelé and he disowned me jk he just started arguing with me

[@ahmadharith4275]

@@sourswift same here lol....i once told my dad that pele is overrated and he doesn't agree with me.....but i think he agrees that pele is one of the greatest,but not the best in history

[@paulojacobsilva3018]

Go ask the players. Pelé refined a style of play that was developed in Brazil and made it competitive. Everything that followed him was because HE made it successful. You don't understand your topic. Like I said, go ask all players from different generations.

[@fluteisland]

if pele played today he would just be another cavani ahahahaha

[@paulojacobsilva3018]

Have you ever seen Cavani play? Bad comparison.

[@tambemacho4891]

Bro Pelé showed up in 1958 World Cup with 18 years old and scored in the semifinals and scored 2 goals in the finals, one of the goals was applying a "sombrero" in the defender, Pelé scored 1283 goals without taking penalties because he considered penalties a coward way of scoring, truly the GOAT, Raymar its completely lost in this video, its like he started to watch football just recently, lol.

[@paulojacobsilva3018]

@@tambemacho4891 It's anachronism. Pelé defined the game, no matter how faster and physical it is today.

[@tambemacho4891]

@@paulojacobsilva3018 and there is evidence that in nowadays he would be able to perform in top level just like Messi and Cristiano: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKCXaJJ-rqioqcU

[@adriandacruz9018]

I think this video reminds us all of why we won't listen to Americans when it comes to football.

[@rashood8511]

And what would you say if he compared Messi and Ronaldo to pele?

[@MezasRealm]

Há outro Rei 👑 , aceita que dói menos !!

[@sidneyteixeiralopes5700]

@@rashood8511 kIND OF impossible. The game is very different now. Futsal for instance did not even exist, and a lot of the most skillfull players practice futsal from a young age. The training back than was nothing like today. They players used to run less than 5 km in a match,today is more than 10 km per match

[@willianmoises1503]

wow, i will got you an award for this and an award in case you lost the first

[@keikofilms]

Exactly!

[@Averifiedperson7712]

Moral of the story: Never let an American talk about football

[@DestBoi]

fax

[@ridwox]

Bro y’all are so dumb

[@YellowAthenian1924]

Never let someone living in a 3rd world country talk about America

[@guruxara7994]

@@YellowAthenian1924 So the US can't talk about itself? lol

[@YellowAthenian1924]

@@guruxara7994 your the type of person to say pele is the best player because he has 3 world cups

[@raodivyanshu9918]

Look at how the ball is moving on ground, these days grounds are so smooth. Controlling the ball back then must have been more difficult He didn't just score goals, he uplifted football as a game

[@quint4785]

If we were to send Messi for example back in time to play during Pele's era Messi would absolutely stomp on everyone, probably scoring almost every attack solo. Saying that older generation players are better just is not true.

[@Asriuh]

@@quint4785 learn to read bozo

[@sonnyblack9618]

@@quint4785 lol messi would be injured at that time after a couple of games

[@marcosdheleno]

@@quint4785 dude, pele got hit by around 15-20 fouls EVERY MATCH. with people intentionaly aiming to break him since there were no cards yet. also, the offside rules were more dificult to play as if ANY player of the team was in offside, the entire play would be dismissed. not only that, the guy went on a tour with santos, 130 matches against eurpoean clubs and even national teams, with 144 goals scored by him. he was so good, fiat offered stocks to have him play on juventus. he never got a BD for the simple fact he wasnt european, as that was an european player trophy. and, if they were, according to fifa themselves, Pele would've gotten 7, same as messi. there was also the fact the ball was incredibly hard to control, with terrible fields to play in. he was so good, the guy even got knighted by queen Elizabeth. his matches were so important to the sport, it was literaly used to stop a war. tell me, how many players do you think are able to achieve that? and he wasnt just a striker, the guy also had an impressive number of assists as well.

[@aldwinberlien3775]

The ball was heavier at the time too

[@shanegeorge9420]

Today's generation only look at stats .not at how a player influences a match nor presence on the field.

[@etaaro]

you can say that again

[@Edwinsoda]

I mean yeah stats is usually what gets results.

[@shanegeorge9420]

@@Edwinsoda u must be a millennium

[@shanegeorge9420]

Stats come after results if I must put it in a simple manner..it's the analysis of data ect..ect

[@Edwinsoda]

@@shanegeorge9420 yes I'm a thousand years 😂 and how ever way you put it stats help teams decide which players work and which dont. But you kinda answered it yourself

[@juanpablogonzalez1451]

1:42 how can you call Pele the most overrated player ever if you haven’t watched him play?

[@gustavodutra5474]

and how he is the goat if you haven't watched him play?

[@xhonixhekfiku7211]

He is fucking dumb thats why

[@Crisscrossondapommelhorse]

He looked at the teams he scored against and watched the games ??? Yeah buddy pele scored against nobodies and got carried in world cup

[@juanpablogonzalez1451]

@@Crisscrossondapommelhorse oh no 😭😭😭

[@juanpablogonzalez1451]

@@gustavodutra5474 never said he was, never said he wasn’t

[@juliorodriguez1993]

Pelé was not even the best player in his team that was Garrincha but his story created a brand and you have to understand that money moves the world.

[@NoLimits02]

"In no way trying to disrespect Pele" 🤦‍♂️

[@fluteisland]

if pele played today he would just be another cavani ahahahaha

[@AbsoleteAim]

@@fluteisland Troll?

[@lnb29]

He said it and then went on to disrespect the intelligence of people watching

[@pranavborikar3100]

Says Pele wasn't voted best in 1958 WC. Doesn't mention he was Brazil's topscorer Says he wasn't their topscorer in 1970 but doesn't mention he was voted as best player Unbiased isn't it

[@hellowalkman4506]

LMAO so true. The problem is Raymar completely ripped off this video topic from 2 hit pieces on Pele. He did absolutely little to no research for his own.

[@IamSuperEffective]

@@hellowalkman4506 Exactly, such a pathetic video

[@666-k2k9k]

and he loves to dickride messi for being a playmaker, being able to score and assist a ton. yet when it comes to pele, doesn’t even mention his 1970 world cup inwhich he solidified as the best playmaker the world has ever seen. his last world cup campaign ended in 4 goals and 5 assists, even scored and assisted in the final against that 1970 Italy team which had zoff, fachetti, zoff, giani, and riva.

[@MrPulimen]

He was Brazil top scorer cause the dude only played in Brazil all his life. If you wanna be the best, you have to go to Europe where the challenge is at.

[@revlismorningstar825]

@@666-k2k9k I'm more of a Ronaldo fan than Messi, and I can say with certainty that Messi is Leagues above Pele😂

[@kingst3w189]

When people say “put them on this eras game and see what happens” they acting like pele wouldn’t have the same training, shoes, coaches, turf. He was already amazing but with this eras training he would be undoubtedly the GOAT

[@murmor6890]

Yes, imo there would be some legends that would suffer but Pele always kinda had a modern mentality about training and preparation, he would do well.

[@Locusss]

Well the reason I don't rate Pele is because I never actually saw him play live. That is why most of the all time greats after him are higher on my list. I acknowledge that he was the best of his time and respect him for helping develop the game to what it is today, but for my list, he is not up there. I can only rate players I actually saw play live.

[@HerotsLament]

No he wouldn't

[@amanplayz518]

@@Locusss that’s just being ignorant, learn about what he did and what kind of player he was, Pele was the most complete footballer of all time, I’ve not seen him play live but I’ve seen many documentaries about him

[@Locusss]

@@amanplayz518 Get real fam. He ain't even close to "the most complete footballer of all time" Scoring 8 past bums in an 12-0 landslide victory doesn't scream complete does it? It is a given that he was ahead of his time and I respect his achievements. Also football is 2 ways, offense and defense, so being complete as a footballer would mean being good in both of those areas, in which Pele was definitely not. Ignorant from you even putting his name and complete footballer in the same sentence.

[@hamburger149]

"The level of football that Pele was playing against at that time was not exceptional at all" This is how ridiculous your point is. Pele was the greatest because he was way ahead of his time. You can't compare Pele to Messi or Ronaldo, they played in very different eras. Everything was different. You can only compare a player with his contemporaries.

[@close5861]

Even if iPhone 5 was the best apple smartphone of its time, you can't deny the fact that iPhone 14 is the best apple smartphone of all time. Now, see how ridiculous your point is?

[@hamburger149]

@@close5861 that's how dumb an argument can be... you need a neurologist asap

[@close5861]

@@hamburger149 Sure, believe whatever you want, not even sure who you need for this disease.

[@hamburger149]

@@close5861 just chill bro

[@caravela2002]

@@close5861 can't understand an simple text. congrats

[@MrAdolphgervas]

Actually this video shows how great Pele was

[@fluteisland]

if pele played today he would just be another cavani ahahahaha

[@duhurensohn8416]

he wassnt

[@aingelcsmith]

Davinci 225 it actually doesn’t

[@armose2243]

@@fluteisland if Ronaldo and Messi played that time they wouldn’t even made it

[@scarfacexxzzyt50yearsago52]

@@armose2243 stfu they would be like gods or u dumb or something

[@fabiank4396]

Even in this video you can clearly see how good he was.

[@piscesman54]

Playing against static cones on the pitch?

[@gabrielvillegas5508]

Forgive him bro. The man is confused just like Pele 😭😭😁😁

[@elbuki4006]

@@gabrielvillegas5508 nah it’s actually pele that’s making them look like that, defenders back then were still pretty technical, ex: Bobby moore’s tackle on pele search it up, winning the World Cup and scoring goals against the very best winning libertadores, not being in europe because he was a national athlete, being the best talent in his era, no one in Europe, Africa, South America ect could ever show his leg explosiveness, control of the ball, quick footwork, power on his shooting. Pele was an unreal talent,

[@elbuki4006]

@@gabrielvillegas5508 if you actually look messi dribbling against la liga players they look just as bad or maybe even worse

[@elbuki4006]

@@gabrielvillegas5508 defenders shown in the video are showing actually some kind of level in marking and tackling, they seemed to be coping with him, and not going yolo like every ignorant you seem to be saying, pele just had too much footwork and dribbling

[@jonhwesley2011]

The part about the goals, it's good to remember that Santos decided to tour on Europe beacause of the money, letting Brazil in second place. That's why he has so many unofficial goals. But those goals were against europeans teams.

[@SammyFash]

Thank you

[@MrTotalluck]

A nobody belittling the only guy who won 3 world cups. Scored goals galore. And won at least once every tournament he Took part in. And hes also guilty of Brazil teams names being similar to other world sides. Yeah, Let Us take you seriously.

[@SidFreeman0]

4:40 okay, carlos alberto, bobby moore, franz beckenbauer and jack charlton

[@JoeyRBX]

You mean Bobby charlton

[@AshleyBD15]

Precisely these were elite defenders ..look at Franz Beckenbauer statistics 🤷🏾‍♂️..he does not need to be top goal scorer ..he was the best and an influencer the players in the team themselves rate him as the best i.e like the jewel in a 👑

[@Harrystar02]

@@JoeyRBX who isn't even a defender lool

[@georgelaws5566]

@@JoeyRBX jack charlton his brother was a great defender

[@JoeyRBX]

@@Harrystar02 oh fair enough i forgot about jack hes bobbys brother I support Man U so I don’t know much about him

[@andsonpaintinginc8337]

In a nutshell. Yeah Pele did everything from win 3 world cups and score over 1000 goals but it’s not that big of a deal. Next from Raymar why Michael Jordan and Tom Brady are overrated.

[@greybo4034]

Hahhha he have only 764 goals not 1282 .. it's a lie .. he scored against friendlies which made up to 1282 ... he has 764 official goals .. go learn football dude .. then come here

[@onlyfacts3178]

whos better OSCAR SCHMIDT or JORDAN???? its the same when you talk about PELE who played in amateur leagues in BRAZIL and USA...

[@onlyfacts3178]

@@that3401 half???? 99%....dont forget that he played in USA and in BRAZIL all his life...

[@billalzerouali2528]

@@that3401 yo tou mnkw back in the days Brazilian league was a. Eaat since Brazilian player in it also be defeated the European giants sometimes he scored 10 goals

[@hulk8384]

@@that3401 yes

[@FoxSilverFox1]

Imagine winning 3 world cups only for this American to tell you your overrated

[@anotheryoutubechannel123]

Pretty sad.

[@maxxvii2037]

He barely played in the first one and he wasn't even the best player in the first 2

[@coolhandduke8208]

Pele is good. But there's one player that is greater than him, and everyone else. Plus, he's not from North America.

[@mmiikkeeb14]

Dumb underachievers always try to belittle great people to feel good for themselves

[@AD-yn3yz]

@@maxxvii2037 man got 12 goals and 10 assists in 14 world cup matches and in the 2 world cups he played was either extremely young (1958) or in the ending of his prime(1970)

[@euanlegge3657]

This is like saying Fangio wasn’t a good driver because he wouldn’t make it in a modern f1 car. Pele may have counted goals in friendlies but he still scored 77 for Brazil. won 3 WORLD CUPS. The fact is that football had never seen a player like him before (with respect to Puskas and Stefano, Pele was technically unmatched). You can’t look at the past with modern eyes. His ability and influence has probably contributed to the modern footballer, especially with that 70s Brazil side. I would argue R9 was the closest player to Pele in terms of ability before the game really became more defensive. If your still in the debate for GOAT 50 years after you retired, it truly shows how impactful you are.

[@sisenor5249]

I am Brazilian and I've never heard a SINGLE person here say Jairzinho is the best player ever. And real old-timers (80 years +) might make a claim for Zizinho being the second greatest ever - rarely would you hear them say he tops Pelé. This guy is absolutely NUTS. There is very little dispute here. The VAST majority of Brazilians consider Pelé the greatest ever - although some might throw in Garrincha or Ronaldo in the discussion every once in a while. Still, very little dispute.

[@zeusraptis5834]

Pele Garrincha Tostao Romario Ronaldo

[@fran-yv1xc]

Messi the best ever

[@zeusraptis5834]

@@fran-yv1xc Where is the world cup from Messi?

[@fran-yv1xc]

@@zeusraptis5834 another guy that thinks he needs a world cup to be the best player in the history🙄, bro, Maradona's team in comparison to Messi's team was a lot much better, they are not like Barca that they work for him, even feels like they want him to don't have the ball, only the forwards were elite players, but they have never worked well together, the rest of the team os not that great

[@zeusraptis5834]

@@fran-yv1xc he needs world cup because it is the only way to prove he is worthy, without it he will be just another good player, at least he needs to win copa America

[@kojokincaide3199]

"Only won 3 world cups" Bruh

[@louisthonke6578]

Kojo Kincaide yeah thats 12 years you can pretty much only win 3-4

[@tj_1z]

True cos a World Cup is every 4 years

[@Darkiie]

You genius, maths is clearly your strong point and you have a gift. You should be calibrating Large Hadron Colliders to create positrons for anti matter usage not here.

[@dungquy9474]

@@Darkiie Im a genius too. I know that 2 plus 2 equals 4.

[@I_Tried..]

@@dungquy9474 fucking legend😂😂

[@validsalad1171]

Imagine calling somebody over rated and not being able to say their name right

[@anelbalic7773]

Have you even whatched the whole video.

[@validsalad1171]

Wym? Lmao

[@Fortnite-vs1xp]

I,r

[@gealt7017]

Apex 2k dude he was at the Brazilian League 😂😂😂

[@emmettramirez18]

stfu

[@rudimentalico]

1958 World Cup: Pelé, 17 years = 6 goals, Silver Ball, Hat-trick against Fontaine, two goals in final. Overrated.

[@lewismartin4306]

You judge a player by their quality in their era. Just as pele would struggle against modern defences, Ronaldo wouldn't have the professional training and fitness in peles era. So it's simply not a just comparison.

[@okechukwuegonu627]

My sentiments exactly...this was well-produced click-bait

[@foolanhi8183]

No. Ronaldo would’ve destroyed everything in their era if he were the same man as now. But if he was born into that era he wouldn’t have been as good.

[@elvismendoza150]

@Vitoloric true, there were no cards back then.

[@yashprabhu4189]

@Vitoloric you know just because there were no cards doesnt mean the players were mentally insane, who the fuck would punch someone and get with it?😂😂 it's a football match not mma and there was no offside rule too, the league was rough back then yes but if you take current messi or ronaldo they would literally run circles around them

[@jxe5884]

@@yashprabhu4189 there were offside back then. Back then you were offside unless two players were infront of you. Now youre onside if youre level with one defender or behind the ball. Offside was invented in 1863

[@na0li_]

There is football before Pele, and after Pele. He changed the culture.

[@hellowalkman4506]

Absolutely. The biggest football star ever. He transcended the sport.

[@hellowalkman4506]

@A Footballing Genius nope. Pelé is better arguably.

[@hellowalkman4506]

@A Footballing Genius yeah but less overrated than the ones you mentioned.

[@jay5ivez]

@@hellowalkman4506 Pele is a fraud, you must not watch football to think someone claiming to be the best only ever scored against farmers, go watch some football kid

[@zeinmets3550]

@NMA 55 NIDHIN JOBI Dude had people kissing the ground that he walked on. We will likely never see a footballer receive that kind of adulation again. Talent-wise, only R9 is better. Maradona and Messi are on the same level as he is, CR7 sadly is not.

[@davimonteirodecarvalhojuni8550]

I am just a little unsure about two topics: 1. At that time, most football players who played in their national squad also played for teams inside their own countries, and considering that Brazil was practically dominating world cup titles at that time, it's very likely that Brazil had the best teams, and the best league. Sure there were bad teams as there are bad teams today in top level leagues across Europe - but still, it's likely Brazil had the best league. 2. Santos denied to play official matches (like Copa Libertadores) in order to play friendlies around the world, and, as far as I'm concerned, most of these friendlies were in Europe against the top-tier level teams of their respective countries - and these teams were actually ardously trying to defeat Santos and Pele. Hence, I would assume some of these goals in friendly matches may be not a big deal (e.g. army matches), but as far as I'm concerned (did not do deep research on each match, and how players were motivated to play), most of them were against top level teams of their respective countries seriously playing against Santos and Pele.

[@Aloha698]

That is just a little sample of the Eurocentric mindset 🙄 we stop caring years ago ..

[@nguyenai1337]

Brazil is the machine of football stars. And they called a 17 years old for WorldCup. That boy made hat-trick in semifinal. 😂

[@opera3929]

fine he is overrated but not ever, pele played limited knowledge compared with what we know today, he was self taught from the streets while most of todays players are coached

[@evermondragon8305]

coazt Messi didn’t learned what he know by being coach. He had a special talent ever since he was a young kid.

[@opera3929]

Ever Mondragon but he never would have gotten where he is today without the special treatments he got. Pele had nothing

[@evermondragon8305]

coazt yea Messi had a growth problem. So he was limited to what he can do. Even with that problem he has done more than anybody else. Who is physically better fit in the game. Against all odds Messi became the best player and is the best player. And the thing is. He don’t even consider himself the best player. All he want to do is win titles with his team. He just snatching every individual award along the way. Messi is better than pele and any other legend that has stepped foot on the pitch.

[@opera3929]

Ever Mondragon i agree with you but you then have to ask yourself, Would messi get those treatments in peles time?

[@evermondragon8305]

coazt no he wouldn’t gotten the treatment at those times. Ask your self this. With the game evolved in this era. You think pele can score as many goals as he did on today’s top 5 leagues in the world?let alone do it for more than 10 years?

[@JohnnyDO1111ofAltea7D]

Marodona = First Hokage Pele: Sage of the Six Paths

[@tiveqcriarcontanova]

Messi = Sasuke (genius) Ronaldo = Naruto (hardwork)

[@SportLoversINT]

Pele = Kaguya Messi = Naruto Ronaldo = Sasuke Maradona = Dms Kakashi Sakura = Lingard

[@liketobecalled]

This is amazing

[@camisa993]

@@SportLoversINT Pele Kaguya Maradona Madara Naruto Messi Sasuke Cristiano Sakura:Dembele 😂😂😂😂

[@pixelvapour1960]

@@tiveqcriarcontanova Haaland = Naruto (Hard work)

[@dun8410]

The year is 2060 KZbin video "Why MESSI was overrated"

[@nigel6911]

The ones who didn't see Messi playing will say this

[@dun8410]

@@nigel6911 Like the ones who didnt see PELE

[@XxSypherxX91]

If he doesn’t win a World Cup you can bet that video will happen.

[@liounique1177]

@@XxSypherxX91 he's gonna win this Copa America

[@Tefloff]

Cap

[@unnirajac8617]

Maybe after 60+ years someone will make a video on why Messi and Ronaldo is overrated. How would we feel then. Who knows what is going to happen in future

[@Zueira-ln4zm]

dude if u say that the defenders weren’t as well trained as today, you have to consider that pele wasn’t as well trained and didn’t have as many equipment as players today, and still even if you don’t count the unofficial goals, he scored more goals than Cristiano ronaldo. So for a player to score that many goals without the training and equipment that messi and ronaldo have these days, then he for sure is the greatest of all time.

[@jorgeivanrodriguezreyes6446]

It's the same though, like Messi and Ronaldo play against players who also have acces to this technology... it balances out, doesn't make a difference. That's why you can't say for sure if anyone was better, it is just based on era and influence, and in that case, he certainly was the best in his era, and has had the most impact than any player that has ever existed. So yeah, I think he is the greatest and unless another player arrives and does something revolutionary that gives him the type of influence he had... it will continue to be that way. That's just my opinion.

[@gabe1277]

he played in brazil and in the u.s what equipment could you possibly need

[@meme6335]

Exactly whether it’s Pele, Babe Ruth or Wayne Gretzky sports fans of today are prisoners of the moment and diminish their accomplishments because of how primitive the game was in their eras. Yet they ignore advancements in training, equipment, nutrition and medicine that players of today have in their favour. If you take any of those greats and give them access to those things they will still be one of if not the best players in their sport.

[@Bob-iz2ji]

messi is better than pele he's 29 goals behind him for club games and he's only 32 pele played THE WORST defenders ever Messi played more greats pele never played in Europe where he could better players

[@David-nw6wj]

Coaches back then only trained the attacker, defenders weren’t a priority especially in Brasil. Fútbol has changed a lot defenders have gotten faster, taller, stronger, quicker, and smarter. Pele made a type of futbol the Brazilian way, but if you see that type of soccer doesn’t work no more Neymar struggles to do it and ronaldhino couldn’t do it either. If we put Cristino or messi back then then they would’ve been the best too those two players changed soccer because they maintained their form for 15 years pele and Maradona didn’t have the level messi and ronaldo have rn. Not even ronaldo the Brazilian maintain his level.

[@gambitgambitgambit]

Dude you’re brave, I’ll give you that

[@dondolla2135]

How can he be overrated if the guy never seen him play ???

[@Luka-pv2dt]

@@dondolla2135 my grandfather told me there was so bad defence pele was going and defence was like foll when he is watching messi he always goes crazy cuz in old football there was only brazil who were playing aginist farmers but he said maradona was good but not better than messi he said messi in #1 and in his opinion second is r9

[@joaodasilva4342]

how about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiVnXSseKtgnrM

[@joaodasilva4342]

@@Luka-pv2dt, how about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiVnXSseKtgnrM

[@ferosekhan2389]

@@Luka-pv2dt But why he was the best in that lol defence time???😂😂😂 Why he was the best🤥

[@mdayanulislam1176]

His grandson will make a video titling Messi is the most overrated.

[@jairosoto3445]

Except messi's not counting his goals in friendlies

[@yuritheslav7034]

You're really telling me he's gonna have a grandson??

[@togbehpeter3846]

Except Messi has legitimately statistic that prove he’s one of he greatest of all time

[@Pele10KingForever]

@@togbehpeter3846 that probably true i agree but messi is not the goat in my opinion because even though stats will say one thing it doesn't show how Pele is the complete player Pele Left and right foot goals Header goals Perfect vision No touch master Sombero flick master Skilled Nutmegs Fast (22 or 23 mph) and has a 48 inch vertical Excellent freekicker Good dribbler Although he never played in Europe he could of played in Europe and if you say otherwise then think about this if Pele never played in the World Cup does that mean he couldn't shine in the world cup absolutely NO so what about europe. Think about it he could of played for Real Madrid with di stefano and easily win plenty of UCL trophys he could of played with eusebio but he didn't or even George best and Bobby Charlton but he didn't and even plenty of more teams but he didn't . Pele didn't play in Europe not because he was afraid of Europe but because he had no desire to play in Europe just like most of the other players on brazil 🇧🇷 like garrincha ,jarzinho ,zagallo , rivellino and plenty more but they didn't does it mean they can't play NO so the same with Pele.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Except his contribution to his team is probably at least 3 times more significant than Pele in matches against the toughest opponents

[@joaopadua7134]

Just remember the only man that came close to competing with Pelé was a man that needed to use his hand to score

[@khaleda.135]

Messi and Ronaldo are already better than both Pele and Maradona, though. More than ten years of dominance which was unprecedented.

[@FarawayBrawlHacks]

@@khaleda.135 *wheeze*

[@khaleda.135]

@@FarawayBrawlHacks cope

[@ManuelPersona24]

​@@khaleda.135 Longevity doesn't matter,

[@cldbf]

The not officials games was against Real madrid, benfica(eusebio), inter milan, milan... etc. And at the time, not officials games was realy disputed. Pele was unbelievable player.

[@andreortizdecarvalho]

That's true. Perfect. You've to put on perspective what was a Exhibition match at the time, and how hard they would play against Pele.

[@yatzee2e186]

“Pele is overrated” also raymar: youngest to score a hat trick in the world cup

[@jakubdovgosheya5053]

no one is denying him being a great player, he is just saying that he isnt as good as claimed

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

@@jakubdovgosheya5053 That's no problem as long you don't bring multiple ridiculous points. I'm really open for a debate but his points are just jaw drapping, editor shouldn't have done this video and it is a pure Messi Ronaldo fanboys pleaser.

[@jakubdovgosheya5053]

@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 which points do you find so riddiculous? I actually think he made a good argument

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

@@jakubdovgosheya5053 I'm just copying another comment of mine. You can tell I'm over-passionate but just ignore those emotions. "Agreed. Your comment deserves 1 million likes. It perfectly describes the ridiculousness of this video. This guy actually says „the quality then wasn't good" to emphasize Pele is overrated. To claim Pele was overrated is bs enough but this point out of others is beyond crazy. We are in a constant circle of subjektiv spinning bs in the belief the current generation was everything but there is no doubt in a few decades another experts like him will go "quality wasn't good then, so Messi is overrated🎻🎶". Editor doesn't understand that life is a constantly evolving process and down playing football's past is a pile of b.s. coz he's simply not able the see the whole football elephant. Another thing about Pelé's Greatness he doesn't even realiz: After so many years since Pelé's retirement and despite rare footages he's still talking about him. This is how legends show clueless doubters the finger. 😎👍🏿btw it's an insult to throw Ronaldo in ;)" At this point he simply lacked common sense and compares totally different generations to come to the conclusion that the quality then wasn't good enough. It's true, from our pov these vintage footages actually don't look good but his purpose to underline that Pele was overrated is too much. So his point is, without being aware of it, basically: Messi will likely be considered as overrated soon or later too coz the quality wasn't good and reffering to ridiculously slow vintage Messi footages. Btw besides comparing the quality of different times I'm not a fan of GOAT debates in any team sports as well. Who tf even knows the real most significant criterions to figure out who's the best and we probably don't appreciate goalkeepers enough. Hope my comment makes sense, English isn't my first language. Greetings from Germany

[@supa4ys843]

@@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 I actually think Messi and Ronaldo are overrated. Pele? Not so much. But ain't no way Pele touching Messi and Ronaldo's level. I wholeheartedly believe that

[@LeMasterYi]

Just look at those skills when none even knew they existed...

[@brucetrappleton6984]

I guess you don't know and football fans in general don't know that in South America the dominant countries were Argentina and Uruguay at the time of Pelé. Both countries had plenty of players with that type of skills.

[@mhmhsscpmbtvsmsrsc3865]

Exactly , its impossible to make a lot of people and legends of football lie about himself , hes not the most handsome , he always answering question in weird way and obviously he didnt suck all their human dicks to extremely completion to make them lie about him being so great

[@mhmhsscpmbtvsmsrsc3865]

The thing is we don't really see him playing , we don't know why judge him about it , theres a lot of overrated player these days , them being considered as good as Cristiano or leo , but they only back passing people ( short French striker ) , hes not even better than Dembele or Diego Costa , put aside neymar , Hazard or mbappe

[@ErickGarcia-qs2yh]

I thinj you didn't see Garrincha. He is still is considere the best dribbler ever here in Brazil for many people.

[@misterditkovich4439]

@@brucetrappleton6984 ik and if you look at the those defenders i've seen year 10's who can defend better

[@marlosbarroso]

Pele popularised football, and he played a major role to the popularity of football today world wide. Pele was the first GOAT no matter what people think nobody can take this achievement from him just like nobody can deny the fact that Yuri Gagarin was the first human to go to space.

[@nikhilsuman2008]

Yes. So were Don Bradman, Rod Laver, Ali and other legends of their respective games who played before the era of KZbin experts. 🤦‍♂️

[@ThePrince1835]

How is Ali overrated?

[@sanghamitramitra2629]

@@ThePrince1835 he wasn't

[@reginald8947]

Ali isn't overrated 🙄

[@samtech8309]

Dumbo did you even watched Don Bradman, Rod laver played, All the legends are hyped. They must have been great in their generation but not the greatest of all time. For sure you must have heard stories from your father or grandfather in which case you are dumb to listen to their stories they like to exaggerate, Media and boomers are the ones who brainwashed you calling them greatest. They will not survive or achieved their heights in this competitive era. Use your brain!

[@horrorflixurdu9138]

Ali was the maan

[@alexisbudzisz]

So by that logic Eistein was not the best physicist because what he figured out is now known by every grad-level physicist in the world...

[@thomashannan1142]

I like what you said and agree, but Tesla actually invented DC and the light bulb!!! The difference is PELE brought football into the light, and Edison stole IT!!!

[@eileenhill1800]

Alexis Costa Einstein is not the best physicist so technically the logic would make sense

[@funkhey4884]

Alexis Costa If Pele was playing around this time in fifa he’ll be literally 70 rated, he’s a bot

[@guillaumemartin9295]

Einstein is the most famous but he isn't the best physicist at all lol

[@pinkturnipo2986]

Do you even listen? Overrated doesn't mean bad, dumbass

[@Francey03]

Me: Is confused why someone would call Pele overrated Also me when I hear an American accent: "Understandable have a great day."

[@kayqueelson1761]

Ahhahahahahaha.

[@signity5540]

Exactly what I thought

[@electrogem7142]

Don’t understand why always American and Asian channels are the one who hate on pele

[@Francey03]

@@electrogem7142 Because they don't know anything about Football.

[@harnygoodle3987]

@@Francey03 that’s pretty stereotypical and disrespectful that although may be mainly true isn’t fully true, this man obviously knows a thing or two about football so shut up.