Why Peter Green left Fleetwood Mac

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[@vayabroder729]

I’ve always loved this man’s humility and genius. He is in Heaven, definitely. Thank you for this great presentation!

[@TheGuitarShow]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@HappyHermitt]

Absolutely. A special place was prepared for him. His disdain for fame and fortune is admirable. For me, he is more than an inspiration.

[@maxwellfan55]

Ramon. This was precious. Also some rare images not seen before, thank you. Peter looking very relaxed with a Strat! Disturbing to know folks think you're mentally ill cos you want to give your excess cash to others, and do things for free. Peter just didn't want to be part of the machine. He was smart, but he paid a heavy price. I like to think he found contentment in end because, God knows, he deserved to. He still enjoyed his collection of guitars, he also liked going fishing, dear man. I understand there's a lot more to this, but those of us who felt touched by his magic fingers from the very start will know there will never be another Peter Green.

[@plasticweapon]

he was mentally ill. don't rationalize.

[@balke7935]

The way he describes it all at the time though, it sounds so reasonable and astute to me today. I’m not saying he wasn’t mentally very poorly, but it all made a lot of sense; you had to be a bit of a git to survive in the music business in those days and keep it t going through the 70s and 80s. The Stones, Clapton… a lot of those acts had to reinvent themselves constantly to fit in with ‘pop’ music and keep their places at the top. They weren’t afraid of stepping on people in the process either. Peter wasn’t about that and I admire that massively - it wasn’t just his music that has a sincerity and honesty that was absolutely unrivalled.

[@frantisca]

Peter Green was so talented and sensible. What a shame to have witnessed his descent to hell. He had a nice come back with Splinter group, but never really was the same, but for his great voice. Thanks for this piece of PG story Ramon. Cheers Rene

[@maxwellfan55]

Sorry to disagree but I want to be honest. I didn't think he had a good voice in Splinter, nor was his playing any good. The great P Green made his mark in his prime.Oh, but what a mark.

[@frantisca]

@carolinewoodward1016 I didn’t know about his brother… for the rest, I agree with you: Cheers 😊

[@chrismiddleton9088]

@@maxwellfan55 Agreed - he was a shadow of his former self. With FM he had a very good voice (Oh Well, Homework etc) and was an outstanding guitar player. RIP Peter Green.

[@mreppen1]

@@maxwellfan55yeah he wasn’t the same.

[@chrismiddleton9088]

After 1970 he became a shadow of his former self (a brilliant musician/songwriter). So very sad. We must continue to treasure his contribution to music in those early years.

[@amusicalheart7]

I’ve always only known the later incarnation of Fleetwood Mac even though I was aware of Peter’s era of the band. I was heretofore unaware of these things about him. I am very impressed with this glimpse his heart. I will try to find and listen to his music.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Excellent and happy new year

[@blazey1978]

Why is it mental illness to not want to be rich? Peter Green, the finest English blues guitar man was, is, and will always be part of something better than the rat race. Peace and love x

[@maxwellfan55]

Agree. The world was very fortunate to have had such a humble, yet brilliant musician and Englishman.

[@leechild4655]

And if you could ask Peter would he have done anything differently, he`d say, uh let me think a minut..no! ;-)

[@shaunw9270]

Nice respectful video, thanks Ramon 👍

[@TheGuitarShow]

Pleasure Shaun

[@DoubleRR44]

Really great video! One of my favorite bands ever Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac

[@TheGuitarShow]

Many thanks indeed

[@derekclacton]

Great video - PG was a 💯 purist when it came to making music … Super outro jam - captures that early FM vibe so well 👍

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thank you so much Derek

[@blackieLTD]

Where can I find that particular jam?

[@jamesjameson4303]

Very cool info. Hadn’t heard some of it. Thanks for your work on Peter Green’s life. I’m not usually that interested in the life of artists but Pete is one of the few that touched me deeply.

[@waltraud734]

Thank you !!!!yes Peter was so different to others and so we loved him , 💖 but that he was so damaged from some therapy ,ist pardonable 🖤 may he rest in piece 💚💚💚🙏

[@TheGuitarShow]

Lovely comment, thank you

[@francovani393]

That was amazing love the accompanying photos. Has me wondering whether there is a link between madness and creative genius

[@atiostefony3760]

One of a kind, i wish i hade his music earlier in my life. RIP Great vid!

[@TheGuitarShow]

Amen

[@OlafProt]

He was dosed. And broken. Such a sadly familiar story around this time that happened to so many people, its just we knew who PG was.

[@HappyHermitt]

His disdain for fame and fortune is admirable. For that and his suffering, he has a special place that was prepared for him. Such a good and humble soul.

[@songman2000]

Interesting to hear this in Peters words. I had the privilege to meet Peter in 16 and we became friends. One of his best friends came and lived with me in 1971 for a year, Nigel Watson. Nigel brought two of Peters guitars with him to Boston where we lived. One was Peters 1957 Strat and the other was his Dobro. the exact one in this picture on this KZbin video. I owned a 1959 Sunburst, we had PETER'S Dobro and StRATt aAND A 1960 BLACK BEAUTY Les Paul WOW

[@epajanssen]

For anyone interested in Peters life, I can highly recommend getting a copy of Martin Culmin's book 'Peter Green: The Authorised Biography'. It challenges a lot of the myths and delves deeply into Peters reasoning to leave the group. To cut the story short, after releasing Then Play On in September 1969, the band's tour and gig diary was fully booked for a year (!) which put immense pressure on the band. Peter wanted to concentrate more on writing and recording but simply didn't had the time because of the constant touring. He was on the brink of a nervous exhaustion and drugs provided a (temporary) escape. Unfortunately, after leaving Fleetwood Mac things sadly just gradually got more out of hand and the drug use worsened.

[@mestchabeats8955]

What does it actually state about the later drug use and descent into madness? He said personally in an interview that he only took acid six times, which if true would mean that he was extremely susceptible to drug induced mental illness. I find that very hard to believe.

[@epajanssen]

​@@mestchabeats8955 For the best answer I strongly advise to get a copy of his authorised biography. But in short his disillusionment with the (music) industry and his personal struggles just got worse after leaving Fleetwood Mac. He lost track and direction, eventually quit music, took on jobs as a gardener and in undertaking, went to Israel to live in a kibbutz... When all that didn't work out he just became more disillusioned with both him and the outside world and his only way out was using more drugs. It ultimately resulted in the infamous rifle incident after which he was sentenced to enter psychiatric hospitals undergoing electroconvulsive therapy. That one in particular seems to have truly messed him up.

[@mestchabeats8955]

@@epajanssen ah, so he was never sectioned until that incident. Drugs just had such a catastrophic effect on that band. Pete and Danny, who apparently both left the Munich incident as altered people Jeremy spencer who couldn’t stand the sound of his own music after a mescaline trip, leading him to want to quit

[@aminahmed2220]

What a fantastic video have a wonderful day 😊

[@cuda426hemi]

4:38 So interesting to see a virgin looking 'Greeny' Les Paul with the flipped humbucker on it before Gary Moore'd all over it and Kirk Kirk'd all over it though I think Moore aged the thing the most though. Nice, tight little polite piece here on a "genius" that played notes like each one cost him a couple hundred, i.e. tasteful. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@IsmailsGuitarWorld]

Very nice video! Enjoyed the Knopfler style playing on the background music!!

[@TheGuitarShow]

Many thanks indeed 🙏

[@401Blues]

My cousin developed Schizophenia in 1966 in his early 20's delusional thinking, minimalist behavior, withdrawing from friends and family all very typical symptoms, My cousin was also treated with EST in the late 70's....oddly enough at age 60 in last few years of his life they treated with with mild doses of LSD compounds. If you want to hear some of the best of early FM....Blues Jam in Chicago a double album cut in '69 at the Chess studios where the following Chicago blues musicians played with them - Otis Spann (piano, vocals), Willie Dixon (upright bass), Shakey Horton (harmonica, vocals), J.T. Brown (tenor saxophone, vocals), Buddy Guy (guitar), Honeyboy Edwards (guitar, vocals),

[@robinfawcett7973]

Ahhh bless him...

[@thecaveofthedead]

So I believe the evidence now supports psychedelics being _coincidental_ to schizophrenia onset. In other words, musicians were taking psychedelics as young people at the same time a very small number of them began experiencing their first psychotic breaks. The evidence is based on the fact that there is no bump in schizophrenia diagnoses after psychedelics became widely available. But, since schizophrenia usually presents in early adulthood at the same age when people are experimenting with drugs, and psychedelics can cause temporary psychosis, people naturally made an association between their use and long term psychosis. It's terribly sad that some great musicians had their careers curtailed by becoming very mentally ill. But of course it may also have contributed to their particular form of creativity in the first place. At least Peter and Syd Barrett managed to find relief from it. Even if they weren't 'cured,' they both seemed to go on to live fairly contented lives. I believe ECT is still used but not in the irresponsible, unscientific way it was done in the '70s.

[@jimbojones101]

German LSD.

[@stephenhensley5631]

I saw them a few times at the Shrine Auditorium in the way they were then and they blew us away ! Jeremy Spence made us really go crazy when he did slide guitar and sang "Shake Your Money Maker . I think he went thru a similar change, like Peter Green but the way they became later just never sat well with me. One thing though is that Mick still had those wooden balls on his belt ,if you know what I mean.

[@julianmetcalfe1070]

Its always a great shame when people get ill like that ,what a musician he was always humble ,he got caught up with a dodgy german couple ,they where busy scaming many wealthy people at the time,

[@davidbeckerich4792]

Peter Green exhibit a direct connection between his hands, heart,his fingers and a higher power. Peter felt that the group was depending on his song writing too much. Peter told Danny Kerwan that he is responsible for half of the "Then Play On" LP. Danny paid little time writing or the band rehearsing because the group knew that Peter would deliver even if it meant writing ,playing , recording and singing. Unless Peter called a rehearsal the band sat around, this was a major disappointment to Peter. He had outgrown the band. Peter put his pain into his songs and Peter felt he could no longer suffer the pain the it too to put his life to words "something I wish I hadn't been born". Peter was a giver and the band had no problem taking advantage of his shills. Peter would no complain so he left. Great inside info on Peter and the fact that it was not the Munic incident that ended Fleetwood Mac. Bless the Green God.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Great comment David, thanks !

[@johnnyd63]

The most talented acid casualty in rock history.

[@qg3726]

Seems like Peter & Syd were in the same "Head Room" here.. Neither were after Fame & all that comes with being in a Band..

[@TheGuitarShow]

Great comment

[@itwasntmeboningbivvy181]

Peter Green was a tortured genius like Syd Barrett. Born at the wrong time.

[@redjet4810]

Very informative. I thought he was the best English blues player. Saw him at the Fillmore East

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thats amazing man!

[@ronnie9187]

My personal number one of all times is Albatross. I don't now why but it hits many buttons inside of me. For me that is what a guitarist or musician generally should accomplish before he is leaving earth. Not t0 be the fastest, the brightest or the toughest, that is just good fun. But to change and accomplish something inside of his or her listeners. To make a deep connection. Its the magic in the music that counts to me. Most people who have that rare talent as Peter, have also that sensitivity, that fragility that can carry them or brake them.

[@alandingwall8647]

Fantastic

[@williampayne7678]

Great Guitarist

[@gypsieseagul3901]

I loved this video...I learned a few things I didnt know..he has always been one of my favorites though,..I dont recall the name of the song playing at the very end of this video..kinda sounds like ...out if reach with john mayall....please help me out ..its killing me. ..l.o.l...thanx again for the video an I'm looking foward to more of them...

[@kc0lif]

peter green legendary.

[@user-qn6dn1ht4j]

Prter Green never expected to keep mac together, hr said," i nammed it Fleetwood Mac becouse i didnt think id be there very long"

[@TheGuitarShow]

so true

[@markgerrard383]

What a quote!!!

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Awesome 👍

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thanks

[@jonashallberg2832]

In an interview in the Late 80's(Fleetwood mac at 21)Peter said this.i only took lsd a couple of times for inspiration.i think that was my misstake.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thanks for this info

[@ryanodonnell4184]

“If somebody spikes you, your not going to be making the most spiritual music of your life” is an incorrect statement. Peter was NOT spiked in Munich he was used to dropping acid on stage and voluntarily dropped in Munic. After Munic Peter would record The End of The Game which is one of the most spiritual albums i have ever heard and one of the greatest psychadelic albums ever recorder. Peter has stated in a video interview that he and the band drank LSD infused champaign before they recorded the album. Drugs like acid and marijuana can help you connect spiritually to the creative force behind music. Coltrane, miles, hendrix, garcia, santana….the list goes on…they all dropped and it enhanced their music/spiritual connection.

[@bpy4073]

What was the background music at the start didn't recognise it.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Ah its just a little thing I put together for the video

[@bpy4073]

@@TheGuitarShow Sounds great man well done I've been a Greeny fan since the beginning you've captured the vibe perfectly keep on keeping on.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thanks that's so kind of you @@bpy4073

[@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185]

Nice job Goose

[@philippmohos675]

great video. do you mind telling what the name of the song at the of the video is? thanks!

[@oupahens9219]

Shocking.

[@Tdub0911]

Dude was a stud. It really sucks that the acid drove him mad. If he was Schitzo then he couldn't have stopped it and I can't believe that electro-whatever therapy was still in use at that time.

[@georgehorner1578]

Pete was a pure bluesman; the band was drifting too commercial.

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

👍👍👍

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thankyou

[@tompease8810]

He sounds like a man who wanted to be at peace with GOD and himself

[@niteshades_promise]

Electroshock? yeah that barbaric torture only harms the brain😢🍻

[@Michael-mm3fm]

I’m sure I read that he was exposed to too much in Scandanavia.

[@MAP448]

Who is the enemy you speak of@1:20-22?

[@arthurblackhistoric]

The New Musical Express . . NME. A Magazine that very much had its finger on the pulse of contemporary music during the years it was published.

[@pittchaser]

Don't do drugs kids.

[@HappyHermitt]

I didn't know he hsd a son. He is a Ginger inage of Peter.

[@serranodavid3247]

He basically did a Syd Barrett...

[@arthurblackhistoric]

Yeah, it's just too bad Syd wasn't able to recover the way Peter did.

[@bajorekjon]

Pretty much

[@BangTaoBeach]

He lost his mind from excessive use of LSD

[@timbarnhart3121]

Not necessarily, he had a pre existing condition, the psychedelic drugs possibly enhanced his symptoms but did not cause them. They don’t know what causes schizophrenia and they sure as hell don’t know how to treat it. My bet is the cure is more dangerous than the illness. Recent research has shown some psychedelics actually help improve some mental illness…stay curious stay informed

[@jimwoods3742]

LSD hippie commune

[@HappyHermitt]

LSD will humble you.

[@TheGuitarShow]

Thanks Josh!

[@JoeZamecki]

It's sad that religion hurts so many people.

[@whammyman93]

It's sad that drugs and satan hurt so many people

[@ralphowen3367]

True religion has no dark part and no down side, but it must be sought out with all the heart

[@lucytupper69]

@@whammyman93Here O Israel the Lord, the Lord our God is ONE! If you have another, you have a devil. Then you have two! Then 4, 8, 16…….

[@ralphowen3367]

Peter Green was Jewish and a Christian. If his pattern was like what happened to me--though I am not Jewish--he underwent a conversion experience only he and God are privy to. Such entails a tranlation to heaven, and no longer being in the flesh, but in the soirit, not to mention being washed in the blood of Jesus, and becoming forgiven of the past sins. If he was dosed in Germany and electroshocked for a perceiced mental illness, he would have been forceably cut adrift. And yet as a Christian he would be in possesion if a sound mind. .

[@mreppen1]

Such is LSD horrible.

[@duelenigma7732]

Drugs ruined the quality rock music in the 60s and 70s . You cannot sustain yourself doing the likes of acid , meth and junk , it didn't and doesn't work that way for the long term . Moderation in everything and you may live a full life .

[@LadyAmaz]

His son owes me £25 and he inherited £370,000 from a fight for Peter's inheritence and won't part with £25.. ffs Liam thinks he's religious too but he's FOS.. At least Peter was talented.

[@mightyheights7331]

His son seems like a bit of a sad act tbh

[@kingfisher7960]

Nobody today knows who green is. Hes lost. Fleetwood mac is mcvie and nicks. Peter is a nobody in 2023

[@stairwaytoheaven413]

Best ones knows 😉

[@lucytupper69]

Wrong! We who know, know The Green God! 🤍

[@4425evergreen]

he left 50 years ago... we do not care. try something current. or you just want youtube cash! do something we do not know!

[@TheGuitarShow]

My channel is all about this era

[@JohnSmith-ze1ft]

Muppet ! Don't like it ? Keep scrowling.