Why Season 4 is Community's Absolute Worst

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captainmidnight

captainmidnight

3 жыл бұрын

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Way before it was on Netflix, Community always had a hard time in the ratings at NBC. Fans were thrilled when it was renewed for season 4, but Dan Harmon was out. In this video, I go over the weird season without him, and how things were never quite the same for Jeff, Abed, Troy, Britta, Shirley and Annie.
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@leonardopaes3561
@leonardopaes3561 3 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is bad by Community standards, but by sitcom standards it's still good.
@philllllllll
@philllllllll 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like fan-fiction to me. Decently written fan-fiction but just missing the mysterious elements that made it magical.
@mattfitness8498
@mattfitness8498 3 жыл бұрын
@@philllllllll yeah I think you just perfectly described it
@leonardopaes3561
@leonardopaes3561 3 жыл бұрын
@@philllllllll yes, you are not wrong. I just think people are too harsh on season 4 because of the amazing 3 seasons that came before. But it has its good moments.
@michaelvessel4604
@michaelvessel4604 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that Season 4 is one of the most overhated seasons of any tv show. Sure, it's not nearly at the same level of quality as the past three seasons that came before it, but I still would watch it over Big Bang Theory or any other generic sitcom at the time.
@mattfitness8498
@mattfitness8498 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelvessel4604 yeah I agree on that, by sitcom and comedy standards in general it’s pretty solid, I always watch the whole season on rewatches. But I just feel like it lost that mysterious, and magic element that Dan Harmon brought to the show. And for that it’s hated on
@ob2kenobi388
@ob2kenobi388 2 жыл бұрын
At least S4 brought us the callback line: "Ghosts can't go through doors, stupid. They're not fire!"
@Hazoodles
@Hazoodles 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that from the Season 3 finale or second last episode? Or do you just mean they starting bringing it back in S4?
@ob2kenobi388
@ob2kenobi388 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hazoodles Chang said "Fire can't go through doors, stupid. It's not a ghost!" in (I think) the S3 finale, then Pierce said the other line in S4.
@Hazoodles
@Hazoodles 2 жыл бұрын
@@ob2kenobi388 Oh yeah i didn't even notice which version you had said in your original comment. My bad!
@gchild127
@gchild127 Жыл бұрын
Ya but when Pierce said it , it felt forced ... Much like the rest of the season. It was more of an eye roll moment for me instead of a clever easter egg
@angelo423
@angelo423 Жыл бұрын
Is it really a call back when it was on the finale of the previous season? A real callback would be Abed in s5 e1 telling Jeff the line about "I see your value now" which was told before in the first episode
@ElClaudio
@ElClaudio 2 жыл бұрын
Dean Pelton "swapping bodies" with Jeff is one of my favorite moments in the entire series and it happens halfway through S4, so I can't say it's "the absolute worst" without being dishonest.
@ernestoagapitogarcesconyad1710
@ernestoagapitogarcesconyad1710 2 жыл бұрын
the freaky friday episode was written by jim rash (the dean). wish they had him write more episodes that episode because it was definitely the best one in s4
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson Жыл бұрын
Season 4 is a very funny season that only gets all the hate because it is surrounded by some of the greatest seasons of a sitcom ever. So compared to seasons 1-3 and 5-6, season 4 looks bad. Compared to basically every other sitcom at the time, season 4 was actually pretty great.
@CaligoArye
@CaligoArye 11 ай бұрын
Annie getting giggly at the Dean was gold.
@bedsheets1867
@bedsheets1867 Ай бұрын
​@@ernestoagapitogarcesconyad1710genuinely liked that episode, that's when I was like "season 4 really has its moments"
@joealine77
@joealine77 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite lines in sitcom history comes in season 5. The study group is sitting around the table, and Winger says, "what happened to you people?" Then proceeds to go around the room and calls everyone out for how awesome and unique of characters they used to be compared to how boring, cliche, and stereotypical they are now. It's one of the funniest and most on point meta jokes I've ever heard
@joealine77
@joealine77 2 жыл бұрын
@@leynadebono4754 S5E1: Repilot, at the start of Act 3. He ends by saying "we went in one side as real people and came out the other as twisted cartoons"
@indedgames4359
@indedgames4359 2 жыл бұрын
@@joealine77 so true . Like s1 to 3 ther wher real people beginnt of s4 ws still ok and then boom
@DragicaOfficial
@DragicaOfficial Жыл бұрын
acknowledging you are doing a shit job does not make it less shit, just more obvious
@peedfarded
@peedfarded Жыл бұрын
@@DragicaOfficial Your remark doesn’t make sense because the joke came from Dan Harmon who returned for season 5. So the fact the group became parody like caricatures of themselves in season 4 wasn’t his own fault. So the joke isn’t a self-admittance of doing a “shit job” from any of the show runners or writers. Just more a jab from one show runner to another.
@ayushbajaj4708
@ayushbajaj4708 Жыл бұрын
@@peedfarded season 4 wasn’t that bad. I don’t like how the later seasons act like it was just terrible, it actually makes it even worse than whatever people think of season 4
@cornhuskerviceroy2938
@cornhuskerviceroy2938 3 жыл бұрын
A movie is the only thing to get us out of this darkest timeline.
@JayFolipurba
@JayFolipurba 3 жыл бұрын
and it's almost a "ten years later, where are they now" type of deal
@vingonzalez3199
@vingonzalez3199 3 жыл бұрын
#sixseasonsandamovie
@MicahMicahel
@MicahMicahel 2 жыл бұрын
a Twin Peaks type deal where it's 25 years later... but I think Chevy Chase wasn't expendable
@Frizzleman
@Frizzleman 2 жыл бұрын
It truly is our only hope
@fasin9424
@fasin9424 2 жыл бұрын
We will get a movie
@tarzan5932
@tarzan5932 3 жыл бұрын
“I farted during the fourth one, it’s an inside joke”
@okamifang4059
@okamifang4059 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you i was going to say that lol
@nikolascagefreeeggs307
@nikolascagefreeeggs307 3 жыл бұрын
No. I am Fartacus.
@bdonovable
@bdonovable 3 жыл бұрын
just rewatched that episode. haha
@ascottishgamerx9728
@ascottishgamerx9728 3 жыл бұрын
Sharted
@tarzan5932
@tarzan5932 3 жыл бұрын
@@ascottishgamerx9728 okie dokie
@matthewsawczyn6592
@matthewsawczyn6592 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdly, I thought Community was at its best when it was at least semi-grounded, just poking fun as the silliness of community college. Dean telling everyone to search their “immediate areas” in the first scene is one of my favorite jokes in the whole show
@dimetronome
@dimetronome 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's why seasons 1 and 2 are my favourites.
@charlieessig9923
@charlieessig9923 8 ай бұрын
That’s why I was never really a huge fan of the whole Chang takeover
@rayanalsinan
@rayanalsinan Жыл бұрын
I actually felt it was fine, not knowing what was going on behind the scenes at the time I didn't really feel that anything was out of place. When Pierce died, Troy left, and Shirley left that's when I began to feel that the show was a bit weird. Mostly because of the fact that it had already lost it's charm. There was no more "community" it was just the remaints of the study group with whichever professors decided to join them. Like Mike from breaking bad joining them for a bit, what was up with that? just felt weird. I could also go on about Frankie and Elroy but they were Ok. Basically what I'm trying to say is once it wasn't a study group anymore it just wasn't the same show. Like remember the episode when they rented a pulp fiction themed restaurant? No way that could've worked with the newest cast. Troy completed Abed and without him Abed just became the weird guy to the new cast. Man there are so many reasons why I felt that after they weren't a study group, that's when community died.
@pommeeeee
@pommeeeee 7 ай бұрын
agreed, i felt that after troy left was when it starts to go worse. i quite liked season 4 except the puppet episode
@bailey_lgbtq9162
@bailey_lgbtq9162 4 ай бұрын
I honestly thought season six was pretty great, like the episode with the giant hand was utterly hilarous
@bedsheets1867
@bedsheets1867 Ай бұрын
Yeah that's how I felt when the show was running but watching it again it's kinda clear how much season 4 stands out as a sore thumb from a writing and tone perspective
@edgyspaceunicorn7215
@edgyspaceunicorn7215 3 жыл бұрын
I hate Abed's "We finally found a way to make paintball cool again" line because, even the seasons without paintpall have paintball episodes. Season 3 has a big pillow war and season 5 have the floor is lava episode. Both capturing the homage/parody action flick semblance just like the paintball episodes of season 1, 2 and 6.
@ultimadum7785
@ultimadum7785 3 жыл бұрын
The pillow fort episodes are fucking genius, like who else but Dan Harmon could come up with something as creative as that? 🤣
@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bad line because it highlights just how un-cool it is; the finale is a really bad re-integration of two previous Community ideas (the timelines ands paintball) seemingly without understanding why those things were good the first time around.
@Power11112
@Power11112 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like it since it just felt like they’re trying to force the audience to think it was cool and inadvertently implied that the paintball type episodes weren’t cool now which just pisses me off
@brewdaly1873
@brewdaly1873 3 жыл бұрын
The season 4 paintball episode was one of the worst episodes in the entire series. Season 6 did paintball better.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 2 жыл бұрын
Pillowfort fucking sucked too.
@thwipkid
@thwipkid 3 жыл бұрын
Changnesia is by far the dumbest arc in television comedies I’ve seen, no pay off, just overly used and annoying.
@TrunksG
@TrunksG 3 жыл бұрын
And the problem, is that, the arc had a lot of potential. But they just be like: at the end of the season, lets erased all of the arc, from the main story
@extremetoast5723
@extremetoast5723 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrunksG it was shitty from its conception, it was obviously fake
@vincevvn
@vincevvn 3 жыл бұрын
You must have not watched a lot of shows if that’s by far the dumbest arc you’ve ever seen.
@thwipkid
@thwipkid 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincevvn just not a lot of bad ones
@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia 3 жыл бұрын
It's clear they had absolutely no idea what to do with Chang after the Season 3 finale. He doesn't have a clear purposes in any of the subsequent seasons.
@Lastclerk3
@Lastclerk3 Жыл бұрын
Community season 4 has one of the most amazing cameos ever. “Inspector Space Time” is clearly a Doctor Who parody and they cast Matt Lucas to play an IST super fan in season 4. 3 years later he would actually be cast as Nardole in Doctor Who. Sure no one could have known what was going to happen later, but I literally gasped when he showed up.
@Catbotnik
@Catbotnik 18 күн бұрын
Me too! As a huge doctor who fan who didn’t watch community until it was on streaming services, I wasn’t sure if it was intentional, since I didn’t know if he had been cast as nardole yet
@nicolecooper7514
@nicolecooper7514 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new community fan and to be honest when I was watching through the show through I did not notice season 4 being weird or bad or anything like that -- I found it very enjoyable and had no idea weird stuff was going on behind the scenes minus some of the stuff with Chevy Chase. I agree the finale is terrible and so is the puppet episode but the highlights for me were fun and good! It was actually the beginning of season 5 where I felt as if something felt weird and bad and wrong. I really was not vibing with the show for a bit so I kind of quit watching for a while then before eventually coming back and finishing it.
@TheInferno0099
@TheInferno0099 2 жыл бұрын
I think them not being students in Greendale and graduating messed up the show
@annalenaguptara7130
@annalenaguptara7130 2 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same. Four was fine and five started to wear me out a little. Six being better again. Its my second watch right now and i felt exactly the same last time round
@adamhess7788
@adamhess7788 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only reason people don't like season 5 is it was no longer about students specifically (how could it be?) And we lost some main characters (unavoidable). Season 4 on the other hand, is bad because of the writing. Without Harmon, almost all the season 4 episodes are pretty awful by community standards. Even the cast has said they knew the writing for their characters didn't make sense.
@GB-ic9wc
@GB-ic9wc 2 жыл бұрын
i had basically the same experience. didn’t mind season 4, seasons 5-6 were the ones where it felt completely pointless and off
@deech222
@deech222 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same here first time through. Loved it. Still do. The purists are brutal man.
@philllllllll
@philllllllll 3 жыл бұрын
Season 4 feels like fan-fiction. Decently written fan-fiction, but nowhere near the quality of the original show.
@santiagobauza4257
@santiagobauza4257 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's as if I tried to write Community episodes only knowing the show on a surface level.
@hasmhas
@hasmhas 3 жыл бұрын
I generally tell people: Season 4: Community Fanfiction Season 5 & 6: Diet Community
@kinnundo6434
@kinnundo6434 3 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is the Cursed Child of Community
@abijo5052
@abijo5052 3 жыл бұрын
@@hasmhas yes I never thought of it like this but it really sums it up. I really enjoy 5 and 6 but it'll never be as good as full on community
@YuKheThai
@YuKheThai 3 жыл бұрын
@@hasmhas At least seasons 5 and 6 are consistently funny and still feel like Community. Season 4 is the least funny and least interesting season.
@Wolves127
@Wolves127 3 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting an Adam and eve ad in this channel lmao
@doorsfan173
@doorsfan173 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up thought it was a joke at first.
@zenbrown7144
@zenbrown7144 3 жыл бұрын
He's done it once before, I remember being quite confused lol.
@joonyaboonya
@joonyaboonya 3 жыл бұрын
I literally came here just to say this. 🤣🤣 But get your money Cap'n!
@user-vi4xy1jw7e
@user-vi4xy1jw7e 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the first time
@kellercorrield7733
@kellercorrield7733 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Midnight FUUUUUUUCKS
@killerducky684
@killerducky684 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff's monologue to his dad in S4 is honestly under-rated
@amarumolleda6969
@amarumolleda6969 3 жыл бұрын
Frankie is the most underrated character of community. That scene when she tries not to hurt the dean's feelings always cracks me up.
@jenm1
@jenm1 3 жыл бұрын
meh
@MisterSketch4
@MisterSketch4 3 жыл бұрын
She is such a unique character being created for the express purpose of ending the show and even stating this herself. With one singular motive for a character, you wouldn’t expect them to be that hilarious.
@brewdaly1873
@brewdaly1873 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed her and Elroy
@rifucurktushwjeydnydheh
@rifucurktushwjeydnydheh 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, she's even more of a buzz kill than britta
@marsco4188
@marsco4188 2 жыл бұрын
@@rifucurktushwjeydnydheh Agreed, I cannot understand how people could ever like Frankie. She is expressly the "boring" character, and this is almost explicit by making her focus on "results." Everyone will argue that this is her character and it serves an important purpose in the story and blahblahblah, but suck it, I hate that character. It was boring and I wish she never existed in the story.
@bertimusprime7900
@bertimusprime7900 3 жыл бұрын
The big thing that really stands out in season four is how the characters become caricatures of themselves. Shirley literally become 3-kids from the later GI Joe episode. Her entire personality is “I could be home with my kids.” This happened before, but she had depth beyond that. Similarly, The S4 writers did not write Abed correctly. They wrote him as an awkward guy, not someone on the spectrum. Those are the two glaring examples, but like the Troy/Britta romance you mentioned, they come across as generic, despite the writers best attempts at Harmonizing the show. #sixseasonsandamovie
@elizabethashley42
@elizabethashley42 3 жыл бұрын
And also all the kissing up the writers did to Chevy Chase.
@exarkun3263
@exarkun3263 3 жыл бұрын
Shirley was awesome in the MeowMeowBeenz episode
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 3 жыл бұрын
I just think the Britta/Troy romance could be well developed since there's a couple of episodes in Seasons 1-3 that show how great they would be together. Idk if Harmon would actually write it, but the characters surely had that potential
@exarkun3263
@exarkun3263 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelbond998 Season 5, Hickey was in it. It's the kind of classic conceptual episode that rarely miss in Community
@exarkun3263
@exarkun3263 3 жыл бұрын
​@@rachelbond998 the way mustard turns Britta into a leader of the masses 😭
@55MrRockets55
@55MrRockets55 3 жыл бұрын
God why couldn't Chevy just be cool for like one year so we could send him off the show in the right way
@tenworms
@tenworms 3 жыл бұрын
I love the episode where they get his sperm vials though.
@baddleacks4128
@baddleacks4128 3 жыл бұрын
@@tenworms hope you've seen the live read the cast did of that episode last year
@Smilkma
@Smilkma 3 жыл бұрын
What did he do?
@cameronpanzer9152
@cameronpanzer9152 3 жыл бұрын
The reason he was arguing with Dan Harmon was because he thought Pierce was becoming too racist and homophobic, but he just didn’t understand the character and pierce his blatant racism in the show but it still was a good send off with the sperm/cult episode.
@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012
@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012 3 жыл бұрын
"Harmon was notoriously hard to work with." Goes both ways bud.
@brittasnow64
@brittasnow64 Жыл бұрын
I actually liked "Herstory of Dance" the most out of S4 not even for the Abed story, I actually loved the Britta plotline and how Pierce defends her to Jeff at the end of the episode, it was a rare thing to see from Pierce and I wish we saw him interact with Britta a bit more actually, sadly it was like.. the last episode of S4 where Pierce is in the whole of the episode, not written out or left behind in the study room by the other characters.
@dapeach06
@dapeach06 Жыл бұрын
I think the Sophie B Hawkins dance episode felt like classic Community and would fit in well in the first 3 seasons. It didn't break new ground, but the characters all acted like themselves, it was funny, and it had lot of heart. Most of the rest of the season I barely remember.
@vldmr_videohead
@vldmr_videohead 3 жыл бұрын
It's awe inspiring how great the first episode after Gas Leak Year gets and how fast it's happening. First seconds of season five and you immediately feel the difference in your bones.
@Anna-tk7ui
@Anna-tk7ui 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff coming in and yelling at them all is just so cathartic.
@jamainegardner4193
@jamainegardner4193 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I could feel it right from the moment before his drink got taken away.
@micalzoncillo249
@micalzoncillo249 3 жыл бұрын
lol Humprhies' tesis was a bridge made of lego
@RaidsEpicly
@RaidsEpicly 3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of crazy how wrong season 4 felt too. I came to community late and how no idea about dan leaving the show, but even in the first episode of S4 I went from "oh this hunger deans is kind of a neat concept, I'm excited" to "huh....that just didn't really work"
@MuninnCrow
@MuninnCrow 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. Although both seasons are a mixed bag to me, I think I got more enjoyment out of season 4 than 5 overall, and the season 5 opening episode is especially bad. Considering what a lateral move going from season 4 to 5 was, all the 'gas leak' references also felt particularly unearned and petty. That had me cringing more than anything season 4 did.
@doritoman301
@doritoman301 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that once Glover left the show became a complete shell of its former self
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 3 жыл бұрын
It was pretty Childish before then, ngl
@kinleydeboer7280
@kinleydeboer7280 3 жыл бұрын
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter you mean pretty childish gambino 😎
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinleydeboer7280 That's The Joke™
@mehightmi
@mehightmi 3 жыл бұрын
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter i think he was trying a bit of cringe humor there ":D
@JimCullen
@JimCullen 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Season 4 might be worse than what came before, but it's still better than what came after. I think Harmon's desperate attempts to return the show to what he wanted and to distance it from season 4 backfired badly.
@ryanschwarz3024
@ryanschwarz3024 2 жыл бұрын
Season 4 had a difficult time hitting the right notes. It never really knew how to handle the Troy and Britta relationship, so they just kind of let it play out for a while with no real drive, until they just decided to end it halfway through the season. I also found Malcolm McDowell's addition to the season to be an odd mix. Also it was pretty obvious by that point that Chase was on his way out, so it was kinda cringe watching the characters make excuses as to why Pierce was not around for several episodes. Most of all though, it just seemed like the network was trying to take the popular elements of the show and scrape them for everything they were worth. It was like watching the sequel to a good movie. Instead of building on itself it re-treads the popular elements of the original, which creates kind of a shallow copy of the first, missing all the depth that made the original what it was. One thing I did appreciate about season 4 is the fact that it made Britta a slightly more serious character again. Watching her evolution from the start of the show to the end of season 3 can be slightly painful at times. As much as I love how they took her from leading love interest to goofy screw up liberal parody, i think they went a little overboard by the time we got to season 3. She had essentially become nothing more than a punchline by then. Season 4 has her picked on a lot less, contribute a lot more, and even gives her a few wins for a change. it was a nice change of pace.
@EllRiver
@EllRiver Жыл бұрын
Dean Peltons role in season can't be understated, he is legit the best part of season 4
@santiagolondonovelez2894
@santiagolondonovelez2894 3 жыл бұрын
i never really noticed any "downgrade" i remember finishing the show and reading about people hating the 4th season and never getting why
@JB-fp3fb
@JB-fp3fb 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I've always felt like the Harmon stans are projecting pretty hard on Season 4.
@BlackWolf207
@BlackWolf207 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one
@zoedavies3252
@zoedavies3252 3 жыл бұрын
same tbh. i didn't even notice that much of a drop in quality
@dokibunni
@dokibunni 3 жыл бұрын
same! i had heard about the hate, but honestly it was just exactly the same?
@Starlesslight
@Starlesslight 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I actually like season 4 more than season 6.
@MEBlueHatGuy
@MEBlueHatGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Gasleak year is a fair label for it. It writes off all of the out of character moments as a gasleak but it still keeps it in character that it happened. Which means good or bad or stupid, the characters have to live with that and it still developed them. I love it.
@johnparker4484
@johnparker4484 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the minority but I love season five and six. They’re so weird and different yet familiar.
@jackdryden7452
@jackdryden7452 3 жыл бұрын
now there's a man who knows how to marry his cousin!
@RuptimusPrime
@RuptimusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Seasons 5 and 6 are kind of like watching different show. A really, really good show, but not the same. Honestly I don't if I prefer the early seasons or the later ones. Depends on my mood I guess
@colbyflanigan146
@colbyflanigan146 2 жыл бұрын
I think season 5 is one of the best seasons of the show. It reached very unique emotional levels, along with some really unique and funny concepts like Jeff’s coma, or the Meow Meow Beanz episode, or even basic sandwich. It’s was super cool to see it and I think is overlooked a lot
@no1u521
@no1u521 2 жыл бұрын
Season 5 is absolute killer,crazy fun to watch. Season 6 kind of had a rough start,but started to go well along the way.
@giancarloortiz9236
@giancarloortiz9236 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching through season 6 for the first time, I got emotional thinking about how much the show had changed. In a way it felt like it had matured to me. There were still funny antics and crazy situations but a lot of the childish wonder and silly comedy were replaced by more riffs on finality, progress, and moving on. Not to say all of it was gone. There are a few episodes with classic Harmon weirdness (The SciFi Movie Episode, The VR Episode). All the same, it was different in a good way to me, it was still recognizable but it had gotten some scars and was a little rough around the edges, but it recognized itself for that and I think it played on that aspect really well.
@zoestraw6444
@zoestraw6444 2 жыл бұрын
Season 4 is hard because you can tell that they were really trying. There was earnest effort put in to emulate Harmon's style, but that style was just so bizarre and specific that they couldn't do it. The way you put it was frankly very accurate, the "cover band" version of the show. It's an earnest attempt that just isn't backed up with the talent behind the writing.
@ParkPants
@ParkPants 3 жыл бұрын
There’s some literal cringe fest moments in season 4 that prevent me from ever getting through it in one piece. Seasons 5 and 6 had issues but not for lack of good writing. Season 4 tried to fit as much fan service and callbacks as possible and it physically hurt me.
@Nononono36353
@Nononono36353 2 жыл бұрын
I liked season 4, it’s better than season 6.
@TheInferno0099
@TheInferno0099 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nononono36353 I think so too something about season 6 felt depressing at least in season 4 they were still students
@nroofaa7608
@nroofaa7608 Жыл бұрын
@@Nononono36353 Agreed, at least the main cast is still there. S6 was just lame with the new characters and overall sad vibe
@superstygian3751
@superstygian3751 3 жыл бұрын
I think seasons 5 and 6 are extremely underrated.
@visiblerat
@visiblerat 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss and I actually really like S6 Chang
@griefforest1870
@griefforest1870 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Season 5, but I'm not a big fan of Season 6.
@nroofaa7608
@nroofaa7608 Жыл бұрын
They aren't bad but losing Troy (and to a lesser extent Pierce and Shirley) just dragged them down and the whole group dynamic was off
@davideberhardt6150
@davideberhardt6150 Жыл бұрын
Especially season 6! Different vibe, but best season since season 3.
@KB-pl2gj
@KB-pl2gj 3 жыл бұрын
I really really want Dan Harmon to remake the episode when Jeff meets his father. I know it would’ve been special.
@animehearthd5469
@animehearthd5469 2 жыл бұрын
This! It's the biggest loss I got from season 4, and no one seems to talk about it. It really broke my heart how bad it was, after Dan Harmon had put so much thought into setting it up.
@bobthellama6988
@bobthellama6988 Жыл бұрын
@@animehearthd5469 it's weird, but I don't think Jeff would have gone and seen his father.
@Bottleworksnet
@Bottleworksnet 8 ай бұрын
Harmon wanted Jeff's dad to be Bill Murray.
@gravybate2283
@gravybate2283 7 ай бұрын
But that episode was already special
@pablo89212009
@pablo89212009 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being so pissed when I found out they had fired Dan Harmon, and actually stopped watching community halfway season 4 and only finished it a year ago on Netflix. That said, I also later found out how awful Dan was to the writers, especially to Megan Ganz, and I believe firing him was the right choice, and it's a shame it didn't work for the show. Thankfully he has since publicly apologized in a way that I have rarely seen and seems genuinely sorry for the stuff he did.
@miajudd5366
@miajudd5366 2 жыл бұрын
ive been looking for a comment ab this! sexual harassment in the workplace should not ever be tolerated, even when the perpetrator is talented. like you said tho, he seems to have reflected a lot on his actions and is sorry.
@burnbobquist8999
@burnbobquist8999 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it always bothered me that people put so much blame on Chevy (who behaved like a dick), but did not really care how awful the work conditions were for the whole crew, especially the writers and directors who had to fix all the fuck ups drunk Harmon did. You don't get fired from your own show, if you just "misbehave" a little, especially back then, but he overspend the budget, whole episodes had to be rewritten because of it and working with an unfinished script does not help either.
@galactic85
@galactic85 Жыл бұрын
I know abiut the Megan ganz thing, Which was completely unacceptable. But for the most part I haven't heard about harming having problems with the other writers. Like I got the impression that the reason the writers worked so late were more because the writers room took on this really perfectionist culture. Im sure dan played a part in that but it seems like everyone just wnated to write the best scriot possible. outside of ganz I haven't heard any writer bring up any issues with Harmon. Idk maybe other writers talked about how frustrating dan was to work with and I just never saw them discuss it.
@sadib100
@sadib100 3 жыл бұрын
I just remember Pierce not being in scenes with others.
@2009TNT
@2009TNT 3 жыл бұрын
The way he was edited in to those last couple episodes was pretty laughable. I know the show had to work with what Chevy was willing to give them, but man
@crystalwolcott4744
@crystalwolcott4744 3 жыл бұрын
honestly I was glad to see him go,
@max36047
@max36047 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that's crazy to think about is that this is the longest that Chevy has been involved with any show by far. His next longest tenure was with SNL where he lasted just over one season before falling out with everyone. The fact that Harmon and Community were able to keep their relationship with Chase as long as they did is an incredible feat that will never be matched.
@brennomachado5585
@brennomachado5585 3 жыл бұрын
@@crystalwolcott4744 I can agree if you are a cast member or were directly involved in community production, but Pierce's character is a HUGE loss to the show. He was, for me, a great mix between Michael Scott and Creed, as an old man constantly making horrible but hilarious comments without any awareness. After Pierce left the only one with the "scratched" comedy characteristic left was Chang, but Chang unfortunately just becomes a terrible, mostly unfunny character in the finals seasons.
@cilantrolime
@cilantrolime 3 жыл бұрын
@@brennomachado5585 They also portrayed Pierce in a way that makes you sympathize with him. Like for every episode where he's a jerk, there's another big thing he does to show how good he is at heart. (Spoilers ahead) For example; letting Troy stay at his mansion, giving his inheritance to his half-brother, his favoritism of Annie, being a father figure (ish) to Troy, etc. Plus, he actually wanted to move past his old views as shown in the drag queen episode, and when they swapped out some of his "favorite terms" for less offensive options in season two (I forgot which episode :
@uhoh9000
@uhoh9000 3 жыл бұрын
I'll also point out that S4's gimmicks were just that: quirky gimmicks. On every other season the gimmick was used in direct relation to the story of the episode. Abed sees things in claymation because he suffered a trauma from his mother no longer wanting to visit on Christmas, so he reverted to seeing things in stop-motion which reminded him of happy childhood holidays. The video game episode gimmick was in relation to the mind games daddy Hawthorne played with Pierce and Gilbert. But the puppet episode of season 4? Now, nothing much to do with the story of the episode itself, nor do they really comment on puppet style shows like Muppets or Sesame Street. Harmon doing that episode would have made it connect to the plot as well as having several puppet TV show tropes to add life to it. And yes, the finale was the absolute worst. It directly contradicts the sentiment of the s3 episode where the group sees the therapist and recalls a third round of paintball that they call lame and say they will never do again. And then they did it again and they dared to say it was "cool". I was excited for the prospect of another paintball episode and even I cringed at that line.
@kingbeauregard
@kingbeauregard 2 жыл бұрын
The puppet episode was bar none the worst episode of "Community".
@ccshumshum8104
@ccshumshum8104 Жыл бұрын
why are community fans so retarded? the puppets were a good medium to see the group in a setting they otherwise could not have been due to budget constraints. nothing wrong with that episode.
@uhoh9000
@uhoh9000 Жыл бұрын
@ccshumshum8104 the problem with that episode is that it's a standard sitcom storyline and setup instead of parody. Harmon would've written that episode poking fun at and using tropes from the Muppets and Sesame St. Instead it's literally just a normal episode with puppets
@ccshumshum8104
@ccshumshum8104 Жыл бұрын
@@uhoh9000 "...poking fun at and using tropes from..." that wouldn't make it better
@uhoh9000
@uhoh9000 Жыл бұрын
@@ccshumshum8104 what do you think parody is? Lol. That's literally the entire premise of the show. It's a sitcom parody.
@edward4840
@edward4840 3 жыл бұрын
In my view, seasons 1-3 are nearly perfect seasons of television (Season 3 especially)
@combat_chameleon
@combat_chameleon 2 жыл бұрын
the 3rd season finale just felt like a perfect ending tbh and then it continued and the characters kinda got lost
@henrygrace138
@henrygrace138 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this statement
@viewyevening8719
@viewyevening8719 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly to me season 4 feels like the last of "Community" that is normal. Just them in Greendale going about their studies. With seasons 5 and 6 things quickly got weird especially with Pierce and Troy leaving the main cast. That is why I personally look to season 4 as one might look at the last year they spent with a loved one who has passed away. I am not happy with the lost potential of season 4 but I am very happy I got to see it in the first place.
@TY-yx1mq
@TY-yx1mq 3 жыл бұрын
Jeffs speech to his dad is the highlight of the season in my opinion
@cjd3053
@cjd3053 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, I thought that episode was so well done. yes, the premise does feel more like an episode you'd find on your average dramedy, but the writing of that specific scene, and joel's execution of the speech, are amazing to me. I remember sucking in my breath when jeff reveals the scar... I'm tearing up now just thinking about it. it's the type of 'tragic backstory moment' reveal that punches you in the gut, but makes total sense for the character when you reflect on it. the writers of season 4 do deserve some credit for what they did well. for the most part, though... *do* blame it all on the gas leak
@Solarstar10
@Solarstar10 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated seasons of any tv show ever. Is it the weakest season of this show? Absolutely. But it's nowhere nearly as terrible as most people make it out to be. It's still infinitely better than most comedy shows that were being released at the time, and probably better than a lot of sitcoms being released currently.
@samuelwerley528
@samuelwerley528 3 жыл бұрын
It has a couple great episodes, a couple awful episodes, and mostly middling episodes. Seasons 2-3 are just some of the best TV I've ever seen so it's hard to compare
@vincevvn
@vincevvn 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t even think it’s the weakest season. Easily season 6 is the weakest one.
@arthur99mun
@arthur99mun 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincevvn totally agree
@eduardomunhoz1581
@eduardomunhoz1581 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, even the worst of community is still streets ahead the best of most sitcoms
@BexRanner
@BexRanner 3 жыл бұрын
"It's still infinitely better than most comedy shows that were being released at the time, and probably better than a lot of sitcoms being released currently." I don't understand what people are thinking when they say this, the worst episodes of Community are incredibly shitty. I can't comprehend what sitcoms you're watching when you think the bad episodes are "still better than anything else".
@laluenbaires
@laluenbaires 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions "Intro to knots". It's the only episode from the season that I rewatch. That episode could be on any other season and blend in well, imo. I also like Herstory of Dance and History of german invasion. I like this last episode because it shows how the group was viewed by the rest of the school, and they end up doing something about it.
@caoimhedee
@caoimhedee 3 жыл бұрын
honestly? i loved season 6. something about it just felt dumb, goofy, and insane. it feels like the actors just having fun and doing plot lines that don’t make much sense to those who aren’t partial to a particular style of comedy. the first three are still far superior, but there’s something about season 6 that i adore
@mega_lapras6047
@mega_lapras6047 Жыл бұрын
this is a year late but the reason why season 6 worked is because it was organic and actually focused on community college
@davideberhardt6150
@davideberhardt6150 Жыл бұрын
100% agreed. Season 6 gave the show a great finale.
@DyslexicLemonz
@DyslexicLemonz 11 ай бұрын
Every episode felt the same tho. Everybody had their cliche roles and were cookie cutter placed into their scenarios. Also Never finding out what happened to Troy killed season 6 for me. All I wanted was closure.
@BlindBison
@BlindBison 3 жыл бұрын
The characters turned into caricatures of themselves in S4.
@lindenstromberg6859
@lindenstromberg6859 3 жыл бұрын
That actually happened in season 3.
@muffinfighter3680
@muffinfighter3680 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindenstromberg6859 yeah I love season 3 but the characters were just reduced to certain character traits. Poor Britta :(
@Volvagia0slayer
@Volvagia0slayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindenstromberg6859 Agreed. Season 4 tried to get most of the characters back to their Seasons 1-2 selves. Unfortunately Season 3 was such a departure that Season 4 felt off if you didn't rewatch the first two seasons and remember how the characters used to be.
@yuhyuh7603
@yuhyuh7603 3 жыл бұрын
The puppet episode only made me laugh twice, when the Dean took the whip out of puppet Jeff's hand and when puppet Jeff was flirting with him.
@realkingofantarctica
@realkingofantarctica 2 жыл бұрын
I can kind of understand where Chevy was coming from. Despite his and Harmon's relationship, I feel like Dan would've been able to fully complete his character arc in Season 4, but to have that squandered because of a change in direction, it makes sense why he would want to leave right there, especially if he thought his character and the show would go nowhere.
@jannatulshoilee1443
@jannatulshoilee1443 2 жыл бұрын
Season 4 was the worst, even though it was the last season when all 7 main cast were together. I prefer S5&6 because they made sense. The cast leaving was unfortunate but also much like real life where friends fall out but life moves on.
@reeceparriah4772
@reeceparriah4772 3 жыл бұрын
I have changnesia during this season and can’t remember it 😂
@cavanmorvillo1962
@cavanmorvillo1962 3 жыл бұрын
tRoY aNd AbEd In ThE MORNING
@MVFev
@MVFev 3 жыл бұрын
Troy and Abed AND ANNIE in the morning!! ♫ - Allison Brie
@nayt3440
@nayt3440 3 жыл бұрын
nightssss
@adamstewart5188
@adamstewart5188 3 жыл бұрын
Troy and Abed are in mourning ...
@jabreo
@jabreo 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved the way community ended actually. It felt way more real, they over extended their time at greendale, at a community college, and Jeff changed and became like the viewer, which ironically abed had no trouble leaving. Everyone would've preferred a nicer ending with all the original cast but I still feel like having a sitcom end this way was refreshing to see, and again just real. Abed eventually got over his detachment from troy, annie from jeff and the study group, and it showed actual growth
@cheut
@cheut 3 жыл бұрын
Heroic origins rewrites half of the characters backstories just so they can make tenuous connections between characters’ pasts, not a fan
@samjupin1156
@samjupin1156 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly really like episodes 1-8 of season five so far. They're all really good, but I feel like once Troy leaves it just takes away a core element of the show that left it feeling empty. Abed didn't have the same impact without him. I also really like the body swap episode. I've only been watching the season 4 episodes I hear are good (I'm a new fan, so this is my first time watching), and it definitely doesn't disappoint. I really like how you can see a bit of Abed rubbing off on Troy. Troy has a hard time process his emotions and the world around him, so he turns to TV tropes to help him, even if he is trying to escape having to confront him. It's one of my favorite Troy and Abed episodes because it's a great display of their friendship and how they help each other move through the world. It's really solid imo. I've never cared much for romance plots and subplots, so I really just view Troy's relationship with Britta as an opportunity for his character to grow and learn what he wants in life.
@hasibmohammad1959
@hasibmohammad1959 2 жыл бұрын
yeah honestly the last few episodes of it were a bit of a clown fest, season 6 was generally smooth in my opinion, the only weak episode would be the grifting one
@ricksanchez1653
@ricksanchez1653 3 жыл бұрын
I love season 5 and 6, Elroy and Frankie are fantastic characters
@waspywasp451
@waspywasp451 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah they are!
@joselocalau123
@joselocalau123 3 жыл бұрын
i love frankie so much
@thraitor7819
@thraitor7819 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think they actually hold up quite well to the first 3 seasons especially knowing the budget reduction lol
@vinceyu5387
@vinceyu5387 3 жыл бұрын
The season 6 finale is definitely one of the top 5 best episodes
@ImJBlu
@ImJBlu 3 жыл бұрын
Season six is one of my favorite seasons of the show in general
@fitefitefite1073
@fitefitefite1073 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that the last 2 seasons were the worst because while at first it’s funny but when you rewatch it and think about it you realize how sad it is. It’s filled with a hollowed out cast, which the audience has known for a while and instead of trying to find someone to fill these holes they decide to leave the holes wide open and as a result a lot of the characters lost there shine. Abed became a weirdo without Troy there to highlight him (and vise versa) without Pierce there the group had no one to rag on and so some of the smaller happy moments are gone.
@v4leree
@v4leree 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I can't tell because I saw community for the first time when it was just brought to Netflix. I loved it tho, it has become one of my favorite sitcoms. I agree that the relationship between Troy and Britta was weird, but I don't remember liking or disliking a specific episode or thinking it didn't fit in with the rest. I would have to watch it again but i don't know if I could tell any difference without it being biased by what I know now.
@MrBsehratmaannking
@MrBsehratmaannking 3 жыл бұрын
When I was watching community for the first time I never realized season 4 was "different".. to this day I don't think it's "forced" as many say. I think it was fine
@Braham_the_Terror
@Braham_the_Terror 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly.....same.
@gerbendekker3273
@gerbendekker3273 3 жыл бұрын
I do feel that it's the first season where things start to deviate from the track we're put on in seasons 1-3, and there are far less moments and arcs to like than in those earlier seasons, but I really don't think it's horrible the way many people make it out to be. But then, I'm just a sitcom pleb tbh
@MrBsehratmaannking
@MrBsehratmaannking 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerbendekker3273 could be but I didn't notice the deviation even when I first watched the show
@SnailHatan
@SnailHatan 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely did.
@JB-fp3fb
@JB-fp3fb 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I've always felt like the Harmon stans are projecting pretty hard on Season 4.
@digitaldragon101
@digitaldragon101 3 жыл бұрын
My personal ranking list for Community is 2, 3, 1, 5, 4, 6. I know, I'm a heathen for liking 4 more than 6. It's not like I like the episodes more, but season 4 was the last time the main cast was all together, and it still had this vibe that I always associated with the show.
@zyaicob
@zyaicob 3 жыл бұрын
My order is 3 6 1 5 2 4 I like season 4 but it had the most episodes i didn't really enjoy. Season 6 is just really nice for me.
@Akumpo274
@Akumpo274 3 жыл бұрын
My order is 2 5 3 1 6 4. I actually loved season 5 more than season 3 and the 3-episode arc from figuring out Pierce's death to Troy leaving Greendale is potentially the best arc in the series.
@christopherross1309
@christopherross1309 3 жыл бұрын
2 3 1 4 6 5. I hated S5 after Troy left. Almost stopped watching.
@jfreemandrums
@jfreemandrums 2 жыл бұрын
History 101, Paranormal Parentage, Herstory of Dance, Intro to Knots, Advanced Documentary Filmmaking, and Basic Human Anatomy all slap And This is Adventure, the first song from Intro to Felt Surrogacy, is a banger. Plus the Dean interacting with puppet Jeff? Gold
@Gary9ine
@Gary9ine 3 жыл бұрын
I found this show when I was a senior in high school and it was in its final season. I can’t explain the feeling but I watched an episode or 2 every day and found every character was a little part of me. I never noticed the show getting bad because it was getting me thru a lot at the time. I had just broken half my face. I went viral on the internet for a couple months for a few things, and we were graduating. As the show was going thru changes and losing cast members. Things were changing for me and my life was losing cast members. It didn’t matter what episode you watched. No matter what, the show let you know everything is okay and you’re gonna be alright
@doubleagente
@doubleagente 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking "this season isn't that bad" then I went back and looked at the episodes. All I can say is it's something. The season felt like a gag that went on for too long. I was kinda hoping the evil timeline versions of them would have something interesting but it just went on for to long and hyped up for something that felt bland. The changnesia gag was okay... but again felt like it was going for too long. And they didn't even have a satisfying ending to the long extend joke. But I did like the heroic orgins episode too. That one was very funny and I liked the overly complex analysis of everything leading them to go to college
@s29nv1sr1
@s29nv1sr1 3 жыл бұрын
I actually disliked "Heroic Origins" - took out the magic of _Community_ by making the Greendale Seven all connected to each other and destined to meet (instead of being random strangers who end up becoming a family). Objectively fine episode though.
@doubleagente
@doubleagente 3 жыл бұрын
@@s29nv1sr1 yeah true. It definitely wasn't the worst of the season tho
@zacharycremen7545
@zacharycremen7545 3 жыл бұрын
@@s29nv1sr1 I totally agree. The episode is fairly enjoyable but overall it adds absolutely nothing to the show (or, I should say, it adds nothing that anybody asked for/wanted). It’s easily the worst episode of the series for me, besides possibly the conventions episode.
@ItsJascion
@ItsJascion 3 жыл бұрын
@@s29nv1sr1 but didn’t season 3 have an episode that was made solely to make Jeff and Shirley connected? They start out by hanging in an area that they barely go to and get mad because people are playing foosball, give Shirley a skill she never brings up and a backstory Jeff never acknowledges till that moment. Atleast in ‘heroic origins’ they’re still technically strangers that did nothing more than indirectly influenced each other’s lives.
@_the_rizzler
@_the_rizzler 3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsJascion Well, yes. But that was only two people who were connected like 30 years prior and didn't even recognize each other for over two years of being close friends
@Metallica995987
@Metallica995987 3 жыл бұрын
So upon my first watch I think the show started feeling "weird" to me during season 4 but s5e01 really rubbed me the wrong way. In retrospect though I guess it was necessary to retcon the end of season 4 to continue the show. Also, while my initial impression of the last 2 season wasn't great (felt dreary and dreamlike almost), some of my favorite lines were delivered by Elroy, Hickey, and Frankie. I guess the show was irreparably changed after season 3, but I only really find most of season 4 and the very beginning of season 1 hard to re-watch.
@bobthellama6988
@bobthellama6988 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as you said, the point of S5E1 was to set up the rest of the season (and I didn't actually think it was that bad unlike S2E1 which served the same purpose but was found painful af). And I get finding S4 to re-watch, I usually only watch the Freaky Friday episode written by Jim Rash (the dean), not the regular S4 writers, but what's wrong with the start of Season 1? S1 is my favourite community season
@Metallica995987
@Metallica995987 Жыл бұрын
@@bobthellama6988 Ya I love the freaky friday episode too. Season 1 up to the Halloween episode just feels a bit off to me. Like the characters aren't fully fleshed out yet and the emotional beats with the season 1 soundtrack feels a bit too much just like a normal sitcom instead of parody of one. The early part of season one still has some great bits but I think it's just the fact that I've seen the whole show so many times that the very beginning feels awkward and uncanny to me. I'd be lying though if the image of Jeff and Pierce waving the Israeli and Palestinian flags wasn't burned into my brain though.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis Жыл бұрын
It's really bizarre because the concepts for the episodes fit, I can't watch any of them and say "this does not feel like something that would happen on Community". It's the interactions between characters that feel completely wrong, and it's really hard to pinpoint why. Troy especially is a completely different character than in any of the previous seasons.
@zero11010
@zero11010 3 жыл бұрын
Seasons 1-3 were amazing. Season 4 started a downward trend. Once the chemistry of Donald and Chevy were gone the show was never the same. Each season had amazing moments. But, how things were even when Harmon returned to the show just wasn’t the same as when he left. The last season makes me genuinely sad. It fell so far. There isn’t anything in that season that I would be eager to watch a second time. Most of it I didn’t care to watch the first time I saw it. I went from eagerly devouring each episode and excited to watch the next to .... sitting through the last seasons just to have seen it. Not because I was enjoying it, just because I felt obligated to keep watching.
@blooshine
@blooshine 3 жыл бұрын
I usually rewatch community every year and I skip a lot of the season 4 stuff. I don't think it's all bad as people say, and it definitely doesn't deserve the hatred that it gets from itself in later seasons. The gas leak year joke always made me feel a little awkward especially since there are some good episodes. Jim Rash (the actor who played the dean) directed the body swap episode and it hits that sentimental crux point really well that shows like The Simpsons lived off in its first 10 seasons. My favorite episode of the season, Herstory of Dance never gets mentioned. But it's such a solid Britta episode that understands the characters rather than having some eccentric theme episode quirk. Even though I usually skip 70% of the episodes, I think it's okay. Mostly I feel people are upset by the lack of payoff for a lot of the things. Harmon said he always imagined Bill Murray as Jeff's father. Instead we got an awkward Thanksgiving episode that lacked any emotional resonance. Similarly with the Troy/Britta relationship and the horrible inclusion of paintball in the last 6 minutes of the "final episode". The show seemed to homage itself.
@FaumauNZ
@FaumauNZ 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love that first episode of season 5 where you just know Dan is back in full force
@liztuber
@liztuber 3 жыл бұрын
The dean's amulet joke in this season was still one of the best in the show
@SAkURAYOWA
@SAkURAYOWA 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hating the final season the most so when I found out about the hate towards s4, I was confused. As far as I know I had fun watching it til the final season. I just got so bored when cast members started leaving the show and got replaced multiple times by other actors. That’s the part where I felt like everything felt forced.
@Zoronita
@Zoronita 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I feel the same, having finished the show not long ago, the last season is my overall least favourite. A lot of the episode concepts felt recycled and not the same without the old cast members. But overall it's a fantastic show, and most shows have a few less-good seasons.
@brittanygray7416
@brittanygray7416 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoronita I agree. I have re-watched Community twice. First 5 years ago on Nextflix. I got through Seasons 1-4 no problem and stopped after a few episodes of season 5. Last year re-watch exact same thing happened. I agree Seasons 1-3 are the best but Season 4 was entertaining enough that it didn't feel like work to continue watching it.
@abel___
@abel___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@brittanygray7416 For what it's worth, I think Season 6 was decent ish and especially the last 3 episodes of S6 are really great despite the lack of Troy, Pierce, and Shirley
@YuKheThai
@YuKheThai 3 жыл бұрын
@Mo Is Absolutely Cracked You're high. Season 5 is one of the best seasons. Hickey is a great addition to the cast and Troy's final episode is perfect. Season 6 is still vastly better than season 4 and the finale was great. Season 4 had almost no good or funny episodes.
@jonathansodacan5769
@jonathansodacan5769 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, from memory, I remember disliking season 6 more than season 4. Maybe I needa rewatch tho?
@stuff_er
@stuff_er 3 жыл бұрын
Defiinitely try to give it a rewatch, it may be hard going into s06 back then with an open mind after losing most of the main cast of the show but it's such a blast to watch. definitely taking s06 over s04 anyday.
@TheJinjo75
@TheJinjo75 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuff_er I need to watch them again but I remember laughing and enjoying myself while watching both sO5 and s06. I remember how off and sometimes boring s04 was.
@s29nv1sr1
@s29nv1sr1 3 жыл бұрын
For me, season 6 is only decent upon the first time through, but upon rewatch, it gets better. And the last three episodes of the show are still amazing.
@brennomachado5585
@brennomachado5585 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. I put season 6(with the exception of the last 3 episodes) as one of my worst tv experiences ever. I was literally hoping for every episode to end soon.
@soccernicholas6
@soccernicholas6 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuff_er i love season 4 over season 6. season 6 is like a 2/10
@rileypugh6412
@rileypugh6412 3 жыл бұрын
I feel weird watching season 4 but I don’t dislike it if that makes sense. It’s like there’s actually a gas leak
@CRS204
@CRS204 3 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly just glad it’s 2021 and people are still doing video essays on community
@zero_chevalier
@zero_chevalier 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so streets behind! Took me a while to realize that when they say "Gas Leak Year" they were referring to season 4.
@Sugarman96
@Sugarman96 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love the see separate follow up videos for seasons 5 and 6. While not capturing the magic of those first three seasons, there is a lot to like about them.
@domoshea4104
@domoshea4104 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Season 6 is a bit uneven with some great eps & some not-so-great ones but it still felt more like Community & nailed the characters better than season 4. Season 5 is severely underrated. It’s pretty much gold from start to finish
@carlosalbertosantos3475
@carlosalbertosantos3475 3 жыл бұрын
Deanspite popular opinion, I really like seasons 5 and 6. But I’ve only watched the whole show once, and then some good episodes again. I might have to watch the whole show again to have a definite opinion, so that might Chang. But as of right now, I think seasons 2 and 3 are perfection. Seasons 1, 5 and 6 are really good. Season 4 is bad for Community’s standards.
@brewdaly1873
@brewdaly1873 3 жыл бұрын
I really like season 5 and 6. They did an amazing job sending off Troy. Also, Hickey is a great character.
@jackdryden7452
@jackdryden7452 3 жыл бұрын
now theres a man, who knows how to marry his cousin!
@TheLaughingLion23
@TheLaughingLion23 2 жыл бұрын
lol evil emoji in the profile picture. Evil troy and abed i the mooorning
@akira-qr4qm
@akira-qr4qm 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone thinks season 4 is the worst, when to me is so much better than season 5 and 6. Every time I was slowly understanding that a new boring character is gonna be part of the "main" group i wanted to cry
@NeedyForMusic
@NeedyForMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the series for the first time recently and couldn't stand season 6. Most episodes were boring and you can clearly tell it's a different set at some other studio/location, making the study room look depressing
@akira-qr4qm
@akira-qr4qm 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeedyForMusic yeah season 6 is close to unwatchable
@scherb428
@scherb428 3 жыл бұрын
The more I grow up the more I appreciate season 5 and 6. Top tier in my opinion, hated them when I saw them on live TV.
@hamoiq908
@hamoiq908 2 жыл бұрын
My main problem with season 4 was definitely some of the horrendous episodes but it was the lack of continuity with story lines like Jeff doesn’t take extra holiday classes and he was also meant to finish at a certain time cause he has a preset dinner planned.
@Schuisadrummist
@Schuisadrummist 3 жыл бұрын
I went back to watch Community with my wife, who had never seen it before, and we really slowed down around S4-5. With a lot of the actors leaving and coming off the bumpiness of S4, I don't think 5 and 6 really ever got back into the same swing. We eventually finished the show, but I'm left feeling like S1-3 really are the golden years of Community.
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia 3 жыл бұрын
I literally JUST finished watching an episode of Community. Cool, cool cool cool
@MichaelBennettII
@MichaelBennettII 3 жыл бұрын
#SixSeasonsAndAMovie! I had a wild dream that Community finally got a movie, but it was ALF Goes to Community, and it was basically a remake of Rodney Dangerfield's Back To School but with ALF and set at Greendale. The Study Group was tasked by the Dean to help him graduate haha
@citysmall3427
@citysmall3427 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@ilznidiotic
@ilznidiotic 3 жыл бұрын
I would watch that.
@johnnystalker3567
@johnnystalker3567 3 жыл бұрын
You should be a screenwriter.
@MichaelBennettII
@MichaelBennettII 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnystalker3567 If I wrote the script, do you think Harmon would read it?
@johnnystalker3567
@johnnystalker3567 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBennettII if you actually get it to him, then I think he might read it.
@jcpbd1776
@jcpbd1776 2 жыл бұрын
I watched all thru season 4 and just begun season 5, should I binge the rest or just cut losses and only remember 1-3
@pandaborg2466
@pandaborg2466 8 ай бұрын
You cannot convince me that yahoo screen actually existed and was not just people imagining it because of a gas leak
@JoeJaffa
@JoeJaffa 3 жыл бұрын
Heroic Origins is one of my least favorite episodes of the series for how much it retcons everything.
@ultimadum7785
@ultimadum7785 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I found it super lazy when it devolved into the "they were always best friends but didn't know it" thing.
@johnarbuckle2619
@johnarbuckle2619 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's one of the worst.
@kasbt
@kasbt 2 жыл бұрын
I liked it.
@daftbanna7202
@daftbanna7202 3 жыл бұрын
I despise the origin episode. Retconning the whole point of the show
@samuelwerley528
@samuelwerley528 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Having all the main characters crossing paths in the past before they knew each other is super cliche, and it didn't earn enough ironic criticism of the cliche to justify it
@vincevvn
@vincevvn 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it felt a little tacked on but I still really enjoyed it.
@MilesAway
@MilesAway 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY true.
@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia 3 жыл бұрын
The origins episode acts like it adds a whole new layer to these characters, but it doesn't at all. How does it benefit the characters or our understanding of them if it transpires they had totally random coincidental run-ins with each other prior to actually getting to know each other? Why should we care? Nothing else in the show plays on the idea of 'destiny' or things 'meant to be', so what is the point?
@ItsJascion
@ItsJascion 3 жыл бұрын
but didn’t season 3 have an episode that was made solely to make Jeff and Shirley connected? They start out by hanging in an area that they barely go to and get mad because people are playing foosball, give Shirley a skill she never brings up and a backstory Jeff never acknowledges till that moment. They act closer at the end of the episode and then continue afterwards like it didn’t even happen until season 4. Atleast in ‘heroic origins’ they’re still technically strangers that did nothing more than indirectly influenced each other’s lives.
@Gunleaver
@Gunleaver 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, someone who hates the Puppet episode! I was reading Alan Sepinwall's blog with his weekly coverage of episodes, including Community when season 4 aired. Alan and his readers were all head over heels about it and raving how it was the best episode of the season. They'd rave about Sara Bareilles writing the songs, but to my ears, they were all the same tune.
@mattj2692
@mattj2692 3 жыл бұрын
Community always did a great job of turning the behind the scenes issues into topics the show dove into. Starting season 3 off with the song and ending with the Dean telling them they wouldn't have any money this year was great if you knew the behind the scenes drama. Same with how Pierce evolved and devolved based on the behind the scenes issues.
@jorg3023
@jorg3023 3 жыл бұрын
The writer of Rick and Morty The directors of The Avengers A lot of great actors Childish Gambino #SixSeasonsAndAMovie
@hernanhernandezkcomt9646
@hernanhernandezkcomt9646 3 жыл бұрын
the composer of The Mandalorian
@duncan3707
@duncan3707 3 жыл бұрын
Also somehow had Giancarlo Esposito
@KlyzmTheFirst
@KlyzmTheFirst 3 жыл бұрын
and Magnitude
@yungindio
@yungindio 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff's forehead
@jorg3023
@jorg3023 3 жыл бұрын
@@KlyzmTheFirst POP! POP!!
@Netkinetic
@Netkinetic 3 жыл бұрын
How come there is never an episode discussing the Captain Midnight comic book from Fawcett?
@EGRJ
@EGRJ 3 жыл бұрын
Too meta.
@trashcanonabench7199
@trashcanonabench7199 Жыл бұрын
i will forever defend season 6 as the most underrated season in the show, it's so unique, theres this air of sadness to everything that might be too cynical for most but it works for me because it just makes sense
@obi-onekenerdi
@obi-onekenerdi Жыл бұрын
I’ve been binging the entire series in the span of like a week, and I just got to season 4 and in my humble opinion it hasn’t dipped that much. It still feels like community and that’s really all I want it to feel like.
@gy7uj917
@gy7uj917 3 жыл бұрын
5:21 He hated 'Intro to Felt Surrogacy' so much he went out of his way to get the name wrong
@enzodapan5016
@enzodapan5016 3 жыл бұрын
Watching the first episode of Season 5 was like seeing a dead person revive on its former self.
@josephweppelman2021
@josephweppelman2021 3 жыл бұрын
I always took Advanced Introduction to Finality to be ironic rather than nearly any of it serious. Abed saying "We finally made paintball cool again" always struck me as more of a "Yeah, TOTALLY"
@nicholaslever-naylor8315
@nicholaslever-naylor8315 2 жыл бұрын
5:21 he says 'Intro to Felt Surgery'. It's actually Surrogacy but the episode definitively FELT like SURGERY. It put me to sleep, took something away from me and made me uncomfortable for weeks after.
@colorsunknown9770
@colorsunknown9770 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think season 4 just reeked of trying too hard. Every Dan Harmon season just flowed naturally for the most part and the script and cast made it great. But it was clear in season 4 that no other show runner could make community as effortless as Dan Harmon made it.
@MichaelStrawn_I_am
@MichaelStrawn_I_am 3 жыл бұрын
Adam and Eve? Aren’t those s*x toys?🤣
@somerando925
@somerando925 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he got sponsored by a s*x toy company
@emrazum
@emrazum 3 жыл бұрын
don't kink shame people
@MichaelStrawn_I_am
@MichaelStrawn_I_am 3 жыл бұрын
@@emrazum I’m not, it’s just funny.😁
@emrazum
@emrazum 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelStrawn_I_am yes, very unexpected, only used to like sexplanations type channels having them sponsor
@michaelvessel4604
@michaelvessel4604 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's kind of hard to make money on KZbin these days, so I can't blame him for turning to a s*x toy company to make a little extra cash.
@alelex08
@alelex08 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to a film theory video I recently started watching community and when I got to season 4 I felt like it was fine but something was missing.
@thehappyheartwanders
@thehappyheartwanders 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little surprised Herstory of Dance didn't get a shout out in the decent episodes of S4 part, especially since Brie Larson's character is one of the few elements of S4 that carried over into S5. I remember being shocked when that episode aired because it was the first storyline that season that I got emotionally invested in.
@TheStoryBlueprint
@TheStoryBlueprint 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear Paranormal Parentage getting some love for once. That felt like a strong character-based episode to me, on par with a lot of season 3 eps.
@jude2579
@jude2579 3 жыл бұрын
Season 6 is criminally underrated change my mind
@2009TNT
@2009TNT 3 жыл бұрын
Frankie and Elroy are the two greatest late-series additions in any tv show ever. Immediately for right in and never felt like forced copies of the cast members who left
@videogamenostalgia
@videogamenostalgia 3 жыл бұрын
Season 6 is arguably worse than 4. It's just a very sad viewing experience overall - you're acutely aware of the absence of the characters who left. It feels like something that is slowly dying rather than doing a grand finale. It has a couple of good episodes, but overall there's a lot of jumping the shark with weird high concept episodes which don't really land.
@tenworms
@tenworms 3 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched the show, and season 6 may actually be my favorite. Every single episode is a banger, and the new cast members are stellar. It doesn't have the effortless lighthearted charm of season 2 or the insane payoff of season 3 but it's so consistently funny and I think strikes a perfect balance between wacky hijinks and sobering realism.
@zachruggiero3681
@zachruggiero3681 3 жыл бұрын
@@videogamenostalgia I think Season 6 has duds but there’s also some real bangers in there. The finale is one of my favorite series finales of all time and I also really love the wedding documentary episode
@MakingItInDC
@MakingItInDC 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The series finale is so damn near perfect. And Frankie and Elroy were amazing additions.
@ricardorusso1462
@ricardorusso1462 2 жыл бұрын
Awww you just made me remember “Happy Endings”! That show got cut down way too early!
@richardmason13
@richardmason13 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because I was late to series but I watched the first 4 seasons back to back and didn't notice the change. It wasn't until Season 5 where I thought it didn't feel the same anymore. Season 6 has a few episodes I'm not keen on watching again, but S1-4 is always on repeat
@brianbrant6079
@brianbrant6079 3 жыл бұрын
Probably worth noting that Dan's season 4 would have also had Britta and Troy dating. I mean, he may have made it feel more natural for people (I thought it was alright), but still.
@aidenbutterfield754
@aidenbutterfield754 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how badly I would like a Movie, even if it's just ok, the fact they have been saying 6 seasons and a Movie for so long, and by some miracle they got 6 seasons, the should happen just for the sake of it
@howhippie-
@howhippie- 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, think you just inspired me to write my own community season 6 retrospective.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 жыл бұрын
You're not alone, Captain. I too remember Yahoo Screen, and the only thing I watched there was Community's 6th and final season. Which I have on DVD anyway.
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