Why Pirate Software uses paint on stream

[@PedroPedro-sm9oy]

Drawing while talking is an awesome way to articulate

[@Ederick1936]

When I did inbound tech support for Bell Mobility, I ended up as a "SME" (subject matter expert) pretty quickly. It was an offline job where I would answer questions from agents and spend about 20% of my time building and maintaining retraining programs. (We were one of *the* best centers on all metrics because we were fairly proactive in refreshing training and skills). I used to explain things *exactly* the same way with a pen and a notepad, I would go through notepads fairly quickly doing so. Now I work in (not video) games distribution, B2B independent retailer sales channel. Whenever I am having a more in depth conversation with one of my retailers I find myself drawing as I talk in my notebook to a person who is *on the phone* with me. This habit is formed for life.

[@ej7052]

It is. It's essential for learning & explaining on the fly, to visualize what was talked about. Which is why classrooms, lecture halls, meeting rooms, brainstorm corners have blackboards/whiteboards. Or why some people have a pen just to draw on napkins

[@badasbob4761]

Friend of mine works as a game designer, I asked him if TTP was a realy thing. "not only is it real, in some games it can be measured in seconds"

[@sixuk902]

The VR game 'Blood & Money's has a bit where you're vandalising an art gallery, and let's you spray paint a particular painting. TTP is such a real thing they even made reference to it in the dialogue. It was a really weird moment when the game knew what I was drawing.

[@ThePCguy17]

Minecraft, would be one of those games. Takes 6 blocks (three flat, three in the middle going up) for the most basic one, and dirt is close enough to certain flesh tones to work. And hey, if you spawn in a desert it's a goldenrod instead.

[@Kero-zc5tc]

@@ThePCguy17we know the shape of it

[@sixuk902]

@@Kero-zc5tc Your mum knows the shape of it.

[@ClockworkBees]

@@sixuk902That is, in fact, how motherhood works.

[@HKlink]

Deep Rock Galactic added a laser gun that shoots a continuous beam and leaves a trail. I mod mine to be one big burst I can't stop, it just blasts through all ammo at once and I gotta recharge after. I got real good at flicking the beam just right to draw a full one in one sweep. I am very mature for someone in their 30s.

[@p_serdiuk]

didn't expect a Rock and Stone in this comment section gotta train my TTP on the Shard lmao

[@635574]

Warframe mining laser used to have a big longlasting trail on everything including players. But that didn't last very long.

[@jonathannash8471]

Automated Beam Controller. Despite what some might say, it's a really good overcoock. Potentially my favourite.

[@DuckyRubber]

Shard difractor's main use in my loadout is to draw the cool S and dicks. and I do this almost every game

[@devil0448]

"flicking the beam" lmao

[@Ehtis1]

TTP is a fascinating concept

[@autohmae]

I mean, if you look at some of the things done by humans 1000s of years ago, it's the same, so not surprised.

[@la.zanmal.]

The amazing part is that he doesn't take any extra time to answer the question, he just knows exactly where he's going to go with it.

[@Ehtis1]

@@la.zanmal. I assume it's only natural since he has explained it a few times on different streams; he even made an entire short about it, if I recall

[@mrtrickay7111]

that's a reference from the show "mythic quest"

[@rklow2023]

what is ttp?

[@sourkoyote]

I love how Thor answers every question as if he's in a job interview lmao

[@ExpensivePizza]

TTP dates back to the earliest cave drawings.

[@nevarius9010]

how he could explain that with a straight face is beyond me, that was hilarious

[@skeven0]

8====> yess

[@MrMagnaniman]

@@nevarius9010 He could explain it with a straight face because he's had A LOT of practice. This isn't something he just made up on the spot. That was 100% true.

[@LuLe232]

So real life has a TTP, we don't know what it was but it was probably very short.

[@thefowles1]

JP immediately laughing at Thor IMMEDIATELY drawing "Blizzard" as he begins his explanation.

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

Thor gives his community their TTP needs so he himself does not have to draw it. A truly genius move by the goblin lord!

[@nortalian549]

My favorite tidbit about TTP is how CREATIVE people get when there are automated anti-phallus programming. Like I believe it was a Lego game where it got to the point where people set up a spot and said “look here” and through various builds’ negative spaces, a penis emerged.

[@melissa-hadfield]

I remember reading that (I also think it was LEGO) and at that point the mods threw up their hands and realised it was a losing battle.

[@patrickrobertshaw7020]

If you try to prevent people from TTPing, they'll just find more clever TTP

[@hengineer]

@@patrickrobertshaw7020 not only that, it becomes a challenge and the incentive is to draw it more

[@majicktek5051]

Lego Universe. An MMO that lasted 2 years because moderation was too expensive. They deleted phallus-shaped lego builds, but some players found out how to use the "behaviour" blocks (which were kind of programmable lego blocks) to automatically build a phallus when you look in a certain direction and then destroy it when you look away. There wasn't a way for Lego to ban that behavior without removing the programmable blocks

[@deadlypandaghost]

He's not even kidding. I use this to explain tech concepts all the time with crappy little doodles. Its amazing how much a visual aid helps

[@suakeli]

As a game designer I can confirm that TTP (time to penis) is a real concept featured in serious professional guidebooks.

[@Subranis]

the TTP in half life alyx was 90 seconds flat. IYKYK

[@etiennec8139]

Is there a Speedrun category for TTP?

[@D1.y]

There is a speedrun category for everything. Rule 46

[@hundvd_7]

Pretty sure you can do it in 15

[@salsatheone]

​@@hundvd_7the time in seconds is not related to how fast you draw it, it's how fast it took for the first player to do it.

[@Kowzorz]

I legit went to an in-house presentation on ingame drawing systems at an activision studio where TTP was used exactly as PirateSoftware here uses it. It's a real term and an actual concern. Minimizing that metric is something that has to be considered heavily in games where you can draw. This was over ten years ago.

[@poesero]

Thor is the original version of Minecraft parkour video with a reddit story😂😂😂

[@AtraxX98]

Yea but he actually says wise and true shit while those Reddit stories are probably 95% bullshit! The parkour wants to distract you while Thor tries to help you focus on different objectives with his squares and arrows.

[@poesero]

@@AtraxX98 tomatoe potatoe

[@JavaRivers]

The real skill is writing and speaking at the same time 😵‍💫

[@HordrissTheConfuser]

In guild wars 2, you can join a squad of up to 50 people, and draw a temporary mark on the map which then fades after a couple of seconds. That's still enough time to draw a dick over several continents across the world map.

[@ManuFortis]

The drawing thing is catching on too with other streamers. They are realizing the power of the drawn box.

[@thirdwelles]

*Writes out the word "Money" *Double underlines *Draws arrow pointing to the words "bank account" *Thunderous applause ensues

[@simonabunker]

Love how the panel is also showing us all of the stages of growing a beard at once!

[@FolkoMagipaw]

The fact that this actually works at keeping my attention is awesome.

[@KiraKaiten]

Tears of the Kingdom knew we'd make giant hogs out of wood planks

[@AegixDrakan]

OKAY, that actually makes TOTAL sense as a reason to do it. We've all been in meetings that go on long enough for someone's attention to wander and need a repeat.

[@sarat6488]

1:14 "Well you see, I'm an adult."

[@TreewwwyYzzerdd]

Right lol why draw a penis I don’t understand

[@AwkwardDreamer]

TIL that TTP is VERY real. Even found an interview with Rob McElhenney talking about it and the research they did into it

[@TheQuackinator]

i was hoping he would draw an X to complete the shapes at 0:42

[@Lhorez]

A rocket ship with a throbbing ... cockpit. I'll see myself out now.

[@RendMaim]

they even say in that quest in Warlords wiht the powder "I hope you didnt do anything inappropriate with that powder" or something like that

[@wyaumann]

YO A FELLOW MOUSE PAINTER yayaya this skill is awesome. tip that worked for me: ditch the mouse pad when trying to draw. less friction is necessary to avoid shaky lines

[@sodiboo]

isn't the point of a good mouse pad to reduce friction?

[@wyaumann]

​@@sodiboo oh. probably! now realizing all my mouse pads are super old. whatever surface feels best for swooshing.

[@RaidChief]

Do you know what the software he uses is?

[@sodiboo]

@@RaidChief MS Paint

[@Sotanaht01]

@@sodiboo Not necessarily. Lots of different ideas of what a "good" mouse pad is. But in general, most desks are made of some kind of smooth hard surface such as metal, glass, hard plastic, or wood. All of those usually have less friction than any kind of cloth you would find on a mouse pad, though hard plastic mouse "pads" do exist. The best reason to use a mouse pad in my opinion is that reflective, very uniform, or transparent surfaces tend to interfere with the mouse sensor's ability to do its job. Most mouse pads are completely matte, and cloth fibers provide enough detail for the sensors to track consistently. A sheet of paper also provides all those properties, but it doesn't stay where you put it and trying to stick it down adds lumps.

[@oceanbytez847]

2:12 Halo reach, people would spawn the huge checkered shield and place guns on it then snap a photo for the "maps" thumbnail. All kind of D's and V's even in early online gaming. The amount of detail people could get by placing halo guns for line art was actually kind of impressive.

[@Thromash]

Warlords of Draenor, intro quests you get to take a keg of gun powder around to.. He literally said it as I was typing lol Guilty Thor, I couldn't help myself.

[@AshAsmodeus]

Funnily enough I never did... what I DID do was pickup that quest FIRST and then do all other quests afterwards so your trail of gunpowder literally goes all over the place when you light it up. Unfortunately they later patched it so the trail could only grow to a certain length. Still this was TTP because: Man was my shlong long

[@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953]

Best way i can relate to this and as to why the doodling or visual representation helps . think like this when you want to take something apart the average person will likey choose a step by step video than just search for the instructions in text and going by just a written step by step guide 🙏

[@Kytrion]

2:06 I feel called here... Every single time I was leveling up a char....

[@wowcyril93]

I've did it litterally last week. This dick made of gunpowder is a tradition, i've never NOT done it.

[@Jarmister]

I feel called out for drawing it in Warlords of Dreanor expantion intro

[@thejaydizzle]

that quest instantly got into my head when he mentioned TTP

[@AshAsmodeus]

That quest and the one in Cata called "A case of crabs" immediately came to mind.... one for the TTP and one for the simpe fact EVERY MMO/RPG I've played, at some point, had a penis and farts joke in there somewhere.

[@AC3handle]

His VOICE sounds like he should be an on air radio DJ.

[@kchop4tehwpn]

not sure where the clip is but he went through a 2nd puberty and his voice got much deeper, wild thing to think it can happen to an adult, or he was blowing very believable smoke up my ass

[@digitaljanus]

​@@kchop4tehwpn No, it explains a lot. I used to be able to sing in a decent falsetto and then at some point in my early 30s I completely lost it. So when Thor mentioned _his_ voice changing it explained everything.

[@AC3handle]

@@kchop4tehwpn Wait, so if you go through a 2nd puberty, that means you become a radio host? I wonder if there's a reverse puberty, ad someone's voice gets higher. I guess that must happen, because that's where we get anime girls voice actors.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

According to urban legend, the TTP of the Apollo moon program was a little over 1 year from the first manned launch (Apollo 7 in October '68) to Apollo 12 in December of '69. Andy Warhol was involved.

[@RoadsideCookie]

There's also an official world record for TTP on Mars, although it's (allegedly) not intentional.

[@RobinLynn331]

I love how whenever he draws a box, he does it the Japanese way. A little Easter egg for Japanese learners

[@rosly_yt]

Not specifically Japanese, anyone used to a Chinese langauge or language heavily influenced by probably does it that way, including in Korean Hangul, which was loosely based on the Chinese writing system.

[@Elriuhilu]

That's the same way I draw boxes and I don't know any East Asian languages. How else would you draw it? He drew it the same way you write European letters-like a Latin n or Cyrillic Л with an extra line on the bottom, or a Cyrillic Д. Or a Cyrillic and Greek П with an extra line.

[@enrymion9681]

@@Elriuhilu You could draw it in 1, 2 or 4 strokes instead of 3.

[@jenetikitty]

@@Elriuhilu forgive me for commenting on an old comment, but -- it's kinda a neat concept, there are lots of things that everyone does, but lots of cultures do it differently. Like counting on your fingers, do you start with a fist and fold fingers up (western) or do you start with an open palm and fold fingers down (east Slavic countries), when youy're starting from zero, and you count 'one' do you move your thumb, your index finger or your pinky? Does a hand go up to 5? 10? 12? (yes 12. instead of fingers, they count sections of finger, and use their thumb to 'point' at the right bone. ) or tally marks! some people use | || ||| , others use 正 where one line is drawn for each number counted. Others use a square with a slash through it... so the idea of different cultures drawing squares in different ways doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

[@Elriuhilu]

@@jenetikitty I completely agree with you and I find all that very interesting as well. What I was asking about, though, is who draws a square differently. I've never seen a literate adult draw a square shape any other way for this to be an exclusively east Asian way of doing it. It seems universal to me.

[@rjorth]

Are you telling me the squares do not matter?

[@Sick_and_Twisted1]

All these squares make a circle.

[@gavinspammed]

All these squares make a penis.

[@zenergetic_8299]

Everybody nodding their heads during the TTP talk lol

[@SwerveMDPhD]

The Bob Ross of MS Paint

[@axel_r_]

1:06 THE question every man wonders 1:15 THE reaction (Cohh) every man gives to the suggested answer 😂😂

[@EricN73158]

I am not even going to watch the video I just love using paint too and AND the snipping tool as well, I love them both they are the best use them all the time.

[@lithominium9955]

talking and drawing is what i do as a flight instructor, it keeps attention a lot better

[@AdeptusIncompetus]

So is there something wrong with me if drawing these things was never my reaction as a player?

[@Darthtanos]

I've never done it either. I think it means you didn't have a juvenile sense of humor

[@W00JDA]

@@Darthtanos Oh look at you with your sophisticated sense of humor. Us peasants will never understand that.

[@Darthtanos]

@@W00JDA enjoy what you want. No skin off my teeth. But not liking it doesn't mean there's something wrong with either of us. No reason to be a jerk about it.

[@AdeptusIncompetus]

To be fair, nobody was calling me out but myself. It was more of a "goofy" question that doesn't mean much other than an observation about myself. It was just always one of those things you hear, "everyone immediately tries to draw one as first instinct", but I just never had that urge 😅

[@akirandrake414]

Same. Never wanted to draw dicks or boobs in games. My humor was more puns at stuff going on or sarcastic commentary at NPCs.

[@allylilith5605]

examples from wow off the top of my head: -pyrites in ulduar (an absolute classic) -corpses in dalaran (a hell of an effort) -ashes of al'ar trails (requires a partner, can recommend)

[@justaregularguy7982]

1:18 thor was about to say "one i draw one so good that HR called me to see it"

[@YeetusMan12345]

He draws so smoothly that I thought he used a tablet and pen this whole time wtf.

[@SpectreZ3R0vt]

Honestly, great way to have me pay attention in a meeting cause my ADHD makes it really hard.

[@schaufelwerker]

the laughters were very heartful no shame =)

[@Densema]

Drawing in Paint while talking is old man's Subway Surfer :D

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

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[@Tiosh]

I've made so many "rocket ships" in Minecraft

[@vladislavkaras491]

Thanks for the video! :D

[@tjmcbride88]

just for the fact thor has his own term for TTP this reminds me about the LoL dev team using the term (DP) dude potential (example is you can see 3 enemies on the mini map and you're about to walk into a bush, the DP value of that bush is 2 because there are potentially 2 people hidden in there waiting for you)

[@farzadjahanfard]

You don’t ask questions from Thor he just blesses us with answers 👊🏼

[@pablochacon6768]

Its basically the "jingle jingle" Meme 🤣

[@DzlHud]

I was literally thinking about the black powder quest. I instantly TTP'd

[@markturner2989]

TTP was basically the silicon valley joke >.>

[@mortmortmort8908]

I know exactly what quest Thor is referencing, it's in the intro sequence to Warlords of Draenor. I play through Warlords a lot because it's really fast xp for questing. he's absolutely right. I draw a dick with the gunpowder every single time.

[@jaredduncan8495]

Considering the powder burns through the path you took every time, I love just running in circles on that quest. For ages. Like 15 to 30 minutes of just running in circles. So that when the powder burns, it just makes a tiny loop-de-loop SO many times before continuing where it needs to go.

[@clamrollvideos]

It's almost like TTP was mentioned in a TV show about programmers lol

[@hojokono]

fun fact i went into a game that was in development that no other players played yettt.... i was the first TTP in that game

[@nutmcalister]

Hard to paint a wall without it.

[@sin5946]

I do the same thing in meetings. Paint, drawing during explanation, so they get a visual idea of it, which most ppl process much better. Then many times we take a ss, and it goes to the JIRA ticket.

[@MegamanLegendz89]

TTP - Valve perfected this on Alyx with the whiteboard

[@mattjb007]

TTP made famous in a Mythic Quest episode

[@jason6569]

TTP of The Division 1=the moment you get a gun 😂

[@AtraxX98]

Greatest beautiful long haired wizard on the internet

[@Khaos82_]

I remember the black powder quest and yes. I did the same thing.

[@NogrimStoneson]

TTP applies to snowfalls in canada as well.

[@WilliametcCook]

>"unless I drew little things on the screen" >square Perfect

[@Mojoditsu]

It's exactly what I did with this WoW quest

[@paulj505]

When I was a kid, my first digital art experience was also in Paint, on my old PC with Windows XP. I remember drawing Lion King characters with mouse. Got really good at it. But then I stopped and skill got thrown to trash by brain

[@xilous]

TTP... you learn something new every day

[@brianbru]

Thor was a genius addition to dropped frames.

[@commiecommandermtg]

The Commie Commander here, Wonderful video, excellent topic. It has rooted it self in shit like Autism Speaks as well. When you hear someone trying to "solve the genetics" that's what they are talking about.

[@hulipatsui]

What the barrel quest in warcraft produced was big and flaming D

[@danielhelltz]

people like pictures

[@Xenolord]

CohhCarnage still looks like Gordon Freeman.

[@satsubatsu347]

A rather vascular rocket ship...

[@mrtrickay7111]

anyone else seen the show "mythic Quest"? the TTP scene is genius.

[@wolfshowl5566]

THOR IS LEFT HANDED THOR IS LEFT HANDED!!!!

[@jackloyce]

the camera is flipped, but even then i'm left handed and i use the mouse in my right

[@MrHumannnn]

Looking at it carefully, he's not left handed; his camera is flipped.

[@RudyBleeker]

@@jackloyce I'm left handed too and use my mouse with my right hand as well. I do have a tablet and pen laying around on the left side of my keyboard though, for when that's more convenient. Also, when I was still working in tech support and visited left handed customers on site I always only asked if they had the buttons swapped because I can use a mouse with my left hand just fine and can easily adjust for the buttons being in lefty or righty mode.

[@Rawsilver]

Mythic Quest mentioned TTP. Didn't realize it was a real game dev thing

[@TomtomTM1]

We work on a game (two people) and usually we are in a voice call. When nothing is going on, we both just work, we just stream what we do, but as soon as a discussion starts, both swap to paint. I thought it was a meme at first, but.. yeah. good.

[@TwiejkVR]

TTP in Half life Alyx was insanely fast

[@ZuoKalp]

TIL that TTP is an actual metric used by game developers.

[@Mulley85]

I can confirm I did that with the black powder in WOW

[@elpargo]

You draw with a mousseeeeee , holly crap

[@somnorila9913]

It's somewhat easier. Not as accurate and easy drawing nice lines and curves and whatnot. But a lot easier to find the pointer in the sheet somehow.

[@BButcher-hg4nr]

Its called mouse skill. Thats why he has good aim, too lol

[@joshcook7180]

Man cracked the code for ADHD folks in meetings

[@Cimlite]

Not gonna lie. Just listening to this, I felt the need to start up paint and draw one.

[@horseiv]

Soldiers through history...

[@EzekielSadamir]

The real skill is that he draws straight darn lines in paint at that speed, but I guess I'd get there if I did it as often as he does

[@TonyTheTGR]

1:05 is the whole discussion.

[@3pac-300]

😂 🎯ist he whole repertoire

[@giantsalamander2296]

The captain of the freight ship that blocked the suiz canal drew a dick on the map with the route of the ship before going into the canal

[@Rohdehovedet]

the draw app they showed, what is it? anyone know?

[@sae2705]

Roots of Pacha. The event where you can do cave paintings. I am guilty.

[@argonaut741]

that man just teaches. Natural born teacher

[@gekfurian]

the other three combined don't even reach the testosterone levels of thor

[@86hardluck]

TTP needs to be an official acronym 😅

[@unicorntulkas]

It should be a speedrun category

[@corberus3119]

it already is

[@seiaghen]

what paint app(?) is JP using for Thor to paint to?

[@bobboulden]

Any creative game has the aforementioned TTP (time-to-penis), but games where players can build structures and blow them up also have TTN (time-to-9/11)