why people can't handle this "new Lisa"

[@horses4555]

I think she needs to prove herself as an artist. She needs to sing and stop performing with such a loud backtrack. This isn’t Korea where it is normal for idols to barely sing. In the west all of the top artists almost always sing live. Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter, etc. She is now performing on the same stage as these people and many other insanely talented artists, of course she is going to be compared to them now. You want a be a singer then hunny you gotta sing and you gotta do it in a way so everyone knows you are doing it. It’s not enough to be a good dancer or performer because everyone else is doing that and being an incredible vocalist too.

[@LinaLayan-sz1rd]

I don't think Ariana or Sabrina are good dancers I don't think they even learn how to dancer they're just like toktok dancers

[@handleless986]

​​​@@LinaLayan-sz1rdYeah, I only disagree with OP that being a good dancer isn't good enough, since a good chunk of popular artists in America do not dance. It isn't that "they're doing that and more" it's "they don't even dance and they're doing the best". I think that actually makes it even more difficult for Lisa. Being a good dancer is a bonus, not something that actually defines an artist. Even good dancers like doja cat is first and foremost recognized for their sound, not the moves they bust (though it's nice if they do, especially on live stages, and if it just happens to spawn a tiktok challenge)

[@Tarikkb]

At first I was also questioned on what Lisa could possibly do after bp , she’s hardworking and adapts easy there’s no question about that but I didn’t know where she could go due to limitation of yg imo , I kept thinking that even after rockstar but new women made me realize we never met Lisa, or any of the members , and the tiny bit that we met are just that , tiny bits , that’s actually why lowkey excited about their solo work’s especially Lisa

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

You said it best

[@dianexoxo8]

Indeed

[@folkloreevermore2797]

Of course YG limited their potentials. After they quit their solo deals with YG, the girls got jobs left and right, whether it's reality show, music, drama, etc. It's hilarious that our theory(blinks) about them being restricted by yg were all true. Lmao😂

[@vixxexo6855]

I always felt Lisa was really passionate about music. The way she always gave her everything in performances. I always felt Lisa and Rosé enjoyed being idols the most.

[@killbethy]

The only issue I can possibly see is that Lisa's endorsements and non-music related activity has still been exponentially more successful than her solo music career post-YG so far. That's something that can obviously still turn around with one new song or older one gaining popularity or viarlity. But right now, she is working with the absolute best (and most expensive) songwriters, MV directors, and PR teams out there. But these people are equally picky about who they will work with too. If her music career doesn't pick up a bit, it might start limiting who she can work with. That also doesn't mean she can't have great songs or videos from lesser producers, etc., but right now, marketing those names (and collaborators like Rosalia), is a big part of her solo marketing. And for the sake of ALL the members, I hope YG doesn't call in the group activity part of their nonexclusive contract when any of their solo careers are taking off. Depending on the contract terms, having to drop their solo music activities to take 1 1/2 - 2 years for group promotions again could hurt a lot.

[@nougat75]

I agree, Lisa is very good at rebranding! With her songs Rockstar and New Woman she announces, even from the title itself, how she wants to be seen and what new image she wants to build. It worked well for me. I didn't have any particular expectations for her solo career as just a casual Blackpink listener, but when the songs were released I immediately took interest. I started seeing her as popstar material. The quality of the music videos also show her great ambition. I am definitely looking forward to her future musical projects. For now, New Woman is on repeat!

[@mariasol1545]

I think dating Frederic has also helped Lisa understand western culture more, which may sound strange to white ppl but, living in Asia makes you unaware of what ppl think its popular in the west (for example: jyp thinking VCHA would succeed)

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,,,,,,

[@sofypi7493]

In your dreams

[@sharaineroberts8537]

It amaze me how much people (fans/non fans) feel they know what is best for artists. I love music and appreciate all artists who put up with the BS for choosing that career. With that said, I am happy for Lisa. Whether she focuses on KPOP or Western industries doesn't matter matter to me. Since fans support the artist, the artist should work in the market that will give the most support. That's my opinion.

[@R2Mw19]

If she is happy with each song or production then it worth it to me. Actually any idol/artist.

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

Yeah, the message to her from her haters (mostly Kpop fans of rival groups, rival Kpop idols or even "solo stan" fans of other members of BP) can be summarized like this: "Hey, Lisa, we hate when you are successful. We're always looking for 'reasons' to criticize you -- even if we have to spend hours going through your videos looking for problems and then editing them to falsely make you look bad. Most of all, every time that you get more popularity or better results than our faves, it makes us so mad...so very, very angry! So...why don't you follow the career advice that we give you? Do you know how disappointing it is when you ignore our advice? We're just giving you constructive criticism because we want what's best for you. Really. It's true. You're not supposed to be successful. You'll be happier if you are less successful."

[@R2Mw19]

@@TEAM__POSEID0N Yikes. Always amazes me that someone spends so much time and energy to be hateful. For me, I think she is a capable adult that can manage her life. Fans are out of control.

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,,,,

[@ShootingStarStudio]

What is wrong with me, on one hand I’m so sick of Blackpink having their own galaxy of drama but on the other, I keep popping my popcorn and thinking “gimme the tea”

[@PinkNintendoDuo87]

As juicy as celebrity gossip may be, it’s sometimes not worth getting involved (even directly). These bitter and jealous fans/non-fans can suck it! Saying this as a veteran K-pop fan who mainly likes BLACKPINK and BTS. Heck, you could even say that Jennie, Rosé, and Lisa are my biases within said girl group.

[@ShootingStarStudio]

@@PinkNintendoDuo87 I can count the amount of times I’ve gotten into celebrity gossip/drama on one hand. I listen to it, I giggle at how bored people are, and I go about my day. I have bills to pay and schoolwork to finish, celebrity drama doesn’t help with that. I don’t get involved unless it affects my life directly, and it usually doesn’t.

[@PinkNintendoDuo87]

@@ShootingStarStudio To elaborate on the hate BLACKPINK has been receiving, I think a fair amount of them are just downright petty. Why can’t there be 2 globally successful groups side by side (especially concerning BLACKPINK and BTS)? Just because K-pop is gaining more recognition outside of Asia, it’s not guaranteed all the artists will succeed in such regions. Even acts like TWICE (who happen to have non-Asian fanbases) still mainly cater to the Asian market.

[@ketakikhobragade7168]

​@@PinkNintendoDuo87 twice marketing statergy isn't as strong as blackpink and bts though

[@ShootingStarStudio]

@@ketakikhobragade7168 that’s cuz JYP can’t market for shit or play the long game. Much as I love Twice, I feel like they lost their identity as a group. Up until Alcohol Free, they had a distinctive cutesy concept. It all went downhill after that. The same thing happened to Itzy, only much faster.

[@rowanjoy419]

Actually I think this problem is deeper than that, thanks to how the music industry is build, people like Lisa were marked with a brand or a image and people fell in love with that image, no with the real Lisa, same with Jennie, Rose and Jisoo. Why I think this, because I was not shock that Lisa went in this direction, I thought it was totally natural for her as she has the biggest fandom on blackpink, considering that she was able to learn Korean and Chinese so she can be a star in those countries, how someone could even possibly think that she would not practice her english with the purpose of no only be able to connect with their international fans but actually because she wants to go into the the western market as well.

[@nonamenosurname6127]

it hit me that Lisa is well aware of her situation as a soloist who comes from kpop once she dropped Rockstar teaser images. The photoshoot, and makeup were highlighting her natural skin tone which made me realize that we are not going to be fed by company but the girls are gonna be portrayed they wanted.

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

And her eyes not being 10X bigger than it actually was. I love that she is free from that mold

[@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy]

Tbh i did not expect Lisa to be this active on the music and when i saw rockstar’s teaser i was like meh… cause i didn’t any expectations for Lisa. But once i’ve heard rockstar i was pleasantly surprised and do not even talk to me about new woman because it is on my top5 most listened songs this month ! Unlike these haters i was happy that she exceeded my expectations and sincerely hope the best for her in her music ventures!!

[@donttalk372]

People don't seem to understand that not everyone who has talent deserves a seat at the table. CHARISMA sells moooore than talent. This is why Rihanna and Selena Gomez (the not so talented crew) are one of the most popular and richest artists, past their peers even. Charisma, beauty, and good management and a good team of writers too. Lisa's charisma and talent in dance and somewhat rap coupled with her juicy juicy management team who understand business is why Lisa deserves to expand to the global market. And i am VERY excited for what she has to offer. New woman changed my mind and i am here for it.

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

Am seated for what she has to offer

[@donttalk372]

@@Mitchelle-hb7wk me too!!😀

[@IceQueen975]

....you did NOT just say Rihanna is "the not so talented crew".

[@ugotmejumpinlike]

@@IceQueen975well yes. Rihanna cannot sing she’s famous as a pop star from good management and “it factor”

[@itoo4884]

@@IceQueen975 She was always a better dancer than singer.

[@dokessezeaka5159]

I was genuinely pleasantly surprised with new woman. That song really brought lisa into the pop spotlight for me personally, it’s on replay constantly, and I hope she really continues in that direction, as well as with her vocals.

[@user-tr4qh4sr3z]

the best solution for lisa's situation? learn the western standard and match it if you want to appeal to western audience. that korean standard of what an artist should be is exceptionally different from western

[@fixxmymind]

what in ur observation is the western standard?

[@R2Mw19]

I agree. I’m not sure how this is going to work out for her.

[@tnlkb6115]

Why should she have to choose? Why can't she do both?

[@HarrietWanjau]

I think people are being too harsh on her but that's not new. For a beginner she's doing amazing and she can take criticism she deems fit to help her improve her career. She's bold and isn't afraid of taking risks instead of playing it safe like the other members. That's a mentality that's going to take her far. And I hope she kills it in white lotus so people can understand how multi talented she is

[@R2Mw19]

@@tnlkb6115 it seems she is already getting some backlash for whatever perceived traitorous actions. I vote she does what she wants! Does she have to define herself as just this not that? Doesn’t her heritage even speak against boxing herself into one category? I wish her all the success, I agree why does she have to choose? But I gota say haters may drive her one way or the other imo.

[@overthinkingkpop]

Your point about Kpop stans being so quick to toss Lisa out hadn't occurred to me previously. Thanks for bringing that up.

[@amiyarose9140]

I'm looking forward to watching Lisa in "The White Lotus" and hope she has a substantial role.

[@MariaMagano-zw1dl]

The thumbnail is so gorgeous!!! ❤

[@user-bk5ei7sv8i]

💖

[@nightappple]

Lisa really surprised everyone by playing a wild card that no one expected, as you mentioned. Up until now, with songs like "Money," "Lalisa," and even "Rockstar," she seemed to be stuck in the box people had placed her in-acknowledging her success as a K-pop star but also criticizing her for not reaching higher or producing better music. It was as if they were content to see her stay in that box but also hating on her at the same time? But with "New Woman," she’s shattered that perception, and now it's hard for people to grasp how she’s evolving beyond their expectations. It’s become clear that they never truly wanted her to grow, as you can see from the reactions on social media. They can no longer argue that she only makes mediocre music, but they're hesitant to admit that she has a real shot at breaking into the Western industry. It's like the available 'slots' were already predetermined, and now she’s seen as being too ambitious. I don’t really stan Blackpink, but I’m definitely rooting for Lisa. She embodies the true underdog spirit. She deserves her shot, and sure, she'll make mistakes and poor musical choices here and there, but that’s part of the journey. She’s going to adapt and grow, and that’s her real strength.

[@mariasol1545]

tbh even yg must be suprised... I feel like everyone thought Jennie would be the biggest star out of the 4

[@kunpunko]

girl i think you are reaching.. people were disappointed with rockstar because it was just the same shit she’s been doing that has zero substance, and because it was her new solo debut outside of blackpink people were expecting her to never grow, ofc she proved us wrong with new woman, but i don’t think people are some haters who never wanted her to succeed in the first place just because they were shocked she showed us a new side of her.

[@kunpunko]

@@mariasol1545jennie didn’t even debut yet?

[@kpop_mode_on]

I'm happy Lisa is doing what she loves and going farther then the kpop industry :)

[@jungwons]

the title made me think youre the one calling her greedy so i was so hesitant to click on it haha, but then i trusted that you'd have some kind of logic and gave it a chance.

[@Lia-yu6qc]

Same. I was so ready to defend Lisa in the comments, only for her to bring out exactly what i would say to Lisa antis and those who don't know better or want to see her fall.

[@kjdfancams1965]

lisa has release music more than all the other three members conbined this year ,kpop stans are surprised she turned out to be the one who releases music the most ,jennie is working music ,rose is stuck in black label so who knows when she gonna release and jisoo decided to focus on her acting career ( and good for her ) its good thing lisa ( and other girls but mostly lisa ) has been having these connections in the american industry ,she is doing a good job ,she is smart and she is a business woman

[@kjdfancams1965]

and tbh she doesnt need to be a good singer to have a music career ,how many celebrities have been making it big with particularly being good singers lol

[@Rubykimstolemyheart]

Bro all blackpink members are releasing songs day by day and they all have connections in American industry as well it's not only her😅

[@kjdfancams1965]

@@Rubykimstolemyheart i mean yeah but the other members have the support of the korean gp ,lisa can put her career on the korean gp

[@throwaway3286]

Lisa has star power she might not be a great singer but she’s very intriguing and you’d be lying if you didn’t admit it. I could never get into BP but her and Jennie always drew me in with their solo stuff. I’m so excited to see what the ladies do outside the kpop world which has really put them in a box. BUT these Korean artists have to get used to performing without the camera tricks and fancy stages, America is simply behind in that regard and they need to adapt and be better because they’ll be judged 10x worse. She’s going to have to start at the bottom when chasing global stardom, and I think she’ll be able to achieve her goal she has the IT quality.

[@throwaway3286]

And Rockstar is such a bop I was expecting it to be a much bigger hit….

[@hakunayotataslol]

These expectations Lisa and Tyla are facing could make good collaboration writing material lmao

[@dianexoxo8]

The hate they get is stupid I actually think them being solo is better for them and as an army I never hated them I just thought their music is mediocre because their agency limited them but now I can say I actually really enjoy what Lisa is doing and I only hope for more from all the members and to see them thrive and succeed

[@WinningBlink]

Nah its just YG being YG when we expect a little bit more but YG won’t give it-

[@kunpunko]

yup, i’m excited for them. it seems like they are actually branching out and doing something unique that they’ve wanted with their music, something yg would never give them or give literally any of their groups lmao.

[@markigirl2757]

im so happy for lisa getting this massive and so far im enjoying her going beyond kpop!

[@Ruchi5297]

Like what exactly is she supposed to do?? Sit at her home and make dance videos for Lili films?? That's it?? I don't think many would have cared if seven would have won the vma instead of rockstar. Honestly good for her that she is everywhere. She is using her momentum to gain more. Even I was shocked seeing her everywhere but good for her. She is playing smart. Blackpink has always catered to the west so now when they are going solo ofcourse they would go there. Or else what was even the point. Why would lisa not even try ?? Why would she be stupid enough to let all these years go to waste??

[@LovelyKissess]

Exactly

[@PinkNintendoDuo87]

Adding my 2 cents on BLACKPINK catering to the Western market, I also wouldn’t be surprised if Jisoo becomes a bridge between the West and Asia in the acting realm. Despite being the most “Asia-centric” member of the group, I don’t think she’s totally opposed to offers outside of Asia. Maybe Jisoo will be a part of the wave of Asian actors succeeding in the West; only time will tell.

[@Multifandomgirl1499]

This is one of your best videos yet. Keep it up!

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I'm just a casual fan, but I never doubted Lisa's ability to become a solo star. I'm really surprised at these expectations "people" have, which are negative. "She can't go further because I think her vocals aren't strong enough. End of discussion." It's as if they think a performer's skill set cannot, or will not, be improved on. I am respectfully wondering whether this is a cultural thing in Korea? Or is it another symptom of toxic fans? Or is this coming from international fans? Thank you for the video! ❤

[@boomlove3454]

Your video made me respect Lisa 10x more !

[@ab-ab1126]

I think what made ppl underestimate her is yg's limitations, she had vocal training under one of the most known mentors in Thailand for years not to mention all the competitions she won before joining yg, getting full As as a trainee too, but he limited her to being a rapper and put her in a box she eventually became insecure coming out of, as she previously stated and was obvious in numerous times during her career, so her leaving yg and her constant ambition to better herself as she still finds herself lacking again as stated by her, gives her the push that she needs to cement herself, as for ppl expecting more, realistically she's not taking anything by storm just by two songs, it takes a little time and much more promotions which she's not working on for now too. And i think rockstar and new woman are great for a begining especially new woman, and for those who criticise the lyricism for rockstar i think it was just a statement piece for what to come and how she's breaking whatever expectations and or limitations that were forced on her, and hating her for singing about herself is also weird some of the biggest artists rn do that and are loved for it, so why is she criticized exactly except for fun

[@cindyfern]

People want their idols to grow and succeed, but are mad when they become popular and try to do other things. I've always said that I like the old kanye, but I do believe that kanye did the right choice by doing other genres and styles in rap. YG Did a great job with allowing their artists to become artists. When Lisa is with BP, she plays a persona and is color of BP. As a solo, she's herself.

[@klsoaps2209]

This is the most unbiased take on Lisa I’ve heard. It I completely agree.❤❤

[@sharolet_dolly4630]

For real.

[@WinningBlink]

Ikrrr

[@Caspian_Xx]

5:38 , that is the case with most controversies nowadays , it's like 20 people will be talking an idol doing something in an online forum and content deprived ktubers would be like " netizens spark their anger towards for "

[@spikey310]

*cough* bts forever *cough*

[@Rubykimstolemyheart]

​@@spikey310keep coughing keep choking😂

[@Dalgomismine1]

I love Lisa doing something YG wouldn’t do like the new woman concept or rockstar’s “Japanese” lyric. YG really held them back which I’m realizing now and I’m proud of her and with her third single in October I’m very proud of what’s she’s done ❤

[@mariasol1545]

what do you mean by "wouldn't let the Japanese lyric"?

[@dokessezeaka5159]

@@mariasol1545it’s the fact that shes not fluent in Japanese. Whenever they did Japanese songs she would always rap in English, so i think it’s a call to her rapping in “Japanese “ in bps Japanese songs

[@chengetaimubaiwa2239]

I guess this explains why we don't see Jackson and Mark from Got7 venturing in the k-pop industry

[@treasureawingura2630]

Hollywood is brutal and if Lisa is ready for westen audience she has to be ready for heat because there many talented people there who can do more will criticized her for any wrong..

[@jenniepeachesenchantix]

She can do whatever she wants idgaf

[@r.a715]

Am not really into K-pop world but to me Lisa did really good I mean REALLY GOOD one of the best performances in the K-pop or at least better then blackpink VMAs performance

[@mitchierainbow7353]

I'm so glad that someone has spoken against the alleged "lip singing" allegations. It's not just in fancams, even in the official audio you can see that Lisa is singing, the backtrack is just louder. This whole mess proves to me just how quick people are to spread misinformation just because it is someone they don't like. i have been very surprised by Lisa and i'm excited for her future and what she can bring to the table, years ago in their Netflix documentary, Teddy once mentioned Lisa as a wildcard and now more than ever, if Teddy has gotten anything right, it's what he said about Lisa. I'm rooting for her. Everyone now wants to attribute her success to her looks and her relationship but anyone who isnt looking at her with hate in their heart knows that Lisa has been hustling(all the blackpink members have) to get to where she is, i hope she keeps working on her artistry and proving people wrong.

[@xxheart_breakerxx8732]

Is it really not lipsyncing, when your backtrack drowns out your singing?

[@mitchierainbow7353]

@@xxheart_breakerxx8732 lip singing is moving your lips while music is playing with no sound coming from your throat, it doesn't matter if the backtrack was overpowering her we can still see and hear that she was singing so no it's not lip singing. It's not just Lisa, I saw a similar thing with Sabrina Carpenter, the backtrack was loud for her as well but we could still hear her singing.

[@NatalieMarie917]

@@mitchierainbow7353 it’s not “lip singing,” it’s “lip syncing.” Maybe your opinion will change when you really think about what that means/implies. Many people (including people in the music industry) still consider it a form of lip syncing when singers just sing quietly or turn their mic volume way down so the backing track overshadows it during parts they are not confident in singing live. They say it’s very rare nowadays for artists to only be moving their mouths-they know that that looks way too obvious because you can’t silently replicate some of the movements that happen when you are actually singing.

[@mitchierainbow7353]

@@NatalieMarie917 how would my opinion change when I think about what it implies? Lisa could still be heard singing.

[@NatalieMarie917]

@@mitchierainbow7353 because “syncing” has never required that there is only one source of sound occurring

[@rae.___.]

I kind of disagree with your thinking that most people are criticising lisa winning the category... maybe thats true for some people but I have seen many who think the same as me that Lisa should have been nominated for another category not kpop bc the music she's putting out is not kpop and hence is not a representation of the genre. And not to mention she is trying to break out of the kpop mold and trying out something new outside kpop, this feels like undermining her efforts personally. Also wasn't tyla given an award for best afrobeat when she represents amapiano? feels like the problem is on the vmas so it doesn't make sense to hate Lisa for it

[@mitchierainbow7353]

Then you have a relatively calm timeline because from what I saw there was a lot of hate being thrown Lisa's way for something that was the VMAs fault, it's not just everglowup's theory, people did attack Lisa and their arguments were very strange as highlighted in the video.

[@rae.___.]

@@mitchierainbow7353 thats sad to hear, I didn't any of those comments but it is believable.. I only saw people attacking her for 'lip syncing' and refusing to listen to anyone who said otherwise and talked about the fancams

[@romacon6295]

@@rae.___. Here's the thing, there were a lot of people outside of the sphere of kpop who said lisa was lip syncing and in some part it seemed obvious, but i don`t know maybe it`s becauuse i`ve been bombarded with clips from BP year long tour that to ME she seemed normal.... this was another performance for her just the same as before where in some part she sings, other she dances, others she lets the audio take control because THAT is normal in kpop specially in BP who had a whole good year worth of training in this... but from an outsiders perspective it can seem as though she is lip syncing the whole thing. And as far as the hate online specially in X began because Lilies and blinks started draggin other groups like LSF, Straykids, and BTS into the mix claiming they also lip sync... so you can guess how that went.

[@R2Mw19]

It’s my understanding from really trying to make sense of these awards and voting thing that 1) the artist/agency submits(with the fee) a song to be considered for a category. So the artist picks the category for application. 2) only from those applicants can the nomination come. So there may have been the best song ever but they didn’t submit so they are not considered at all. 3) then nominations are made and voting and judging from there. This is how Lisa’s song got nominated when it hadn’t been out that long. Just for an example Lisa and her team loved song X. They can release song X on Thursday and on Friday submit for nomination. As long as the song has been released by the deadline for submission. Doesn’t say how long. If it doesn’t get nominated they are just out that submission fee and we would know either way. That’s also why some categories have many nominees and some few. If there are 6 nomination spots but only 4 submit than those 4 are nominated- that’s it. Hope that makes sense.

[@xxheart_breakerxx8732]

@@rae.___. Surely, it's not Lisa's fault in which category the song is nominated. If I was an agency and wanted an award for my artist, I'd submit for any category that would make any sense. In regards of her presentation she is still kpop tho. I think what people are mainly critizing is how did she win against Jungkook's seven when that song is gigantic and army and Jungkook's solo fanbase are known to be passionate voters. But that's on VMAs, not Lisa The only valid criticism against Lisa herself should be the performance. It was boring. The choreography didn't hit hard, she didn't create special moments, 50% she was just "walking" over the stage really weirdly. And is it really not lipsyncing, when your backtrack is so loud, it completely drowns out your mic? 😅 No matter how much you love an artist, you have to admit when a performance was bad. You don't have to talk about it. But praising an artist for a bad performance just makes other people taking them less serious. And Lisa's performance just wasn't up to par that evening. Heard it someone say in another comment. If you want to cater to the western standard, you have to adapt to the western standard. They want to see a live performance when they watch a love performance

[@cherryblink19826]

I've never seen Western media outlets call someone k-flop 😢I feel bad for Lisa. Performance was not that bad to call her a flop and say "who invited her" 😏

[@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable]

That writer is army and you know army has 13yr old nibbi brains

[@florencembah2626]

They were just being mean, she popular enough to be invited, even influencer go there why can't Lisa go?

[@mitchierainbow7353]

You can always tell when someone has a kpop stan Twitter account. That "journalist writer" cannot and should not be taken seriously

[@Hernymiyday]

Also, Lisa isn't vocally limited, I've seen her display vocals in DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO and HOPE NOT, others too see it only if they just want to hate for no reason.

[@miminkotube]

@@Hernymiyday having good vocals once in a while does not mean a singer isn't vocally limited, being vocally limited refers to vocal range and techniques

[@Hernymiyday]

@@miminkotube Well what they are talking about isn't range here they are talking about her vocals generally my love.

[@Hernymiyday]

​@@miminkotube Well I'd like to say she wasn't trained well vocally as she is a rapper and a dancer in her group, so she doesn't have to train to sing much, but as far as I know YG every member from a group should be able to sing(No?). And I'd say she has quite a bit of vocal technique, and I'm also happy she is starting to add vocals to what she is mostly known for. Also I wish every member of BLACKPINK massive success, coz only by wishing others good will you be successful too.

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

I feel that if dey trained her more she could do better vocally​@@Hernymiyday

[@Hernymiyday]

@@Mitchelle-hb7wk Exactly ❤️

[@vikctoryan15]

I'm genuinely rooting for Lisa because of all the racism and xenophobia she has faced. I just want her to win. However, as a American, Rockstar was the worse choice for a lead single. Most people in the west dont care about kpop. It's usually just us kpop fans and the brands that want to capitalize off us. What most foreigners dont understand is that being popular in the mainstream media does not equate to being popular among the general public. In the west an artist's success is measured by the general publics love for their music eg Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Beyonce, etc. The only time a kpop act has ever genuinely captured the general public was BTS with Dynamite and never again after that despite several attempts. The general public is very xenophobic to kpop artists because there are a lot of preconceived notions about kpop being for kids, etc. So it is mostly tolerated as opposed to actually accepted. Rockstar cemented that vision of LISA being just a kpop idol for many. This is why people are not taking her seriously. Lisa should have debuted with song that was completely 180 from kpop. Another thing collaborating with western artists wont help validate kpop acts either because most of these western acts are struggling themselves which is why New Woman didnt do much. That being said, Lisa should've only performed New Woman at the VMAs with Anitta. Sing live, do more western choreography and showcase her sex appeal. At the very least, she would have gotten a much more positive review. Lisa needs a whole new sound and image. There is a reason why western artists who were in a band or were child stars go through extremes to be taken seriously. Look at Miley Cyrus, Harry Styles, Sabrina Carpenter, etc. Its not impossible for her to succeed but she really needs an American manager that understands the American market because the people that she is currently working with clearly dont understand at all.

[@yaseminfresa9877]

This video reeks of another level of victimization of Lisa when she has clearly always had the most fandom support and hype. Plus I feel like you jumped the gun and said that she was already the most successful member when Rosé and Jennie hadn’t even released anything yet.. Also heavily touched up studio vocals really don’t prove she is a competent vocalist when her live singing is pretty much nonexistent. I think the recent releases actually showed that the so-called popularity of Lisa in the west is overblown and her support and hype mainly lies in Asia. I get that Lisa is your fav but I usually find your videos pretty fair and objective. This one definitely felt very biased

[@marcelinekey]

@@yaseminfresa9877 I felt the same.

[@pheyie]

You spilled facts after facts after facts. I want to like this a thousand times more.

[@ro-zeea.8734]

I have tbh when I saw the subject of your video I was a bit hesitant to click and watch or even listen. Here I thought "here we go again another hater going at it..." i was pleasantly surprised and glad that I clicked. I do agree with your assessment with Lisa and SK. From the beginning I was hoping that she would go into the western market and I'm glad she did. I've always had this image of Lisa being in a western movie or doing a western type album, which has. We can argue about the VMAs but its all in the past now so, its a moot point. She still learning the ropes and she is learning fast. Her haters will hate no matter what she does and honestly, I don't think she cares anymore. She has learned that she will never be fully accepted in SK, no matter how hard she tries. It is sad to see, because I truly believe she has fully accepted them but not them of her. Plus her being from SEA doesn't help much. Xenophobia runs deep in SK as much they want to deny it. Out of all 4 girls, once her contract expired, she hit the road running she and hasn't stopped. She sure said it herself, I am paraphrasing, don't tell people your dreams, show them instead. I am excited to see what she has planned for the future. Never underestimate the quiet one. Thank you for being objective and rather rational unlike others.

[@Gelllynnee]

@@ro-zeea.8734 💯💯💯💯💯

[@darkchocolatemuffins9727]

It's absolutely disgusting that people want Lisa to comply with their expectations of her future works. Just because she is famously known for being the main dancer doesn't mean she's not allowed to explore other parts of the entertainment industry. This is why I appreciate the fact that YG didn't announce any specific postions for their new girl group Babymonster. They're not hindered by a label unlike most aritists in the kpop industry and are free to explore whatever aspect they'd like even though they're seen to be strongest in a specific role.

[@Huskyplayz_2]

@@darkchocolatemuffins9727 I like your thinking, baby monster haven't got any places yet, we have even seen examples of it in their music that other Members tried vocal or like they put Ahyeon to rap even tho she is one of bm best singers. I love baby monster and I will forever

[@hafsah_alee]

I don’t even Stan blackpink or have I gone back to relisten to her recent releases If I see shorts with the recent releases I stay to listen to it, that’s how far my support went. But I’m really happy Lisa is doing her best to not give up on her career. Honestly from the things I’ve seen from bp concerts, Lisa always gives her all and I respect her for that . Jennie and rosé (no shade to them) seem like they didn’t want to be there. Jisoo… honestly should just focus on her acting more cuz this music industry will never be able to be satisfied with her progress. Lisa for me was always someone who strives for more, someone who genuinely loved her art. I hope she ignores the unreasonable hates and goes at her own pace, releasing her type of music. You guys need to understand she needs to explore outside her box, you don’t just expect a flawless song. Yg has made them idols not artists. Let her take her time, even if it means releasing songs you don’t like , your opinion isn’t everyone else’s. There are ppl out there who enjoy her music and I do too (after a few listens😂😂😂) honestly rockstar wasn’t my top Lisa song but ppl enjoyed it, no need to be bitter. But her new song is chefs kiss to me. It was a great song .

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

I love your video And to add many ppl predicted lisa to be a dance teacher,house wife and a photographer,it was sad she literally said dont tell them show them

[@WinningBlink]

I’m sorry housewife??I can’t with these predictions bro😭

[@Mitchelle-hb7wk]

@@WinningBlink like I was shocked and it wasn't even coming from anti,but her so called fans

[@WinningBlink]

@@Mitchelle-hb7wk they are not fans pls no don’t call them that

[@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable]

@@WinningBlink when fred and Lisa rumor came out all the k-popies said now she is going to retire and be a housewife 🤦

[@WinningBlink]

@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable this is why I don't keep with the unnecessary drama or fanwars or theories that most kpop stans create... I prefer my peaceful corner

[@ladymoon7327]

Rosé Olympics when? 😭

[@rftg1793]

Same 😭

[@stayinneverland]

No fr, I hope soon 😭😭

[@pr8941]

the editing is amazingg I'm so seated for KISS ME which will probably be released next month

[@krishnabali5054]

It's not just with Lisa but k-pop fans really don't want any member of the group to Breakout from the kpop bubble . Because many kpop fans be like they are still kpop . I think kpop fans need to accept this that the girls are going out of k-pop industry now . Specially Lisa and Rosé.

[@Asdfghjkl-h1v]

Rose?? She literally in black label which is yg subsidiary. Lisa was said thay because of herself. She opened her popstore in korea.

[@afbahjfa]

people just dont want lisa to succeed tbh. because of blackpinks massive success they expect lisa to be a perfect solo artist straight away. what people fail to realise is that the vmas was lisas first ever major event as a solo artist, shes not going to perfect straight off the bat. going from a group to a soloist is such a massive transition and, in my opinion, shes smashing it so far.

[@MMU_U]

Finally someone speaks about, I have been a blackoink fans sice middle school (but never acknowledge the fan wars) and I was completely shoock reading coments about her recently, like why are you so angry at her succeeding? Honestly moving into the western market is a smart move, she has always become viral outside the kpop bubble, that's how I get to into blackpink in the first place, I was not into kpop and kwen nothing about it, but I watch her Swala performance and that's how I was introduced to Blackpink

[@WinningBlink]

To be honest, I didn’t have that much expectations for the BP members just the basic ones that you mentioned in the vid. I actually expected Lisa to not really be a K-pop artist. If I got that much criticism for my nationality and just having poor vocal abilities(that weren’t even showcased for goodness sake) I would venture out rather than in. I was a bit shocked that Lisa is the most active soloist in BP as like many I expected it to be Rosie but this shows how much YG has been stifling Lisa’s and the others’ potentials to become successful. People say Lisa acts as if she is still under YG but clearly it because look at how many songs she’d been releasing!

[@comatose3788]

Given what this girl has gone through.. All I can say is enjoy your freedom and congratulations.

[@jminecraftstyle752]

you ate with this pov i fear. i didnt relaize people had an issue with lisas performance. i thought she was gonna show out and really give the locals what they are missing. but she didnt and thats ok, i think it matched the nights vibe so i have no complaints. im excited to see her grow and surpass the kpop sphere. its sad to see so many fans wishing on her downfall

[@4niasomnia573]

To me it’s not so much her performance, it’s just that in comparison to the other acts, like Sabrina Carpenter who basically turned it into a Sabrina Carpenter concert and Chappell Roan who gagged all the gays (particularly the sword and armor lesbians), it just wasn’t as strong. And that’s okay. It might have just been nerves. I do expect that she’ll succeed once she gets more experience with an international market.

[@verasambience]

I thought her performance was amazing! What was bad about it?

[@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable]

​@@verasambiencecause she didn't follow the choreo much

[@Hernymiyday]

This whole hate is what stopped many teenagers from following their dreams as a Kpop artist, the more they think about it the more they get scared of hate, this even speaks to me , coz I also get scared sometimes about how I will live as a Kpop entity, but these days seeing artists not care about hates anymore (since it's becoming boring), I have had this affirmation I'm tan skinned which will probably cause hatred as it's what Kpop toxic fans do. But I do not care. I wish everyone well so I can make it in life too. I take each and every since Kpop artist as people you can learn from if you're chasing the same thing as them.

[@gabriellesamuda4457]

I've never been this early to an everglow up video!

[@dj.og_09]

When are u going to release Rosé bp Olympic. You have been making us wait for over a year now.

[@jannetjane]

I actually realized that we didn’t know the girls when they were under yg. And I’m so happy seeing them happy and releasing music that they would like to. Also I think It’s early to say about other girls just because Lisa released her music first. They’re all preparing! And I think it was obvious that rose release her music sooner than others because she write and produce by her own, she mentioned that, and ofc it requires more time

[@missalexandram]

I don't agree with Lisa winning BEST Kpop just because for me the songs nominated there should be in Korean. The first time she won, that's fine cuz the song was in Korean but this time I don't agree since the song is fully in English. I think VMA should make it much clearer and just focus on Korean songs for that category.

[@Bobo-ml4th]

Jungkooks song "seven" was also in english. I bet you wouldnt have an issue with him winning the VMAs. Be honest, its because she is Thai.

[@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable]

If seven would have won which sounds nothing like k-pop with no Korean lyrics it is a average pop music you all wouldn't have problem with it

[@missalexandram]

@@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable I didn't bring any artist in what I just said. I just talked about it in this perspective. For me personally, I wouldn't have agreed with Seven winning it either. But I am not going to go on the internet and make post to bash the artist even thos it it VAMs fault for not making stuff clear. I think they consider kpop any artist that is based in South Korea. Also, one more thing, Lisa's music sounds nothing like kpop that's why I think it would have suited a different category. But we should see what's going to come in the future.

[@mimydiallo]

I root for her; she’s clearly more hungry than her counterparts and more talented.

[@kunpunko]

she’s great at performing, great at dancing, and has good, charismatic rapping flow. she really needs to work on her vocals though if she wants to make it in the western market with more vocal heavy songs. she has the potential for it, a pretty tone and good pitch, but she needs to work on the basics of her technique if she wants to be taken more seriously in the western market. i’m rooting for her to improve.

[@manali727]

The volumns of an artist's mic and backtrack is all according to what the artist want. Nothing is by default on stage. Just putting it out there.

[@florencembah2626]

There's also the issue of who makes the stage decision, it might not be her cause some label are controlling.

[@riddhimatiwari390]

Lisa is a star and people should never deny that. She is a smart and intelligent woman, who is getting what she deserves.

[@artmsangel]

ive never been a fan of bp's music (nothing against them personally) but i LOVE lisa and i feel excitement for what she will do next ... i feel that she is opening herself up to a wider audience and that is a really smart move for her career!!! there is this creativity and passion from her that i really admire. idk how anyone could dislike her shes so fucking cool

[@Majesticqueen1997]

Billboard doesn’t matter because it’s a subjective thing, cosmopolitan ranked her 2nd best performance and she received a lot of praises too and it’s normal to receive hate , she can learn and do better next time, love your video I’m waiting for the tyla one 💕

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

If idols already trained,why arent they already good?

[@daliakayungilo3272]

Oh I would LOVE to understand the whole issue with Black-Americans vs Tyla. I'm African. Where I'm from, the majority just care about the art. Their attitude is almost.....we don't care for it. Just sit , listen to the damn songs and move on😂

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

Tyla is amazing

[@nonamenosurname6127]

we know that it was YG's stagnant formula, sound and concept that gave Blackpink girls those images as soloists. and now they are out of YG and the company is not pulling the strings from the back, all we are getting is from the girls themselves. Every choice they make is mainly made by themselves or with their team to benefit their career not to benefit he company's sales or stocks.

[@vikctoryan15]

I hate to say this but as an American, the general public finds Jennie very boring especially her fashion. Everytime she does a red carpet she is always overlooked outside of fan spaces. If you dont believe me then compare her style to other people like Rihanna, Zandaya, Cardi B or even the newly emerging Sabrina Carpenter who are constantly praised for their style. Jennie's fashion does not stand out in the west and often fades into the background. If you check the top fashion vlog, blogs & pages that focus on celebrities, Jennie is nowhere to be found so I honestly never understood why people thought that she had what it took to be a fashion girl in the west. Western & Eastern fashion taste are very very very different.

[@Rubykimstolemyheart]

Tell me that you're a blackpink hater without telling me haha first hate comment on lisa then jennie😂😂keep hating nobody cares blackpink have huge fanbase all around the world including america

[@Rubykimstolemyheart]

And the fact american fans made blackpink this much successful is undeniable❤😊

[@vikctoryan15]

@@Rubykimstolemyheart I am sorry if this comes off as mean but that was not my intention. I genuinely don't hate bp, I never said that bp weren't successful or denied the strength of US bp fans. But as large as the kpop fans are in America are, the general public out number us by a mile. In America an artist's popularity is dependent on their fanbase but longevity and respectability comes from the gp. If you are so stuck inside you're kpop bubble to believe me An American kpop living in NYC, then do you own research. I have been a fan girl for many years before kpop. I support Michael Jackson, Justin Bieber, Big Time Rush, Taylor Swift, The Vamps, R5, One Direction, 5 SOS and many kpop groups. I see the difference in the way that the gp interacts with these acts especially one Direction as a group vs solo and it pales in comparison to any kpop act. There is a reason why kpop & other Asian musics don't stay on the main charts for a long time. Kpop fans will push a comeback song to its peak and then that song would free fall and disappear is a week or 2 becausethe gp arent listening. Now compare that to a song by Afrobeat or Latin singers. Their music stays on the charts a lot longer without any die hard fan base giving it life support and that's because the gp is listening. There are 333mil ppl in the US. The gp isn't even listening to r&b as much as it used to anymore and is slowly turning back to country and alternative. There is a reason why we dont have a kpop category at the Grammys yet despite the number of kpop groups that have mainstream popularity and submit every year. You can be mad at me but it doesn't make the truth any less true. Kpop & Asian companies know how to attract fangirls like me, I'm 28 by the way, but they don't understand the general public. The general public knows about kpop due the visibility that we fans have given it but the gp does not listen or care about kpop. For example, When a song by bad bunny, Taylor swift, Harry Styles, Sabrina Carpenter, tyla or beyonce, etc. come the radio at my grandparent's house they are familiar with it on some level but never kpop songs. It is only us the fans and the brands who seek to profit from kpop fan's loyalty like the grammys who constantly nomination bts for views but never give them an award, who keep kpop alive in the west. Xenophobia and racism is very strong in the US gp against asians and there are a lot of cultural differences that kpop companies haven't accounted for. Fashion in the east is different from the west. That conservative Korean style is considered boring to us because we dont dress like that anymore. I definitely think the girls have the potential to win over the gp but they haven't yet, no kpop act has and that's a fact.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

Very well put

[@frenchgirl5878]

It's been a while since I've looked at your videos and GODDAMN you editing style skyrocketed. That's crazy.

[@missgirl3410]

This magazine editing style is WOO

[@daydream8363]

First time when I heard bp songs in COVID period i became their fan instantly, and till date I am only fan of this group because all of them are inspiring especially I love Lisa she is a powerful women ❤❤❤ I'm not into kpop but I like bp ❤

[@stephanie9463]

Saw her on vma, thought she was cute. Watched a few videos. Definitely can improve. I want to see what she will bring out!

[@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable]

She is releasing a new single 'moonlit floor' on 3rd October it's classic should check out

[@dimitrap.8310]

As a casual fan i always felt like lisa had more love for the craft and for being a pop star and a performer. Rose too. Jennie and Jisoo felt over it

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

Feel the same way

[@musanyathi2298]

When Bts was singing in English, it was still kpop lol. Lisa is still as kpop princess. She needs better songwriters and to move away from shallow vapid kpop lyrics if she wants to break into rn'b.

[@spikey310]

New women lyrics are good. Rockstar also isn't THAT bad if you go in depths.

[@daisydroid]

Whether you like it or not, agree with it or not Jenlisa is changing the kpop industry

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

How?

[@JT60613]

I 100% agree with you. Not sure why people don’t understand Lisa’s talent actually. I think all the girls are incredibly talent, and I love the group. But honestly I always thought Jennie was a bit overhyped, even though I love her. Lisa, as you said, has incredible skill to adapt which is one of the most important things in this industry. Plus, in my opinion, after Rosè she’s the most talented of the group, even though it doesn’t always transpire in her vocal skills, it can definitely be seen in her dancing, rapping, stage presence and within her artistry in general. The way she manages to own the stage is extremely important, so I’m not shocked to see her conquering the Western music scene. I hope all the girls achieve whatever they want out of their lives, as they’re genuinely talented. And hopefully these weirdo fans stop putting them against each other. They’re still a group, seemingly friends and probably don’t see each other as competition within the industry

[@tokyodoll7000]

I think what Lisa is going is great, but she is definitely playing it too safe. I do feel like her stage presence lacked a bit at the awards performance but it could’ve been the sing itself and choreo. I would love to see you do a video deep dive on Blackswan tho. there’s so much to unpack and yes I do stan them, but I’d like to hear your pov on nugu groups too in general.

[@tiena6630]

The problem with Lisa's solo career right now is wihtout a doubt her lack of vocal ability. The western market is absolutely booming for talented vocalists like Chapell or Sabrina. Despite her tenure in the music industry, Lisa is very unskilled as a vocalist and that's why we never hear raw, live vocals from her. Everything is either pre-recordered and autotuned out of this world or they just play the backing track over her real vocals. This is fine for a song like "Money", because clearly that song isn't very vocally challenging and more of a hype song for dancing where Lisa can just get away with shouting a few words. She could probably make it work with "Rockstar" as well, but definitely not with her 2 newest releases. The odd thing is, Lisa knows she's not a good vocalist. Why not make songs that focus more or rapping, something she is actually very good at? I don't get it. Making songs out of her skillset is a bad idea imo and her Genius interview exposed why. Her songs are bops, but she can't really perform them live. Western audiences will not vibe with this aspect of her music, I don't think. I would love for her to do more rapping.

[@nonamenosurname6127]

you ate and left no crumbs.

[@robo9439]

She's already released a trailer for the third song! 😊

[@Stargirl0-t1o]

I understand that is awful to see your idol fail because I also experienced this but all of you should open your eyes and see that Lisa is not the most talented celebrity ever and she isn’t even the most talented in Blackpink. I think that Lisa’s new songs are amazing and that she should keep going but also focus on her singing.

[@julianaassis2022]

Only people that were not her fans thought she wouldn’t go for good music solo wise. The occasional listeners, and kpop stans that carry a bit of racist conceptions labeled her as not a star. People saying she needs to prove herself are crazy. I think this was posted before the VS show, but she gave her answer to this kinda BS mindset. Loved it.

[@Asdfghjkl-h1v]

Lisa song are popular but her song are not good songs. New women was good. But rockstar ,lalisa is worst if its not lisa song no one listen to it. Money is average. VS show her popularity ,not best quality as soloist

[@chaesflwrs]

girllll there are rumours that lisa and tyla will collab

[@werr4525]

The fact lisa was negotiating for a multi million dollar contract that would give her full right over her masters and music, and take her trademark back from YG. Establish a management company in singapore, sign a partnership, and shoot an entire series while YG was trying to blame her again and again by releasing headlines on how " the ungrateful non korean was leaving the group" though ultimately all members left will always be hilarious to me. Ls will be releasing her first full album, written by her, in her own agency, will soon headline Global citizen and Victorias secret.😂😂😂

[@MoonMontag]

Absolutely love the analysis. I think New Woman showed a new style to Lisa that fans haven’t seen before. Compared to the rest at this moment in time you can tell that she really was desperate ( in a good way) to be seen as an artist and not just a dancer. I personally am curious to see how her debut EP or album will be like. Since you spoke of it, Speaking of Tzuyu too her mini album is definitely a 10/10 all the b sides are personally to me 10 times better than the TT. But I’m really glad JYP is giving the members real and equal chances to grow as individual artist. They obviously won’t have equal success ( and honestly I don’t think it’s 100% because of xenophobia probably like 30% ) I thinks it’s more about what music they make ( I mean comparing them to all 8 members of EXO who are Koreans it’s clear to see that not all idols will have 100% of fans support with their solo endeavors)

[@jmsoriano6296]

for the haters, if she ain't good enough, YG wouldn't debut her in Blackpink at first.

[@amiyarose9140]

I think members of Kpop groups walk a fine line when they pursue solo fame in the West. They have to be exciting/sexy enough to pique Westerners' interest, yet at the same time remain "innocent" so as not to alienate Korean fans. Regarding Lisa's performance at the VMAs, I really enjoyed it, and I always thought she was the member most likely to succeed as an international pop star.

[@WISH-MUSIC-CAFE]

The only thing i have a problem with is her nonsensical lyrics. You can tell she has no understanding of her songs or the meaning behind it after watching her genius interview. But I think that is exactly what they are going for. Lisa has always even when she sometimes used to write her own lyrics, she has always written shallow lyrics so.. Her music is just for the visual aspect and for her charisma, thats it, she is not an artist, she is a performer who has that charm that pulls you in on screen.

[@LovelyKissess]

There's nothing wrong with that

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

Wish she could write better,since i think the concept for new woman was amazing

[@WISH-MUSIC-CAFE]

@@LovelyKissess I never said there was.

[@rftg1793]

You just described how I feel about her. Idk if it was me but her latest releases didn’t hit like Money, is it because at that time I didn’t care about the lyrics or because she hasn’t found a good songwriter yet? And I think is the latter

[@LovelyKissess]

@@WISH-MUSIC-CAFE I know. I was basically agreeing with you

[@jass029love7]

Believe it or not, I always expected Lisa to promote more in the West because of how large her fanbase here is. However, I expected some form of pushback or hate from the public. I'm very excited to see where she goes from here.

[@TheDhanaMC]

😭😭😭 Thank you!

[@carolinaprincesss]

I love love love loveee me some Lisa, but she can't sing! Atleast not well enough to be a SINGER. Yes, she has a massive fanbase but her label parading her any and everywhere is only going to cause her to lose fans. Many of pop girls have fallen from grace due to lipsyncing. And karaoking over a super loud backtrack isn't far off from lipsyining. She's leveraging her millions of fans to get into a lane she has no business being in. I know and love Lisa because she's an amazing dancer, she's stunning, she has amazing stage presence, and she's a good rapper. But a singer? Pop star? She can barely hold a note! I dont' know what they're thinking.

[@Some-t2o]

We Need you to make a blackpink Olympics on Rose Ive been waiting for MONTHS

[@spikey310]

Rosé stans are vicious, yet they never get called out

[@rajivbali1783]

@@spikey310 what hahaha lisa solo fan ohhhh

[@spikey310]

@@rajivbali1783 oh my what a cold response! sent shivers through my body🥶

[@florencembah2626]

I think she waiting for Rose to release a debut and see people reaction before she makes a full video

[@krishnabali5054]

@@spikey310 how ?? We all know that lilies are most toxic

[@MoonMontag]

So I am here again after Global citizen and damn am I disappointed or what. I never have cared about live singing or what not especially when the dancing is really hard, but facts being stated are I think I wouldn’t find it bad if she lipsyncs during a song like Rockstar since the choreography is a little bit hard but for a song like MOONLIT FLOOR where she’s barely dancing around it’s like huh!? It leaves you questioning, I am glad she’s crushing boundaries when it comes to creating music that is different from what we’ve seen from Blackpink. But with the global citizen performance well she really seems to be lacking a lot when it comes to actual performance on live stages. Ps: this from a person that has only seen the performance online

[@purpleantidote6120]

Nah I have no sympathy for her after Global Citizen Live. I have defended her lots of times but am now running out of excuses. What even was that? Just lazy and disappointing and quite frankly, embarrasing. Its not just the lipsyncing, its the fact her stage presence has fallen off as well. If she was going all out with dancing (which we know she is capable of!), I don't think anybody would have minded the lipsync so much but she's not even doing that. She was laying around/walking around letting the backtrack do pretty much all the work. This was not a random music show or comeback showcase. This was an incredible opportunity which just fell flat. Again.

[@Tarikkb]

I feel like Lisa and rose are on a similar boat but they’re also taking their time , idk why maybe because of negotiations regarding to contracts and terms but I feel like Lisa jennie and rose are planning similar things but on different ends of the western market , jisoo feels content with what we’re she wants to do

[@Aizannn]

Without singing talent there’s actually not much you can go. She riding on her 100 million instagram follower count and her dating the heir of LVMH status. Blackpink has always been mediocre, overhyped and riding on all other factors except skill and talent period.

[@daisydroid]

You don't need to be talented at vocals in order to succeed in the kpop industry, just look at jimins solo career lmfao. Keep barking tho

[@savitasharma8769]

​​@@daisydroid Thats the best you came up with to defend Lisa. toxic blinks cannot keep jimins name out of their mouth , jimin sings live while performing hard choreography compare to lisa lipsyncing most of her performance while standing. In group performance other members used to cover her up now she is solo she has to practice live singing but you people are too smart to understand this.

[@cerebrumexcrement]

i hope people dont take those opinion pieces as the opinion of the majority. its just one performance. there will be more. ✌🏼

[@NatalieMarie917]

I just hope her performance doesn’t end up limiting opportunities for other kpop groups or soloists in the future

[@Dangitwhynotme]

People hating on her is like giving her free promotions, any publicity is still publicity she still gets the money and the fame.

[@cloudspigtails8076]

since debut, anyone with a brain who saw whistle and boombaya knew it then, that Lisa is the star of the group. They are all stars, if were being real here, but Lisa was and still is the stand out so it doesnt suprise me one bit to see how far she has come and how much farther she will go.