Why people left Big 4 | Why big 4 attrition rate is so high | Why you should not work in big 4

[@catusharmakkar]

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[@shivamgoyal626]

Reasons- 1. Late night workings 2. Seniors are not good 3. Excessive Pressure 4. Politics 5. Excessive Client importance

[@gamecity2396]

Bpo mei bi ayi he😂

[@sakshigoel676]

Non-competitive salaries

[@Believer17_]

Shivan goyal ne bol diya sach 🙏

[@santoshkarkera9371]

This happens only in India 🇮🇳 as no good laws for laborers

[@vinaythakre14]

And no overtime pay

[@Poshunravel]

Glad you took this topic up and I can totally relate, I am on the verge of the same conditions

[@vishalnigam8141]

Working in US taxation in a Big4. Late night working every day. They will make you login at 8.30 am in the name of meetings and catch up calls. Then give you a 30 min break for lunch and in that lunch break also you will get a continuous message. They will make sure you are working late every day. These days im logging out at around 11pm every day. NO OVERTIME, NO EXTRA COMPENSATION. Its mees in here. They will make you work on weekends (Both days). Every holiday is a floating holiday for them. No public holidays make sense here, it's just a normal working day. The manager's main concern is Chargeable hours, nothing else. Only hours hours every day. I got promoted to Associate 2 and got a hike of only 4k. Every other employee is leaving these firms. All the work load in on the new joiners associates. Never join a big 4 in a US tax domain.

[@senor2930]

Not just tax. That's the culture across all business units except the consulting. I'm in Risk Advisory in India and it's pretty much the same for me too. Only people I see chilling are the consulting folks.

[@vishaldora8803]

Experience the same in EY , Can you tell in which big 4 you're working??

[@prasannnayak2202]

Bro I'm pursuing EA, then what should I do in future...😢

[@smileplease6151]

I am really glad someone is atleast talking these real points. Here are some of the cons from my role experience(please note that there are many other pros): 1. Started as a fresher at decent salary not a fantastic one, but all the calls start from 8 to 11 30 pm and this hugely disturbed mycognitive sleep schedule leading to anxienty and overthinking. 2. Heavy Politics, since I started from a basic position, there are many seniors above me who always took the credit of my work(Thats expected but whats really frustrating is that they told many complaints against me for not doing work, never explained the task clearly even on asking twice) 3. Managers never ever ever ever listen to basic level staff they only support senior level (well so that they can get their work done smoothly and enjoy)and on the top of that most of the priority is given for US people(I was in onsite role). No Indian staff is ready to fight against these cause ofcourse they need timely promotions. 4. Try to explain some of the issues with seniors to the management.Management kicks you out the project without any specific reason!! 5. Projects are never assigned based on your skills/intrest but based on the impresion of the senior managers.. Everyone is like what a lavish life and life is settled life At the end of the day felt like Mental peace is being disturbed and felt like people who are in villages are living a rich(values)life compared to me. Yes Money is Important but not to the extent that someone make you feel worthless! I am never influencing here people not to join Big4, there are many pros like stability,monitory perks, branding and would suggest people to join at mid senior level or above so that you can view the comforts of big4.. All da best!!

[@tusharthakurmw]

Dope video💯🔥, completely true, employees mental and physical health are equally important , they are not robots

[@nischaysabherwal9866]

Glad you took this topic up! It was quite insightful, keep going 😊

[@soniajain1993]

Hi sir... I work in a small CA firm and I have worked there for 3+ yrs as an article and a paid assistant as well... Whatever you have mentioned in this video I can totally relate because it happens even at a smallest work place.. nobody is happy with their jobs ! At the office there are a lot of people who do not like to raise their voice against all these ! They do their job without any satisfaction of the work, work place, etc... You missed 1 point.. treating your employees properly at all times!

[@LakshyaRawat]

I believe many people in our country do not respect the services they get from certain businesses, especially small ones. Businesses need to change this attitude. Customer is definitely the king. All the efforts of business are to satisfy them. If they are not satisfied they shall express themselves in a humane manner. But no human (Client here) can be treated or even expect to be treated like GOD by others. That's the most toxic thought process I can think that is harming our society in not just business but in many aspects. Everyone reading this I would also request you to reflect whenever you take a service from anyone/any business that you are being a good customer or not. Because in the end we are serving each other in an economy.

[@senor2930]

1. Being lazy 2. Having life outside work I see all my colleagues work all day everyday, including weekends. Not a way to live in a long term but it's fine when you are young.

[@Kadakchaiiiiiii]

I work in one of the big4 offshore and I relate with all the points so much! Specifically point 1 and 5!!

[@sarojini1986]

Point 2 is the key, I have been with a bi4 for 8+ years and I am enjoying my journey. There are some many Pros that the other cons he is referring to are not material.

[@ravindraswami89008]

Shut up

[@AnishCMA]

Can I know your role in the big 4.

[@workoutdiet3646]

In which domian are you?

[@neelbis]

Surely you are not in statutory audit domain

[@avisekh1]

The points you told in your video is 100% common in any private job in this country or world. To avoid such situation only one way is there which is to do govt job & live like a king. But in private job or business you have to work hard to earn money. 10 to 5 duty is only possible in govt jobs only. Less pressure but huge pleasure 😂

[@soumsgaming238]

Gov job milna asan nahi hain in the present scenario

[@soumsgaming238]

Less vacancy stringent competition stagnant recruitment process success ratio is very very less privatisation is the future possibility

[@avisekh1]

@@soumsgaming238 Then better to stop complaining regarding big 4 & other pvt organization. Kyunki scenario har jagah pe same hain. Big 4 to phir bhi bahut hi achha hain jo achha khasa pay karta hain at least. Bahut sare organization mein to 10 ghanta kaam karwane ke baad bhi paisa nehi de te hain. I know such people in local audit firm who is getting just ₹4,000 (Four Thousand) & doing their duty for 8 hours.

[@careerguruji368]

I have invested 3 year to get govt job .....

[@anoopm2022]

@Avisek Government job is not the same bro. It is in huge loss du to corruption and mismanagement. I agree work hours is less but u will have to stick in the same job till u retire whether u like it or not. Some government office there is no pension. Look what happened to Air India soon that will happen in many government organization

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

I joined KPMG 2 months back in stat audit. I am going to leave KPMG because of work pressure and politics

[@RAHULGUPTA-1111]

Are u in kpmg India or in global

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

@@RAHULGUPTA-1111 india

[@aasimsaiyed750]

Are they making difference between religions?

[@KaveriTheExplorer]

.but y u are leaving? ​Like any specific reason?@@saipriyasridhar2170

[@shobhitsrivastava2468]

I am CFA, and found a genuine responsible information by this guy.

[@priyankajaiswal9560]

Experienceing the same😣 It takes away your mental peace

[@RAHULGUPTA-1111]

Are u in Indian big 4 or global big 4

[@shakoorjr1043]

Mental Peace already destroyed hain. LOL

[@Cavishalagrawal98]

I am a CA final student(grp 2 pending)...having articleship from a mid size firm....want to do something of my own in long run...should I go for big 4 for taking some experiences in initial years after clearing my exams .

[@catusharmakkar]

yes absolutely.. I have made one video on benefits of big 4.. recommend to watch that video also

[@ashishsaxena5212]

What about their foreign offices do they do the same? I have heard that thier foreign offices like Deloitte USI, EY GDS in india culture is different from the indian offices.

[@ahilyagodse]

True

[@catusharmakkar]

Yes that is some kind of backend process and there is flexibility comparably

[@pankajpimpare8438]

Hello CA Tushar, I'm an article in one Big 4 from 3 months. I've realised a lot of pressure, hierarchy and client issues. I also want to do something on my own as you mentioned in the video. So I'm tense about the future. Do I've to do practice or a job at the same Big 4. If I do a job then though monetary benefits are there but not a satisfactory life. If I started practice, then much network is there but not that type of money and living style as of Big 4. So please have a suggestion for a job at Big 4 or own practice. Also please advise me whether to complete Articleship in Big 4 or should take trf into a mid size firm. Thank you for your guidance and time.

[@yatharththaker5735]

How do you get articleship over there bro ?

[@ayushrathore5139]

In my opinion being your own owner is better than work under another It's sufficient for your answer you relate

[@ThePradyumnareddy]

Is this late night work and pressure is only for auditing or the technical consultants at SAP also face same?

[@bijayshrestha7135]

I got job confirmation from EY GDS through call. but not yet received Offer letter for more than a week. still waiting. did they make me april fool?

[@catusharmakkar]

call and confirm with their HR

[@bijayshrestha7135]

@@catusharmakkar called HR today. he told he has not yet got update from team about my joining. He told he will inform me as soon as he gets any update.

[@skmillionaire333]

@@bijayshrestha7135 this means they are looking for someone who will ask less CTC than you happened with me too

[@aimwithamanp]

@@bijayshrestha7135 Did you got reply bro and when ? I am also waiting so asking

[@wolverine008]

Yew even I am same in situation..they are making super late to provide offer ..now got real point why are they making super late...

[@Abhishek-vd1fb]

i heard somewhere that Naukri word is derived from the word Naukar itself...is it right???

[@Manish----]

Yes.. Obviously

[@rahulsingh-ui9tl]

Nahi nahi. ........

[@amishakhatri7922]

Could you please tell if there is same work pressure in global clients

[@catusharmakkar]

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[@NamanJainclasses]

Agar client ko zyada importance di jayegi to kya hum ye kh skte hai ki auditor ki independency affect hogi?

[@kartikgupta]

Hi, i got a job as a finance manager near my home in small company with a slight higher package compared to big4 audit job. I want to leave big4 during to work life balance issue. Should i join the small company? Will it negatively affect my career?

[@PriyaGupta-pn3mk]

Is Indian Practice in Big 4 in Statutory Audit profile too stressful ?? I am going to join Deloitte soon as an AM in Stat. Audit and feeling very nervous after listening from friends and reviews that I can't survive there 🥺

[@catusharmakkar]

There are benefits also of joining big 4,,, everyone should always try big 4.. as it teaches alot... I have made one video on the benefits of Big 4.. Recommend to check it out :)

[@knowledgeandfunwithmisbah5909]

Hey requesting you to , Post the interview questions asked in Deloitte india urgently, Because of campus interview is scheduled on coming day. Thank you

[@KunalHassani]

It’s not at all for long term but definitely worth taking experience

[@Ashokkumar-vo8zk]

Bhai me apna bata rha hu.. I am also on stat audit🥲🥲🥲

[@akshaygupta6863]

How was your work experience in Deloitte India?

[@gahlanprash7]

Attrition rates have been high as 80% in big4 across audit and advisory. Most migration has been to industry and niche consulting firms due to work life balance. I remember joining big4 and working across weekends for 2 years continuously.

[@worldfighter4779]

Thanks for the content. Thanks for the subtitles

[@abdulsamadkasid1380]

hi tushar bhai can you clear as there are two entities india and USA in which you feel is workload is more and politics is more

[@shubhanshukumar4600]

Each and every line feels soooo true, I am also planning to leave my company for exactly these reason, my health is declining significantly.

[@amishakhatri7922]

Are you big 4 global or domestic

[@shubhanshukumar4600]

@@amishakhatri7922 no big 4 but global

[@sonusankhlecha4051]

Agar long term me practice hi krne ka plan hai to ...initially for CA fresher is it any fruitful to work in big 4 for 1-2 years..or should work in industry since want some maturity

[@common_man6307]

Please dont join big 4. I am begging you. You will suffer from anxiety, depression, no work life balance, you will slog minimum 12 hours maximum 16 hours

[@amishakhatri7922]

Does it same goes for global clients?

[@studyid231]

agar late night work karna pade kyuki client ne files time pe nahi di, toh bohot dard hota hai

[@Thememerboy007]

Bhaiya plzzz also make. A video on how to establish your practice after doing articleship from a big firm.i am also doing from sskm

[@catusharmakkar]

sure.. in upcoming videos

[@BDas-cu7zw]

@@catusharmakkar bhaiya, i am doing my articleship from a very small firm. Now I have gotten opportunity to go to EY for industrial training. Should I go for that? I mean after watching this video I'm a bit scared

[@amritansh3357]

@@BDas-cu7zw Did you went there?

[@BDas-cu7zw]

@@amritansh3357 Hi, Yes Amritansh. I have completed almost 4 months in EY.

[@amritansh3357]

@@BDas-cu7zw How is the experience there? Is it same like he says in the video? How did you get there? There are lot of ques. But it's out of curiosity 🙂

[@milanvashishth8461]

All are not same when we have a all responsibility and family responsibilities we have we have to do

[@shalin4588]

Can u clarify does even Girl CA professionals have to wait for late night working for 2-3 months of audit season ?

[@catusharmakkar]

yes.. but generally you will be given company reliable cab to drop at home.. or a guy from team will leave you :)

[@rahulsingh-ui9tl]

Kyo behen, Women empowerment nahi chahiye aapko?

[@crocodile4545]

Yes, you only asked for equality for women no? Then face it!

[@KhushiSingh-eb3ip]

@@rahulsingh-ui9tl chahiye bro but guarantee kya hai ki safe rhenge even some families don't allow late night duties trust me bro raat me jane ka darr htt jaye or safe ho jaye galiya to kisi ko koi extra treatment na mille and i do understand you 😅

[@rahulsingh-ui9tl]

@@KhushiSingh-eb3ip To bi nahi karogi sista....Even Female MANAGERS do not want to keep Female juniors in team. Bahaane hi itne hain. Rahi baat galiyan safe ho and all, DENMARK me bi ladkiya bass Empowerment ke naam par bass mazze leti hain.Woh toh safest place hain for females. Lekin 5 pm ke baad kli ladki office me rehti hi nahi aur unko phir bi office transpirt chahiye coz CHUI MUI and all. HA HA SISTER...... PS: I have worked with Deloitte and EY. Majority of Girls in both of them do not want to work and do catch hold of a SIMP to do their work. Koi galti nahi ladkiyo ki,its in their nature to utilize disposable Men. I can count on my fingers females who I have seen actually leading a Team in my career- Total 3 women. May be it has to do with NOTION - For Men, job is a necessity, for women a luxury. A lot of women leave jobs in age bracket of 35-40. Bolti hain ki Bacche ho gaye, Ghar dekhna hain.That is necessaeily not true. Majority of Females cannot handle pressure in a Big4 . TCS, WIPRO,etc me chal jaata hain.Yaha nahi. Hopefully, you are one of those women who actually work and NOT use empowerment thing to progress as a lot of women do. And, trust me sista, majority of Managers do not like to take a Female in a team to work ,not even Female Managers.

[@Suddenword]

My observation - They are taking our benifit but what about our high salary. We'll get money 💰 when we'll work hard or more than it that's it . If not satisfied 🙂 so it's upon your satisfaction 😉😉..

[@SJSawant]

Sir, You need to learn some tricks to handle client and Yes Do practice Self Analysis daily by writing down how your day went and how to get solutions to problems

[@Chariot_Life.On.Wheels]

You got it correct But these are core things on which any business works😅😅😅😅

[@saketsrv9068]

Its better to be jobless rather than working at Big4. If you don't have skills and want to grow in toxic environment ,Big4 is the right place. Big4 is a mess. I am its victim.

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

Me too

[@RAHULGUPTA-1111]

Are u in India big 4 or global big four

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

@@RAHULGUPTA-1111 I am india big 4, KPMG

[@RAHULGUPTA-1111]

@@saipriyasridhar2170 how is global big 4 in terms of work life balance, work pressure and environment etc.?

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

@@RAHULGUPTA-1111 comparatively better

[@anonymouswrites]

The title should be 'when to join and leave big four'

[@pulkitmehendiratta4665]

Very informative video sir.

[@arpandoshi9878]

All these points are universal bro.

[@sarthakgupta1816]

Sir I've heard from few (1 or 2) of my colleagues who claim that their brother or sister have been in big4 for nearly 4 to 5 years and there have been no work pressure. Like they close their laptop at 5 pm after which neither they do work nor they get call from their office to work. And in contrast they speak about hefty salary (like 18 lacs or more) their siblings get working in big4. I am also reluctant to accept what they tell because that much salary doesn't match with that little pressure😂. So, even if 1% but is it true what they say??

[@abhi8178]

They're lying

[@arvindmanavasi9936]

Zaroori nahi hai that they are in audit...consulting is a relatively low pressure arm of their business

[@dhruvduggal7156]

Big 4 bekar work culture hai

[@indrajitbanerjee7046]

Big 4 life is not meant for everyone.

[@carishipandey5506]

Actually i m joining Deloitte offshore...will i able to switch to Indian practice within 1 year??

[@swadhatrivedi5375]

I wanna know the same... i got offer letter from GT indus and i think i wanna switch in indian practice after some time.

[@pavanpatil8914]

Sir...Welcome to the club

[@suranjanbhattacharya512]

Should a CA join USI or GDS to maintain that worklife balance? Can you guide me on this? As every work becomes monotonous after a certain point of time.

[@sahilshah4295]

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[@suranjanbhattacharya512]

@@sahilshah4295 he has only pointed out negatives while saying "am not biased".

[@sahilshah4295]

@@suranjanbhattacharya512 ok maybe so. But not many videos are available, so i shared what i had watched.

[@catusharmakkar]

For the intial 1-2-3 years, i would recommend to have Indian firm experience... then u can go to these firms :)

[@caexams6393]

hey currently i am in global (big four). trust me if you wanna do job in future..... forever then go for indian firm and if you are doing job just for 2-3 years....... and then want to do something else then go for global.

[@JW-zo3rc]

100% truth. Can relate to all the points

[@ok-kb1wo]

Big 4 kya itni bhi jyada salary nahi deta hai.as compare to big4 investment banking kafi hike deti hai.

[@vijaykethavath5555]

There are more Finance companies expect big 4 Like Jp Morgan S&p global Factset Wells forgo Franklin Templeton Broadgr ridge Bank of America Fis global ICICI HDFC Rentifiv Genpact And so many And we so many roles in any company

[@cazaibahasan]

If not big 4 then what will be other good options?

[@ChitranshSagarMTAIE]

Sir last point is exactly valid. Client is god

[@CAHiteshArora]

I can't agree more👍🏻

[@sansan-vf6bt]

Sir is your course will help to open a ca firm from scratch to advance ??

[@wolverine008]

I got offer in pwc as SAP ...please tell me how is it..I also has offer from TCS which one to considered

[@rahulsingh-ui9tl]

Definately PWC. TCS is junk.

[@rahulsingh-ui9tl]

Which stream of SAP- SUCCESSFACTORS?

[@lavivarshney79]

Sir only first group clear hone pr big 4 join nhi ki ja skti kya? Or kya attempt matter krta h big4 k liye?

[@catusharmakkar]

Big 4 generally demands for both group passed out candidate...

[@lavivarshney79]

@@catusharmakkar ok..

[@N1ck279]

CA Fesher may22 ; looking for job in big 4 even low paying ! Please help !

[@ashwini7845]

Good.. Same experience here..

[@sagarganguly8]

100% sahee bola h aapney

[@Jain.om20]

Bilkul Sahi

[@lavivarshney79]

First day jb office jate h..Uska experience jaan'na h mujhe

[@catusharmakkar]

Soon :)

[@poorvagmehta2217]

Wow great video...true informations.

[@RajeshKumar-km4pp]

Do we get overtime for late night working?

[@catusharmakkar]

Haha... No

[@tusharthakurmw]

@@catusharmakkar 😂😂😭

[@agarwalatul32]

​@@catusharmakkarlabour laws hampe applicable nhi hota (Kash ho jaye)

[@zahaibkhan6797]

Do Big 4 hire MBA (HRM) graduates?

[@devanshseth9727]

Yes

[@ladu7371]

Sir English nhi aati to big four mai ja skte hai kya

[@dineshmagar627]

Thank you sir, your all point are correct and true, if you possible please drop down your contact details in description box.

[@arijit2275]

Left for same reasons. Now atleast I have peace of mind.

[@nirisaraf3833]

What was your job profile in big 4?

[@catusharmakkar]

stat audit

[@senor2930]

​@@catusharmakkarsame! 😂 That is the most high voltage job over there. Only the people who have no life outside their work can continue to do it for more than 3-4 years.

[@ashwini7845]

100 % true

[@indianmelody4311]

Ye reason nhi h harrasment h..... Aur problem toh ye h ki sabko acha bnna hai seniors ke saamne kisi me guts nhi hota h ki bol sake ki ye environment galat hai aap staff badhao etna pressure ensan kam karne aaya hai aur puri life etni pressure me toh koi bhi nhi kaat sakta hai.........

[@Gauravg2Gupta]

Lol your video title say Why You Should Not Work in Big4 and then you said I joined Big4 for my benefits and once I got those I left_hypocrisy_also admit the fact and appreciate the experience you get_!!!

[@anilbadgoti178]

Keep it bro

[@dheerajchawla32]

True

[@priyabachate8418]

Yes sir Polemics hoti he

[@_matlabi_duniya_]

Sala kitne naseeb wale hai aajkal ke insta wale influenceeersss...sala ek to itna padhai karo padhai karo baad me work life aise...unka to accha hai ek to naachgana karo and badi badi companies unko hi paise dete hai advertisement ke...

[@maplecheck]

Samee

[@shivamkhandelia3454]

does it apply to all big4

[@sakshi3480]

Yes

[@cajatinaswani609]

Currently serving my notice period in Deloitte

[@sharmas7586]

Congratulations

[@pradeepdjain]

Practice?

[@HarshitaSingh]

Hi! Can i please know what is the duration of the notice period @CA Jatin Aswani

[@Bunny-so3gm]

@@HarshitaSingh 2months

[@raj21at]

congratulations

[@PriyanshuNath-p6k]

❤

[@silence_vibe]

Sir i wana work with you 🙏🙏🙏

[@KingOfShadow]

Sir Politics 😔

[@Believer17_]

Offer letter ke bad ka khail main hain extreme patience needed better do your own job

[@vipuljain6970]

You are saying like you left Bigg Boss. So shameful of you

[@MoodyVideoGraphies]

hahahah,,,, isse big4 ka koi lena dena nahi hai.... ye choti se choti and badi se badi har companies me hota hai :)

[@paraspachore]

o yaar....what is big 4?

[@cankit7272]

bhai aisi fuddu life b ni jeeni thda kum kma lenge lekin maje se toh jiyenge

[@divyanshsinghi2076]

Big4 is wrost

[@saipriyasridhar2170]

Yes

[@SKY_Videography]

🥺

[@Jaishivji777]

Sir do not make videos in office You are disturbing people who are working behind you Just joking 😂😂😂

[@catusharmakkar]

Haha

[@dineshmagar627]

Thank you sir, your all point are correct and true, if you possible please drop down your contact details in description box.