From early on in my guitar and amp playing, I quickly realised the different sounds produced by different speakers, and how much a high quality speaker can make a difference in tone. Only very recently did I learn how different cabs can affect the sound so much. Johan, your videos are so informative, thank you! Also, your neighbours must be very forgiving!
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Alastair Tilley Thanks man, yeah the cab and he speaker is the acoustical instrument.
@PATRICKJMT18 жыл бұрын
Three 4x12's in the room, that's just fantastic!
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
:-) a bit bulky I have been told here at home though :-)
@simonspeaker5 жыл бұрын
at the back its a 4x15
@null82769 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favourite channel on youtube... and just discovered it a while ago! Great stuff, it's all about that Marshall and Gibo tone! Love your work, Johan! Keep it up!
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to hear that! :-) Cheers Johan
@Stvk7309 жыл бұрын
You dont seem to run out of great ideas for vids, thanks for another awesome vid. Im suprised that not every single Marshall loving guitarist is subscribed to your channel, you deserve way more views!!!
@patrickrosington11744 жыл бұрын
Right it blows my mind hes only got around 70k subs he should have millions. No other gear channel comes close
@johngerson73359 жыл бұрын
Great demo Johan. Very interesting to hear that there's that much difference. Thanks for the post.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@smiley5oh7 жыл бұрын
this my friends, is why you get a stack
@vikingmike81398 жыл бұрын
You 'should' have one of each. That''s what I told my ol' lady, and she keeps asking why I have five cabinets now. "Because dear, they sound so very much different from one another, and I really 'NEED' them for the 'proper' application. So go get yourself ready and I'll take you out for dinner!" Usually after dinner out, she doesn't ask questions about the amount of gear stacking up. Trust me, NEVER EVER ask why 'she' has so many clothes or shoes etc. That's the 'cardinal sin' of the century for you, and you just might have to give up some gear and buy her some clothes AND dinner.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Viking Mike hahaha words of wisdom
@jcoulter438 жыл бұрын
That's why I have 17 guitars and counting (that's what I've told my wife, but she's starting to doubt my wisdom....) Johan, I believe we need to bestow a new title on you, "Professor of Tone, Dr. of Marshall-ology." Love, love, love your videos! They are so educational and so much fun to listen to at the same time. Now, back to shopping for that next guitar or amp...... ;-)
@dodjiegarcia23207 жыл бұрын
So the wife said "You can hear the difference in tone of 5 different cabs but you cannot hear me calling you from the kitchen?" old joke
@thrasher20946 жыл бұрын
Viking Mike Never give up gear unless it's going to make room for new gear
@TempoDrift14805 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wouldn't even entertain the thought of having a woman in my home besides my daughter and the sister of our set of orange cats.
@jommonox9 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff! I never thought there would be such a huge difference! I have the slanted 1960AV and the sound is just excellent!
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
+Notjo King Thanks! Yeah it has a great influence indeed
@benmurray10199 жыл бұрын
personally prefer the slant cabs, sound less harsh and a tad more musical to my ears , cheers for another great video johan!
@espectradiego59 жыл бұрын
First, thanks so much for the effort. This topic has haunted me for years now and your research is really informative. Now I can reintegrate myself to the society as a normal human being...
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend, that's good to hear. :-) I'm still waiting for my reintegration ;-)
@kellyjackson78897 жыл бұрын
NEVAR!
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio Жыл бұрын
I remember watching another yourtuber mention the same thing, can't remember who for the life of me... but they mentioned that with the angled cab the waves coming back at the speaker is different than a straight cab so that, in turn, produces a different tone. I personally always prefered straight cab's but this is always cool info! Thx Johan!
@JohanSegeborn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey!
@EdwardKowalski6 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats doing it, thanks!' Tilting part of the baffle does change the internal volume and reflection and cancellation inside the cab, remembering that paper cones are transparent to lower freqs. They will pass through the cone essentially unimpeded. What is happening outside the cabinet changes dramatically too. Any change of the distance between the cones will result in a different spread of comb filtering. Physics says that a perfect audio speaker is a point source that can generate all frequencies equally. Not a thing we can make yet. Regardless satisfying guitar tone depends on pleasing distortion, even for "clean"sounds. I suggest if one wanted to hear what the difference in cabinet shape and volume is it would be better to adjust the back panel and thus negate the outside the box effects. Or not. ;)
@Trainwreckontario9 жыл бұрын
The difference is astonishing and profound. Very interesting J.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@frankandrews32423 жыл бұрын
Thank you Johan, you're a gentleman and a scholar.
@dimitarneshev9182 Жыл бұрын
Slant gives more open sound . Thank you , Johan !
@treyglaze34 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. And your neighbors are either very patient or on vacation!
@kinoglaz7777 жыл бұрын
Super! Finally a good demo about cabinets. Thanks a lot
@arrogantowl72357 жыл бұрын
I was really expecting an explanation of how the mids of the slant obscure the bass. Love your explanations Johan.
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+ArrogantOwl Thanks :-)
@Dagger_3237 жыл бұрын
Prefer straight cabs just from hearing the comparison in this video. I can see now why Paul Kossoff only used straight cabs also. He claimed they had more girth and a fuller rounder tone, which I definitely hear here.
@Alexhangman Жыл бұрын
Yes, sir.
@ipguyman1087 жыл бұрын
In the 80's I recieved many compliments on my sound. I used a bi-amp/bi-cab sound - Marshall head with "slant cab" and a ampeg head, separate reverb tank into a marshall "flat cab". It was incredible. (reverb was barely on and I used a stereo boss DD-2 straight to the slant and delay to flat)
@alandeniston92299 жыл бұрын
Slant Cab sounds better to my ears. I was surprised at the difference.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
+Alan Deniston Thanks Alan, me too to be honest. cheers Johan
@MaxCROZON8 жыл бұрын
Less compressed. So better (to my ears), you're both right!
@deusherbert-noel24247 жыл бұрын
Max Crozon The slant cab is more compressed to my ears. BTW it's slightly smaller size would result in less headroom, which is why the midrange is more focused. The straight cab may seem more compressed because it's louder, but I prefer the slant cab anyways.
@THUNDERWORX7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I would never have guessed such a different sound. I had always imagined the slant was to disperse the sound more broadly to an audience, but never would have imagined such a difference with close mic. Thanks for posting. I love Marshall 412 cabs, but I have noticed mine, even the slant cabs are really directional when not using mics. I always realize the guy in the fourth row at the end of the isle (the one my cab is aimed at) is getting more than his share of sound. LOL>..... Hopefully a guitar enthusiast. Thanks for posting Johan, I always learn from your vids.
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+THUNDERWORX Thanks man, glad to hear it
@TheAntman12659 жыл бұрын
Straight cab all the way!
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Bluescobra8 жыл бұрын
Talking about sound waves, I've seen some interesting open back designs on 4x12 cabs. Maybe you should also consider making a comparison. Usually the cut in the back is around the 2 lower speakers, this way the back of the cabinet stays in contact at the top, to avoid noise cancellation issues. Interesting video, thank you !
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Bluescobra Thanks, that's a good idea. I will definetly do that
@RichInternationalAir2 жыл бұрын
Johan, this was an excellent vid! I looked up slant vs straight cabs (because I've seen stacks with straight/slant, and straight/straight), and wondered if the difference could matter. I definitely hear the difference, thanks for making this video. 🎸 🎛️🔊🔊
@mitchellferre16529 жыл бұрын
I tried to pick a favorite cab. It's no use. I will buy both ! Thanks Johan ! : )
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
They complement each other very well. Cheers man!
@clairecampbell83284 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe just how different they sound! I can totally see what you mean about the mids taking over! I definitely need to switch up for a straight!!!!
@TheAxe4Ever5 жыл бұрын
Just something worth noting. On my new EVH 4x12 cabinet, it is a straight cab design....sort of. The whole baffle where the speakers mount is slightly leaned upward. So going by Johan’s illustrations on how the sound waves hit the back of the cabinet, the design of my cabinet makes the sound waves not hit the back of the cab square like in a straight cabinet. It appears it would almost hit the back like a slant cabs top speakers. Just not at as extreme of a degree. So it seems they did this to get the best of both a straight and slant cab. Cool idea.
@lowqualityguitarvideos8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if different slant cabs with different dimensions would have slightly different frequency damping, based on how far the sound waves are traveling before they interfere with the other speakers.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Scott Rawdon That would be interesting topic for a new video. I guess they would. Cheers Johan
@nickbenjamin65278 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned but the kink in the front baffle of the slant cabinet will probably make that area much stiffer than the flat one piece front baffle of the non slant cab. This will hold the speakers more firmly.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Nick Benjamin I don't know if more stiffness is lost by having a 2-piece baffle?
@nickbenjamin65278 жыл бұрын
Johan Segeborn If the joint is properly put together then the angle should make the baffle stiffer than a flat one.....if! This method of stiffening is used in engineering all the time and Italian mandolin soundboards are made stiffer by having a kink but it does depend on a good joint!! Try flexing the middle of the two front baffles to see!
@EspeciallyCrunchy Жыл бұрын
I say slant is the "better" one overall, especially when you're considering the audience's ears and where they're probably standing. The way the speakers mesh because the sound goes in two different directions makes the difference. It's more "husky" and guitar-y (lack of a better word?). If you're standing directly in front of a slant cab--facing it--it's not immediately pleasant like straight cabs. They lack the same deep low-end and are really mid forward and thin. However, once you step back from it or sit down a few feet away (as though you're in the audience), you get a true feeling for the sound slants make. Like I said, it's huskier. I learned this about my Soldano slant 412. I originally hated how it sounded in person and realized that it's the nature of slant cabs to be super middy like that if you're standing up really close to it. You gotta move back on slants to really hear them.
@octaviafuzzguy7 жыл бұрын
Slant all the way. Imagine being this guys neighbor? Love all your Marshall vids!
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+octaviafuzzguy Thanks man ;-)
@davidluke3339 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, as usual Johan!
@juhalehtonen9000Ай бұрын
Love the way you play old kiss riffs but only almost😀
@howardstanton74219 жыл бұрын
Question is when you buy your first Marshal Cabinet, should you buy the slant or the straight first then decide to build it up?
@sebastionhawk55655 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL explanation! I have an old sonic 4X12 celestion, and, i HAVE noticed that low end can be muddied by middle, so, i usually turn my middle down to use for heavy metal tones; ultimate would be to have 3 different 2 X 12 cabs, one straight in the middle for some bass punch, and, one slant on both sides for that full sound effect...
@Yohahn9 жыл бұрын
Skillnaden påverkas ju förutom reflektionerna inne i lådan även på hur väl inspelad högtalaren är och tydligen enligt Laney vilket material man har på lådan som grillcloth eller metall galler.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Det stämmer, det är väldigt svårt att jämföra två parametrar när det är så mycket annat som jan variera
@boboutelama57487 жыл бұрын
Would it not be very easy to break the reflections in the cab with, in the same time, stabilzing the whole cab back section (I speak about newer models ? I speak about glueing two diffractor rods on the inside of the cabinet's back. Stabilizing the back and breaking the straight waves. The only problem I could see would come from the Thiele factor ; but there should be more than enough m3 to insure good sound results.
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+Bob Outélama That's an interesting idea. I'm gonna try that. Cheers Johan
@altratronic8 жыл бұрын
Love the old Kiss licks.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+HellBent Cheers! :-)
@brianzimmerman47106 жыл бұрын
The straight cabs sound more bright and punchy whereas the angled sounds dull and muddy.
@Montreal_Audio_Systems11 ай бұрын
It's actually the opposite
@realcoyotekings6 жыл бұрын
Same speakers in all the cabs?
@jaysjaysgarden3987 жыл бұрын
I would love to have the test done with A tall straight cab i.e Hendrix VS the Normal size Straight cab Can't imagine would the differences would be.
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+Jimi Hendrixxx Hi, I use both those types in this clip kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIi4h6OrodZkiqc
@jaysjaysgarden3987 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@nigel9003 жыл бұрын
From my experience with Marshall slant vs straight, was that the straight sounded “looser” with a better balanced bass. Angle cabs, to my ears, have a bit more edgy and pronounced mid range. Great video!
@qua77712 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. I think it's because the angled cab has a more rigid baffle. The angle bend, plus the back bone that the straight cab doesn't have.
@JoseSanchez-br5kk8 жыл бұрын
With celestion, the problem is they don't sound the same, sometime a lot ! Try same mic position on different speakers and you will see ! So to do it right, you should use always the same speaker and place it in both cabs ! Can go crazy but that what I do !
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Sanchez Yeah, indeed for an exhaustive test that's whats required, but I have Trieste compensate for that by using 2 cabs of each here to identify general tendencies. And I think the A and B cabs here correlate
@JoseSanchez-br5kk8 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong, your video shows perfectly the difference !
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Sanchez Thanks man :-)
@100chuckjones9 жыл бұрын
nice comparison Johan. loved the video man.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, Cheers!
@brennendehexe7934 Жыл бұрын
This guy blew all his money on his cab collection and then saved money on the mic stand! Balancing it on some old books... 😂 dude the mic positioning is so crucial! Anyway. Love your videos. Good stuff
@briandietrich13737 жыл бұрын
I liked the sound of the slant cab, which is different than what everyone always told me...
@edvardweiss65896 жыл бұрын
0:52 : one of the best tones I've ever heard coming out of a cab.
@JohanSegeborn6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad to hear that!
@edvardweiss65896 жыл бұрын
I just love definition in the high frequencies, there's a lot of people that just hate it, calling it fizzy… etc, but i'm crazy about it I can't help that ! It sounds a bit like if you had mixed DI distorted signal with the miced cabinet together to get some kind of full range tone. Those old greenbacks are gold.
@one1sol5 жыл бұрын
First, keep up the great work Johann. Secondly, this is like picking your favorite photo of Marilyn Monroe, there is no loser. Personally, I’ve found a relatively diy solution to the dilemma of slant vs straight. I raise my 1960B off the ground about 18” with a small crate or platform. This allows a broader spread from the lower speakers before the sound bounces off the floor and adds a bit of clarity to the deep rich sound of that cubic cab. To top things off, I added a single “tilt a speaker” to the top speaker, most center to the audience. This provides me with a “monitor” speaker to hear my tone above my knees and still have 3 speakers forming a death day of beautiful SG thunder upon the audience. I wonder how a straight 2x12 cab, with a slanted 2x12 on top might sound. Would this provide that gorgeous full stack blend, in a smaller compact setup?
@san5a895 жыл бұрын
Jeff Beck in the Truth era used two slant speakers for his Marshall. Nice sound and nice esthetic
@rocker86924 ай бұрын
Do you know how high you turned up those Marshalls?I thought those hot plate attenuators robbed tone,but those sound good.
@tompilompa19 жыл бұрын
Det var en mycket bra jämförelse. Just hur du spelade gjorde det tydligt, mvh Thomas.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Tackar!
@1999C29963 жыл бұрын
Jim Marshall said specifically that the slanted cab was 100% for looks.
@jandeman52598 жыл бұрын
isnt it that by that slant, a little bit of phasing accures witch results in a more midish tone?
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+jan de man yeah phase cancellation working in our favor for a change ;-)
@e.tienne66009 жыл бұрын
Now I know why I need both!😅 thanks!
@ckdpraha Жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I never played the mountain in my living room, only at a gig
@chrisstrupp57377 жыл бұрын
if you use the slant cabs with extended range guitars like the prs baritone they sound interesting
@Whitefox-pc7lp7 жыл бұрын
Why do they not separate each speaker in guitar cabs so that the rear wave doesn't interfer with one another?
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+Whitefox2298 Cost is one reason, but also smaller boxes sounds differently than bigger ones. Cheers
@fullclipaudio6 жыл бұрын
Greetings, If speakers were so amazingly perfect then we'd just suspend them in the air on springs. We don't do that because a speaker without a box sounds absolutely terrible. Try it if you do not believe me. With that said, the 4 speakers are very much meant to interact with one another. First, there are 4 speakers because it isn't really possible to put a 21" speaker in the cabinet and call it good. The 4 speakers provide the necessary surface area to provide low end even though the cabinet is sealed and not ported. That the cabinet is sealed means that the box has a natural dampening (compression) in that anything that really wants to move that speaker is going to meet some resistance from that chamber. Finally, to produce low end you need a big box. That is the reason a cello is bigger than a violin and a stand up bass is bigger than a cello. If you want low end then you must have a big spacious box. Not only that, I want the entire cabinet to vibrate with the fundamental frequency somewhere near my low E so that when I get on it the entire room shakes with my box. Oh yeah, those reflections inside the box are what make the guitar sound like a living vibrating instrument and not some lame keyboard.
@josephmonaco45035 жыл бұрын
Hey Johan, You can't do a good demo because you are micing the same 12" speaker on all of them in the same place. You would have to set up a mic about 12 inches higher than the Marshall logo on the cab and put the mic at least 6-8 foot away from the cabs. That way you would be able to tell from an audience perspective on how much is gained or lost from a straight or slant cabinet. You know what I mean? We already know that if you only use an angled 4x12 cab and you stand in front of it while you play your guitar you will hear the sound easier because it is working similar to a monitor, but if you use a 4x12 cab on stage , you might not hear it as well because all of the speakers are facing forward. I'd like to hear a demo from you set up the way I mentioned it in the 2nd sentence. That way we all would get a really good idea how much sound is lost or gained by angled vs straight. I personally like the Straight cab myself. Whether I'm sitting or standing.
@kekyko99515 жыл бұрын
Of course!! I just bought a 1960ax slant cab with greenbacks.... And like the straight cab sound in this demo...........
@robomalo5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Robinson-Newell I just bought a 1960bx. Keep trying to decide if I should swap for an ax!
@VictoryGuitarShop6 жыл бұрын
Never realized there was that much difference. I am about to order two new cabs and was going to go with the A's but after hearing how much fatter and sparkly the B's sound I may go with them.
@dantramble57669 жыл бұрын
Man. Your videos are the best!!! I love the tone. Tell me. For leads do you run the mids and bass at 12:00 and the treble full?? Fantastic old marshals and wicked pulsonics. Hard combo to beat. Regards. Dan
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, I usually go with 0 Bass, 10 mid treble and prescence and 8 volume, but sometimes I may need to back off on the treble and prescence to get ok definition. This very bright sound needs basketweave grill cloth to filter out some highs. Cheers
@JoseSanchez-br5kk8 жыл бұрын
I build cabs: the main point is inside volume that are not equal, the slanted as less volume and so bass responce is shifted up a bit. That's why metal player like Mesa Oversized: more volume, lower bass responce, to much may lead to floppy bass.The other point is that speaker cone is transparent to sound reflected inside, but this is another story and one of my secrect to make my cabs sound huge.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Sanchez That's interesting so you mean the volume is the dominant parameter here and not the angle of the speakers? Cheers Johan
@JoseSanchez-br5kk8 жыл бұрын
If you place your mic in the upper speakers of the slanted cab then in the lower one, you will notice less mids in up position, so yes the angle is important but less than the volume in this case.
@RocknJazzer5 жыл бұрын
speaker cones are not transparent to reflected sound at all, you dont understand how speaker cabinets work
@christianmarchan65777 жыл бұрын
pretty good video.. love marshalls and les pauls
@JohanSegeborn7 жыл бұрын
+Christian Marchan Thanks Christian!
@JacknCocaine9 жыл бұрын
Great work as always, Johan. Which one do you personally prefere - slant or straight? Is there a remarcable diferrence in order to hear the cab when used as halfstack standing on the ground - I mean does the angled speakers make that much difference when standing in front of the cab?
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I prefer slant for solos and straight for rhythms. In a small rehersal space a slant cab is preferable to hear yourself without killing the rest of the guys ;-)
@steamingheartbeat8 жыл бұрын
A greeeeaaaat difference. Slant wins by far!!!
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Uther Pendragon Thanks!
@braescanlon18298 жыл бұрын
Which one do you prefer? I play a lot of heavy rock/metal and I prefer the straight.
@Ska916Jedi7 жыл бұрын
Do you know what is recommended in the back where to plug in a Mesa Triple Rectifier head and where to have the switch on the cab positioned? I cant seem to find anything about the inputs and such. Thank you
@kellyjackson78897 жыл бұрын
but i bet u experimented with slant when you were younger
@VictoryGuitarShop6 жыл бұрын
Here is your quote: "To my ears slant cabs have more mids, less highs and lows, less attack and is easier to play."What do you mean "Easier to play"?. Which cab do you prefer? Thanks VP
@levijessegonzalez36294 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video between a small 1960 cab vs a "Vintage" bigger cab?
@Donnie_Thornberry3 жыл бұрын
Is that a DiMarzio Super Distortion bridge pickup? Sounds great.
@robertnorton925 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how Yes got the guitar tone on Owner of a Lonely Heart... Not having researched it, perhaps it has something to do with the amplifier type... That could be probable... Thoughts?
@tylerstains8 жыл бұрын
why do they sound different? just because of how the sound waves are bouncing around inside the cab?
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+tyler stains yeah primarily, and also the difference in volume
@RVevolution9 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I've had different results with my old cabs. I used to have Mills Acoustics Afterburner 4x12, Orange ppc412 both straight front and still have my old oversized peavy angled front 4x12. Tried exact same speakers in each cab, same wire etc. I did how ever scoop most of mids out, dialed in for more lower mid eq and treble is on max as I use a very dark V1 Preamp tube and use .47 tone cap. My results were angled cab sounder bigger with much larger soundstage, more alive, cut thru mix better, louder and more high end and only slightly less very low frequency bass. Though the angled cab kinda dwarfs even oversized cabs in some regards to the point I had to use it as the base of a full stack instead of the top because it was too big. Maybe that had bigger effect vs smaller standard marshall cabs.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it certainly depends on what the in signal is. And the woods/grillcloths/dimensions of your three brands of cabs are big factors as well. Cheers Johan
@musiccer7446 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but what equipment did you use here to play with such an credible tone at low volumes. You’re not even wearing your headphones. I’d really like to know because I am thinking about getting an attunator and this video is what I’m going for soundwise
@randolphcarlisle29768 ай бұрын
I know this is late, but just wanted to help out, here he is using THD Hotplate (he sits them on top of the heads on the left side of the screen)
@musiccer74468 ай бұрын
@@randolphcarlisle2976 Thanks man, really appreciate it. I actually found out myself and managed to get one in almost perfect condition for only 130€ My Amp has never sounded better tbh Have a good one:) 🤘
@siggiarabi6 жыл бұрын
why not just have the slanted stacked on the straight one and have them both active at the same time?
@montag45165 жыл бұрын
The whole point of this particular video was for the comparison of one style Marshall cab against the other. Our host here has other videos presenting a full Marshall stack being played through..
@SweatLord776 жыл бұрын
Everybody is leaning towards the Slants but they sounded boxy and muddy to me. Straight cabs had the mids scooped therefore allowing the low end to really kick and the top to shine through. Straight all day for me.
@Alexhangman Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Straight cab is the way to go.
@bobbywilson1132 Жыл бұрын
LOVE the Ace Frehley Alive! solo!
@charlesvonkanel1088 жыл бұрын
Whats on top of the head? Lights up when you play. Some kind of attenuater ?
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Charles Von kanel Hi Charles! Yeah it's THD Hot Plate Power attenuator.
@charlesvonkanel1088 жыл бұрын
How well does it work? Does it suck the tone much?
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+Charles Von kanel It works great, it has EQ compensation that works great for Marshalls. I use Hot Plate and Weber Mass 100 with my amps. The Weber is a bit more transparent to me.
@josephmonaco45035 жыл бұрын
Your 71 Marshall 1982A Slant cab sounds the best.
@nuckinfuts54815 жыл бұрын
I think the B cabs sounded better in all but one of the scenarios illustrated in this video but I prefer playing through an A/B deuce! I would typically mic the bottom cab(s).
@carlosgoyeneche63153 жыл бұрын
Have the straight cab but after watching this video will sure be getting a slant too!
@if6turnedouttobe97 жыл бұрын
My favorite Ace lick...
@0chappell7 жыл бұрын
Joahn, I think it's impossible that the speakers are the same in all cabs, in fact the straight cab 1 sounds totally different from the straight cab2.
@emergencynurse029 жыл бұрын
great analysis!
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@josephmonaco45035 жыл бұрын
What amp are you using in this video, a Plexi or a master volume?
@PeteKaltsa9 жыл бұрын
Cabs make your head sound different. I remember watching a guy compare his amp head with another amp with 2 Marshall quads and his amp sounded better than the other he was comparing until he switched cabs and then the other amp sounded better. No 2 Marshall cabs sound identical and it pays to try 2 different heads into it first
@wydeglyde00128 жыл бұрын
I was always told the 1960 B cab was more desirable than the A cab and had more "rock" tone to it, but I never separated my stack to find out. This demo.- "if correct" -certainly challenges the info I was told.
@JohanSegeborn8 жыл бұрын
+wydeglyde00 The B-cabs have received a certain status since they are so much more rare compared to A-cabs. I think the sound of the A-cabs are more commonly occuring on classic records. The B-cabs sounds more aggressive though.
@kangkane51215 жыл бұрын
Great recording!
@carlosgoyeneche63153 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome tone on the slant cab! What are the speakers?
@zandig6662 жыл бұрын
Great video bud !!!!
@godzilla9647 жыл бұрын
I like straight cabs for rhythm and slant cabs for lead.
@Ghandjaloodah9 жыл бұрын
Very clear thank you for that.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@mercurial717 жыл бұрын
Cool! The straight cab sounds more Slayerish :-)
@sylvainalain66379 жыл бұрын
Beside the sounds , what is the difference for the price tag ? Which one is the most expansive and harder to find ? A slant or a straight one ? Thanks for the explanations Johan :)
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
For vintage cabs there's 1 straight cab for every 10 slants. But they're not that more expensive
@sylvainalain66379 жыл бұрын
Cool :)
@LCORO10265 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Mad props, question I have if you get around to it. On the matching straight and slant cabs, were you runing the same speakers?
@Alexhangman Жыл бұрын
Straight cabs are amazing. I like it much more.
@geschickt6 жыл бұрын
First, as always--tack så mycket...nej...tusen tack!--to Johan for sharing his awesome "research" with the world! Second, it occurs to me in those diagrams, that the red waves coming down from the "top" (back) corner, well, they're coming "up" from the bottom (back) corner as well, right? So I'm thinking there's something more...*equalized*...(not quite the word I'm after), but perhaps more "evenness"(?) about the cancellation/attenuation/augmentation of the frequencies/overall frequency response with the straight-type. Not as "lively" as the slant-type; the straights are a bit darker, but more balanced or something... =)
@JohanSegeborn6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yeah the B cabs have a straighter EQ than the A cabs. Cheers
@geschickt6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Johan! I have a '70-'71 red tolex B cab (w/ the stock "Thames Ditton Surrey" G12H's)--so yeah, I'm a bit biased there... :D Nonetheless, your impressive reference demonstration of the two types is very edifying, as always!
@pauldeweerd56819 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! 1 vote to Slant
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@xbillygoatx7 жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you!
@Tubelistic9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting & nice vid again! What does this mean regarding the best pattern two mix two speaker types in a slant cab? Best to pair on the bottom and top or to use an x-pattern? For example I have a new 1960A with G12T-75s and a pair of G12-35XCs I want to include. Should these go in the top or bottom, or as an x-pattern? And would the 35XCs sound better paired with a pair of V30s instead of the G12T-75s? Any recommendations or demos you could put together? Thanks.
@JohanSegeborn9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the 35XC is louder than the 75 (100dB Vs 97dB sensitivity) so if you're not using an X pattern, put the 75s on top. If you pair the 35XC with V30, put the 35XCs on top since V30 has a very strong high mid. It's hard to say how speakers should be combined to get pleasing interactions inside the box. Maybe use some clip on cables to try some combinations before you choose. But the combinations you mention could probably all sound good. Cheers! Johan