Why Saturday's loss to Michigan AGAIN PROVES: PENN STATE WILL NEVER BE ELITE UNDER JAMES FRANKLIN!

On today's show ‪@AaronTorres‬ explains why Penn State's meltdown vs. Michigan is PROOF James Franklin will never win big under James Franklin!

[@AaronTorres]

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[@markmudget3794]

Pissing Michigan off royally maybe wasn’t the best idea 🤷‍♂️

[@ct3343]

Michigan might have a more secure win with Harbaugh on the sideline. But in many ways they struggled with Penn State. Can’t say I was overly impressed!

[@lakecityransom]

​@@ct3343 We aren't trying to show off our highest power level yet. Wait for Ohio State for that.

[@ct3343]

2 weeks from now! Looking forward to seeing it. PSU did give you guys a run for your money tho even with our terrible head coach😂

[@lakecityransom]

@@ct3343 FWIW Penn State is still a top 10 school in number of draft picks and only slightly behind Michigan. I always consider you guys a worthy adversary.

[@andrewengels9107]

@@ct3343 15-0, B1G Champs, Rose Bowl Champs, National Champions. Very Impressive!

[@KenMac-ui2vb]

Michigan fan here. Your defense is for real. Your offense needs a wr room and hopefully your qb can get some seasoning... but Franklin. Hooo baby, thank your for that guy. I can count 3 decisions that blew my mind. unreal.

[@tuckermcmurray1270]

A rare sighting of a Michigan fan who saw the game for what it was. Michigan was better today no doubt congrats on the win. The Harbaugh thing was handled poorly by the Big10 and should have been left to the ncaa to investigate. Congrats again

[@DeshCanter]

Both defenses are elite. The difference? Sherrone Moore saw that his game plan was working and stuck with it. “We’re running and winning. Stop it and we’ll adjust. You’re not going to stop it? Ok.” James Franklin wouldn’t adjust to what seemed obvious to everyone watching the game.

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

Sorry, but when Michigan basically said that they don't need to pass the ball one single time in the entire 2nd half, I think that's a pretty clear sign that the defense is not elite. I think it's a 'pretty good ' defense and has much speed and athleticism at the 2nd level, and I'll leave it at that....

[@jamesbowen8960]

He's the worst clock manager I've ever seen at any coaching level.

[@DeshCanter]

@@ericmeeuwsen2226 You’re right, you are sorry. This “anything to denigrate Michigan at any cost” schtick is getting tiresome. When Ohio State beats Notre Dame, it’s this major win. (Nevermind that Michigan played Notre Dame 44 times from 1887 to 2019, with a record of 25-17-1, including beating them 45-14 in 2019, causing the Irish to pull out of the rivalry until 2033, but I digress), until Louisville and 4-loss Clemson do it too, and more decisively. When Ohio limps past Penn State in Columbus, it’s this epic, gritty win, despite both teams looking like crap. Michigan stuck it to Penn State. They came up with a plan, went up, never trailed, and ran out the clock with a power run game. Unlike Ohio State, we didn’t give up 186 yards passing and several big plays. James Franklin had to pull QB throwbacks and other chicanery out of his butt just to stay within 2 scores. Did he make some bad offensive calls? Sure, but it’s clear why. He was far more afraid of the Michigan defense in his own stadium than anything the Buckeyes had going on in Columbus. Thats just a fact.

[@MargauxKim_13]

Penn State: We can't throw the ball longer than 5 yards. Michigan: We can run the ball longer than 5 yards. Game Over.

[@TimM-wk1zx]

Keep giving him more money….give him another extension Penn State….This clown is buying mansions in Florida, while hard working people buy 10 dollar hot dogs at an old stadium 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Does anyone think paying a coach like this does nothing but thumb ur nose at good hard working people that in this economy struggle to buy food.

[@fredred5037]

It’s happy-valley, you’re not allowed to critically think. Clap and cheer while they raise tuition and housing.

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

He’s worth the $ as the skeletons of the past still play a role. Bill O’Brien went right to Texans after Happy Valley.

[@fredred5037]

@@BlimpCityFeeder he passed the satanic initiation rituals. I’ve lived in this area for 25 years. Lots of fucked up people in power here in the university and local government. Turn away from this paganism and find the true purpose of community.

[@stonecold7919]

Michigan and Ohio State have better coaching staffs, better athletes, and bring in better recruiting classes. That is why Penn State will continue to lose to them year in and year out.

[@benddover4300]

Now there is an accurate analysis. Why are OSU, U of M and Penn State all in one Conference? Blame the Big Ten, not the players or the Coach.

[@lakecityransom]

Penn State has 381 players that went to the NFL. Michigan has 401. Ohio State has 485. They aren't exactly backwoods, but the competition is fierce for both players and coaching staff. Not just the head coach but a very good offensive and defensive coordinator. OC and DC problems plagued Michigan even with Harbaugh present in the late '10s. Your point stands, but some respect should go on Penn State's name lol.

[@SF49ss]

This has been who Franklin is his entire tenure at Penn State. He makes atrocious decisions year after year in big games and gets to keep his job. Go back the last 7 Ohio State games and Franklin has made idiotic decision after idiotic decision in the 4th quarter of those games that cost his team. He is a great recruiter. He is a fraud as a head coach.

[@BlorbusUnimax]

that is fine, recruiting is probably the most important aspect...he needs to realize his limitations and grab a good OC

[@kevinbeck7007]

It is so infuriating watching this guy "coach". After a surprising victory over Ohio St back in '16 w/Saquon and Trace..there's been so many times where Franklin just drives me absolutely crazy with horrible in-game management. It's like he has no concept of situational awareness. Should have beaten Ohio St in 2017 & '18 . Probably would have gotten into the playoff one of those years if they hadn't blown those games. Yes he can recruit, but I'm sorry...I've seen enough of this guy. They have had some nice bowl wins vs Utah and Washington etc, but they will forever be how Ole Miss is currently in the SEC.. Good enough to beat everyone else, but unable to win the games that matter most. It also doesn't help that the idiots in charge of the Big10 decided to put their three best football programs all in the same division. But anyway...this is Penn St...rich tradition and a huge recruiting area just in state. Let's get someone who can do both , recruit and coach. Please I am begging you!

[@SF49ss]

@kevinbeck7007 100%. The recruiting phase is important but over-rated in my opinion. Those White Out games and that environment sell themselves. If you choke in every big game then what difference does getting a good recruiting class matter?

[@BlorbusUnimax]

you know back when Nebraska could compete tom osborne had every high school in the state running his playbook and middle school I believe. By the time instate recruits got to nebraska they had been running his playbook for 6 years@@SF49ss

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

Sam Webb from Michigan Insider, "Here, take our signs. You can have them. Michigan is going to simply run it at you over and over." SO funny AND spot-on! BTW, you guys will never do better, anyway. Accept reality, PSU is a top 20 program and nothing more. Yes, I'm a Michigan alum. Go Blue --

[@chasejordan22]

you know? thats so rich coming from a Michigan fan. michigan fans like to pretend they root for a top program. but we all here watch football. Michigan is not better than PSU. whens the last time Michigan won a playoff game? how many new year six bowls have they won? last national championship!?!?! haha! last heisman? whats the bowl record since 2000? lmao get out of here Michigan is Mid at best.

[@sheneedsme]

@@chasejordan22When you are back to back Big Ten Champs and humiliate Ohio State and Penn State multiple years in a row you are top tier program, whereas a great year for Penn State is them finishing 3d in their own division 😂.

[@chasejordan22]

@@sheneedsme lmao you dont see? michigans biggest accomplishment is beating OSU twice in 16 years. damn what will alabama georgia and clemson think? they will be in awe of your greatness hahahahaba

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

@@chasejordan22 "Get the squirrel. "

[@The__Kipster]

​@@chasejordan22 Michigan won the natty....

[@jackharrington697]

James Franklin is the big ten's Jimbo Fisher he is a big game choke artist!!

[@kevinchandler179]

I am a die hard Nittany Lions 🦁 fan, and it's frustrating!!! Franklin does choke, but scumbag Harbough cheats!!!!!!!! WE ARE

[@jessew1133]

​@@kevinchandler179 WE ARE... Michigan 😉😢😭😱

[@kevinchandler179]

@@jessew1133 You are CHEATERS!!!!!!!!!!¡¡!!!

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

Jimbo doesn't get to big games anymore. ATM is average at best.

[@johnmandock56]

Get rid of him I want him out now

[@jeffreyblue627]

BET. We love Franklin in Ann Arbor 🎉

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

The problem with going for 2 earlier is you end up chasing points. Many pro and college coaches do not understand this. They stare at a sheet written by a nerd behind a desk who's never worn a jock.

[@scurfie2343]

Well stated.

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

That's a good point. As a Michigan fan I was very happy he chose to go for 2 in the 1st half. Had he taken the basically free extra point, PSU wouldn't have needed to go for 2 once again late in the game nor kick an onside kick. They could have kicked it deep and potentially stopped Michigan with an opportunity to score a tying TD. I previously said that I thought JF called a good game -- I still think he did, with the exception just discussed. The fumble by Allar was huge! He didn't seem the same after that.

[@ct3343]

Agree with that statement! The best nerds at least play madden! These guys for Penn state must’ve never even run a madden match because they would have understood the right call to make. Football is football

[@r8d4tube]

PSU hired a coach from SEC doormats school…. Vandy 😂

[@jonnybgood5764]

It was Mich way of showing what signs mean... Nothing and getting Franklin fired at the end of the season at the same time. 😂

[@johnmandock56]

Time for Penn State to get a new coach running out of town

[@blakerdavis]

Great analysis! You actually watch the games and break them down well. Keep up the good work

[@freeclimb5487]

BET

[@beddiebhd]

I wouldn't say the game was there for the taking, There came a point where it never looked like PSU was going to get back into the game with offense, their last TD they had help on 2 15 yard penalties. Without those 2 penalties PSU probable doesn't pass 10 points.

[@barraindymacneil6256]

Penn State once again plays the role of harlot to Michigan's sailors on leave.

[@500stoney]

Leave him alone! Michigan LOVES James Franklin! Seriously though, lighten up its not that it matters. PSU has always been a far away second class citizen when compared to Michigan

[@guygonzalez7039]

This guy has to go!! Franklin is killing this program!! What is it gonna take before the administration sees this!! Every year, Franklin can never win a game he is suppose to lose!! This is awful!! Year in, year out!!

[@jasonvoorhees6416]

Agee 100% it’s LONG OVERDUE! Time to fire Franklin and lay out all the money for urban Myer

[@zitengwang136]

Big10 team besides Michigan and an OSU should not be allowed to be ranked.

[@marybeyer1496]

Penn State got beat by a team who didn’t play anybody, who showed up to play SOMEBODY, and didn’t have a coach!

[@musicalone8123]

Michigan fan/alum. Penn State could have won this game, regardless of whether Michigan tried to throw or not. The defense was good enough, and they could run the ball. The big differences between Michigan and PSU in this were coaching decisions and key penalties. Frankly, JF is like JH was prior to 2021. He didn't win the big games, either, and we were "stuck" with him because he still would win at least 8 games. Maybe your AD needs to cut his salary and threaten his job like ours did...although, it's kind of too late now because here comes USC, Oregon and Washington. Sorry, Penn State people.

[@tuckermcmurray1270]

Our run game wasn’t really there. Michigan has a pretty solid run defense. I couldn’t agree with the rest of your take more though

[@jessew1133]

Lol I love how your analysis tries to make UM's running game as UM being afraid 🤣🤣🤣 I heard an NFL hall of famer say you can always beat a team by attacking their weaknesses, but if you want to break a team you attack their strengths. Michigan did exactly that and it showed in the game and the score. This is what's called getting bludgeoned with the big blue hammer 〽️🏈👍👏👊

[@Longenecker1776]

Bludgeoned? Not exactly. Allar doesn’t fumble and this is a different conversation.

[@jessew1133]

@Longenecker1776 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts blah blah blah. I guess you missed the part where UM ran the ball down PSU's vaunted defense's throat last I checked was 32 straight times and gave up 24. Take the L and hope you don't lose twice to UM when you play the State University of New Jersey next week 😢😭😱

[@TheGoodTherapist]

We weren't trying to give them thr game. We knew they couldn't move the ball. Penn st D get a lot of turnovers and it allow the O short field to score or the D score. Playing conservative eliminates that.

[@Longenecker1776]

@@jessew1133 Congrats on the W. No need for all the girations.

[@Longenecker1776]

@@jessew1133 I think you should enjoy the win and stay classy.

[@bobwhitebread1887]

We got 10 more years of him too.

[@davidschneider6306]

That Stallion guy is available. He might be just what Franklins Felines need to get over the hump.

[@ThomasJohnson-qg2vz]

Going for 2 in last qtr was😊not correct, you keep it a 1 score game

[@Oscar-gt8kx]

Michigan knew how bad that offense really was 😂😂

[@seume]

From a Michigan fan your absolutely right, it was very dumb to go for the two twice, then go for it on 4th down at the end. His justification for it didn’t make any sense.

[@johnandrews5479]

Only watched the last 6 minutes of the game and couldn't believe those last 2 decisions. Obviously should have punted, Obviously should not have gone for 2 after the td. I'm stunned by these Obviously stupid decisions. Obviously, just ask James.

[@paulday5722]

You left out the fact that the 2 point try at the end of the game was a 3 Stooges playground play. Michigan wasn't trying to give it away. They knew Allar and the offense were no threat so "pound the rock, burn the clock" is all they had to do. Everyone in the stadium knew they were going to run every play and PSU still couldn't stop it. The good news is PSU does not play Michigan next year. The bad news is they do get UCLA, USC, Washington and Ohio State.

[@hurricanemegan8092]

Lose every single one next year. 🤣 James Franklin is a fraud.

[@edkiely2712]

Aaron, looks like your subs and likes are inching up!👌Good to see my man! I told you before, you need to be having more eyes and ears coming your way!

[@brentj.peterson6070]

Well Michigan didn't need any more fuel...but the coward B1G just delivered a boatload more. Am NOT saying Michigan doesn't deserve punishment...but commish bowed to pressure and did something UNPRECEDENTED before investigation was completed. With these kids it doesn't matter who's coaching. They are as unified as can be. So proud of their athleticism. Maryland Turtles up next 😊

[@larrylarry6362]

It isn’t ’analytics’ that has no common sense-analytics just provides numbers/percentages etc. The observer of the analytics then uses the information to make a decision. It is James Franklin who has no common sense

[@paws057]

It’s frustrating let me tell you! It’s like the coaching staff goes brain dead in big games.

[@justinedse8435]

It will never get better, it would be smart to cut your losses.

[@paws057]

@@justinedse8435 That would be nice but the buyout is so big I doubt they would...

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

The onside kick thing is horrible by many coaches, both college and pro. Field position and the clock are the most important factors in a one-possession game. If you have a couple timeouts and around 2 minutes left, kick (or punt) it deep. If you give it back deep in your own territory, it's game over now.

[@ct3343]

Onside kick wasn’t the problem. That’s a low percentage play and a dice roll. The problem is he threw the game by going for 2 points just before that

[@mickfisher2351]

The blocked kick win against OSU in 2016 saved Franklin's job. He's a poor game manager.

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

The difference between Richt and Franklin is Richt didn't have the luxury of a playoff system at UGA and he did have a few teams that were definitely top 2, but couldn't prove it in the postseason. He came up 4 yards short vs Bama in the SEC title game, but ND got to play Bama for the NC. Everyone knew the real title game was in the SEC. ND got smoked.

[@edkiely2712]

Exactly! Richt had some solid teams and was an excellent recruiter! 2012 SEC Championship was a classic!

[@peterbigblock]

I couldn’t believe it when Franklin went for two at the end. Could not believe it. So now it’s a nine-point deficit. We inside kick. Even if you recover it, then what? How do you score nine points? The guy sounds like an idiot in his pressers because he IS an idiot. Franklin is an idiot making $9M a year to trade on what’s left of PSU’s reputation as a football power.

[@KINGJAMES2NYC]

If Franklin is the coach against good/great competition you know what's going to happen and I'm not sure Drew Allar will develop at that school under that staff

[@mw7584]

Fabricated chaos. Why is everything a show I guess the main event isn’t enough. 😢

[@Narniak69]

Just look at the logo to the upper right of the screen. Lots of money was lost on the PSU fiasco today. All by design.

[@ct3343]

Add an elite head coach to the games with Michigan and OSU. Penn state wins both. Hate to say it but Penn State had the James Franklin big team lousy play struggles vs both teams. Still only lost by 1 touchdown which is more credit to the players! His 2 pt play calling was the worst decisions I’ve ever seen a coach make, but his answers in the press conference were even scarier! When he responded “what do you mean kicking the field goal kept my team in the game?” - as a PSU fan, that line alone means he’s gotta go!🤣

[@livetotell100]

100% Agree.

[@BlorbusUnimax]

what was really weird is the announcers were covering for Franklin, holding his hand like he was a little boy. strange "i agree with that call, he was so right etc..." all game

[@denbo74]

Been making the Mark Richt comparison for years

[@justinedse8435]

Penn State is just not a great program. Good, not great.

[@chriswilliams3084]

That is game number 3 since the sign stealing story broke. M wins all three with a combined score of 124-28.

[@sheneedsme]

And that spread is about to get much lager after next weeks game.

[@ROAC35]

...and they give Franklin a 10 year extension? They choke every year...but hey, they get to kill Delaware!!! Lol,lol,lol,lol

[@seandamm9456]

Lmao!!!! Go Blue!!!!

[@erickpaden5445]

James Franklin should be fired........same old Penn St. Beat up on below average teams. Lose to all good teams. Terrible coach offensively. He should have been fired two years ago.

[@lakecityransom]

Penn State tried to boa constrictor Michigan with a low posession game and high cost mistakes. It was all by design and it failed because Michigan executed well.

[@tylermaxwell820]

PSU D played more than well enough to win. PSU O constantly put the D in horrible predicaments. Obviously Michigan was gonna make plays, they’re too good.

[@Narniak69]

Look at the logo to the upper right of the screen. Lots of money was lost on the PSU fiasco today. All by design.

[@andrewmueller9986]

People talking about Franklin but Diaz and yurcich are buffoons. Psu d ens are over aggressivevits ridiculous. They don't contain and set the edge. DEs need need to stop the run not just go for sacks. Diaz is overrated and far from elite

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

Top 20 is pretty good. You guys could have it much worse. Best wishes

[@southernstylestories]

Horrible coaching, you must not have watch CU football this year. Coach Prime and best coaches in nation are thumbs up

[@johnfiander7206]

Franklin for years has been a bad 4th down decision maker.

[@peterbigblock]

Franklin is a big-talking dope. He talked his way into whatever it is, $9M per year, from the morons at Penn State. So we’re stuck with him. I’ve been a fan since ‘86 and rarely miss a game. I probably won’t watch the last couple games. Beat Rutgers and MSU? Who cares?

[@michaelstone3069]

Frankie gotta go

[@ahkeeferguson3447]

As a OSU fan, rooting for penn state today was so stressful I couldn’t imagine being a fan

[@DJMarkCorneliusThaDon]

Why would you root for Penn State? We want y'all to be undefeated when we play you & beat you for the third year in a row!

[@davidhillman903]

Yes you can because Michigan did it to you guys last year.

[@jessman8597]

You have no clue what it's like. At least OSU is competitive. They always have a chance to win. PSU will never be better than Indiana or Nebraska. PSU is a disgrace to college football.

[@Erica-vd1gb]

Lol wait til we throw Ryan day his punch lol

[@Erica-vd1gb]

OSU we take then by 20

[@ericmeeuwsen2226]

Ps -- JF is an absolute clown in life, but he actually called a great game -- like the host said, the punt that came close to turning momentum, the great draw-play call with D Allar that went for a touchdown and some others. From an opposing fan's perspective, I really don't think PSU lost because of the play calls. That's my perspective -- I could be wrong, but I have zero emotional ties to PSU, good or bad.

[@DEXTERCFBYT]

Crazy see this every year from penn stat

[@youperguy]

Going for 2 in the second quarter was bad. Going for 2 in the fourth was correct. If they make it. There is enough time to kickoff and play defense down 7. You know you only need one score. When you don’t make it you know you need two scores, so the onside is required. To play the odds correctly it is better to find out if you are going to make the two early.

[@Macattack11639]

So you’re saying with 1:42 left it’s better to be down two possessions than one 😂? Everyone says that’s the dumbest coaching move they’ve ever seen. Ever. Congrats you got what you deserved.

[@romanpawloski]

It was never there for the taking. Lol

[@fancy39]

I was surprised when they renewed Franklin’s contract a couple years ago. I thought for sure they’d can him that year but instead they gave him a multi-million, 10-yr deal.

[@stevencook420]

AAron Torres gotta be hardest working man in sports media... I prefer you so much more than the cbs eye on basketball show or whatever the name..Gary Parrish doesnt think Kentucky is a big deal apparently...well i say 26-5 regular season for UK thie year..i know i went on a random rant for a bit

[@bobwhitebread1887]

Franklin needs to learn what Terry Bradshaw knew is that it's just a game so just go out and give your best and have fun because it's just a game.

[@NotApplicaple]

Terry Bradshaw has alzheimers- or is just stupid

[@realitylime4896]

#FireFranklin

[@josephinetracy1485]

The good news is that good ole Frankie had ten more years to get this thing turned around 😄

[@darrisethridge7200]

Penn State hasn't been good since Joe Paterno

[@GoBlu76]

Penn state better go get the one coach that can beat both MICHIGAN and osu... Urban Meyer. The guy is MICHIGAN'S kryptonite. Scoop him up before msu does because whoever gets him will be an instant contender for the big10 championship

[@jonathanharvey5701]

Penn State University cannot continue with James Franklin. With him, in previous years, his team goes undefeated until Michigan and Ohio State comes along. 10,000,000 salary and is 4-16 against both Ohio State and Michigan. Drew Allar played like Franklin is against Michigan and Ohio State, scared. Franklin can leave and return to Vanderbilt. Something wrong with him.

[@kingneptune8120]

Your not and X and O guy but yet you say Michigan was saying come take the game?

[@marvjones3183]

Bad take. I'm not an x's and o's guy? Sounds about right!

[@jaminabbey8640]

Michigan's defense had nothing to do with Penn State play calling look terrible? Michigan wins and all I hear on this is Penn State. Nice breakdown smh

[@mitchlemons8379]

We're never elite to start whit. ?????😢

[@Erica-vd1gb]

They need coach

[@kenthomas1535]

Hey Penn State ….at least you don’t cheat

[@surgeneral108]

FACT: Best Mich player of the game? >>> Drew Allar .....lol

[@Mike-sp7zv]

Remember when hairball couldn't get over the hump? Just keep in mind how much things change next year around them from the playoffs to the conference.

[@rodneyscott2108]

9:27 Ten years? I can’t believe it’s been that long, the Joe Paterno Jerry Sandusky situation? Man how times flies.

[@AaronTorres]

I thought it was like Year 7 and dud a double take when I counted 😂

[@stevencook420]

Damn penn State is a team i wanna see take that step and win one of these Michigan OSU games..10-2 every season must be killing the fanbase cuz its like UK i finally realize Kentucky is never beating a top SEC team..

[@NotApplicaple]

Dont understand your convoluted analysis- its football not lawn frezbee, the objective is to score more points than your opponent.

[@BlorbusUnimax]

I saw an elite defense, franklin needs a new OC

[@TheRicanRaider]

They kept talking shit lol

[@QuantumG432]

I think Franklin is a good coach. Nothing wrong with him. It’s the players fault.

[@davidhillman903]

The game was NEVER for the taking 😂😂😂. Michigan made a choice NOT to pass. This was Michigan making PSU there bitch. 1 pass the entire half is just disrespectful. Michigan dominated the entire game let's be honest.