Why Quebec's Politics are DIFFERENT

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We often think of politics as being on a spectrum, the right and the left, and interestingly, this spectrum is often a measure of social, political, and economic hierarchy, which originally referred to seating arrangements in the French parliament after the Revolution, but in today's video, we'll be looking at Quebec and why its politics don't often arrange in this right or left spectrum, so make sure you're subscribed and let's get right into it.
As many of you are aware, Quebec is the 2nd most populous province in Canada, and it also has the highest number of native French speakers in the country. They have a long political history, which I'd like to divide into two parts: before the quiet revolution and after the quiet revolution.
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[@GeoNerd.]

Hey! While you're here, might as well like the video! Let me know what you'd like to see next in the comments!

[@stickynorth]

As an Alberta, even a Left-Wing one, I admire Quebec's economic nationalism especially when it comes to Hydro Power and pension funds... Instead of having a reliable low-cost power grid like Quebec, Alberta is constant economic/power chaos due to the highest energy rates in Canada BY FAR... Outside the arctic...

[@GeoNerd.]

While it did bring IMMENSE cost when first introduced, they’ve been a good investment! With Hydro-Quebec, I believe, bringing in $2 billion dollars of dividends last year! I’ve heard though Alberta has been flirting with the idea of having their own pension fund - to see where it will go!

[@sangokudbz79]

@@GeoNerd. 3.5B in 2022!

[@GeoNerd.]

Thanks for the updated numbers! A great investment considering most hydro infrastructure was built in the late 60’s and 70’s!

[@TheFuelInjected]

This is mostly correct but slightly misleading only in the discussion of a public vs private energy grid. When discussing Quebecs electricity prices it is important to note that some of the reasons its prices are so cheap are because they were able to swindle the Labrador government into selling some 5000mw of power from the Churchill Falls station at 1969 prices until 2040 while they export power to the NE US at much higher prices, they have also have had minimal generation capacity development in the last 30 years so consumers are blessed with a Capex light public company while enjoying the benefits of an equalization program that essentially subsidizes cheap Quebec power with other provincial tax dollars as well as federal grants and tax rebates. While on the other side of the equation Alberta has built by far the most generation capacity in the last 20 years so consumers are buying Capex heavy electricity which is currently about double its normal rate ( which forward pricing indicates it will return to in a few short months as nat gas prices return from their absurd levels). This is mostly just to say that if Alberta did switch to a public energy model like Quebec it would not enjoy the same benefits.

[@gwanael34]

Hydro Quebec is honeslty one of the best exemple of a governement nationalizing a service, there are prolems for sure but it's also incredibly effective and cheap compared to any other province.

[@SACREDFlRE]

Very cheap

[@petersilva037]

incredible speech on the topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHzQqHqHaZKtgbM&ab_channel=Cha%C3%AEneduQu%C3%A9bec René Levesque´s sales pitch. explains the reasoning behind the nationalization.

[@jamesmoran8294]

Very nice video! I think Québec is interesting and doesn't get talked about enough, and the change in partisan paradigm is something you wouldn't pickup without a lot of research. I also like how you showed the Anglo-only vote on screen, since they're a sizable minority and are often an afterthought when outsiders think about Québec. A tip for presentations: your speaking style is good, but you're too close to the mic. Being that close gives your presentation a feel that's eerily intimate. You're speaking to an audience, not someone on a couch. I recommend backing up and speaking up a little.

[@GeoNerd.]

Thank you for the kind words and tips! Always trying to improve so thank you! Hope you’ll find my future videos as interesting!

[@s0uverains95]

Une gaffe bonhomme, une gaffe. Le Québec est un P A Y S. Pas une province.

[@SACREDFlRE]

You could argue a nation, but not a country. Y'all be using Canadian money. I remember once I had a friend from Quebec City come to visit me in BC. He was a pure laine Quebecer and was shocked that his money could be used in Western Canada, and that there was French on the other side of the cereal box. We are a country from coast to coast. Leave your hometown and do some traveling my man, you might be surprised to find that English speakers have no problem with you (at all). That the world is wide and maybe some of the things you have been told might be just slightly exaggerated..

[@s0uverains95]

@@SACREDFlRE un pays. Le référendum de 1995 a été acheté par les fédéraux, pis faites pas à semblant que vous avez "aucun problème" avec la nation québécoise. Une majorité d'entre vous veux l'assimilation de tous les francophones d'Amérique du Nord. Tu me parle de monnaie? Combien de pays souverains sont à l'euro et au dollar u.s.? Ton Canada est une illusion coercitive. Vive la liberté. Vive l'indépendance. Vive le Québec libre.

[@FF-ct5dr]

@@SACREDFlRE He wasn't a ''pure laine Quebecer'' as much as he was a full blown simpleton. Anyway, as someone who is fluent in English to the point where you can't really tell where I'm from solely based off my accent, the amount of vitriol I hear targeting Quebec whenever I interact with Anglos is quite astonishing to say the least. Not to say it doesn't go both ways, but still... It really isn't as pretty as you paint it to be.

[@glaframb]

There is many spectrum in the Politics we can not said left-Right up-down over-under. before-after Democratic vs Authoritarian Individual vs Collectivsm Localist vs Globalist Ecologist vs Polluters (Drill Baby Drill) Retrograd vs Progressist Matriarcat vs Patriarcat.

[@GeoNerd.]

A very valid point, it’s true we can still classify Quebec’s politics on any of those spectrums! However the sovereignty vs federalism debate, in Canada at least, is a mostly Quebec thing which is why I took the broader approach to this! But you’re totally correct! 🙏

[@redMaple_QC]

"Previous wrongdoing"? It's still going on.

[@sergicb1533]

So basically it works like in Catalonia's political parties, with the 2 axis Left and Right, Catalanism and Spanishism.

[@GeoNerd.]

You could say so! I’m not as informed on how their political landscape is, however, their situation while maybe more extreme is similar to Quebec’s!

[@barryhaley7430]

Quebec lucked out by loosing the referendums. If Oui had won they would have had t negotiate their departure. Instead they held the rest of Canada hostage with the threat of separation for the last several decades slowly gaining more and more sovereignty and have effectively separated except for passports and the transfer payments and all at the cost of the rest of Canada’s taxpayers. As Legault said when asked why he changed from separatism to federalism “$13 billion annually was a good start”.

[@antoineharvey-boudreault5565]

it kinda did won. 60% francophones voted and the no campaign federal shit is blatantly illegal

[@barryhaley7430]

@@antoineharvey-boudreault5565 What exactly is “blatantly illegal”?

[@antoineharvey-boudreault5565]

going against principle of self determination. Seriously its a horror story@@barryhaley7430

[@antoineharvey-boudreault5565]

the amount of money that was dumped in this shit and al lthe misinformation just thikning about makes me wanna be independent even more

[@barryhaley7430]

@@antoineharvey-boudreault5565 Really, but what was “blatantly illegal”? And you say 60 % of Francophones voted. Ok, but there weren’t enough for the Oui to succeed. Instead they achieved what bullshit “sovereignty association” without any negotiation and force the French language across the country and all at the rest of Canada taxpayers expense. Sovereignty Association was for Quebec to keep the Canadian dollar and passport. Please separate. Quebec would be very successful on its own.

[@sled9263]

Quebec should just leave Canada. We’d be better off without them. They do nothing but take.

[@sylvainb2366]

That's your opinion but the facts are quite different.

[@herps588]

Understandable, but strangely many english canadians suddently wanted us to stay when it was actually time to vote for independence...

[@shauncameron8390]

And Canada should just become the US's 51st State.

[@kforest2745]

Well because they’re trying to maintain their culture, which is perfectly fine it’s understandable especially as so many cultures are lost the languages the way of life you name it. If you move there and want to see changes that suit you then that’s a conflict, so you’d have to go elsewhere that shares the same values. You can’t please everyone that’s not realistic and that doesn’t solve problems it creates problems. You can have general laws, but the moment you get into policies it becomes about high maintenance people and fraud.

[@thephilosophersstoned3796]

Speaking as a son of two Quebecois, their culture can get fucked. Never in my life have I experienced such thorough racism as the few times I've had to live in Quebec. It's bad enough being a Native Half Breed, but heaven help you if you're outed as an Ontarien. You can defend your culture without being a fucking dickweasel incessantly to any non french or anyone who isn't "Quebecois" enough for them.

[@masterbaiter1688]

KA- BECK, why is it so hard for non Canadians to say it right?

[@masterbaiter1688]

At 1:54 you said it right!!! Now say it like that normally. Quebec English spelling vs French pronunciation is the same way you get China out of the spoken word Qing

[@gwanael34]

That dude is probably from quebec tbh you can tell by the accent.

[@GeoNerd.]

I say it that way as a majority of my audience is english-based and probably have never heard it the right way, I switch! Mais je connais la prononciation française!!

[@Ashloup]

I think this isn't very accurate anymore. With the internet and social media meaning freer access to non-francophone culture + Brexit showing what kind of economic woes befall a country who de-federated, people have come to terms with the fact that sovereignty is just not worth it. I think that in 2023 it's more along class lines than anything else, with the CAQ representing the haves, and Québec Solidaire representing the have nots.

[@shauncameron8390]

Mostly city-dwelling welfare recipients.

[@Rene.Mortel]

Nice video, thanks for sharing! Quebec politics is quite complicated and so is our history. Maurice Duplessis started the Quiet Revolution in some ways. His legacy is controversial - for good reasons - but still, we owe him the autonomy and confidence needed at the time. He protected our legislature from Ottawa's interference, relegating public services to the Church for the better (protecting our language and culture) and the worse (the abuse on First Nations, children, women and the Grande Noiceur). He gave Quebec its power of taxation, necessary for building the modern State. Quebec's flag was voted by Duplessis before Canada had its own, we used the Union Jack before. All things said, he had no real economic ambitions for us and was perpetuating the nefarious Catholic loser mentality.

[@GeoNerd.]

Of course, Duplessis is a complicated period with a bunch of amazing institutions that started but he kept the population powerless, it’s quite debatable how positive or negative his impact was! I hope you’ll enjoy more of my videos! 🙏

[@Rene.Mortel]

@@GeoNerd. Yes, very debatable. Nothing is all black and white. Hydro Québec, for example, was created before Jean Lesage, by liberal Adélard Godbout during a parenthesis between the two Duplessis governments. Nationalization was completed later in the 1960s with René Lévesque as Lesage's Natural Resources Minister. And guess what, it was promised by Duplessis 🤞 lol I was born in the 90s and my Grandma had 13 kids, to give you an idea of society's evolution in just a few decades. Duplessis' death was a liberation.

[@purethinking269]

Also, quebec gets excessive money from the federal govt to afford it's lifestyle. While hydro quebec flooded many Indian lands, for hydro which they sell and sometimes floid but never build,, they stop any movement of oil, gas thru their province . Except what they need. Meaning they are very self centered and selfish people.

[@boptillyouflop]

Quebec gets the same money in transfer payments per capita as Manitoba, New-Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI, yet you guys never complain about THOSE provinces. And yeah, pipeline projects create strong divisions between fossil fuel provinces and non-fossil fuel provinces, but it's hardly specific to Quebec - the Coastal GasLink Wet'suwet'en debacle was in BC.

[@antoineharvey-boudreault5565]

you guys exagerate peirequation at the benefit of ur narrative

[@purethinking269]

@antoineharvey-boudreault5565 not at all. Quebec gets way more transfer money ftom the feds, than all the other provinces combined. That's for starts.

[@purethinking269]

@boptillyouflop quebec gets $7.4 billion of 14 billion in equalization payments. Don't try to spin it with per capita garbage. Unlike the provinces you mention quebec can get off any time, but why. Free money from canada.

[@SACREDFlRE]

Quebec also has as many beaurocrats as the entire state of California, which supports many millions more people