"Why So Many Men in the US Have Stopped Working"

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[@saturn580]

It's not that the drugs, prawn and video-games are too good to resist, it's that young men's lives have been made so hopeless and devoid of meaning that any form of escapism is preferable.

[@vex6559]

...and we're not even allowed that increasingly. Can't have hot hoochies in games, can't use certain risque search terms without getting the finger wag on the hub, and drugs...well, who wouldn't want to be able to feel good for once? I hate that most drugs exist, but after some deeper downs in life, I can understand why people turn to them. When your existence feels dull, you feel powerless, etc, etc...living to work to have little if anything you wanted in return for your sacrifice...a cheap thrill seems reasonable, until it becomes the devil on your shoulder

[@lairdsmith9608]

You hit the nail on the head

[@RobertLutece909]

Yeah. The anti-pron people are confusing cause and effect.

[@JadePorcupine-ir5rj]

This right here

[@jeremylewis5551]

Many of us try to find a successful path, but after cycles of years of investment only to end in being abused, exploit or to find out the advice was made up from intention all lies, some people give up.

[@gamerboyz2024]

No point worrying. Let the women work. It's their turn to shoulder society for once

[@chintz7428]

They have maxed out the credit card of society

[@dragonknightleader1]

That's definitely what corporations want since they are biased towards women.

[@lairdsmith9608]

I agree but the noise they can make will send us mad

[@1simo93521]

​@@lairdsmith9608that's why I don't watch modern movies, TV, news, or newspapers. Suddenly I'm much happier all the time.

[@bobdike1850]

as long as you are aware the end result of this is that society collapses and prepare accordingly

[@jackdeniston6150]

Always the wrong question. Why would Men work?

[@BillyTheBuffalo34]

Exactly. I am 47 and I don’t blame any young man telling the system F U after the horror show I been through in corporate America for decades now. They should just keep doing what they are doing. Boomers will won’t get it because they had it easy

[@eliasadam2345]

@@BillyTheBuffalo34 They didn't have it easy growing up, most boomers I know had to bunk with a brother or sister, no TV in each room like the Millennials mostly got their own rooms plus TV plus a gaming system. But yeah, there was way more opportunity in the job market and costs of important purchases like cars and houses were way better priced for them than how we have it now. Few Gen Z'ers will probably own homes.,

[@alejmc]

@@eliasadam2345 ​​⁠agreed with the “didn’t have it easy” part. Plus way closer multiple encounters with wars. However, we do still bunk in a sense… with roommates up until the late 40s for many, hyper crowded buses and subways or the all time favorite traffic jams. Definitely a more convenient life by all metrics overall: phone, internet, you name it… but paying handsomely nevertheless.

[@faller006]

​@@eliasadam2345I mean that's kind of what OP was saying. Job opportunities going down and inflation skyrocketing while our boomer parents who had it easy were able to keep us distracted and distanced in our childhood with gaming systems

[@eliasadam2345]

@@alejmc Yeah, the opportunities for the younger generations were not close to what Boomers got when they hit their 30s. Same comparison you made for the WW2 generation. My Grandfather nearly got depth charged to death 4 times in the Pacific. Also got called back for Korea, although he wasn't forced to go. But he bought a house at age 23 for next to nothing and was immediately able to start a family. But, the Gen X'ers and Millennials that serve in the military have been fighting proxy wars since their 20s. Only they weren't forced into service to do it like the older generations.

[@unkono]

Society is built apon the hopeful naive and oblivious man getting screwed.

[@jackdeniston6150]

Best thing about tinternet, Men can talk again. Burn naivete

[@S1000xrhp]

Our forefathers only had a buddy or two at the pub and they all moaned about the same thing. I guess they felt that they were just unlucky, not all marriages were like theirs. The www opened our eyes, we saw how our fathers were treated and that just got worse thought the 80's till today. We now see that it's just the lucky ones that find a good, level headed woman. Pity your brothers that hook up with the cyclically mad, over-emotional, bitches that destroy men's lives and families. At least now we have a broader perspective now upon which to see the beast for what she is.

[@skylinefever]

The real reason red pill pisses off the establishment.

[@zetamale7952]

Society was going to hell in a handbasket when metoo was invented in 2006 which put society into rapid erosion mode. Society is in the process of crashing right now. It will pick up speed over the next year or two.

[@adamjames1375]

If Donkey doesn't get the carrot... Donkey don't Donkey.

[@jaredcleevy6667]

We worked for a future. Take away our future, we will not work. I will not work for nothing

[@user-bl6yi4rs3v]

If these jobs dont pay enough to buy a decent house and land and take vacations, whats the point? Fuck em

[@jaredcleevy6667]

@@user-bl6yi4rs3v exactly

[@rogueranger7989]

⭐️ Absolutely!! ⭐️

[@zugdigitalx]

I mean. I like food, so theres that, but i wouldnt go above and beyond for a company ​@user-bl6yi4rs3v

[@jeffgreer198613]

But where will you live?

[@pauliusvismantas2859]

people realise that there is no point to work more, since they will not be able to own anything significant anyway

[@Navy35]

Especially when the government just takes more of your money. Overtime isn’t worth it

[@adamjames1375]

Workings for homeowners with families & people genuinely interested in their field. The rest is terrible.

[@MustafaKulle]

Men are denied work because of HR departments. Tell me how that's not a human rights violation.

[@darkgardener9577]

And because government authoritarianism.....can't work for yourself, you don't have a 50 billion dollar license that's essentially impossible for anyone other than the initial 4 permits issued (free of charge of course) to touch the industry/market. But also capitalism is the problem....LOL

[@theLandJackal]

"White Men are denied work because of HR departments." There, I fixed it for you. #Trump2024

[@vampire_kiril]

its even worse than that. I pass through HR girls, then the hiring manager just wants to hire some stacey.

[@zetamale7952]

It is. Lawsuits need to be filed on it. Since the invent of metoo in 2006, this nation has taken an increasingly rapid downturn.

[@vampire_kiril]

@@zetamale7952 we dropping out and crashing the economy is worse than any lawsuit

[@wiktorwektor123]

It's about time women become net positive taxpayers and men become net negative.

[@zetamale7952]

Substantially reduced my tax base by retiring from the more screwed up everyday workforce. I don't make squat now but here I am NOT dealing with the BS in that screwed up workforce. Did I mention how screwed up the workforce is?

[@BarfingGerbil]

Women have been net economic negatives as long as there have been women. Women consume more than they produce.

[@canadiansoviet]

Why not?

[@canadiansoviet]

​@@zetamale7952 Did the exact same thing. Part-time gig work now and live like a bum. The work place is like prison now

[@user-bl6yi4rs3v]

@@zetamale7952 Im in the same boat, i had it out with my last employer and caught them off guard when I told them to lay me off because ill make more money and not deal with their boomer bullshit.

[@jeffstearns9056]

I remember bragging about working 60 hours or more a week. Pride no longer persists.

[@solinvictus39]

Working yourself to death is no life. Work to live, don't live to work.

[@watamutha]

Rewards no longer exist too.

[@extra-samsaric3836]

People who brag about working a lot, to me are like a slave in the antebellum South, standing on the auction block, saying " feel my arms, look at my muscles massa, ooh I can work hard for ya massa." 😂😂

[@johnjohnii5849]

I ran a business from 17 to 27. After high-school graduation it was regularly 70-80 hour weeks. There's a much easier life. Now I work 40 hr weeks, take a little OT here and there and run a side business fixing mowers, something I enjoy doing when I'm not doing it for 80 hours a week.

[@shawn576]

You can still work lots so you can invest lots. It's unbelievable how much you can accumulate in 10 years.

[@demonicaxeman7264]

I spent all of my 20's working. After my job of 10 years set me up and fired me last October, I'm just living on Unemployment. I'm just indulging in my hobbies. I have until November with my Unemployment and the world might end before that time, so I'm just living in the moment right now. I'm 36 and I no longer care about working for the man.

[@Joutube_is_trash]

Depending on how bad it gets you may be set for a while. I was on unemployment in highschool, after a year when I was cut off they surveyed the area and came to the conclusion that there were no jobs and started giving me benefits again with zero interaction on my end, just got the mail one day and the govt. Teet was leaking again. Enjoy it while you can we technically already paid for it.

[@vikker8274]

You need to come up with some type of “mental” disability

[@sloppyfloppy79]

Unemployment, the poor man's vacation fund

[@adamjames1375]

I'm in a similar situation at 38. Look Into going to school...there's some stipulations but if you're enrolled full time in school you can extend unemployment to 2 years, possibly more in some cases. Pretty sure you can do online school, otherwise go to a community college & take anything you're interested in. There's some Grant's out there for tuition & stuff too. (Even for Honkey men!) My brother did it twice & I'm just getting the ball rolling now. Look into it man, there's a bunch of different ways to really stretch that buck.

[@BarfingGerbil]

I've known hundreds of people and thousands of men who worked their 20's and 30's away (sometimes 40's, occasionally 50's) who were then just fired and thrown away. I've read of milions of times more. Never, ever make your job your priority in life, and never put any faith or honor into any company anywhere (unless you own the company). The only career that matters is the one you were born with.

[@solinvictus39]

Simply put, take the loyal wife and family out of the picture and men generally lose the motivation to work hard or beyond what is absolutely necessary.

[@Manno200]

“Praise the Lord!”🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@genxtechguy]

😂 “loyal wife” …. Yep, this is true. Although, I am dedicated to making the necessary money to have a good retirement.

[@Gizziiusa]

all by design. there is an agenda at play.

[@davestuddert4392]

Spot on!!

[@davidu8688]

This is true. If I didnt have a daughter I probably would not work anymore.

[@cheeseface6328]

Another woman left for some other guy. I might never own a house. Stuck in a loop of work, high rent prices, car payments, expensive groceries. Wake up alone, work, come home to an empty apartment... I work 50-60 hours per week but I completely understand any man who chooses not to. What's the point?

[@JoshB-fp1qv]

Dude, same. Exactly the same. I'm only hanging on because I know one day it's all coming down and I wanna gloat. If the rest of my life was this I'd end it.

[@cheeseface6328]

@@JoshB-fp1qv I got to the point of almost "self ending." I gave my life to God and committed to struggling through it all. Reading the lives of the Saints can be edifying, whether you believe of not. Men who, throughout the centuries, gave up everything, lived celibate lives and discussed philosophy/theology while battling against sin

[@butwhole4186]

​@cheeseface6328 That's what i was doing, but supporting a fat bith. 4 years ago.

[@harlzberg6068]

Because other people around the world are less fortunate believe it or not. Trade places with someone in a 3rd world country, this is why America is looked at like a bunch of softies. Wah, I Have everything at my fingertips and would rather wine and complain about my bad choices of women.

[@markremy4946]

Can't you get a roommate to help with bills?

[@nomadih2252]

Women are the primary consumer, men are the primary earner. If women now earn, men no longer need to.

[@noahbrown4388]

Drizzle drizzle 😎

[@beloved-child]

Men are no longer the primary earners or home owners. And if vv0m3n are the majority homeowners now, then within short time c0rp will just own everything. They all will refinance their mortgages and risk bankruptcy and foreclosure for the next status symbol or trendy useless thing that advertisers want to sell to them. Also it's like 70% of people earning 6 figure incomes living paycheck to paycheck, and if data from only vv0m3n 6 figure earners goes up to over 90%

[@CF.]

That’s a fair assessment. 👏

[@beloved-child]

304s spend or are spent on by 80% of the total economy. Most men aren't getting any return on their investment

[@celestial_s]

One of the biggest mistake was giving women equal rights

[@globalnomad1221]

Once I realized I would never be respected, I left the west game….

[@John_Wood_]

I remember checking in to hotels in Dubai and Thailand and being treated like a king by the female receptionists. That just would not happen in the west, they wouldn't even look you in the eye in the west.

[@adamjames1375]

​@@John_Wood_ Absolutely, Girls in customer service & retail more often have attitudes. Like I'm bothering them, or otherwise being a pain in the ass beyond their duties. It's subtle but it's there...caught some 'tude the other day at the grocery store because the pretty cashier had to bag my stuff. Asked "how's your day been so far" and got a dismissive "not fast enough" I inquired how much longer she had and she was like irritated I asked. It was like an hour on a 6 hour shift or something. I then replied "that's not so bad" and she just shoots me this beechy look like "yes it is". I get people have bad days, but it's like there's this subtle disdain/attitude that's usually present with most of them.

[@bandolierboy1908]

@@adamjames1375how old was she?

[@adamjames1375]

@@bandolierboy1908 Guessing early/mid twenties

[@steelearmstrong9616]

@@John_Wood_ You we’re treated like one but you weren’t one and they didn’t see yo as one. That’s their Job

[@Dystopian.Future]

F them. Let the Bears and Femnists maintain Societal Infrastructure. In the meantime, anyone wanna play 2k?

[@extra-samsaric3836]

"Bears and feminists" 🤣🤣🤣

[@mirceazaharia2094]

I'd rather mod Rimworld and play that, while I wait for some of the indie titles on my wishlist to come out. Also read and write.

[@spacecowboy9899]

What are the bears?

[@extra-samsaric3836]

@@spacecowboy9899 There was a viral video recently where an interviewer asked women whether they would rather be in the forest with a bear or a man- most of them chose the bear 😂.

[@darth6129]

​@extra-samsaric3836 I legitimately thought he meant fat gay dudes lol.

[@georgeedward1226]

Too much stick, not enough carrot.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

And the stick, might I add, goes straight in the ass as well.

[@Ex4lted_]

Preach 😂

[@frankrizzo5262]

All I heard, the prison guards and warden are wondering why the male prisoners are no longer playing the game of work till you die so that we can pay back all this debt women voted for.

[@zenden6564]

Very succinctly put. Women have created the current socio-economic political situation through their voting Left "progressive" anti-masculine men trends, Western decadence is beyond belief.

[@RobertLutece909]

My question is how many of these "not working" guys are actually working under the table. As the tax burden grows, so does the incentive to evade taxes.

[@timtbone8187]

I know a dude that’s kinda like that. Mainly his girlfriend and parents support him (girlfriend just had a kid with another dude and still staying with him, so don’t go getting envious of him 😂.) loser knows to cause I told him, but noooooo “It’s his family and I need to mind my business!”……….. It doesn’t matter to me if I’m in a relationship or not, I have to work cause I can’t NOT work. I’d go psychotic from the sheer stress of not working and mental overload I would be faced with, so I grind 50-60 hours doing various gigs a week. Would it be easier to hit 60 and would I be happier doing it if I had a wife and kids? Oh hell yea, wanted to be a husband and father ever since I was a kid, but if this is what it is……. Well, save the warm hugs. I’ll warm up with a cup of coffee, an audiobook, a jacket, and the fact that these women are so, just beyond fucked up and unstable, that I’m (aside from 2 friends) am going to be alone for the rest of my life.

[@iamwhoiam7887]

🤚 I haven't paid taxes in years. F off thinking I'm going to give money to you crane or is real.

[@Navy35]

Those jobs are giving to illegals

[@ohjay7612]

Thats me, I work under the table

[@canadiansoviet]

What's working under the table? 😎

[@GiblixStudio]

I'm 40 and was always taught to work hard and meet certain criteria of what "success" was supposed to be according to society. During my 20's I worked in a field that I was good at, but didn't enjoy. Raked in tons of money while working 90 hours a week. Having tons of money is nice, but what use is it when you got no time to spend it. After those hours you're too drained mentally, emotionally and intellectually to do anything in your free time. At 28 I had a burn-out and since then told society to F it. companies don't care about you, governments don't care about you, society doesn't care about you. So focus on yourself. For the past 10 years I've been working 20 hours a week and still make more than enough money to sustain my own hobbies, my bills, pay for all the things my daughter needs and actually have time to enjoy life instead of working myself to death for a bunch of freeloading parasites that don't care about you. They don't just "not care about you" those organizations and people actively go out of their way to spit in our faces. While we're the ones keeping everything going and making their cushy luxurious lives even possible.

[@KNGDDDE]

This part, it's the blatant disrespect for our effort that really irks me. We the Australian guy was talking about "punishing" ppl after the low return rates from post covid employment. Punishing the vast amounts of ppl that for once in they're lives they didn't have to work to live? I was praying the workers of this country would go on strike until employment statuses were net with a COMFORTABLE living wage. The American public will never know its power, even while filling our own oppression.

[@skylinefever]

@@KNGDDDE Many workers try to strike. Then the oligarchy of the donor class buy open borders politics.

[@BarfingGerbil]

Similar thing happened to me, but I was burning out in a psychotic keystone-cops-stupid company that was going "woke" and telling me to my face in meetings they intended to get rid of their white men. They did. After I stopped working for a few months I REALLY woke up one morning and realized that the past 25 years of my life had disappeared in a haze of overwork (which I previously considered "normal"). There's a whole world out here I missed. F them. F it. Regarding work, I'll never be that naive and foolish again for people who would grind me down and throw me away for a buck, and spit on me the entire time.

[@crowsbridge]

I don't even know how I would do this

[@demodiums7216]

Its hilarious that people say this yet still vote Republican lmao

[@theavalanchman]

I found a job in February, four interviews and three months later I still dont know if or when I’m gonna start working. HR is killing people.

[@BarfingGerbil]

HR is a detriment to most companies. They create more problems than they solve.

[@Captain_Jack711]

Because working for corporations really sucks now lol. It was at least tolerable a couple decades ago, but it's been on the downhill for quite some time

[@Stassis]

The soul sucking was one thing, the PC culture is intolerable.

[@BarfingGerbil]

Corporations are psychotic, anti-male, greedy, exploitive, employee-sacrificing, Twilight Zone, hellscapes now. They are completely untrustworthy for a career or your concern. Management is horrible. Avoid corporate work, except possibly as a contractor (even better if remote - offices are snake pits and insane asylums), especially if you are a self-respecting normal white man. They intensely hate them right now.

[@darth6129]

The main character of Fight Club thought he had it bad in the 90s and people related to that 😂

[@beloved-child]

​​@@darth6129 90s was a utopia to this late stage capitalist cesspool we have now. Jobs aren't Even honest about positions or hiring anymore. They're content wasting our time and lives. The reality of how little they respect us as human beings is what made me quit job searching and paying anymore taxes. I'm content being a bum not working then being a bum with a full time job and still unable to afford anything

[@fomoyolo]

@@darth6129r3v0lvti0n is coming, prepare fellas

[@Dissenting_opinion]

Drug use is the response to a problem not the root of it

[@jth_printed_designs]

Bingo. How much drug use would there be if 80+% of men had a wonderful sweet healthy woman that drained his sack every day?

[@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706]

lefty: correlation is not causation xD xD

[@skylinefever]

@@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706 Right wing NPC: Let's flip cause and effect to reach our preferred conclusions.

[@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706]

​@@skylinefever biden: oh yea!? corn pop was a bad dude you lying dog faced pony soldier xD xD

[@Koi_to_Dragon]

@@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706Biden: “America can be defined in a single word….alseitbfkwpqbxbrurbak…excuse me, the foothills in the Himalayas with Xi Jingping.” Audience: 🤔🤨😕🙂😀😃😂🤣😂🤣

[@spot_of_tea53]

I am working 60 hour weeks but just because I get bored sitting at home strokin the tip. No dating, no wife, no kids, no divorce. I have to do something, might as well work. Age 37.

[@jacobg7966]

Working overtime or a second job?

[@kwh6769]

Yeah man I hear that. I have no liabilities at all, work keeps me focused on something positive and productive.

[@siraha4837]

Bro don't get married and no kids, safe your money, have like minded friends and spend your money only on your own go vacation etc.

[@spot_of_tea53]

@@jacobg7966Overtime

[@Blackpilled_Fever_Dream]

I don't mind working, but there is no way I'm working overtime with no family to support. F that!

[@EJK7]

Biggest incentive to work hard is a woman. However, why should we when the quality is so low in the West? As a result, we live minimally and enjoy our hobbies and chill with friends.

[@S1000xrhp]

That's the truth, I willingly, WILLINGLY, worked like a dog for my wife to build a house and home for us and kept at it when the kids arrived because I WANTED to. It was a kind of self-sacrifice but motivated by the love I received back from my wife and children. The motivation was love, it wasn't the roles we played, that came from who was most capable in what was required. But I don't see much love coming from today's women. If there's no spark there's no flame. I don't blame modern men for simply looking after number 1. And when society corrodes and tumbles down - because men will only do only what little they need to do to survive - I hope I'm still here to see how (whatever is left of society) it can motivate men to generate the fruits of production which it has basically taken for granted. You have stuck two fingers up to men thinking everything will be fine, I think men will show you how badly that is going to play out.

[@solinvictus39]

Yep! When I was young and almost married twice (thankfully I called them off) , I worked my ass off for the little (fake) affection I got from women. Now I'm well past middle age, there's absolutely no point in me working myself into an early grave. Never been happier!

[@Joutube_is_trash]

Primarily I'd say the biggest reason is a child, but good luck getting one without having them stolen from and turned against you, or renting a womb. Even then it's still not pragmatic to raise one as a single father.

[@kl7514]

​@@Joutube_is_trashlol yep, not to mention that our gov is controlled by the cashews now and no longer American

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

When $ and women cannot control men look tf out I I’ve always said. This why they are trying to kill mens testosterone levels. They are afraid men will resist and take back what’s been stolen from them.

[@kazuya4289]

working 70 hours a week+ i dont have time for women. I find more happiness in being able to travel and having peace of mind knowing im financially safe.

[@Concerned502]

indeed. You'll lose money chasing women You'll never lose women chasing money.

[@AllegedlyElPresidente.]

*Amen*

[@zetamale7952]

You're on the right track.

[@MetalWolf-xn4kg]

Its pretty simple. Before feminism, men went to work because they believed in their role to provide for family. There was a good incentive for a man to assume the role of husband and father. When feminism entered the landscape, women have made themselves worthless and undesirable for marriage. Men dont desire the role of husband and father anymore, so they dont need to work as much. Its beautiful.

[@lucianocasanova7356]

Not to mention a lot of men, yes, even those outside of the red pill circlejerks are very minimalistic. They just don't make it their entire personality, but a lot of us men, now yeah we like being resourceful don't get me wrong, but if we aquire anything be it a car, a video game or some clothes is because we wanted it, not because we want to impress others, though some can definitely overdo it and the hardcore rabbithole of radical minimalism and honestly more power to them, I noticed a lot of hardcore and radical minimalists are funny targeted hard by these self improvement gurus, a man who's either into simple living or minimalism is seen as this lameball who needs fixing.

[@danny6247]

I can answer why men are not working with one word. WOMEN!!!

[@chrisleearies484]

Women are the reason I got fired from a few jobs, they can never take a harmless joke that wasn't aimed towards them

[@Adam-rz4wr]

I mean, during pandemic people were told they are not "essential" in their face. I'm sure it worked great for their morale.

[@SCAR16L]

In college, I took 100-level courses in both micro and macro economics. This is some "basically high school level" stuff. And the answer is one of the first things covered in a 100-level econ course, when you study the Principles of Economics. "People respond to incentives." It's not rocket science.

[@zenden6564]

Or disincentives...😊

[@luket3452]

No P-sy, no work

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

That’s weak. Pus y shouldn’t affect your working.

[@rogueinvestor2375]

Get a hobby dude.

[@luket3452]

@@rogueinvestor2375 does plowing your mother count?

[@rogueinvestor2375]

@@luket3452 If you want, go ahead. Just know that there are external risks that nobody, myself included, can protect you from.

[@Big_talks.]

@@rogueinvestor2375😂😂😂

[@KimlerYukonix]

Something I learned: Women are told what to do and how to advance in life, Men are told what to avoid.

[@Royan712]

When there is no motivation or purpose left, getting a job is useless.

[@ro6742]

Family Court ALONE is reason enough to stay away.

[@jeran881]

The old conditions are not there. Welcome to the new economy.

[@Toxic_Male_Minimalist]

I completely checked out. Most of my income is under the table/1099 shit. Never going back. I’ll sell shit at a flea market for a living. Idgaf. Thx boomers

[@bblink1457]

I did the same thing I quit my slave job in 2017, just flipping cars and selling stuff at the flea market. I know longer job hunting. I just enjoy what little time I have in this earth

[@darth6129]

Hey man, I love flea markets. Fuck Amazon and Walmart.

[@Toxic_Male_Minimalist]

@@darth6129 same

[@mikefromct5415]

same here never working again for anyone in my life expect myself i am 53

[@thespiritualartofwar]

Men work more when they have a wife (especially feminine) and kids. Men pick up more overtime, work harder for promotions and/or pick up a 2nd job/side business. If a man is single with no kids and sees that prospects of finding a traditional woman is slim...he will than likely become more efficient...live within his means, find a hobby that he enjoys and save money.

[@randyjackson6745]

it doesnt pay to work! work less, live more!

[@BarfingGerbil]

Many jobs cost now more than they pay, or pay so little it's not much different from not working. Things are so bad it's actually more profitable (or less of a loss) in terms of life to NOT work.

[@stonesfan285]

Because pay isn't keeping up with the cost of living. If you drill down in the numbers, most jobs are going to minority women, men are getting very few of the jobs being created.

[@genxtechguy]

DEI does not “include” white men.

[@BarfingGerbil]

The discrimination against men (especially white men) is intense (and completely illegal).

[@BarfingGerbil]

@@genxtechguy DEI was deliberately implemented to exclude whites. Ever see DEI anywhere where there wasn't a white majority? Anywhere?

[@KeithThaStallionAllen]

I found a way and checked out, without actually checking out! I work 3rd shift, by myself, live by myself, and have completely alienated and insulted myself from this society! My worst days are my 2 days off a week that I must engage with society to purchase groceries, PO, traffic, ect! Everytime I make it home from dealing with society, I am just so f#@king angry, I absolutely hate those people ! The irony is I use to refer to myself as Mr Saturaday Night because I loved the crowds so much! We absolutely are NOT in that world anymore and Ive just had to adjust, like any man with common sence!

[@marcmeinzer8859]

You mean “insulated” not “insulted”. But I get it totally. It’s like the entire world has gone down the same drain that got Travis Bickel, the titular taxi driver in TAXI DRIVER.

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

I'm a night guard I have spent ynepast 4 yrs doing lone nights in locked down places I do nothing I mean nothing switch play pc play online movies a nice dinner and sit on my own in offices rooms chill out areas And get paid for it 4 nights on 4 nights off plus full holiday I am no ones kuk

[@genxtechguy]

Let the women work hard and sprinkle on the Drizzle Drizzle.

[@maxhouse1125]

Men are tired of the yellow sprinkle from the women.

[@adamjames1375]

I used to work 40-60+ hours doing carpentry/construction and was just scraping by. Exhausted and beat up every day with little energy for anyghing else. Earned just enough for basic bills & beer. Then I got a girly friend and the birthing control didn't show up to work, twice. So, I got a relatively well paying job at a Union Plant. Working 12 hour swing shifts on 1000 plus degree kilns/ovens with ceramic insulation. Nasty conditions. Significant overtime. She left, lost my kids, house, self respect. Was fired for "safety violations". I'm not happy or proud about it, but I can't see myself ever working hard again. 40 hours on a relatively easy 9-5 is about maxing out from here on out. If that in combination with minimalism can't sustain a reasonable quality of humble living, I'm prepared for an early retirement.

[@midgard8550]

Curious how would you financially survive in early retirement? From SS or do you have a chunk of savings? Just wondering because it seems difficult to retire early

[@adamjames1375]

@@midgard8550 Smith and Wesson retirement plan my friend.

[@Regiom-vp8ju]

⁠@@adamjames1375I have prayed that everything works out for you and you find a surprising will to go after something you become passionate about that It replaces and compensates your past hardships in life!

[@TOOOO9307]

Our problem as modern Western men is we are taught happiness is Wealth, Fame, lots of women, fancy things, always constantly busy & stressed etc. After experiencing all of them things in my 20's and now being 35 l can tell you we have been sold an outright lie, Happiness comes from Peace & accepting this is all temporary. Nothing will ever be Perfect like our media systems make us think they should. Your basically an Advanced Animal living in a Modernized Jungle controlled by Computers run by possibly evil entities.

[@solinvictus39]

You're a smart guy. I didn't come to this realization until my 40s.

[@xandercrew6088]

I’m 30 and had a mini meltdown when I realized we’re all just in a highly evolved zoo lol great example man

[@bobdike1850]

"possibly" we are run by outright fucking demons....

[@steveguse4481]

Tell us more about these evil entities

[@ouch9326]

i realized this around when puberty started , (became a rightist) . i think people do realize sooner but they deny it because everyone else says what their told to say and do, so they decide "im just wrong somehow" . too many people doing this plus lazy and low iq people who didnt realize worsening the norm. the laziness is from people not being required effort per rewarding feeling so, they settle on low quality entertainment . it becomes a habit to worry about what others feel about you to the point where the person is now working for big money mostly for the goal of "social status". culture is full of bikcthy people who have no firends they have quality social status with, friends that are trusting , collborative,long term.... they just pretend liek they care about blacklivesmatter etc . even the sports car market is mostly driven by people who dont enjoy driving much, theyll just acclerate quick in straight line here and there , they dont enjoy driving effciently or driving manual or intentionally loosing traction etc. . you dont need to deal with usual anti family laws: vocational science of freedom how your assets are stolen from birth on odysee instead of youtube or youtube and yandex instead of google etc, matrix (alternative to discor. western governers university, divine speech by nouman ali khan and sharif randhawa says: , morality for happinesss: --one must think his fundamental priorities from most important to least, should be: "prioritize at least basic wellbeing of especially genetically and culturally good people, second priority is existential exploration, then prioritize aesthetics. regularly practice focus on what you did especially the very emotional stuff, anger etc, to make sure your everything will be aligned with your fundamental priorities. get creative. notice: loyalty to rules that are generally likely to work best also create habits that keep one away from harming others for fun even if they realize they can get away with evil sometimes. in natural world order, being less harmful to others is less likely to bring you attacks from others, and its easier to convince people with what is rationally recognizable as good, as long as these other people are capable of realizing. in nature, sexual attraction and cooperation and feeling what the other is feeling, drives care for each other. hugging, feeling liked, etc gives feeling of safety even if irrational . simulate such if you can have such. --most enjoyment is in anticipating reward and memory of the experience so get enough sleep, etc, to remember. when you focus on how time is changing, youll feel the experience is lasting a longer time, thats why sometimes you feel like "oh so much time passed by already?" if you want to remember moments, do it this way. this also shows how that we are pushed to be builders, not animals to live passively . )))) -- people only have a limited amount of exciting or comforting forms of happiness you can ever possibly feel in a moment, at some point of trying to feel more, you wont feel anymore for a while. for example: too much novelty for a while is no longer gonna feel so novel, so decrease novelty. but if youve been bored for a while, youll be re-sensitized to that kind of enjoyment etc. ((((((for example: you should think "I’m putting the effort because I will probably get it, but I’m ready for if it doesn’t work", as stuff like anxiety, depression, anger, etcetera, is apparently designed to make one think of "why am I feeling this way" to motivate improvement. so be aware so you do not get in habit of allowing emotions overwhelm you from logical thinking. so people not liking you doesn't matter as long as your safe in reality. you can enjoy feeling of gained saftey, (comfyness), with other things, even if its a small friend group or even romance simulation. create discomfort then become comforted , like with physical exercise or being cold enough.))))) (((--this practice of resisting from desires , putting high effort, before getting so much reward, will become a subconscious habit where your mind feels reward within every bit of progress made , to make you capable of higher effort, to realize beauty, accomplish stuff,etc. --most enjoyment is in anticipating reward and memory of the experience so get enough sleep, etc, to remember. when you focus on how time is changing, youll feel the experience is lasting a longer time, thats why sometimes you feel like "oh so much time passed by already?", and we tend to be happier because were not feeling bad about bad times , were focused on progressing. if you want to remember moments, do it this way. this also shows how that we are pushed to be builders, not animals to live passively . )))) -- people only have a limited amount of exciting or comforting forms of happiness you can ever possibly feel in a moment, at some point of trying to feel more, you wont feel anymore for a while. for example: too much novelty for a while is no longer gonna feel so novel, so decrease novelty. but if youve been bored for a while, youll be re-sensitized to that kind of enjoyment etc. -- . you can think of your rrelationship with the creator of everything as a mystery game: you have to figure out what to do, so you do what seems rational based on what you were apparently made to do, which is to be happy. .these show that, genes that spread are the ones that help spreading, designing humans to max reproduction, humans were made to be rather morally close to muhammadean islam, a useful culture. although genuine islam is something your population can probably only be 95 percent loyal to, unless you create true belief in its narrative of life after death, because it further increases the level of sacrifice what sometimes is surely to benefit oneself, for wellbeing of each other by mutual support. ways to truly believe in heaven and hell like of islam, probably was the reason for the strong will that created the supposed islamic golden age , ottoman empire, etc, and what is left of such things up to today. such is lost in most even self proclaimed muslims, and the fact that those like the federal reserve live by lucifarianistic world order like that of the anti goyim talmud, instead of using stuff islam to create ideal world order, should be interesting .

[@dilly2000]

I only worked 80 hours a week from 21-36 because I had the illusion of getting married and having kids, and that was one of the main reasons I wanted to become successful.

[@user-bl6yi4rs3v]

Thank you for your slavery

[@improvisedsurvival5967]

It’s not worth it. Enjoy your life. marriage and family isn’t ibeneficial to you. Women are for bedroom fun only.

[@muradshawar]

what changed did you get the wife and kidos . Im 27 and thats what keeps me going in working hard .

[@dilly2000]

@@muradshawar hey! I didn’t but still looking… just not working as hard.

[@muradshawar]

@@dilly2000 Well I hope you find your person brother Im here in Charlotte NC and its tough out here .

[@garljr]

I work in warehouse, we are no longer permitted to use box cutters/knife to break down boxes and instead this new shitty tool that can barely cut anything let alone saran wrap. The boss gets pissed off everytime hes gotta use that damn tool, lol. Reasons: its too dangerous and to prevent finger cuts. It’s a damn joke out here.

[@WingItWithEthan]

Modern day slavery with all the taxes… Most will never be able to retire, so I ask what is the point? Where is the incentive for men to work. I work just enough to get by, and try to do cash work or tax free as much as I can, so I don’t contribute to this system that hates men.

[@cedricmiller4370]

You are smart you not letting the IRS get a extra penny out of you these jobs could keep overflow of employees if people didn't have taxes deducted from they paychecks

[@thedarkdojo5115]

The system hates increasing wages to a livable level too... Apparently... Edit: But naw... Dumba##es would rather blame women, as if that has anything to do with it... It's society's fault... If anything...

[@rabbitcreative]

The system hates everyone who isn't rich. Stop promoting their divisions.

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

Men have worked far too long no rest. We built everything without rest. we deserved our rest 😤

[@jth_printed_designs]

Behavior is driven by incentives. If they truly cared to find the root of the problem, they would look at how men’s incentives have changed over the years. They know the answer but they can’t say it.

[@user-bl6yi4rs3v]

No, they dont give a fuck

[@rabbitcreative]

Behavior can be influenced by incentives, but incentives alone do not explain all behavior. That's debunked behaviorist thinking.

[@jth_printed_designs]

@@rabbitcreative Don’t be autistic.

[@skylinefever]

The ROI sucks. The system demands men work for a smaller ROI than in the past, yet expects the same number of men putting in the same amount of effs to give. The masses saw that it was no longer possible to get a job at a company, stick around, and get a decent pension. Loyality was rewarded. Now it just means the business avoids raising your pay. The execs removed the old incentives and expected people to work the same way. Nobody wants to work... For those bullshit jobs that have pathetic wages, death trap worksites, Karen customers, and instability. The system holds a carrot in front of employees. Think you got it? The carrot gets yanked out the way.

[@BarfingGerbil]

Most people want to work, not just for a meaningless job they can't trust for no reward or for a loss. Many jobs now cost more than they pay, are completely unreliable, are not rewarding (or harm the worker in some way), and the stated job qualification requirements are way beyond reason or beyond that needed for the job's actual duties. The situation has become so bad that it's actually more profitable (or less of a loss) to NOT work.

[@rebuffedspace1132]

I’ve worked construction for 35 years 60+ hours a week , I’ve made more than most and I’m still struggling to keep my family housed and fed . When young men look at my life , how much I’ve sacrificed, and they think do I want that ? I don’t blame them for just getting by . This is what the left calls equity, work 60 hours or, don’t work at all , the out come in the end is the same . Work more get taxed more to pay for the people that don’t feel like working. Which group do you want to be in.

[@johnflynn2109]

The high ground group

[@zenden6564]

Yes. Hamster-wheelville. The most powerful global entities are talking about "you'll own nothing and be happy" - because you will indeed own nothing and they will own everything and you will "happy" as the Globalists want a 90% population reduction because at the end of the day you're a carbon based lifeform and it's for the greater good the Planet Custodians have reduce the "carbon footprint" and you'll be transitioned to the next world, like they've already started offering in Canada. The "you'll be happy" is the WEF equivalent of Auschwitz's gateway "Arbeit Mach Frei" sign.

[@sloppyfloppy79]

I work a straight 40 hours. It's enough to pay all my bills and give me a grand of spending cash every month. Not interested in making more because they will just take it in taxes. Age 36.

[@user-bl6yi4rs3v]

Neo feudalism

[@akesvensson3778]

One statistic from Europe is that one percent of those unemployed disappears permenently from the labour force. The reasons are many, mental health, drugs, alcohol, suicide and more. So the higher unemployment, the more people disappear. On top of this, as Aaron explains, the reasons for marriage disappears too. No marriage gives less incentive to work too much. And if you happen to work too much for your family's wellbeing, the wife gets tired of you. Seen it too many times.

[@adamjames1375]

There's a funny counterintuitive phenomenon I've witnessed/experienced wherein : The woman/family demands the man works alot, exhausting himself in the process. A logical man would assume his sacrifice will be appreciated and reciprocal. In reality many men are cheated on & taken for granted.

[@canadiansoviet]

✌

[@BarfingGerbil]

Same thing is rapidly happening to marriage. After divorce an increasingly larger percentage of men will never marry again (for life, they're done), and this trend increases the number of men who will never marry at all (as marriage is actually a pre-divorce). As they never marry, they also often don't form families. As single free men don't need very much to live happily they and don't need to work much either. These single men by happy example encourage other men to never marry and they then also live happily and minimally. This will also depress the labor rate, and do so increasingly over time. Add to that psychopathic, meat-grinding, completely faithless and untrustable very-hostile-to-men companies to make employment even more untenable.

[@canadiansoviet]

@@BarfingGerbil _And the women will inherent the 80 hour work week earth_

[@pwalker1360]

I also have to push back on "trade schools." Why? Because I'm old enough to remember back in the late 1990s that because jobs were shifting away from vocational towards professional, a lot of us eventually got useless STEM degrees. Of the 12 of my friends I graduated with, only 2 got an actual engineering job, and one 50% of those got laid off within 12 months. The economy has been gutted by the Ownership Class, sucking up all the wealth resulting in zero money velocity, and once again, people are peddling "you chose wrong, you should do A instead of B this time."

[@skylinefever]

Indeed. Plus I worked in auto repair and saw bullshit. Just because there is a shortage of workers does not actually mean people will be paid better and treated well.

[@dougmerrick9064]

I'm leaving trades after I finish my current project. Jobsites, Superintendents, ownership groups etc. They've all gotten worse and worse over the last decade. I'm done. The money ain't worth it. Thinking about giving dog walking, training, and boarding a go.

[@jr7392]

Amen. I also remember that there was propaganda along the lines of "boomers are going to be retiring soon, so we'll need more scientists/engineers/etc. in the near future" when the boomers never retired and imported H1Bs for less pay for the few jobs that did become available. The "PhD glut" was/is real.

[@pwalker1360]

@@jr7392 I remember my final semester in some bird course the prof basically said he expected 75% of the 200+ graduating class to be back for their Masters the next year. Aaron is 100% right on the escalation of education requirements heading into the stratosphere.

[@marcmeinzer8859]

Absolutely. There’s no easy fix anymore. Like men becoming RNs. What a grotesque prospect that would be. It’s almost like everyone is being forced to drop out. My version of dropping out was shipping out with the merchant marine then finally going to barber college so I could spend the rest of my working life just hanging out in barber shops reading paperbacks I got from a used book store for a quarter apiece. Then when you ‘re actually busy you make like $60 per hour. If you work six days and have three good ones that’s enough to get by. And I would always keep the shop TV on the weather radar channel. What kind of an asshole wants to watch cable news all day at work?

[@ohjay7612]

I dont have anything to work for.

[@johnflynn2109]

Pssy

[@axlcanada6511]

What about single moms raising children with no fathers which leads to less discipline and soft personalities

[@Blackpilled_Fever_Dream]

Get rid of child support and they'll be a lot more careful about who they spread their legs for. Also, a lot of these moms are single because they chose to end the relationship (usually over trivial nonsense) and push the father out of the picture. Either way they get little sympathy from me.

[@heyjoe9267]

Single mothers create the criminals that destroy our city’s. Black males in particular flee fatherhood, almost 80% of black children grow up without a father.

[@RobertLutece909]

@@Blackpilled_Fever_Dream Yep. You can not fix the family unless you remove the possibility of marrying the state, and remove the possibility of sponging off the ex on a permanent basis.

[@lairdsmith9608]

I was raised by a single mum that had boyfriends that would heavily abuse my brother, sister and I but that was in the 80's and 90's not the modern rubbish people call abuse today. I would say i'm an angry man that is not soft or lacking discipline but someone that can see weakness and sin everywhere thanks to single mums and the weak men they find after the fact.

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

As if you men in the west could raise a prper mnman u cant hit them to discip-ine them

[@hawkkim1974]

I don't know, I just don't wanna work anymore. Yes I can come out with all the excuses, reasons, and complaints. But I'm not really sure if any of them is true. I just don't wanna work and I am not working.

[@boogiemcsploogie]

Good for you bro same here

[@xandercrew6088]

How do you survive then 👀 I feel like I must work or end up in street lol I don’t think you’re on steeet lol

[@savioblanc]

The only reason I'm still looking for a job to work is because I have bills to pay. That's literally the only reason. I like my comforts of a roof over my head, heating and electricity.

[@xandercrew6088]

@@savioblanc right same here but I’m set with everything else lmao

[@PasstheA1]

@@xandercrew6088 tbh i feel like at this point theres enough of us, wouldnt be hard to create a commune and in less than two years be chilling with some crops and big ol weed plants kicked back with our feet up just chillin as everything goes to shit around us. everyone heres homestead and thinks about some fucking viking living in alaska with a three foot beard fighting a moose over a fire, but the reality is in America we have so much amazing beautiful land to choose from you could find a place with relatively mild climates and just be chilling. I say to hell with all of it, if we just helped each other we could just start something else im tired of people looking at me like a burden on them for existing in society im ready to just fully leave. id rather smoke pot in the woods doing nothing at all complete peace

[@johnloa2009]

the work scene is too sensitive for men. u cant say anything without getting into trouble

[@greatbooksformen]

that is because of women being there

[@skylinefever]

@@greatbooksformen I think about how when working auto repair it was usually all men. On the jobsite we got to crack all the dirty jokes we wanted. Whenever a woman happened to work as a cashier, we didn't get it anymore.

[@BarfingGerbil]

The office work environments are extremely hostile to men. Men basically are on permanent probation for existing. (Women most affected!)

[@chrisleearies484]

​@@greatbooksformenSpot on with that

[@chrisleearies484]

​@@skylinefeverWomen are bizarrely strange, they get offended by a dirty joke not aimed towards them then cost the man his job. But it's okay for women to sleep with whoever, have abortions, flaunt their t¡ts and post sex memes on their social media

[@trenttonator9715]

Women are the reason men work. We want a family, a legacy. If there is no shot, then there's no point...

[@christofl6523]

Work sucks! If you can avoid it, do so. The NEET is the highest form of human life. Top of the mountain.

[@bobdike1850]

potential hot take: all NEETS should get into gardening and growing things

[@extra-samsaric3836]

Yep. Jobs are semi-decent at best, and intolerable at worst.

[@zachjackel]

Its the highest part of the mountain with no resistance.

[@Koi_to_Dragon]

@@bobdike1850I’m thinking about growing a cherry blossom tree 🌸 surrounded by lotuses 🪷 now that you mention it

[@prussiansocietyofamerica]

@@bobdike1850 Gardening is a waste of time. You can't live off of it. No sustainable nutrition in the food, you can have a bad harvest, and after the first growing season, the soil remains depleted for almost a century. You would need to regularly buy fertilizer. Gardening is also a major scam, for the most part.

[@killy374]

I work as a teacher for kids with dissabilities. 16 hours a week. Love it. Not much money but a lot of time and peaceful workplace

[@solinvictus39]

Male peace of mind is very underrated. In my world peace and contentment is worth more than any stack of bills.

[@Ascendsean35]

Thank you for what you do.

[@chrisleearies484]

I say the work week should be 3 days a week with a additional day of work if needed, giving a 3-4 weekend

[@solinvictus39]

@@chrisleearies484 I've never understood the yahoos who always brag about how many hours they work a week. To me, it always comes across as sad and pathetic. People shouldn't be lazy, but they also shouldn't be spending all of their life force focused on earning money. We all get a limited time on this planet, and it is a sin to waste that precious time on things you can't take with you.

[@killy374]

@@Ascendsean35 I thank you for your kind comment.

[@timbuktu4610]

Every girl has to order me a pizza or I’m not interested. Show me upfront you can get a hot meal on my table even when ur stressed and busy. Know ur worth kings!

[@michaeldavis3819]

Drizzle drizzle!

[@BenjaminDarlingMusic]

I’m 33 and currently not working. I did the musician gigging thing in early to mid 20’s, and then I built a small social media audience in my late 20’s as a writer. Made a little money from my books. Finished an undergrad in psychology in 2021. Now I just share an apartment with my gf. She works as a leasing agent where we live so our rent is discounted. Can’t find anything in my area outside of retail or food service paying about $11-12hr. My degree is useless. Trying to decide on either grad school to become a therapist or getting a couple certifications in computer engineering and switch to IT work.

[@Tetelestai-cw8qy]

Video games > tall children

[@PinballClinic]

LEAN IN!! I’m 53 years old. I’ve given up and leaned into the girl boss movement. I encourage them to pay for my dinner and playfully shame if they don’t. I refuse to do any manual labor. I just had sex, had breakfast purchased for me and then had sex again. In a house I don’t have to clean or maintain. I’m going to go ride my bike in the park now. This may be the greatest freaking time in history. Well, for me anyway. LEAN IN MY BROTHERS!

[@Asrajzz64]

Bro...😑

[@midgard8550]

This lifestyle is wholly unsustainable. You will crash and it won't be fun

[@PinballClinic]

@@midgard8550 Going to the Nora Jones concert this week. In a nice Bimmer. Free! Living my best life and knowing my worth!

[@torts560]

🤣

[@JohnSmith-119]

Hahaha 😆 😂 too funny! Hahaha

[@jean-louislalonde6070]

I'm mad as hell and I won't take it anymore!

[@BarfingGerbil]

Especially when I can't even afford a TV, toaster, or steel-belted radials!

[@Torgo1001]

"You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear?!"

[@jean-louislalonde6070]

@@Torgo1001 I haven't but you have. Karma is a force of nature, it's a boomerang coming back to you with a vengeance.

[@Reinaiswaifu]

If it wasn't for child support I would be floating on a sail boat somewhere in the keys taking odd jobs just to get by there's no point in working hard anymore no job. Will never own a house. Will never have a wife or family. The last time I tried that she took the kid at 2 weeks and ran off to collect welfare.

[@jr7392]

If you float on a sailboat somewhere, how are they going to collect child support?

[@Reinaiswaifu]

@@jr7392 they take away your passport

[@Reinaiswaifu]

@jr7392 not only that but they eventually issue a warrant for your arrest .

[@MichaelSteger-dl2js]

I work just enough 39 hours a week Senior industry accountant. Spending my time with my family, friends, taking courses of interest through local city community centre eg handyman course and intro Japanese. My taxes support a dying a society. No point in tiring myself out. Just destress and take care of people, myself and upskill.

[@solinvictus39]

Not to mention that the tax money gets sent over to Israel and Ukraine. The government and economist types whine about the lack of money in the treasury, and yet they have 200 billion dollars for Ukraine (so far) and at least that much for Israel since 1948. There's plenty of money out there, it's just in the hands of people who aren't us.

[@BarfingGerbil]

Your taxes support someone else's society while yours is defiled and left to rot Your taxes are overwhelmingly sent to foreign countries with a certain tribal connection.

[@MichaelSteger-dl2js]

Yeah and even on the domestic front, social programs and money for new illegal migrants and asylum seekers but nothing for domestics citizens.

[@MichaelSteger-dl2js]

Yeah must be mars. 😂

[@malumnexus7919]

Broke, homeless, and jobless. No matter how hard I try, I can't find a job. No one's hiring.

[@malumnexus7919]

@CombatMedic1O What part of, "No one's hiring," do you not understand?

[@Dharani_tidadin]

Coms to india

[@jimhanratty9543]

​@@malumnexus7919 join the National Guard, be a full-time Guardsmen, mostly m-f work, not hard work, he'll they even train you. Plus a pension and health care

[@NashHinton]

Because society is collapsing.

[@freddieoblivion6122]

I stopped working 5 yrs ago when I lost my job for not getting a certain jibjab. Give diversity the bill. Let's see how that goes.

[@Nerotique]

I'm still trying to recover financially from not getting the JibJab. Believe me I know how you feel.

[@exvan3571]

Diversity doesn't read bills

[@tabularasa7350]

Grinding like a Lunatic untill you body gets sick and won't be able to pay the hospital bills? been there, done that, not doing it anymore, fuck the "Corporate Family" bullshit.

[@kennethmcgurn3830]

Society asked men to marry and provide for their family. They did. The most important thing family men were denied was personal time. Now in Boss Babe Era there are far fewer families forming. So men are defaulting to vastly improving their personal time. This gives men a goal and a reason to claim living a rewarding life. I know I did, and do.

[@PaulH581]

Women lead the way voting in all of the policies and programs that allow anyone including men to go through life without ever having to work. So congratulations, you’re getting what you said you wanted, supported, and voted for your entire life.

[@CGB.SPENDER]

After 7 years of working 60hrs a week in a corporate slave position. I managed to get fired by quiet quitting. I realised that I’ll never get rich by staying a salaryman and that it’s pointless to have this life until your 60s. I plan to benefit from unemployment as much as p. And get back to studying a job with better life work balance.

[@mr.v2689]

We all saw our fathers sacrifice everything and we choose not to

[@how.abouth]

I worked my ass of from the age of 17 to 27, did not get me further than anyone else in the business. Just needed to pay more and more taxes. Now I work 3 months 5 days a week each year in Scandinavia and liv in Spain the rest of the year and make more money per hour then my old colleges. Free held and disability insurance there, so I live the dream 😁. Be smart, live life.

[@EddieMush]

Are you an asfalt worker?

[@Boon-vh6zk]

The hell job are you working

[@buy.to.let.britain]

nobody will work to own nothing. it is deluded.

[@joerapo]

Furthering the issue is how egalitarian many workplaces have become. In many departments the top 5% workers barely make more than the bottom 5%. When you consider the effort and self sacrifice it takes to be the top 5% it's usually not worth the few percentage points higher wage than the person that you have to help with their work.

[@BarfingGerbil]

In "egalitarian" workplaces, the bottom 5% have a much higher ROI than the top 5%. The bottom %5 make more money per unit of effort than the top 5%, meaning they can invest their remaining time and energies elsewhere. If you're in an egalitarian or "socialist"/""marxist"-like shop, go for the bottom, the least responsibility and effort, the highest ROI. (In a pass-fail world, a D- is the same as the A+, but the D- is much cheaper and more profitable.)

[@Wavetheory85]

Most men I know work 70 hours a week.

[@xandercrew6088]

Sounds miserable

[@solinvictus39]

And that is sad. 70 hour weeks is wage slavery and there's no way you can have a life with that kind of work week.

[@shortchubbyneckbeard1681]

Are they dating/married to attractive women?

[@davidcarvajal5739]

Are these men having sex?

[@ouch9326]

nothing else todo , buying cheese beef eatign eggs raw etc healthy food to make life not feel so shid

[@dedeborya9015]

During the Pandemic - moved to all gig work / remote tech consulting / paid professional coaching - I work less than 30 hours a week, from my home and I am still making more than most of my corporate 'Merican jobs. YOU could not pay me enough to work for a DEI company in any capacity - instead, I will find their competitor - and actively sabotage the established widget. My own version of *Operation Evil*

[@dedeborya9015]

[@dedeborya9015]

I refuse to work for, produce to support, invest in, protect, participate or reside in a country / culture / civilization / society / religion / corporatocrity that hates me & men openly, aggressively and pervasively. Sod OFF - Not a dime of my money - not a moment of my time. Not my Circus - Not my Monkeys. meh. DEI can go *D | E* ~ Signed 20 Year Mil Vet, Masters Degree, Foreign Language Fluency - #happierabroad #passportcrew #expatlife

[@dedeborya9015]

[@dedeborya9015]

I refuse to work for, participate in, protect, invest, promote, pander to or reside in a country / culture / civilization / society / corporaticrity that hates me and men en General. Not a dime of my money to y'all, not a moment of my time to any o y'all. Enjoy the scheduled collapse, next round of CovFeFe and the end of the USD . Not my Circus - Not my Monkeys.

[@dedeborya9015]

[@AthenaTheWolf]

Phil is in a bubble. There are women who choose not to work above a certain threshold because it would take away EBT.

[@AllegedlyElPresidente.]

*_"IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE"_* why me aren't working

[@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706]

no no no its... CRAB PEOPLE!

[@jr7392]

It's Trump's fault!

[@maxhouse1125]

The social "climate" has discouraged men by making goals of marriage, sex, children no longer attainable. If he does get there, he finds out that his "oasis" is just a mirage and really a part of the desert he wants to escape from.

[@AllegedlyElPresidente.]

@@sirwilliamericclaptonpower1706 *we're not sacrificing enough babies to Molek, that's why men aren't working*

[@kylebroflovsky6015]

the climate has changed to anti-men.

[@darth6129]

I'm 26 years old and I currently work 2 jobs (cooking), over 50 hours a week just to get by. I live in a blue state, but I'm really trying to get out soon, go to the cheapest possible place I can and become a minimalist. Cut my hours working to 30 hours a week and spend the other 20 hours building up my small business. I'm honestly sick of all these people in my industry (cooks) bragging how they work 6 days a week even though they hate their job, how they will work till they're dead and say kids these days don't have a work ethic. Why would you want to work in fine dining and only make a few dollars more than a McDonalds worker for the rest of your life? Some of these guys are pushing 60 years old.

[@soleursuelos3616]

They want the same for us, only much, much, MUCH worse. But it's not them so quit your crying

[@rustyscrapper]

I feel like I have a far higher standard of living making $36,000 year rental income with part time work to manage rental properties, then $100,000 a year to be somebody's full time slave. You don't need a lot of money if you don't work. -can live anywhere, no 2000+ rent to live in a city. -don't need a vehicle or gas to drive to work -don't spend as much on clothes, footwear or food when not working. -have much more free time to do things like fix own house,fix own car, grow food, recycle materials, and build own infastructure with low cost material, split firewood instead of pay for heat. See where I am going here? I save 20 grand a year by not working. Edit: why dont women want to have this lifestyle? Why don't women want to live with me? I don't know and also don't care.

[@ApexGaming100]

I dont know, and i dont care 😂🤣

[@propheinx2250]

Somebody: I'm financially stable, have no woman or kids, and I've never been happier. Same dude a half hour later: I'm drinking a lot lately and I need someone to cheer me up. Way to contradict yourself.

[@jiaw4637]

Doesn't necessarily contradict itself, just means he was more unhappy before, never been happier doesn't mean happiest possible or at the desired happiness level. Eg: Current temperature in my house after putting in a fan is 35 deg C -> it's never been cooler since I moved in to the place I'm getting an air conditioner cause I need something to cool me down more.

[@dbmail545]

Just bought the book. I'm 70yo and can't express how happy I am to be out of the female dominated local education bureaucracy.

[@BarfingGerbil]

The school system has become an insane cesspool - for some reason - some childlike, irrational, illogical, overemotional, overindulged, insulated, narcissistic, reality-averse, accountability-averse, very-poor-decision-making, easily-deceived, herd-mentality demographic...

[@jayshah9967]

I love the Raw Brutal truth that this man speaks. So many so called experts dance around the issue. But this man exposes how the modern female and the system that backs her are the main culprits. I love it.

[@ApexCat202]

His “tough guy talking like a straight-talker” will get old on you fast.

[@kevinlipps2817]

If you're in a big city like Austin or seattle, there's not a lot of motivation work for many Men. Heading to cost of living, no wonder so many men will forgo working entirely or they will just focus on part-time living a simplistic lifestyle. Recently I moved back to a conservative area, and there's motivation to work. The reason being is I don't spend two to three paychecks just to pay rent. It's easy to do in one paycheck. That gives you three paychecks a month, to do what you need to. It's not as exciting to most people but I like the fact that I don't have to spend all my money on surviving. That's enough motivational alone.

[@RasheedahsWifeSchool]

My first job in high school was at Burger King. I was a cashier evenings and weekends. Over the summer I pulled in OT. Within one year I got approved for a home loan. I got a little condo 2/2/2. Bay view, kinda rough area but close to downtown. I couldn't afford the quarter for the metromover so I hopped the turnstile every day. I sold that place in 2017 for $775. No renos-- developers wanted to tear it down. I remember listening as an adult to Ross Perot try to warn the American people about NAFTA. It was sending American jobs overseas in a race to the bottom for world wages. No one cared. The media (which was male-dominated, by the way) chose to make fun of his height, ears and Texan accent. They preferred either one of the two corporate war machines that were up for election that year. I showed up to protests and I was either physically attacked or ridiculed by American men. The police were safer at those protests than the Boomer generation of men who called us dirty hippies. Men want to work but the jobs are no longer here. And wherever they are, they are paying poverty wages now to someone in a poor country. Women do not experience this sense of angst because they started at the bottom so their trajectory feels upward. But men started at the top so naturally there was nowhere to go but down. A kid working a BK in the early '80s could expect to become solidly middle class. Women didn't do this. It was men who had the power. And it is true that men are now the main victims of the results.

[@skylinefever]

I often describe those trade deals as :Line go up next fiscal quarter thinking." What's the long term cost? Whatever the cost, the MBA will have his golden parachute to fly to the next company. The dumpster fire the MBA leaves behind can burn everyone else. Things were much better when there were more family owned small companies instead of a few mega firms.

[@RasheedahsWifeSchool]

@skylinefever exactly right. I worked for a company in which a department head was presented with a plan that would computerise (early '90s) our filing systems. It would have saved a ton of paper, time, and most importantly it would have cut down on errors. He told me privately that he only got a quarterly bonus based on maintenance or cutting of department costs, and that there was no way he would hurt his own short term gains for the long-term benefits of a company that he planned to leave within a year or so for his career benefit. Corporations killed the company man. I wonder how many delayed advancements we have now in tech, or at least in the adoption of existing tech, because some exec sees the benefit but doesn't want to explain short term increases in department costs.

[@SarkutheFive-HeadedLordofWorms]

Modern day pot is poison.

[@EddieMush]

It's strong, I tell you hwat.

[@splinterborn]

Without Weed, Alcohol, Books, Video Games, Pron id have literally nothing. I have no family connection. No friends. Never had a girlfriend and im almost 30. And not for lack of trying. I also hate my job and every other job ive ever had. I go to work hating life and come home to nothing. I smoke weed and escape in games like red dead redemption 2 and kingdome come deliverance because in the game, i have peace. I can also progress and win which i cant seem to do at life. I wish i had the strength to end it all.

[@EdVail-kk6qv]

NPNW.

[@midragga]

You got it right there

[@ohjay7612]

Basically

[@ouch9326]

if that was true pron and prostitution would work. it doesnt. no united family/society, no work. its obvious.

[@Zomutt101]

“Oh why won’t men work more? We’ve been compiling the data, flipping the charts this way and that, if only there were someone, perhaps a group of people we could ask who might have some insight!”

[@FarmingUnclear]

I think a lot of men retired early. No wife, no kids; just blissfully alone and okay with that. You can't NOT work in Capitalism. Everyone has to work. But you can retire early. I added up the number: over 19 years I've spent/lost 1.1 - 1.8 million dollars. On what? On what! I think a lot of smarter men just saved their money and noped out. I wish I had. Instead, I've got another 20-25 years to go.

[@myvideosetc.8271]

Why are men not working? In the famous Cher voice: "Like, for what?"

[@Koi_to_Dragon]

It would’ve been so funny to see an interaction between her and Sean Connery. He would’ve destroyed her feminist beliefs with 1 conversation and he would’ve walked out with an ironed shirt and hot meal 😂

[@MichaelGeoghegan]

Decades of wage suppression mean that wages for the average American are about one fifth what they would have been had wage increases continued to keep pace with productivity growth as they did up until 1980. The average US wage today should be $200,000 per year instead it is only $40,000 per year.

[@BarfingGerbil]

I was running some ratio numbers a while back and came up with similar numbers. The pay per unit of productivity is about 1/5th of what it was for the average worker, at the same time, their money buys about 1/8th of what it did around 1970. The salaries should be around 200K on productivity alone (which would be equivalent to $25,000 in 1970, but the median salary was just under $10,000 in 1970). Adjusting for ONLY inflation (productivity held constant) $10,000 in 1970 would be $80,000 now (with no change in productivity). For a 5/1 increase in productivity, the dollar value per unit of productivity, adjusted for inflation would $80K times 5, or $400,000 (for 2024). In 2024 the median salary is around $60,000. (The $40,000 median salary was in 2020!!!, it rose for inflation from $40K to $60K in only four years (2020 to 2024)!!! That deserves some exclamation points!) But you're absolutely right when the math settles down - the wages are being deeply suppressed by 3 to 5 times or so.

[@mattcardarelli]

That is truly a staggering figure. My lord I need to get out

[@axelmilan4292]

Why would any man go above and beyond for a society that is apathetic towards them at best, and openly hostile towards them at worst?

[@FleXxTheFuture]

Because all the hr departments are filled with incompetent wowan that won’t hire men and fire you at their first opportunity trapping the money for themselves it’s an obvious disadvantage

[@icedragon23472]

They dont offer us good paying jobs that can support a family, two cars, and a house.

[@Mantelar]

I’m 45 and reached a point where I could retire now and live a quiet, middle class life, or reach for more. The thing people don’t tell you about this is there is no end to it. To earn the money you gotta act the part. Send my kids to boarding school $$$. Maid $$$. Nanny $$$. Driver $$$. Bigger house I host social events at $$$. Etc. Etc. I have rich friends and I can tell you the gap between where I’m at and where the rat race well and truly ends is vast. I cashed out and moved my family far away from the clown like insanity of DC (where we were), paid everything off and we’re good. I’m gonna write a book no one will read. Maybe mod Skyrim. Build a forge in my back yard. Who knows. I know that my case is happy one, and not what this post is about. But that’s why I quit working. We’re all just bricks on that wall. Why put more work into than you have to? Money or not, I imagine that’s how a lot of men feel right now. Because that wall is ugly…I don’t want to help build it any longer. P.S. They school here isn’t woke and all my kids have improved academically by leaps and bounds, just in a single year, as a result.

[@Boon-vh6zk]

Good job

[@pwalker1360]

I bet Aaron has never been long-term unemployed or even tried to qualify for welfare and clearly relies on media-driven stereotypes. As a general rule, men don't get welfare as the system makes it difficult enough for single women to qualify (hence the single moms). EBT is a nonfactor when it comes to male employment participation. A lot of men like myself have embraced System D.

[@ApexCat202]

He hasn’t. He had it tough for a couple of those years as a full-time working college student, working security, it sounds like. But then things started to really coast for him. He never got the 2008 FU like so many of us did, or anything like that. He simply hasn’t struggled, but yells at us on how we should manage our struggles.

[@FoB39]

@@ApexCat202 hes a grifter lmao what do you expect