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[@floxy20]

I heard a guy extolling his EV on TV. He said it was so great because it "ran on electricity." A moron only a politician could love.

[@3UZFE]

Some people really have no grasp on reality

[@johnchandler1687]

And no one asked him where that electricity came from, right?😊

[@spocko2181]

@@johnchandler1687He probably thinks it comes from the electricity mine.

[@martinwalker9234]

My EV does run on electricity....I generate it from the sunshine that lands on my roof...I know it is electricity because I measure it in volts and Amps.

[@arthurtreibs4174]

@@spocko2181

[@davebarron5939]

It's VERY simple, IF Bureaucrats are pushing it you KNOW its bad. "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help" ... RUN!

[@R0d_1984]

They are everywhere you can't, vote these fvckers out (If that is actually possible - I've seen it's still possible, just really hard, who's counting the votes...).

[@davids-c1f]

Just like c#ovid V#axs

[@JoeOvercoat]

It’s even simpler than that: anyone is trying to con you is trying to con you. It doesn’t matter if it’s Tesla, or the Administration.

[@brucesimpson8579]

Isn't it weird that none of these government bureaucrats and politicians drive an EV?

[@3UZFE]

100%

[@DavidCalvert-mh9sy]

When I retired at the age of 72, I decided after much research to purchase new car that may well be my last motor car. I wanted something that was affordable, comfortable, reliable, economic to run and good for long journeys. I bought a new Mazda 3 with the 2.5 litre petrol engine. That was 2 years ago. With a full tank of petrol, that's 50 litres and a squirt more, I can leave Adelaide for Melbourne. A tiny top up at Tailem Bend and a bite to eat, I can then drive all the way to Melbourne in comfort and no fuel stops, with the aircon running. And this isn't hypothetical, I have actually done this. So put that in your EV pipe and smoke it. Well, maybe not smoke it, lithium batteries cause fearful fires.

[@pippip8744]

I loved my Mazda 3 so much I replaced it after 19 years with a Mazda 3.

[@bwarey52]

That's 450 miles?.... plenty of EVs could do that with one 25 minute stop....... have you done the costings on the journey if you do it regularly?

[@pippip8744]

@@bwarey52 Have you done that specific journey? Which EV was it in? Was the AC switched on? If not be quiet. Thanks for the view, feeding the algorithm, driving engagement and changing zero minds.

[@bwarey52]

@@pippip8744 I haven't done the journey but lot's of people have and probably enjoyed the 100 dollers that they saved each time 👍

[@pippip8744]

@@bwarey52 false claim then. Thought so, thanks for helping the channel with the engagement.

[@colinkelly8213]

Thanks MGuy, the reason petrol prices are going up sooo very high, is because the labor party clowns are intent on forcing EVs on Australian people

[@rogerphelps9939]

Well you ICE drivers are forcing an unliveable future on your grandchildren and you are currently causing a lot of serious lung disease from the crap that comes out of your exhaust pipes.

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

so you'd vote for Mr Potato Head?

[@R0d_1984]

It's one of the reasons, most of the policies either directly or indirectly cause these problems, it's a total mess, even today's teenager could do a better job...

[@stevewest131]

You are only being persuaded to do what you should volunteer to do anyway. Stop burning fossil fuels and stop polluting air quality.. and save yourself a fortune in the process.

[@roydavis5613]

@colinkelly8213 Bowen is a dead man walking !!

[@gbsailing9436]

Apparently, it only takes five years for over 50% of EV owners to move back to ICE vehicles.

[@tonysheerness2427]

It takes five years to save up enough money to buy a replacement ice car.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Complete and utter bollocks. Evidence, sources? Can' find any? Thought so. You made i tup.

[@scaryfakevirus]

Maybe because they are up to their eyes in debt with them and can't sell them to another mug either.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Battery is F’d after 5 years

[@sunnybnk]

@@rogerphelps9939 Why so aggressive? Do you regret your purchase? I assume you drive an EV.

[@thomas05ish]

Shame that in Britain we’ll be stuck with EVs when idiots Starmer and Milliband takeover in July. God help us . Well said Derek Mathewson .

[@R0d_1984]

You need farage and Reform, it may not be the best, but it's the best that is available... Given i have English heritage, i'm horrified what has/is happening to the U.K (I know Australia is same/worse, a definite push for the same policies - The Tavistock Institue). All the best.

[@sang3Eta]

Capitalism is the freedom to choose. Communism is not. Let the free market work.

[@foppo101]

Capitalism is the freedom of the rich to trample all over you.They choose for you.

[@The-Cat]

Capitalism isn't about freedom. If it were up to capitalism it would be 1 monopoly buying out the competition until there is no choices left except the one that dominates the market. Capitalism has nothing to do with freedom to the individual. dont be a donut. Capitalism isn't a political system its an economical one. Mixing the two together is exactly the shit you see today EV capitalising on its priviges given to them by government.

[@davidvanderklauw]

No one is able to define the free market.

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

So you mean like the free market which led to the collapse of the global financial system in 2008/9?...And what do you think about government regulation of things like not just banking but the shipping and refining of crude oil products?...Or perhaps the airline industry?...If markets are completely free to do as they please then we would be in a right old mess..think about it.

[@The-Cat]

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 exactly!!! 💯 unfortunatly my previous comment was deleted by google/youtube but it was in principle the same point as yours.

[@Lightning77305]

Expensive, inconvenient, disposable electrical blow torches .

[@petiadavis5122]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@elonever.2.071]

The good thing is that soon there will be extremely powerful DC motors for the DIYer to do some back yard innovation with.

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@robertolang9684 Soon to be filled with EVs😂😂😂

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

Cheap to run, totally reliable, clean, smooth, quick and silent vehicles that will outlast any fossil fuel car and are about as likely to catch fire as you being hit by lightning right now as you read this. 😊

[@jasonhutcheon5991]

Cheaper to own, operate, charge at home for free and blow away any ICE car on the road. Funny how EV haters never mention that

[@mikehunt-w8u]

One thing i fear most is that they spontaneously combust.Watching these wretched things on fire is a nightmare.

[@elonever.2.071]

Agreed. You can fill an ICE vehicle to the max to get greater range. When you do that with an EV apparently you exponentially increase the possibility of battery combustion.

[@martinwalker9234]

How many EV's have you seen burning in the street? not the videos that MGUY scours the internet for but actual cars in the street? you are more likely to be hit by lightening than see an EV fire. There are 40 million EV's on the roads and MGUY had to resort to making a video on cheap rechargeable childrens scooters to back up his claims that EV's spontaneously combust....where are all these burning £40 000+ EV's?

[@elonever.2.071]

@@martinwalker9234 How many ICE vehicles have you seen burst into frames from being rear ended? I haven't seen any but apparently a few decades ago there were enough that there was a mandate for manufacturers to put the muffler and tailpipe away from the fuel tank.

[@martinwalker9234]

@@elonever.2.071 I have passed a couple of ICE cars on fire in the past, not huge fires but lots of smoke from under the bonnet and my mate managed to set himself on fire whilst welding his e-type jag and cut through the petrol pipe. My gripe with the EV fires is the statistic that an EV owner has 25000:1 odds of his EV bursting into flames but a 15300:1 chance of being hit by lightening once in his lifetime in the US. I have an EV and simply don't worry about events with 25000:1 odds of occurring...that to me is an acceptable risk. I am sure Boeing and Airbus have calculated the risks of having lithium ion batteries powering their plane electronics and the risk cannot be zero, however the anti-EV brigade still fly on planes with Lithium ion batteries as part of the system, they think these batteries only explode on eV's.

[@matthewgodwin3050]

"They didn't work in 1904, and they don't work now". Best quote ever. Derek is an absolute legend.

[@mrbig7718]

At least in 1904, it was faster to swap out every battery than it is to charge one in 2024

[@bentullett6068]

Baker cars didn't fair that well in 1904

[@mrbig7718]

@@bentullett6068 I know right🤣

[@lauralauren6432]

You have learned PROPAGANDA. ROCKEFELLERS TOOK THEM OUT

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@lauralauren6432 Huh?

[@teekay_1]

The reason this is happening is EV owners are asking a basic question: What can an EV do that my gas powered car cannot do? And why must I charge it every night? Why must I have a 2nd car if I'm traveling a long distance (which is common in the US)? And why am I paying more for a car that ultimately has less utility and higher insurance costs than a gas powered car?

[@sahhull]

Thats the biggest point... Its more expensive, less convenient, less capable.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Rubbish. My EV does everything that a petrol or diesel car can do and I most definitely do not have to charge it every night. Even if I did it is no problem to spend a few seconds plugging it in and wake up with a fully charged batery.

[@mellarner8253]

@@rogerphelps9939 Hitch a 2500kg caravan to it and travel 500km to a refuelling point then

[@alanakafang6143]

@@rogerphelps9939 wrong it definitely can't drive as far ... and you aren't going to fully charge an EV overnight on a standard 240V power outlet and get long range

[@GeoffTrevenen]

I will continue to enjoy my 6 litre V8 Commodore ute and I even might be a bogan!

[@the_forbinproject2777]

if EVs were that great you wouldn't need to offer incentives

[@romanpolanski4928]

Exactly correct. Only an inferior technology needs subsidies.

[@sirjohng1]

And of course it is the RICH buying the first ones who get the subsidies as they are too expensive for ordinary folks but we pay for the subsidies in our TAX.

[@rainersta7073]

An EV with the actual battery technology is great as a second car, when your electricity is cheap or you own a solar roof. As far as you are not forced to use charging stations. I own both. Gasoil and BMW E Car. It's nice to drive and very relaxed. But the longer the distance the more stressful because your thoughts concern stuff like "hopefully i arrive, charger is free, will function" and you have to drive slowly not to exhaust your battery too quickly. Short distances are great. Batteries must improve at least 50% more inner power at same weight. Better 100%. Sadly electricity energy in Germany is too expansive even at home. It climbed 50% by the end of 2022 and never got really back. Thats one main reason, that E Cars went off the winner direction.

[@3UZFE]

Exactly

[@BelloBudo007]

@@rainersta7073 I don't get the whole 'EV's a great for short distances' thing. Petrol cars are relaxed and fine for short distances as well as long distances. What's the appeal with EV's at all?

[@wazza33racer]

Once EV owners get slugged their "road tax" charge they currently dodge by not using fuel to be on the road, those numbers will only go up.

[@hudsonbear5038]

Don't forget the pay per mile and or being charged extra taxes even when using a home charger(regardless of if they use their own solar) the Losses n revenue EV's represent are just not sustainable .. Here in the UK alone Road tax(VED for the pedantic) and fuel duty is 30billion... The Gov just cannot take the hit in losses... No Gov can..

[@garreysellars5525]

As I said apperantly they can't be charged a per kilometre cost So make them pay for their fuel IE PER KWH

[@hudsonbear5038]

@@garreysellars5525 LOL yes you can be charged per mile... You never heard of odometer(used in ev still) and gps or even roadside camera's like use for ULEZ zones??? seems you haven't....

[@jazziez6467]

​@@hudsonbear5038blade runner tore them down

[@hudsonbear5038]

@@jazziez6467 And you think that will stop them using more cameras?

[@alwaysright3718]

Innocent people or stupid people? I'm betting the latter...

[@R0d_1984]

''They'' have spent 30+ dumbing down the pop, so much ''entertainment'' (AKA distractions), it's part of social engineering...

[@SLVBULL]

90% are jabbed enough said

[@bmw803]

That's the result of not doing your homework. Also, COMMON SENSE!!! How can any sane person even CONSIDER what government says.

[@adedavison762]

Stupid is as Stupid does !!

[@bmw803]

@@adedavison762 You mean, STOOPID see STOOPID does STOOPID. 😉

[@malp78]

Please guys let's be honest here. There are some people who will never give up their EV's because it totally suits their needs. And these people are not all nutters. My next door neighbour absolutely loves his EV and has used it for years on his milk round.

[@hikaru9624]

That's fair. There are plenty of sensible EV owners, they're just keeping quite as the loud minority of the group spout on about their nonsense. The sensible EV owners know that EVs aren't best for everyone and don't pretend there aren't flaws and drawbacks. They just enjoy their car for what it is.

[@malp78]

I guess comedy can be too subtle for some!

[@arsyadidris6349]

Got me on the first half there, mate😂

[@hikaru9624]

@@malp78 no that was my autism taking your comment at face value. Still my point stands.

[@robertbrown1852]

😂😂😂

[@DM-ki1bs]

I have a v6 Jaguar fpace and I love racing E.Vs down the motorway, knowing I wont win but gives me great pleasure knowing I have made their range diminish drastically as I pull into my 4 minutes stay at the gas station.

[@arsyadidris6349]

😂😂😂 Thats the hilarity of it, isnt it? Multihundred hp BEVs… all of them pottering around the highway below the speed limit, not daring to ruin their range.

[@robertbrown1852]

😂😂👍

[@Luka_3D]

What's the top speed?

[@jeffbroders9781]

In Idaho and Oregon the states just signed leases for cobalt mining, and are now telling farmers that they can't water their crops. This is driven by the extreme amount of water needed in cobalt mining. Please cover this.

[@DwaynePipes]

Good luck with that request! He reads very few posts unfortunately, takes his viewers for fools.😢

[@Robert-cr8bq]

Thank you for posting the bit from Mathewsons. Says it all.

[@krismorgan]

No sympathy for the pretentious.

[@Tom-pt3jf]

What about those here pretending to know all about EV's but have zero practical and factual experience with an EV? Is that not the definition of pretence?

[@planesounds]

@@Tom-pt3jf Krismorgan wrote "pretentious". Very different meaning to pretence.

[@johnchandler1687]

@@planesounds Same root word, though.

[@roywall8169]

I don’t feel sorry for people who are sheep.

[@R0d_1984]

I do, it's sad, most people are easily led and manipulated, there are may 5-10% of us that aren't, i'm more of a sheep dog, you more a fox; i despise predators.

[@Anonymous-c4p]

The flock have turned their backs on the good shepherd and it's only a few sheep dogs that are keeping the wolves at bay!

[@kellyeye7224]

So free parking, free charging, free road tax and a cash subsidy to purchase one still isn't enough to convince users? Colour me surprised.

[@petiadavis5122]

😂😂😂

[@glumpy10]

None of those things where I am mate.

[@derekdrummond7544]

All this will only be free until there are enough users to start price gouging as you have a captive market . I guess they forgot ICE cars used to have £30 road tax until there were so many of them , then Abracadabra £133 minimum . Free road tax will be gone for them soon because the revenue being lost is too hard to ignore.

[@SoloRenegade]

nothing is free. the rest of us pay for these rich people to get all that stuff.

[@kellyeye7224]

@@derekdrummond7544 Road tax was initially meant for the roads (upkeep, repairs etc). When it became part of the general taxation 'pot' the cost skyrocketed to cover the shortfalls brought about by Government ineptitude and incompetence. The fact that there were 'more cars' on the road only gave Government more incentive to gouge the taxpayers.

[@lloyd.8272]

We had an electric Vauxhall van on our work fleet, just got rid of it last month to replaced either another diesel transit. Contracts manager had it first for a few months then he had had enough of it, totally unusable to visiting multiple sites and most not located near charing points, it was then passed on to our carpenters who were mainly working at one site a day and still had issues. Once it was filled with tools or materials the range was shocking.

[@lloyd.8272]

Pun intended 😂

[@ianjones7740]

The question really is; What person or group started the EV idiocy in the first place. And, Why was it promoted as being beneficial ?

[@andyr8812]

Globalists, they are the ones promoting EV's. Why? Because, just like in communist countries, they don't want ordinary people to travel, only the "elites" should be able to do that. How to remove cars from the general public? Come up with the "climate change" narrative. Make all EV cars very expensive for people to buy them. Reduce the production of ICE vehicles, that will also push their prices up. Next steps: Make EV's much more expensive to buy because there is not enough minerals in the world to produce all the batteries needed to replace all the ICE vehicles. Increase the price of electricity to astronomical levels since the demand for electric power would be absolutely huge if all cars were EV's. This was all planned by the "elites".

[@elonever.2.071]

Politicians promote these agendas because the new industry start ups pay them a lot of money to do so.

[@jamesocker5235]

Who ever promotes it makes money off the poor

[@Juancheros]

California.

[@Audioremedy0785]

Because it is?

[@billmitchell7904]

In the UK Guardian today is a report that Stelantis are considering closing the Luton and Ellesmere Port plants because of the government’s ridiculous demand that they produce and sell an increasing percentage of EVs year on year! Demand for EVs , especially vans, is falling and they say increasing production in this way is economically disastrous.

[@rosen9425]

Planned economy is detrimental to everyone wtf are they doing, this socialist bs is crazy 😲

[@i1custd]

Who didn't see this coming? 1. A car which typically cannot drive a direct route over 300 miles. 2. Really long recharge times. 3. Really high electric fees. 4. No substantial electrical grid improvements to accommodate vehicles. 5. Major home improvement costs. 6. No free market enthusiasm. 7. High new vehicle costs. 8. Short vehicle life-span 9. High repair and battery replacement costs. 10. High insurance costs.

[@Galerak1]

Yes they're inconvenient, but didn't you know that 'inconvenience' is the new big thing?? There's a food delivery company here in the UK that has advertisements on the radio. The adverts go something like this:- "We only deliver once a week (because it's better for the environment), our food costs more (because we pay farmers at a fair rate) and our food won't last as long (because we don't add any artificial preservatives)" So basically, once a week they'll bring round some food that you could get cheaper at the supermarket, they'll charge you MORE than it would cost at the supermarket, and you're going to have to go to the supermarket anyway later in the week when your delivered food either runs out or goes bad. And they try and sell this idea with the tag line "A little inconvenience is better for the planet" or some such spiel. What I find shocking though is I actually saw one of these Able&Cole delivery vans out on his rounds once, which means there are some people who obviously fall for this kind of BS.

[@SteveLomas-k6k]

Like those cards in hotels that say 'Even though you're spending a fortune to stay here, you should feel guilty about having a clean towel'

[@antontsau]

QuasiNobel prize foe economy 2002 - fools as significant decision force.

[@Luka_3D]

How is an ev that you can charge at home inconvenient?

[@Galerak1]

@@Luka_3D Ahh yes, here we see the typical "I'm alright Jack" attitude in it' s natural environment. 🤣

[@Luka_3D]

@@Galerak1 I ask in all seriousness. How is plugging in overnight at home inconvenient?

[@k9killer221]

The demograhic profile for an EV owner is quite specific and simple. Urban metro location, not too far from work, garage (off-street parking) and rarely if at all takes long trips. That's it. Anything outside of this narrow segment and the EV loses to ICE.

[@floydfanboy2948]

And often the EV is their second car. Or third....

[@k9killer221]

@@floydfanboy2948 That's right. I think the official stat is 96%, which is amazing. I could also have mentioned the demographic is above average income/wealth.

[@marktanska6331]

EV, wind, and solar are all the same. Suitable in some situations, but not powering a country. Ask those countries that don't have reliable power. Gas, coal, oil, nuclear.

[@TeslaDo_d]

So, is it your assumption that the countries with unreliable power are that way because they are running on solar and wind? I’m wondering where you’re going with this statement?

[@marktanska6331]

@@TeslaDo_d I'm reading y comment again, and I stated that they don't have reliable power, They won't be buying Teslas until they do. These countries want coal and gas first.

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@TeslaDo_d Simple, when a tornado blows through and your windmills, power lines and solar panels are blown sky-high, where ya gonna charge your milk float??

[@bmw803]

​@@TeslaDo_d Most of them are banana republics, so $$$ is stolen instead of building/maintaining power plants.

[@bmw803]

Hydro power whenever possible is a very clean form of generation.

[@WillCamx]

Wait until the government puts the equivalent of fuel duty on electricity used to charge EVs.

[@DavidMartin-ym2te]

Derek Matthewson from Bangers and Cash on UK TV. He's a good guy - he and his two sons total petrolheads! It's a good watch.

[@andrewd7586]

Motorpoint Group UK stated it’s 70% of EV owners going back to petrol, diesel or hybrid. Meanwhile here in Victoria, The Australian Business Review, re AEMO, has said Australia must install 16 times its current capacity of batteries & pumped hydro by 2050, while large scale wind & solar generation will have to jump 6 fold, if the country is to deliver its transition to net-zero emissions by that date.

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

Please, not pumped hydro. The most destructive way to produce electricity is pumped hydro.

[@aperitifs]

Tumut no 3 pumped hydro , in 13 seconds flat can pump 1800mw into our grid... Way better than demountables of batteries that need replacement after the cycles have been used up...

[@planesounds]

@@aperitifs Talbingo can deliver rated output for 8 hours and then needs 22 hours to pump it back up. Energy returned is less than 80% of the energy consumed. Limitations are on the physical capacity of the pump. The power bought to pump must therefore be less than 80% of the price of the energy sold. In Queensland the idiot ALP want to build two pumped hydro in National Parks. Dedicate wind and solar farms will be built to pump the water back up and serve no other purpose.

[@antontsau]

​@@aperitifsqld pumped hydro budgeted for 15b. Only interest for these money is about 30 cents per kwh

[@BassistPaul]

I'll stick with my petrol Skoda Octavia (my 3rd from new). Fast, all the extras & gizmos, seats 5 adults, London to Edinburgh on one tankful - why the f. would I want to go electric?

[@martinwalker9234]

Do you really drive for 412 miles without a single break? If I was doing that sort of journey I would stop at least 2 or 3 times for half an hour or so....which is plenty to recharge my car at 150 kw. The EV also has the added advantage of doing the journey at 1/4 of the cost without the droning from the engine and constant gear changes to keep the engine running at its best inefficient speed.

[@alexnutcasio936]

I wasn’t brainwashed into getting a BEV. I wanted to try it. I agree with much of what you stated. Acquisition costs , insurance rates and replacing tyres alone were enough to make me go back to petrol. The upsides of no maintenance were outweighed by now higher electric , tyre costs, lack of range and as mentioned, insurance costs at least 30-40% higher than similar ICE vehicle. What really bothers me is the forced or induced government incentives to get people to buy or lease a BEV. My friends who also tried a BEV either got another petrol car or kept a “ gas” car just in case. 100% BEV is simply NOT the answer. Let’s not even talk about battery degradation and how once it starts, you own nothing more than a paperweight on wheels. Batteries can, do and will degrade.

[@c.s2001]

Wife bought a new Mazda CX3 today from Mazda Kirrawee NSW. Very happy. So am I.

[@elmira6500]

3 workers in Northvolt in Sweden have died in their sleep from poisoning at work. Northvolt AB is a Swedish battery developer and manufacturer, specialising in lithium-ion technology for electric vehicles. The mysterious deaths are all over Swedish media today.

[@yamamancha]

EV owners will eventually be hit with continuously increasing road taxes assessed by the government and charging tolls by power companies. Beyond that, the world has woken up to the pollution offshoring along the EV supply chain. Carbon credits will be added to EV prices after ESG mandates push manufacturers to adopt "fair trade" practices (like coffee and cacao). When all those additional taxes and fees kick in and government subsidies dry up, then we will be able to gauge the market's appetite for electric vehicles.

[@Eric_Hunt194]

This was a genuine conversation (paraphrased) I had with an EVangelist colleague: Me: "Public charging is so expensive" Them: "Then charge at home overnight" Me: "I live in a 5th floor flat, I can't charge overnight" Them: "Well, you don't fill up with petrol overnight at home either" Please make it make sense! 🙄

[@Luka_3D]

Yeah a lot of them don't understand that not everyone can charge at home. I also live in an apartment complex. I can charge while I'm at the gym on a cheap charger though. If the public infrastructure here wasn5so cheap and widespread I'd switch back to gas.

[@leelee9788]

I'd bet a lot of ev owners are on their 8th jab by now

[@NotJanine777]

We have both EV and ICE - the EV is a small runaround and it’s great to drive. Having said that, I do completely agree with everything you said against them. The problem in the UK is if your car is a company car, an EV is really the only option, for now. Once car tax for EV’s and ICE cars reaches parity, EV’s will no longer be worth buying due to all of the points you have raised.

[@markc6714]

Don't feel sorry for them. They didn't do their research

[@arsyadidris6349]

Ikr? I carry out the responsibility of providing unsolicited advice on car purchase, financing and maintainance for my friends and family. What they dont know is worrying. And thats ICE. BEVs? Where did these BEV buyers get their advise from? Tiktokers?

[@R0d_1984]

Maybe 10% of ppl do, it takes a certain person...

[@elonever.2.071]

My friend bought a used Tesla and was sleeping in the trunk at a charging station. I installed a 240v receptacle so he could charge at home and sleep in his bed...his electricity bill jumped to $400 per month. He traded it in and lost about $20K.

[@dwayne7356]

Not only do I not want an EV, I am serious considering finding a use "analog" car. Cars today have too many computers and track everything you do and very expensive to repair.

[@martinwalker9234]

Get a 1960's Morris Thousand, coil and points ignition, SU carburetor, crossply tyres... the works. Top speed of around 75 mph, 30 mpg on a good day and not a microchip on the thing....if you get the Traveler it even has a wooden structure...but keep on top of it as the wood is an MOT failure if it rots.

[@Luka_3D]

Slowly but surely people like you will realise thay it isn't EVs that are the problem, but the growing reliance on poorly writen software with backdoors and vulnrabilities lol

[@martinwalker9234]

@@Luka_3D Remember VW trying to fool everyone with that clever bit of software that recognised when the car was on an emissions test then changed the operating parameters of the engine to fake the emissions?.....Based on what you have just said, if I had to chose between a VW or BYD I would chose a BYD based on VW track record alone.

[@martinwalker9234]

@@Luka_3D Remember when VW tried to fool everyone by burying a clever bit of software in the engine management system in their diesel engines which recognised when the engine was on an emissions test and it tweaked the operating parameters of the engine to fake the emissions? Given a choice between buying a VW or a BYD I would chose a BYD every time based on VW's track record on this issue.

[@martinwalker9234]

Luka_3d: You are correct..remember when VW buried a clever bit of software in their diesel engine management systems that recognised when the engine is on an emissions test and then tampered with the operating parameters to fake the emissions test? I have no doubt the Chinese manufacturers are capable of doing this but so far they haven't been caught. On the plus side with an EV the engine management system cannot do anything to fake the emissions from the car as they are zero to start with.

[@patrickchubey3127]

I've been fortunate enough to have experienced EV ownership vicariously through tons of youtube videos, all of it, the pros and the many cons. We're scheduled to pick up our new ice Corolla in 2 days. Cheers.

[@GenoppteFliese]

My biggest issue with EVs is limited availability of skilled workshops that work on cars beyond warranty, the limited availability of replacement parts and the missing alternatives of 3rd party parts, when manufacturers do not care about easy repairs anymore. It looks like EVs are easy to assemble but hard to repair. Listening to Wham Bam Teslacam when it comes to repair costs and wait times I get the creeps ...

[@Luka_3D]

I think there's more repair shops than some people think. They just don't enter the spotlight. Look at Rich Rebuilds for example.

[@hiram1923]

Whoa, nice new channel logo and header! :)

[@mrow7598]

That graph would be higher if many people who also own an EV already own a ICE car. I wouldn't be surprised to see it nearly 1.5 times higher.

[@RichWithTech]

It’s disingenuous to list a reduction in grants as a reason for the decline in EV sales as it Doesn’t Address why those grants were needed in the first place which is that EV’s cannot compete without taxpayer funded government intervention. Now that the grants are being withdrawn, we are seeing the performance on an even playing field And the market is deciding

[@openminded3763]

Who remembers Max Miller? He would say 'eres a funny fing'. Well here another one. I recently drove from the (southern end) of West Midlands UK, in my 220 diesel fully loaded, across country eastwards with a detour further East to York. Two nights there then back west to the A1 and upto the east coast of the Scottish Border. There 6 nights with running about every day. Returning, drove across country westwards to Carlisle and came down the M6. We stopped at, the idependant, Tebay Services (which incidentally) I would have normally given a miss when I was working due to it's underwelming premises and overpriced, even for a Mororway, just average food, poor coffee and disgraceful toilets. It does have a decent but well over priced farm shop. Anyway because of the fairly recent TV series bulling it up. We gave it a try, big mistake, sky high prices and worse than I remembered it. What's that got to do with EVs? Well they had a big sign up boasting the latest Tesla chargers and sure enough there were 2 long banks of them but it's holiday time. Every charger was occupied plus two blokes were arguing who was next in line, with quite a few more EVs waiting in bays around the chargers with pissed off looking families striding about. Then down near the bottom of the car park there was a delivery area where 3 more Teslas were add-hoc parked with their drivers, hands on hips looking anxiously towards the chargers. They were waiting to get a bay nearer the chargers, ie, queing to join the queue. Another Tesla was cruising around passed the chargers no doubt edging his bet on jumping the queue. Ironically when I parked up The Bee Gees were part way through 'Stayin Alive' which came on again when I set off. As I drove passed the guys waiting in the delivery area, Barry Gibb was singing, Ha,ha,ha,ha, life going nowhere, sombody help me yeah! Ha, ha ha ha. Down the M6 to Preston 2 days visiting relatives there then back home to West Midlands. One tank of diesel and still almost 200 miles of range left in the tank. Ha, ha, ha, ha, stayin alive yeah!

[@sirjohng1]

🇬🇧It is now happening here AGAIN with Air Heat Pumps instead of replacing your gas boiler which, for the past 20 years you have been encouraged to buy AND ARE COSIDERABLY CHEAPER. Government TAXPAYER subsidies, swingeing demands and FINANCIAL PENALTIES on gas boiler manufacturers to ENSURE THEY SELL A CERTAIN MINIMUM % OF THEIR SALES AS HEAT PUMPS.

[@suegray6284]

My next door neighbours, who have an EV and a hybrid, have recently commented on their concerns about the dramatic drop in value of their fairly new EV. I have also heard that insurance for EVs is rocketing and of course, once most are driving EVs the government will then tax them 😂😂😂

[@arsyadidris6349]

Ikr? Im sure most people get quite annoyed when their brand new phone massively drops in value after barely a year into their purchase coz the latest flagship phone just came out. N thats for phones worth a few hundred dollars to maybe a thousand… Now imagine a car u set a loan worth tens of thousands of dollars n seeing its value plummet just a few years after purchase.

[@martinwalker9234]

Why is always a neighbor, friend, relative that has bad things to say about EV's, where are the actual owners.?...maybe EV owners are enjoying the car and just driving it.

[@arsyadidris6349]

@@martinwalker9234 i can actly mention a neighbor whos fully enjoying his VW ID…. -But he only drives it to work or grocery runs. -installed solar panels worth USD$13k equiv. -has 5 other cars, all ICE. So yeah. That ID is his toy. A curiosity him and his family could afford no problem. Myself? I did say said ID owner is my neighbor, so we have the same big house, also installed solar panels, and we have 8 cars, all ICE, BUT only 2 are still being paid for.

[@bunion8579]

Love the amount of times YT precedes MGUY's video with an EV ad.

[@DwaynePipes]

The irony if someone bought an EV due to watching MGUY!😂😂😂😂

[@gbear5358]

What excuse/response will The Electric Viking use for these facts and figures ? 😂😂

[@barryj388]

Some estimate an EV must be driven about 50K miles (some say less some say more) before it reaches the Break-Even-Point (BEP) on the extra "carbon" it accrues over and above what goes into an ICE car during the manufacturing process. Given insurance firms seem leery of assuming the risk associated with even minor damage to an EV, how many EVs will be written-off before they reach that BEP? How many will fail to reach the BEP for other reasons? For every one that falls short of the BEP the remaining EVs must be driven even farther to offset their footprint.

[@Karthig1987]

So true man. Stupid push for everyone to convert

[@ricshumack9134]

On renewables costing, as the proportion of them grows, so do the "Constraint Charges", the cost of not using their output in the grid. At higher proportions, this can exceed the utilised energy costs.

[@sahhull]

If the EV was a viable solution, the government wouldnt need mandates and legislation to force their sale. If you want one.... Buy one. I shouldnt have my choice limited so Im forced to buy one.

[@glumpy10]

When Digital Cameras came out, they didn't have to mandate people or manufacturers to buy them. People did because they were a btter product. Same when they bought out Music and Movie CD's. They were better than tapes and records so people bought them. When Plasma TV's came out, they didn't have to say no more tube sets, they were better so people bought them. IF EV's are so great, why isn't the public seeing this like they have done with every other better product in history and buying them off their own accord and why do Gubbermints feel the need to force them on people? Maybe it's because they are NOT better and people see that more and more every day.

[@nicomeier8098]

When a Mini is better then a Tesla, almost all ICE cars are better then a Tesla.......

[@stephenvelden295]

Than a Tesla!

[@jonathanchurch7561]

I love putting your channel on and in so many of the YT add intros are EVs 😂😂. I'm a businessman for 30 years now, and I can't imagine how frustrating it is for the car companies committed to advertising contracts when the public has turned its back on their products, just throwing more good money after bad.

[@evfactsnotliesplease]

Our business saves about $5000 per annum by using an EV, not sure what you are talking about.

[@EdVanMeyer]

The reason is they have found out that EV's are a pile of shit!

[@martinwalker9234]

Owned my EV motorbike for 3 years and BYD Seal for 4 months and they are both the best purchases I have made....never go back to a fossil car.

[@kellikelli4413]

@ 5:47 I recently read a news article regarding the TRAINING of his new Tesla autonomous vehicle, by Earl Stewart (the owner of Stewart Toyota dealership in North Palm Beach, Florida). What he and his equally elderly wife were forced to endure in order to train & use the autonomous package they paid for, I wouldn't wish on anyone... He tried not insult the vehicle & Tesla (honor among auto sales I'm sure) but I wouldn't buy one after I heard about all the problems they had. The vehicle could have WRECKED at least four times (obviously they're untrainable and unworthy of the effort (imo)....

[@DueyMiller-rk9dr]

I love my eV. But of course it's electric bicycle. I ride it 10 mi, 5 mi each direction and when it's a nice day it's very enjoyable. It has enough charge so that I don't have to pedal it and it goes about 24 mph.

[@simoncrooke1644]

I also love my e-bike.

[@peterhoulis1184]

EVs ARE NOT FOR AUSTRALIA

[@psychic1999]

I turned in my 4 year old tesla for an ice lexus. First off tesla screws you on trade in lexus gave me 4k more than tesla. Secondly in the winter I could barely get over 120 miles. Thirdly superchargers get filled now. Add that up and it's a no go. Still have 2 phev, love them.

[@ChrisBNisbet]

Since when have EVs been 'green'?

[@eifionhowells]

I've come across EV owners who deep down know they made the wrong decision to buy a milk float but will not admit it. Embarrased that they were duped?

[@Ingline-wg9lh]

Toy manufacturing is a big, big polluter. 70 years ago, children had 4 toys and played with 4 toys. Today kids own on average 112 toys but only play with 3 or 4.

[@frogsplorer]

But carbon gets sequestered in landfill as broken plastic toys

[@Berghemrrader]

Tax money from all citizens, included me, was used to create incentives for the purchase of electric cars. Now that "the party is over" it remains a waste of money that could have been used for much more noble uses.

[@Michael-jo9jb]

And let's not talk about the 5 year old children digging uo cobalt. And what is going to happen to the battery in 5 or 6 years.

[@Audioremedy0785]

‘I don’t like EVs - let’s make something up that’s bad about them then vastly eggagerate its lifespan so they look bad’

[@GustavoEBarriga]

Governments failed miserably on the "EV transition", they offered a ridiculous bad quality but almost 3x the price alternative to gas. I'm thinking the same, those who are coming back to gas cars are going to feel truly comfortable again by the convenience and comfort they lost for jumping into the EV hype. I mean, if you get stranded in the highway far away from any city due to lack of gas, is more probable you'll get help from someone who have a gas can, but what if you are on an 3 years old EV and the battery dies due to programed obsolescence? Also, how much time will it take to refill the tank using a gas can?

[@alaingloster4405]

Im in a bad place. I really like the interior of a Tesla Model 3 with its screen and connectivity, but I dont think EVs are viable. Just hoping someday the petrol automakers finally get a clue and look at their interior ergonomics

[@georgewilliamtussler5475]

😅😅😅😅 EV'S are dead...😊😊😊😊

[@simon8864]

I know several people that drive EVs but they're ALL lease vehicles. And they charge them at work cheaply. Probably the best way to do it! Otherwise it's a very difficult proposition.

[@tomb8232]

My niece went back to gas after her electric car almost burnt her house down

[@9xxc]

Uk fleet leaders say 92 percent of EV drivers choose another EV. 6 percent choose a hybrid. That’s a very high satisfaction rate.

[@evfactsnotliesplease]

MGUY scours the internet for subjective negativity about EV's from the misinformed.

[@garycusack9247]

so all these billions the goverment is spending in chargeing stations will be a waste of money in 20 years time could have spent it like on hospitals and roads and housing instead

[@orwellboy1958]

Net zero means the likes of us have to offset the 1%ers private jets, helicopters and luxury yachts.

[@dbuzman]

The high cost of replacement batteries on most of them is another reason. Some people have had the batteries wear out as is normal and would have had to pay almost what the car cost new for a new battery. And lets not forget the winter we had where the teslas couldn't take/hold a charge due to the cold. Most ICE cars, you get it jump started and you can go to work or wherever.

[@MoSportsUSA]

I have almost zero sympathy for people ignorant about EVs who rely solely on suspicious government dictates, manufacturers' marketing hype, and have neglected to do any independent investigation. Further, I would submit there are an appreciable number of people who are switching back to petrol vehicles because they now realized these are the true greener vehicles.

[@Thunderbloke2]

My daughter has done 97,000 miles in her 3 yr old Tesla model 3, she says she would have another EV company car. But she is looking for a Mustang Bullet to own.

[@carlsmith5545]

With fueling once a month at a half tank which takes me 3 minutes, 570 miles of range which supersedes any EV in America, A large full size luxury automobile which tesla dosent even make, paid off at 41K and more than a pleasure to drive, I'll keep my jaguar XJL and leave well enough alone.....

[@DiegoMarquesBrazil]

Cool new profile pic. Didn't expect Brazil in the third position of regretting EVs lol!!

[@stockae74]

My wife had a Tesla. She thought it would be awesome. It wasn't. We didn't shed a tear when it was carjacked, then crashed and burst into flames. We'll never get another electric vehicle.

[@andyhowlett2231]

An acquaintance of mine who lives on the next street got a brand new Peugeot e208 last year. The 208 is a good-looking car and I'd quite like one if we had the room, but I certainly wouldn't get the electric one as we live in a terraced house with no parking/charging space. My friend lives in the same type of house and he too parks on the street. Guess what - he's turned his wonderful EV in for a petrol version! When I asked why, he said he hadn't really thought about the charging situation and he says the range anxiety was a constant nag, as he is always looking at the charge indicator 'just in case'. He also said that when they went across to Wales for a holiday, he arrived there with only about 30 miles left and he spent the next day trying to find a charger, all the while running down the charge. The first two chargers he found (on his phone) were out of service. It drove him and his wife up the wall and put a dampener on the holiday. I didn't ask how much he lost on the deal as I didn't want to embarrass him.

[@DwaynePipes]

If he hadn't thought about the charging situation then he's an idiot. Deserves to lose money.😂

[@andyhowlett2231]

@@DwaynePipes I think he'd been taken in by the dealer's 'Oh you don't need a home charger, you can charge it for free at most supermarkets and there are plenty of pay chargers all over the country. All you need is an app to show you where they are'. Needless to say, that's only half the story!

[@DwaynePipes]

@@andyhowlett2231 anyone who trusts what a dealer tells them ... is still an idiot! The evidence is stacking up against him!🥴

[@trevor3216]

Love it! Finally a forum not dominated by EV fanboys who can't admit to their buyers regret.

[@baddogdax69]

They don’t work in the winter and now in the summer the battery dies and they don’t work in the summer, people getting stuck in the cars!

[@michaelvarble4392]

I towed a mini Cooper about 15 years ago that had been hit by lightning so hard it dented the hood. I got to the dealership and the service manager told me that he would need 8 thousand dollars upfront to install a new battery and just a 12 volt battery so they totalled the car. Any vehicle hit by lightning is a total loss no matter what brand it is even rolls Royce so im not picking on mini Cooper's. Just a little story about towing

[@BenthamGS]

Who do you sue when your EV explodes?

[@ttkddry]

I can highly recommend reading (online, pdf, extract, wikipedia, ...) the book Crossing the Chasm: Marketing and Selling High-Tech Products to Mainstream Customers by Geoffrey A. Moore. It perfectly explains the dilemma the BEV industry is facing, the product is not ready for Early Majority...

[@abbeyhall4624]

Onya Derek, let's go watch the whole video for fun.

[@ryandavis7011]

I bought a small Japanese Kei car - simple and uses a tiny amount of fuel. The hybrid ones of these (non plugin) get insane fuel mileage.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

We have a Nissan Leaf, you can literally see the battery percentage go down as you're driving and it's very worrying 🔋 😨🙏

[@rosscol1164]

Funny seeing a clip of Bangers and Cash, Derek Matthewson there on EVs. The business is a classic car auction house. Do you get Bangers and Cash in Australia?

[@dave3657]

Let’s compare EV’s to LED light bulbs. When the LED’s came out they cost more, but they used less electricity, lasted longer, and fit in the standard Edison socket that the old light bulb used. Plus nobody was forced to buy them. And now they cost the same, or less than the old incandescent bulb. An EV costs more, have a higher repair costs, needs special equipment to charge, depreciate faster, less range, risk of fire, and we are being forced into them. We are making no gains with EV’s like we did with the LED light bulbs.

[@barackblows1942]

We were forced by the communist government to abandon incandescent bulbs. LED lights are destroying your vision. I still use incandescent lights in my home. FJB 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[@privatenexus5764]

Even buying an EV does not mean you have realised /accepted it was an error. I actually saw one YT clip of an EV owner, who actually said his range dwindling was a "good thing". Some have drunk the kool aid, and are thirsty for more.

[@Jazzmaster71]

People are waking up finally.

[@fredEVOIX]

several honest car reviewers I watched said one thing about PHEV plugins hybrids "just like EV if you cannot charge at home do not buy them" but of course there are fools out there like the story I alread told of a rich guy who sold his remote cabin in the swiss alps in a beautiful and still wild region because he had trouble charging his EV on the way to it >< blindfolded eco fanatics

[@Twmpa]

Where I work we have a company car pool and we are slowly seeing the replacement of our older diesel cars with electric and plug in hybrid vehicles. The electric vehicles have short ranges and long charge times as we cannot fit fast chargers onsite. The PHEVs are giving us between 27 and 38mpg so they are using around twice the fuel that the diesel cars did. I am yet to hear an explanation of exactly how using twice the fuel we did before is saving the planet.

[@turboprint3d]

If they made cheap entry level cars ev people who could might buy them as a second vehicle. Currently it's just cheaper to buy a gas subcompact as a grocery getter . They need to make basically road legal golf carts for driving in town ,driving to work.

[@MeredithBell-v3f]

My research shows that battery only lasts 200k and new battery from $20k-50k dollars depending on model 😅

[@IsambardKingdom]

As EV’s are heavier than ICE vehicles will the owners need to pay higher tax for road maintenance? IMHO they must.