Why Senate Guards were Kinda Useless

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@geetslys
@geetslys 4 жыл бұрын
Senate Guards are useless but my discord isnt: discord.gg/geetslys
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heart. You're content is awesome
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 жыл бұрын
Geetsly's Sagoro Autem: am I a joke to you?
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
ANAKIN WAS VERY UNCASUAL.
@britishrobot2250
@britishrobot2250 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost like cad bane was one of the best bounty hunters out there, being able to subdue jedi and clone captains, and that the senate guard were usually caught of guard and out of position and the jedi also failed to detect the disguised bounty hunters
@jacktheflash8478
@jacktheflash8478 4 жыл бұрын
Geetsly's no
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 4 жыл бұрын
They should be called Palpatine’s guard since he is the senate.
@liamgossard526
@liamgossard526 4 жыл бұрын
Not. Yet.
@dr.bright6272
@dr.bright6272 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamgossard526 it's treason then?
@kaidenbraught4573
@kaidenbraught4573 4 жыл бұрын
Auuuugghhhhhh!
@Seth10010
@Seth10010 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaidenbraught4573 *whoop zoom* "ahghhhh"
@rapliberationarmy089
@rapliberationarmy089 4 жыл бұрын
Cringywhitemale ”ohhhhhhh“
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 4 жыл бұрын
The Senate Guard was good against unskilled foes and most unarmed foes but anyone else rolled over them except the unit who saved Ashoka on Mandalore the one true good guard unit
@ThomasMcHughRedDead
@ThomasMcHughRedDead 4 жыл бұрын
The headphone jack on the iPhone:
@ZacharyReaper
@ZacharyReaper 4 жыл бұрын
Which episode is that?
@CloneCaptainMaxCC-
@CloneCaptainMaxCC- 4 жыл бұрын
Edaug-ethanb YT well, they were Mandos. The most cracked up, testosterone filled creatures in the universe.
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 4 жыл бұрын
CloneCaptainMax CC-5959 I mean during the peace talks when Lux was saved by Ashoka and he went to Carlac That unit was a senate guard unit They went to Carlac to see the Death Watch
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary Reaper Season 4 Episode 14 Edit: It’s called A friend in Need
@ahsokatano5498
@ahsokatano5498 4 жыл бұрын
At least that one guard sacrificed himself to the Zillo Beast to let Palpatine escape. Very smart decision!
@dopedoge3603
@dopedoge3603 4 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka Tano nah, he could’ve saved the Jedi order right there
@ahsokatano5498
@ahsokatano5498 4 жыл бұрын
@@dopedoge3603 Haha! More like a majority of the known universe! (there*)
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 4 жыл бұрын
That moment you realise the empire, the Death Star, Darth Vader, years of war and everything could have never happened if that guard choose to book it instead of sacrificing himself to save Palpatine. The Zillo Beast nearly saved the galaxy, which just makes its death even more sad RIP Zillo Beast, the Galaxy didn’t deserve you
@ichigoisthegoat
@ichigoisthegoat 4 жыл бұрын
Ryaquaza 1 the zillo beast lived a sad life may it rest in peace
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Zillo beast. You could've saved the galaxy. But plot armor and the will of the force. Got in the way😔
@tdtv2855
@tdtv2855 4 жыл бұрын
The senate guards were able to fight Commando Droids. They took down 3 of the commando droids before the first senate guard went down. I just think they were mad useless when plot needed them to be useless.
@redknight5318
@redknight5318 4 жыл бұрын
TD Tv which episode was this?
@mrmeleemushroom
@mrmeleemushroom 4 жыл бұрын
Red Knight season 4 episode 14
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
Wow three droids😒! More like target practice to me lol.
@tdtv2855
@tdtv2855 4 жыл бұрын
King Namor 777 they were commando droids. Not just regular droids.
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
@@tdtv2855Yeah, but they still lost the battle. What was the point of killing the one strong droid; if you died and failed your duty in the process. Our very own U.S soldiers are better than them.
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 4 жыл бұрын
“Senate, can we get the Mandalorians on Coruscant?” “We already have the Mandalorians on Coruscant” The Mandalorians on Coruscant:
@ahsokatano5498
@ahsokatano5498 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! 😂
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 4 жыл бұрын
Ryaquaza 1 *Coruscant
@Shanaoh
@Shanaoh 4 жыл бұрын
Clones: *ahem* *ahem*
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 4 жыл бұрын
The Liamster oh idk how to spell it, fixed it now
@thornthornthorne4531
@thornthornthorne4531 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me?
@cojiro9616
@cojiro9616 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a question I've had for a little while, and this seems like the perfect place to ask it. Do you think that Argyus's betrayal severely damaged the Senate Guard's reputation, to the point that senators preferred to have their security detail consist of Shock Troopers rather than the Senate Commandos? We see this when Padme goes to Scipio accompanied by Shock Troopers. This downturn could also further facilitate Palpatine's introduction of the Red Guard.
@SkitGaming
@SkitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet that Argyus’ betrayal was swept under the rug to save face, not only would a blow to the reputation of the senate guard be bad for the senators themselves, but it would expose the republic as impotent and corrupt. It would damage the morale of Republic citizens to see so plainly how the “best of the best” were just preppy decorations and could possibly lead to more secession movements.
@nicksoapdish157
@nicksoapdish157 4 жыл бұрын
Taylor N have you ever read Crimson Empire yet?
@marshal_plays
@marshal_plays 4 жыл бұрын
Skit Gaming now I get where you coming from, but the whole reading for the separatists movement was because the republic was inept and corrupt.
@thecalmclone2813
@thecalmclone2813 4 жыл бұрын
No answer but this is a good question
@jamiec9260
@jamiec9260 4 жыл бұрын
@@marshal_plays Yeah but the Republic propaganda machine would almost certainly be working overtime to hide any sign of corruption for that very reason. The last thing you want is for the enemy propaganda to be proven true and their cause correct - that would be bad on both for morale AND dissuading people from joining the Seps
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 4 жыл бұрын
Could these examples also serve as the “final straw” Palpatine needed to create the Red Robed Guards?
@geetslys
@geetslys 4 жыл бұрын
Probably, we don't really see them that much after and we see the red guards during Ahsoka's trial
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 4 жыл бұрын
Geetsly's I wonder if any of the Blue Lamp Posts were “promoted “ after the fall of the Republic...
@moon_girl4468
@moon_girl4468 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaidorade1317 The Red Guard in RotS and The Clone Wars are not the Imperial guard, they are not very good soldiers and are basically just the Senate Guards. At least from my research, please correct me if I am wrong.
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 4 жыл бұрын
Jacurus Zenris thanks for the correction
@moon_girl4468
@moon_girl4468 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaidorade1317 You're welcome.
@Digimonfan-w9o
@Digimonfan-w9o 4 жыл бұрын
It's likely that they were once a Elite Force but the corruption and keeping in the family problems almost certainly drag them down
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 4 жыл бұрын
Austin Lawrence very Preatorian guard. Except you know, not even able to kill the empire.
@afriendlycadian9857
@afriendlycadian9857 4 жыл бұрын
@@midshipman8654 the preatorian guard were much better though they only sucked dick because its the two main characters and cause the fight scene was shit plus one of the guards would of killed ray if his other dagger didnt disappear when he was about too and another had her in a hold that eould of cut her head off
@EnderMan314-USA
@EnderMan314-USA 4 жыл бұрын
@@afriendlycadian9857 I'm pretty sure we're talking about the Roman Praetorian Guard.
@chrisk3127
@chrisk3127 2 жыл бұрын
corruption and complacency from not being needed very often before the clone wars
@Enchilahda
@Enchilahda 4 жыл бұрын
They always seemed pretty useless😂 Their armor was the only cool thing about them
@nukekhang1740
@nukekhang1740 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Ovalle you mean the helm. The rest just looks like regular clone trooper armor to me.
@geetslys
@geetslys 4 жыл бұрын
and that shoulder pad that was made of blaster resistant materials
@keeganrupnik6156
@keeganrupnik6156 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on why papaltine formed the red guard?
@tshirtbanana6962
@tshirtbanana6962 4 жыл бұрын
@@keeganrupnik6156 No I can't right now. Maybe I'll make that video later. Good idea though and thanks for watching!
@moon_girl4468
@moon_girl4468 4 жыл бұрын
​@@tshirtbanana6962 Are you Geetsly's?
@karstenshields1694
@karstenshields1694 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood why people in movies and and video games beg for their life from enemies it’s like just play dead
@okaysoanyways2645
@okaysoanyways2645 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr live to fight another day dumbass or at least live long enough to warn someone.
@zas3734
@zas3734 4 жыл бұрын
@@okaysoanyways2645 if they just have kill ALL of you're team-mates without a flinch they will never spare you , so why beg in that case ? , try to play dead and maybe you will survive
@xtremeemperor
@xtremeemperor 4 жыл бұрын
Since people have given logical answers on what to do, I’ll explain why the director has them beg for mercy. It is so the audience sees how bad the bad guy is.
@okaysoanyways2645
@okaysoanyways2645 4 жыл бұрын
@@xtremeemperor we already knew how bad the bad guys were when they encountered the first set of guards. The part where aura was sniping them and when Bane snapped another's neck.
@okaysoanyways2645
@okaysoanyways2645 4 жыл бұрын
@@markuzzepeda7040 i dont remember the episode but know it was a padme/Anakin episode. Idk
@piercepayumo4212
@piercepayumo4212 4 жыл бұрын
Faro Argyus: "Sometimes being a good soldier means doing what you think is right."
@josephhughes4855
@josephhughes4855 4 жыл бұрын
Then proceeds to sell out to the Sepratists and betray the Republic
@Decepticoncause
@Decepticoncause 4 жыл бұрын
The Republic was a shell of its former self. A slave army, forcing peacekeepers to become generals, and not having a standing army. The Separatists were the future.
@demanischaffer
@demanischaffer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Decepticoncause You do know that "Peacekeeper" does not mean Ghandi style pacifists, right? The separatists were the ones who build an army for the sole purpose of forcing the Republic go give into demands The Republic didn't ask for the Clones, they were handed them and a war on the same day
@masteroftheassassins
@masteroftheassassins 4 жыл бұрын
pierce payumo Commander Gree: “You and I disagree on what makes a good soldier-“ (gets knocked out by Nute Gunray).
@BadBomb555
@BadBomb555 4 жыл бұрын
Clones: "Good soldiers follow orders."
@calebcroy07
@calebcroy07 4 жыл бұрын
Now I can’t be sure, but I don’t think Geetsly’s likes the Senate guard.
@thecalmclone2813
@thecalmclone2813 4 жыл бұрын
The808mekanic Beats Yeah i am not sure? No idea why they were the best soldiers in the republic
@Metroph_YT
@Metroph_YT 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecalmclone2813 Yeah waayyy better than the arc troopers
@karamains9454
@karamains9454 4 жыл бұрын
"ranks were handed out as casually as Anakin carving up younglings" you've just had it haven't you. wow no mercy
@viperson9818
@viperson9818 4 жыл бұрын
I think the only time i see the senate guard do well was when Ashoka was escaping mandalore with lux. They were happy to protect her and fight off the droids. Thats the only time they don’t fight anyone on the most wanted list in TCW. Can’t blame them for losing to top of the line bounty hunters. Jedi and clones struggle to fight/capture them as well.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 жыл бұрын
viper Son yeah but their job was literally to fight off bounty hunters and assassins sent after the senators. Like that was their whole purpose.
@huskythedinosaur1592
@huskythedinosaur1592 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikik5567 and clones were designed to be the best soldiers possible.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 жыл бұрын
Husky The Dinosaur what’s ur point?
@huskythedinosaur1592
@huskythedinosaur1592 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikik5567 They both sucked at it.
@edmdemonz8167
@edmdemonz8167 4 жыл бұрын
@@huskythedinosaur1592 well i mean the clones weren't as bad as the senate guard the clones could actually mostly do their job
@bendesantiago3940
@bendesantiago3940 4 жыл бұрын
The "pacifist" Mandalorian guards were way better
@StonewallTitlow
@StonewallTitlow 6 ай бұрын
Yeah.. to be fair those guards were cool.
@elnationalista
@elnationalista 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was orchestrated by Palpatine. By showing their uselessness, he had every excuse to eliminate such branch with the red guards.
@Specter463
@Specter463 3 жыл бұрын
Even though they served as blaster fodder for most of the show, you gotta appreciate their armor design. Some of the coolest in the Star War universe in my opinion. I assume they were based off of the Praetorian guards of Rome, as they are notoriously portrayed as inept and traitors, killing emperors on numerous occasions.
@zarddin
@zarddin 4 жыл бұрын
Every army or security force is strong as long as it have the "what you know and what you can do" requirements and when that is replaced by "who do you know and who was your daddy" than all of them go to shit. Not only in Star Wars but also in real life and history.
@sheevpalps3846
@sheevpalps3846 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the title said why the Senate was useless. That would’ve been treason.
@sheevpalps3846
@sheevpalps3846 3 жыл бұрын
@T teg Egg Who needs the Republic?
@theautomator8372
@theautomator8372 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda isn't the word I'd use, Completely is much better
@yankeeforcestudios5431
@yankeeforcestudios5431 4 жыл бұрын
Justin Lozada come on, I wouldn’t say that. At least they’re good as human shields.
@jacktheflash8478
@jacktheflash8478 4 жыл бұрын
You are both wrong
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
They were really pathetic before and during the Clone Wars.
@jacktheflash8478
@jacktheflash8478 4 жыл бұрын
King Namor 777 pathetic isn’t the right word
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacktheflash8478 🤔Ineffective?
@TheMartyandy
@TheMartyandy 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they're bad, I just think they suffer from a common injustice in the series called "We need to think of an artificial way to keep the plot moving" syndrome. They fail because the plot needs them to fail. It's a bit like unnamed clones - If two unnamed clones are guarding something, it's practically a guarantee that they'll be wildly incompetent and end up dying. This show as a whole just has a tendency of making people too incompetent to win rather than coming up with witty, tactical ways for the enemy to overcome the challenge. Almost every villain suffers from it, sometimes the heroes suffer from it.
@casbot71
@casbot71 4 жыл бұрын
Pragmatically, as soon as the Clone Wars started, the Senate guard should have been _replaced with Clone troopers._ [Maybe even some veterans that had lost limbs and had cybernetic leg replacements as commanders, since they probably couldn't run as fast as regular clones out in the field]. And even a few junior Jedi as first assignments, they can still Force control minds and sense danger. Besides they will get a chance to hang with Clones and understand them before having to work with Clones on the battlefield, where it's too busy to learn how they think - getting on well with Clones is a skill, just like gaining familiarity with a person. And the Clones can help explain the basics of their military doctrine, so the Jedi won't accidentally get a bunch killed out in the field on their first few missions. On a side note, what did the Senate guard do when Order 66 came down?
@CAMSLAYER13
@CAMSLAYER13 2 жыл бұрын
The robo limbs in startwars were just as good if not better than regular limbs
@chezboi8843
@chezboi8843 Жыл бұрын
The Coruscant guard were a group of Clone troopers; they were basically Palestine’s personal security service. I think they could’ve been used to protect the senate.
@ninofromkitchennightmares1497
@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 Жыл бұрын
@@chezboi8843 That was their job pretty much they replaced the senate guard almost entirely considering they outnumbered them as well as being better trained and not susceptible to bribes the senate guard only stuck around because of tradition and having already been established in the republic
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 4 жыл бұрын
The weakening of the senate guard also helped reduce faith in that institution, making the transition smoother.
@OmegaGummybear
@OmegaGummybear 4 жыл бұрын
so glad someone made a video on this. Every time I watch Clone wars and see them I always like,"wow, someone is going to attack and they won't be able to do anything"
@Mankorra_Gomorrah
@Mankorra_Gomorrah 4 жыл бұрын
The senate guard is one of my favorite things in all of Star Wars lore. As much as i loved the clone wars i really hated to see them use the guard as a joke and then flesh them out by making one of their leaders a traitor. It’s a shame that every time the writers need to make someone look like an idiot for something cool to happen it was almost always the guard.
@scottm8292
@scottm8292 4 жыл бұрын
So a mix of corruption and incompetence led to them being supplemented, and eventually replaced, by the clone Shock Troopers.
@naturalist4life396
@naturalist4life396 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest reasons for their incompetence were internal corruption, lack of formal training, and the fact they were expected to go against troublemakers and assassins, not trained warriors
@thekhans2823
@thekhans2823 4 жыл бұрын
The only good Guard are the Mandalorian Guard that saved Ashoka, the only good guard in Star Wars
@TheHawkeye0725
@TheHawkeye0725 4 жыл бұрын
And Magnaguard
@jameskeys663
@jameskeys663 4 жыл бұрын
You talking about in a friend in need
@thekhans2823
@thekhans2823 4 жыл бұрын
@Rogue Network Well I guess so
@thekhans2823
@thekhans2823 4 жыл бұрын
@James Keys What do you mean my Apprentice?
@jameskeys663
@jameskeys663 4 жыл бұрын
The Khans from the series season 4 episode 14 a friend in need
@yab_613
@yab_613 4 жыл бұрын
One other event that you didn’t cover was on Mandore. I don’t remember the name of the episode, but it was the one that Ashoka saves Lux Bontairi from commando droids, and when they are fleeing we see the senate commandos being obliterated by the droids.
@ugiustuskeiserus8066
@ugiustuskeiserus8066 4 жыл бұрын
The Legends Senate Commandos are actually pretty good at their job
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 жыл бұрын
Ügiustus Keiserus yeah, Sagoro Autem was as badass as a non-Force user could get!
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 4 жыл бұрын
Of course, the Legends are always better
@kingnamor777
@kingnamor777 4 жыл бұрын
@@comradekenobi6908 True dat👏🏿. Nothing can beat the legends!
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 жыл бұрын
Uhh... Clone Wars is also a part of Legends, the whole series is in this weird position when is from both Legends and Canon, like the original 6 movies
@ugiustuskeiserus8066
@ugiustuskeiserus8066 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 People may claim that, Wookieepedia included, but that's just not the case. There's far too many contradictions in Filoni's TCW to be included in Legends. Grievous; Maul; Dooku being a complete and total douchebag, uber-evil villain instead of a morally complex and complicated anti-hero/villain depending on your perspective; clone ranks, training and lore; Mandalorians and countless other things are all completely different from the actual Legends stories out there and they both cannot exist simultaneously.
@mikkelnpetersen
@mikkelnpetersen 3 жыл бұрын
Real world royal guards: YEARS of training. Star Wars senate guards: 4 weeks of loitering around
@cesarcontla3603
@cesarcontla3603 4 жыл бұрын
The Virgin Senate Guard The Chad Emperor’s Royal Guard
@clone9159
@clone9159 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@DrakeKnight99
@DrakeKnight99 3 жыл бұрын
The Uber Chad Magnaguard
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 4 жыл бұрын
Well technically yes they are worthless, because they're weren't supposed to be at war and protection is lackluster, just like the red clones in coruscant, and probably were even worse when general grievous attacked it.
@chefboyardee1148
@chefboyardee1148 4 жыл бұрын
you had best not be including Thorne in that
@adamwitt7788
@adamwitt7788 4 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest as many of them were wiped out bye either General Grievous or CAD Bane the remaining guards we're probably the bottom of the barrel promoted because they were the last man standing.
@jaeger.editz_
@jaeger.editz_ 4 жыл бұрын
The "red clones" were the coruscant guard
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 4 жыл бұрын
@@chefboyardee1148 yes thorn, look what happened to him.
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaeger.editz_ well I know and most people know but not everyone knows what I'm talking about
@albusvoltavern4500
@albusvoltavern4500 4 жыл бұрын
The senate, the senate guards, the Jedi. All institutions that were ultimately shadows of their former selves during the prequels.
@Leitis_Fella
@Leitis_Fella 4 жыл бұрын
Of course they stood no chance against the super commando droids, designed by the insane genius Calub Awool of the Zann party. Known for a design feature where upon taking critical damage, they screamed their creator's surname while wildly swinging their vibroblades
@delta7293
@delta7293 4 жыл бұрын
Senate guards are my favorite Legos
@abominationtheguy6790
@abominationtheguy6790 4 жыл бұрын
Aren’t they more or so minifigures?
@delta7293
@delta7293 4 жыл бұрын
@@abominationtheguy6790 yea, I meant minifigures. My bad.
@BeskarDevil
@BeskarDevil 4 жыл бұрын
Abomination The Guy I remember that battle pack in 2015. I think I still have the captain
@Blackness_78
@Blackness_78 Жыл бұрын
Kinda sad how they have these epic uniforms, yet they get shredded like a hot knife through body
@NurseGundam
@NurseGundam 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine might have had a hand in the terrible performance of the guard, he seems to get his hands everywhere else.
@killerbean-wx3ib
@killerbean-wx3ib 4 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair the guard was deemed elite due to fighting regular military not ill-regular like cad banes gang cad bane is on a whole nother level they could take on Jedi as they captured obi wan...just saying
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 жыл бұрын
killer bean2123 they never faced an actual military force and were never meant to. They were to stop assassins and criminals. So technically, bane is the one type of fight they should’ve been expected to succeed in
@killerbean-wx3ib
@killerbean-wx3ib 4 жыл бұрын
Niki K that may be true but they were facing criminals that were backed by the CIS and led by bane these weren’t your run of the mill pirates or criminals they were trained professionals on par or above regular soldiers they could easily take on clones and not to mention Jedi so what would expect the senate guards to do they even took Jedi hostage during the senate hostage crisis lol
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 4 жыл бұрын
killer bean2123 oh I’m not saying they should’ve won. But I’d expect a better performance from the Star Wars equivalent of the secret service.
@Sploinkss
@Sploinkss 4 жыл бұрын
killer bean2123 I don’t think a year or so or whatever amount of training they do would beat 10 years of training and experience on the battlefield bud.
@killerbean-wx3ib
@killerbean-wx3ib 4 жыл бұрын
Splonk you do know that the average real life time for the average special forces training is 1 month right which is the exact same for the the blue guard and the war only lasted 3-4 years not 10 lol
@patrickcarroll3389
@patrickcarroll3389 4 жыл бұрын
They did pretty well against commando droids on mandalor.
@Fallen_blackrose
@Fallen_blackrose 9 ай бұрын
I believe the term "elite" is given to just about everyone in Star wars, I wouldnt trust these guys to do an oil change in my car
@funn7bo150
@funn7bo150 4 жыл бұрын
The question that always bugged me is that... Why do they resemble spartans?
@robertharris6092
@robertharris6092 4 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Sosa spartans arnt roman though.
@TheAbyssal
@TheAbyssal 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertharris6092 well that time period helmets where all pretty similar between the Romans Greeks and Spartans , Im pretty sure there helmets where just modified some between them they where pretty similar
@sheepbeeps3369
@sheepbeeps3369 3 жыл бұрын
as an astetic choice it invokes old glory, and the sheer age of the guard itself. The flipside is it fits perfectly with how outdated, corrupt, and weak the once glorious guard had become.
@mugo3457
@mugo3457 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly why the clone wars TV series isn't cannon lol. you can't just casually park on the senate building and shoot guards in broad daylight. people are going to see you and soon the Coruscant police system will have shock troopers and jedi come over and arrest you. plus there'd already be waaayy more security to start with.
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 4 жыл бұрын
So basically-when the Red Emperor Guards came along, Blue Senate Guards: *Am I a joke to you?*
@Ulvetann
@Ulvetann 4 жыл бұрын
Red Emperor Guards unisonally; *"Yes!"*
@WSB1469
@WSB1469 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I want to create new guards Senate: We have our own guards at home Guards at home:
@alrightfritz9692
@alrightfritz9692 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I AM the senate
@bradmorales4002
@bradmorales4002 4 жыл бұрын
How bad or good were these guards in Legends? The Royal Red and Shadow Guards were the best.
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 жыл бұрын
Practically the same I believe
@tragedyplustime8271
@tragedyplustime8271 4 жыл бұрын
@@LAV-III Uh, no. Senate Guards were fucking useless while Imperial Royal Guards (And by extension the Shadow Guard) were some of the best in the Galactic Empire.
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 жыл бұрын
TragedyplusTime yeah that’s why I said they were the same I in legends I wasn’t comparing them to the red guard
@QX1138
@QX1138 4 жыл бұрын
Clone wars and rebels are like a video game that has been set on super easy where the story characters have cheat codes on, nothing is a challenge to them.
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 4 жыл бұрын
"or do you think they were just glorified lamp shades?" I think thats insulting to lamp shades.
@Theavel2233
@Theavel2233 4 жыл бұрын
They are basically police honor guard of a peacetime government that were not battle hardened, Why train an elite guard unit when most plants have their own defense forces.
@ThePalaeontologist
@ThePalaeontologist 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Warhammer 40K: _Adeptus Custodes aka literally sacred band of 10,000 nigh on immortal demi-gods fighting Daemons and otherwise standing for literal centuries on the spot guarding the God Emperor against all the horrors of the galaxy_ (known as being multiple times scarier than even the Astartes and of a superior ''design''; also known for winning battles where they kill like 100,000 serious enemies and might lose about 3 of their own, no exaggeration) Meanwhile in HALO: _Promethean Knights aka ultra massives among the Forerunner Warrior-servants, guarding long silent Forerunner shield worlds against the Flood and anyone else who dares tangle with them_ (known as being more effective against even the Flood; just not numerous enough to stop them) Meanwhile in Doctor Who: _Dalek warriors guarding anything they happen to be interested in that season_ (known for being overwhelmingly powerful combatants with shielding that can tank nuclear blasts and reentry speed impacts into volcanic rock; also known for being genocidal space pepperpots with a lightyear wide mean streak) Meanwhile in Star Wars: _Senate Guards_ "I has laser gun and laser gun go pew pew hehe"
@jasonalcatraz5817
@jasonalcatraz5817 4 жыл бұрын
"Undertook GRUELING 4 week training programs. UGH, four weeks, I couldn't possbily..." For those thinking the sarcasm may be misplaced, let's put this into some context. To quote Google: All SEALs must go through the 24 week Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL school and then a 28 week SEAL qualification training program. Only 1% of sailors who enter BUD/S school complete it -- and that's not the end of training. Training for a first deployment can take as much as 30 months. That's for Navy SEALs, a group often considered to be the best of the best, at least in the military.
@jasonalcatraz5817
@jasonalcatraz5817 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Willard Mitchell It's no wonder why the Senate Guard are perceived as glorified bouncers.
@thegraylady4386
@thegraylady4386 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Fox and his Crew: "Tsss, pathetic"
@AnAntiApple
@AnAntiApple 4 жыл бұрын
Even a lamp shade can hold symbolism. i feel that was their primary purpose, to grant those around them a sense of peace and control with having them around. Believing in the notion that the guards should be, but only represented.
@quincyhinrichs5861
@quincyhinrichs5861 4 жыл бұрын
I thought these guards looked so cool tho
@karlrovey
@karlrovey 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the guide books for Episodes 1 and 2 (prior to Clone Wars) stating that the weaponry of the Senate Guards was unwieldy and mostly for ceremonial purposes. In other words, they were originally just for show.
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 4 жыл бұрын
And the worst part is they look really cool... And the concept is neat... wish they had more to them
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 4 жыл бұрын
The Virgin Senate Guard VS the Chad Imperial Royal Guard.
@ChuckJustice123
@ChuckJustice123 4 жыл бұрын
agreed, in general i think that every republic planet should have built up there own military cause in the clone wars as you have said many times before they where massively outnumbered. it would have been useful if the republic planets had there own defense forces and didn't 100% rely on the clones to come and rescue them or defended them. in general the war would have ended a lot sooner if the republic planets had defense forces this would have never happened. still the clones are amazing and I have teared up every time i see one in season 7 so far
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 4 жыл бұрын
Planetary Defence Forces (Or Militias) are a thing in star wars but they're not as used as they should be nor were they very centralized.
@chasetoyama8184
@chasetoyama8184 3 жыл бұрын
“Grueling 4 week training programs.” Clones, who were trained to be super soldiers for 10 years: are we a joke to you?
@albusvoltavern4500
@albusvoltavern4500 4 жыл бұрын
They’re like the military police in attack on titan
@christophersalinas2722
@christophersalinas2722 3 жыл бұрын
Damn.
@johnwillsea6600
@johnwillsea6600 4 жыл бұрын
Before the Clone wars (in legends though it was cannon at the time those clone wars episodes were made) a Great majority of the experienced senete gaurd left with Tarkin along with an army of droids to try and take Zomona Zekot (a highly advanced bioship planet) and almost all were lost when the planet went into hyperspace (later conquered by the yuzanvong ). Thus there were only new initiates and recruits hired hastily just prior to the outset of the Clone wars explaining why they were disloyal and incompetent. It's also what Palpatine used to allow him to set up the Red Gaurd based off the Sungaurd thus explaining how they disappear by the time of the empire. Thanks for the video, Hope this helps and have a wonderful day
@nutshackmac6078
@nutshackmac6078 4 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Senate Commandos, and when I was little I was mad at and started to hate the bounty hunters for killing them.
@commanderdark3399
@commanderdark3399 2 жыл бұрын
you can almost see the disappointment on the clones faces when they turn up to the senate building and have to deal with the senate guards mess and the hostages
@sneakytaze5336
@sneakytaze5336 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so upset. Because Senate guards were cool in my opinion and I liked them. But when I was a kid and watched the episode I felt so bad for them. I almost cried because I felt bad how they were just slaughtered.
@paolopesare3566
@paolopesare3566 4 жыл бұрын
Senate guard: "I love my job, I'm far away from danger!" Cad Bane: "that's sweet"
@CaptainM792
@CaptainM792 4 жыл бұрын
I believe those Senate guards with a broom on the helmet and a cape 0:01 were much more elite than the senate commandos 0:45 . They commandos should be the senate equivalent of clone troopers.
@CallumThomas104
@CallumThomas104 4 жыл бұрын
The simple reason they weren’t prepared because thought that an attack could not happen and it did, Cad Bane used fear and that caused everyone to go into panic mode and not beef up the senate’s defences.
@joshuateixeira2709
@joshuateixeira2709 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Senate Guard were pretty useless in The Clone Wars, but the only time they weren't useless was when Ahsoka and Lux were being pursued by Commando Droids and the Senate Guard covered their escape while the two of them escaped Mandalore.
@topdog5252
@topdog5252 4 жыл бұрын
“Son... I wouldn’t be so hasty if I were you...” Cad Bane. Proceeds to wreck Senate Guard.
@nicorozner7417
@nicorozner7417 4 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. The GAR has millions of the most battle-hardened, well trained and equipped soldiers in the galaxy. They are genetically bred to fight and kill in combat, and do so with nigh impossible effectiveness. Yet the Senate Building, the most important building in the entire Republic, is guarded by overfunded pushover militiamen. Why, though?
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
@SelfProclaimedEmperor 2 жыл бұрын
Tradition I suppose, the Senate Guard has been around for thousands of years, the Clones just showed up yesterday, who would you trust?
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thousands of years of tradition, I would assume. Plus it would be a bit too overtly militaristic to have clones guarding the senate.
@WyvernCV
@WyvernCV 4 жыл бұрын
"Guardsmen who fail" *Commissar appears, bolter in hand*
@jearmychavez9389
@jearmychavez9389 4 жыл бұрын
Senate guard looks so cool but could die like Stormtroopers on endor to rocks and twigs
@calvinmatthews1527
@calvinmatthews1527 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot another example: When some were taken out by a single assassin when transporting Duchess Satine from Mandolore.
@jackthelucario
@jackthelucario 4 жыл бұрын
Judging anyone against Cad Bane is kinda unfair. He’s the best of the best, so it makes sense that anyone would be beneath him.
@alleuriz2440
@alleuriz2440 4 жыл бұрын
My question is: What did the Senate Guard do during Order 66? The Republic was disbanded and reformed into The Empire. Since the Jedi Temple Guards joined forces with the Jedi and fought the clones, what did the Senate Guards do?
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 жыл бұрын
Probably remained in the Senate building. They have to business with the Jedi and they don't interfere with whatever the clones were doing
@genericname2423
@genericname2423 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn’t realize this video was from today
@koyegus
@koyegus 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget how they also let the chancellor get kidnapped
@rapliberationarmy089
@rapliberationarmy089 4 жыл бұрын
On a sidenote, does anyone know why the senate guard‘a design was suddenly totally different in The Clone Wars?
@NCR_Trooper_
@NCR_Trooper_ 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the only time we actually see them fight, it happens to be against ridiculously powerful bounty hunters that even carve through clones, and even had to face Asajj Ventress, I wouldn’t expect much. I personally love the Senate Commandos, I just wish we saw them face less OPAF opponents
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 4 жыл бұрын
There are so many different things that had they been even slightly different they whole series would be different That’s what made Star Wars movies made by Lucas so cool and what Disney mainly lacks as well as the ability to understand that not all major characters have to be force sensitive or be related to a force sensitive
@akush42069
@akush42069 4 жыл бұрын
Woulda been dope to see the new republic soldiers wearing the old senate guard armor style, they looked so cool
@Snooshy
@Snooshy 4 жыл бұрын
These guys were trash, ventress clapped em when she boarded the tranquility 😂 I’ve seen random clones do better than them!!
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 жыл бұрын
Snooshy 16 clones were trained all their life, senate commandos were trained for 4 weeks. Not even army grunts on our earth get that little training.
@Snooshy
@Snooshy 4 жыл бұрын
Darth Knightwing Phoenix lol ya true
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 even stormtroopers had better training I hear they trained for 4 years
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 жыл бұрын
Saeid Radder 🤦🏻‍♂️
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 жыл бұрын
Saeid Radder 🤦🏻‍♂️
@bipolingdaco1607
@bipolingdaco1607 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair nobody can win against characters with plot armor. The senate guard never stood a chance :(
@domino_201
@domino_201 4 жыл бұрын
You can sum up this in one sentence: Senate Guards are the only soldiers that never needed to exist in the Star Wars Universe. Period.
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 4 жыл бұрын
I like blue colours
@TheLeatheryman
@TheLeatheryman 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really dig how these guys look.. the helmet with the crest is what does it. Marvin the Martian would be proud
@Jt-oj8mk
@Jt-oj8mk 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@_tertle3892
@_tertle3892 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@abominationtheguy6790
@abominationtheguy6790 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@geetslys
@geetslys 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@mythichydrated
@mythichydrated 4 жыл бұрын
They were very good at very one thing getting killed and not protecting their targets...
@thomashsiai6250
@thomashsiai6250 Жыл бұрын
The Senate guards we see protecting Ashoka and Lux as they fled Mandalore was probably the best example of them being useful. Their uniform in that episode (which was a combination of the honor guard and the senate commando uniforms) are the best in my opinion. The helmet is probably super light, and the cape could be somewhat helpful.
@alikos88
@alikos88 3 жыл бұрын
US Capitol Police: "We messed up...they took over the senate" Senate Commandos: "First time?"
@Schrodingers_catgirl
@Schrodingers_catgirl 4 жыл бұрын
I think they served more as a deterrent using fear instead of martial prowess, similar to the design of the ATAT walker.
@AAurum-yy7rv
@AAurum-yy7rv Жыл бұрын
I like how the senate guards pauldron actually absorbed a shot in the senate hostage crisis this happened very rarely in the clone wars but it was cool when it did bc it showed the armor of senate guards and clones to be somewhat useful when most times the blasters would rip through just about anything in the films
@DracoWings
@DracoWings 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the "Supreme Chancellor" backstab the Senate Guard to legitimize his goal to organize his very own red guard. After all, he is the one running the show be hind everyone back.
@ninomitchell2039
@ninomitchell2039 4 жыл бұрын
One thing i think they did well was give any star wars themed bowling alley a cool strike/spare animation with bane and sing killing the room of guys
@Ebbsy08
@Ebbsy08 4 жыл бұрын
Who needs senate guards when Palpatine *IS* the SENATE
@danielboatright8887
@danielboatright8887 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair,a big part of the sith grand plan probably involved corrupting the competence of the guard as part of corrupting the senate.
@georgefeser6483
@georgefeser6483 3 жыл бұрын
"Glorified Lampshades" Couldn't put it better myself
@matthewlaflamme9019
@matthewlaflamme9019 4 ай бұрын
-Mace Windu was informed that kidnappers were disguised as senate guards to kidnap the chancellor. -Mace Windu hands the chancellor over to senate guard to keep him safe. 😂
@garsaxon8375
@garsaxon8375 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh the Senate guard was filled soldiers who were too scared to fight on the front lines
@MrTreefoz
@MrTreefoz 3 жыл бұрын
Glorified lampshades, from the perspective of the show, sure. But the Jedi were the heroes of the story, so they had to save the day, which means security forces have to fail. Just the way things go. I'm sure they were better at their job in many circumstances we will just never see.
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