Why Some Fans Are Already Over Invincible: Season 2 Finale Review!

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[@CartoonUniverse]

I think they spend a little too much time on drawing some of these characters!

[@Lynel104]

Based.😆

[@chrismeandyou]

The worst thing about this and The Boys is that the most powerful ones are just born/given their power. So it's not as interesting or great to look at compared to something like the Spartacus show that is so much better.

[@kkubek5748]

@@chrismeandyou Invincible constantly improves, he isn't born with his superpowers, he gets better with training and age over time

[@dom_time6618]

​@@chrismeandyou I disagree he was strong but nowhere near a top of his verse character till the end

[@maskedbadass6802]

@@kkubek5748 I understand your point, but I also understand why the other commenter feels that way because some of the strength in the series feels unearned. The actual worst example would be Allen The Alien, who literally falls bass ackwards into a huge strength upgrade when by all rights he should be dead. This also highlights the many fakeout deaths that feel so cheap since they remove any sort of consequence. It's not surprising though if you're familiar with the voice actor Seth Rogan who is also a producer of the show, he is the exact kind of guy who in real life always needs to frame himself as a hero due to his politics and ego. It makes sense he would self insert as the guy who is both central to the narrative and gets to be about as strong as the most popular characters. He has done this many times before.

[@jessetorres8738]

The 1st half was great, the 2nd half was good, the few month gap between them was bad, & the potential 1 to 2 year wait for a Season 3 is even worse.

[@J.B.L2227]

They said it would be shorter than the wait for s2

[@Arankar79]

@@J.B.L2227Doubt

[@donleonard4446]

@@Arankar79they said they had already been working s3

[@ezekieltonks2808]

Well, animation takes a long time. So if the fans want more quality content. They should learn to be more patient.

[@Bradellen1129]

Honestly I liked part 2 of season 2 much better than part 1

[@Brandonhayes-r6e]

bro really spent the first half of his video explaining what comics are.

[@magtinfal7908]

I thought the same thing. Just tell us your point instead of blabbering just to stretch out the video time

[@Flipitmixit]

Foreal wtf

[@michaelsmale4830]

Well it was definitely that 4 months hiatus that killed its own hype

[@TheRibottoStudios]

pfft 4 months...Yall would never have handled a year long hiatus. Imagine your heroes are beaten. The one stronghold in that world was taken over by the enemy. The main character was DEAD. Legitimately DEAD. And you have to wait a year to see what's going to happen next. While contending with a shipping war. You people wouldn't have survived. Or how about a FOUR YEAR hiatus? Please. 4 months. Pathetic. You lot are pathetic.

[@michaelsmale4830]

@@TheRibottoStudios alright two things I’m not saying I’ve never experienced that for a show it’s just for this show specifically and secondly think before you speak you egotistical puta before even going on a tangent on how back my day weren’t so luck lucky head ass to me

[@michaelsmale4830]

@@TheRibottoStudiosalright one the hell is this self righteous attitude where you think you’re all high and mighty I was saying THIS show specifically maybe reread it and you’re argument would hold weight if the show didn’t advertise IT WAS FINISHED before AIRING

[@sethisevilone02]

what show you referring to?@@TheRibottoStudios

[@TheRibottoStudios]

​@@michaelsmale4830I'm allowed to feel however I like thank you very much. People BITCHING about FOUR MONTHS is actual nonsense. Especially when you have other content to go to.

[@AnywayMan]

Idk, didn't find anything wrong with series, I like it. The story and characters are actually interesting. Perhaps because i didn't wait it at all, just noticed when new episodes came up.

[@TheBlackAztec3]

The pacing was bad, season 2 basically went nowhere after mark and his dad met up. Nothing finished like the sequid arc and even the angstrom arc because he’ll be back. They even brought back that mummy tomb thing even though it went nowhere again. The entire season was just a set up season for the upcoming ones and they also brought back rae, rex, kate, & allen it seems like none of the main cast can die? Not sure why you dont see anything wrong especially on the finale pretty hard to enjoy a batman cameo when debbie and oliver are getting beat. It’s like the finale was written by a kid

[@AnywayMan]

@@TheBlackAztec3 Well, it turns out I just didn’t worry and enjoyed watching it. 🤷‍♂️ If you’re not, then well, my condolences.

[@TheBlackAztec3]

@@AnywayManI didn’t worry either Im just not easily entertained by scripts that seem like they were written by 10 year olds.

[@angramainyu9220]

@@TheBlackAztec3Yeesh

[@Kepreejohnson]

@@TheBlackAztec3bro thought he was grown and strong with that message 😭

[@staticplays1871]

I find it funny when people say that invincible is a realistic super hero world when super heroes are fiction in nature. The show has more characters drama then there is gore.

[@AL-lh2ht]

You just said a painful logic fallacy. It’s causes physical pain.

[@CartoonUniverse]

I literally complain about this in the video too!

[@MrMelonsz]

I think invincible is pretty “fictional” in terms of its writing. But I’d say something like “The Boys” showcases what the world *would* actually look like if superheroes existed in it. My main point is that some shows can be written more realistically than others, even with fictional concepts.

[@1slayer959]

Ok and? It's realistic in the sense that it has characters die or be horribly wounded in situations where plot armor would have kicked in, in any other show. You're complaint is, to be frank, idiotic

[@MrMelonsz]

@@1slayer959 I can understand your anger, but please don’t call them idiotic for having their own view, it’s not necessary and won’t help you convince them.

[@Marcusstar-kd6zn]

Honestly, I have no problem with it, and since I read the comic, I more or less have a general understanding of the plot as a result. I enjoy the show because it brings something new or old to the show, and while I admit that the four-month break dampened the hype, I still enjoy it.

[@Neo.Jordon]

They wasted air time making debbie and amber "good people"

[@gabrielartino2175]

Which chapter should I start reading the comic after the end of the second season?

[@Neo.Jordon]

@@gabrielartino2175 chapter 34

[@gabrielartino2175]

@@Neo.Jordon Thankss

[@kingcaesar3693]

@@Neo.Jordon 45 wanna be fan. Not 34. 45 is after Anissa shows up. mid 30s is Levy, and they didn't waste time on Amber and Debbie, they just decided they need actual characters not 1 being eye candy and the other a generic horny mom.

[@machipachis123]

Invincible is really good! But prime screwed it by having us wait 4 months to "sit on" the first four episodes when its really not even that big of a deal for the rest of the season. Nolan is only in what felt like 2 scenes in the second half of the season, which is fine but we didnt need to sit on the first half. Also i feel like Oliver is aging super slowly even tho his mom's species is supposed to age very rapidly to the point that within a few months she was an elderly being. But Oliver is still a toddler over the course of a few weeks, shouldnt he have aged at least to like an 8 or 9 year old by now? I really liked this season, good continuation from the first, but the break rlly killed my enthusiasm and immersion for the story

[@prottoydas4737]

His aging is slowed down due to his Viltrumite genes

[@machipachis123]

​@prottoydas4737 yea but his viltrumite genes wouldn't slow it down that much right? I mean look at Mark, he aged like a normal human, he didn't slow down because of his viltrumite genes. Shouldn't the same logic apply to Oliver?

[@hero5900]

@@machipachis123 viltrumite hybrid aging is kinda weird because as they grow older they become more viltrumite and less whatever there other parent was it's why by the time oliver is an adult he lose's the purple skin

[@HTBsnowgoon]

@@machipachis123mark is technically full blooded by this point of the show or when he turns 20 I guess but because viltrumites age slower the older the get Oliver severely slows his Thraxan aging but Oliver will be an 8 year old or something the next time we see him

[@kelvinsmymiddlename5756]

In the comics (spoiler) he actually does age pretty fast, such that in a few months he already becomes an adult. It’s just that his part Viltrumite biology will eventually slow down his physiological aging rate. I believe Robert Kirkman says we will see Oliver in multiple different forms, implying that each episode or even within the same episode he will demonstrate signs of aging

[@scitzo_wasnotaccepted]

I started watching invincible 2 days ago I've binged it all and I see nothing wrong

[@AL-lh2ht]

He just wants to hate for the clicks.

[@TheBlackAztec3]

@@AL-lh2htNo season 2 just wasnt a good show. The pacing in the finale of season 2 showed that the best. They keep bringing characters back from the dead (allen, rae, rex, kate), they only had 8 episodes but still chose to use filler like the entire Arc with Rick which couldve just been a side film like Atom Eve or retconned, and season 2 really went nowhere after mark meeting up with his dad. The rest of the season was just setting up the main and subplot for the next season(s). What about season 2 was great especially after the break?

[@Peter22055]

@@TheBlackAztec3 Dont thread on Allen and Kate, they survived in comics as well, and from what I know this show is trying to be more so faitfull to the comics, changings just minor things.

[@johnnyd3158]

@@TheBlackAztec3I mean, except for Shinking Ray not dying, everything else from the series was lifted directly from the Invincible comics.

[@texassherman7093]

That’s probably because you didn’t have to wait for the second half of the season. It killed all the pacing imo

[@jknetwork6211]

Angstrom was pretty mid as a villain ngl. I liked him in the last episode where he was a genuine threat but for a guy who was supposed to be this season’s “main villain” he almost has no presence. Hell I forgot he was even in season 2 until the after credits of episode 6 the buildup to him was really weak and then he just gets killed lol. I liked his backstory but that’s about it. So yeah weak villain with some cool stuff about him. Hopefully season 3’s main antagonist is much better. DON’T share comic spoilers though I’m serious.

[@denysvision]

Angstrom weak? Pffff, he is not bad of a villain and he is not dead btw, he would return but i would not say anything since ofc you don't like spoilers

[@spiritflame8806]

​@@denysvision saying that is a spoiler...

[@denysvision]

​@@spiritflame8806 no it isn't? I would say he would return but not HOW he would return

[@UP4NONE]

I'm excited to see how season 3 is goung to handle Marks, thought to be dead, twin brother shows up looking for revenge.

[@sleepingsheepy]

@@denysvisionthat’s still a spoiler. Clearly they want to speculate.

[@Che9009]

This season was slow, the decision to divide it into two parts only made the momentum even slower, it was crappy overall but just ok, its gets a 5/10, an average rating at best.

[@samuraiforever9120]

I am not over it. I am just can't wait for season 3. The only complaint is likely the plots being told put of order. Though if it was done in the original order the episodes would fly by faster. As for the eve reveal this was something had more clashing as mark had both amber who in the comics was basic and superficial while eve was written be someone who could mesh with his heroism.

[@Tyler_W]

Nah, this season was great. I'll only agree that it didn't have the same narrative hook as the Nolan mystery from season 1, but season 2 was absolutely focused and delibsrately plotted on a thematic level, and it's that writing and the voice acting that maintains this as one of Amazon's best series. The only thing I want changed is for Amazon to give them a bigger budget and to not split the next season again.

[@TheBananaThug]

wtf does it mean "Angstrom could have sent him back before dying" ?? Yes, thats the plot. He dies so he cant do that. Him not dying is just a totally different story?

[@ohdeer2069]

Due to the nature of this being based on the comic, the community will always be divided. Those who haven’t read the source material may be semi disappointed compared to last season, but comic readers know that this season was a lot of set up for a much more impactful season 3

[@HTBsnowgoon]

I love the story narratives I know what’s in store I jus don’t like certain things of season 2 like how ugly it looked I mean 3 years for something that looks worse in terms of animation compared to season 1 and the damn teaser

[@firecat4529]

@@HTBsnowgoon I looked back at season 1 and wouldn't really say that the animation is worse in 2 than 1. Do you have certain examples for that maybe?

[@mystichollow8484]

@@firecat4529he’s just talking out his ass I guarantee he don’t

[@Tyler_W]

​@@HTBsnowgoon there is absolutely no way that season 2's animation is worse than season 1. I think it's fair to call that an objective statement of fact. What I will grant you is that the animation for the reveal teaser was better. Apparently a completely different studio did that teaser too.

[@magtinfal7908]

I've read the comics and I don't expect season 3 to be too much better than season 2. It will probably be setting up season 4 and THAT season will be insane

[@theconqueringram5295]

I am both an animation and comic book fan, so I love how the show is a hybrid of both mediums.

[@sonicspeedproductions2.04]

Spoilers for Season 3 .Blue and Black suit .Thragg appears .Rex dies .Levy is alive .Oliver turns into Kid Omni Man

[@mr.fantastik4755]

you forgot invincible war and conquest

[@theketaminekid1241]

Not looking forward to Rex dying.

[@HTBsnowgoon]

Invincible war ? Cecil vs mark ? Mark killing nonchalantly ? Possible conquest depending if they drag it on

[@Tyler_W]

​@@theketaminekid1241 yeah, but he'll go out like a champ, though.

[@kingcaesar3693]

I don't think Thragg appears till much later. Will get up to Conquest i reckon.

[@rungunninja1289]

It not bad but it’s clear case of they need to go back to the 10 to 20 episode seasons because this one needs more time to cook.

[@HTBsnowgoon]

The creator Robert kirkman said he wants to get 7 season out of invincible 💀 so now you can understand why they took the break ( more money ) and then release 8 episodes a year

[@rungunninja1289]

@@HTBsnowgoon never said I didn’t understand why they do it that way. Tv shows are expensive nowadays. Just said this show felt like it needed more episodes to work with. Personally I miss shows having a little more breathing room on what they put in episodes instead of packing it the important moments. But honestly it was still a good season.

[@kingcaesar3693]

This covered 20 issues of the comic. There are 140 roughly if we take the cross overs out. They actually covered everything these 20ish issues had. If you have problem with this then the comic is also a issue for you too as they ACTUALLY added more to the characters by giving depth to ones that were very bland in that.

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

@@rungunninja1289 Sadly the world doesn't agree. Nobody will stick with a one-a-week episodic show that isn't mostly foot to the floor, 45-60 mins, and very short seasons. 20 ep seasons cost too much and seem to always get cancelled these days. People want immediate gratification, they don't want slow build, and the industry evolved over the las ten years to accommodate that.

[@battybatbatbat]

There are many problems with S2: A lame, empty villain with no charisma who honestly feels like he should have been a one off joke character Boring, predictable relationship drama we've seen thousands of times by now Completely copping out on the deaths of real characters (which was a truly shocking moment on par with Omniman's betrayal - until it was all undone) Basically all of the hero characters conflicts just making them look dumb or like jackasses When the main character's mom beating up a cabinet door is one of the best and most meaningful parts of the show, you've got issues lol

[@luismolina9557]

Levy is not the real villain of season two. The whole point of this season is to build-up for season three. Because the real villain of invincible is Mark himself. Levy is the instrument to show you what happens if he sided with Nolan.

[@kingcaesar3693]

@@luismolina9557 And to hint at the major threat with Anissas warning. This guy is missing the point.

[@theultimateartist4153]

@@luismolina9557 This is pretentious beyond belief , Mark is not the villain the story does not end with him serving the viltrum empire

[@randomfools808]

And they wasted so much time on that cop out character death. It was TWD syndrome. Same type of filler.

[@wearenumberone1111]

I dont understand why are people saying that its bad and obsolete is it for the views?

[@Hsiss]

People watched it and they didn't like it. What else is here to understand?

[@Macheako]

I thought season 2 was awful, like, why are you saying something different than me? Is it just for the likes?

[@Universemasterj]

@@Macheakothen stop watching

[@theultimateartist4153]

@@Hsiss Yeah it was really bad, like all this teen drama is going nowhere . Is that really the best use of time

[@Im.Smaher]

Yes

[@drow_Lilith9940]

what i like the cartoon of invisablie is the comic didnt age in many places, but the show is not just trying to just a copy of the comic, it just to take it ideas and re-fine them to tell better story

[@theultimateartist4153]

The fans of the book live in lala land, that book was so slow that I had to stop, that Omniman plottwish takes like 27 issues

[@annormal1414]

Very little interesting happened. We already saw all this in the first season. New faces got almost no coverage. Viltrumites? Space council? Bulletproof? We don't know anything about them apart of 1-2 traits. Constant reintroduction of characters from season 1. Brutes are cool, but they are just...around? No balls to kill anybody who 100% SHOULD have died. Season finale is a joke when compered with amazing first one. I genuinely surprised that people who made season 1 come up with season 2. On it's own its fine, but in comparison it's extremely weak. At least they toned own preachy girlfriend after her " i guess we both been lied to" bs in season 1. Hope season 3 will be much better.

[@lilmario0]

You keep saying fans this and that but you have not provided any proof of anyone being displeased with the show. Everyone seems to still be enjoying it.

[@broderickfall]

I'm a fan and I really didn't like it. I've read the comics and they're really struggling trying to adapt it. Take this from someone who's not easily displeased

[@macmcleod1188]

I'm an Amazon customer and I liked the show. I'm also aware that if I was going around giving out free $20 bills, five people out of 100 with hate the fact I was doing it. You cannot please everybody. I prefer using the word customer to fans as it clarifies the relationship between the business and me, the customer. Businesses can feel entitled to time and money from fans. But as a customer, it's my time and money and I get to choose where and how to spend them.

[@macmcleod1188]

However that said, I agree with your underlying point that he seems to be push polling. He's basically taking a few negative comments and trying to push the opinion that lots of people have a problem with the show.

[@makhalid1999]

I actually like the focus on side-arcs for world building while delaying the main Viltrum story

[@0Mitzuio]

Some may say she's ugly, but first off, it's comic accurate. Secondly, yes, she could change her appearance due to her powers being able to change things at an atomic level. However, is that the first thing you want to do when you're at war (given where they came from)?

[@gwell2118]

I loved the season. The gap was unfortunate but I am just laughing at people having a meltdown over a four month wait. People are so spoiled these days I have had to sometimes wait years for shows to comeback. On top of that the comic whiners complaining about every tiny change from the comics, or the broken base arguing if more fighting or character drama is needed. Besides they have already said waits like before won't happen again so I don't see what the problem is anyway.

[@Neo.Jordon]

The wait was supposed to improve the animation though, the average anime looks 10× better

[@Marcus-gw4bb]

Samurai Jack had to wait 13 years before they decided he needed a last season to give an ending both to the story and Jack himself. Young Justice was cancelled by CN in 2013 and only came back with season 3 after 6 years. What's 4 months..?

[@utopian4769]

​@@Neo.Jordon What exactly do you consider the average anime? Because if you can only name ones made by well known studios who have the budget necessary to make the best stuff, then that's not average.

[@Neo.Jordon]

@@utopian4769 Amazon is the biggest company in the world 🙃

[@codypetersen9723]

4 months i've waited more times for one piece

[@isabele.c-c9417]

I don't read comics, but I enjoyed Invincible thoroughly.

[@Kumori90]

I like when stories/shows have a lot going on. As MattPat would say, "it's all about the LORE!"

[@firetoacat]

I actually hope they touch more on the multiverse stuff in season 3. Heck, I would not mind seeing a super evil Mark from a parallel universe enter our Mark's universe to fight him

[@denysvision]

Oh my friend, you have no idea aboit the different versions of mark

[@firetoacat]

@@denysvision *shrugs* Well yeah, I don't. Until the series got put onto Prime, I never heard of Invisible. I know there are different alternate versions of him, I sort of expected it when I saw its a super hero series and was proven right by the series, I just don't know all the other alternates of Mark the comic shows.

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

That yellow and black Mark will be back, I feel it in my bones

[@kelvinsmymiddlename5756]

There’s leaked images of a version of Mark with a Mohawk, which appears in the comics. It makes me believe that we will get to meet the alternate versions we briefly saw in Season 2 and likely through Angstrom somehow surviving Invincible’s attack

[@Digi-Dev]

Maybe its juat me, but there was WAY too much screen time between Mark and Amber. I feel everyone knew how things would end, yet it still took many drawn out scenes to get there.

[@thejellybeangamer3284]

The gap was perfectly timed because after Nolan leftthe floated for a while that’s why it was a while between the last time he saw mark.

[@calebprice8622]

Say what ya'll will about it, I loved it. Waiting several months never took my hype away and I really loved the Finale of this season.

[@Yogaji]

The time traveling part was a bit confusing because that means time travel is linear to some extent... but also can be parallel with multiverses? Did Angstrom throw him into the futute then rather than a parallel world?

[@kingcaesar3693]

The way it works is like this: They finally after 20 years of looking found Mark in that dimension, but he must have been really messed up, so they took one of the time machines they had acquired over the years and traveled back to the point he arrived there since they knew he was in that one now. Go back and listen to what Robot says about how he did survive, but would not like what he become because of it. They altered the future by pulling young Mark out instead of waiting and putting him back into his dimension 20 years quicker than before. I don't see how this is confusing. You just gotta listen to what they say. It was worded that way in the comic too, which I also have read.

[@somestuff7876]

@@kingcaesar3693the problem here is that those people no longer exist then. They brought him back earlier, therefor they changed their own reality. At what point that "wave of change" would hit them? When they got there? When Mark went through the portal? Nevermind memories, what if some of them were killed thanks to getting Mark earlier? Or alternatively did they changed nothing for their reality and just created alternative one for Mark? Why was that point in the past chosen instead of neutralizing Nolan or do they play with the past constantly? Why not? What stops them? Time travel is pretty dangerous tool it feels like deus ex machina without set-in drawback that can fix everything and make everything worse because of it.

[@MrBranh0913]

@@somestuff7876 they still exist just in another timeline . Bringing Mark back to the right dimension created a branching timeline.

[@jacobp249]

It wasn't as good as S1 but I don't think it was ever meant to be. From everything I'm hearing this is just setting up for the big swing of Season 3

[@marcusgabrielson9616]

Season 3 is going to go so hard

[@choco698]

SPOILERS I think the people who are already over season 2 are overeacting, the 4 month hiatus definently killed the hype and the finale of this season left out alot of important things that it shouldnt have but the series was still amazing with great stories, people are mad that not every plotline gets rapped up like the mark vs cecil fight but shows dont beed to end every plotline in one season, they just need to be paitent…

[@kingcaesar3693]

It's crazy to me cause this is so close to the story I can open a random comic page and see the literal fucking panels coming to life in the animation. Dialogue and all.

[@EricSiluk]

There is no such thing as a "set up season", just good and bad. Trying to see if s2 is worth a watch and many positive reviews are repeating this nonsense. To those who understand tv writing a bit, every episode and every season must stand on its own. Ugh, s1 was only "ok", so I guess 2 isn't worth my time.

[@randomfools808]

It was extremely unsatisfying. The entire season felt like a waste that I kept waiting to get to the point and it never did. So much time wasted on characters and plot lines and side missions I did not care about. The finale was awful. I forgot that character was even in this season because it had been so long since they had last shown up. The multiverse suddenly becomes a thing again when most people wanted the viltrimite war. Instead all we get is Nolan getting beat up in prison and so much Mark and Amber. And Marks mom and his son. And Marks friend and his boyfriend. I would bet there is a massive drop in viewership for Season 3 much like what happened to Mando Season 3. It doesn't even end on a cliffhanger. It just stops and says see you in a few years. Most people watching aren't going to remember much of this. And I don't believe Kirkman about Season 3 after being a TWD fan and seeing how badly seasons were dragged out with so much filler. This was such a fall after that amazing Season 1 finale. I'm not even excited for more. By the time it comes, I will have forgotten this.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

I don't know why people are bellyaching about the 4 month wait. People are so spoilt now with streaming I swear. 4 months is nothing compared to some of the hiatuses I've experienced. And I still waited. Patience just seems to be a trait that's no longer in existence.

[@gcole6]

When the show is only 8 episodes. A 1/3 of the year break is going to be a buzz kill because the momentum is gone. The break was artificial and only done for prime video ads.

[@fynnthefox9078]

Plus animation TAKES TIME! I'd love to see these fans try to work as an animator and work on Invincible with the crew.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

​@gcole6 it was still 4 months. Imagine having to wait a year. After going week to week for episodes. Or maybe 4 years. 4 months is nothing.

[@gcole6]

@@TheRibottoStudios I did. I’m a Steven universe fan, it don’t get much worser than that. But just because we suffered doesn’t mean it’s okay for it to still happen.

[@saisameer8771]

The 4 month hiatus was clearly just an attempt to artificially increase the hype. The animation wasn't even good enough to justify the delay for a show with 8 episodes. We already had to wait nearly 3 years for season 2.

[@firecat4529]

15:20 Why would Angstorm bring him back to his realities with his powers if he wants to kill him? Also the future Guardians moment sets up the future in multiple ways and explains how he isn't stuck there forewer + it's right from the comics, so I don't see the problem here. Idk, I haven't really seen or talked to a person who really dislikes this season so far. It almost makes it seem like you're trying to create a bad narrative around this show/ season for some reason. To me it has been an excellent comic adaptation until now.

[@federicodicampli3624]

Before Nolans Batman came Raimis Spiderman and Singers X-Men. Very important note they created the superhero trend

[@Marshall_Law]

I don't read comic or manga but liked the invincible s2 idk why ppl are complaining about it ik the gap in middle of season 2 was bad but atleast it was great and thank god its amazon prime series, netflix would have dropped it already 😂

[@Leenis13]

I cannot wait again, this season left me feeling very lackluster, got the comic, starting to read them right now!

[@F5BOTD]

The writing and story structure of season 2 has turned the series into a gory kids show

[@TheGalekGames]

I haven’t watch the video yet but wanted to state, this was 100% a setup season. While it was a lot more toned down and simple, this was an important setup for what’s to come in season 3. Without the setup of omni and Alen, angstrom and the guardians (Expecially Rex’s) character growth, season 3 will not have as much as an impact as it should… while I’m slightly disappointed with this season I know what will be in store for season 3

[@xarbinchaoticneutral1785]

Tbh, as much as I like the show, invincible doesn't have the tike to slow burn it's plot, nor can it afford to simmer and take breaks. Season 2 didn't have either the meme worthiness of the think mark, think or the shock value of the subway scene. I actually didn't know part 2 dropped until I went out of my way to look. If there's another gap like season 2 there probably won't be a season 4.

[@cedricshepherd4459]

Season 03 please 🥺🙏🥺😎 Eve is my favorite.

[@Revenger373]

I was only invested in the main story...and it was like 5 minutes at the end of every episode...

[@juayitl]

Is ADAPTION a real word? English is not my first language but I was under the impression the word was "adapTAtion". I keep hearing it here in YT, is it a thing outside of it too in english speaking countries?

[@sylvesterjones8527]

No you’re right

[@macmcleod1188]

It is a real word. It is a shortening of the word adaptation. And an adaptation makes something more suited to a new environment. Define the version in your language, Google is your friend.

[@travisspeer3151]

Deus ex machina? Mark being saved that way completely fit with the vibe of the show

[@kingcaesar3693]

It's also how it happened in the comic. This show is a 1:1 of the comic in 99% of the scenes.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

The season finale was so good

[@gavinspace]

just binged the whole show for the first time in a day and it was awesome, can’t say a single bad thing about it, hyped for season 3, only real complaint is the wait but ive waited over a decade for gta 6, i think i can wait another year or two for season 3

[@MrBranh0913]

Sounds like the critique is that the season didn’t focus enough on the Ominiman story. But I think “wrapping it up” in season 2 would feel very rushed. I think Nolan being in a Viltrumite prison with Allen ready to escape is a good place to leave his arc. I’ve read the comic and a lot of these characters have very very long character arcs. They could always change things but changing a lot of what these characters will go through would be cheap. I also think the show has done a ton of things better than the comics. And actually have a lot of things more time. Things like having Damien Darkblood and Cecil being in the first season was great. It drew out the Omniman betrayal and gave it a lot more tension. As a matter of fact I’d ague a lot more things were rushed in the comics. Like the Guardians Of The Globe deaths. Handled way better in the show. The GDA was introduced a whole lot earlier. Which was actually cool and worked better. The battle on Thraxa was a blink and miss it moment in the comics. But lasted 3 1/2 episodes in the show. I also think the Amber breakup made more sense here. And works better even if it happened later in the comics. Overall I think the show has had way better pacing than the comics and I’m actually excited to see how it will all be adapted

[@BionicBey]

Day 1 of asking cartoon Universe to look at murder drones insecurity

[@CartoonUniverse]

insecurity?

[@BionicBey]

@@CartoonUniverse yea check it out

[@BionicBey]

@@CartoonUniverse its from animate a Thing

[@BionicBey]

​@@CartoonUniverse its pretty good

[@naxvxdaniel5122]

Idc tbh I just like how they changed the story from what it is in the comics and I love how they sort it out in their way but still in relevance to the comics

[@jeffali5157]

The season was great, I don’t think some fans are over the series, but the hype has gone down since the 4 month gap. Hopefully Amazon doesn’t pull this crap again since it clearly doesn’t work

[@leftjab6145]

It is so unoriginal. I have counted many ripoffs only two episodes in

[@arhangeo]

I hate how Omni-man's capture wasn't taken seriously by anyone (not even his own son) and how long Viltrumites are taking to execute him.

[@samuraiforever9120]

right now Cecil doesn't have resources and mark I uncertain how to feel and how to dump all those feelings. As for the COW they have a spy working for the viltrumites. And Allen has to basically do his thing without letting the viltrumites know that they know.

[@Ninja07Keaton]

They explain that it's their custom. A viltrumite must be fully healed before facing execution. Wanting viltrumites to die by their beliefs so as to reaffirm them. It highlights the ideology of Viltrum, and why they must be stopped. Mark has his own issues to deal with, and he hasn't fully forgiven his father yet. Between his breakup with Amber, figuring out if he truly wants to be with Eve, and his first kill, his father's execution is the last thing on his mind. Mainly because Mark already came to terms with Nolan most likely being dead already. After all, he doesn't know how Viltrum custom works like we, the audience do. But he knew that Allen would search for him, so it makes sense that Mark isn't terribly worried.

[@firecat4529]

I feel like the people complaining now just need a bit more patience. Some story plots go on for multiple seasons and have a imo worthy conclusion later on, so if they don't drastically change the beloved comic story I don't really see how they could do it differently, not that I have any problem with how it is done atm.

[@Tyler_W]

Definitely feels like this is the mow attention span crowd complaining. In terms of actual quality, this season was fantastic. The only thing I'll grant is that season 2 was much more thematically driven than it was driven by its ongoing plot with a fight narrative hook like the Nolan mystery last season, but that's about it, and we're definitely going to get more or that next season considering the massive looming threats on the horizon that'll make everything before it look trivial in comparison.

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

@@Tyler_W This comment 100%.

[@randomfools808]

God I heard this with TWD so many times before more and more people realized they were getting taken for the same ride every year with the same false promises from Kirkman on how great that next season will be.

[@firecat4529]

@@randomfools808 Invincible has been true to the comics so far and TWD diviated quite a bit from their comics.

[@pppaulllllallennnnnnn]

I'm convinced a lot of the Invincible haters are hating just to hate. Except for season 1 Amber and the release schedule that hate is legitimate, and the animation could def be better but seriously so much of the hate is nitpicky. If you actually read the comics you would understand why season 2 seems so "boring" compared to season 1 bc it's setting up so much stuff in season 3 and beyond.

It felt like step down from S1 too, I mean, I like that there was less 3D but there were less camera movement, more static frames, less detail in clothing, less background characters, less good action scenes, S1 has a good scene every episode, this one does not, no cool Doctor Seismic action, no Nolan in the Flaxans planet, no Orbital Cannon, it was ok, but worse than S1... a real shame.

[@Activation1111]

I’m not over the show. I love the show!!!! I hope they can finish the entire comic book series!!!

[@rozbot86]

I'm a comic reader and my wife is not but we both enjoyed the season. Having read the comics by the issue as they were coming out, I have the patience to wait for more story. I know they're going to do a great job with it.

[@simonbarker980]

I've read the entire comic run when it came out so my memory is a bit hazy on the series, I thought season 1 was an incredibly good adaption and just great in its own right but I'm not a fan of season 2 at all. Too long of a wait for season 2, too much time spent on the feelings and drama of side characters in the first half, too long of a gap for the second half (they should have just delayed the entire season rather than pause halfway through) and even without the gap it was a poor choice to threaten us with the Viltrumite invasion to have it... not happen, poor choices of additions and an underwhelming finale. Season 2 felt like a season of filler content. I don't understand how they managed to make season 1 feel like a complete arc and season 2 to feel like the complete opposite given they had plenty of time to plan this out. Even if you don't agree, consider how the main characters change over the course of season 1, now do the same with season 2.

[@kingjames2372]

I don't mind waiting honestly. What threw me off however was that the show felt like a parody in season 2. The comic con scene where they talked about how to cut animation cost and whatever, Mark meeting Doc Oc, Spider Man and Batman in alternate dimensions...just to name a few. It's really weird and off-putting. otherwise I really liked season 2

[@MWLE.EDITZ..]

That all happened in the comics too though even the cutting costs bit about animation only that in the comics naturally the joke is more related to comic books

[@kingjames2372]

thanks, I didn't know that since I've never read the comics. but as a first time viewer of the show this just seems goofy..

[@bobharris7225]

@@kingjames2372 It wasn't executed as smoothly, don't worry your criticism are valid. They're trying to force/skip to the bigger storyline and not putting enough effort with the smaller character building storylines that expand on those future scenes. I don't count expanding on Donald, Will or Rick as that, it's decently interesting but way overstayed its welcome and is simply just filler..... Mark and Cecil's relationship is very underutilized and rushed this season, which is very disappointing and just poor set up for future events.

[@ion_force]

Mark really did meet spider man in the comics. But they did not do a gag at comic con, that whole scene was filler.

[@kingcaesar3693]

@@bobharris7225 No it's not. Everything here is happening like the comics, but with MORE depth. Spoilers: Cecil and Mark are on good terms till he finds out he allowed Darkwing to start working for the Guardians and that he kept Sinclair around to make Reanimen. They have actually vastly improved the pacing. We didn't need Eve trying to slut it up in Africa to take Mark away from Amber for a episode, both characters are better written here. Them Putting the Rex fight with Octoboss earlier is great to allow more time with him before his death and give character. We got more Levy too, we never got his full backstory till almost 100 issues later in the comic and even there it was never shown, only referenced. And Donald was super generic robot man. And yes I count him.

[@StarKaiser2]

Kinda wish they had saved the future guardians for season 3

[@mousepad9763]

😂 lol this got worst and worst until it felt like i was watching a soap opera, how did it go from season one to whatever this was

[@danielbrinton9716]

I’m confused does this mean we aren’t aren’t getting the invincible war? The multiple invincible conquest?

[@kingcaesar3693]

Yes. This all happens right before that stuff. This is following it all. I'm starting to see these "fan" channels giving false info and it's pissing me off. This guy probably read a wiki and watched a few tiktok vids and think he knows the timeline.

[@TrollsAndScrolls]

Before watching season 2 I re-watched season 1 and it was difficult to get used to Mark's new face

[@Name-xf9du]

AOT for American studios, fell in love with a series in 2014, after ten years for two and half seasons, gave up. Same thing will happen here. Can’t wait 25 years to see mark not suck and rule the universe.

[@katrina8231]

The thing with the future guardians of the globe going to help mark get back is not the best I agree but ankstrum wouldn't have helped mark even if he was alive to do so, he hated Mark and wanted him to suffer and die, not to mention Mark was in a rage at the time because his mother got hurt, only after all is said and done and he's had time to clear his mind does he realize what he did and also that he killed the only person at the time that could take him home. Plus the future guardians showing up is also a different universe, a universe where Mark was trapped there and not able to help his world, so the future guardians knew they had to go help him so they could prevent that future or at least keep it from happening in another universe, I'm not sure which but yeah, so I think the way they had mark get home was a relatively good way to do it

[@kingcaesar3693]

Can i link you a page showing that exact scene in the comic? Cause the future stuff happened there too. This guy is fucking dumb. I can't believe he has this many subs.

[@louiswalusimbi8006]

The show has actively improved on the comic imo

[@DefMM123]

invincible is overhyped trash but we'll see if next season is soild

[@userxv]

Season 2 was a snooze fest, Mark is such a little B word it's insufferable. Kirkman has this odd superpower of starting his stories with a super interesting premises and high expectations, and then manages to plummet into B plot bs and over extended dialogues that provide nothing to the reader nor the story.

[@Neo.Jordon]

The side plots is what makes invincible so good, but they aren't using any superheroes, and focusing on debbie amber and will....who suck

[@Tyler_W]

​@@Neo.Jordonagree to disagree. If you think this season was full of stuff that didn't matter to the plot, then you don't know what's going on or didn't understand what you were watching. In terms of plot, this was building upon stories that wil develop and have payoff entire seasons down the line. I'll grant you that some plot moments may have seemed superficially disconnected, but they were all there very much on purpose. They all served the thematic purpose of asking how much or how little is Mark like his father. The answers to that question is the entire reason why the second half of the finale played out the way it did.

[@Neo.Jordon]

@@Tyler_W name one debbie, amber or will moment that matter to the plot down the line. Laughable

[@userxv]

@@Tyler_W 2 words: mummy dude. What was even the point?

[@randomfools808]

Exactly. He did the same thing with TWD. So much filler. It was dragged out for 16 episodes there.

[@joeschmo3]

The 4 month gap was really unnecessary and hurt the momentum of the season. That said, the season was still great and the show has stayed consistent in quality, imo. Might be a slightly hot take, but S2 > S1 for me. Both are still great.

[@Therizziologist]

Mfs are “over invincible”? I get that the wait was bad, but the show is beautiful

[@thewolf01x95]

First half was cool second half was way better . I noticed the ones who didnt like this season are snyder bros who just love action over story ... sad

[@crocro9931]

The biggest problem with Invincible in my opinion is that the story is taking far too long to get going. Honestly the animation is not that good for us to be waiting years in between seasons, we should be getting at least 12 episodes per year

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

shut up man you sound like a spoiled kid

[@SleepyCloud-i4z]

Fr. all they care about is animation. They need to watch anime then ​@@BlueFox-mi9xk

[@voracioust2499]

The hiatus killed the hype just like the Aot series

[@IstoletwotrilliondollarsCIA]

wait for season 3, you guys are clueless

[@marcusgabrielson9616]

I’m so excited

[@Neo.Jordon]

Amazon screwed things up when they asked for the rights to every character who appears in the show. Thats why we have no cool side stories or characters

[@Memorial24]

It’s not the fact that people are over it, it’s the fact that nobody watched it, when the season wrapped up all I heard was crickets, nobody cared

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, fair and valid points and opinions. I hope they balance things a little more in Season 3.

[@ultradripstinct7105]

Season two is weird because it's building up season three

[@firechargeogname]

15:55 - 15:57 Yeah I do have a little bit of comic book experience because I read one years ago (do you know the Miles Morales clone saga and the kang the conquer storyline...bet you don't but I have)

[@ryanhernandez5632]

What killed the show was the gap between the first and second half as well as the lack of advertising for the second half. Only reason I saw it came back was that it showed up on my que on release. Still plan on watching and will buy the disks becuase its a amazing show

[@ziggyzoo9335]

Personally, I just don’t understand why angstrom wants to kill good Mark. Like it’s pretty obvious he isn’t trying to conquer the planet in this universe, go find a mark who actually deserves to be beaten up and killed (like the Mark who actually killed ur son) smh

[@TheJibbajabba12]

Mark was referring to himself that he thought he was stronger to control himself.

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

No no, you can certainly take subtext like that from what he said, but he literally says "You told me you were stronger...you made me do it".

[@gaogaigarfinal6]

You spent a lot of the video just describing general definitions for things instead of the actual subject of the video

[@patman3310]

Over the animated series lol. No they arnt. They will watch season 3

[@coffeehousephilosopher7936]

A months wait for a show isn't that long.. I've waited on series that took 1-2 years to get back on. Honestly people complaining about quality are just dooming themselves for more mediocrity. Have fun with the show and if you want to drop the show then so be it.

[@mushlii]

I personally loved the episodes, I think it was just the pacing and the amount of episodes that gets everyone. When you only have 8 episodes to stretch out lore it’s gonna feel crammed and things will get glossed over. If each season was like 15-20 episodes I can guarantee it would be better. Also as everyone is saying, the 4 month gap really messed people up, I didn’t have a huge problem with it but it still kinda sucked.

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

The studio would be broke before they finished a season.

[@quagsire_lover3235]

im currently binge watching invincible. im not that far into it im only at ep.3 of s1 but so far im loving it.

[@quack499]

I came to watch a tv show. That's what it is. They don't have to do a 1 to 1 recreation of the comics especially when it doesn't make sense for them to do so. Not to say that the comics are bad, but they don't work when you directly recreate them for tv. If you liked this season then great I'm happy for you, but it wasn't my thing this time around.

[@Maxisamo1]

This and Hazbin are proof we need to cut it out with dumbass 8 episode seasons Just not enough time to fully flesh things out

[@JennyTheNerdBat]

The alternative is waiting 6-8 years for each season to come out. Animation takes a ton of time, money and effort, unless your studio is willing to cut every corner while crunching animators to the bone (and I'm glad they didn't take that route).

[@Elijahm33]

My only complaint is the 8 episodes per season. This season could have easily been stretched out to 10-15 episodes.

[@SleepyCloud-i4z]

Why would they stretch it out? That would take way too long

[@cammus]

There is not enough Omniman or Allen, but way tooo much of teenager drama BS between Mark and Amber, and now Eve. Man who cares? All we want is Viltrum invading Earth and humans dealing with it

[@BlueFox-mi9xk]

Because the main character is a teenager. Duh.

[@JosephHandibode]

eve is main chsracter along with mark. amber is terrible character and should be off show rest of seasons

[@kainblood1000]

I think the show is modern day book burning of the comics

[@joeson9582]

Season 3 is coming 2025

[@bossdelgado6835]

Bro if there’s another 2 year wait, I’m not watching season 3 lmao

[@bullylowenthal2683]

You gonna pretend not watch but we all know you will end up watching. You guys always say if they make you wait or it's not the way you want you pull out the I ain't watching it card lmao.

[@bossdelgado6835]

@@bullylowenthal2683 yeah I just won’t watch it. Attentions will divert. Hype with fade.

[@bullylowenthal2683]

@@bossdelgado6835 will see about that.

[@bullylowenthal2683]

@@bossdelgado6835 Can't wait till you guys are always proven wrong again. "Hype will die" when has that happened........exactly nothing

[@randomfools808]

​@@bullylowenthal2683Tell that to TWD fans. That hype did fade. And that was the biggest show on the planet. People started tuning out in droves and now many don't even remember what a big deal it was.

[@angelbedolla347]

lol yeah ok. It will continue to do just fine.

[@chasecummings1529]

Angstrom was pretty lame ngl, season 1 was better imo

[@marcusgabrielson9616]

Yeahh there’s better stuff coming just wait