Why some of San Francisco's formerly unhoused frequent the streets again

[@Linda-v8d]

Housing is BS. Until the people on the street get help for mental illness and addiction, housing does not matter. We have this all backwards. Instead of building section 8 housing, build great mental health institutions and addiction facilities. Stop spending millions upon millions on housing or temp. Housing that does not work. Spend the money for treatment and work up from there ..a job and then housing.

[@mikegoodness9767]

If you housed 20,000 people within 2 years, another 20,000 people would show up expecting to be housed. When would it end? No one has a right to live in San Francisco anymore than people have a right to live in Beverly Hills or a right to drive a Rolls Royce. Most homeless people in San Francisco were homeless already in other States and cities throughout the United States. No one leaves a house or apartment in Cleveland to live in a tent in San Francisco. These people were homeless before they landed in San Francisco.

[@Lora-G]

Are we ALL sick of the tents in parks???

[@415_Stand-up]

Nope

[@silentmajority8365]

@@415_Stand-up I guess omos aren't

[@415_Stand-up]

@@silentmajority8365 speak englush or get off my line

[@lyndsay4153]

@@415_Stand-upyou don’t mind drug encampments that are cluttered with trash and often used to SA unhoused women? Those tents are r@pe and fire hazards.😢

[@415_Stand-up]

@lyndsay4153 no they are not lol they are drug tents before they had drug houses but Biden told them it is OK to openly buy and consume drugs even offers them cases of free needles in each case there are 100 needles and you can get multiple cases in a day

[@MickeyJaymz]

Finally, the truth reveals itself and the media actually reports.

[@vickies197]

All lies ,I see your education didn’t help you at all! You still believe all the lies in msm reports 😂

[@chuckefunn8624]

That’s why the city is a joke the street need to be clear loitering laws in this case are needed

[@nando349]

700 million? and the city is c/o "BROKE". This is pure waste of taxpayer dollars. Where is the accountability?

[@jessebfly]

Vagrancy laws need to be enforced. Period

[@ydne]

The Supreme court will have an answer on that in a few months.

[@415_Stand-up]

No they wont​@@ydne

[@MickeyJaymz]

@@415_Stand-up I'm inclined to agree .

[@415_Stand-up]

@@MickeyJaymz homelessness makes politicians trillion dollars a year why get rid of homelessness

[@bvedant]

There will be deranged fringe-leftists who disagree with this.

[@FoamandStuff]

This is why housing first doesn’t work. Some of these people choose this lifestyle because of drugs, mental illness and just a desire for freedom from societal norms. They don’t want structure, a job, responsibilities, etc. The woman who was talking about community has a point and she’s right. But this is a waste of resources. And what homeless person is driving a BMW? Yes it’s a 2008 but this homeless woman has a newer car than me and I’m working full time struggling to pay rent.

[@Matt-ne6de]

a 2008 bmw 535i might have been twice as much as a 2008 honda civic when they were new but now all these years later the used civic costs twice as much. Maybe it is because every 100k miles the bmw's subframe has to come out for a turbo service costing around $4000. But 2008 hondas dont even have turbos nevermind 2 of them and the new ones that do have one cost only a couple of grand for service. In general luxury cars end up being cheap because most used car buyers are rightfully scared of the luxurious features failing. They even mentioned the bmw was towed away when it broke down.

[@carolr7823]

They need to bring back and enforce anti-vagrancy and anti-loitering laws IMHO.

[@MrDarthvis]

City workers, changing the name of homeless to unhoused, makes no difference and doesn’t help anything. Fix the main problems the homeless face.

[@hopemanley4358]

My 'program' is contingent on my having a medical problem. I have hep c. Took the medicine and I'm grateful. But St. Paul keeps making appts. For stuff I don't want or need.I'm working, and am in recovery. It's lonely all these addicts here. I'm in San Diego.

[@gnaflethegarthok3074]

Its not a housing problem, its drugs

[@jucutan]

They have taken advantage of Government Payment/Care. They knew how to work the System. Everything given to them they will abuse it. Why do we keep on allowing them to live in despair & continue helping them with their addictions.

[@richardwood6017]

The Biden crime family does the same as homeless and illegals. steal from the taxpayers.

[@TheJWal]

Why are these reporters so surprised? Cmon man homeless people not following the rules society wants them to? Imagine that 😂

[@buddhistpunksf]

make it uncomfortable for ppl to be on the streets. Voters and taxpayers matter

[@fleabag2mr.151]

Housing first has never worked and never will. Forced treatment or jail time will.

[@WhocaresWhy44]

The TL flourished when the Vietnamese came in the 80s. Then Black Tar came. The SF Weekly had an article about a new start up millionaire who started doing heroin "recreationally" on weekends.

[@chasingsunsets87]

You obviously don't know anything about the bay area vietmese. They are the ones supplying the drugs and living in mcmansions all over the bay area :)

[@jasontomica8938]

I lived in the tenderloin in 1984. Still a mess. It's not as bad as it is now, but it was still garbage and pathetic

[@rainbow1021]

Stop giving them money

[@jamesormsby9064]

that dog she has with her is shared with the homeless in the castro and is used when they go out breaking into apartments as a look out , happened at my building , she's a junkie who's been on the streets in the castro for over 10 years ,

[@kat8838]

What a dirty disgusting excuse for a lady. Wonder how many children she’s aborted and we should support her? Hell no.

[@RosaThompson-p5w]

What's your definition of a "junkie"?

[@dcarr-kr7hk]

Aka.... Why some homeless people remain homeless even when help is available,. Housing First was ALWAYS a STUPID idea!!!!

[@alihakimi1707]

Drugs, drugs, drugs

[@RandomRabbit007]

Also Mental, Mental, Mental

[@415_Stand-up]

Rarely mental 98 percent drugs​@@RandomRabbit007

[@FiveGunsWest]

US military veterans make up over a third of them.

[@silentmajority8365]

@@RandomRabbit007 and illegals illegals illegals

[@zAlaska]

Part of the contract for the housing is that you don't go back are you lose it, someone who's not wiped out on drugs really would like the place. Using drugs on the street should lead you into incarceration for a long enough time to end the active addiction.

[@ceelavee]

Unbelievable. People who obey the laws, function in society without being a menace, work to live a modest life in this state, and people who don't do anything of substance, reap all the benefits. What's the point?

[@mikegoodness9767]

Most people are also hanging out and socializing with other people 8-10 hours a day. It's called a fkng job. They hang out at there so they can afford to live in unsubsidized housing in San Francisco.

[@opuspchen]

If they are willingly to work, they won’t have time to “hang around “ their neighborhood. They used to say that no one would hire them because they were homeless, now they are not homeless and they still don’t want to work. They don’t have to pay tax and just take in benefits.

[@lisawhittington6790]

Lemme tell u something. I've known Vicky for years and there's no way she will ever work

[@MrJLee-ri3so]

Sf has the best welfare system , every homeless person needs to head for SF. Someone mentioned In Oregon, people on public assistance has to sweep the streets or actually do some work to get paid.

[@RajDeelish]

Why do these people (news, gov officials, etc) keep calling it a tricky situation? It's not. Start serving the people that are paying the taxes. Change the laws, so you can't camp in public places. Put them in jail for littering. Streets get clean and the city revitalizes. San Francisco is a decade away from being a decade away from becoming a visit-able city.

[@caesard.8711]

Insanity on display.

[@KatTheo431]

I'm in Southern California and in my community there's a clearly mentally ill woman who walks around with a shopping cart and seems homeless. She's sometimes seen in stores drinking alcohol - I've seen her at Target sitting in the Starbucks drinking alcohol she stole. There's been calls to help get her housing, but she's actually in the care of a family member who works so during the day - she leaves the house and wanders around. When her family member gets home from work, he goes and finds her. This whole "housing first" plan really doesn't address the problems of essentially the mentally ill who lack adequate care.

[@ydne]

Everything in San Francisco is about neighborhood. Why should it be less so for the homeless?

[@David53D]

Because it's unsafe and unfair to those who actually provide and maintain public spaces with taxes from their labor.

[@protow5041]

People tend to stay where their friends/acquaintances are. If you give someone a home but nothing to do, they're going to go back to where they had social interaction.

[@chasingsunsets87]

Plus these "homes" treat you like a second class citizen. Their friends don't treat them like that

[@JMUK]

@@chasingsunsets87it is hard to respect a drug addict who will not help themselves and receives everything for free, all the supplies needed to continue their drug addicted lifestyle

[@lyndsay4153]

@@chasingsunsets87these people aren’t their friends. They’re drug buddies and I can assure you they’ll screw each other over in a heartbeat for drugs or money. Addiction makes people do some pretty horrible things.

[@eddieg6436]

Keep throwing bread at the beach, and you’ll keep attracting more and more birds.

[@lisawhittington6790]

I get the statement "don't feed the pidgeons" but didn't we bring the birds to domestic level then throw them out? What do I know tho? 🤔 I don't want to compare homeless people to animals

[@eddieg6436]

@@MiMiiViVi …….I’m VERY happy to help feed the birds…….people on the other hand….🤷🏼‍♂️🤔👎🏻

[@Trump-rv4nz]

London Breed should welcome the homeless to the mayor’s residence

[@ericsj40885]

Can we forget the dam HOBOS and focus on the innocent dogs and cats that are held captive in these disgusting conditions

[@lyndsay4153]

I know right? I see so many abused dogs with people using on the street. Particularly pit Bull breeds being pulled by the neck, hit, yelled at, etc. Whenever I confront the abuser-who’s always an older male, they turn on me and get in my face and threaten to beat me. I don’t care, I’ll still say something and make an attempt to get their dog a safe place to live away from their abuser.

[@reylauresta3836]

Well it could be mental state of these folks.

[@roguetrader303]

Its called rules, these people don't want to live somewhere that has rules. These people live on the street by choice sometimes and we just need to accept it. We can force them off the street but thats a slippery slope. We can't use force but asking them nicely to not be homeless is what we do. I think we need to be nice but after no other choices we should force it.

[@ericramirez5647]

What a waste of money...GAVIN

[@thekenthouse6428]

Housing means nothing with mandatory and sustained drug rehabilitation followed up with counseling, how hard is this to comprehend.

[@yonusa72]

You guys just discovered this?

[@kaiarevalo2952]

Lmao yeah same reaction? Almost like huh? Hahahhahahha

[@L3462-f1r]

Need to remove the drugs! Also, deport all drug dealers!

[@jadetiger88888]

Thanks for exposing this

[@Farcamp1]

The Bay Area was better…before. The city was better…before. In only 20 years, it’s been destroyed by its own citizens. The rich build higher gates and enclosure, the middle class leave and the poor laugh all the way from the TL to the Haight to the Castro. Who wins? Landowners and landlords. Raking in those millions upon millions of dollars. As an aside, can anyone tell me what the difference between a homeless person and an unhoused person is? Except for making someone feel a little less guilty about stepping them over as they go to work?

[@WhocaresWhy44]

Building a better bay area can be tough. The 311 networks are great. Yet with regard to noise reports/request it must be non tenant/non neighbor/ generated. Construction noise is a valid request. With the dual residence behavior sidewalk/housing I reflect on an incident from the early 90s in Berkeley. A throng of individuals in their 30s were discussing their itinerary for a Sunday in SF. They were animated, enthusiastic, but not hollerin!hollering! The tenant above opened the curved window and firmly stated it was unacceptable. The throng went to SF, maybe Pork Store off to movie Arboretum. Yet complied with the residents request. Sartre came up with the notion when you are alone in the park. The park is no longer available to you. In the illustration in Sartre for Beginners both parties in the park are housed and employed. The notion that sidewalk with former companions is a tonic for the isolation of the newly housed is residue in the compassion apparatus of homeless experts. Compassion was a prime mover in entering the field yet it occludes the focus needed to implement what kept homelessness and its city destroying knock on effects from bleaching cities like coral reefs. Pouring water on homeless man bad. Letting the newly housed reclaim the sidewalk twice as bad.

[@josiahbirthright24]

This has been going on for years. And you're just now aware of it? SF is like the kind Samaritan who gets beaten up by the guy he's trying to help.

[@johnf8877]

Because they like to cop a squat on the sidewalk?

[@kaiarevalo2952]

How do you permanently house someone who doesn’t event want to work and just want to live in the street?

[@2040wagon]

Good job on the follow up. Most are utilizing their SRO's. Those around me in Mission tried the tiny home and still go to the streets. They do not shower and go to the library or other places they go back to Tenderloin next to United Nations building on McCalister or across from the Main Library on Grove or Hayes. I walk through there a couple of times a month and run into characters passing by City Hall. Gubio Project has too much community in our area and has been problematic on 15th at Johns Episcopal Church.

[@415_Stand-up]

Outreach teams are doing none of the above but the story sounds good

[@WhocaresWhy44]

It must be noted that 311 covers a great deal of the categories. However as to tenant/party generated noise it seems not to. The number of noise complaint/dumping reports concentrated one square kilometer from my location makes such a tight pattern that it would be rated sharpshooter if a target. After examining the 311 map there are these problems in Montclair, Temescal, etc. El Cerrito, Albany seem to be spared from this I'll. I will be reading San Fransicko today. It is a professional treatment by an expert on what I have experienced&observed of the evolution of the ills that Progressives have wrought. A basic text as indispensable as Knight's modern seamanship is to the mariner.

[@WhocaresWhy44]

A Housing Agency was instrumental in shortening the hours of an adjoining convience store so as not to turn the residence into a wet hotel. Noise level drops because less bs goes down in the Parking Lot.

[@yonusa72]

Disgusting!

[@Dwn2Race]

Democrat Utopia….. Politicians use the “homeless” as their cash cow

[@singhmastr]

Lmao, dude you've posted over 100 comments on this channel with all the same comment. You're way more of a 🤡 than these trash homeless people.

[@davidwright873]

Wow....this is utterly shocking!! whom ( or who ) whoulda ever thought.....lol

[@WhocaresWhy44]

4:33 Correct. When your housed bin your tarps. You had no privacy on the streets. Then you get housed. You rediscover You. You are no longer THEM. Cops "Look at THEM!" Read your lease. Get your paperwork in order. Keep in contact with your housing support staff.

[@firstlast-yn4qg]

"somewhoa disconcerting" "and confusing" And also completely foreseen by non californians. Every one of their homeless spending sprees changes nothing.

[@ThePoetcharles]

they did not show the conditions in her housing . the housing they put people is not habitatle

[@zefallafez]

'Unhoused' Is that a new woke term? What purpose does it serve? What's the motivation behind this new speak?

[@keepitclean1237]

You don't even comprehend "woke" so stay sleep this is white collar crime they ain't trying to help no one😂

[@HanginInSF]

It implies that YOU are responsible for housing them. It also is intended to completely absolve the bums from personal responsibility.

[@WhocaresWhy44]

The human clumps on the sidewalks get used as ancillas for the unhappy campers in front of Sproul. Michael Bulawaroy said where there are street vendors there are homeless. Perhaps the commode was smashed to deny the People's Park Security Ops a close clean Rest Room.

[@WhocaresWhy44]

In order to get prepared to be housed you must get sober. Suppressing the social instinct helps jettison the lower companions. The next thing is to remember that the apartment you retain is for you only. There is no such thing as a good guest. A good guest in a case I know of had warrants. So the US Marshalls came. Let the surrounding neighbors create the infractions. Like loud music. If you listen to music use headphones. In Public Housing keep to yourself. The people who came in from the street often keep practicing the destructive behavior inside. Hippies in the Haight found out togetherness leads to crabs, clap, unplanned pregnancies. 4th class mail like soap samples and Kwell used to get thrown into the streets by the post office. It spared the carriers the weight. Also spared them from picking up bed bugs and lice.

[@WhocaresWhy44]

At a coffee shop on Telegraph I learned that the bathroom was out of order. The entire bowl was smashed. Went to another shop. Offered the staff a tip to use that one. Purchase Only. Was I mad. No I was glad. Because my hunch was correct. BPD was not anchored their as a substation but supporting the owner. ZT. Zero Tolerance. RR requires purchase. No wiggle room.

[@415_Stand-up]

Please enter a drug rehab before it is too late

[@debrariat6884]

how about these people going to WORK!!! instead of laying around on their butts on the street

[@airron5019]

All carrot no stick.

[@2152133]

Wow. Media actually report the truth. 👏👏👏

[@jamesormsby9064]

she aides an abets criminals

[@propblast82nd]

Would be nice if they could teach their fellow Democrats to use a toilet instead of the sidewalks

[@ebadd3468]

SF is dead, business's aren't coming back

[@415_Stand-up]

Sf is great not sure where you go in sf

[@ebadd3468]

@@415_Stand-up Back in the early 2000's it was great, need to stop living in the past

[@royalukas8144]

I’m shocked that people in the media and city hall are so naive about the bums on the sidewalk. They need to be locked up

[@jeffreybaier5312]

These people want the streets. Sitting alone in an apartment won't work.

[@JC-rc3pr]

Horrible news station

[@pedalingprospector2007]

Geez, maybe the solution to "homelessness" isn't a home?

[@patrisio3]

But even when you remove them from the environment of the Tenderloin and give them housing elsewhere, some of them still go back to living on the streets of the Tenderloin just to be near the drugs and dealers. I saw an interview with a guy living on the streets in the Tenderloin who explained that people do that. The people don't like being too far from the drugs. They are so addicted that they rather sleep on the hard sidewalk in the Tenderloin than sleep in their bed with a roof over them on the other side of the city. San Francisco (and other West Coast cities) needs to take a hard stance/tough love and start requiring people to attend and participate in services and enforcing the laws instead of letting people do whatever they want.

[@channel-lu6yh]

get harsh san francisco, get tough san francisco. make homelessness illegal

[@415_Stand-up]

Why would homelessness be illegal you sound mentally challenged

[@stanleytolle416]

Sometimes it's an issue of obsessive-compulsive disorder. These people develop feelings that a house or structure is contaminated and become unable to continue to live or even stay in the place. Often a company by other compulsive behaviors like hand washing not changing clothing. Had a case in my town where an older woman was living in a tiny run down trailer. The women was moved into an appartment and her trailer destroyed. Within a month the women could no longer live in the apartment and put her stuff into a shopping cart and started living on the street sleeping different place every night. She died a few months after this. So sometimes it is not a nice appartment needed but a true understanding what is going on

[@TOm-hr2mb]

Vote Breed Out

[@cr-iv1el]

Trauma-bonded and extremely loyal while completely dysfunctional are they.

[@ct4566]

So this is a cautionary tale for America. This is the same phenomenon of being institutionalized where upon release, you would be most comfortable in a system that is familiar. Let this be the warning that if we (America) allow millions of people to live outside foraging for food, they will develop a culture that will become as American as baseball and apple pie.

[@j0biwankan0bi]

Good story. I was homeless in my twenties in Boston. There is a community and it's very non-judgmental. Most people with substance abuse issues have childhood trauma and problematic families. There is increasing loneliness in society. The lack of community is a major reason people turn back to drugs and alcohol.

[@gitdumkid]

housing is only half the battle they been through war in their head and thats what needs to be looked into, how do you expect people to change in a couple weeks when they been living like that for a long time

[@sillypeople4873]

Thats why they should be called "street people".

[@jgnmtz]

Why doesn’t the city communicate and work with Denmark and Sweden on the homeless treatment and transition effort? A human being becomes homeless because of a variety of factors . Many of which lead to mental health issues by being in the ‘street’ world . Sweden has entire buidl8ngs built around community engagement. The residents are required to attend treatment and counseling for jobs ..they are required to participate in their expense payment . There are offered social activities , art classes, gym, cooking classes , education, specialized training .. how is SF a supposed city of exceptional leaders if you don’t even know how to raise children (which is what homeless individuals go back to on the streets ). You have to provide all the basic training , feeding, housing , engagement that you would a teenager . They lose all those skills and adult has (or most do ) when they enter the streets . All they know is hunger, disrespect , loneliness, depression and hunting for bathrooms and shelter . When I was 16 I would sometimes sleep in my car rather than face my abusive fundamentalist father .. the basics were finding cheap food. A safe place to park , and not freezing to death . I didn’t think about tomorrow. It was just surviving the night

[@patrisio3]

But you said the key word that cities on the West Coast are scared of.....'required". They don't want to require anyone to do anything. Reno dramatically improved it's homeless situation (probably by at least 80%) by enforcing the laws and requiring people to attend and participate.

[@rosadiaz3873]

You guys just don't understand when people have mental disabilities and they've lived that kind of life style for that long a period of time. It's hard to adjust to a normal life like the rest of us. It is taking me still. I'm on my 4-year in my apartment and I still find myself outside of my apartment sitting until it gets dark pretty much. I'm not mentally disabled but I am emotionally attached to what I was used to and that's the problem people have today even the elderly. Regardless, if they're homeless or not, people have a hard time accepting change. They don't like it unfortunately

[@Steve65065]

Instead of sitting outside until it gets dark, why not get a job during the day? There must be something you can do for work or is it easier to just get free stuff from the city and taxpayers?

[@keepitclean1237]

I don't understand why people remain in that concrete jungle with nice views

[@keepitclean1237]

Leave the bay the world is enormous

[@RandomRabbit007]

You can do that same bullshit in a different city!! Move these homeless to the central valley, they shouldnt ruin a wonderful/important city. They can still exist with some compassion somewhere else. They dont HAVE to be in LA or SF. Those locations are LUXURIES

[@415_Stand-up]

They only been on streets a few months lol but cool story lol said long periods of time don't believe a drug addict when they tell you they been on streets for years I have been homeless 26 years straight in sf all these people are from out of state and drug addicts

[@chinaskee1015]

You people all have housing and you're all hanging out on the streets too. So why should formerly homeless people be any different ?

[@juangonzalez-mk5ud]

They got back for drugs, no drugs in shelter.

[@Wileyg4lify]

They should move them to another state that is too hot or too cold like that they can’t be out side

[@leunam3434]

Have you ever experienced life in an SRO? It’s a very small room. She needs a mansion like that of the city’s politicians.

[@sappysuds4545]

Conserve, conserve, conserve.

[@PikachuTDP]

Sent them to Vegas or Texas

[@lyndsay4153]

Oh you mean the states that sent some of them here first?

[@wm6746]

Besides the hosing, they need to be re integrated with work and things to do. Be useful to society They give them housing and nothing to do? Part of being part of society is to contribute . So the city needs job programs

[@pageantnetwork]

ridiculous

[@WhocaresWhy44]

3:42 ?

[@TOm-hr2mb]

They go back to their drug buddies

[@rockpadstudios]

because they are too lazy to wake up and go to work everyday.

[@RosaThompson-p5w]

How do you know that? Do you know these people? I don't think so

[@asha8443]

Try and ramp up mental health services

[@dimimegesis]

wow. this actually does shock me. i am not sure what to believe.

[@bombaybeach208]

Handcuffs.

[@horusheresy5320]

Another 4 years for London Breedtardo!

[@henryc1793]

I'm be slow & apply to get sum of Dat free housing

[@FiveGunsWest]

Over a third are military veterans. Enlist and eventually join the homeless after you fight for nothing.

[@chasingsunsets87]

I think it is weird to be singling someone out and stalking them like that. I pretty sure if they were in a different tax bracket they wouldnt be doing that.

[@TOm-hr2mb]

Homeless people have tax brackets?

[@anyonename8067]

Give them money, 1 million each to go home!

[@Bojax-y3z]

Idiot, they'll just be back.

[@alanchen6625]

I come first Oregan, Not bay area born and getting out benifits