WHY Randy Orton Got Mr Kennedy Fired (DESERVED?) | What Went Wrong

[@KayfabeGames]

Randy Orton pulled a "Ohhh, you got me, brother!"

[@the_intolerance]

LMAO that's a great comparison goddamn

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Right in that palumboism stomach Randy has now 😂

[@bronsontaylor4203]

Randy Hogan XD

[@RyanCMcD]

First thing I thought of, glad I'm not the only one lol.

[@hyperchord]

Why would RKO want Kennedy gone?

[@dmalak4509]

Kennedy and MVP had Undertaker’s seal of approval while working on Smackdown. When Ken was drafted to Raw, Taker warned him about the “politics” of that show. Both Ken and MVP began to “suck” once they got drafted to the red brand. Even as a teen at the time, I was baffled at the sudden decline of both. I always preferred Smackdown since the brand split. And since listening to wrestling shoots all these years, it makes sense that Smackdown was better. Look at the main event scene. You had wrestlers willing to do business and elevate talent.

[@HongKongEclectic]

In that mid-2000s era, Smackdown was by far the best show for matches. I enjoyed it but RAW was just meh. Prior to the Benoit ‘incident’, Smackdown was red hot.

[@mio87]

I remember that Ken Kennedy did hurt Takers elbow in a dark match

[@JTG-wt8eb]

You perfectly summed up how I felt.

[@tcsbaseball1]

when did taker warn Kennedy about the politics of raw? never heard that story before

[@johnjacobs4254]

Dude I noticed the decline too. Kennedy seemed like a shell of himself on RAW and was booked like crap.

[@phillipbailey2525]

Remember when Randy backdropped one of the Singh Brothers onto the announce table neck first and he just did an “oops” face. 😂

[@VazzVegas]

And Randy didn't get fired for that. It's all politics in wrestling, sadly.

[@rm22.02]

@@VazzVegaswell it’s Randy Orton. Of course he isn’t going to get fired, he’s one of the biggest names in WWE history. Kennedy never had that kind of leverage backstage or with management

[@jeremyvisser3877]

​@VazzVegas, yeah, let's fire a top 5 star for dropping a jobber on his head. That's wild, it's not ballet accidents happen. If you're a mid 20s star who is being pushed to the moon, with a bad attitude at the time you'd stooge off someone you think hurt you.

[@MH-pr6bn]

⁠@@rm22.02Nobody ever argued Kennedy had as much leverage was a bigger star. Obviously the point is the double standard. Orton having more pull feeds into that

[@BLSfan2000]

Randy Orton has gotten away with so much in his career. Like it's been stated it's politics

[@i.still.function3463]

I think the real beef between Ken and Randy was about who had the worst Tribal back tattoo. 😂

[@Snyper1405]

Shut up kid

[@thelettern]

So true Ken takes the cake there, bright red like what was he thinking 🤣🤣

[@countquackula8539]

If Cena had botched that move, Orton would've stayed quiet. It was backstage politics.

[@i10twin]

No Kennedy was trash

[@T.H.U.G]

exactly

[@robertkirkpatrick3092]

Cena and Orton are really good friends. I've wrestled before. Getting hurt or potatoed by someone you know is more forgiving than someone you don't know who you're trusting with your life.

[@RetroXray]

But randy didn't get hurt

[@GenXFarmer77]

How could Cena botched the move if he wasn't even in the ring 😂

[@vileluca]

Randy botched his jump. Kennedy didnt do anything wrong here.

[@planexshifter]

That was my take- Randy jumped harder than Kennedy was expecting-

[@spoogtastic]

Exactly my thoughts as well.

[@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour]

Ie. Randy sandbagged him.

[@Papellxhase]

@@FOPBUMEGGu & I both seen the clip a million times. Orton was out there leaping like a frog once Kennedy hit that move on him , no one told orton to jump that high lmao. He landed safely & protested Kennedy dropped em on his head when his head didn’t touch the ring😂. Kennedy & a few other people backstage watched the footage & they all agreed that orton over reacted & they tried showing Vince but Vince didn’t care & did what orton wanted.

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

Kennedy SA'd Michael Cole I think Vince really liked Kennedy

[@ValensHawke]

Stevie Richards: The John Madden of breaking down spots.

[@planexshifter]

Boom! And right here…. It’s goes whooop and Boom!

[@baconatorrodriguez4651]

Manning or Romo.

[@42069LT]

Ken picked Randy up and... BOOM!

[@ShrexyGuy]

Madden wasnt a liar. Ken was a roidhead. He failed a test and was canned.

[@MadOmega]

If I had a guess. The shoulder bump pinched a nerve and sent a jolt up to his neck. Making Randy think he landed on his head/neck. Politics made Randy think it was from Ken being unsafe.

[@gullreefclub]

Something also to think about is Stevie telling the story about Ken bear hugging and lifting him could of tweaked his neck/shoulder and as a result the impact from the suplex really hurt/ stung

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

I thought this whole thing was that nobody was supposed to do anything to Orton at all because he was so delicate and this move was on the no list. But Orton shouldn't have even been in there in that case.

[@TrueNomadSkies]

Yeah, it's very possible that neither of em were lying and that Orton got hurt without it being obvious to others looking on and without Kennedy being sloppy. My biggest injuries in sports, work, life, etc have all been that way including breaking my wrist playing soccer. I was the goalie and I think someone fell on me after I went for a save, but honestly I don't remember. Also messed up my neck rather badly in wrestling practice after slipping on some water. Stuff happens.

[@richieadams6701]

​@@TrueNomadSkiesyeah, I've been a pro wrestler for 15 years and I've got hurt during the weirdest times. Stuff does happen

[@bashcrash9148]

Cena was selling the alleged “botch” even before Randy did. Ken was set-up here.

[@Papellxhase]

Once Kennedy returned a few days prior u can see the animosity or ortons face & how he walked to the back like yeah I have something for u😂. It was reported a lot of top guys didn’t like a rookie coming in & taking their spot. That’s how special Kennedy was. Guy was over as a heel & a face, could talk his ass off on the mic & was solid in ring with the right presence. Orton nor cena wasn’t gonna let a guy come in who wasn’t 5 years into the company take over their spots. Im more pissed at Vince since Vince liked Kennedy a lot & named him after him😂 but yeah ken was set up for sure

[@blazemegatron919]

Good catch, Cena's over acting really does make it obvious.

[@nunya3607]

Idk Cena was selling that Kennedy just slammed Orton and he's going to get a hot tag. Its not till Orton sits up on his knees that Cena's face changes.

[@hanasong1519]

​@@Papellxhase It's hard to feel threatened by a guy that's already injury prone at that point and screwed up multiple plans because of it. Had to been something else.

[@shadycnetwork]

​@@blazemegatron919 a bunch of marks talking about something as facts that they weren't there to witness. I like Stevie and other wrestlers talking about it cuz they were actually there. When fans comment and say things like I think this or I think that. Nobody cares what you think. You are a random person with no firsthand secondhand or even third hand knowledge

[@adamburke4738]

Orton might have matured over the years, but that doesn’t change the fact he basically politicked to get Kennedy fired.

[@retro2485]

Phuck Ken ma boi orton said he unsafe phuck-em!

[@smithmeister]

Mr Kennedy chopped me in the chest in a pub in Preston, England, during a WrestleMania 31 watch party. I can confirm he is a safe worker.

[@whitworth5s248]

Getting railroaded isn't unique to the wrestling business. I got this shit once in my first career. If someone wants you gone, they'll take literally anything you do, pretend it was the most heinous breach of trust imaginable, and gaslight you into thinking you're horrible at your job to justify giving you the boot. Personally I would rather they just tell me to my face that they don't like me and they want me gone without all the psychological bullshit added making me insecure in my work from that point forward. It's bad enough to take a person's job away from them, but to then also make them second guess themselves from then on is particularly scummy.

[@broken_blade2087]

​@@decollector95😂

[@crazyvintagetoys3062]

Not to mention any companies but I’m going to throw one out Lubrizol does this exact thing.

[@rickyvenegas9286]

They also misdiagnosed Ken’s injury

[@shawnfauth6614]

Really this is Dr Mispractice. Dr should go to jail for misdiagnosis

[@Papellxhase]

@@shawnfauth6614it was reported that it was some backstage politicking in regards to Ken’s misdiagnosed injury & they “lost the Injury report” & couldn’t show him🤣. Once ken found out himself the damage had already been done. Kennedy was so damn good they did everything in their power to make this guy not succeed & fail in the wwe. He’d be a damn megastar in the wwe today

[@alfiedomino5157]

@@Papellxhase imagine promos between mr kennedy and la knight

[@JohnTune-u2x]

@@PapellxhaseFacts Mr Kennedy wasn’t just better than them on the mic, in the ring he was way better. The Green Bay Plunge was a crazy finisher, he also did a nice Swanton

[@ValiantWrestling]

@@shawnfauth6614 *Malpratice. malpractice /ˌmalˈpraktɪs/ noun improper, illegal, or negligent professional behaviour. "victims of medical malpractice"

[@tullyDT]

That was some Hulk Hogan level bollocks from Randy

[@Papellxhase]

Im sure if Randy could look back on it he’d admit he was wrong. He was a little brat that Vince spoiled back then, him & cena both. Orton was a piece of shit with an anger & ego problem.

[@gerardovega4641]

​@@Papellxhaseyes, I'm surprised dude still got a push and was never fired. I think the most he got was a suspension.

[@liamdoyle8680]

'Hulk Hogan level bollocks' is a quote I'm going to use from now on. Cheers!

[@danielwinters7181]

This was during the era of Diva Orton

[@Drew_D]

I believe that Maria said Orton was the biggest diva backstage.

[@fupalover]

This is why Stevie is the best Wrestling youtuber. Others wouldn't dare talk about this (Undertaker or Maven.)

[@cristianvictoria74]

Yeah i think they just keep to situations that has to with them. There is nothing wrong with that.

[@mkultra5752]

​Cowards way of thinking like you😅​@@cristianvictoria74

[@Mixture420]

Stevie is what we want in a wrestler KZbinr always keeping it real.

[@lukesmith9692]

Undertaker is fake

[@fupalover]

@lukesmith9692 VERY fake.

[@astronomyphilly]

Orton was a bit of a knob with his temper to be fair, and more than once. Mistakes happen. Guys a dick.

[@travismcdonald6576]

Orton has been stale for 15 years. Same matches and comatose promos.

[@wpgeiger]

@@travismcdonald6576 thought I was the only one who felt that.

[@devrayne6770]

Randy was also protected, while other wrestlers couldn’t get away with half the things he reportedly did when he was younger.

[@Papellxhase]

@@devrayne6770not to mention he got hit with the wellness policy himself & was a bully backstage & also had an anger problem which became outrageous & Vince didn’t bother to tell him to calm tf down. Vince was the reason orton acted how he acted. Given recently with jevon botching that finish on nxt , if that was 2009 orton would’ve had the poor guy fired…

[@Meepie_Playz]

Cena & Randy both drew in money, Kennedy sucks.

[@VazzVegas]

Randy and Cena at that time were divas and complained about more than one talent they didn't like when they got the chance. Say what you will about them now, but at that time you would have had to be sure you babied them and ensured they were happy; otherwise, you'd end up like Kennedy or Alex Reily, etc.

[@Wolversquall]

They did not want Kennedy and Carlito getting the attention they deserved

[@5SK.RoyaltyTV]

You're right. I always thought Cena was a piece of shit as a wrestler and a human being. Orton I had respect for until I saw a video of Orton using a racial slur. The more I learn about Randy the more I hate him.

[@AnneHathawayRules]

John and Randy were the Shawn Michaels of the 2000s

[@flyingjew2994]

I never saw an issue with that. They were drawing in money so almost everyone else who wasn't deserved to be looked down upon.

[@Darrakkii]

lmfao "they were divas and complained" bro Vince doesn't let alone get to the top without having a great relationship with him. Cena and Orton - the companies biggest stars - gave Vince their honest opinion on Kennedy - they didn't tell Vince to fire him😂 they didnt say don't push him or bury him or anything😂 if anything you're being a bigger diva than they were

[@Powerball247]

You should review the Move where Triple H literally throws Randy over the top rope on his shoulder completely wrong, but because it’s Hunter, all was forgiven quite quickly.

[@gerardovega4641]

Was that the match where orton got Injured?

[@johnnykame]

@@gerardovega4641yep. Broke his clavicle and got sidelined for months. Then he reinjured it while he recovering and remained sidelined for far longer.

[@KaybyHC]

I believe the story was that Orton had a bad left shoulder at the time and asked Kennedy to drop him opposite to normal so he didn't have to bump on the bad shoulder. Orton bumped according to that, but Kennedy dropped him normally causing Orton to land on the bad shoulder. Then political shenanigans. I can't remember the direct source, but Kennedy said it on a shoot interview somewhere.

[@Paparoach493]

I heard this aswell about the shoulder.

[@TakeARideWithMe]

That would make sense..

[@bigron8896]

Good someone finally called the SOB on it. I've said this for years.

[@ohenekojo2561]

Yes. Orton is a modern day Hogan. In the worst way possible.

[@troy8613]

Imagine being a grown man and taking food off peoples table because you don’t like their personality?

[@xtripsx11]

I can only imagine Randy is an egomaniac

[@7cassandraecw378]

One of the least deserved egomaniacs. There isn't a single thing he has pulled off in the ring that couldn't be done by almost every other wrestler in the business.

[@Youtube-C.I.A]

You slow motion video analysis and quote of "head never touched" Reminds me of the JFK movie court scene "Totally inconsistent with the shot from the depository. Again... back and to the left… back and to the left… back and to the left… back and to the left."

[@MrNigeriaboy]

The fact Randy was unprofessional himself, constantly getting suspended and still had the stroke to mess up careers is crazy. Slowed Kofi's heat down for 10 yrs.

[@RawPowerComics]

We could have had 15 years of Mr. Kennedy, and instead got Blandy Snoreton.

[@TheAstonishingly]

Orton, Cena, & Shawn all played roles in Kennedy getting cut, & as Stevie said, management was already souring on him because of feedback Cena & Shawn gave on him

[@Papellxhase]

I hate it for ken since taker who really saw something in Kennedy told him about raw once he got drafted to raw & that the politics on raw are far more higher & different than smackdown. With this warning from the deadman , Kennedy was basically set up literally. If this didn’t happen I’m sure somewhere down the line orton would’ve derailed his push anyways causing him to get released. Im just glad in a short amount of time he displayed such a unique charisma as a bad & good guy & went on to have a good career in tna

[@ElHeffay1974]

I don't get why Stevie Richards isn't training somewhere. An absolute asset in terms of breaking items down and going through everything step by step. That kind of knowledge is priceless.

[@michaelistheman1533]

For sure, boy we hated him wayyyy back in the day .. 😅😅.. but all these years later what a great guy he is

[@laurenced2916]

They viewed Kennedy as a threat to their spots

[@paulcarpenter7844]

Yes because he sucked

[@j.k.1239]

lol. You people are delusional...

[@Newportnews98]

⁠@@j.k.1239very delusional

[@dropout818]

And they kept their spot well ratings bombed for years, just look at the crowd during their Royal Rumble 2014 match.

[@superpharaoh1]

Anderson was starting to become popular as hell and they figured how to stop it

[@HellBanned]

Randy buried more talent than Triple H and John Cena combined and yet nobody ever says shit

[@alternative7586]

Fun fact: CM Punk caught Randy Orton trying to bury him at the 2011 Royal Rumble backstage. Punk had to go pee during his runout and when he did the GTS on Orton, he accidentally got some knee in his face and asked "You good" and Randy said yeah. After CM Punk went to the bathroom he found him talking to Arn Anderson and said "Man what are you doing you said I was ok!"

[@SamIAm-p5r]

Idk if you've seen it but after Punk's return they both sat down for a video to discuss that incident, so the hatchet is seemingly buried *now*

[@D1G1T47]

He had a incident with kofi as well

[@alternative7586]

@@D1G1T47 you mean the concussion at the Royal Rumble 3 years later that he didn't want Kofi to feel bad about?

[@D1G1T47]

@@alternative7586 It had something to do with the rko getting botched or something so kofi’s push got diminished but years later they made it into a storyline

[@winterronin4778]

I remember when punk made a reference to chris benoit in 2011

[@sithlordo66]

Cena had an issue....yeah Kennedy was getting pushed

[@j.k.1239]

Glorified midcarder.Kennedy at best would have been a upper heel for Cena to overcome.

[@JackBarrBaxter]

@@j.k.1239Who, Cena?

[@j.k.1239]

@@JackBarrBaxter Copium.

[@TheNinthHeart]

@@j.k.1239?

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

​@@j.k.1239well it could have been a compelling rivalry. I was a fan of Kennedy at the time, he had the it factor

[@Big.Stepper.]

You guys cracked this one wide open. It's too bad Vince didn't spend a little time studying the tape.

[@dontaesgameroom2558]

Randy jumped higher than Ken expected and you can see his hand slide up his hamstring to his groin area causing Ken to lose control on the drop in my opinion it happens

[@wingedhussar1453]

Yea but thrs wby u hold the wrestler

[@byswartz]

What stood out to me: 1. Randy let's go of the headlock early and slides his left hand to Ken's shoulder, which positioned his elbow behind him. 2. Ken might be lifting more from Randy's leg than his body, which would cause the rotation, especially if his arm was low on Randy's body.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

Mr. Kennedy being fired is what turned me off about Randy Orton and John Cena. Both are WWE legends but it seems they, (including Shawn Michaels and others) complained about Ken all the time. Since he got drafted to RAW, Ken wasn't the Mr. Kennedy that had a magnificent run with Taker and Batista. I just wish WWE brought Mr. Kennedy back because he's really talented. I would like to see Mr. Kennedy vs LA Knight or other remarkable talkers and talents of today.

[@j.k.1239]

Nobody cares.

[@Newportnews98]

He wasn’t a draw

[@dumpsterfire79]

Kennedy is really slow and out of shape now. Not that he was ever a physique guy, but he just looks bad now

[@TheNinthHeart]

@@j.k.1239??

[@TheNinthHeart]

@@Newportnews98who?

[@Krokodilius]

randy has the worst shoulders in the history of mankind.

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

He shouldn't have been in there at all then, just on the apron for his team

[@jamalwalker04]

Orton was one of those guys that would've killed himself for Vince. He was in an interview not too long ago after Vince stepped down talking about how by 2017 his back had gotten bad but he was still working just to make Vince happy. ​@@BigBadJerryRogers

[@mnmfreak502]

I think Randy put too much air in his jump

[@brianmcdonald7017]

100%

[@Treyski4410]

Bullshit he does the same thing with Cena and has never got hurt

[@wingedhussar1453]

Sure but also ken should have held him not just dropping him

[@Deificus]

This was absolutely Randy's fault. The position he was in as Kennedy was beginning to fall back is what you would see from a luchador over-rotating to counter. Randy isn't that guy, he's not going to be landing on his feet. Kennedy can't stop Randy from hurting himself here.

[@memohdfromwwe_]

I was there at STAPLES Center that night, didn't see what went wrong until the next day or so. But WWE drew 9,000 fans within 6 days of tickets going on sale for an event that was booked at the last minute.

[@scottofthemasons4358]

F***ing mark

[@zepherscotty]

I LOVED kennedy. I thought he was a shoe in to be a top guy.

[@Big.Stepper.]

Your cohost is correct. Randy messed up and blamed Ken

[@MoodyMafia]

As a former Indy Ref, what I see is Ken's LEFT hand pulling the physical momentum juuuust enough to cause the turn. In training, I've been turned directions in the air that I hadn't been picked up in as well and ended up with a neck injury that took a few years to really loosen back up. It was the structure that supported my neck internally that essentially 'knotted up' but felt like my neck was broken.

[@rogerchang3491]

Thanks for doing this review because it gave a lot of good insight on what really happened. This kinda shows that Orton and others had it out for Mr. Kennedy. That they were just looking for an excuse to fire him and they finally got it done. Richards says that guys like Cena, Orton, and Triple H. Has their spots secure so why would they be afraid of their spots being taking. That should be the case but sadly it isn’t true. Because they have been multiple stories and reports that stated that those 3 were one of the first ones to play backstage politics. Especially Triple H because it had to be about him.

[@justinhicks1248]

So glad I found this channel. Awesome stuff

[@Fender178]

Randy Orton Pretty much pulled a Hulk Hogan against the Undertaker during Survivor Series 91 because Hogan claimed that the Tombstone Piledriver caused his head to hit the steel chair but his head was no where near touching that steel chair. Which really put Taker on edge because he thought he did something wrong.

[@Dad-Gad]

Cena and Orton are firmly in the scumbag camp imo .

[@cfrooneyfan10]

Honestly, it kinda looks like both are a little at fault. You're right on the setup and the lift. Everything looks perfect. But at the peak of the suplex, Randy is slightly tilted to his left. I'm guessing (and maybe because of the shoulder issues y'all alluded to) that he tried to turn slightly back to his right to take a clean back bump. At the same time, Kennedy is trying to slide him off for the clean landing on the mat and not on him. And it looks like he slightly overcompensates on the rotation to his right, bringing his right hand down too soon and at the wrong angle. Due to both parts of this, Randy ends up damn near perpendicular to Kennedy. Love the channel guys. Stevie, you have always been a true one man. Keep it up.

[@Haddley333]

I used to watch this over and over. Orton politicking with the rest of the boys to ruin Ken’s career. I hate people like this. They’re at work places all the time

[@oozziehalifa4435]

They botched Mr. Kennedys career. He was on his way!! Then they cut him short on his run 🤦🏾

[@johnb3772]

This was when Stan Kronke cancelled the show in Denver so McMahon went to LA

[@odonisogzina3543]

The swipe randy did before falling back down was hilarious to me hahaha

[@thesaltnation5570]

I don’t think Ken should have got canned like that he was over for a character and to see what he did in tna he could have easily did it in wwe

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Work on your English.

[@Jeff-ge3vj]

The one thing that I noticed when Randy is going up, he looks like he’s twisting his body and that could contribute why he landed that way

[@Papellxhase]

He did it on purpose jumping High, he didn’t want ken there. He wanted him gone & was pissed when he found out he returned in 2009, just look at Randy’s face once Kennedy comes back in 09.. Randy’s face is sort of I got something for u I’m getting u out of here

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

We all know Randy Orton prior to 2013 or so was an absolute menace. This is why I don't feel bad for Hulk Hogan absolutely teaching him the business. He probably saw how immature he was and figured he couldn't trust him as we know Hogan never puts anybody over that he doesn't trust

[@Snyper1405]

Hogan who 🤣🤣

[@jcbradley13]

Richards said what I was thinking: LA Knight is using Mr.Kennedy’s gimmick. Also Stevie Richards is awesome.

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

I've watched enough Ken Anderson matches on the Indies and in TNA and everywhere else to know that this guy is as good as Cena and Orton and everyone else. WWE missed out on a superstar. The guy was an a+ talent

[@suoquainen]

The Green Bay Plunge from the second rope was one of the best moves. Shane Mercer's Moonsault & Battery is a similar move, but reverse.

[@alanrichardson6561]

Mr. Kennedy aka Mr. Anderson is the original. LA Knight aka Eli Drake is the knock off version.

[@Snyper1405]

L.A knight is an attitude era fanboy playing cosplay in the Miz's ring

[@y2taner429]

7:30 the young Englishman shows his brilliance

[@Simonskilamb]

This is definitely that generation's "ohh you got me brother" moment.

[@Guru316]

If a guy were to be fired over one botch, then 90% of wrestlers would have been fired over the years. It was 100% politics.

[@andregordon2599]

Loved every second of this Steve. Great content.

[@SPNlocal]

It seems like Orton just through him under the bus.

[@Jason-el9ot]

Nice production. Alot better from the last time i tuned in

[@goodmooneung]

The question Stevie asks us at 18:40 I think has to be about Jeff Hardy. No way he was caught less times than the times he was actually suspended for the wellness policy.

[@BDavisfromthe606]

Man, being a 5 year old I hated you Stevie coming out as Right to Censor. But now that I'm 29 and get to see all these breakdowns of my childhood is fucking amazing. Much love to you.

[@king_invictus]

Stevie breaking it down like madden 😂😂😂

[@Snyper1405]

He's always complaining about wrestlers

[@billytee8052]

Really enjoying your channel Stevie

[@Pyrogully]

Kennedy had more potential

[@Hunkzilla]

To think that WWE got rid of a upper midcarder /occasional main eventer at the behest of a guy who peaked in 2009 ? Especially when you consider how much WWE struggled with its upper midcard /main event scene during the 2010s . ...

[@Mykamania]

Randy Orton- "You got me Brother"

[@greghill00]

What I like about this show is we have a well-informed and inquisitive wrestling fan working with an articulate and experienced wrestler who enjoys delivering the insights.

[@HerculesCoronaBorealis]

Always loved Stevie Richard's. What an awesome talent he was and had great moxy and charisma. He could speak and wrestle really well. As a Podcaster, he has this great ability to passionately deep dive into the subtle details of matches and the buisness. You can tell he is very detailed and focused.

[@pkizzlebeats]

Randy smacked tf outta Ken right after he took the bump 😂😂😂

[@ericwilliams7476]

I think maybe the Jerseys they are wearing affected maybe the follow thru of the move and Kennedy may have lost control of him

[@SmithCommaBenjamin]

I worked with Kennedy in the indies for a few years. When he got to WWE, we were all happy for him... then the bell rang. He wrestled the same style as he did in the indies... He never got better. He never made past wristlocks and arm drags. It was only a matter of time before he hurt someone. We were shocked- he made to the WWE and never thought he'd need to improve his work?

[@justinlucas7]

To quote Booker T "you got to make it in the locker room before you make it in the ring"

[@DavidThornton-m8p]

I’ve been saying it for years, that Randy Orton knew he was going to do this before the show even started. No idea about locker room issues, but Ken had the charisma that Randy could only dream of.

[@matttrent946]

always felt like he got screwed over. a lot was falling apart for him (injuries, scandals, etc) prior to the Cena Orton incident which could have just been them seeing the perfect time to strike and get him out of the picture and WWE. speculation, yes. but it was still a huge shock for me at the time. the man was golden from what i had seen of him.

[@THE_CDN]

Kennedy got over faster than anyone wanted him to. He wasn't a Vinny product. He was, therefore, doomed to never get over. That belly to back suplex was perfectly placed: all shoulders and back. Not a Saito, which is on the shoulders and on the neck. Orton was being a ditch.

[@dmalak4509]

According to Ken, Undertaker warned him before heading to Raw after the draft. Politics of Raw was a lot different than Smackdown.

[@THE_CDN]

@@dmalak4509 When even Undertaker says Raw was a political sh!tshow, you know things are bad. Both Randy and Cena buried people who threatened their spot.

[@Snyper1405]

Ditch? 😅😅😅

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

lets all remember Orton dislocated his own shoulder slamming his arms on the mat before an RKO.

[@z-merc1268]

Randy took a COMPLETE 'Drop-on-head'from the SAME MOVE from William Regal a few weeks later in England!!!! Lol

[@CodenameRawTV]

I can't believe there's no "I'll show you, you'll see!" at the end of your intro....c'mon! 😂

[@FiendishFantasy]

One of the greatest entrances ever, MRRRRRRRRR KENNNNEDY... KENNEDY!

[@hungchoonghow5857]

Ah, the intricacies of office politics. Beautiful stuff.

[@user-wg6ik1wi6s]

I think Randy Orton is too big for Mr Kennedy. Orton is like 6'5" and Kennedy is barely 6"

[@pepeshadilay]

Stevie is very SMART!!!

[@Evolocia]

I remember an interview somewhere way back that everyone was told to not do a belly to back on Orton because of his back and Ken decided to do it anyway

[@KevinEllisGuitars]

❤Stevie’s show!

[@benjaminscott8198]

This was the Orton era when his ego and bad attitude made him unwatchable for me. While you were going through the segment piece by piece, I thought Orton over rotated, similar to what James thought.

[@Snyper1405]

You hypocrites make me sick

[@gamingdoppelganger1414]

I have a different take on this. Randy Orton is a spoiled little baby that doesn’t like taking big bumps even if you didn’t like Kennedy, you could clearly see he had it. And just like sharks in infested waters they could see him slowly coming up in the ranks and tried stop it before anything could happen. That’s my two cents on it.

[@oozziehalifa4435]

MVP and Kennedy were both better on Smackdown. That’s a solid point.

[@Benny5000]

This match has Batista and Cena in it and we’re talking about Kennedy on steroids?😂

[@cwav4718]

do more of these "bump breakdowns" whole new series 💴

[@MrAgentRager]

man growing up kennedy was WHITE HOT at this point....amazing heel that i hated to love....

[@danielwinters7181]

Remember when Nakamura dumped cena on his head? What did cena do? Shake it off kept it professional and shook his hand. Hopefully Orton has learned this lesson

[@rerun4president]

Stevie, I think the answer to the mystery is either one of two possibilities. Either Randy botched the jump by pushing off his left foot, more than his right foot or it has to be the jerseys. Those jerseys are made of nylon, polyester, spandex, and other materials. Since wrestlers are use to fighting shirtless, it’s very rare to see two wrestlers fighting with a shirt. And it’s extremely rare to see two wrestlers fighting with a jersey. I think, due to lack of experience with jersey’s, Randy simply started slipping to one side because more weight was on that side. Think of somebody slipping when they step on a puddle of water it happens so instantly that the same could be said when there’s too much weight and both are wearing jerseys that immediately slips when he lifted and there’s a lot of weight on the shoulder. Thoughts?

[@justincrediblefantasy8263]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thinks Ken got screwed. It also bothers me that Orton had that much pull backstage. Ken was such an underrated talent, definitely didn’t deserve what he got in his time in WWE. Thank god for TNA utilizing him better.