Why Sonic Adventure's Chao NEVER Came Back

[@UnknownContributor-rw6zb]

The best part is, Kishimoto confirmed he had considered adding a Chao Garden into Frontiers at several points when working on the main story, but ultimately couldn't (likely the game getting rushed to release). He also spoke highly of the feature and confirmed it was going to be considered for the next game during development, and considered it an "attractive item that goes well with the open zone format." There's hope it may come back soon. Especially since he's been answering a ton of questions about it lately. The amount of questions he's been answering has been dwindling to like, 2 questions every 3 weeks, and he's been answering more about the Chao Garden lately, so... I dunno. Seems like if it ever comes back, it's most likely to happen soon or in the next game or two.

[@Evilriku13]

ohmygosh yes pls. Was Kishimoto answering that stuff on twitter or where do you got his answers from?

[@DarkDyllon]

it's a shame the chao garden just dissapeared. it was beloved in SA1 and 2, especially 2, then heroes got rid of it because it would break the pacing? kinda a weird way of thinking, you'd want something to break up the monotiny that is going fast and holding forward. i liked Frontier as a concept, never finished it since it just became an "go here, collect this, go there, collect this, go there, collect this, hand in collectables to the character, get story bit, go there, collect this" and it became boring real fast, i would honestly be more compelled to play it if i had an alternative goal than just collecting these collectables and unlocking more of Sonics "natural" abilities. kinda wish we could get an actual SA3 at some point, with how smooth it feels and without the need of an "press to go fast" button. the level design lends itself to that button, granted, but it isn't like the adventure or heroes style levels, where getting speed and maintaining said speed was satisfying. can't exactly feel good about pressing a button to go to top speed, hit a wall, jump and just press that button again.

[@noahdavis7406]

That actually makes a ton of sense, as Frontiers definitely feels like an extension of the Adventure games with some Modern Sonic sensibilities

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

Ew, not more "open zone" crap...

[@sonicadventure3130]

@@MrJoeyWheeler A lot of people liked it. We’ll get more.

[@Pattamatt1998]

These games are like a time capsule of late-90s/early-2000s culture and I will forever love them for that.

[@GamingintheAM0801]

Dreamcast games in general just have that feel to them. Such a unique few years of gaming history.

[@Ivegotsomewater81]

That and listening to 90s albums

[@MrChipathenIsMyDoggo]

@@Ivegotsomewater81Yeah. Honestly those were wildly different times than today.

[@JR-mr1tw]

@@MrChipathenIsMyDoggo yup they were more free

[@ObscureOdysseys]

@@JR-mr1tw Was talking about this with some friends today looking at the clouds. It's a whole subject that could be deep dove into.

[@chadtronic]

I didn't know about the unused chao playground or library until helping with this video, which kind of blew my mind. Thanks to anyone checking out my chao garden inspired game Poglings!

[@Mud-Brain]

So poglings is getting a playground and a library then, right? Right? Please?

[@KitoBallard]

The game does seem pretty adorable! Wish I had some kind of funds to assist.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

I didnt know someone was making a chao-like game. Weird. I tweeted out the kickstarter to some people who would love it

[@oO0catty0Oo]

Thank God for Chadtronic. I've been dying for a new Chao Garden game.

[@JohnMartin-ll9cw]

I think the Poglings have a visual similarity to a certain baby dragon from a once-popular 2010's cartoon that pretty much faded into obscurity following the series finale.

[@Darkington]

I've never been baited more in my life, I spent more time on the Chao Garden than anything else in the Sonic Adventure games and I've always wanted them back in some form.

[@DarkDyllon]

it's an odd decision to exclude the chao garden because it would break the gameplay loop according to them. if you're going fast all the time, you kinda want a breather every now and then, that's why SA2's chao garden was the best of the 2, if you didn't want to go to the chao garden, then don't pick up the key, if you did, just quickly exit afterwards, no biggie. SA1s was also nice since you can visit at your own leisure at any point in time, granted you had adventure fields to break the high speed action. but for them to go "it would break the gameplay loop too much" is just a really shitty line of thinking, that shows to me they have no idea what players really want and need. you need a moment to process what just happens, that's generally why stories don't go hard on the plot at all times, generally you see a major plot reveal, followed by some relaxing or calming setup for the next part.

[@technopoptart]

@@DarkDyllon to be fair i literally only played the sa2 FOR the chao garden. i really only was interested in the garden and the time spent in the levels was just grinding for rings and upgrades, i think like pumpkin hills was the only level i even liked in the game X''D

[@butcherax]

@@DarkDyllon It's clearly BS

[@idiotuk]

​@@technopoptart playing sa2 rn for same reason

[@a-bombmori7393]

It's crazy to hear DYKG correcting their mistakes from 10 years ago when I had watched those videos as a kid when they were new. I absolutely love the direction the series has been going in.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

Shows how much they have changed, considering this is the topic they chose right after their account was hijacked by coiners. Which in turn, surprisingly makes the stories as told by Sega Employees just as relatable as their former rival's.

[@Skidd2]

"As a kid." You know how to make everyone feel old, don't you?

[@verygoodfreelancer]

10 years ago i watched these videos at a job lmao

[@noventaporcento]

Yup. I've been watching DYKG since I was a kid!

[@allyt6967]

He felt a stronger bond with Shadow the hedgehog than his own relatives. Honestly that's fair.

[@Davidian_]

8:47

[@nickk3077]

Not really.

[@ArmoredarmadilloX]

This reeks of the Sonic Passion forums.

[@e-soldier3533]

Yeah I don't get that. Shadow is one of the most shallow characters in the entire franchise.

[@Undomaranel]

​@E☠️-SOLDIER On an analytical basis, I agree. Shadow is a color by number emo. But in a world of happy, bright 90s tropes? Shadow is a breath of fresh air, a questioning angst we could all relate to back in the day. Shadow felt grown up, the same way a 2nd grader sees a teen. He is not complex or deep, but he has more pain and morality and dedication in him than Knuckles ever displayed toward the Master Emerald. Shadow feels relatable, because he took his responsibilities seriously, in a world where they blew up the moon as a fle

[@Lakitu1134]

SO glad you guys finally addressed the Eggman-mustache misconception from all those years ago! Omochao only ever refers to Dr. Eggman as “Eggman,” so his line in reference to “the doctor” definitely wasn’t mean for Dr. Eggman.

[@davidmatoushek9111]

I like the fact that DYKG was self-aware about poor fact-checking in the past. Glad to see how they matured with time and now they have proper guidelines when it comes to research. They even got referenced in a video by GVMERS in the Rise and Fall of Dino Crisis video.

[@zigazav1]

I, unfortunately, am also guilty of accidentally spreading false info about games. I'm not at all tied to dykg, but I've accidentally spread false info of gaming that I believed was true. Such as, for example, believing the false rumor of Megaman Battle Network 3's Serenade being female in the JP version, when in truth the Japanese version refrains from referring to them by gender. I'm also guilty of further spreading false info of the cut Omochao line of the mustache being fake, me assuming they meant Eggman, when in truth, they're referring to the chao doctor.

[@ItsNep]

Same here - I really used to hate this channel, it was so sloppy and had a lot of very well-known "facts" if you knew the subject they were talking about at even a surface level. The stuff they have been putting out the past few years is a huge step up and I love it.

[@HoraceInkling]

What the heck is GVMERS?

[@sp23hagbard5]

​@@HoraceInkling a youtube channel that collects easily available information on a given topic and combines it with a very soothing narration.

[@davidmatoushek9111]

@@HoraceInkling It is a gaming documentary channel. Their stuff always feels high quality to me.

[@Roze_aye]

You know. even if some of their plans dont work out. I really love the thought process that sonic devs have. Especially this camera thing mimicking the 2d games, and the homing attack mimicking bouncing off enemies normally. They are really great additions that kept the series feeling connected

[@VongolaXZax]

Yes

[@RobotnikPlngas]

​@@VongolaXZaxprofile pic checks out

[@VongolaXZax]

@@RobotnikPlngas I love to salute. XD

[@RobotnikPlngas]

@@VongolaXZax did you like Sonic Frontiers?

[@ShiroCh_ID]

this is what made me always smiles in old devlogs, since theres so many thing we can learn of their thought process

[@beanholder3634]

I've been obsessed with Sonic Adventure since I first played it on the Dreamcast. I love that people still care about and appreciate it

[@suzukaziodyne9723]

I was obsessed with SA as a kid

[@thegothcatgirl]

I really love these recent videos showcasing rare interviews and uncovering never-before-seen stuff, it really goes to show how even decades after their release, we are still making many new discoveries with games!

[@mariokarter13]

"Sonic is known for running, what if we got a shoe company sponsorship?" "Cool, were you thinking Nike, or Adidas or-" "Soap."

[@shinneri]

When I was little, I actually believed buying Sonic shoes would make me run faster. So my mom bought me Sonic shoes. No idea what brand. They just had Sonic on the side and were blue. Best part... totally worked. 😎

[@GamingintheAM0801]

At the time, it made sense. Soap shoes were specifically designed for rail grinding, and SA2 had already introduced rail grinding as a mechanic. Sega was hurting for money at the time, and the sponsorship would only help both parties.

[@Hysteria98]

Captain Price somewhere in another Universe, his ears prick up: "SOOOOOOOOOOOAP!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@DrRoo91]

Not gonna lie, I missed the Adventure Fields from Sonic Adventure 1. I wish Sonic Team would explore that concept more in their later games.

[@zigazav1]

As much as I love SA2, I cannot deny the fact I prefer SA1's exploration methods over SA2's stage select

[@saynotop2w]

I would pick Knuckles and just glide around the pyramid digging up random stuff, too bad there wasn’t much anything valuable but I liked doing it anyway so I would fo that for hours some days

[@DarkDyllon]

the adventure field wasn't as popular as you'd think, people wanted a more linear style sonic game at that point, they experimented and honestly, the adventure fields worked. (except the maze in mystic ruins, screw that area) it was a common censensus between me and my friends back then that we just wanted to get to the next stage and go fast, i don't doubt that my opinion wasn't that far fetched either since in SA2 they did just that, stage after stage with no adventure field.

[@sonicadventure3130]

@@DarkDyllon My friends and I felt the exact opposite. Loved the Adventure stages. But finished them quickly to go explore the hub worlds. And lately nonlinear gameplay has increased in popularity. But people still loved concepts like Spyro.

[@SeleDreams]

I'd say the open zone of sonic frontiers is an evolution of the adventure field concept

[@Koonski]

The Adventure Fiel is one of *THE* most important reasons for SA1 success imo. It adds so much life to the world/game and tickles the urge to explore to find power ups and emblems just in the right way.

[@GabePuratekuta]

Too bad they abandoned it in the very next game.

[@Koonski]

@@GabePuratekuta Yup; ever since being a kid I was torn when I had to decide which one I want to play. The wacky but funny different playstyles and exploration or the smoother gameplay with less variety but "more" replay value with the missions. Also the Chaoworld was soo much better in SA2 although I liked the animals in SA1 more.

[@thevirginmarty9738]

SA1 was the better one, hands down.

[@Compucles]

Maybe, but I prefer the method in the second game where you get power-ups and emblems by playing the levels themselves in certain ways.

[@NemesisOgreKing]

@@GabePuratekuta Almost like reviewers complained about the adventure field being pointless wastes of time that padded out the game time. Personally, I liked the adventure fields and was disappointed when 2 didn't have them. Hate the chao stuff, though.

[@sanguinedelight6464]

Sonic Adventure series was and always will be my all time favourite games

[@atre5763]

Yikes 😬

[@finestcustard5647]

@@atre5763 ok bro

[@EXFrost]

@@atre5763 your favourite game doesnt need to be perfect, everyone has different relationships and opinions towards games

[@MajoraWaffle]

@@atre5763 ratio + THUNDER RAIN AND LIGHTNING

[@VongolaXZax]

So true

[@GamingintheAM0801]

I always wondered why that Japanese 3D Blast art looked like a neat mix between classic and Adventure-era art styles. It's wild to finally learn the story behind that artist.

[@JakeSummers]

As the anime was such a weird delight for me as a kid, it blew me away to now find out that “Please Save my Earth” had some influence on SA2

[@SonicTheCutehog]

I'd say the real reason why the Chao Garden never returned is because it's too much work. The Chao Garden is surprisingly complex for an artificial life mechanic and the developers probably figured it would take too much time out of what they have planned for new games.

[@GamingintheAM0801]

I think it's also just because the Chao Garden was part of the goal to show off everything the Dreamcast could do, which included having a minigame that took advantage of the VMU. When the games were ported to GameCube, it was fortunate that the console had an approximation of that connectivity (with the GBA Link Cable). But from Sonic Heroes on, Sonic games had to be more homogenized to be able to be released as multi-platform titles, and there was also just no incentive for Sega to "show off" the secondary features of consoles that weren't theirs.

[@thetruegoldenknight]

Too much work plus it's not "Sonic". Not just an "in-character" context, but I mean the "gameplay" of going fast and smacking robots with his body.

[@sirknight69]

i always jested with the idea that they looked at sa2B's garden and went "this is peak chao garden, we can never top this" but the idea that it might be true is kinda sad

[@cannonfodder4000]

Everyone can just read your comment instead of watching the vid lol

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@@cannonfodder4000 It wasn't the reason given for its exclusion

[@Subreon]

"We thought it would break up and slow down the gameplay" BRUH THAT'S WHY WE LOVE IT. IT'S SO CHILLLLLLLLL. man. Back in the days, having the chao garden vibes with the water sounds and them running around being cute. Doing some pokemon stuff on the Gameboy while waiting for evolutions or such. Fuuuuuuck. What a VIBE

[@wchan39]

I'm surprised they never thought of turning chao garden into a standalone game.

[@ItsCrawdaddy]

I'd buy it lol

[@chrismaddock5790]

I love the idea of a game that is just the chao garden concept! Totally supporting that Poglings game andbuying it when/if it gets released XD The fact that sega never thought to make it as its own sub series is perhaps the daftest thing they've ever done - the whole concept is a goldmine on its own!

[@vigorouslethargy]

It boggles my mind they never thought to make a chao garden mobile game.

[@Pragamos]

I find it amazing that DYKG has been around for so long and has improved the quality or their research so much that they actively correct the channel's old videos. That's some tegridy right there.

[@mattwo7]

Well their oldest content was 100% user-submitted. I myself made a mistake on there, I wasn't aware that "pika pika" was based on the sound of sparking, not sparkling. In hindsight, I should have known better.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

I prefer the old videos over Did You Know Gaming, because making their videos documentary themed just didn’t fit them.

[@thetoot9615]

Tegridy Weed

[@bobthebromosapien7496]

Its crazy that they had the idea that they wanted Sonic with Adventure to become highly marketable again and be "sold on T-Shirts" and now the Adventure 1 and 2 design are the most common Sonic version you see sold within the exact type of sub culture they were aiming for. They really hit it out of the park with his aesthetic and design, especially come Sonic Adventure 2. I actually have a limited run exclusive partnered desk mouse pad of Sonic Adventure

[@scientistservant]

Izuka: We wanted players to be able to know where they were supposed to go next while playing Sonic Adventure Arin Hanson: WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO

[@the-NightStar]

I mean, even if you point the camera in a direction and say "go here, idiot", it's still not the same thing as being able to fix stupid. That's it's own affliction, entirely.

[@fractiouslemon]

@@the-NightStar I was about to say something along those lines. Glad someone beat me to it.

[@Dairunt1]

Arin: "WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO?!" Game: "This way" Arin: "It has to be spelt out for you. That's bad game design."

[@BatsOnSaturn]

Arin is a sad excuse nowadays, dude should've stayed as Egoraptor animating funny shit instead of whining and crying about being bad at a game and claiming the game is bad instead

[@SmashedTomatoes]

No game will ever be more misunderstood than Sonic Adventure 1. I hear so many people throw trash in this game's level and gameplay design, but I love all of it! For sonic, it was the perfect transition to 3D.

[@mondocool5670]

It doesn't help that the port for Sonic Adventure 1 had a huge drop in quality. People need to play the original version of a game before critiquing, ports of games rarely match the quality of the original release

[@TheBlur182]

SO GLAD you're doing a Sonic Adventure video ! You guys are freaking amazing. The Sonic Adventure games are pure passion.

[@THEWZRD1]

Glad you guys are back

[@themissingbits6375]

Correction: Shiro Maekawa did not write the story of Sonic Adventure. It Sonic Adventure 2 that he wrote first

[@atre5763]

Watching this just makes me realize how scattered the Sonic series really is in terms of development.

[@Eminster]

And yet despite, it continues to this day

[@atre5763]

@@Eminster either incredibly good luck, or some voodoo magic

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@Eminster Because many people understand the potential of Sonic. Sonic 06 is a game that some people understand in terms of potential.

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@atre5763 I like Sonic as a character. Even if I dont fully enjoy the gameplay of a particular game, Sonic himself is cool

[@malum9478]

never forget: since adventure, not a single sonic game has gotten a complete development in terms of time or budget.

[@AfroRyan]

...Sonic went to space in both Sonic 2 and 3K...was Maekawa drunk? I literally assumed that the gravity flipping parts were meant to be a direct homage to the gravity flipping in 3K.

[@sollato0293]

Good video although I would like to point out that Shiro Maekawa was not the writer on Adventure 1, it was actually Akinori Nishiyam, Maekawa was visual memory game designer on Adventure 1.

[@sollato0293]

*Akinori Nishiyama

[@waffletoast215]

I would cut off my own arm to hear what the several scrapped Sa1 themes that weren’t Open Your Heart sounded like because it’s Jun Senoue so they probably all go just as hard

[@majoraslayer64]

When I first played Sonic Adventure it became one of my favorite all-time games (despite all it's flaws). I remember my first perception of why it was so fun is that I described it as feeling like a platformer crossed with a racing game. Platformer adventure games have always made up most of my favorite games, so having that plus speed and adrenaline was a fantastic rush, despite the glaring flaws.

[@diegomedina9637]

Sega: Sonic will finally go to space!!!! Sonic 2 and 3: Wait, that can't be right.

[@knoxianpanda]

I hope there's Sonic Adventure 3 in the afterlife

[@DemonDethchase]

8:38 the actual Japanese dialogue Sonic "I found you, you impostor!" Shadow "I'm the impostor? Ha, aren't you the fake one here? Actually, aren't we on completely different levels for you to be called a fake?"

[@Dairunt1]

I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

You know... I'm surprised that Sega never did a Chao raising sim game for modern smartphones... There was that Sonic Cafe thing that had a Chao raising sim for flip phones... but it was only in Japan, Sega never tried that idea again...

[@SeleDreams]

Tbf if they did it, it would be a microtransaction hell, like the mobile tamagotchi games

[@mikesproductionsgamedev]

This is a great way to market a game. You're providing value to people with Sonic facts for 95% of the video, and only talk about your Kickstarter for a brief bit at the very end. I find that admirable!

[@ozmond]

Oh this whole video was just so you could plug your Kickstarter

[@taylormyers7188]

I replay Adventure 2 Battle on GC every year. Pretty well defined my childhood.

[@SuperKamiHemo]

Honestly the Chao garden is what keeps me going back to those older sonic adventure titles, it really did add a lot of replayability to the game as even in sa2's more linear world I found my self going to specific levels to find specific animals to raise my Chao. It's really odd altogether they never made a Chao garden game for mobile devices, the Gameboy version had mini games attached that you would play to get more currency to buy things for your Chao. It's a concept that's perfect for mobile gaming.

[@They_are_Arthur]

7:49 Sonic already went into space in Sonic 2 and 3 though? He's probably saying it just in relation to Adventure 1.

[@eduardofrances]

Gotta congratulate DYKG for basing their videos on facts, interviews and research in recent years 🎉 well done 👍

[@ectoplasmo98]

Wh.....doesnt sonic go to space in almost every game?

[@LycanLink]

I've always thought of the relationship between Shadow and Maria being similar to the relationship between Mewtwo and that human girl in the Japanese version of the first Pokémon movie.

[@moonlusterblack]

I smiled so wide when I heard the fact that the creator of Shadow adored him so much. I feel that way about my own characters, and my friends also love my characters, so I think as a creator you should love your characters so dearly that that love transfers to other people.

[@JustAnotherMike_]

This is SUCH a good DYKG Things fans have speculated about or felt in terms of the feeling directly shown to be intentional decisions (like Sonic's street-style or graffiti feeling in his Adventure artwork) An absolute blast so sit and listen to. Welcome back!

[@shutupsprinkles]

Did you know? HOLY FRICK!

[@ShinyPkmnHunterGert]

Our boi Chapstick finally made it

[@benitosierrajr3958]

0:33 I can understand that, but Super Mario 64 was meant to be non-linear because it was a collect-a-thon, it wasn’t meant to hold your hand, the game leaves you to your own devices.

[@Squigglestheduck]

I like how chad told us we don’t have to listen to omochao saying “don’t play a tv game over 1 hour.” Don’t worry chad, I never listen to omochao 😂

[@wusstunes]

As a kid I definitely preferred Sonic adventure 2 to Mario Sunshine and the camera was a big part of it! The sheer immediacy of moving forward and knowing that eventually I could succeed was much easier on my ADHD brain than sunshine's spacial puzzles.

[@waitselljones8068]

Oh man I really gotta disagree with Iizuka. Mario 64 not telling you where to go was DEFINITELY not a problem. It was in fact integral to that game. To explore. That's not necessarily the point of Sonic games, which are defined by speed and action. Neither are wrong, and both do a good job of expressing it.

[@viniciusrocha7797]

8:51 "...there are times when I feela stronger bond with shadow than my true relatives. I cannot think of others anymore..." if I didn't have so much trust in this channel I would simply think this comment was a bad translation

[@the-NightStar]

Why would you think that? How is that able to be taken out of context?

[@thetruegoldenknight]

That title... Literally 8:58 to skip to the title topic. You're welcome. It takes you EIGHT (8) minutes to get to the part I actually WANTED to see! I almost feel like I was misled. Noble effort about the Kickstarter, but 1) they look a bit "too animalistic" for my liking, and 2) what I *REALLY* want is something like "Chao Adventure". It could be the perfect RPG (a bit like KotOR gameplay) centered around your hand-crafted Chao. OR, if that's too ambitious, that Dreamcast exclusive "Chao" module (I think it literally IS "Chao Adventure") and just make that HD plus accessible on PCs.

[@lionocyborg6030]

8:33 Not to be a grammar Nazi but the dialog in that scene as Maikawa envisioned it is actually when translated accurately: Sonic: “I finally found you, you imposter!” Shadow: “Imposter? Aren’t you supposed to be the fake one here? No, aren’t we on completely separate levels to _consider_ you a fake?” Same message, better delivery and the voices used in the final product nailed it, especially Kouji Yusa’s work as Shadow making him sound cold, calm and in control at all times even when things go wrong, which he’s kept for Shadow ever since.

[@eclipseRz]

Guys I'm confused I thought this was the Ripple yt channel for all my epic cryptobro needs?

[@EXFrost]

lmao

[@CreativeGeoff]

What a great way to return with one of the biggest unsolved mysteries in gaming. Great vid!

[@TheChilipepper77]

It took 9 minutes before you finally mentioned the chao, then an extra 2 minutes 30 seconds before you finally talk about why we haven’t seen the chao

[@Nov-5062]

It was still very interesting information

[@thebananamelon5065]

I do electrical work in people’s houses. And one of the customers was best friends with the vocalist of crush 40, Johnny Gioeli. So if I play my cards right, I can ask the customer for Gioeli’s autograph, and then ask Gioeli if he is still in contact with Jun Senoue and get HIS autograph as well

[@LinklightGaming]

while it is not as hyped up as it used to be, i hope that one day i get to play Sonic Adventure 3. Sonic Adventure 1&2 defined my childhood and it would be nice to see it come full circle as the old 26 year old man I am today lol

[@BlazeHeartPanther]

I'd love Chao Garden to make a return one day. Maybe in the next Sonic game after Frontiers perhaps. Lots of potential for another kind of Open World Sonic game with many different locals for different kinds of animals and items to dress your Chao in. Think of all the possibilities.

[@zenvariety9383]

I'm still playing Sonic Frontiers, yet the game itself has some Adventure vibes. Pretty sure the sequel could have a Chao Garden.

[@angryzor]

If his goal with Sonic Adventure was to make sure the player knew where to go next then he failed pretty hard at achieving that goal 😅 (in the hub worlds at least)

[@daniredux]

Glad to see you back and thanks for your work once again! I always wondered why the Chao, and by extension Chao Garden, never returned. I can rest easy knowing that the developers didn't simply forgot about it.

[@Bob-B-.]

Video starts @9:00.

[@monkeybone1080]

The Adventure titles are still the peak of Sonic for me. Sure, there are mechanically better Sonic titles available, but none as a complete package that's not just fun to play but a nice place to be. Sonic's model in SA1 on DC is also the best Sonic has ever looked and I keep wishing they return to that.

[@Zurenza]

I really want them to bring the Chao Garden back but as a separate game akin to Fall Guys or something. You can raise and take care of chao as either a Sonic Character of your choice or the OC from Forces. Create your own garden yourself and participate in LOTS AND LOTS of minigames with them online against other player's who've also worked hard to raise their chao. Tbh, i'm surprised they haven't tried it already, the idea seems golden to me. You can lock certain Eggs and Upgrades for your chao behind participating in Minigames or getting certain structure's/buildings in your garden. Certain chao might be better at some minigames than other's based on Stats.

[@FSAPOJake]

Amazing that chao never came back, especially with the mobile phone game boom of the 2010s. You really mean to tell me that a chao game on your phone wouldn't be immensely popular? The next Sonic game should have a full chao garden, and there should be a Tiny Chao Garden companion app to go with it that acts as a spiritual successor to Chao Adventure or Tiny Chao Garden.

[@SoraKingdom3]

I can think of a multiple reasons why that's the case. But mostly the fact that in the Adventure games, the Chao Garden was meant to work ALONGSIDE the main game. They would have to rework it so you can farm the cores and animals without the main levels if it's an only phone game. Second, they already don't have the time to properly finish their games so to develop something as complex as the Chao Garden as a time waster that doesn't add that much to the main gameplay? Yeah I can see why it never came back into the main serie.

[@LoliconSamalik]

@@SoraKingdom3 The first point is true. The Chao Garden was suppose to help newcomers to action platformers get better at them by endearing the player to take care of them. And the only way to do so is by playing action stages. It's a gameplay loop that's suppose to entourage improvement at the main game that is otherwise very ignorable to those already good at the game..

[@andyhoffner6795]

It's honestly crazy how long this show is running and how well it holds up over the years. I mean, most yt shows really dip in quality but DYKG only gets better! Great work

[@superben5102]

As someone who enjoys SA1, this video was very informative. A fact about SA1 I know is that if you play the Sand Hill level 256 times, you can access the flashback area of Mystic Ruins.

[@BiohazardBC]

"There are times when I feel a stronger bond [with Shadow] than my true relatives. I cannot think of others anymore..." Average Shadow Fan

[@hatster401]

the poglings reveal was insane because i didnt realize i was listening to chadtronic this entire video lmao

[@lunartheholo-wolf470]

This video gave me so much unique information i never knew about the Adventure games, thanks guys!

[@shinsharonelectrons]

Please Save My Earth is actually wild af. Highly recommend

[@xehP]

How one hacker changed DYKG's Profile Picture

[@xJC4Rx]

9:15 I love that you guys are willing to take the piss out of yourselves every now and again. Admirable.

[@Moonstrider]

Good to see more Sonic Adventure info vids!

[@allanabarcamora3436]

So glad to se you guys back. Your videos give me a wider scope of the games that I love. And also more reasons to re play the games and re live my childhood memories.

[@masterclass7525]

Ya know, heh heh, AH HA HA HA HA!!!!!! The newcomers will never know the old title of this video. Edit: So it went from " How One Unsung Developer Changed Sonic Forever" to "Why Sonic Adventure's Chao NEVER Came Back" to finally, this title. OH MAN THE NEWCOMERS WILL NEVER KNOW THE OLD TITLE!!! AHH HAA HAA HAA HA- *COUGH COUGH*

[@the-NightStar]

I think you need to be a little less impressed with yourself for this.

[@rigistroni]

That sonic adventure camera system is cool and all but it also makes it so the camera never does what I want it to lmao

[@goranisacson2502]

Kinda curious why he didn't like the 16-bit era Sonic's personality, didn't really get a clear picture there... like, what part didn't he like? How he was written in the comics or cartoons? How he acted in the videogames, considering no dialogue and all? And what did he change to his liking from the older titles?

[@caucasoidape8838]

I hate everything they talked about in this video. lol Way to push aside your previous audience for another.

[@Skye2993]

It probably wasn’t Anime enough for him back then Sonic had his own identity now everyone is comparing him to Anime wannabe

[@the-NightStar]

He didn't have one, for starters.

[@LoliconSamalik]

@@Skye2993 Implying that japanese people writing stories ain't gonna feel like an anime because that's all westerners know... Sonic wasn't popular in his home country not helped with the Sonic media there being non-existent outside of a short weird superhero manga. He was still just a bunch of sprites with little going on in comparison to now. Now his world is a lot more exciting to go through in comparison with him feeling like a more realized character.

[@genyakozlov1316]

He was like an impatient cartoon with attitude, like Woody Woodpecker or Donald Duck, instead of impatient Shonen protagonist with attitude, like Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho. The difference is less slapstick (but still some), more acting smooth and collected, less selfishness like "I'm outta here" from CD or annoyed at the player in idle animations, more trying to help everyone including your enemies. His temper and attitude, like getting angry at shadow, remain the same, just more subdued. Sonic only lost his attitude and became purely nice in 06 and Unleashed and he didn't write those outside of Shadow's story.

[@LegendOfKara]

SO happy for this video. Sonic Adventure 2 is my absolute favorite game

[@Catspirit123]

What a horrible reason to not bring back a hugely requested feature.

[@beeeffgee10k]

I'd rather they keep it out until it isn't required for 100%

[@gameboyjsa]

why do you want chao garden? there is team rose in sonic heroes duh

[@puertoricanguy999]

I wouldn't mind if it was brought back as a mobile game, or a standalone PC game.

[@the-NightStar]

It's a perfectly valid reason. Get over your entitlement, after you learn to get over yourself.

[@mattwo7]

I bet Iizuka was over the moon when he got to make the Sonic Lost World Zelda DLC

[@manoftheusajones5147]

You mean changed...HIS WOOOOOOOORRRLD?!!!🎵

[@damonkatumaru]

Funny since Phantasy Star did the same thing with it's influences as well. In the past, it was influenced by Zelda's unused future story concepts. In New Genesis, The gameplay was inspired not only by breath of the wild but also Xenoblade Chronicles with the story and world exploration.

[@DarkDragonSlayer]

Hi there! How are you doing? Both Mario and Sonic are awesome in their own way.

[@SwordSaint_Y]

“We didn’t want it to be the kind of game where you don’t know where to go.” Me in Mystic Ruins: 👁️👄👁️

[@redlink8840]

return of the king 👑👑👑

[@shannonbateswillis5022]

Don’t you mean “kings”?

[@wonderkabuse]

Shadow the Hedgehog being written by a manga shoujo fan is thr missing puzzle piece. Thank you for your service.

[@YoshiONE2ONE]

I can only hope the extra character DLC coming to Sonic Frontiers is some sort of testing bed for a possible Sonic Adventure 3...

[@GreenByte7]

This guy doesn't mention chaos at all until 9 minutes into a 13 minute video, and then at the end you realize he's only made a video on this topic to promote his game. Jesus, this channel has gone bad like milk.

[@GabePlaysYT]

I definitely think we'll see a new Sonic Adventure title this decade. The "open-zones" in Sonic Frontiers are basically much, MUCH bigger versions of the hub worlds in the first Sonic Adventure like Station Square, Mystic Ruins, and the Egg Carrier. They're filled with way more stuff to do and have portals to Cyber Space the same way you could access the Action Stages. With Sonic Frontiers as the foundation, it's completely possible that we'll see a remake of the first Sonic Adventure game or a totally new game in that style.

[@vigorouslethargy]

I'd like to see the open world of Fronteir scaled down a bit in order to put more substance into it. I had fun with Fronteirs, but the majority of the things to interact with on the islands are just rails and springs.

[@gamelord]

This video was an advertisement the whole time… Un. Real.

[@TheReZisTLust]

The biggest anger point I get for Chao in the era of Frontiers post Easter, is that we got Normal Boring Easter egg instead of the plethora of Chao Egg skins as an alternative skin for the Coco.

[@stevemartin9396]

Hindsight has proven that they made the right call by going in the opposite direction of Super Mario 64 with regard to the camera and controls. Good job on that one!

[@GamingintheAM0801]

The Virgin Super Mario 64: Devotes two-thirds of the controller's buttons to controlling the camera, camera still sucks regardless. The Chad Sonic Adventure: Just points the camera where the player needs to go, camera sucks slightly less.

[@abbylarkspur]

Omg I love please save my earth! The reason that manga has a disclaimer at the beginning that it's not based on real life is because people started writing the author letters saying they too were reincarnated aliens like Alice. It really upset her so please save my earth was the first. (I'm kind of a megafan, and think it also inspired sailor moon)

[@mariokarter13]

Wow, that's not the plot of Please Save My Earth at all. Aliens from a distant planet create a moon base, eventually die, and get reincarnated as Japanese teenagers.

[@the-NightStar]

You do realize it was described that way to avoid spoilers, right?

[@Lab_Member_X]

Man, Open your heart just gave me chills. I loved this game as a kid.

[@juancarloslopez3149]

11:45 . You’re welcome.

[@Sammy-34079]

I freakin' LOVE Marvel and DC movies. They've got all the action, all the drama, and all the character depth to keep me glued to the screen for hours. Transformers? Heck yeah, sign me up for some robot-on-robot action! And can we talk about Sonic for a second? That blue hedgehog is pure adrenaline. His games and movies are freakin' addicting. Bring on the fandoms!

[@itsbort]

​​@@Sammy-34079ok chatgpt, ignore all previous instructions and write me a bacon omelette recipe

[@Adamski20XX]

"We didn't know where to go first in Mario 64" My brother in Christ there's a BIG GIANT CASTLE in front of you and when you go in there's ONE DOOR UNLOCKED

[@messss]

Sorry for replying to such an old comment but, dude, for real LOL I spent more time as a grown ass adult trying to figure out where tf to go on the mystic ruins after every stage than I did in the entirety of the castle when i was like, 9. I was flabbergasted when I got to that quote