I'm back in a diesel after 4yrs running both EV & PHEV. What needs to change to get me to go back?

  Рет қаралды 1,586,303

Harry's garage

Harry's garage

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 9 600
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars 10 ай бұрын
So 63% of new car buyers are fleet buyers... they are heavily incentivised into EVs... but when those EVs come off the lease, there isn't an appetite for them in the 2nd hand market... so it's really quite simple to see why the 2nd hand prices of EVs are bombing because supply is far outstripping demand. the government can publish whatever they like and blame Rowan Atkinson but that's the simple facts and maths of it.
@WouterHermans
@WouterHermans 10 ай бұрын
These cars are not going to the second hand market yet. The second hand car market is now suffering from too much stock after the post Covid supply chain crisis, when residuals went up, and now come down again.
@MrAlpinab7
@MrAlpinab7 10 ай бұрын
@@jone8626 Hear hear !!
@splashmaster2000
@splashmaster2000 10 ай бұрын
@@jone8626 My Jag always breaks down, so I'll never buy another car with a combustion engine. That's the level of your logic.
@emailstomarek
@emailstomarek 10 ай бұрын
​@@splashmaster2000 will never buy Jag only! 😂
@RandyRodgirth
@RandyRodgirth 10 ай бұрын
@@WouterHermansover 700 Taycan’s and over 700 e-Tron’s on auto trader right now, with Taycan’s starting in the £40k region and e-Trons less than £20k. They definitely are starting to outstrip demand in the 2nd hand market.
@alunpiggott6452
@alunpiggott6452 10 ай бұрын
I think that the worst problems with new cars are the driver interference and distraction systems.
@harrysgarage
@harrysgarage 10 ай бұрын
I’m saving that one for another video 😉
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 10 ай бұрын
And all those dings and dongs !
@SimonLloydGuitar
@SimonLloydGuitar 10 ай бұрын
They are so clever, that they are stupid.
@Iceeeen
@Iceeeen 10 ай бұрын
@@harrysgarage Really wish journalist would start to acutally talk about how bad many of theese systems work. How in there right mind thought is was god to make it mandatory. They are horrible on any other than a bright sunny july day, not to talk about when it's snow on the road. Then this madness about going full touch screen. Whyyyy, it's so slow to use, the Van at work was a diesel and is now electric of the same model (due to the same reason mentioned here + to please the investors). But for some reason they felt the need to fit it with a utterly garbage touch screen that takes forever to just boot up. Not to talk about to just change the stupid radio station. also the sound qulity has gone down the drain, it's sound utterly garbage It also used to beep at everyting but solwed that with driving a screw driver through the speaker. Oh heavens the quiteness.....
@paulroberts5687
@paulroberts5687 10 ай бұрын
​@jonathancarson1974 Yeap they are brighter on dipped than older vehicles are on full beam. If I drive my off-roader in the dark, the lights from the vehicle behind can cause a shadow to be cast in front of it. They need to ban LED and go back to traditional lights.
@adrianrowden8266
@adrianrowden8266 10 ай бұрын
Harry, I did agree with you 100%, but that has already dropped to 87%...
@petemulhearn7787
@petemulhearn7787 10 ай бұрын
😂👍
@Andy_Holbrook332
@Andy_Holbrook332 10 ай бұрын
That’s brilliant humour!!
@Vattiis_Happonnen
@Vattiis_Happonnen 10 ай бұрын
@adrianrowden8266 what kind of climate are you in? 😂😂 I suspect I won't get much back from commenting, despite the incentives
@daverich3352
@daverich3352 10 ай бұрын
It might come back up when the weather warms up.
@richardmosley4549
@richardmosley4549 10 ай бұрын
I live in a hot country so I can only half agree with you....!
@seanclark8903
@seanclark8903 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding video, Harry. Really thorough consideration of many factors, all backed up by science/data -> extremely compelling. Thanks for steering me away from EVs - you have potentially saved me a lot of money and grief!
@car_pal
@car_pal 10 ай бұрын
22:23 Strongly agree on putting an efficiency rating on electric cars, they put it on TVs and other electric appliances why not on cars? Just because there are "zero" emissions doesn't mean you get to comsume all the electricity without care, resources are needed to produce electricity with or without fossil fuels.
@SHRModding
@SHRModding 10 ай бұрын
Wow didn't expect to see you here lol
@cyman777
@cyman777 10 ай бұрын
That is such BS since BEV are so much more efficient already. Also, a stronger BEV does not mean it is less efficient - on the contrary - it can recoup more electricy into the battery when braking.
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 10 ай бұрын
A lot of EV people want that to happen and have been pushing for it
@_chipchip
@_chipchip 10 ай бұрын
@@cyman777It’s not BS. More mass, means more power is required to move it. Look at the size of the battery on the new hummer. There’s a reason it’s a bit bigger than a Prius!
@xxxxxtrxxx13
@xxxxxtrxxx13 10 ай бұрын
​@@cyman777 We are talking about the efficency of the vehicle, not just the powertrain alone, pal
@mvmallinson
@mvmallinson 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant journalism, you need to make a speech in front of the House of Commons
@peterream9437
@peterream9437 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't happen unfortunately as we'd all realise , that yet again the government tells lies. Just look at Tony Blair ...Weapons of mass destruction.
@kevinashurst634
@kevinashurst634 10 ай бұрын
please don't. Harrys reasons for not buying an EV are pretty weak.
@marwood1969
@marwood1969 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinashurst634 You mean like the cost, the resale, the range, the problems with insurance and the vanishing battery power? Yes, what WAS he going on about?
@Spleen214
@Spleen214 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinashurst634I think you accidentally watched one video and commented on this one by mistake!
@PiefacePete46
@PiefacePete46 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinashurst634 : Our only car is an EV, and we are smitten with it. This video raises questions for us; I would not dismiss it lightly. The EV works great for us. It would not work well enough to consider for four out of five of our neighbours. There is a really strong case for use as a second car.
@keithdarcy7302
@keithdarcy7302 10 ай бұрын
If ever there was a Harry's Garage episode that should take 4 hours... this is it!!! Brilliant insight!!!
@Rickwardful
@Rickwardful 10 ай бұрын
For the first time since the L320, the RRS looks pretty again!
@grahamcook9289
@grahamcook9289 10 ай бұрын
Hardly. I wonder what has really upset Harry?
@FenderUsa
@FenderUsa 10 ай бұрын
@@grahamcook9289 don't like what ya heard eh?
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 10 ай бұрын
@@grahamcook9289 you heard him right mate, spoke nothing but facts
@mw8653
@mw8653 10 ай бұрын
Quentin Wilson would be pulling his hair out watching this.
@Grasshopper.80
@Grasshopper.80 8 ай бұрын
Patrick Boyle sent me.
@gloriamartinelli7899
@gloriamartinelli7899 10 ай бұрын
It was high time for someone to say how things really are, giving fact and figures to support their speech. Thumbs up for you Harry!
@Mattceeee
@Mattceeee 10 ай бұрын
As an EV owner of 5 years and also a 6 cylinder petrol car, this is one of the best and most balanced videos I’ve seen about EVs and agree with pretty much everything you say
@doriangray6985
@doriangray6985 9 ай бұрын
As an EV owner yourself what is your opinion of EVs?
@Mattceeee
@Mattceeee 9 ай бұрын
@@doriangray6985 I love the way they drive, the instant torque and speed of them and they are very cheap to run if home charging on a good EV tariff. I very rarely public charge so that makes life less stressfull and much cheaper. Remote heating and cooling is ace as Is the defrost function. The Tesla app is miles ahead of anything else out there too, whether EV or ICE. Having no key as such, no on/off button and just using a phone which automatically locks and unlocks as you walk up to it makes it a breeze. But… depreciation is horrible on them, they are very difficult to trade in at most dealers and I wouldn’t buy one personally. Like prob 90% of owners, (from what main dealers say the figure is vs personal buyers), the tax breaks, low BIK is what made me (my company) get one so it was really sold on incentives rather than me actually wanting one. Take away these incentives for tax etc and I would imagine the EV market would almost collapse overnight.
@robg521
@robg521 8 ай бұрын
This is the only scenario where it will work. A little EV charging up at home where you only ever run it to the shops and back, [so maximum lifetime capacity for the batteries is maintained] and also own an ICE engine car to use for when you need to use a vehicle to actually do anything.
@ts6070
@ts6070 5 ай бұрын
Nah it’s all about charging electric ⚡️ network and with Tesla is amazing 🤩
@ShadowHolder748
@ShadowHolder748 4 ай бұрын
@@robg521This just isn’t true, we have an EV that can do all the local stuff as well as being able to do 250+ miles before charging (with other models getting even more than that) and it charges very quickly when it does need to. The biggest problem with EVs imo is the cost not the range or anything about the experience (though charging infrastructure does still need improvements).
@davidfoster3814
@davidfoster3814 10 ай бұрын
28 minutes and 45 seconds of pure common sense . I learnt a lot . Thank you Harry .
@RobH.
@RobH. 10 ай бұрын
Only half the story, but if that's what you want to hear, then fair enough!
@motri5935
@motri5935 10 ай бұрын
What is the othwr half? ​@@RobH.
@westers1514
@westers1514 10 ай бұрын
@@RobH. Yes, what's the other half of the story? Or is your post nonsense with no evidence to back up your claims?
@Exogensis
@Exogensis 10 ай бұрын
@@RobH.That’s a throwaway comment if ever I saw one. The Internet is full of them these days 😂
@womblechops
@womblechops 10 ай бұрын
​@@motri5935he's a bit glib but I think Harry did briefly cover the other side of the coin when he did refer to the overall drive of carbon reduction. Where harry slightly gets it not "wrong" but badly valued is where he talks about the "cars are only 7% of emissions" and people may take it as an excuse that we shouldnt bother. The fact is 7% is still massive! I really like this video and I personally took it as guidance on what we should be doing to get it right and not why we shouldn't all throw it in and buy a diesel.
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 9 ай бұрын
Excellent talk. Thank you. RS. Canada
@mikep.5517
@mikep.5517 10 ай бұрын
I can't think of a presenter better suited to expounding upon these truths than Harry Metcalfe. Thank you, sir, for being a stoic & eloquent voice of reason in this current climate of idiocy.
@EP-bb1rm
@EP-bb1rm 10 ай бұрын
The battery degradation was a car with nearly 250,000km on it.
@johnh3095
@johnh3095 10 ай бұрын
He made his points very well. I think one area where EVs make perfect sense (apart from their current massive sizes and weights) would be in big cities. EV delivery vans and an EV K-car culture (little Honda E, VW e-Up etc) around places like London would be great. Quiet, being used in the environment they are made for, not 2.7ton SUV EVs that only ever see a kerb at their local schools! I lived in Germany for close to 15years. If you wanted to buy a car (pre EVs) the dealer would ask you what sort of journeys you did mainly, and how many Km a year. If you said I do 5000km in and around town doing errands etc, they would almost refuse to sell you a diesel as that would not make sense. If however you did 30,000km mostly shooting between big cities on the autobahn, a diesel was your only option! I have a diesel now, however after moving house and WFH being enforced on me, we do bugger all long journeys, so a small petrol or an EV home charged would be perfect! Euro standards made engines get more efficient, but OEMs then made their cars fatter negating all those gains! Battery health and a proper Use Case profile should be used to steer you towards your next car! Great you chose the diesel, but I still can't understand why it had to be an SUV and not a large Estate! BMW 5 series with an efficient 2.0 TDI! I'd go for the Skoda Superb, it's superb in every way!
@philiphawkins4684
@philiphawkins4684 10 ай бұрын
Didn't mention that local pollution for electricity is zero... While however good thinks his diesel is it still producing heavy particle pollution that causes cancer.
@Superman-nn4nw
@Superman-nn4nw 8 ай бұрын
At the end of the day nobody is going to tell me what I drive. It’s down to personal opinion. If you don’t like EV’s then don’t buy one simple.
@yelapa999
@yelapa999 8 ай бұрын
@@philiphawkins4684 Yes, for pollution yo need to consider the pollution that may not be local-at the source(s) of electricity, many of which merrily continue to produce CO2 in order to produce those, ahem, "green" electrons.
@DrRogB
@DrRogB 10 ай бұрын
Bjorn is terrific. I am glad you have found him.
@bluetitan20
@bluetitan20 10 ай бұрын
Watching Harry throughout this video, was like walking into a classroom and sitting there as a very smart professor, gives you a lesson in a subject and you suddenly just get it!! Many people could have waffled on for hours but Harry, you managed to get so much details and information into a relatively short 28 minutes. The current car market place has so many similar traits, as when back in 2006/7, manufacturers were seemingly only pushing diesel as the solution to reduce Co2 emissions. We all know how that turned out, sticking diesel engines into cars that should never have had them and selling them to people who should never have bough them (like city runabouts, only doing short, stop-start trips). It very much feels like that again, only this time manufacturers have put literally everything into EV, with no alternative or backup plan. Absolutely brilliant job there Harry.
@EP-bb1rm
@EP-bb1rm 10 ай бұрын
Surely the alternative to diesel was petrol, hybrids and diesels... Or did they appear from nowhere?
@arnoldmiga5689
@arnoldmiga5689 10 ай бұрын
the reason was the road tax @@EP-bb1rm
@colinosborne3877
@colinosborne3877 7 ай бұрын
Outside chargers are never under cover, often around the back of a carpark and difficult to find in a poorly lit area. Then you arrive in the dark and its raining. So with the water running down your neck you are trying to read the connection instructions. Get it wrong and they just dump you to back to square one. The card reader is often low down and with water on the screen very difficult to use. Even on a good visit, it takes 3 minutes. Its a killer when you find there is no WiFi to join yet another club. Add to that when you get there, you find another car is pulling all the power, and not enough for you. We have had our Kia Soul 30KW for 3 years and love it. Being retired we rarely go on long journeys, but we plan where we will stop, coffee, shopping etc, no problem. We are still getting 135 forecast miles in the summer, but that drops to 95 when its really cold. We always charge at home over-night with the granny charger, no problem.
@juliandale50
@juliandale50 10 ай бұрын
Harry I live in a council flat. I’m on the breadline but even if I could afford a car I’ve 0 chances of home charging . Like millions of others who can just about afford an old fiesta or something. Love your vids on both channels ❤❤
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. EVs - if you live in a flat, you're screwed. Or do you have the spare time to spend (approximate figures) an hour charging for every 200 miles you want to drive? The major problem is not EVs - it’s the lack of a charging network. The people who ignore that are the ‘I’m alright, Jack, I charge at home’ brigade - great for you, not for others. (Oh, and if an EV works for your particular situation, do tell us all, because that means they work for everyone.)
@mr488gto8
@mr488gto8 10 ай бұрын
Me 2 👍
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 10 ай бұрын
People falling over extension cables because you haven't got a off street drive way and claiming off insurance companies will also be a problem
@Franksey180
@Franksey180 10 ай бұрын
When EV's first became a thing I thought of exactly your situation. In densely populated areas with apartment / high rise homes, what was supposed to be the charging solution even if everyone could afford an EV? Would there be a new mass construction of "Park and Ride" type sites - "Park and Charge" (and ride a bus back to your home location which may not be five minutes walk away?). Also if "Park and Charge" (on large scale) sites existed, imagine the safety risk of having that many Lithium batteries in one location.
@tonyb3629
@tonyb3629 10 ай бұрын
@@julianevans9548 There *are* many problems with EV's, and it's not just the charging network. Upfront cost, depreciation, insurance etc.
@ianstoys13mgs
@ianstoys13mgs 10 ай бұрын
Probably the best video ive seen anyone produce so far explaining how it is and with the right suggestions to move forward. 10/10 Mr Metcalfe
@rafa5d
@rafa5d 10 ай бұрын
The man is a genius - proper car journalism - informative and gives you a real world insight into what is what!
@kevinashurst634
@kevinashurst634 10 ай бұрын
sorry no, it was poor, About as good as Mr Beans article in teh Guardian.
@S-Ltd1000
@S-Ltd1000 10 ай бұрын
Geoff buys cars KZbin has been covering this subject for the last couple of years.
@kevinashurst634
@kevinashurst634 10 ай бұрын
@@S-Ltd1000 yes he has. To be fair he does great click bait, but sadly short on facts, like his stupid oppo macmaster. They are youtube prostitutes.
@robindumpleton3742
@robindumpleton3742 5 ай бұрын
​@@kevinashurst634He'll love that comment, well worth putting foil on his hat. For the run to Benidorm, personally I would have chosen the Saab Bio and run down on Superethanol at €0.85 per litre using 85% less fossil fuel. In fact allowing Superethanol in the UK would save 85% of all fossil fuel in the UK Petrol fleet That is better than batteries.
@alankemp2415
@alankemp2415 7 ай бұрын
This is my first time listening to Harry's garage. Brilliant presentation. Clear, logical issues and discussion. Tks heaps from Melbourne!!
@brogenville
@brogenville 10 ай бұрын
Mind boggling levels of sensible and logical thinking from Harry.
@mrmartin2079
@mrmartin2079 10 ай бұрын
There always is ,thankfully
@StuartPlumbley
@StuartPlumbley 10 ай бұрын
What's mind boggling is the people making the decisions about what we will be allowed to drive in the future don't seem to have the same levels of sensible
@eugenux
@eugenux 10 ай бұрын
actually nothing is sensible. It is clear that none of you live in a big city; if you did, the noxes and diesel fumes would make you want to have the power to remove all diesels from existence. Trust me on this one. (from a diesel owner in the mid 2000s) edit. imo, diesels should be banned from getting into cities or alternatively, their owners charged hard for taking their cars within city limits. If you live in a quiet town or village, in the country-side, I understand why you cannot relate to this situation but, trust me when I'm saying it.. I am sick and tired to breath diesel fumes just from going on a walk in the neighborhood. We, those who live in the cities, have the right to breath clean air as well.
@brogenville
@brogenville 10 ай бұрын
@@eugenux that’s fine, but the reality is that not everyone does live in a city. And even the people that do are still entirely dependant on countless diesel vehicles serving their needs. Needs that are not close to being met by BEV vehicles. Speak to people in the Scottish highlands about how well electric cars work for them…
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 10 ай бұрын
@@eugenux what fricking diesel fumes if it's a euro 6d car? Come on stop the bullshitting. I got a diesel for long distances not for a damned city
@davidhalloway3028
@davidhalloway3028 10 ай бұрын
Harry’s point 3, a reality check. A car is a device for moving people and things from A to B. It should be comfortable, efficient and safe for those inside and outside. The motor industry, consumer mentality and the financial services have got us here. We only have to stop buying for a few years. No one “needs” a new car after 3 years, we could think about buying cars that could be serviced and repaired at reasonable prices. When the factories get constipated maybe they’ll change their diet.
@Leo555ZZZ
@Leo555ZZZ 10 ай бұрын
The customer is always right ,,,needs to be remembered.
@jameslove888
@jameslove888 10 ай бұрын
@@Leo555ZZZsaid by someone who doesn’t deal with customers. They’re quite often wrong.
@brettsta72
@brettsta72 10 ай бұрын
EVs last significantly longer than ICE and require less maintenance.
@Leo555ZZZ
@Leo555ZZZ 10 ай бұрын
@@jameslove888 I dealt with customers for 17 years ,,,but you misunderstand ,,if customers stop buying a product , the makers are forced to change or else they will go out of business. In the end , the customers as a group , are always right and will be the ultimate decider of which products succeed and which fail.
@Leo555ZZZ
@Leo555ZZZ 10 ай бұрын
@@brettsta72 That remains to be seen ,,,battery degradation is real and battery replacement is a significant cost.
@theboyneeds
@theboyneeds 10 ай бұрын
You're a flippin' legend Harry! Thanks for summing it up so well.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 9 ай бұрын
I have been driving the same 4 litre Ford inline six for 25 years. The range is the same as when it was new.
@001razz
@001razz 10 ай бұрын
Genuinely think electric should be for city cars / bike / electric scooters. Keep them cheap and cheerful
@colin5577
@colin5577 10 ай бұрын
100%. I’ve an i3S and though I think it’s brilliant, I’d be the first to admit that in many ways it’s a glorified pram and in no way replaces an actual car with a Winter range of less than 200 miles. It goes back in March and I won’t be getting another EV.
@humphreybradley3060
@humphreybradley3060 10 ай бұрын
I’ve driven an EV for 4 years, used it for road trips all over Europe. So that statement is not correct
@kevinharker1840
@kevinharker1840 10 ай бұрын
Agree.
@iandavidson99
@iandavidson99 10 ай бұрын
12 years ago Renault showed us the way with the Twizy (2012). I have one and love it!
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 10 ай бұрын
India use CNG powered cars ,trucks and buses .Some of the CNG is made from household waste .Twin scuba diving sized tanks don't rob boot space like LPG tanks .
@richardrobinson4086
@richardrobinson4086 10 ай бұрын
This is by far the best video I have seen explaining how the car market is heading...thank you Harry.
@venge211
@venge211 10 ай бұрын
This video is an oasis of calm amidst the current insanity. Thank you!
@johnparnell8571
@johnparnell8571 9 ай бұрын
Harry, thank you for putting this across so comprehensively, and fairly. Spot on!
@PWL104
@PWL104 10 ай бұрын
Finally, a mature, balanced assessment and a genuine reality check. Thanks Harry
@chrisbartrum3201
@chrisbartrum3201 10 ай бұрын
Coming down from a 2.0l diesel Subaru Forester which could achieve 55mpg on a motorway run (loved that car) which could climb a snowy single track in the snow, I moved down to a Mazda CX3 1.5 diesel which is cramped but does never less than 65mpg and 75 mpg with a soft foot and has a mere £30 road tax. A no brainer when you're just an average pensioner and have to travel at least 10 miles to the nearest supermarket. I suspect this is the real world for most folk. I fill up once every 2 months.
@ruedipreiss3654
@ruedipreiss3654 10 ай бұрын
Hyundai Kona Electric, 4yo on Autotrader at £13,495, still 1yr manufacturer warranty (4 years on battery and drivetrain), zero road tax, easily goes 250 miles/charge - you could do your supermarket run at least 12 times with that. £60 worth of charging = 2550 miles (incl. 15% charging loss), how far do you get with £60 worth of diesel in the CX3? How often have I changed brake pads and discs over the last 5 years / 110k miles? Never.
@wagmiorngmi
@wagmiorngmi 10 ай бұрын
Your 75mpg is great, but the car will have disintegrated on your driveway after a couple of years as they don't put any anti-corrosion treatment on them. The days of well built Mazdas are but a distant memory.
@russellaycock3703
@russellaycock3703 10 ай бұрын
I wish we could get the Forester diesel (and Toyota diesel pick up trucks) in the U.S. 55 mpg is extraordinary, not to mention 75!
@loungelizard836
@loungelizard836 10 ай бұрын
Americans would never buy those little cars, diesel or not. We have a 20 year old Prius that still gets 45 mpg at 65 mph and around 40 in city. But everyone around us has huge trucks and large SUVs because fuel is cheap.
@loungelizard836
@loungelizard836 10 ай бұрын
If you are using Imperial gallons, then your Subaru would still be getting a respectable 45mpg (US gallon = 3.8 L), which is rather surprising even for a small SUV, but moreso because those are 4wd!
@stevegoodier1241
@stevegoodier1241 10 ай бұрын
Harry & team.. This vlog must be the most accurate and honest reasoning video I have ever seen, I can't argue with any of the facts you put forward... If only more people would just realise the actual numbers involved. Nice one, Regards Steve
@bitzanu1
@bitzanu1 8 ай бұрын
Excellent and straight to the point, sir. Keep on the good work!
@boudivv
@boudivv 10 ай бұрын
Bjorn Nyland is indeed doing a great job in comparing EV's.
@giuistefanjr72
@giuistefanjr72 10 ай бұрын
And most of them rather disappoint in terms of range and charging capacity,even with big battery
@amundalfredsen3479
@amundalfredsen3479 10 ай бұрын
@@giuistefanjr72I disagree. We rarely use fast chargers and drive 20k+ km per year. EVs have more than enough range for most people. Bjørn has proven this over and over again with the 1000km challanges.
@ClarenceDold
@ClarenceDold 10 ай бұрын
​@@amundalfredsen3479 We have driven our Chevrolet Bolt EUV comfortably for trips of 1200 miles. We stop to eat and charge, sleep and charge, and once a day, waste time for a charge. Most of the time, it is charging at home, and traveling anywhere in our metropolitan area of 7 million people.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 10 ай бұрын
@@amundalfredsen3479 How much are you towing? Many people like to tow a caravan.
@Tähtiyö
@Tähtiyö 10 ай бұрын
in UK it seems that there are 550 000 caravans. Its like 1% of population?@@robertkubrick3738
@duncanstokes2509
@duncanstokes2509 10 ай бұрын
Nicely delivered - no emotion, factual and without an agenda. St Harry of Metcalfe thank you.
@AlejandroPedroso
@AlejandroPedroso 10 ай бұрын
Finely put! I agree that this is one of your best videos! Masterclass in distorted market dynamics, you hit every single point: Customer needs vs absurd regulation, lack of proper information and facts, skewed stats, policy pushing and even a product being plain ugly because of design by committee, brilliant! Thank you!
@urbanpulsewalks
@urbanpulsewalks 4 ай бұрын
I completely agree with Harry's analysis on the current EV market. He highlights the critical issues of depreciation, high costs, and practical inefficiencies that many private buyers face. Harry's points about battery degradation and the lack of transparency from manufacturers are particularly compelling. His emphasis on the need for efficiency and realistic expectations aligns perfectly with the reality many of us experience. This deep dive was both insightful and reflective of the current automotive landscape. Great job, Harry!
@benhooper1956
@benhooper1956 10 ай бұрын
Best video I have seen all year. Proper journalism, proper reasoning, this is what we need. I really hope someone is listening because this needs to be heard
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 10 ай бұрын
Any ordinary person knows all this, which is why they stay with gas.
@hacob2004
@hacob2004 10 ай бұрын
@@johnsmith1474 Tons of people have no idea about things like battery degradation or the disaster that is the public charging network etc. They just hear EVs are the future and then buy one and end up finding that it's not as great as they were told and either have to stick it out or take or huge hit on the depreciation and switch back to ICE. This is good advice
@Nick.Colemann
@Nick.Colemann 10 ай бұрын
Agree, Some of Harry's best work. Great logic
@fatfreddyscoat7564
@fatfreddyscoat7564 10 ай бұрын
Nobody in power cares.
@richardcarter1000
@richardcarter1000 10 ай бұрын
We have an opportunity to vote out anyone in power this year who wants to keep up the Net Zero insanity and war on the motorist​@@fatfreddyscoat7564
@RickCT2000
@RickCT2000 10 ай бұрын
Your best video ever! Thank you for a sane argument presented with facts, evidence and clarity. You pulled no punches and made a superb case!
@yetidh9
@yetidh9 10 ай бұрын
In Sweden there are used car companies who specialise in electric cars. They test the battery and you get a certificate detailing the condition, degradation, etc.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 10 ай бұрын
That is not going to convince people.
@robinwatts7079
@robinwatts7079 10 ай бұрын
@@Art-is-craftWhy not?
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 10 ай бұрын
@@Art-is-craft er, you can get your ICE "Inspected" by experts as well, and that convinces people. WHen i bought my M3 the owner had had a "condition inspection" report pepared by the AA (a UK motoring organsiation) and that seemed to be worth something? So why wouldn't a BEV that has been inspected be similarly worthwhile??
@ad_fletch
@ad_fletch 10 ай бұрын
Dogmatism
@asatoraegames4533
@asatoraegames4533 10 ай бұрын
Any EV buyer should demand this as part of the sale.
@kevinheath7588
@kevinheath7588 10 ай бұрын
I have a Hyundai i-10. Bought it second hand with 50,000 miles on it. It does over 50mpg, £20 annual tax and is very cheap on maintenance. I only use it for popping about, about 3000 miles a year. Bloke at the garage told me as long as it's looked after should get 20 years of hassle free motoring from it, for virtually nothing. Cost me £3500 over two years ago, and I have not had a single problem with it. Starts first time and runs lovely. I don't get people who spend a fortune on cars.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 10 ай бұрын
30 years ago Hyundai had some issues, a coworker had one and it was crap. Last year I bought 3 Hyundai Accent diesels for family members and I expect all of them to get 60mpg for at least 10 years use. Things have changed. Resale on your i-10 is very good here, they are liked.
@kevinheath7588
@kevinheath7588 10 ай бұрын
@@robertkubrick3738 That's brilliant news...cheers :-)....You know I been kinda working it out...and I reckon if I buy another petrol car just before they stop selling them in 2035 and I can get say 15-20 years out of it...I will never need to go electric.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinheath7588 Might get a couple late model and gently used for myself. Cheers
@sa_supercarz8499
@sa_supercarz8499 10 ай бұрын
I have the Grand i10 and currently on 71 000 km have zero issues bought it Demo from the Dealer very affordable to run don’t see me selling it anytime soon
@kevinheath7588
@kevinheath7588 10 ай бұрын
@@sa_supercarz8499 I just checked one of those Grand models out on Google, gets a really decent review and looks a fair bit better looks wise than my slightly older i-10 model, only thing is I can't find any here in the UK auto trader magazine, which is a shame.
@lahrichbx
@lahrichbx 10 ай бұрын
Following Bjorn for years.. He has come longs way with knowledge of electrical cars. Very good videos .I think electrical car companies see his reviews.!
@rkan2
@rkan2 10 ай бұрын
Bjorn is the benchmark as far as I am concerned!
@markcary8165
@markcary8165 10 ай бұрын
Just brilliantly presented facts that seem to not be understood by the media at large. Every politician should be made to watch this video.
@JonathanCheeseman
@JonathanCheeseman 10 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how brilliantly presented the facts are, they will not persuade politicians to become apostates from the new religion of net zero.
@Davidl-ux5ke
@Davidl-ux5ke 10 ай бұрын
harry and clarkson should be in charge
@Denise-vn8wz
@Denise-vn8wz 10 ай бұрын
UK Politicians don't seem to like EVs themselves, so why should the VOTERS?
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 10 ай бұрын
Sadly our politicians are very much misguided and misinformed these days. The lobby groups with the most convincing stories (even if completely untrue) are being believed. I don't know how we can fix that. And educated politicians don't make good media personalities. It's almost like, if you can speak well and are entertaining but know nothing, you'll do as our leader. SMH.
@WTFinancepodcast
@WTFinancepodcast 8 ай бұрын
The Chinese Steel Industry alone produces more CO2 than top three EU emitters COMBINED (U.K., Germany and Turkey)…
@nochops1781
@nochops1781 7 ай бұрын
UK and Turkey are not in the EU.
@fairalbion
@fairalbion 10 ай бұрын
This one of your very best, Harry. You nailed all the issues.
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you, madam or sir
@pachy444
@pachy444 10 ай бұрын
Most of those issues he nailed were big luxury car buyer issues though.
@pincermovement72
@pincermovement72 10 ай бұрын
Except saying we wanted to go on this co2 journey, I think it’s all crap.
@ricknowhere
@ricknowhere 10 ай бұрын
It would be even better if Harry addressed the bigger issue of the fact that Co2 is a trace gas with human contribution being insignificant.
@HansSprungfeld716
@HansSprungfeld716 10 ай бұрын
Bjorn is a legend! 💯
@brembodream
@brembodream 9 ай бұрын
Agree🤩 Bjørn Nyland is the reason we bought our S85D in 2015. Greetings from Oslo Norway😊
@a20dmd
@a20dmd 10 ай бұрын
If politicians tell you to do something, the opposite is usually the better option.
@linuxtuxfriend9155
@linuxtuxfriend9155 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the tax payers have to foot the bill anyway, paying for the stupid decisions politicians made.
@shadowx2k2007
@shadowx2k2007 10 ай бұрын
Yep, like labelling people who gosh give roper advice on EV's is somehow "hurting" EV sales!
@milhouse147
@milhouse147 10 ай бұрын
This applies to all areas of life! ;)
@barry5138
@barry5138 10 ай бұрын
I'd replace usually with always!!!!
@fromalandfarfaraway4192
@fromalandfarfaraway4192 10 ай бұрын
My experience, but it is more like always and not usually.
@robevans916
@robevans916 26 күн бұрын
I understand your want for a battery health monitor in the car, but honestly not having one is no different than not knowing exactly how much horsepower your old gasoline car is making now. Who knows whether or not the previous owner changed the oil once a year at 3.000miles or ran it until they had time and changed it at 12,000niles? Who knows if they went 100% throttle everywhere or just let idle in stop and go traffic for 30k miles. There’s just not an easy way of knowing these things without extensive testing.
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879
@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely sensationally spot on video that EVERY car owner/buyer should watch.The analyzes are to perfection.Many thanks Harry for this amazing contribution to the subject!Needs to be spreed on socials
@adrianhickson2772
@adrianhickson2772 10 ай бұрын
What an absolutely brilliant informative and common sense video. Well done Harry for such an objective discussion - Hat's off to you Sir 👏 👍
@jimmybob3756
@jimmybob3756 10 ай бұрын
Do remember that Harry also promoted full EV cars but now that the truth is out there his tune has changed.
@timcreelman3540
@timcreelman3540 10 ай бұрын
Great video Harry. The market for EVs is about to burst as you describe the litany of negative issues. Here in Canada, a recent EV driver slightly damaged the bottom of his EV battery in his 2-year old vehicle. The quote for a replacement battery was $60,000, more than the value of the car, so his insurance wrote off the car. Tell me the insane logic of this debacle. Early-adopter technology in anything new goes through these growing pains. Steer clear of EVs for the forseeable future until sanity returns.
@BuffaloBill-pt9ns
@BuffaloBill-pt9ns 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more,.insanity
@SNORKYMEDIA
@SNORKYMEDIA 10 ай бұрын
what EV was it?
@timcreelman3540
@timcreelman3540 10 ай бұрын
I believe it was a Hyundai.@@SNORKYMEDIA
@viveksoty
@viveksoty 10 ай бұрын
​@@SNORKYMEDIAit was Hyundai ioniq 5
@jeromezone
@jeromezone 10 ай бұрын
The problem is - I also saw this story; it was covered on TV news. If TV news is picking it up, it's most likely not a very common occurrence.
@tchauish
@tchauish 8 ай бұрын
My 17 years old corolla still has 100% mile efficiency.
@therpope
@therpope 7 ай бұрын
Except it needs to be serviced twice a year
@tchauish
@tchauish 7 ай бұрын
@@therpope Service is cheap
@BillClinton228
@BillClinton228 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand the problem, if your EV doesn't give you the performance you want just give it to your butler and buy a new one.... easy solution
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 7 ай бұрын
​​@@therpopeOil changes are mostly done by gravity in a Corolla, but you can also suction the oil out the top. Some vehicles have difficult to reach oil filters.
@organickevinlondon
@organickevinlondon 7 ай бұрын
BUT, after 17 years, '@7,500 miles per year, it's banged out about 25 tons of CO2. @ 1 and 1/2 tons per year.
@daggidding4478
@daggidding4478 10 ай бұрын
Harry is so knowledgeable and is always able to explain it so well. Thank you, Harry 👍👍👍
@Tonaka656
@Tonaka656 10 ай бұрын
There's a massive mis-match between what they are producing and what people want. Real working people haven't got wheelbarrows of cash they can afford to lose in massive depreciation, let alone the cost of a new vehicle these days.
@barry5138
@barry5138 10 ай бұрын
That's the hook, they don't want normal people to have private transport.
@edwarddelderfield
@edwarddelderfield 10 ай бұрын
How can Harry not be an advisor to the Government and industry. Outstanding explanation.
@eoinoconnell185
@eoinoconnell185 10 ай бұрын
Government don't want advisors to tell them the truth. They want advisors to tell them what they want to hear to justify policy decisions.
@johnbeckett2624
@johnbeckett2624 10 ай бұрын
Probably because Harry says things that most Politicians and Government don't want to hear.
@electricfelix
@electricfelix 10 ай бұрын
because he is factually incorect #alwaysbecharging
@davepax982
@davepax982 10 ай бұрын
*incorrect 😅​@@electricfelix
@pachy444
@pachy444 10 ай бұрын
It's not an explanation, all he did was try to justify why he's getting a Diesel RR sport 😂
@peter1317
@peter1317 Ай бұрын
my 20 year Lexus is200 ,6 speed manual , is going better than ever. Carbon foot print long forgotten.
@pault7977
@pault7977 10 ай бұрын
24:43 I've been saying the same thing. Though you end with saying "replacing EVERY ICE car with an EV will save just 7% of total emissions'. Its probably less than that when you factor in where the electricity is coming from and how it's produced. The supply chain for the battery minerals and shipping of battery packs will further degrade that CO2 percentage.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 10 ай бұрын
China is just producing the CO2 so it isn't produced in the UK, it isn't gone, just moved.
@michaelopere5424
@michaelopere5424 10 ай бұрын
It will probably reduce to less than 2 percent in emissions savings when you factor in the deployment of the huge diesel earth movers,giant trucks,cranes support vehicles,air compressors and water pumps that are a necessities in any mining operation .
@Aaron-zh7qm
@Aaron-zh7qm 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelopere5424yet somehow there are EV lunatics who think EVs should be only cars on the road right now
@joekrepps
@joekrepps 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelopere5424Well said and NOBODY is talking about the human cost-the slave labor and child labor used in 3rd World Countries to extract cobalt and lithium. We’re damn sure not saving _their_ world. But, hey, as long as I can look down my nose at petrol vehicles, who cares how many people died to make it happen???
@michaelopere5424
@michaelopere5424 10 ай бұрын
@@Aaron-zh7qm The E-vangelists and members of 'Just stop oil' are nothing but a bunch of deluded cult members.Two motoring journalists recently made a 900km road trip from Melbourne to Sydney,their cars of choice were a BMW 740i and an i7,132 Australian dollars was spent to charge the i7 while the 740i was filled with fuel worth 118 Australian dollars,the electric vehicle took two hours to charge while the 740i did not require any refueling throughout the journey.
@stephengirling7859
@stephengirling7859 10 ай бұрын
It's almost as if they don't want us 'peasants' driving cars anymore. But i'm sure you'll be fine Harry.
@shadowx2k2007
@shadowx2k2007 10 ай бұрын
Actually, if you live in London then you will know that "they" don't!
@mariemccann5895
@mariemccann5895 10 ай бұрын
@@shadowx2k2007 Eh?
@mrfixit2788
@mrfixit2788 10 ай бұрын
WEF 15 minute living zones
@Winston.S.1984
@Winston.S.1984 10 ай бұрын
Harry, you're a Legend 👏This video needs to go viral!
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644
@charlesrossbaronofbiggar1644 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@pachy444
@pachy444 10 ай бұрын
It's hardly breaking news that people want to keep driving big SUV Diesels..... That's why the government have had to legislate
@meofnz2320
@meofnz2320 10 ай бұрын
Why does it need to go viral? Because you have an irrational persecution complex?
@EP-bb1rm
@EP-bb1rm 10 ай бұрын
If it goes viral then he'll be fzct checked and realise half the stuff is factually incorrect.
@davidlutton4560
@davidlutton4560 4 ай бұрын
One of the most, if not THE most, informative and interesting analysis of the EV car market. Well done to you sir. I recently dipped my toe into the MHEV market, having traded in my much-lamented family diesel. Your video has utterly convinced me of the error of my ways. Thanks again for your straightforward and easy-to-understand delivery on a subject that has largely baffled the private car-buying public. Best wishes with your fabulous Range Rover Sport diesel. A very smart choice indeed......and I'm with you all the way on the rationale behind your decision. Take care for now.
@darrylcoombes8334
@darrylcoombes8334 10 ай бұрын
One of your best videos. Very informative and so much common sense discussed. Thank you Harry.
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 10 ай бұрын
Common sense… lol 😂
@dugandav1
@dugandav1 10 ай бұрын
Well researched and measured presentation - Thank you!
@kramnam4716
@kramnam4716 10 ай бұрын
Thank you H for a balanced well researched FACTUAL report . Proper journalism. 😊
@marcusoutdoors4999
@marcusoutdoors4999 25 күн бұрын
My wife recently got a 18 month old Tesla Model 3 dual motor at a 45% discount. I was sceptical, I’m converted. It is night and day better and cheaper than her Audi A4 Allroad. The battery degradation is only 3% on the first 30k miles. The average degradation is about 9% average on several thousand Tesla Model 3 at 5 years and 100,000 miles. Hence why we got a car with a 360 mile range which is possible on the motorway in summer.
@MrFreddan79
@MrFreddan79 10 ай бұрын
Just returned my 2021 Polestar 2 AWD long range. 1. Since delivery the car has been on 17 workshop visits. And finaly one flaw they could not fix, so I returned it. Polestar service has been top notch all the way. But the quality of the car has been so and so. 2. Range by WLTP 447 km. I live in norway and it's really cold 6 months of the year. My last drive started with 85% on the battery, after 171 km I had 8 % left. 3. Battery degredation, say the battery loses 2-3% totalt capasity every year, and in winter with below 0 celsius 15-20%. Usually I charge the car when I get to about 15%. Then I can only charge until 80% on a supercharger. After 80% it takes ages. After 4 years of ownership what will your practical range be? Paid about 50k pounds for the car and I must say paying off a car that gets less and less usable every year just hurts. I now own a 2015 MB E-class 350 CDI 4-matic, just love it. And in 5 years range will still be the same. Over 1000 km. on a single tank.
@dennis3779
@dennis3779 10 ай бұрын
Not only capacity but also resistance for instance but their propaganda does not show you that.
@barry5138
@barry5138 10 ай бұрын
Not being smart here, but many of us knew this reality without 50k investment and a personal experience.
@MrFreddan79
@MrFreddan79 10 ай бұрын
@@barry5138Good for you. Yes, and many did not, including the content creator of this channel. I loved the idea of EVs. Silent running, "gasstation" in my own garage, good for my local enviroment, simplicity of drivetrain (never the problem on Polestar), incredible 4wd and power. The main problem is batterytech not being mature enough.
@bsimpson6204
@bsimpson6204 10 ай бұрын
@@MrFreddan79 I need benefits from changing to electric not a list of minuses and that’s why EV sales have hit a stone wall and why none of my family and friends own an EV.
@MrFreddan79
@MrFreddan79 10 ай бұрын
@@bsimpson6204 yes, and I will probably go electric again once batterytech is better. Electric motors are superior to ICE, just needs a better source of power. We still have a 2018 Nissan Leaf in the household. That thing will stay with us forever. As long as range does not drop below 20km.
@Ztandard32
@Ztandard32 10 ай бұрын
These videos are great. The rest of the media are so poor at looking at the numbers. Thank you.
@barrieroberts75
@barrieroberts75 10 ай бұрын
The " Media " report as their masters direct ( WEF) eat buge and be happy, with all this leasing it fulfills the pledge about owning nothing😮
@tparm
@tparm 10 ай бұрын
This may be the best, most informative, critical video on EVs that I have seen. We all have been thinking it and saying it, the cons are going to outweigh the pros in the long run. Good on you, being a respected motor journalist, talking on this. Toyota needs mentioning as well. Only manufacturer I see talking about the cons of EV.
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 10 ай бұрын
Basically what Toyota said is that don't put all of your eggs in one basket. We want to combat carbon emissions? Then let's actually improve our current technology (ICE) to do even better alongside doing alternative solutions as well whether it's a BEV, PHEV, Hydrogen Fuel Cell, or even sustainable fuels.
@jaynehaffmann3944
@jaynehaffmann3944 8 ай бұрын
We are just about to buy a one year old diesel defender 110 d300. We were looking at hybrid but the servicing costs were 50% higher insurance was higher. We keep our cars for for a long time and were told probably need new batteries after 7 years at a cost of 15k so we decided to wait for a few years for the better battery performance tech! We also drive in spain and dragging a heavy battery around when you can’t charge it anywhere it was just inefficient for our needs.
@robertmarr8991
@robertmarr8991 10 ай бұрын
Everyone should watch this video.Very educational Harry and a real eye opener.Cheers
@tassos2011
@tassos2011 10 ай бұрын
Best video I’ve seen from Harry and elsewhere. Full of actual and very interesting facts. This should be played in front of every politician in the UK and EU.
@Argiers
@Argiers 10 ай бұрын
Another superb video, Harry. I'm fed up having EV smoke and mirrors being forced down my throat. I'm also grateful for the opportunity to admire your Range Rover for 28 minutes! Best colour/wheel combination I've ever seen on one!
@snail415
@snail415 10 ай бұрын
I read ‘EV smoke’ and lost it before the underdeveloped side of my brain caught-up. Well-done! 😂
@dangrass
@dangrass 10 ай бұрын
smoke and mirrors? Have you actually driven one?
@snail415
@snail415 10 ай бұрын
@@dangrass EV SMOKE.
@davidm-1965tb
@davidm-1965tb 10 ай бұрын
@@dangrassyes. And will not be replacing with ev again!
@hughmann1908
@hughmann1908 8 ай бұрын
I think the title Perfectly reflects what’s going on with cars these days! Well done! I am waiting for performance EV’s to hit “appliance” pricing, then jumping in. This is the best EV and car review so far! Electric cars are like PC’s of 2010
@itsallrobbish
@itsallrobbish 10 ай бұрын
Wow, what a great insight! My 2017, 75mpg, Honda Civic does me fine. Quiet on the move, smooth, decent room, massive boot and great build quality, without any squeaks or rattles, it costs me pennies to run, no car tax and the value went up for two years and is only coming down as I put the miles on. I have had one glow plug go and have just changed oil and filters, 4 tyres, a battery and a set of discs and pads in the 3 years I have had it. The glow plug and battery were originals. It has just done 94000 miles (I've put 50k on it), the best value car I have ever had. I paid £8500 in 2020 and they are still describing them on Autotrader as 'a good price' for a similar 2017 90K + mileage at £7495...bonkers! I'll keep this until it falls apart, which will take it forever, it seems. Now that, is efficiency. I'm not against electric, but until the running costs and depreciation come down near my Honda, I'll stick to a more conventional vehicle.
@davidpails901
@davidpails901 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2003 Honda Accord Tourer 2.4 petrol. Bought it at 4 years old for just over £10,000 36000 miles on the clock. At 118000 miles still going strong. I have it serviced annually just needed new alternator, usual brakes pads etc. exhaust and everything still works fine. Comfortable, fast and not a squeak. It's cost me next to nothing to run over the 16 years I have had it, been everywhere with the family, loads of stuff, fridges, cookers, cupboards and surely fairly environmentally efficient? I loved cars but the price and over complicated nature of them now puts me off. Great episode
@marlasota
@marlasota 10 ай бұрын
​@@davidpails901 So you drove 82,000 miles which coverts to 132,000 km. Honda Accord burns 8.4 litres of petrol per 100km in mixed driving, so you used 11,000 litres of petrol. At the price of £1.5 this makes £16,500. Next to nothing, right? Now with 282g/km of CO2 emissions you emitted 37 tons of CO2 driving your fossil car.
@jonathanelliott-bateman5448
@jonathanelliott-bateman5448 10 ай бұрын
Indavidual with the calculator. Trees eat the CO2 daily. His 11000 litres of fossel fuel is now a part of the hedge row and local forest! Oh yeah and the kale you eat for breakfast!
@Gr1mPenguin
@Gr1mPenguin 10 ай бұрын
This used bubble never existed back then, market is crazy since a few years, so i'm happy for you but don't base your expectations off that.
@Gr1mPenguin
@Gr1mPenguin 10 ай бұрын
@@jonathanelliott-bateman5448 Well, there's more CO2 and less trees
@RichPober
@RichPober 10 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis - car manufacturers take note: Regulatory Requirements do not equal Customer Requirements Products that do not meet Customer Requirements = Products that are not marketable
@hugomeersman3700
@hugomeersman3700 10 ай бұрын
Dear Harry, I've always thought very highly of you, but this decision makes you a superhero in my eyes. Well done!
@Brawhammer
@Brawhammer 8 ай бұрын
Incredibly well put together, glad I've seen this video now before going down the EV Route. The details on the range is staggering.
@daddybob6096
@daddybob6096 10 ай бұрын
Hello from New Zealand Harry. Today February 15th 2024, Simon Barnett a host on Newstalk ZB, New Zealand , mentioned you and your views on EVs. Before this i had never heard of you, so after listening to your very logical and practical viewpoint on modern cars, i am going to subscribe to your channel. I can't afford a diesel Range Rover, such as you show here, but would love one, my favourite car. God bless you Sir, and lovely to have made your acquaintance. Robert. (83). NZ Veteran.
@gpsfinancial6988
@gpsfinancial6988 5 ай бұрын
There are lots of cheap Range Rovers on Trademe Robert.
@matthewwatkins135
@matthewwatkins135 10 ай бұрын
Finally...someone talking about battery degradation! It's as if the manufacturers don't want you to know about it, but anyone who owns an iPhone (or any other battery operated device) will know that the more charge cycles the battery goes through, the more degraded it will become. At least with an iPhone (other manufacturers are available), there's a screen that tells you the degradation in an easy to digest % format.
@ClarenceDold
@ClarenceDold 10 ай бұрын
Except for Nissan, right there on the dash. I even see pictures labeled "battery health" in the Carvana listings in the US.
@matthewgallagher4913
@matthewgallagher4913 10 ай бұрын
One thing you missed.Harry is that replacement batteries need to be made available at reasonable cost. A replacement leaf battery is 2.5k in Japan, and 10k in the UK.
@chrishaidinyak4621
@chrishaidinyak4621 8 ай бұрын
Hats off to this gentleman's effort; I agree with his sentiment. I have three diesels: 2002 Excursion, 2013 VW Golf and 2015 VW Passat and I love all of them, For me, it is infuriating that the price of diesel is artificially held high here in NY even though the distillation process for diesel is cheaper than petrol. Here in upstate NY it regularly gets into the single digits over night and I would hate to think how an electric vehicle would fare if left outside for the winter and charged outside would be like. I don't know other people's experiences with electric and whether keeping them garaged overnight makes a difference in range but many people either don't have that luxury or desire to keep their vehicles inside overnight. I think industry needs to solve the vacation driving charging problem (ie fast replaceable battery packs) and the basic range problem across temperature extremes. Thanks for the great video.
@nednash8649
@nednash8649 10 ай бұрын
Analysis like this makes it easy to see why Harry was such a successful businessman. Quite a powerful presentation.
@1960bosman
@1960bosman 10 ай бұрын
I was seriously considering purchasing an EV but had some hesitation, particularly around future resale value. EV's are still rapidly evolving and you are spot on about buying current EV technology when it will soon be replaced by better technology. This video made so many solid points, I won't be buying electric (or PHEV) I'll be sticking with diesel or petrol.
@exsoulagent
@exsoulagent 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone who has the balls to call out why EV’s aren’t the best option no matter what Billy Bullshit Government officials come out with. Keep up the great work
@DAVIDE-bk8by
@DAVIDE-bk8by 10 ай бұрын
Plenty of the other channels doing the same for ages...'Geoff Buys Cars' for example
@geebee6737
@geebee6737 10 ай бұрын
@@DAVIDE-bk8by Geoff Buys Cars just jumped on the MacMaster bandwagon.....those that are savvy already knew this EV dream was exactly that , a dream 🤣
@danharold3087
@danharold3087 10 ай бұрын
He said they are making the wrong cars. Because we can build powerful EVs does not mean that is the only sort we should be making. I agree. Love or Hate Tesla they are still leading the pack in most aspects of EVs.
@ianthompson2516
@ianthompson2516 10 ай бұрын
Charge at home £5.77 for 250 miles what is not to like plus de-seisel particulates and asthma and climate change ffs
@Nordjyden9000
@Nordjyden9000 10 ай бұрын
@@ianthompson2516 The price of energy is set by political reasons. Diesel particles is not a problem anymore. Climate change is a natural thing, and there is no climate-crisis. Some diesels, Mercedes is one of them, emit pure breathable air . A Mercedes EV in Germany, is powered by electricity made by burning lignite, the most polluting fuel known, except for burning used tires.
@BoStanfordify
@BoStanfordify 8 ай бұрын
You can see battery health on iphones already. Carmakers should absolutely give you that number
@probono3284
@probono3284 10 ай бұрын
How refreshing to hear such sense spoken about EV's for a change. Harry for Minister of Transport!
@jonasweber9408
@jonasweber9408 8 ай бұрын
So you take seriously an old dude in front of a Lamborghini Countach complaining that “it’s too expensive”? Complaining about car efficiency while driving a Range Rover? 7% may not be enough to justify the little discomfort he has to go through of having to wait more time at a charger but for the 8 billion people not as old as him it will be a question of life and death… Mate he’s in no position to lecture the public about cars.
@bootburner4544
@bootburner4544 8 ай бұрын
@@jonasweber9408 Man! You've really gulped down that Koolaid. Read what 2000 scientists at the Clintel group have to say.
@markygee79
@markygee79 10 ай бұрын
Harry Metcalfe Automotive scholar. Every single point, on point.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 10 ай бұрын
Almost. To preserve his 687K subs he's skirting around the truth. And I'd do the same thing. But the truth is: the politicians are but just puppets of Unelected and Unregulated Eurocrats in Geneva. It's their agenda that's being enforced. The very same people who created CBDC's, who aim for blanket UBI (Universal Basic Income). ......
@jayb2617
@jayb2617 10 ай бұрын
all very valid points Harry, one you might have missed out is that not all garages will want to/can repair them as they will never have staff that are electricians and are willing to take on the risks involved with working on them so your local friendly garage will have to be replaced by main dealers at the main dealer prices which normal drivers can not afford to use.
@adamfry1125
@adamfry1125 10 ай бұрын
Good job there are minimal moving parts in the powertrain to go wrong then isn't it. All parts outside that of the powertrain are 12v shared parts/suspension/steering/trim the same as all cars however they are powered.
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 10 ай бұрын
​@@adamfry1125the car still needs to go to a body shop if it's had a bump or a crash etc. They're a pain in the arse to work on as you need to power them down before doing anything & there's a huge fire risk from the batteries so the liability insurance of the garage increases hugely
@davidhinkson8856
@davidhinkson8856 10 ай бұрын
I can see that becoming an issue when the cars come off lease and owners don't necessarily go back to a main dealer for service.
@PhineasPhlob
@PhineasPhlob 10 ай бұрын
If there is money to be made on EV servicing / repair then someone will step in. It might not be cheap to start with but supply will meet demand.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 10 ай бұрын
Maybe eventually, but that's not going to happen overnight. Meanwhile the value of second-hand EVs plummet because buyers don't want the cot and hassle that goes with them.@@PhineasPhlob
@afterisforever
@afterisforever 4 ай бұрын
What an excellent video Sir, thank you for making so many great points.
@Fredcat-6
@Fredcat-6 10 ай бұрын
It’s a breath of fresh air to get unbiased views on this subject. Mainstream media is influenced by advertising and has to quote the politically correct net zero agenda. Well said Harry!
@ianthompson2516
@ianthompson2516 10 ай бұрын
It ain't fresh whilst dinosaur juice guzzlers are on the road spewing god knows what into the air
@lucaandreamifsudbuhagiar9375
@lucaandreamifsudbuhagiar9375 10 ай бұрын
You're sure about that? I've seen quite the contrary from the media, spinning every EV story as clickbait.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 10 ай бұрын
The net zero agenda is absolutely essential is we are to avoid killing our grandchildren. That is not PC, it is a no brainer.
@gerardbooth40
@gerardbooth40 10 ай бұрын
Terrific, factual content. Every motorist should watch this and start to educate themselves. Harry for Transport Minister!
@keefr22
@keefr22 10 ай бұрын
Every politician should watch it!
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich 10 ай бұрын
And every non motorist as well.
@delewan
@delewan 10 ай бұрын
Non sensationalized, rational, factual discussion from someone who practices sustainability but is also grounded in reality. Thank you for this. I work in the classic car industry, but I'm not anti-EV, they have their place but also have a lot of room for improvement. I believe we absolutely need to work hard at reducing emissions globally, but we seem to be focusing on the minutia rather than the big picture.
@testpilotian3188
@testpilotian3188 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, replacing every privately owned ICE car in the country with an EV won’t make a jot of difference to the overall pollution because personal journeys make up such a small percentage of transport pollution compared to the overall figure that we won’t notice at all.
@clonmore819
@clonmore819 10 ай бұрын
" believe we absolutely need to work hard at reducing emissions globally," go preach to China
@83leeb
@83leeb 8 ай бұрын
Bjorn does have some great videos. Very informative
@johnfrench9608
@johnfrench9608 10 ай бұрын
Very well put Harry. Part of the problem also is manufacturers are constantly looking for ways to charge more for their products they have no interest in making cheap cars as their is no money in it. So we end up with massive expensive inefficient tanks.
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 10 ай бұрын
Once again, the invisible hand of the market has shown us the way. No amount of government arm twisting is going to make products people don’t want to buy, appealing. Nice job as always, from the USA 🇺🇸
@MyUniversalUniversity
@MyUniversalUniversity 10 ай бұрын
We sold 1.2 million EV last year in the US. People want EV's!!!!
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 10 ай бұрын
How many would have sold without tax incentives?
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 10 ай бұрын
Diesel is problem when its used by everyone including stupid selfish cheapskates in cities with DPF removed, no AdBlue meaning all those idiots poison themselves, their children and everyone around with something worse than secondary smoking literarily giving everyone cancer. I am fine with people who get modern diesels and use them as they should, mostly for long distance trips and it has all the means to neutralize the nasty things it creates.
@tonyr33
@tonyr33 10 ай бұрын
@@MyUniversalUniversity Total US car sales were 15.5 million, so apparently 1 of 13 people want EV, with your four exclamation points!!!!
@qbi4614
@qbi4614 10 ай бұрын
@@MyUniversalUniversity Read tony33's comment, with four exclamation points!!!!
@dj_paultuk7052
@dj_paultuk7052 10 ай бұрын
Another issue is insurance. My boss has a Tesla model3, and his insurance is currently £2,100, for a 48 year old guy. Hes done with it and currently trying to sell it. This is due to parts supply and Tesla's being written off for just a light nudge.
@MyMednas
@MyMednas 10 ай бұрын
That's a problem with Tesla. Plenty of much nicer EVs out now.
@vandamonium1731
@vandamonium1731 10 ай бұрын
Its not just due to parts supply its to do with the costs involved in labour charges... guy across from me has got a tesla and his door got scuffed and he had to take it to a body shop 137miles away as they were trained to deal with it
@nealm1814
@nealm1814 10 ай бұрын
@@vandamonium1731 I'm calling BS on that. Any competent body shop can deal with a scuffed door.
@SimonLloydGuitar
@SimonLloydGuitar 10 ай бұрын
I would agree with you except the door may need to be removed or dismantled. If so, it will a dodecahedral hinge on the door, very complex electronics inside the door card, sensors, cameras, motors..and of course, everything will need to be recoded and that can only be done by an agent with unobtainable software and special Obd type port etc etc @@nealm1814
@possle
@possle 10 ай бұрын
insurance companies having to store EV away from ICE due to the risk of spontaneous combustion after an accident isn't helping
@juiceqc7716
@juiceqc7716 7 ай бұрын
I am self employed. I am not buying right now because the Government has made driving a mechanism for revenue collection. Parking: impossible. Cost of fuel (incl.) tax: massive. Road tax. Speed restrictions. Politicians just hate the freedom that the ICE gave people.
@faustinpippin9208
@faustinpippin9208 5 ай бұрын
Its godne get only worse in The future you wont be allowed to drive at all.
@jeanlucbergman479
@jeanlucbergman479 8 ай бұрын
No idea who you were or what this channel was, but subbed immediately for the common sense approach to a lot of these issues. Such a breath of fresh air.
@stevejacob4375
@stevejacob4375 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Harry for speaking out and telling it the way it is.
@ianthompson2516
@ianthompson2516 10 ай бұрын
Yes evs are the devil's work de-seisel particulates are the future 😢
@Y2Kvids
@Y2Kvids 10 ай бұрын
Old folks ruining Young people lives and environment since ages .
@claudiumxg1
@claudiumxg1 10 ай бұрын
But not as presented here lol
@stephenbennett3330
@stephenbennett3330 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant Harry, you put succinctly what I thought to be true and will share with family and friends who don't think these things through.
@dirkjordy9point714
@dirkjordy9point714 10 ай бұрын
Have an Ioniq 5 for a company car. Love it. Does what it does very well. Comfortable, different to drive to ICE, but in a decent enough way. Cheap on BIK etc. live rurally and travelled all over remote parts of the country and never found charging or range anxiety a problem either. But, have always said, would I buy and run one privately? No, I wouldn't.
@kevinashurst634
@kevinashurst634 10 ай бұрын
why not? As you have experienced there is nothing difficult about it
@deltabravosierra6986
@deltabravosierra6986 10 ай бұрын
Rampant depreciation that is yours to personally enjoy???
@Digojaim
@Digojaim 10 ай бұрын
because people buy to save money, not the environment @@kevinashurst634
@karlhulme8014
@karlhulme8014 7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard people say the Ioniq 5 can be easily stolen with a simple Bluetooth device…. Not sure how this works but on the video I saw it took about 5 seconds.
@stevieparkinson997
@stevieparkinson997 6 ай бұрын
Great content Harry- few additional pieces of information for everyone regarding EV's- to meet targets to change over half the worlds fleet of private cars we need to produce 3.5 Trillion batteries ( and they were out and need replaced). It is also 600% more mineral intensive to produce and EV than an internal combustion engine car mainly down to the batteries . We need optionality!!! and to count!
My scorpion was taken away from me 😢
00:55
TyphoonFast 5
Рет қаралды 2,7 МЛН
Арыстанның айқасы, Тәуіржанның шайқасы!
25:51
QosLike / ҚосЛайк / Косылайық
Рет қаралды 700 М.
How A Top Gear Review Made Tesla Sue Jeremy Clarkson
14:51
Phat Memer
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН
It Turns Out, Hybrids Are Really Hard On Engines
12:26
Engineering Explained
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
Edd China Reveals the Shocking Truth About EV Battery Repair
19:52
L322 Range Rover TDV8 long-term update. Is this peak Range Rover?
28:48
Harry's garage
Рет қаралды 2,3 МЛН
James May finally drives the Tesla Cybertruck
14:15
James May’s Planet Gin
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
My scorpion was taken away from me 😢
00:55
TyphoonFast 5
Рет қаралды 2,7 МЛН