Why Should I Care About Jonjo Shelvey?

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Why should you care about Jonjo Shelvey? There was a time when Shelvey was tipped to be the successor to Steven Gerrard at Liverpool. How times have changed. Or have they?
In this Tifo video, Alex Stewart will try to convince Joe Devine to care about the Newcastle United deep-lying playmaker Jonjo Shelvey.
Five reasons why you should care about Shelvey.
Presented by Joe Devine and Alex Stewart.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:51 Swimming
03:08 England
05:35 He's Better Than You Think
08:38 Integral in Newcastle
10:09 Transitional Player
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@Tomwithnonumbers
@Tomwithnonumbers 2 жыл бұрын
Reasons why Shelvey is interesting: 1) When playing Liverpool with Swansea, he said 'The game isn't about me' and then scored a goal, an own goal and got a red card 2) He is a player on the cusp of being great - someone with half the skills of a world-class player, but also enough flaws to hold him back 3) He is the stupidest intelligent footballer in the game. He's a playmaker who will cut a team open with pinpoint passes, and then immediately two foot someone 4) He killed Harry Potter
@og_praxis17
@og_praxis17 2 жыл бұрын
How is this not top comment, please
@coolfear360
@coolfear360 2 жыл бұрын
Lol is the first one real? My god that’s gold.
@daviesugo7641
@daviesugo7641 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolfear360 he also assisted a goal and made a blunder for the other Liverpool goal. Match ended 2-2. He was literally involved in all goals
@lancinekeita4823
@lancinekeita4823 2 жыл бұрын
this is beautiful
@bri1085
@bri1085 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolfear360 he was the man of the match for both teams interesting watch
@daniel-cc7bn
@daniel-cc7bn 3 жыл бұрын
‘Watching clips of Jonjo Shelvey has made me who I am today’ - Andres Iniesta
@hunterzolomon1303
@hunterzolomon1303 3 жыл бұрын
Lol dont do that bro
@ankh_k
@ankh_k 3 жыл бұрын
He's more Xavi than Iniesta
@rohannaval1621
@rohannaval1621 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankh_k he's better than both combined what u on about?
@joshmccaw2777
@joshmccaw2777 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankh_k I don't think so, what you have failed to consider is Iniesta has a lot less hair
@tommyknockers5492
@tommyknockers5492 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshmccaw2777 i dunno man. i ain't seen his bush.
@philipthomas8928
@philipthomas8928 3 жыл бұрын
Give me 10 sticks and Jonjo Shelvey and I will win you the Champions League -Sir Alex Ferguson
@theflyingdonkeypunch
@theflyingdonkeypunch 3 жыл бұрын
Now i know why Alex shaved his head during the Euros. He was silently protesting Southgate's decision to not include Jonjo in the England squad
@aidanhunter
@aidanhunter 2 жыл бұрын
@Christian Christianson the other guy with joe
@olanrewaju8202
@olanrewaju8202 2 жыл бұрын
@Christian Christianson Joe is guy who has laptop in front of him
@homosapien5156
@homosapien5156 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about Jonjo Shelvey but from seeing him occasionally I think he a midfielder with a bald head and makes some crunching tackles. That is enough to care
@houcemfehri155
@houcemfehri155 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very astute remark.
@jayfurr9083
@jayfurr9083 2 жыл бұрын
Bald head? Strong tackles? A relic of days gone by; a veritable living, breathing museum exhibit.
@bigclout0056
@bigclout0056 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know much about Jonjo Shelvey but from seeing him occasionally I think he’s a dark wizard with a bald head and makes some murderous actions against Muggles. That is enough to care
@jackjude
@jackjude 2 жыл бұрын
He hardly gets near the opposition to make a challenge, on the the very rare occasion he does, it's only via a mis-timed lunge.
@nhlanhlasithole2899
@nhlanhlasithole2899 2 жыл бұрын
Shelvey isn't a tackler
@rohannaval1621
@rohannaval1621 3 жыл бұрын
He has a few movies about himself where he fights this wizard kid called Harry.
@christhomas9221
@christhomas9221 3 жыл бұрын
3:21 love the random momentary increase in volume
@nu-metalfan2654
@nu-metalfan2654 2 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan, Shelvey had a lot of promise, I think it was either the 2011/12 or 2012/13 season he showed a lot of potential, he had a good half a season, was scoring some goals, and was reminding me a bit of Gerrard. The problem Shelvey had/has though was his work ethic, he would go missing at times and drift in and out of games. Brendan Rodgers preferred Henderson to Shelvey because of Henderson’s great work ethic, but Henderson wasn’t as creative as Shelvey was and Shelvey wasn’t as good as Henderson was with the work ethic, but Rodgers preferred the work ethic over creativity. Matt Le Tissier was a big fan of Shelvey and said he has everything in his locker but he needs to unlock that potential. But like I said the stumbling block with Shelvey is his work ethic and drifts in and out of games, if Shelvey had the same amount of work ethic as Henderson has, Shelvey would still be at Liverpool today as the captain lifting up the Premier League title in 2020. Shelvey had great potential, but it was his bad work ethic that stopped him reaching that potential.
@cchooch7152
@cchooch7152 3 жыл бұрын
I think this series needs the addition of Joe's transfer rumours buzzers
@finleysummers9643
@finleysummers9643 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, very much agreed. Those buzzers are absolutely hilarious!
@CJ_Yo_
@CJ_Yo_ 3 жыл бұрын
With "Wow" or "I don't care" etc.
@raghuk6063
@raghuk6063 3 жыл бұрын
it'll be priceless to watch alex get incredibly annoyed at those buzzers
@buckethead133
@buckethead133 Жыл бұрын
@@raghuk6063 no wonder he left.
@ryanbutler4221
@ryanbutler4221 2 жыл бұрын
Jonjo grew up around the corner from me, I remember walking to the shop as a kid and seeing him kick a ball against the wall all day
@odity2076
@odity2076 Жыл бұрын
Did he still look like Voldemort
@nbrown_
@nbrown_ 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this series. Alex smashed this one out of the park.
@mitch7848
@mitch7848 2 жыл бұрын
How?
@buckethead133
@buckethead133 Жыл бұрын
@@mitch7848 shut up
@toonreviewstato2339
@toonreviewstato2339 3 жыл бұрын
For the last two seasons, once we reach 65 minutes, it's like watching Declan Rice with two broken legs shield the back four. The only way he'd be viable is if we play 4-3-3 with Shelvey, Hayden and a strong box-to-box capable of helping with possession play (Midfielder that we don't have) (Last person we had with this physicality was Mo Diame I believe)
@LewisMcDonaldBass
@LewisMcDonaldBass 2 жыл бұрын
This guy in the video is giving him way too much credit
@alexturner9141
@alexturner9141 2 жыл бұрын
once we reach 20 mins sometimes
@jamesreynolds3546
@jamesreynolds3546 2 жыл бұрын
turns out he just needed Joelinton along side him
@toonreviewstato2339
@toonreviewstato2339 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexturner9141 It's scary how close I was! I predicted the 4-3-3 and the need for a destroyer midfielder (we didn't know it'd be Joelinton at the time) Shelvey's rise has coincided with all of the above
@connorllewellyn4382
@connorllewellyn4382 2 жыл бұрын
Shelvey was a joy to watch for swans. He played like steven gerrard with a grit and anger of a young rooney. Really was awesome to watch
@swagatosarkar9664
@swagatosarkar9664 3 жыл бұрын
Alex: "He is Charlton's youngest ever player" Joe: "Sure! Now we taking..." Me: wait what
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Also Joe: "Say more things to make me care" 😅
@syariqueizzan6292
@syariqueizzan6292 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but the “but if Thiago played for Newcastle…” had me rolling
@Daleyblog
@Daleyblog 3 жыл бұрын
I remember him being with us at Blackpool on loan for sixth months in 2011 and he was absolutely unbelievable. The highlight probably being a 40 yard free kick in a 4-1 win again Burnley, I was convinced he’d lead us to 2012 euros glory.
@CliffTooth
@CliffTooth 2 жыл бұрын
surely if Shelvey won the euros with Blackpool he would have been a legend forever! (I'm kidding, I got what you meant)
@KisMiska10
@KisMiska10 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when he was at Liverpool and got sent off against Man Utd. He lost his rag (no pun intended) and started pointing and shouting at Sir Alex Ferguson. Sir Alex just laughed at him.
@davrothelegend
@davrothelegend 3 жыл бұрын
FM 2012 shelvey was a must buy. I think this series would benefit from something like a thesis statement that the analyst can argue for. eg. shelvey would be a world beater if he were Italian 10 years ago.
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, agreed. It's a little woolly at the moment. As to your thesis statement, no he wouldn't be. He's good, but he's not Pirlo and he's not Totti. He would be a good Italian midfielder, perhaps good enough to get the odd cap for Italy, but no more than that.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t see him getting anywhere near the Italian midfield myself
@davrothelegend
@davrothelegend 3 жыл бұрын
@@KindredBrujah I mean for an Italian domestic team. And the thesis statement would obviously be a bit controversial. Yer know, clickbait 'n all that.
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah 3 жыл бұрын
@@davrothelegend Yeah, I agree with the idea wholeheartedly. :)
@artysin6331
@artysin6331 3 жыл бұрын
Great that Alex brought out Grace Roberton's newsletter, the retrospective on England has been excellent.
@lkindness
@lkindness 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can find this?
@tysonwilkins2537
@tysonwilkins2537 3 жыл бұрын
@@lkindness @GraceOnFootball on twitter, she has a link to her substack newsletter there
@lkindness
@lkindness 3 жыл бұрын
@@tysonwilkins2537 cheers bro
@nk_17
@nk_17 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember that City vs Newcastle match where Shelvey and KDB scored INCREDIBLE goals
@Siddy_69
@Siddy_69 3 жыл бұрын
I always buy Jonjo Shelvey on fifa regardless if I am playing with Barcelona or with Charlton Athletic
@blackkeiron
@blackkeiron 3 жыл бұрын
Hes a top talent, if you shine his bald head just right he grows to 91 overall
@jayilham6548
@jayilham6548 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackkeiron The secret to that is that theres a spot on the back of his head that people tend to overlook
@Rybo4
@Rybo4 3 жыл бұрын
@BK SHELVEY
@homosapien5156
@homosapien5156 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. The very interesting pieces of information like the the London expansion plan were incredible. Thank you Alex.
@jameswright21
@jameswright21 3 жыл бұрын
Went about it all wrong, with facts and stats. You gotta know your audience. This is how I would have done it. 1- Kind of looks like an angry penguin. (Photoshopped pic) 2- When he gets the ball stuck in his feet he kind of waddles like he had an egg. 3- The swimming thing being a transition from penguin to the rest of the analysis.
@elixirix
@elixirix 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a newcastle fan and I really rate him. his passing is outstanding, and even played sweeper a few times last season, retro position. and no mention of his alopecia either, which must have affected him a lot.
@RaseYourProbs
@RaseYourProbs 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Newcastle fan too, and while I do rate him, I do not feel he is good for Newcastle. He is best suited to a team who dominates possession. He would look unplayable at the top 6 teams, because he'd have more time on the ball, more possession. His flaws as a footballer, his work rate and his poor tackling won't be exposed as much.
@arkabasak5241
@arkabasak5241 3 жыл бұрын
"in the same way that football left Jonjo Shelvey behind, I might do too" xD
@runrafarunthebestintheworld
@runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 жыл бұрын
"Say more things to make me care" hahaha 😅
@keyserni
@keyserni 2 жыл бұрын
Adidas did a fan question session with StevenG and I remember someone asked him "Steve, does JonJo Shelvey take up all the car park at Melwood when he arrives in his Space Ship?".
@BJ9992
@BJ9992 3 жыл бұрын
Alex always with the high quality insight, wish we got more of him!
@callum2474
@callum2474 3 жыл бұрын
This whole video is hilarious! Great work. Dream team would have Shelvey and Pukki in it!!
@darkshines800
@darkshines800 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe that Shelvey and Spearing were brought through together at Liverpool with the idea that they'd be the English replacements for Alonso and Mascherano. Weirdly it shows how highly they were thought of at the time, and how bad Liverpool's management were at the time. He's a decent player though, and deserves to be thought of as one of the best English Registas of his generation, as obsolete as that might be...
@swungsw5106
@swungsw5106 3 жыл бұрын
Great series. Seb watch those stock music levels in the edit!
@RiseandFireBill
@RiseandFireBill 2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget Men in Blazers calling Jonjo Shelvey, "Hallitosis, personified"
@hughmoore963
@hughmoore963 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Grace get a mention here, would love to see her collaborate with the channel in the future! (Her newsletter alex mentions is v v v good btw)
@harperstephens2640
@harperstephens2640 2 жыл бұрын
grace is absolute class
@tomgorman7457
@tomgorman7457 3 жыл бұрын
i enjoy watching alex slowly start to see how this series works
@MsiziNkosi22
@MsiziNkosi22 3 жыл бұрын
Ah a Grace Robertson shoutout, more Alex on the show please!
@Nakuppi
@Nakuppi 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching him played for Swansea
@harrymcmullen2227
@harrymcmullen2227 3 жыл бұрын
Alex: he has an incredibly accurate range of passing, and looks to spread the ball around. Joe: so you’re saying he delivers the mail up to the front Alex: … sure
@peteredeoghon6457
@peteredeoghon6457 3 жыл бұрын
Football hipster senses activating
@MrRandomDude71
@MrRandomDude71 2 жыл бұрын
Hope that Alex knows that he is great, and so interesting to listen to, even if Joe is a bit harsh on him sometimes
@rory4605
@rory4605 2 жыл бұрын
These are fascinating videos. I'm loving all the new series on IRL.
@felixbache5369
@felixbache5369 3 жыл бұрын
"You'll have a good time bu not a long time" That's always been my personal slogan
@Rosemitchell17
@Rosemitchell17 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE this series concept!
@sufiyan.9535
@sufiyan.9535 3 жыл бұрын
The Dark Lord shall return. 🐍
@SA-fl1ed
@SA-fl1ed 3 жыл бұрын
Really like this series can’t wait for the next one
@SiccazHD
@SiccazHD 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best long passers in Europe, looks like Howe will use him a bit better than Bruce did.
@ryanlucey6642
@ryanlucey6642 2 жыл бұрын
Great work lads, how does one get a hold of that Tifo t-shirt?
@donalmurphy100
@donalmurphy100 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. Well done guys
@justianlouis753
@justianlouis753 2 жыл бұрын
Well at least he got me to type in Jonjo Shelvey in my KZbin search afterwards. Good job pal!
@jamesleonard90
@jamesleonard90 3 жыл бұрын
The addition of Alex’s notes in the intro is nice
@wesdryden2086
@wesdryden2086 2 жыл бұрын
My dads mate did his bedroom and kitchen and said his house is a shithole and his bedroom was covered in beer bottles/cans in the middle of the day in the middle of the week.
@zzzzzz4110
@zzzzzz4110 7 ай бұрын
That's mental
@MashedIrony
@MashedIrony 2 жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly interesting, thank you guys for some excellent insight!
@johnnyhudson9804
@johnnyhudson9804 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe that if Jonjo Shelvey was born anywhere but England he would've wound up as a world class player in Italy or Spain by now. Players like Jonjo make me sad that English footballers never go abroad.
@tomgorman7457
@tomgorman7457 3 жыл бұрын
you can add this to the list of thing i didnt expect at all in any way shape or form
@Leigh_Bailey
@Leigh_Bailey 2 жыл бұрын
Joe had me cracking up in this one. Love it!
@legoclone4658ALT
@legoclone4658ALT 2 жыл бұрын
Can we find these TIFO IRLs on Spotify? Want to listen to them on my commute!
@anon1534
@anon1534 3 жыл бұрын
He who must not be named
@mangalam4891
@mangalam4891 3 жыл бұрын
Ayee Alex long time no see
@CJ_Yo_
@CJ_Yo_ 3 жыл бұрын
If Alex used some of the information from Atheltico Mince on Shelvey, I'm sure Joe would show more interest😂
@mrcatcake1264
@mrcatcake1264 3 жыл бұрын
So does Alex think there’s still a place for Jonjo skill set at international level?
@cemacem4102
@cemacem4102 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@jkenmiller
@jkenmiller Жыл бұрын
The stats don't lie, we are a better team with him in the team than without, underrated player with a beautiful right foot
@azfar333
@azfar333 3 жыл бұрын
Alex has convinced me to sign Jonjo Shelvey... for Crystal Palace... on FIFA 21 Career Mode. I wouldn’t mind having Alex as my Sporting Director for the club now.
@andr8451
@andr8451 2 жыл бұрын
3:24 audio engineer fell asleep on the knob haha
@raprice79
@raprice79 3 жыл бұрын
This video didn't make me care about Jonjo Shelvey. But it did give me a better understanding of why I don't care about him, which I appreciate.
@bobbym9160
@bobbym9160 3 жыл бұрын
Don't think he's that divisive amongst the Newcastle fans. We're all pretty much decided that he's not good enough (to be an automatic starter at least).
@CJ_Yo_
@CJ_Yo_ 3 жыл бұрын
As a Swansea fan, Jonjo Shelvey was everything you love and hate as a fan. He'd score wonderful goals (Vs Villa, Vs Fulham), hit incredible long passes from deep to bypass a press & played on the edge so in derby matches or games with tension you'd love the fight and desire he showed to win the ball. However, he sometimes played on the edge too much (e.g. Vs Liverpool at home in a 2-2 draw when he had a hand in every goal), he seemed to ruffle feathers in the squad behind the scenes (press rumours) and sometimes it looked like he'd switch off or not be in the game at all and he couldn't snap back into it like certain players can.
@Tinywars
@Tinywars 2 жыл бұрын
Jonjo Shelvey is great as a deep lying playmaker. The only issue I've had with him is his commitment.
@iceytoa1
@iceytoa1 2 жыл бұрын
Was the music jumping up while he was talking about him being capped at Swansea a joke or accident? Had to listen a few times to hear him :(
@alexpatterson7811
@alexpatterson7811 3 жыл бұрын
Is Alex’s shirt a sign of incoming Tifo merch?
@paymonhashemi6892
@paymonhashemi6892 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. I learned a lot.
@colingriffiths221
@colingriffiths221 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Alex has hacked my brain. For years I have been Chairman of the "Pro Shelvey Group". Delighted there are more of us. For me, Shelvey would be in my England side everytime.
@skusami2548
@skusami2548 3 жыл бұрын
Is it because you're bald
@AM-xg4vl
@AM-xg4vl 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love jonjo Shelvey❤️. people underestimate him so much!!
@sebastianjuul6276
@sebastianjuul6276 3 жыл бұрын
please do more of this
@pipbeale
@pipbeale 2 жыл бұрын
Do more of these. Love this. The more controversial the better. Thanks.
@moisesfernando2516
@moisesfernando2516 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite Tifo IRL video 😂😂😂😂 funny af
@Tdawgmcginty
@Tdawgmcginty 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching Shelvey. He’s got wonderful vision and always asks for the ball. I think he’s a useful mid table player.
@THENAGES
@THENAGES 2 жыл бұрын
Why should I care about this channel 😂 I already subscribed 😂😂
@Curtisand15
@Curtisand15 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting Video: Can Alex talk about Jonjo if he was coached by a manager like Bielsa. If Bielsa was coaching jonjo would he move him to center back? Would he just sell him? Really enjoyed the video
@elvernaranjo1773
@elvernaranjo1773 3 жыл бұрын
Goals. Fun? Loved that intro
@mattkemper8485
@mattkemper8485 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the background music suddenly get so loud around 3:20
@sonishkumar7327
@sonishkumar7327 3 жыл бұрын
keep em coming
@alfmartin8064
@alfmartin8064 2 жыл бұрын
Why did i find the bit when he said hes its what swimming looks like
@rolandcooke
@rolandcooke 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Care-O-Meter...but it maybe needs some additional lower gears... :D
@jamesharris5707
@jamesharris5707 3 жыл бұрын
Jonjo Shelvey keeps the flame alive for people who remember Yul Brynner
@esel5148
@esel5148 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Grace Robertson shout out ♥️
@abelstretford3097
@abelstretford3097 2 жыл бұрын
Shelvey can have games where he’s amazing. He has an amazing passing ability but he can go missing and lazy and if he’s not on his game he’s invisible. Sadly for us and him he’s going missing loads over last season. Seems uninterested and we should sell him to be honest he’s totally uninterested
@FlatsTheFlounder23
@FlatsTheFlounder23 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be really sad to see him go. One of my favourite players to watch on his day. Sometimes he can go missing but I think his lack of defensive effort is a bit exaggerated to be honest. Almost definitely biased cuz Ive loved watching him play for years.
@dddgtsd
@dddgtsd 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on my namesake. If he isn't bossing the midfield battle within the first 20 mins he fades out, it's quite an immature trait. He has phases where he knuckles down and gets a bit of consistency. No doubt with better players around him he'd look better but he was a step back after Cabaya, Shelvey lacks mobility but hopefully Willock will bring that like he did last season.
@bri1085
@bri1085 2 жыл бұрын
Has all the makings of an all time great, but his attitude holds him back. Very talented.
@patrickdaitya7084
@patrickdaitya7084 3 жыл бұрын
I dont like this idea that Italian midfielders have more time on the ball. iirc, the premier league and serie are are similar for passes per defensive action
@gal708
@gal708 3 жыл бұрын
They gotta make one of these about Xhaka.
@athayphom3551
@athayphom3551 3 жыл бұрын
Shelvey is better than what most people think. This guy who is listening must be a kid who has started watching football only few years. Shelvey is a talent slowly fading away.
@sld1776
@sld1776 3 жыл бұрын
The huge shining noggin for once. Your eyes are drawn to it, then the brightness forces you to look away.
@TheGroundHopper
@TheGroundHopper 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't tammy Abraham get an England cap while playing for swansea?
@LukeBraithwaite
@LukeBraithwaite 3 жыл бұрын
What’s with the volume at 3:34
@dangerchef8118
@dangerchef8118 2 жыл бұрын
Jonjo's stand allows him to play pin-point precise long-range passes, but he must touch an opponent with both his feet simultaneously within 60 seconds of said pass, or he will lose more hair from his body.
@gggiii1915
@gggiii1915 2 жыл бұрын
When will be next episode?
@thedislikebutton163
@thedislikebutton163 3 жыл бұрын
Man City still in fear. They're trying to sign Harry so desperately
@AdA-kg3fn
@AdA-kg3fn 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they’ve ever seen jonjo play live, even his quarterback passes are so pedestrian, telegraphed and slow
@peterpaul176
@peterpaul176 2 жыл бұрын
When hearing the commentary I always thought his name was spelled John Joshelvy
@fhjunior6183
@fhjunior6183 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good vid
@Mizzy873
@Mizzy873 3 жыл бұрын
6:39 props to Alderweirald
@franriding6473
@franriding6473 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the pirlo reference. I turned it off. Do they mention "quarterback"
@maxdiego1851
@maxdiego1851 2 жыл бұрын
Jonjo is one of the best English midfielders of his time. I will die on this hill. He is a quality player and the lazy accusation is pathetic! Looking at this after Bruce has left and how he’s played under Howe is also really interesting. Also, it’s funny how people praise JWP who is a poor man’s Jonjo but slack off Jonjo
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